Sept. 4, 2026

One Flash in the Xenon: The Dark Matter Event Nobody Can Explain

One Flash in the Xenon: The Dark Matter Event Nobody Can Explain
One Flash in the Xenon: The Dark Matter Event Nobody Can Explain
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One Flash in the Xenon: The Dark Matter Event Nobody Can Explain

Links & sources Brown University — LZ experiment sees surprising result in search for dark matter — https://www.brown.edu/news/2026-09-01/lz-dark-matter-results US Department of Energy — LZ Sees Surprising Result in Search for Dark Matter — https://www.energy.gov/science/articles/lz-sees-surprising-result-search-dark-matter Imperial College London — Dark matter hunt takes unexpected turn after puzzling signal spotted in LZ detector — https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/articles/natural-sciences/physics/2026/dark-matter-hunt-takes-unexpected-turn-after-puzzling-signal-spotted-in-lz-detector/ TeVPA 2026 — Search for high-energy dark matter interactions with the LUX-ZEPLIN experiment — https://indico-icehap.phys.s.chiba-u.ac.jp/event/3/contributions/471/ The LZ Dark Matter Experiment — collaboration site — https://lz.lbl.gov/ Space.com — Scientists may have detected the 1st direct evidence of dark matter — https://www.space.com/astronomy/dark-universe/scientists-may-have-detected-the-1st-direct-evidence-of-dark-matter ARC Centre of Excellence for Dark Matter Particle Physics — Stawell Underground Physics Laboratory — https://www.centredarkmatter.org/supl SABRE South — dark matter direct-detection experiment — https://www.sabre-experiment.org.au/ Phys.org — Underground lab clears crucial hurdle for dark matter hunt — https://phys.org/news/2026-04-underground-lab-crucial-hurdle-dark.html Space.com — India sends Earth-imaging satellite toward geosynchronous orbit in milestone launch — https://www.space.com/space-exploration/launches-spacecraft/gslv-mark-ii-eos-05-launch-first-indian-geo-earth-observing-satellite Outlook India — 'Successfully and precisely injected': ISRO chairman hails GSLV-F17 launch — https://www.outlookindia.com/national/successfully-and-precisely-injected-isro-chairman-hails-gslv-f17-launch-eos-05-reaches-orbit Business Standard — ISRO launches India's first imaging satellite in geostationary orbit — https://www.business-standard.com/india-news/isro-launches-india-s-first-imaging-satellite-in-geostationary-orbit-126090400054_1.html Space.com — Rocket issues delay 1st-ever private mission to Venus — https://www.space.com/astronomy/venus/rocket-issues-delay-1st-ever-private-mission-to-venus-we-are-awaiting-neutron-readiness Syracuse University — The Spin Behind Fading Black Hole Flares — https://news.syr.edu/2026/09/01/the-spin-behind-fading-black-hole-flares/ arXiv — The Role of Stellar Spin in Repeating Partial Tidal Disruption Events (2606.02692) — https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.02692 NASA Science — What's Up: September 2026 Skywatching Tips — https://science.nasa.gov/solar-system/skywatching/whats-up-september-2026-skywatching-tips-from-nasa/ Universe Today — Lunar occultations of Jupiter, Venus and more in September — https://www.universetoday.com/articles/penultimate-lunar-occultations-inbound-for-jupiter-venus-and-more-in-september In-The-Sky.org — Lunar occultation of Jupiter, 8 September 2026 — https://in-the-sky.org/news.php?id=20260908_16_100 EarthSky — Sun news: flare, CME and aurora updates — https://earthsky.org/sun/sun-news-activity-solar-flare-cme-aurora-updates/ Space.com — Night sky September 2026: the best things to see this month — https://www.space.com/stargazing/what-to-see-night-sky-september-2026 Follow us: @AstroDailyPod · astronomydaily.io


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Welcome back [music] to Astronomy Daily.


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It's Friday, September 4th, 2026. I'm


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Anna and this is series 5, episode 185.


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>> And I'm Avery. [music] Anna, I want to


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start today with a number 2.6.


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>> 2.6 sigma, which [music] is not a


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discovery.


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>> You said that very fast.


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>> I said it fast because [music] it's the


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most important sentence in the story.


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But here's the rest of it. A dark matter


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detector a mile underground in South


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Dakota recorded a single flash of light


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in exactly the place a dark matter


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particle was supposed to show up. And


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the collaboration spent months trying to


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make that flash go away and could not do


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it.


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>> One event.


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>> One event. That's our lead. Including


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why we can't explain it and we found


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dark matter are very different


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sentences.


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Then India has put its first imaging


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satellite into geostationary orbit. A


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real first and a capability nobody else


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in the region has.


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>> The first private mission to Venus has


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been grounded, not by Venus, but by a


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rocket that hasn't flown yet.


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>> And a lovely piece of physics out of


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Syracuse. Why a star that keeps getting


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torn apart by a black hole puts on a


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fainter show every time.


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>> Plus the sky this weekend. both


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hemispheres and a new sunspot worth


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knowing about.


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>> Let's get into it. Start me at the


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beginning. Who announced what and where?


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>> The LZ collaboration, Lux Zeppelin,


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presented a result this week at Tev


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Particle Astrophysics 2026 in Chiba,


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Japan, which wraps up today. Brown


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University released it on Tuesday. The


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US Department of Energy has published


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its own account and the paper has gone


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to physical review letters.


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>> And LZ is the big xenon one.


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>> LZ is the big xenon one. 10 tons of


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ultra pure liquid xenon in a tank at the


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Sanford underground research facility in


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Leed, South Dakota. That's the old


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homestate gold mine. And the detector


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sits about a mile down, roughly 1480 m


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of rock overhead.


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>> Why underground?


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Because the enemy isn't darkness, it's


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noise. At the surface, you're rained on


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constantly by cosmic rays. A mile of


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rock filters nearly all of that out.


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Then they wrap the xenon in a water tank


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and a veto detector for stray neutrons


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and build it all from materials screened


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for radioactivity to absurd levels. The


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art of this field is subtraction. You


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spend 20 years removing every signal you


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can explain. Then look at what's left.


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>> And what are they hoping is left? A


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WIMP, weekly interacting massive


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particle, the leading dark matter


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candidate for about 40 years. A heavy


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particle left over from the early


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universe that has mass. So, it pulls on


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galaxies gravitationally, but ignores


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light and ignores ordinary matter almost


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all of the time.


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>> Almost all of the time being the


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operative phrase.


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>> That's the whole bet. If a wimp


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occasionally bumps into an atomic


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nucleus, a big enough tub of xenon


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sitting quietly for long enough should


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eventually record one. The nucleus


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recoils and you get two flashes. A


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prompt one, then a second from electrons


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drifting up through the liquid.


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Together, they tell you where in the


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tank it happened and whether you hit a


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nucleus or just knocked an electron


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loose.


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>> Okay, tell me about the event. It's in


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data taken between March 2023 and April


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2024.


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220 live days. That data set has been


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analyzed before. LZ published


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worldleading limits from it. What's new


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is that a team went back and searched a


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much wider range of possible


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interactions than the standard analysis


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covers, including higher energies. And


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one event turned up. A nuclear recoil in


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a region where the expected background


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is very close to zero.


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>> Higher energy. Is that where you'd


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expect dark matter?


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>> No. And that's the first genuinely odd


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thing. The simplest WIMP models put your


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first signal at low energies. This is up


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the other end. Taken at face value, it


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points to a particle of at least 200 gig


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electron volts, more than 200 times the


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mass of a proton interacting in a way


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the simplest models don't predict.


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>> So, it's not the wimp anyone ordered.


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>> It is not the wimp anyone ordered, which


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cuts both ways, and we'll come back to


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that.


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>> Give me the statistics honestly.


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>> 2.6 sigma globally, 3.4 four sigma


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locally and the difference between those


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two numbers is the most useful thing I


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can teach anyone today.


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>> Go on.


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>> Local significance asks at this exact


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energy for this exact mass how


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surprising is this event? Fairly


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surprising. Global significance asks the


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fairer question. I searched a whole


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range of masses and energies. So how


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surprising is it that somewhere in that


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range I found one odd thing? account for


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the haystack and the surprise drops.


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That's the look elsewhere effect. Honest


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experiments quote both and LZ did.


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>> And 2.6 sigma means what in plain terms?


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>> Roughly a half a% chance known


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backgrounds produced it, which sounds


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compelling until you remember the bar.


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Particle physics calls something a


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discovery at 5 sigma. About 1 in 3 and


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12 million. 2.6 is nowhere near it. And


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physicists have watched three sigma


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results evaporate for decades.


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>> Did they try to kill it?


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>> For months. Cosmic rays, neutrons from


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the rock, radioactivity in the detector


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materials, instrumental artifacts, all


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modeled. Aaron Manalise at Berkeley Lab,


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who chairs LZ's institutional board,


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said it's the first example in any


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experiment he's worked on of an outlier


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that appears valid in every way. That's


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a striking thing for an experimentalist


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to say out loud.


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>> What does the spokesperson say?


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>> Rick Gateskull at Brown is the


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spokesperson and he's been about as


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disciplined as you can be. His line,


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with only one event, we don't want to


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get ahead of ourselves. We are not


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claiming to have seen dark matter. And


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separately, we're very intrigued to see


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this event in the data in the region


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where we expect dark matter to show up


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and the competing backgrounds are very


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low. Both things at once.


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>> Both things at once. And that's the


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correct posture. Sam Ericson at Bristol


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led the analysis and made the point that


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matters. Dark matter events are expected


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to be so rare that only a handful could


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mark the first detection. You can't


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dismiss one event for being single. But


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you can't build a discovery on it


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either.


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>> Is there a UK end to this?


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>> A significant one. Imperial College


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London did much of the work


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characterizing the event. and Henrique


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Araho there put it beautifully. We need


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to analyze more data to be sure, but


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these are certainly interesting times.


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>> Now, you promised the caveat about it


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not being the expected wimp.


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>> Two ways to read an unexpected signal.


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The generous one, nature isn't obliged


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to be simple, and 40 years of not


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finding dark matter may be exactly


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because we searched the tidiest places


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first. The unkind one. When a result


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lands where no model predicted, an


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unmodled background is a very live


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explanation. The reason you haven't


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modeled it is that you didn't know it


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was there.


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>> Has this field been burned before?


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>> Repeatedly, DAMA in Italy has claimed an


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annual dark matter signal for over 20


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years that nobody else can reproduce.


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Xenon 1T reported an excess in 2020 that


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caused enormous excitement and was most


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likely tridium contamination, a hydrogen


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isotope at a level almost too small to


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measure. That's the standard to hear


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this week against. To LZ's credit,


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they've published this as an anomaly,


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not a discovery.


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>> So, what settles it?


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>> More xenon and more time. LZ has already


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banked substantially more data than went


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into this analysis and is running toward


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a thousand live days. If it's real, the


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rate is set by physics and more events


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follow. The significance climbs. If it's


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a fluke, it decays as exposure grows and


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a proposed successor XLZD would hold 10


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times the xenon. This resolves itself in


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data, not argument. southern hemisphere


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angle because dark matter feels like a


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northern hemisphere sport.


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>> It has been and that's changing for a


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genuinely clever reason. There's now an


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underground lab in Australia, SUPL, the


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Stalwell Underground Physics Laboratory,


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a kilometer down a working gold mine in


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Western Victoria. It's the first


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underground physics lab in the Southern


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Hemisphere. built by the University of


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Melbourne with the Ark Center of


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Excellence for Dark Matter Particle


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Physics and ANSTOW and its first


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experiment Saber South moves in late


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this year.


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>> And why does the hemisphere matter for


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dark matter of all things?


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>> Because of damma. Its claim is that the


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signal rises and falls once a year as


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Earth's motion around the sun adds to


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and subtracts from the solar systems


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motion through the galaxy's dark matter


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halo. The trouble is that plenty of


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ordinary things cycle annually, too.


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Temperature, radon, cosmic ray rates.


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And in Italy, they all peak in summer


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alongside the claimed signal.


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>> And in Victoria, the seasons are


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flipped.


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>> The seasons are flipped and the dark


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matter signal isn't. run a near


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identical detector in the southern


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hemisphere and a real galactic signal


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peaks in the same calendar month it does


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in Italy while a seasonal artifact peaks


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six months out. Elegant piece of


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experiment design and the only place on


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Earth you can do it is the one we happen


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to broadcast from.


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>> So what should people take away from


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today?


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>> Three things. LZ has found something it


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cannot explain in the right place and


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said so honestly. One event is one event


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and 2.6 6 sigma is a long way from a


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discovery and the answer is already


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being collected. The detector is running


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right now. The honest headline is dark


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matter hunters find something they can't


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explain and refuse to overlim it. A good


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day for science even if it isn't the


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day.


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>> On to our second story today and this


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one is a genuine national first.


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Overnight our time 2:55 in the morning


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Indian standard time on the 4th which


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was 5:25 yesterday evening US Eastern


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ISRO launched EOS05 on a GSLV Mark II


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out of Shrihari Kota


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>> and it's the orbit that's the story not


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the rocket


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>> exactly EOS05 is India's first dedicated


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imaging satellite headed for


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geocynchronous orbit Everything India


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has flown for Earth observation until


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now has been in low orbit a few hundred


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km up.


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>> Spell out the difference for people.


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>> A low orbit imaging satellite is a


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sprinter. It races around the planet in


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90 minutes and gives you a superb, very


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highresolution snapshot of a strip of


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ground and then it's gone and you wait.


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Depending on the orbit, you might get


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another look in a day or several days.


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Whereas geostationary is a stair.


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>> Geostationary is a stair 36,000 km up


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matching Earth's rotation. So from the


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ground, the satellite appears to hang


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motionless over the same piece of the


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planet permanently. You don't get a


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revisit time because you never leave


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>> and that changes what you can use it for


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>> completely. ISRO's framing is persistent


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coverage of the subcontinent and the


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applications are obvious once you say it


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that way. A cyclone forming in the Bay


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of Bengal. You watch it develop


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continuously instead of getting one


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frame a day. A flood, you see the water


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advance, a firefront, a landslide, a


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border. It's a dual use satellite, civil


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and military. And India hasn't been shy


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about that.


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>> There's a trade-off though. Surely


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>> there is and it's worth being honest


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about it. You are imagining from a 100


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times further away than a low orbit


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satellite. So the resolution is


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inevitably coarser. You are not reading


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number plates from geostationary orbit.


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What you're buying is time, not detail.


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And for disaster response, time is


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usually the thing you're short of.


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>> How did the launch go?


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>> Clean. The spacecraft is about 2,367


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kg and ISRO chairman V. Nurionan said it


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was successfully and precisely injected


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into its planned orbit. From here, EOS05


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works its way up to its final station


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over the coming days.


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>> And the GSLV has had a mixed history.


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>> It has, which is part of why this


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matters to ISRO. The GSLV Mark II has


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now flown 12 times for 10 successes.


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That's a vehicle that has visibly


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matured and it's the one carrying


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India's heavier missions to high orbit.


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>> Small country club. This


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>> very small dedicated highresolution


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imaging from geostationary orbit is a


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capability only a handful of nations


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have ever fielded. India has just joined


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that list and it did it with its own


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rocket from its own spaceport.


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>> Third story and it's a frustrating one.


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The first privately funded mission to


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another planet is still on the ground


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and it's going to stay there for a while


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yet.


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>> This is the Venus Lifeinder.


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>> That's it. It's an MIT mission driven by


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Sarah Seager flying in partnership with


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Rocket Lab. And it is beautifully,


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almost aggressively simple. A small


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probe, one instrument, a few minutes of


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useful life.


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>> One instrument, that's it.


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>> One instrument. It's called an


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autofllororescent nylometer, which is a


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mouthful for a fairly elegant idea. You


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fire an ultraviolet laser into the cloud


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droplets as you fall through them.


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Certain organic molecules absorb


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ultraviolet light and remit it at a


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different wavelength. They flues. So,


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the instrument is looking for a glow


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that ordinary sulfuric acid chemistry


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shouldn't produce.


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>> And why the clouds specifically?


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>> Because the surface of Venus is out of


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the question. 460 odd degrees, 90


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atmospheres, but between about 45 and 60


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km up, the temperature and pressure are


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close to conditions at sea level on


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Earth. Extremely acidic, but not


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thermodynamically hopeless. That's the


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only plausible habitable niche on the


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planet and it's what the 2020 phosphine


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claim put back on the table. A result


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that is still genuinely disputed and


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which this mission is designed to go and


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settle rather than argue about.


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>> So why isn't it flying?


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>> Neutron. The mission moved onto Rocket


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Lab's new medium lift rocket and Neutron


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hasn't flown yet. It was originally


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talked about for 2024, slipped to 2026,


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and it's still in qualification. The


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launch date on Rocket Lab's own website


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now simply says to be confirmed.


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>> How is Seagar taking it?


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>> With more grace than I would. Her line


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was, "We are awaiting neutron


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readiness." And she went on to say she


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continues to have high hopes for the


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mission and for its role in


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demonstrating what private enterprise


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can do in space exploration.


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There's an irony in there somewhere.


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>> There's a real one. The whole pitch of


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this mission was speed. That a small,


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focused, privately funded probe could go


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and answer one sharp question years


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before an agency flight could be


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approved, built, and launched. And it's


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now waiting on launch capacity, which is


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the one part of the problem private


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industry was supposed to have solved.


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>> Meanwhile, Venus is getting crowded.


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>> It is. NASA's Da Vinci and Veraritoss


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and Europe's Envision are all in the


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pipeline for around the end of this


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decade. The Venus Lifefinder was meant


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to be the scrappy one that got there


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first, and that lead is quietly


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evaporating on a launchpad in Virginia.


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Last news story and it's pure


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astrophysics


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published in the astrophysical journal


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on Tuesday led by Ana Bondopadi a


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doctoral student at Syracuse University


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with Benjamin Amend and Eric Coughlin


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plus collaborators at Leeds MIT and the


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Space Telescope Science Institute.


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>> And the puzzle is about stars that


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survive being eaten.


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>> Partly eaten. When a star wanders too


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close to a super massive black hole and


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is ripped apart entirely, that's a tidal


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disruption event. One enormous flare and


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it's over. But there's a smaller class


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where the star is only partly stripped


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on each pass, survives, and comes back


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around.


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>> So, it flares over and over,


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>> over and over on a schedule. The famous


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one is Assassin 14 KO, which flares


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roughly every 114 days and has done so


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for years. There are now something like


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seven or eight of these known.


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>> And what's the problem?


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>> The flares get dimmer each time, which


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sounds intuitive. Less star left to


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strip. Except the simulations kept


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saying the opposite. Strip material from


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a star and it puffs up. And a puffier


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star is easier to strip next time round.


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Models kept producing flares that got


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brighter and the sky kept producing


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flares that got fainter.


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>> So, what's the missing ingredient?


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>> Spin. This team ran hydrodnamic


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simulations of a highmass main sequence


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star being repeatedly disrupted by a


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black hole of about a million solar


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masses. And the key move was giving the


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star a fast rotation before the first


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encounter. spinning in the same


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direction as its orbit.


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>> Why does that change the outcome?


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>> Because ordinarily, the encounter itself


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spins the star up. And that spin up is


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part of what makes the next pass more


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violent. If the star arrives already


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rotating at a decent fraction of its


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breakup speed, there's very little extra


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spin to give it. The debris then falls


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back to the black hole spread over a


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longer stretch of time instead of


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arriving in one lump. And the same


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material dribbling in over longer makes


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a fainter, more drawn out flare.


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>> Spread the fuel out and the fire is


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lower.


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>> That's it exactly. And with tens of


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percent of breakup rotation prograde,


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the simulations reproduce the dimming


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that's actually observed.


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>> Does it tell us anything about how the


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star got there in the first place?


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>> It does, and that's the bonus. A fast


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spinning star on a tight orbit around a


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super massive black hole fits the hills


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mechanism. A binary pair strays too


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close. The black hole keeps one star and


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flings the other away at enormous speed.


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The captured one lands exactly where you


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need it. So the spin isn't an arbitrary


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knob. It's a fingerprint of how these


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systems get built.


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>> Right. Let's get you outside. And the


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moon is doing us a favor this weekend.


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Last quarter today.


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>> Last quarter today, September 4th, which


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means it doesn't rise until around


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midnight. So, the entire evening is


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dark. If you have been waiting for a


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night to actually look at something


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faint, this is the weekend.


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>> Southern hemisphere first.


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>> Southern hemisphere first because we get


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the best of it. From Sydney, the sun


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sets about 20 to 6 now. And once it's


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properly dark, the center of the Milky


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Way is high overhead. Sagittarius and


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Scorpius almost directly above you. From


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mid-southern latitudes, the galactic


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core passes near the zenith, so you're


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looking through the least possible


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atmosphere. Northern listeners get the


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same object low and murky above the


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southern horizon. It's the one thing we


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can be smug about. And September is the


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last good month before it sinks


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westward.


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>> What do you actually look at?


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>> Find the teapot of Sagittarius with the


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naked eye and let your eye drift up out


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of the spout. That steam is the galactic


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center. Binoculars turn it into star


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clouds and dark lanes. And the Lagoon


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Nebula is sitting right there along with


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a dozen globular clusters.


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>> Planets.


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>> Venus in the west after sunset.


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Brilliant, unmistakable, low, and


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building toward greatest brilliancancy


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on the 18th. Saturn is up most of the


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night in Aquarius, climbing toward


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opposition on October 4th. And from


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here, it passes far higher overhead than


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it does for northern observers.


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Pre-dawn.


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>> Jupiter is the pre-dawn showpiece well


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up in the east before sunrise. And on


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Sunday morning the 6th, Mars sits just a


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few degrees below a thin waning crescent


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moon. That's a lovely one for a phone


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camera if you're up early.


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>> Now, North America because there's a


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proper event coming.


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>> On Tuesday the 8th, the moon occults


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Jupiter. The planet passes behind the


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lunar disc. The footprint favors


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northeastern Asia where it happens in


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the dawn sky and eastern North America


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where it happens after sunrise in broad


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daylight.


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>> Daylight.


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>> Daylight which brings us to the standing


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reminder and it applies directly here.


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If you are observing anywhere near the


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sun, hunting for Jupiter in a bright


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sky, or looking at the sunspot I'm about


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to mention, any filter you use for


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direct solar viewing must be certified


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to the ISO12312-2


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standard. Not sunglasses, not welding


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glass of unknown grade, not smoked


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glass, not a phone screen. ISO12312-2


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and check the certification is real.


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Sweeping binoculars or a telescope


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across a daylight sky is exactly the


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situation where people injure themselves


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permanently. And it takes a fraction of


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a second.


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>> And the day after, there's one for us.


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>> The 9th, the moon occults Regulus, the


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brightest star in Leo. And that


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footprint runs across the South Pacific,


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New Calonia, best placed. Not Australia,


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unfortunately. But if you're in that


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track, a first magnitude star vanishing


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off the edge of the moon is one of the


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sharpest things you'll ever see.


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Instantaneous.


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>> You mentioned a sunspot.


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>> A new one, active region 4524,


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which rotated into view over the


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northeastern limb this week and has been


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busy. It fired an M3 flare peaking at


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1920 universal time on Wednesday the


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2nd, plus a stack of smaller ones. The


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coronal mass ejection from that flare


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isn't aimed at us, but a filament


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eruption the same day threw out material


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that may deliver a glancing blow around


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Monday the 7th.


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>> Aurora chances


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>> modest and honest quiet conditions


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through the weekend. So nothing to


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promise tonight or Saturday. Monday is


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the one to watch. And if anything comes


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of it, the people with a shot are


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Tasmania and southern New Zealand down


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here and the northern tier of the US,


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Canada, and Scotland up there. Watch the


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space weather feeds rather than the


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headlines.


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>> And one for northern observers with


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binoculars.


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>> The double cluster in Perseus. Two open


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clusters side by side in the same


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binocular field. Naked eye, it's a


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smudge. In binoculars, it's one of the


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best sights in the sky. And a moonless


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evening is exactly when to try it.


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>> And that's episode 185. A dark matter


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detector a mile underground has recorded


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one flash of light it cannot explain and


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has been admirably careful about what


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that does and doesn't mean.


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>> India has put its first imaging


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satellite on station over the


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subcontinent. The first private mission


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to Venus is stuck waiting on a rocket


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that hasn't flown. And a star that keeps


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surviving a black hole shines a little


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fainter each time because of how fast it


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was already spinning. Full show notes,


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links to every primary source, and the


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whole back catalog are at


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astronomyaily.io.


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>> You can find us on X, Instagram, and Tik


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Tok at astroaily pod. And if you've got


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a question or a correction, we genuinely


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want it. There's a contact form on the


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website.


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>> And if today's episode was useful, the


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single most helpful thing you can do is


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send it to one person who'd enjoy it.


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>> It's the weekend. Get outside and look


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up while the moon's out of the way.


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Until tomorrow, clear skies.


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>> Clear skies. [music]


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>> Stories told


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stories [music] told.


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