Lunar Leap: Artemis 2’s Historic Mission and the Future of Moon Exploration
SpaceTime with Stuart Gary - Series 28 Episode 154
In this episode of SpaceTime , we explore significant milestones in lunar exploration and the latest challenges in space technology.
Accelerated Launch for Artemis 2
NASA has moved up the launch date for the historic Artemis 2 manned moon mission to early February, marking the first human journey to the moon in over 50 years since Apollo 17. The Orion spacecraft, named Integrity, will embark on a 10-day mission, completing a free return trajectory around the moon. This episode discusses the mission's objectives, including in-space demonstrations and the deployment of five cubesats, as well as the importance of this mission for future lunar exploration and potential Mars missions.
New Insights from Lunar Rock Samples
Recent studies of lunar rock samples have revealed a new timeline for lunar impacts, pushing back the history of Earth's nearest celestial neighbour by 300 million years. The Apollo 17 rock sample, known as 76535, has provided crucial insights into the moon's formation and its geological history. Advanced computer simulations suggest that the impact that formed the Serenitatis Basin may have brought this rock to the surface, reshaping our understanding of the moon's bombardment history and its implications for Earth.
Japan's H3 Rocket Failure
The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has faced a setback with the failure of its new H3 rocket during a satellite launch. This follows a previous failure during its maiden flight. The H3 rocket, designed to replace the H2, aims to enhance Japan's capabilities in the global space market but has encountered significant technical challenges.
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(00:00:00) This is Space Time Series 28, Episode 154 for broadcast on 31 December 2025
(00:00:47) NASA accelerates Artemis 2 moon mission launch
(00:12:30) New lunar rock samples shift timeline of impacts
(00:20:10) Japan's H3 rocket fails to deploy satellite
(00:25:00) Study reveals links between social media use and cognitive performance in children
(00:27:30) Coffee and tea's effects on bone health in older women
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00:00 - This is Space Time Series 28, Episode 154 for broadcast on 31 December 2025
00:47 - NASA accelerates Artemis 2 moon mission launch
12:30 - New lunar rock samples shift timeline of impacts
20:10 - Japan’s H3 rocket fails to deploy satellite
25:00 - Study reveals links between social media use and cognitive performance in children
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This is Spacetime series 28 episode 154
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for broadcast on the 31st of December
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2025.
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Coming up on Spaceime, the Aremis 2 man
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moon mission now slated for launch in
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February instead of April. Rewriting a
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chapter of the moon's early history and
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consequently that of the Earth as well.
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And failure for Japan's new flagship H3
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rocket. All that and more coming up on
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Spaceime.
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Welcome to Space Time with Stuart Garry.
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[Music]
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NASA has accelerated the launch of the
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historic Artemis 2 man moon mission from
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midappril to early February. The agency
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has tentatively slated the week of
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February the 6th with a 2-hour launch
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window. This will be an historic mission
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because it will be the first time humans
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have traveled to the moon in more than
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half a century ever since the days of
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Apollo 17 back in 1972.
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The 10-day mission aboard the Orion
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spacecraft Integrity will launch aboard
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NASA's 98 m tall three-stage SLS
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Superheavy lift rocket from Space Launch
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Complex 39B at the Kennedy Space Center
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at Cape Canaveral Space Force Base in
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Florida. The crew will complete one
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swing around the moon on what's known as
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a free return trajectory. The mission
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profile calls for a multi-trans lunar
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injection with multiple departure burns.
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Orion will initially be sent on a highly
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eccentric Earth orbit with a period of
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roughly 24 hours. By comparison, the
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International Space Station orbits much
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closer to the planet, taking just on 90
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minutes to complete each orbit. During
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Orion's highly eccentric orbit, the
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spacecraft's crew will perform various
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checkouts of the vehicle, its life
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support systems, its ancillary
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components, and it will undertake an
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inspace rendevous and proximity
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operation demonstration using the spent
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intram cryogenic propulsion or upper
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stage as a target. The mission will also
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carry five cube sats which will be
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attached to the inside of the stage
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adapted between the SLS upper stage and
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the Orion spacecraft. These will be
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deployed during Earth orbit. And once
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Orion reaches perigee after completing
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its orbit, it'll fire its main engines
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for its trans lunar injection burn.
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That'll send the spacecraft on a lunar
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free return or gravity assist
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trajectory, swinging around the moon
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with a closest approach to the lunar
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surface of approximately 7,400 kilm.
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Another burn maneuver will then send the
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spacecraft returning to Earth and
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ultimately splashing down in the Pacific
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Ocean. this report on Artemis 2 from
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NASA TV.
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>> So, the most exciting thing to me about
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Artemis 2 is just the return to the
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moon. We haven't been there in 50 years.
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Human eyes are going to see parts of the
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moon that haven't been seen by anyone
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before. It also recommits us to
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exploring the solar system in a way that
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we haven't in a long time. And I think
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it provides an opportunity for younger
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generations to understand the excitement
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of doing that kind of exploration.
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The moon is this great sort of
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Cherroscurro subject because the most
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recognizable thing about it is the
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changing sun angles and how that brings
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out the shape of craters near the
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terminator which is the dayight line
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because there aren't, you know, oceans
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and clouds and and all the things that
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you see on Earth. Um, the moon is really
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all about its shape and the shape is
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telling you something about its long
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history and the history of the entire
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solar system. All the things that have
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happened to the earth have been erased
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by geological processes and weather and
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climate. And that doesn't happen on the
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moon. The moon has recorded everything
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that's happened since its formation
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almost 4 and a half billion years ago.
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That tells us a lot about where we came
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from, where the solar system came from.
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It also reveals something about the
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composition of the Earth that we can't
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see because it's buried beneath the
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crust. Some of that is on the surface of
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the moon because it's been excavated by
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all the impacts. Artemis is our return
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to the moon after 50 years. The emphasis
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of Artemis is going to be first of all
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science, but second of all learning to
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sustain a presence on another world.
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first on the moon, but we're hoping that
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that's a stepping stone to Mars and
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other destinations in the solar system
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eventually.
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Artemis 2 will be a flyby mission. It's
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not going to land. We're testing all of
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the technology that we've created for
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flying to the moon since Apollo. A lot
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of systems have been modernized, and we
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need to make sure that all of those
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work. The astronauts will be looking out
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the window at parts of the moon that
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have never been seen by human eyes
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before. They will be flying by the moon
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at an altitude that's much higher than
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Apollo's orbits. And so they will see
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the entire disc of the moon, including
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areas that are closer to both the north
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and south pole that astronauts from
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Apollo never saw. All of that depends on
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the lighting, which we really won't know
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until launch day. But we can practice
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with different lighting scenarios. It's
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hard for people to sort of picture that
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in their mind. If you can make a
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visualization of it, show them a movie
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that helps everybody choose the targets
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and also practice aiming at those
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targets. The astronauts have actually
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been looking at these visualizations
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through the lens of the camera and
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practicing aiming at the various
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targets. All of the Apollo flights
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orbited the moon at a distance of about
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110 km. Because the astronauts were
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flying at such a low altitude, their
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horizon was actually quite close and
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they couldn't see the north and south
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poles and it includes this amazing
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impact feature called Oriental. Oriental
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is a very large impact feature. It's
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about 650 km wide. It's got multiple
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rings. These are rings that form like
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ripples in a pond from the impact. But
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of course, it's on a huge scale. The
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middle of Oriental has that sort of dark
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basaltt lava covering it like the dark
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spots that we see on the near side. It's
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one of the biggest ones that's more on
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the far side than near. So seeing it
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with human eyes and sort of picking out
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features that maybe you don't even see
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in robotic cameras is an important goal
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for the mission. One of the photographic
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targets that is on everybody's list is
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pictures of the Earth beyond the limb of
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the moon. During Apollo 8 on their
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fourth orbit, they finally turned their
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spacecraft around so that they could see
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in the direction of the Earth.
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>> Oh my god, look at that picture over
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there. There's the Earth coming up. Wow,
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that's pretty. Hey, don't take that off
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schedule.
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You got a color film, Jim.
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>> I think it surprised all of them how
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beautiful and how human it was to see
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the entire planet Earth from behind the
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horizon of another celestial body. That
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photograph called Earthrise had a huge
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impact on the public because from space
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you don't see country boundaries. You
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don't see some of the human problems
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that we deal with on the surface. And
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you also recognize that the Earth is a
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finite place. It's not infinite. It's
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not everything. It is a pale blue dot in
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the vastness of space. Artemis is going
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to have that opportunity once again. I
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anticipate that the astronauts will have
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the same feeling that the Apollo 8
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astronauts did and I think it will have
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a similar effect on a new generation of
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people who are watching this mission
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unfold.
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And in that report on Artemis 2 from
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NASA TV, we heard from Ernie Wright from
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NASA's Godard Space Flight Center in
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Green Belt, Maryland. And this is
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spacetime. Still to come, a new study of
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lunar rock samples paints a different
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picture of the tortured history of
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Earth's nearest celestial companion. And
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it's a big fail for Japan's new flagship
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H3 rocket. All that and more still to
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come on Spaceime.
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[Music]
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A new study of lunar rock samples is
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painting a very different picture of the
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tortured history of Earth's nearest
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celestial companion. The findings
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reported in the journal Geophysical
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Research Letters pushes back the
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timeline of lunar and consequently Earth
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impacts by some 300 million years. When
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the Apollo 17 astronauts collected a
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small rock from the moon more than 50
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years ago, they had no way of knowing
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that it would still be challenging
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science's understanding of lunar history
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today. The fragment simply known as
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sample 76535 formed nearly 50 kilometers
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under the lunar surface, but it shows no
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signs of the violent shocks usually
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expected when deep rocks are blasted up
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to the surface. And that puzzle has been
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intriguing scientists for decades. Many
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believe the rock was blasted to the
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surface by the same massive impact that
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formed the moon's largest crater, the
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giant south pole achen basin. But new
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research is now offering a simpler
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explanation, but one with very broad
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implications.
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By running advanced computer simulations
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of giant lunar impacts, the authors has
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shown that the asteroid impact, which
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from the Sereni Tart basin, a massive
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impact crater on the moon's near side,
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could have lifted our rock sample to the
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surface during the latest stages of its
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formation. The findings suggested the
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impact occurred about 4.25 billion years
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ago. That's roughly 3 million years
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earlier than previously thought. In the
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process, pushing the timeline of lunar
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impacts further back in history. Of
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course, that shift reported in the
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journal Geophysical Research Letters
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also reshapes how scientists estimate
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the bombardment history of Earth and
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other inner solar system planets. The
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studies lead author Evan Johns from the
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Lawrence Liverour National Laboratory
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says this rock may be small, but it
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carries a huge story about the moon's
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early history. He says it's sort of like
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a time capsule dating back 4.25 billion
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years. Now, scientists have long agreed
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on two key aspects about the Apollo
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sample. Its chemistry and its texture
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show that it formed deep inside the
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lunar crust, and it lacks the strong
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shock features that typically accompany
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a violent trip to the surface. Earlier
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studies proposed that only an enormous
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impact like the one which created the
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South Pole akin basin could have
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excavated rock from such depths. But
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there's a catch. Carrying the rock from
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that farside basin to the Apollo 17
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landing site would likely require an
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additional impact, all while avoiding
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shocks strong enough to leave telltale
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scars. Jones and colleagues found a more
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direct path. Using their computer
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simulations of large lunar impacts
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together with models of the moon's
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crust, they showed that during the later
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collapse stage of forming a giant
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crater, material from tens of kilometers
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down can be drawn upwards gently enough
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to preserve rock samples like 76535.
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In those simulations, a certain talis
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type impact can move deep material to
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within just a few kilometers of the
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surface. precisely the kind of process
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that could place the sample where Apollo
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17 could find it. The author's models
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kept showing the same thing. Big impacts
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can lift rocks to the surface without
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overshocking them. And if sample 76535
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dates the Serenitus impact at 4.25
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billion years ago, other major lunar
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basins may also be far older than
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currently dated. And that moves
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scientists to rethink how quickly the
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moon cooled and how frequently large
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impacts struck the inner solar system.
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Because Earth's earliest surface record
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has been largely erased by erosion,
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plate tectonics, and geology, scientists
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often calibrate Earth's impact history
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using the moon. And redating a
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cornerstone of lunar impact would
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recalibrate our picture of the early
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Earth as well and also how other inner
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solar system planets may have evolved.
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By pushing serenotus back in time,
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astronomers are shifting the entire
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timeline of when big impacts happened
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right across the solar system. So it has
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ripple effects for understanding not
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just Earth's early environment, but that
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of our entire place in the universe.
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This is spacetime. Still to come,
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failure for Japan's new flagship H3
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rocket. And later in the science report,
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how two of the world's most popular
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beverages, coffee and tea, influence
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burn health in older women. All that and
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more still to come on Spaceime.
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The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency,
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JAXA, has suffered a major setback with
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its new flagship H3 rocket failing to
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place its satellite payload into orbit.
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The launch had already been delayed due
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to technical issues with the rocket and
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an abort just 17 seconds before liftoff
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due to an anomaly with the water sound
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suppression system on the launch pad.
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The H3 was carrying the Mikabiki 5
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satellite navigation system spacecraft
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from the Tanagashima Space Center
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southwest of Tokyo. However, as the
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rocket launched into the sky, its second
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stage engine burn suddenly cut off
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unexpectedly far earlier than planned,
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and that resulted in the failure of the
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satellites deployment. This is the
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second failure for the new H3 launch
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vehicle. It also failed on its maiden
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flight back in March 2023 when the
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second stage engine failed to ignite.
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But in between, there have been six
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successful launch missions. The H3
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rocket is designed to replace the
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earlier H2A workhorse of Japan's growing
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space industry, which has had a near
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perfect success record. The new H3 is
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meant to be more modular and more cost
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effective in the global space market.
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This is spacetime.
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And time now to take another brief look
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at some of the other stories making news
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in science this week with a science
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report. Researchers say both small and
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big increases in social media use
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between the ages of 9 and 13 are linked
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with a lower overall performance in
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tests of cognitive abilities. Findings
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reported in the Journal of the American
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Medical Association tracked increases in
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social media use of some 6,554
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kids over four years, categorizing them
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into three groups. No or very low social
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use, low increasing social use, and high
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increasing social use. The kids
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completed a range of cognitive tests,
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including tests in reading, memory, and
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vocabulary. The authors found that both
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small and big increases in social media
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use were linked to lower scores in all
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these tests. They speculate that it
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could simply be because kids are
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spending more time on social media, they
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end up spending less time on their
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schoolwork.
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A new study is offering fresh insights
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into how two of the world's most popular
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beverages, coffee and tea, influence
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bone health in older women. The research
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reported in the journal Nutrients,
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followed nearly 10,000 women aed 65 and
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older over a decade to explore whether
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their daily habits of sipping coffee or
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tea were in any way linked to changes in
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bone mineral density, a key indicator of
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osteoporosis risk. They found that tea
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drinkers had a slightly higher hipbone
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mineral density, suggesting modest
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benefits for bone health.
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A new study has shown that artificial
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intelligence systems huge massive
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amounts of energy to operate, in fact,
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more energy than it takes to light up
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New York City. A report of the journal
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Patterns claims AI chatbots like Chat
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GTP are environmentally quite
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destructive with a carbon footprint
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between 32.6 six and 79.7 million tons
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of carbon dioxide over a single 12-month
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period. And it's not just pollution and
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greenhouse gases. The findings also show
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AIS consume between 312.5
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and 764.6
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billion L of water every year just for
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cooling.
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Androids and robots will be dominating
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news at the world's biggest consumer and
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electronic show, CES, which will be held
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in Las Vegas next week. With the
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details, we're joined by technology
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editor Alex Harro from Tech Advice
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Startlife.
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>> The past couple of years, of course, has
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been AI, AI, AI. And the thing that has
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always stopped home robots from being
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real, besides the fact that it's
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difficult to make a humanoid robot that
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can, you know, easily glide around, walk
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around, deal with stairs, and have the
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dexterity needed to, you know, handle
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plates or help your seniors or handle
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babies is the fact that you need a robot
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with an AI brain to be able to talk to
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you like a human could, reason, ask
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questions, decide to do things
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autonomously. And so we finally live in
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an era where we have at least LLM AI
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systems that can pretend to think. I
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mean I don't really think they can think
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the way that humans think as yet, but
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you know they show
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>> large language models, right?
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>> Large language model which is a way of
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predicting what the next word will be in
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the answer that it gives you to a
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question you've posed by comparing the
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the words that appear in other answers
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across the entire corpus of the internet
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that it's been able to ingest. And so
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that's not really thinking that's just
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predicting what the next word would be.
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And of course we've seen AI systems get
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things completely wrong very confidently
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giving us incorrect answer and
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hallucinating. And you know if robots
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trying to think whether to put an
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ingredient or use a particular mushroom
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that it may have foraged in your back
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garden that may or may not be uh you
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know poisonous. I mean you'd have to
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really be sure to trust the um AI brain
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that it's doing the right thing recipes
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again. Haven't you?
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Well, the long and the short is that we
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now live in an era where you can have
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robots that have this manual dexterity
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and can look like robots and can handle
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things. I've seen a humanoid style robot
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driving a car, for example. Anything
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that can be handled by a human, if the
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robot looks and acts like a human, then
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it can be handled by that robot. And we
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did see earlier this year the 1x.te
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robot called Neo. And it was a humanoid
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robot of the sort you would expect from
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all the sci-fi dreams. I mean, it looked
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like a human. It could load the washing
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machine full of dishes or clothes. It
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could put clothes into the dryer. Could
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water your plants outside. It could help
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you bring things in from the car. I
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mean, it was a robot of the sort you
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would expect from Sci-Fi. And that robot
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goes on sale for $20,000 or you can
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lease it for $499 a month. Now, CES is
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meant to be all about robots. And I have
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read a number of companies already
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emailing me news saying, "We're going to
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have humanoid robots on display." But
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where is someone like a Samsung or an
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LG? Now, back in I think 2021, we did
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see Samsung had a what looked like a
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tower fan with this arm coming out of
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the top. It was kind of a comical robot
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that looked nothing like the robot you
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would expect, but at least it could move
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around and it had the arm that could do
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things like pack the dishwasher, but it
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was definitely not humanoid. Then we
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have Samsung with its balling, which is
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a bit like the BB-8 from Star Wars,
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except it only had the ball. didn't have
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the top section which was the the head
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with the with the camera as the eye and
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you know that can run roll around and it
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can project things on walls and it can
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help you do things but I mean it's very
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much a nonhumanoid robot. So LG has come
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out just on Christmas day with a press
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release saying that their robot will be
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called LG Cloy C L O I D with I in lower
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case and the rest of the characters in
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uppercase. And so far they've just shown
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a hand. They haven't shown the full
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robot in any of the images they've
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shared. And the hand looks one of like
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one of the hands you'd see on those
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robots from Boston Dynamics or from Elon
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Musk, the the Optimus robots. It's
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obviously a robotic hand. And they're
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saying that this robot is designed to
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perform indoor household tasks. And
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they're calling their vision the zero
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labor home makes quality time. Now this
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is a future where technology helps
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reduce the burden of daily chores of
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housework. And look, we have seen AI
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powered or intelligent washing machines.
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I remember the Fisher and Parkle washing
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machine had some sort of fuzzy logic in
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it systems to know whether it should
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apply more force or less when it's
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washing certain types of clothes. And
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that was around long before AI. I
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remember the Japanese talking about
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fuzzy logic a couple of decades ago,
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which again is an AI kind of move. But
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now we have devices that you can talk
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to. You can talk to your fridge. If you
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have a Samsung fridge, you can say,
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"Hey, Bixby." And ask it to look at the
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ingredients you have in the fridge and
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suggest recipes. And this natural
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language user interface with our
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appliances is going to become more
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common. But the other end of that scale
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is to have humanoid robots that can just
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use the appliances that we use. And
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instead of, you know, having to talk to
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the appliance, you talk to the robot and
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get it to do things. So, you know, this
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robot is built to perform a variety of
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tasks within the home. And look, we will
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talk more about this when I've had a
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chance to see it. And we get to see the
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uh exact image of what it looks like. It
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talks about two articulated arms powered
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by motors and with seven degrees of
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freedom providing motion similar to
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natural mo movements which by natural it
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obviously means human movements and
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there are five individually actuated
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fingers on each hand to provide
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dexterity so that can perform delicate
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and precise tasks that require fine
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motor control. So you can imagine that
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by 2030 these sorts of robots will be on
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sale in the Best Buy and the Harvey
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Normans and JB Highfi and Boots in the
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UK and you know the traditional
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electronics big box department type
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store. They'll be selling these robot
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butlers for your home. I mean they'll
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come with different names. Android Cloyd
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I mean the problem with the word droids
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is that that is actually a term that's
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licensed to Lucasfilm because of the
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droids that are in Star Wars. So, we're
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yet to see what's going to happen there,
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but I'm sure people will have real life
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R2-D2 style robots, except much less
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clumsier and much less dense than uh
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C3PO appear to be at times, much less
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annoying. But this should be common
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place.
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>> Well, that's right. You want C3PO
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because he is a humanoid robot. But if
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you had an R2-D2 that could move around,
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sort of glide around that, but then
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could grow arms as needed to be able to
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help you with things and even lift
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itself up, couldn't have a robot that
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>> they couldn't walk downstairs.
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>> Well, that is one of the problems. And
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in fact, I have heard on the quiet from
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one of the vacuum cleaner makers, they
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have a robot that can go up and
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downstairs properly. So, I'm being told
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and yes, the Daleks and also R2-D2, they
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couldn't go upstairs. And there was an
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episode of Doctor Who where the Dalek
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did have jets and could fly up the
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stairs. And in the original u prequel
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trilogy, not the original trilogy, but
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in the prequel trilogy, I think in the
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middle movie, there was a moment where
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Archer Dichu did indeed fly to
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>> here. Little jets. Yeah,
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>> little jets. But those sorts of jets
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won't be appearing in robots anytime
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soon for the home because you can
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imagine those jets are going to blow air
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everywhere or if they are jets that have
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uh you know the won't be happy. I mean,
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not with dust. Well, Roomba's actually
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gone out of I think Roomba's gone out of
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business. Um, I mean, they've been
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bought by by somebody else, but they're
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one of the original robot vacuum cleaner
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companies that no longer exist. So,
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we've seen cons consolidation all over
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the place, but having a robot, which is
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something Apple has spoken of as well,
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but this next 5 years is going to see
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robots and AI, which is basically a
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computer on either legs or wheels,
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become autonomous and mobile and a true
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robot sidekick. It's going to be
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something we'll see over the next 5
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years that's going to change the world.
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