May 28, 2025

Jupiter’s Gigantic Past

Jupiter’s Gigantic Past
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Jupiter’s Gigantic Past

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In this episode of SpaceTime, we uncover remarkable revelations about Jupiter, lightning-induced gamma rays, and groundbreaking achievements in spaceflight.

Jupiter's Magnificent Past

A new study reveals that Jupiter, the solar system's largest planet, was once twice its current size and possessed a magnetic field 50 times stronger than today. Researchers, led by Konstantin Batygin, used the orbits of Jupiter's small moons, Amalthea and Thebe, to deduce these findings, providing critical insights into the early stages of planetary formation. The implications of this research could reshape our understanding of gas giants and their formation processes across the universe.

Gamma Rays and Lightning

In a groundbreaking discovery, scientists have detected intense flashes of gamma rays produced by lightning strikes. This phenomenon, known as terrestrial gamma ray flashes, occurs when lightning accelerates electrons to near light speeds, resulting in bursts of radiation. The study, published in Science Advances, sheds light on the high-energy processes occurring in Earth's atmosphere, enhancing our understanding of lightning's power and its effects on our planet.

Precision Formation Flying in Space

History has been made in Earth orbit as two spacecraft from the European Space Agency's Proba 3 mission successfully flew in millimeter-perfect formation for the first time. This precision alignment is crucial for studying the Sun's corona, allowing the two satellites to simulate a single large spacecraft. We discuss the technology behind this mission and its potential to revolutionize solar observations.

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✍️ Episode References

Nature Astronomy

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Science Advances

https://www.science.org/journal/sciadv ( https://www.science.org/journal/sciadv)

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00:00 This is Space Time Series 28, Episode 64 for broadcast on 28 May 2025

01:00 Jupiter's original size and magnetic field

12:15 Gamma ray flashes unleashed by lightning

22:30 Precision formation flying in space

30:00 Science report: New contact lens technology for night vision

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00:00 - This is Space Time Series 28, Episode 64 for broadcast on 28 May 2025

01:00 - Jupiter’s original size and magnetic field

12:15 - Gamma ray flashes unleashed by lightning

22:30 - Precision formation flying in space

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This is Spaceime Series 28, episode 64


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for broadcast on the 28th of May,


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2025. Coming up on Spaceime, a new study


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shows that Jupiter was once twice as big


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as it is now. How gammaray flashes are


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unleashed by lightning and spaceflight


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history made as two spacecraft orbiting


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the Earth fly in millimeter perfect


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formation. All that and more coming up


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on Spaceime.


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Welcome to Space Time with Stuart


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[Music]




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Garry. A new study has found that the


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solar system's largest planet, Jupiter,


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was once twice as big as it is now and


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had a far stronger magnetic field.


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Jupiter is the fifth planet from the sun


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and the gas giant has more than 2 and a


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half times the combined mass of all the


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other bodies in the solar system


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excluding the sun. Its diameter of


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140,000 kilm is some 11 times larger


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than that of Earth and it's a full


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onetenth the size of the sun's diameter.


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Jupiter is huge. That's why it's often


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referred to as the king of planets. It


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circles the sun at an average distance


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some 5.2 two times further out than the


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Earth, taking 11.86 Earth years to


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complete each orbit. The new findings


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reported in the journal Nature Astronomy


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suggest that around 3.8 million years


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after the solar systems formation 4.6


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billion years ago, at a time when the


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first solids condensed out of the sun's


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protolanetary disc, Jupiter was


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significantly larger and had an even


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more powerful magnetic field. One of the


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studies authors, Constantine Badagen,


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says the ultimate goal of the research


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has been to pin down the early phase of


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planetary formation. Badajun and


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colleagues reached their findings by


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studying Jupiter's tiny moons, Amla and


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Thebee. They orbit even closer to


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Jupiter than Io, the smallest and


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nearest of the planet's four large


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Galilean moons. Now, because Amla and


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Thebee have slightly tilted orbits, the


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authors were able to analyze these small


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orbital discrepancies in order to


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calculate Jupiter's original size.


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finding it to be about twice that of its


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current radius with a predicted volume


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that was equivalent to over 2,000 times


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that of Earth. They also calculated that


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the planet's magnetic field was some 50


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times stronger than what it is today.


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This new analysis is establishing a


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clear snapshot of Jupiter at the moment


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its surrounding solar nebula evaporated.


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And that's a pivotal transition point


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where the building materials of planet


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formation disappear and the primordial


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architecture of our solar system was


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finally locked in. The results add


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crucial details to existing planet


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formation theories, suggesting that


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Jupiter, as well as other gas giants


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around other stars, were all formed


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through a process of core accretion, in


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which rocky and icy cores are first


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established and then rapidly gather


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surrounding gas. This spaceime still to


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come, a new study describes how gammaray


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flashes in Earth's atmosphere are


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unleashed by lightning. And spaceflight


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history's been made in Earth orbit with


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two spacecraft successfully flying in


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millimeter perfect formation for several


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hours for the first time. All that and


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more still to come on Spaceime.


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[Music]


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Scientists have detected intense flashes


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of high energy gamma rays associated


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with the collision of two bolts of


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lightning. Lightning is a phenomenon


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that's fascinated humanity since time


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immemorial, providing a stark example of


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the power and unpredictability of the


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natural world. Although the study of


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lightning can be challenging, scientists


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have in recent years made great strides


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in developing their understanding of


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this extreme spectacle. Now, a report in


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the journal Science Advances has


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described for the first time


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observations of an intense burst of


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radiation known as terrestrial gammaray


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flash synchronized with a lightning


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discharge. The study's lead author Yuki


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Wada from the University of Asaka says


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the ability to study extreme processes


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such as terrestrial gammaray flashes


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originating from lightning allows


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scientists better understand the high


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energy processes occurring in Earth's


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atmosphere. It's been hypothesized that


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terrestrial gammaray flashes arise from


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lightning discharges as a result of the


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acceleration of electrons to very high


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speeds. However, the transient nature of


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this phenomenon which only lasts for


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micros secondsonds has always made it


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difficult to study the hypothesis. So


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wider and colleagues developed a


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multi-ensor setup designed specifically


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to detect optical radio frequency and


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high energy radiation events. They were


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able to observe two discharge paths of


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lightning. one descending from the


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thundercloud to the groundbased


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transmission tower and one ascending up


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in the opposite direction. Wider and


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colleagues found that terrestrial


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gammaray flashes occurred just before


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the two discharge paths met creating a


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highly concentrated electric field that


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accelerated electrons in the air to near


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the speed of light. The first


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terrestrial gammaray flash photon was


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observed 31 micros secondsonds before


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the collision of the discharge paths and


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the full burst lasted for 20 micros


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secondsonds after they emit to form the


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lightning strike. The study contributes


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crucial data to the long-standing


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mystery of how lightning generates


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enough energy to produce gamma rays


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phenomenon normally associated with


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outer space events like supernova or


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black holes. The study also supports


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emerging theories about lightning leader


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dynamics and the potential role of


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thermal runaway or relativistic feedback


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in these extreme bursts. This spaceime


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still to come, spaceflight history made


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in Earth orbit with two spacecraft


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successfully flying in millimeter


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perfect formation for several hours for


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the first time. And later in the science


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report, researchers develop a new type


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of contact lens, one that will help you


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see in the dark. All that and more still


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to come on


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Spaceflight history's been made in Earth


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orbit with two spacecraft successfully


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flying in millimeter perfect formation


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for several hours for the first time and


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without any control from the ground. The


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European Space Ay's Prober 3 mission


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achieved the precision alignment which


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is needed in order to carry out its


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mission to study the sun's outer


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atmosphere, the corona. You see, the two


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Prober 3 spacecraft, which include a


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chronograph orbiter and an occultter


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orbiter, need to fly exactly 150 m apart


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in perfect formation in order to


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simulate a single giant


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spacecraft. Earlier this year, the first


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step of the mission was successfully


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completed. Using a set of positioning


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instruments, flight operations managers


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were able to align the two spacecraft in


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formation and then monitor them as they


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maintain their relative position


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autonomously. Now following more


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fine-tuning and testing, the team have


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achieved the desired level of precision


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they need, making Prober 3 the world's


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first ever precision formation flying


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mission. Issa Prober 3 systems engineer


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Rafael Rugo says the task was carried


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out at an orbital altitude of 50,000


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kilm. Here Earth's gravitational pool


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small enough so that very little


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propellants needed to maintain flight


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formation. But then the formation's


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broken and needs to be acquired again


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over the next orbit in a repeating


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cycle. Now the ultimate goal is for the


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two spacecraft to align with the sun so


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that the 1.4 m disc carried on the


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Acculta spacecraft casts a 5 cm shadow


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onto the optical instrument aboard the


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chronograph spacecraft thereby allowing


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it to study the faint solar corona sun's


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outer atmosphere. The spacecraft are


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able to measure and control their


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relative position using a visually based


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system which includes a wide-angle


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camera on the Acculta, tracking a set of


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flashing LED lights on the chronograph


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spacecraft. Once the satellites get


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close enough to each other, a narrow


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angle camera locks onto the same set of


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lights, enabling more accurate


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positioning. Then a fine degree lateral


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and longitudinal sensor lasers used to


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achieve the millimeter accuracy needed


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for the mission. that laser is fired


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from the Acculta spacecraft and


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reflected by the chronograph's


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retroreflector back to the Acculta where


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it's detected. Finally, a shadow


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position sensor measures light intensity


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around the chronograph aperture to


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ensure the spacecraft stays in the


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shadow cast by the Acculta spacecraft.


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This report from TV


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probin for let's try issa's family of


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experimental small


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satellites over the last two decades.


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Proba missions have pushed forward


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spaceflight technology while gathering


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valuable science data. The next in the


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series, Prober 3, is the most ambitious


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yet. Two satellites fly together as one


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with millimeter level control of their


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positions within a precise formation. In


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the process, one will eclipse or block


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the sun for the other. to reveal our


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stars faint surrounding coronal


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atmosphere for scientific


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observation. Prober 3 requires a unique


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orbit. The occulta spacecraft with its


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1.4 m diameter occulting disc could


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observe the sun in


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eclipse. The satellite's orbit is highly


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elliptical taking them to a maximum of


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60,000 km from Earth.


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Gravitational, magnetic, and atmospheric


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pertubations are much lower this far


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out. This will make possible the precise


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positioning needed for formation flying


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and observing the sun's corona. At this


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stage, it is important that the prob 3


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satellites perform a series of maneuvers


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to position themselves in relatively


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safe orbits with respective to each


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other.


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Achieving this nullifies any risk of the


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pair either drifting away from each


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other or colliding. The separation


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between spacecraft will be as short as


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25 m and as long as 250 m with a nominal


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separation of around 150 m. The pale


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determine their relative positions using


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a suite of metrologies including radio


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links, satellite navigation and a


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visualbased system with optical tracking


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of blinking


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lights. Once sufficient accuracy has


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been achieved, the final step deploy the


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most precise measuring system of all,


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the laser metrology system known as the


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fine lateral and longitudinal sensor.


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With this laser link, the total


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three-dimensional formation can attain


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millimeter level


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control. At this point, the Eula lined


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up with the sun will cast a perfect


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shadow for sustained observation of the


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sun's otherwise invisible corona.


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Once the occult shadow is maintained in


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just the right spot on the face of the


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other satellite, it will be safe for the


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coronagraph to open its protective door


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and start scientific observations of the


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sun's


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corona. Solar scientists travel the


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world to glimpse brief solar eclipses,


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but Proer 3 will create eclipses on


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demand.


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This spaceime


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[Music]


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And time now to take another brief look


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at some of the other stories making news


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in science this week with a science


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report. Scientists have developed a new


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type of contact lens, one that will help


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you see in the dark. A report in the


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journal cell claims the lenses work by


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converting infrared light otherwise


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imperceptible to the human eye into


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visible light. And unlike night vision


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goggles, these lenses don't need an


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external power source. The technology


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behind the lenses rely on nano particles


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that absorb infrared which the authors


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bonded with non-toxic polymers used in


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standard contact lenses. When tested on


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people, participants could detect the


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location of flashing infrared lights,


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which they wouldn't be able to see


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without the contacts. Now, additionally,


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the authors say they could alter the


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nanop particles to convert different


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wavelengths of light into different


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colors, thereby allowing colorblind


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people to see color. Now, currently, the


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lenses can only detect infrared light


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projected from an LED light source, but


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researchers are now working on a version


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that could detect lower levels of


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infrared light out in the


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wild. It turns out the humpback world's


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epic migrations to tropical waters from


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the Great Southern Ocean are not as


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essential as previously thought for


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giving birth. A report in the journal


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Frontiers and Marine Science documented


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newborn calves around Australia and New


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Zealand with the southernmost found at


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Port Arthur and Tasmania. That's 1500


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kilometers further south than what it


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was previously thought humpac whales


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could carve. And the highest latitude


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births recorded by Humpac Wales were


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recorded even a little bit further north


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Kikor in New Zealand. The authors say


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it's very likely that this pattern of


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births along the so-called humpback


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highways always existed, but it was


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obscured when the population crashed due


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to


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whailing. A Microsoft artificial


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intelligence called Aurora has been


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shown to outperform existing Earth


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system forecasts, predicting extreme


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events, including weather, air quality,


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ocean currents, sea ice, and hurricanes.


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Existing methods need to analyze decades


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worth of data that require huge amounts


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of computing power. A report in the


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journal Nature claims all that data was


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fed into Aurora and the AI successfully


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outperformed seven forecasting centers


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in predicting the route of cyclones 5


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days in advance with 100% accuracy and


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92% accuracy for 10-day forecasts. Even


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better, training Aurora only took 2


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months, whereas existing methods can


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take years. Of course, it was only


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possible to train the AI so quickly


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because all that data used to train the


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AI had already been collected by


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existing Earth forecasting


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centers. Google have held their major


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artificial intelligence showcase IO


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2025. With the details, we're joined by


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technology editor Alexo from


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techadvice.life.


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Yes. Well, they've had their major


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Google IO 2025 event and this is where


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they announced a lot of new things about


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AI. So, one of the first changes that


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people in the US will see on the Google


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homepage, instead of seeing the I'm


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feeling lucky button, it will be AI


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search. And this is where you're


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effectively talking to Gemini and


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getting a full AI agent similar to what


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you get with chat GPT or by going to


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gemini.google.com. And it will expand


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what you get with the AI overviews and


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be a full-on assistant right there on


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the most famous homepage in the world.


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You'll also be able to use that with


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Google Chrome. It will be able to


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navigate multiple tabs for you. Be able


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to tell you what's on a web page. You


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can question that and talk to it. They


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were showing a demo where your assistant


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could ring up a store and get


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information about items in stock and


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come back to you and uh actually take


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actions for you. Now, these are still


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coming, you know, later this year. I


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mean, the Google homepage update is


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available now for those in the US. the


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Gemini live app itself that gives you


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the ability to not just speak to the


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chatbot like you could with Chat Gibbbit


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or Grock but also now you can see so


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we've spoken about this before but this


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previously was made exclusive to the S25


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range and Google Pixel phones then it


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was expanded to more Android phones and


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now it's available to all effectively


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modern Androids going back several years


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and also iOS. Now I have tested it on my


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phone with iOS and I don't have the


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camera icon there yet. It's probably


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something that is waiting for an update


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uh to come, but you'll be able to hold


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your phone up to anything and ask


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questions about it. Identify plants,


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animals, uh looking at instructions on


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how to put together some IKEA furniture,


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whatever it might be. This is like


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talking to a a robot except you're


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holding the phone in your hand. But


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there's plenty more. I mean, Google Beam


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is an update for Project Starite, which


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was a the ability to talk to people in


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what appeared to be like a 3D way, even


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though you were sitting in front of a 2D


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television screen. Now, HP is going to


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launch these big TV screens/ monitors


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with six cameras that will take images


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from various viewpoints around you and


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and simulate a 3D image. So you will


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feel as though you are actually talking


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to that person in a way that is more


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engaging and more real than just the way


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we do with Zoom and Google Meets and and


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uh FaceTime and Skype. Another example


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of Google's proess was with the Google


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Meet Zoom equivalent where somebody was


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speaking in Spanish, somebody was


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speaking in English. And a couple of


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seconds after you start speaking in your


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language, it's being converted into


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Spanish if you're speaking English. And


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it's being done in your tone of voice.


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In the demo, it was very quick and


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lifelike is effectively pretty much in


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real time. Updates to Imagine 4, the


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image editor. V3, the video editor, were


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now delivering much more realistic


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images. And with the video, it could


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pair that with audio that would match


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the physics of what was on screen. So


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they had a gentleman in a boat. the


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waves were crashing uh you know or just


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moving and you could hear them. It was


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very realistic. And they've actually now


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got a thing called Flow which takes all


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of their tools together and can make


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movies for you just by describing each


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scene and you can extend a scene and


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export the clips. Really quite


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incredible. Also an Android XR headset


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that's extended reality being made with


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Samsung and Qualcomm. Looks very much


00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:04.710
like the Apple Vision Pro except of


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course it's running Android. And then


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also these glasses looking like a pair


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of black rimmed Ray-B bands for example


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and there was a camera and you could


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talk to Gemini and you could see images


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that popped up and were translucent so


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you could see through them but they were


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in your field of view. You could pick up


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a map for example and and see the


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directions. If you look down you would


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actually see a little map displayed


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there and you could speak and see


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subtitles of what somebody else was


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saying and have that translated into


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another language. Lia 2 was audio. I was


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part of the uh suite that creates the


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videos and that was able to make this


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orchestral beautiful sounding rich


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music. Pretty amazing stuff. It's


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effectively all available now. How long


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it will take until it comes to Australia


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is yet to be seen. The Flow video


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creation tool is part of Google Gemini


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Ultra. Now, this is in US dollars,


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$249.99 a month. First three months are


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at half price. There was also a a pro


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version for about 20 bucks. And uh


00:21:00.080 --> 00:21:01.830
there's clearly it's free as well, but


00:21:01.840 --> 00:21:04.230
if you want more rate limits as it were


00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:06.310
and the ability to do more with the


00:21:06.320 --> 00:21:07.750
latest tools as they come out, I mean


00:21:07.760 --> 00:21:09.909
this is next level stuff. That's Alex


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Haravo from techadvice.life.


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