Jan. 28, 2025

Cosmic Mysteries of Fast Radio Bursts, Marsquakes Unveiled, and the Celestial Show of Comet...

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SpaceTime Series 28 Episode 12

Unveiling the Mysteries of Fast Radio Bursts and Mars' Geology

In this episode of SpaceTime, we delve into the enigmatic origins of fast radio bursts (FRBs), those mysterious cosmic phenomena that release immense energy in mere nanoseconds. Recent findings challenge existing theories about their sources, suggesting that some FRBs may originate from regions in ancient, dead galaxies, raising profound questions about the nature of these bursts and their potential as cosmic probes.

Is Mars Still Geologically Active?

A new study based on data from NASA's InSight lander indicates that Mars may still be geologically active. By analyzing marsquakes, researchers have uncovered evidence suggesting that the southern hemisphere of the Red Planet has a thicker crust and higher elevation than the northern hemisphere, providing insights into its geological history and evolution over billions of years.

Celestial Treat for Southern Hemisphere Sky Watchers

Sky watchers in the Southern Hemisphere are in for a treat as Comet C/2024 G3 Atlas dazzles with its stunning display following a close encounter with the Sun. The comet's vibrant tails and the alignment of six planets provide a spectacular opportunity for stargazers to explore the night sky.

00:00 Space Time Series 28 Episode 12 for broadcast on 27 January 2025

00:49 Mysterious origins of fast radio bursts

06:30 Evidence of geological activity on Mars

12:15 Comet C/2024 G3 Atlas and planetary alignment

18:00 New anti-clotting drugs for atrial fibrillation patients

22:45 Rare corpse flower blooms in Sydney

27:00 FDA bans controversial red dye number three

30:15 Declining trust in mainstream media

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✍️ Episode References

NASA

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Australian National University

https://www.anu.edu.au

Geophysical Research Letters

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/19447920

Royal Botanical Gardens Sydney

https://www.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au

New England Journal of Medicine

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00:00 - Space Time Series 28 Episode 12 for broadcast on 27 January 2025

00:49 - Mysterious origins of fast radio bursts

06:30 - Evidence of geological activity on Mars

12:15 - Comet C/2024 G3 Atlas and planetary alignment

18:00 - New anti-clotting drugs for atrial fibrillation patients

22:45 - Rare corpse flower blooms in Sydney

27:00 - FDA bans controversial red dye number three

30:15 - Declining trust in mainstream media

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this is spacetime series 28 episode 12


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for broadcast on the 27th of January


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2025 coming up on SpaceTime the origins


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of fast radio bursts are back in


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question is the red planet Mars still


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geologically active and southern


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hemisphere Sky Watchers get an


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astronomical treat all that and more


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coming up on


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SpaceTime welcome to SpaceTime with


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steuart Gary


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[Music]




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a surprisingly new discoveries raising


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fresh questions about the origins of


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mysterious deep space blasts of energy


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known as fast radio bursts fast radio


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burst to sudden high energy flashes at


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very specific wavelength lasting just a


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few Nan seconds and originating at


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Cosmic distances but in that brief space


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of time a fast radio burst or FB can


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release more energy than half a billion


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Suns the first FB was discovered back in


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2007 in data from the parks radio


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telescope in the Central West of New


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South Wales since then thousands more


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have been detected some appear to be


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singular events occurring just once at a


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specific location and then never again


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and that suggested being caused by some


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sort of sort of cataclysmic event such


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as an exploding Stu or a supernova but


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astronomers have been detecting more and


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more fast radio bursts that have


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repeated from the same location over and


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over again and that suggests a very


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different cause feeding black holes


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glitching neutron stars and highly


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magnetized neutron stars called


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magnetars have all been suspected and it


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could be that all fast radio bursts are


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repeaters with some just a lot more


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active than others however new


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Observatory which were able to better


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pinpoint the locations of these events


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have now raised questions about the


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hypothesis that they're being caused by


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feeding black holes glitching neutron


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stars or highly magnetized neutron stars


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called magnetar astronomer Calvin Leong


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from the University of California was


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excited last year to Crunch data from a


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newly commissioned radio telescope to


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precisely pinpoint the origin of a fast


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radio burst called FB 224 0209 a which


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was emanating from somewhere in the


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northern constellation of Ura minor


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Leong hopes eventually to understand the


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origins of these mysterious bursts and


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used them as probes to trace the large


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scale structure of the universe a key to


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the cosmos's origins and evolution now


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he had written most of the computer code


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that allowed him and his colleagues to


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combine data from several telescopes in


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order to triangulate the position of a


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fast radio burst however his excitement


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quickly turned a perplexity when his


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collaborators on the Canadian hydrogen


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intensity mapping experiment or chime


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turned optic telescopes onto the site


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and discovered that the source was


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actually in the distant outskirts of a


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long dead elliptical galaxy that by All


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rights shouldn't contain a magnetar the


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very kind of star thought to produce


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these bursts the Galaxy which is more


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than 100 billion times the mass of our


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sun is located some 2 billion light


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years away and it's around 11.3 billion


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years old so any magnetize in this


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ancient Galaxy should have disappeared


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long ago now this isn't the only fast


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radio burst to be found in a Galaxy the


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burst location is surprising Galactic


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Halos are usually populated by the older


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stars and so this raises questions about


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how such an energetic event could occur


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in a region where no new stars are


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forming the authors have been developing


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a series of three companion Outrigger


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radio telescopes associated with chime


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in order to further refine the location


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of the burst and with this new Precision


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optical telescopes can quickly pivot to


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identify the type of star or Star groups


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globular clusters spiral galaxies


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whatever that are producing the bursts


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and hopefully identify the actual


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Stellar source of the 5,000 or so fibb


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sources detected so far 95% have been


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detected by chime but few of those have


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been isolated to anyone specific Galaxy


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and that's hindered efforts to confirm


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whether magnetar or any other type of


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stuff for that matter are the likely


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Source the new observations using two of


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the Outriggers suggest the source of FB


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20242 9A could be in a globular cluster


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a dense region of old dead stars outside


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the Galaxy now if confirmed it would


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make this fast radio burst only the


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second to be linked to a globular


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cluster however the other FB originating


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from a globular cluster was associated


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with a live Galaxy not an old elliptical


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Dead one in which star formation had


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ceased billions of years ago so once


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again the universe is proving to science


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that it's not just Stranger than we


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imagine it's Stranger than we can


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imagine


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this is spacetime still to come is the


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red planet Mars still geologically


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active a new australian-based study


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suggests that it is and Southern


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Hemisphere skywatchers experience a real


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astronomical treat all that and more


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still to come on space time


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[Music]




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a new study has raised the possibility


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that the red planet Mars is still


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geologically active the findings


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reported in the journal geophysical


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research letters are based on a new


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analysis of a series of Mars Quakes


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recorded by the seismograph aboard


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ness's Mars Insight Lander one of the


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studies's authors Professor HOV talic


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from the Australian National University


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says Mars Quakes which are similar to


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earthquakes could offer clues about how


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the red planet evolved over billions of


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years the find ings could hope explain


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why the red planet's southern hemisphere


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has a thicker crust and is between 5 and


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6 km higher in elevation compared to its


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northern hemisphere a phenomenon known


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as The Martian dichotomy in fact the


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difference in topography between the two


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Martian hemispheres is similar in height


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to the highest mountain ranges on Earth


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this difference between the two regions


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was likely shaped by convection the


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transfer of heat from one place to


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another in the Martian mantle over


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hundreds of millions to billions of


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years ago the mantle is the a layer of


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Mars sandwiched between the crust and


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core tulit says the difference in the


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red planet's hemispheres is one of the


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biggest mysteries in the solar system he


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and colleagues analyzed waveform data


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from lowf frequency Mars Quakes captured


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by the inside Lander and they located a


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cluster of six previously detected by


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unlocated m Quakes in the planet


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Southern Highlands teras simeria region


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now the data from these Mars Quakes when


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compared with the world documented


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Northern Hemisphere Mars Quakes reveal


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how the planet's southern hemisphere is


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significantly hotter compared to its


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northern counterpart talit says


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understanding weather convections taking


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place offers Clues as to how Mass has


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evolved into its current state over


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billions of years he says there are two


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competing hypotheses to try and explain


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the origins of Mars's dichotomy the


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first referred to as the endogenic


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hypothesis States convection in the red


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planet's interior formed the dichotomy


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the second known as the exogenic


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hypothesis believes astronomical events


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shape the planet's atmospherical


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differences in other words the northern


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lowlands were caused by a big asteroid


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impact these new research findings


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provide the first observational evidence


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supporting the endogenic hypothesis but


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just getting there has been a real feat


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see on Earth there are thousands of


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seismic stations scattered all around


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the planet so it's easy to triangulate


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exactly where a specific earthquake took


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place but on Mars there was only ever


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the one single seismic station Insight


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which operated between 2018 and 2022


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when dust covered it solar panels


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finally brought the mission to an end


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our findings have two particular aspects


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and the first one is that we discovered


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uh new locations for already identified


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Mar Quakes that were available in the


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marqu catalog but their locations were


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not known and we identified a cluster of


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six marsquakes in the southern


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hemisphere of Mars namely in the


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Southern Highland and secondly we


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compared the characteristics of the


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seismic waves propagating from those new


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Mas Quakes in the south of the inside


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Lander with those from the M Quakes that


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were relatively well documented from the


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north of that Lander and we found the


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differences in the way the these seismic


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waves propagate which we attributed to


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the differences in the temperature


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between two sides of Mars South and


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north of that dichotomy border we know


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that our own Moon still has a a semi


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liquid core do your findings suggest


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that the same could be happening on Mars


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that there may still be some degree of


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fluidity in the Martian core or at least


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in the core mantle boundary area well


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that's a good question but I wouldn't go


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that far to interpret the Martian core


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based on our data although what we find


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is that the termal differences exist


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between the two to hemispheres that are


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significant and that's based on our


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measurement of the so-called seismic


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attenuation the way that the seismic


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wave energy weakens as the seismic waves


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are move through the Maran interior so


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the temperature difference is


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significant and remember that the Mars


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doesn't have the pl tectonic so if


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anything then it's really just a thermal


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factors that contribute to the Martian


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Dynamics as opposed to the Earth where


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you have both compositional and thermal


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effects so I wouldn't go that far to


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interpret the Martian core yet based on


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these findings but there are seismic


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data that suggest that the Maran core is


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in is in a liquid state indeed a lot of


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marsquake data that we've received from


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insight has resulted from asteroid


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impacts on the Martian surface other


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data has resulted from the thus region


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where we know there's been volcanic


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activity in the geologically recent past


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so it's all seems to be pointing to Mars


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still being geologically alive at least


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to some degree does that correspond with


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what you're finding in this new data


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from the southern hemisphere uh it might


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as well be I mean we we had another


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paper a couple of years ago where we


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found the repetitive marsquakes which


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are very similar to what happens on the


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some volcanoes on the earth and our


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conclusion back then was that Mar might


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have a Mobile interior based on on that


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behavior of the repeating M Quakes but


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you also mentioned the meterorite


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impacts and interestingly in this


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particular work we use meteorite impacts


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as sort of ground through location to


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test our method in other words how well


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we can actually locate these new or


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previously documented marsquakes for


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which the locations were not known so


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when we applied a method to this


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meteorite impact we were able to


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demonstrate that our locations are very


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close to the locations of the impact


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that that we recorded by orbital cameras


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and therefore we can use them to test


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our methods so meteorite impacts are


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extremely useful to us not only to


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verify the method but of course they


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also generate seismic waves that Ripple


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through the Maring interior and are


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eventually recorded So they are


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extremely useful to us what sort of


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thing would cause the Martian dichotomy


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that we see on the red planet we have a


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a very broad mostly flat Northern


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Hemisphere and a higher altitude


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mountainous and rugged terrain southern


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hemisphere what sort of things cause


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that well as you probably know there are


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two existing hypothesis on that there


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are competing hypothesis and I would say


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that our research and our newly


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published paper is the right step in you


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know in the right direction but I would


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say that debate will still going on for


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a while so just to remind you the


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so-called endogenic CAE would mean that


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the debate was generated by the internal


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forces of Mars perhaps a different style


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of convection in the past that was


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frozen and that manifest itself as the


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Martian dichotomy and that means not


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only the difference in the elevation uh


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which is quite striking 5 to six


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kilometers between the North and the


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South but also the thicker crust in the


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South and also the evidence of


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magnetized rocks in the South whereas


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the northern part uh seems to be lacking


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that signature so that's the endogenic


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hypothesis and then of course the


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exogenic that dichotomy might have


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resulted from giant uh either a giant


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impact of a or a series of smaller


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impact from space in the past so these


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are the two existing and the two


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competing Hy hypthesis and our findings


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are very much in line with the endogenic


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cause or the internal forces within the


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Mars that generated and shaped the D


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cosy that we see today what would you


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like to see happen next oh that's not


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very difficult to guess I would like to


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see more Landers carrying a seismometer


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we've seen from inside that it is uh


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with with a careful planning it is


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really possible to get out sending data


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set almost 4 years about 1,300 Mar


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Quakes if I'm not mistaken so I would


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say that Insight really is a prototype


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for future missions and I would really


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like to see more data on the Marin


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surface not just seismological data but


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any sort of geophysical and astronomical


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instrument or equipment you can


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imagine this this cluster of six events


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that we found in terraia has been


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previous identified in terms of M Quakes


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occuring and being recorded but they


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were not attempted to be located because


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the data quality is quite poor and so


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what we have done differently here we


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introduced several methods that are


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readily used in Exploration seismology


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here on Earth and when we apply these


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methods to the location because as you


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know we cannot perform a triangulation


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on Mars we don't have more than a single


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instrument so we have to be Innovative


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in the way that we locate marsquakes and


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when we apply this method that allowed


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us not only to locate these the cluster


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of six marsquakes in terraia but also to


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estimate the uncertainty I would say in


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a more robust way because we applied


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several methods that raises a good


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question how does one triangulate a


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location when you've only got one


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collection Point sure that forces you to


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be very Innovative and I should say that


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we do that on Earth as well in some


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remote areas where we have a let's say a


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very small earthquake and a single


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instrument so the first thing you need


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to do is to identify both P and S waves


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so the compressional and sheer waves


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compressional waves uh move faster than


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the than the sheer waves so from the


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difference uh between the two and


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knowing how quickly they move through


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the Earth interior or the Mars interior


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you can determine the distance to


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earthquake but that's just the distance


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it can be any anywhere on a circle and


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normally you would use several


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instruments to triangulate but in this


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case we have to rely also on the ground


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motion and from the ground motion the


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direction of the particles of the ground


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and how they move when the seismic waves


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pass through we can also determine the


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the azimut or the so-called back azimut


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of an earthquake and this is the


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basically the method that is used so


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determine the distance from the


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difference of pns waves and determine


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the azimut or the beim based on the


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ground motion that's Professor hiic from


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the Australian National University and


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this is space time still to come the


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southern hemisphere skywatchers get an


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astronomical treat and later in the


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science report a rare corpse flower has


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burst into bloom in Sydney's Royal


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Botanical Gardens all that and more


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still to come on SpaceTime


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[Music]




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time Sky Watchers in the southern


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hemisphere are enjoying a Celestial


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spectacular right now with the comet C


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2024 G3 Atlas putting on a stunning


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display following its close encounter


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with the sun last week the bright Comet


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surg through images is taken by The


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Joint Nasa European Space Agency solar


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and heliospheric Observatory spacecraft


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Soho Atlas made its closest approach to


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the sun perhelion on January the 13th


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soaring a me 13 million kilm above the


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solar surface that's just 9% of the


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average Earth Sun distance and exposes


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the icy Comet to incredible amounts of


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heat and that releases lots of volatile


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gases increasing the size of its coma


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and Tails images of the close encounter


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were captured by Soho's large angle and


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spectrometric chonograph instrument


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Lasco which uses a disc to cover the


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sun's surface revealing the finite


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details of the solar atmosphere Corona


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the comet was first detected back in


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April last year by the asteroid


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terrestrial impact last alert system or


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Atlas survey lasos helped discover over


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5,000 comets as they fly past the sun


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Carl badams Lasco principal investigator


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at the United States Naval Research lab


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in Washington DC processed some of the


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images to bring out finer details of the


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comet's tals when bright comets like


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Atlas pass close to the Sun their tails


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often react to fluctuations in the solar


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wind the constant stream of charged


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particles flowing out from the Sun heloh


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physicists can study the reaction of the


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tals to better understand the sun's


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effects on its neighborhood and comets


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passing nearby while it was briefly


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visible in the northern hemisphere Skies


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just after Sunset near perah helion


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Comet Atlas is now slowly receding from


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the Sun and it's best seen from the


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southern hemisphere where the comet it's


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moving into darker night skies and it's


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proving a spectacular sight just above


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the Horizon however there are signs


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starting to appear that the comet may


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have broken up following its close


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encounter with the sun and if that is


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the case it'll probably fade rapidly in


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coming


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days now adding to the display was the


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site of no less than six planets from


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our solar system all lining up together


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as seen from Earth this wonderful


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planetary parade included Venus Mars


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Jupiter and Saturn all visible to the


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the uned eye this month and for the


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start of February meanwhile Uranus and


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Neptune can also be spotted but you'll


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need binoculars to do that and faint


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Mercury set to join the parade as a


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bonus seventh planet at the end of


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February all in all a spectacular time


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to study the night skies this is


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spacetime


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[Music]


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and time now to take a brief look at


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some of the other stories making news in


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science this week with a science report


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scientists have developed a new class of


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anticlotting blood thinning drugs for


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patients with atal fibrillation atrial


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fibrillation is a persistent


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non-rhythmic beating of the heart that


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causes turbulence within blood vessels


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and that can lead to blood clotting the


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new drug appears to work significantly


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better at reducing bleeding events


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compared to the standard treatments


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people with atrial fibrillation are


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typically prescribed anti-coagulants or


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blood thinners in order to reduce the


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risk of a stroke but many discontinue


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them or never receive the prescriptions


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due to concerns of an increased risk of


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bleeding complications but simply if


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you're on one of these drugs and you cut


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yourself while shaving it never heals


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now a report in the New England Journal


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of Medicine has evaluated a new class of


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anticoagulants known as Factory living


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Inhibitors finding that aism AB


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significantly reduced bleeding compared


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to a standard of Care anti-coagulant


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River roxan see the problem is the risk


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of stroke increases significantly in


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patients with atrial fibrillation


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because blood clots form in the heart


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chambers and this can be pumped to the


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brain causing a stroke the authors


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enrolled 1287 participants from 95 study


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sites around the world they found that a


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150 migr dose of aisb reduced bleeding


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that required hospitalization or medical


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attention by 62% compared to River Vox


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and a 90 mg dose reduced the same types


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of bleeding by


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69% more than 20,000 people have lined


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up in Sydney's Royal Botanical Gardens


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to get a glimpse of a rare corpse flower


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which has finally burst into bloom the


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IND dangered plantet whose scientific


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name is amorphous titanium has the


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biggest most pungent flower spike in the


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world and it smells like old wet socks


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or Rotting Flesh while blooming the


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plant which is native to Western Samaran


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rainforests only blooms once every 15


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years and that bloom only lasts between


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24 and 36 hours the plant normally


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thrives in Shady moist and warm


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conditions at about 22° C and 75%


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humidity estimates suggest there are


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less than a th000 specimens left in the


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wild and so samples have been placed in


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botanical gardens around the world in


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order to keep the species alive this is


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the fifth corpse flower to bloom at the


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Sydney Gardens and follows predecessors


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in 2010 2008 2004 and a double bloom in


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2006 the US Food and Drug Administration


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has finally announced the ban on red D


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number three a controversial Food and


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Drug coloring long known to cause cancer


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the chemical which is also known as


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eosine has long been banned in most


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countries but has remained in use in


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some 3,000 food products in the United


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States the long overdue decision follows


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Decades of scientific evidence in fact


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back in 1990 the FDA determined that red


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3 should be banned from Cosmetics


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because of its link to thyroid cancer


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however the additive continue to be used


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in foods largely due to strong


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resistance from the food industry in


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America such as the manufacturers of


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marish cherries who relied on red 3 to


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maintain the iconic red Hue of their


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products it's also used in thousands of


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candies snacks Fruit Products and


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medicines the European Union banned its


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use in 1994 with similar prohibitions


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enforced in Australia Japan China the UK


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and New Zealand however even now the


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American ban won't be immediate


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manufacturers will have until 2028 to


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reformulate their


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products United States studies show that


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Global trusted news organizations and


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mainstream media reporting has now


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reached its lowest level for decades in


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the developed World a 2024 Gallup poll


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has found that the Legacy news media is


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the least trusted group among 10 US


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Civic and political institutions


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involved in the Democratic process and


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of course it's not just America here in


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Australia we've seen how the ABC lied to


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the public in their reporting of the hon


00:24:05.760 --> 00:24:07.430
Russell case where they've been forced


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to pay


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$390,000 in Damages that's taxpayer


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money of course to the former highly


00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:14.470
decorated Army Commando after they


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deliberately fabricated their story then


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there were the false allegations made by


00:24:19.120 --> 00:24:21.789
the ABC against George pel who was later


00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:23.590
found to be completely Innocent by the


00:24:23.600 --> 00:24:25.830
high court of Australia and of course


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there was the ABC's three-part Trump


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Russian collu H story which the FBI


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found to be untrue and invented by


00:24:32.120 --> 00:24:33.990
lawyers working for Hillary Clinton to


00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:35.909
take attention away from a classified


00:24:35.919 --> 00:24:38.350
email Scandal and it's not just


00:24:38.360 --> 00:24:40.669
Australia it's the same all over the


00:24:40.679 --> 00:24:44.230
world the BBC CNN MSNBC The Washington


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Post the New York Times Al jazer PBS NPR


00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:50.870
the list goes on all are losing ratings


00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:53.070
and subscriptions because the public now


00:24:53.080 --> 00:24:55.230
know the mainstream media are not


00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:56.870
telling the facts they're not letting


00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:58.789
the truth get in the way of a good or


00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:01.470
politically biased story instead of


00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:03.389
reporting just the facts with balance


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and without bias and they letting the


00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:07.190
public make up their own minds these


00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:09.190
days journalists are editorializing


00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:11.230
their stories telling the audience what


00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:13.990
they should think and why but with the


00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:16.110
dawn of social media providing so many


00:25:16.120 --> 00:25:17.870
different perspectives and exposing


00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:19.870
traditional mainstream media's lies


00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:22.029
trust in Legacy Media has been badly


00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:24.909
eroded and in fact it looks like it may


00:25:24.919 --> 00:25:27.350
now be gone for good Tim menum from


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Australian Skeptics says this is not new


00:25:29.679 --> 00:25:31.830
mainstream media's credibility has been


00:25:31.840 --> 00:25:34.029
diminishing for years mainstream media


00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:36.269
might recover by telling the truth might


00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:38.510
concept yes I mean you know media is


00:25:38.520 --> 00:25:40.149
biased from two points of view it's


00:25:40.159 --> 00:25:41.870
obviously it can be biased because of


00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:44.070
the just political and social leanings


00:25:44.080 --> 00:25:45.510
of the management and the people who


00:25:45.520 --> 00:25:47.350
work for it that means everything they


00:25:47.360 --> 00:25:50.110
say media's always been biased it's we


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had we had this unique period in the 6s


00:25:52.679 --> 00:25:55.230
and70s where the bias stopped for a


00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:57.269
while but it's come back it's come back


00:25:57.279 --> 00:25:59.269
with a force it if it stopped entirely


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either way the second thing is is the


00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:03.310
natural inbuilt bias to reporting in


00:26:03.320 --> 00:26:04.950
journalism where you can't possibly


00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:06.630
report everything within a story you


00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:08.230
can't report every story for a start and


00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:09.510
you can't report everything within a


00:26:09.520 --> 00:26:12.070
story so there's a selective nature of


00:26:12.080 --> 00:26:13.430
reporting it's just inbuilt there's


00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:14.669
nothing you can do about that and the


00:26:14.679 --> 00:26:16.350
question is what do they keep in what do


00:26:16.360 --> 00:26:17.990
they keep out hopefully they keep in the


00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:20.070
most pertinent bits but not always


00:26:20.080 --> 00:26:21.389
sometimes they keep in the bits that


00:26:21.399 --> 00:26:23.750
sell a story and they leave out the


00:26:23.760 --> 00:26:25.510
unnecessary detail that's got to


00:26:25.520 --> 00:26:26.870
counteracts what they're trying to sell


00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:28.630
so people don't trust what they it


00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:29.710
because they don't believe it they don't


00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:31.630
believe it for because they're told not


00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:32.990
to believe it or they don't believe it


00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:34.430
because they've had personal experience


00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:37.070
and they know how wrong a story can be


00:26:37.080 --> 00:26:38.350
most of us who have been interviewed for


00:26:38.360 --> 00:26:40.070
a story know there's always a mistake


00:26:40.080 --> 00:26:41.070
there somewhere yeah you don't want to


00:26:41.080 --> 00:26:43.149
see how the sausage is made do you not


00:26:43.159 --> 00:26:45.990
particularly no I mean well most people


00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:47.389
only see the outcome of Journalism they


00:26:47.399 --> 00:26:49.269
never see how a journalist works for me


00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:51.510
the BBC lost all credibility when I was


00:26:51.520 --> 00:26:54.110
working at the Abc I was the night


00:26:54.120 --> 00:26:56.149
anchor on news radio and we had this one


00:26:56.159 --> 00:26:58.230
story I forgot if it was from Reuters or


00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:00.510
AFP but it was a wire story and it


00:27:00.520 --> 00:27:02.750
simply pointed out that the crews aboard


00:27:02.760 --> 00:27:05.070
the raw Navy ships in the Gulf War had


00:27:05.080 --> 00:27:06.830
asked there and their Captain had agreed


00:27:06.840 --> 00:27:08.669
to it had asked their commanders to


00:27:08.679 --> 00:27:11.669
switch from the BBC coverage to the sky


00:27:11.679 --> 00:27:13.950
news coverage this is UK Sky News not


00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:15.389
not the Australian version and the


00:27:15.399 --> 00:27:17.389
reason they did that was because what


00:27:17.399 --> 00:27:19.870
they were experiencing in the Gulf War


00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:22.870
didn't match what the BBC were reporting


00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:25.870
yeah and when Ground truth doesn't match


00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:28.389
what you're seeing or hearing or reading


00:27:28.399 --> 00:27:30.269
then that's when credibility goes and


00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.190
you can almost never get that back yes I


00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:33.909
agree there's also very common thing


00:27:33.919 --> 00:27:35.549
these Cas of course with the electronic


00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:38.710
media and TV 24-hour news and the online


00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:40.389
news that people have to get a story out


00:27:40.399 --> 00:27:42.389
there as quickly as possible to beat the


00:27:42.399 --> 00:27:44.269
opposition and that means a story can


00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:46.110
run without proper checking it happens


00:27:46.120 --> 00:27:47.470
all the time of course and happens a lot


00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:49.190
with social media and things like that a


00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:51.350
rumor is as good as a reporting story


00:27:51.360 --> 00:27:53.149
apparently and it just runs and often


00:27:53.159 --> 00:27:54.750
it's hard to counteract even when you


00:27:54.760 --> 00:27:56.430
find out the truth so there's major


00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:58.870
issues always with journalism increased


00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:00.549
with with technology there also been


00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:02.230
increased because of this technology


00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.830
with approaches by journalists who want


00:28:04.840 --> 00:28:06.549
to make their name I mean one is the


00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.389
what I call the shark pack which means


00:28:08.399 --> 00:28:10.310
one journalist takes an attitude towards


00:28:10.320 --> 00:28:12.029
a particular story and everyone follows


00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:14.630
it regardless of how true that original


00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:16.470
approach is the other one is the classic


00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:18.070
gotcha moment where someone sort of


00:28:18.080 --> 00:28:19.909
throws in a curly question and if you


00:28:19.919 --> 00:28:23.350
can't answer bread or py whatever things


00:28:23.360 --> 00:28:25.230
like that you know and if you can't


00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:27.430
answer it straight away you you Bumble


00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:29.350
and Mumble and you look for like ah this


00:28:29.360 --> 00:28:30.990
person doesn't know anything it's futile


00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:32.630
it's point you know how you get over


00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:35.070
that and I've I've been in a situation


00:28:35.080 --> 00:28:37.149
where I've been live on air and the


00:28:37.159 --> 00:28:39.389
anchor of the show asked me a g a


00:28:39.399 --> 00:28:41.190
question like that and I simply look I


00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:42.470
don't know I'll have to get back to you


00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:44.990
on that it's really simple it doesn't


00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:46.630
make you an idiot there's a lot of


00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:48.230
journalists who are quite sincere try


00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:50.070
and do their work they stying in many


00:28:50.080 --> 00:28:51.350
ways especially these days with


00:28:51.360 --> 00:28:53.110
journalist numbers being cut back and


00:28:53.120 --> 00:28:54.470
therefore each journalist has to do a


00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:56.430
lot more stories the court reporter is


00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.710
also doing science reports which


00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:00.950
simply know anything they've always had


00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:02.990
that but yeah certain areas you have few


00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.389
journalists who are qualified to do


00:29:04.399 --> 00:29:05.909
something but anyway some people suggest


00:29:05.919 --> 00:29:07.710
almost naively I had a story in front of


00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.310
me by a professor of media studies


00:29:10.320 --> 00:29:12.750
journalism suggesting that one way to


00:29:12.760 --> 00:29:14.669
restore trust is by what he calls


00:29:14.679 --> 00:29:16.590
solidarity journalism which actually


00:29:16.600 --> 00:29:19.029
means going to the source of information


00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:20.710
and treating them respectfully and


00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:22.149
hearing their point of view rather than


00:29:22.159 --> 00:29:24.630
coming in for a fly in fly out sort of


00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:26.430
story reporting and often taking the


00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:28.470
most Sensational approaches well and


00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:31.509
good but in a 24-hour news cycle 5sec


00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:34.230
grabs shortage of Staff that's a nice


00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:36.470
ideal and unfortunately it doesn't work


00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:38.110
which means that journalism is having a


00:29:38.120 --> 00:29:39.590
hard time which means people don't trust


00:29:39.600 --> 00:29:40.870
journalists then again they haven't


00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:42.110
people haven't trusted journalists for a


00:29:42.120 --> 00:29:43.350
long time they've been putting the same


00:29:43.360 --> 00:29:46.110
basket as use car sales use use car


00:29:46.120 --> 00:29:48.230
salesman and politicians basically so


00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:49.830
they they're tied to that prodction to


00:29:49.840 --> 00:29:51.269
get over it tell the truth simply


00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.269
straightforward it's very sad when you


00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:55.990
think of how often credible journalists


00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:58.070
have died because they put truth to


00:29:58.080 --> 00:30:00.630
power yeah absolutely that's Tim mum


00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:04.280
from Australian


00:30:04.290 --> 00:30:16.710
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