Asteroid Threats, Dark Matter Discoveries, and Martian Volcanism Unveiled: S28E18
SpaceTime Series 28 Episode 18
The Astronomy, Space and Science News Podcast
Asteroid Threat Level Rusty, Dark Matter Experiment, and Martian Lava Rocks
In this episode of SpaceTime, we discuss the alarming increase in the threat level of near-Earth asteroid 2024 YR4, now assessed at a 2.3% chance of impacting Earth on December 22, 2032. With astronomers worldwide closely monitoring its trajectory, we explore the potential consequences of an impact from this asteroid, including the possibility of a catastrophic airburst or a significant surface collision.
New Dark Matter Experiment in Space
We also delve into an ambitious new experiment aimed at uncovering the mysteries of dark matter. Researchers are testing a device that could potentially detect dark matter by measuring tiny signals in a zero-gravity environment. This groundbreaking approach seeks to provide insights into the elusive substance that constitutes approximately 85% of the universe's mass.
Insights from Martian Lava Rocks
Additionally, we examine findings from NASA's Mars Perseverance Rover, which are shedding light on a critical period in Martian history. The analysis of igneous rocks in Jezero Crater suggests that the Martian crust was formed through widespread volcanism, offering a glimpse into the planet's geological evolution and its implications for understanding the early solar system.
00:00 Space Time Series 28 Episode 18 for broadcast on 10 February 2025
00:49 Increased threat from asteroid 2024 YR4
06:30 New dark matter detection experiment in space
12:15 Martian lava rocks and the history of the Red Planet
18:00 Microplastics accumulation in the human brain
22:45 WHO review on radio wave exposure and cancer
27:00 Genetically modified rice with reduced methane emissions
30:15 Jane Goodall's belief in Sasquatch and its implications
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00:00 - Space Time Series 28 Episode 18 for broadcast on 10 February 2025
00:49 - Increased threat from asteroid 2024 YR4
06:30 - New dark matter detection experiment in space
12:15 - Martian lava rocks and the history of the Red Planet
18:00 - Microplastics accumulation in the human brain
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this is spacetime series 28 episode 18
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for broadcast on the 10th of February
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2025 coming up on SpaceTime NASA raises
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the threat level for a potentially Earth
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impacting asteroid plans for a new test
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to try and identify dark matter and
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Martian lava rocks spreading light on a
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critical period in the red planet's
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history all that and more coming up on
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SpaceTime welcome to SpaceTime with
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steuart gar
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[Music]
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NASA has dramatically raised the Threat
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Level posed by a recently discovered
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neuroth asteroid NASA's jet propulsion
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laboratory in passing into California
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says the space Rock 2024 yr4 now has a 1
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in 43 that's a 2.3% chance of hitting
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the Earth on December the 22nd
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2032 now that's double last week's
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estimate of 1 in 83 or 1.2% chance of a
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direct hit the figures are consistent
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with independent estimates by the center
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for near Earth object studies and the
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near Earth object Dynamic side meanwhile
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the European space agency's Planet your
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defense office says it's now begun to
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closely track the newly discovered
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asteroid 2024 yr4 was first detected
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back on December the 27th by Atlas the
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asteroid terrestrial impact last alert
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system following its Discovery Issa
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elevated the asteroid to the top of its
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asteroid risk list and astronomers
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worldwide have started undertaking high
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priority follow-up observations closely
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monitoring the space Rock to try and
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find out more about its orbit and
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trajectory it's currently ranked as a
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level three on the Torino impact hazard
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scale and that suggests a close
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encounter which would warrant careful
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attention by both astronomers and
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authorities as well as the general
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public now based on the amount of
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observations available so far 2024 yr4
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appears to be on an elongated elliptical
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orbit around the sun it's currently
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moving away from the earth and that's
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making it more difficult to track so
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is's coordinating observations using
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larger more powerful telescopes such as
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the Catalina Sky survey and the European
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Southern observatory's VT or very large
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telescope in Chile the asid makes its
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next close approach to Earth on December
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the 17th
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2028 while a near Miss of around 10
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16,200 km in 2032 is still likely with a
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98% chance any potential Earth impact
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would be along an arc running from the
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central eastern Pacific Ocean across
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Northern South America then the Atlantic
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Ocean then equatorial Africa and finally
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onto Northern India the asteroids
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between 60 and 90 M across an airburst
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explosion of an asteroid of this size
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would be the equivalent of about 8
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megatons of TNT now that's more than 500
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times the power of the harashima nuclear
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bomb now if yr4 is a rubble pile
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asteroid and most of them are then it
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would likely air burst in the atmosphere
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similar the famous tangus event in 1908
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that's when an asteroid or Comet
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fragment measuring around 30 to 50 m
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wide exploded in the Skies over Siberia
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that blast flattened over 80 million
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trees in a matchwood across an area of
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over 2,000 square kilm with a blinding
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flash bright enough to be seen a third
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of the way around the world in London
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where it was reported that the explosion
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was so bright it allowed people to read
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their evening newspapers without the
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need to turn on lights on the other hand
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if yr4 is a rocky or iron asteroid it'll
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cut through the Earth's atmosphere like
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a knife slamming hard into the planet's
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surface producing a massive crater as
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large as Sydney or Melbourne Central
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business district with a destructive
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shock wave flattening buildings up to 20
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km away from Ground Zero if it explodes
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over the ocean the blast wave could
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trigger a tsunami however as more and
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more is discovered about this asteroid
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and its trajectory and orbit are better
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understood it's expected and hoped that
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the risk factor will drop needless to
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say no matter what happens we'll keep
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you informed this is spacetime still to
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come a new test to try and determine
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what mysterious Dark Matter might be and
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scientists say marshan lava rocks are
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shedding new light on a critical period
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in the red planet's history all that and
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more still to come on
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[Music]
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SpaceTime scientists are working on an
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ambitious new dark matter experiment in
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space which they hope can unravel one of
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the universe's greatest mysteries for
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years researchers have been baffled by
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the puzzling invisible force of Dark
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Matter first identified back in the
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1930s Dark Matter does not emit absorb
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or reflect light making it undetectable
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by telescopes put simply scientists have
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no idea what it is but they know it
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exists because they can see its
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gravitational influence on regular
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So-Cal bionic matter such as preventing
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galaxies from flinging apart as they
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rotate and acting as a gravit ational
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lens to amplify light from more distant
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background objects in fact based on
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these observations we now know Dark
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Matter makes up about 85% of all the
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mass in the universe that means that all
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the stars and galaxies planets gas and
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dust all the trees houses dogs cats cars
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and people only make up 15% of the total
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mass budget of the universe so trying to
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understand what dark matter is is an
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important step in science's quest to
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stand the cosmos put simply Dark Matter
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dictates the very structure of the
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universe and yet it remains a complete
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mystery now scientists have developed a
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New Concept which could Advance their
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understanding of Dark Matter they've
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started testing a device that measures
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tiny signals by firing lasers through
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graphite sheets levitating in zero
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gravity the study's lead author Tim FKS
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from the University of Southampton says
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it could be the first step to more
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space-based experiments that might one
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day be able to detect dark matter he
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says while there are lots of theories as
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to what Dark Matter might be no
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experiment on Earth so far has even come
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close to detecting it but this new
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experiment is unlike anything attempted
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before folks and colleagues will
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levitate graphite between magnets which
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in zero gravity are incredibly sensitive
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to small forces if there's a
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sufficiently high density of dark matter
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the dark wind it creates will softly
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push the levitated particles by a measur
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amount thereby providing the first ever
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direct detection of dark matter the
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experimental device would be blasted
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into space aboard a new satellite which
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is now being developed between space
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South Central and the universities of
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Southampton Portsmouth and Su under the
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name Jovian one different options are
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still being explored by the Jovin one
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team which hopes to launch the satellite
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early next year the Southampton Dark
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Matter device weighs just 1 1/2 kg and
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once deployed will fly around the Earth
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in low orbit for about 2 years in order
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to conduct its tests FK says there are
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many theories that say Dark Matters
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interaction rate may actually be so high
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that it cannot penetrate Earth's
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atmosphere or the mountains under which
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most Dark Matter detectors have been
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built now this might explain why all the
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major experiments on Earth that have
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been built to try and detect Dark Matter
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haven't revealed any conclusive results
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we want to do levitated mechanics in
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Space the goal is to provide a proof of
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principle test for a new method of Dark
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Matter detection we are not exactly sure
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yet ourselves what dark matter is it's
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very active uh field of research so we
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know it has to be out there based on
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gravitational effects but these are all
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indirect and we don't know what makes it
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up because it doesn't seem to interact
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with light and magnetism the way our
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conventional matter does it's very
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difficult to predict what kind of like
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technical implementations this knowledge
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might yield us but we're still in that
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like very early like fundamental
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Inception phase that's physicist Tim
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folks from the University of Southampton
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and this is spacetime still to come
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Martian lava rocks shedding new light on
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a critical phase in the red planet's
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history and later in the science report
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a new study warns that micro
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nanoplastics are accumulating at higher
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rates in the human brain than in see the
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kidneys or liver should we be concerned
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all that and more still to come on
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SpaceTime
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[Music]
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a new study suggests that the Martian
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crust was built up by widespread
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volcanism rather than the volcanic
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Hotpot remnants which doop the red
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planet surface today the findings
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reported in the journal science advances
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suggest that the ous Rocks now being
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examined by NASA's M perseverance Rover
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in jez Crater appear to date back to a
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crucial time period in Martian
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evolutionary history a time when the
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internal dynamics of the planet were
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undergoing major changes the study's
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lead author mck Schmidt from Brock
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University says volcanism on Mars is
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dominated by hotspots these are similar
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to Earth's Hawaii and Iceland where
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there's a focused magma Source deep in
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the mantle which punches up through
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everything including the crust to erupt
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on the planet's surface but early on in
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Martian history there's modeling to
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support the idea that the Martian crust
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was built up by widespread volcanism not
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necessarily focused on those hot spots
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and the transition between the two is
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thought to have happened around the same
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time that these rocks now being examined
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by perseverance were formed Schmid and
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colleagues used perseverance pixel x-ray
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fluorescent spectrometer to determine
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the fine scale Elemental composition of
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Martian surface materials allowing them
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to remotely dive deep into the rocks to
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investigate how they formed and what
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they're made of Schmid says the samples
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from jezzro crater are thought to be at
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least 3 and2 billion years old Mars is
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very well preserved in terms of its
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early geological history and so that
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opens a window on the early history of
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our solar system see we can't say the
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same for the Earth erosion and plate
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tectonics have recycled the Earth's
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surface making it much harder to work
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out what our original Planet was like so
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by studying the history of Mars we not
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only better understand the inner solar
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systems history but also that of the
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Earth Earth as well this is
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[Music]
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spacetime and time now to take a brief
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look at some of the other stories making
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news and science this week with a
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science report a new study has found
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that both micro and nanoplastics
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accumulate at higher levels in the human
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brain than in the kidneys or liver the
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findings reported in the journal Nature
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medicine also found that levels of
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microplastics found in brains and livers
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increased between 2016 and
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2024 the authors use new techniques to
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look for plastic particles in liver
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kidney and brain samples from human
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body's autopsi between 2016 and 2024
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including some 52 brain specimens in the
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2016 samples the authors detected
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Plastics in all samples and found
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similar concentration in the livering
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kidneys but brain samples from 2016
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contain substantially higher
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concentrations of plastic particles than
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either the liver or the kidneys in the
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2024 samples the authors found plastic
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concentrations have become much higher
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in brain and liver tissues than those
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from
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2016 and interestingly concentrations in
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the brain were highest in 12 people who
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had dementia now this link between
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microplastics in the brain and dementia
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can't prove causation so reearch want to
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look at a wider range of tissue samples
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in order to investigate the health
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effects of microplastics in human
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organs a World Health Organization
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commission systematic review has failed
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to find any association between radio
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wave exposure and various cancers
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including Leukemia Lymphoma thyroid and
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oral cavity cancers it's the second who
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commission systematic review which has
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looked at the association between cell
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phones and cancer the first published
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last year looked at the association
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between cell phones and brain and other
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head Cancers and also failed to find any
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link you can read the latest study in
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full in the journal environment
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International scientists of bre a strain
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of rice which emit 70% less methane
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without compromising yield methane is a
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greenhouse gas more potent than carbon
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dioxide and it's become a specific
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concern as global warming increases and
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growing rice is responsible for around
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12% of global methane emissions with
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demand for the staple growing rice emits
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methane due to specific chemical
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compounds in its roots and researchers
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investigated differences between a
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genetically modified variety with low
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methane emissions and another variety
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with average emissions in order to
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identify which compounds were
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determining how much methane is being
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released once they identify these
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compounds the authors bred a high yield
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variety of rice with a non-GMO low
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emitting variety with the chemical
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composition they were looking for a
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report the journal molecular plant
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claims growing the plants from this
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cross breeding produce 70% less methane
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compared with the original high yield
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Vari previously used for
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breeding Dr Jane Goodall one of the
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planet's most respected primatologist
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and anthropologists says she's certain
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that Sasquatch in other words Bigfoot is
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real sasquatch is a giant 3 m tall apik
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bipedal hominid reported to inhabit the
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North American Wilderness especially
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around the forest of the Pacific northw
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West it also has its counterparts such
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as the yeti or abominable snowman which
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is said to roam the Himalayan mountain
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ranges of Asia although there have been
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thousands of alleged anecdotal sightings
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lots of disputed films video recordings
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photographs and even plastic casts of
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large Footprints no scientific evidence
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such as remains or DNA samples have ever
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been found but Tim minum from strin
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skeptic says for good all there's no
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debate and no hesitancy Bigfoot is real
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it is a fascina story because she's a
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very sympathetic person she comes across
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very well she's obviously done a lot of
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research on chimpanzees in Africa for a
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long time she's very sincere seems to be
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very qualified in that area but like a
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lot of scientists you have to be very
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careful when they step slightly outside
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their areas of expertise because they're
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just syndrome well yes yeah they're just
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as as prone to sort of Step as making a
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mistake as as the rest of us they're
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human like the rest of us but yeah Jane
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Goodall is always been a hero of
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everyone it's one of those sort of
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people like David aten Jane goodle that
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sort of person everybody loves but for
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years yeah possibly um for years she's
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been making in interviews and things
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she's been saying that she definitely
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believes in bigfoots and yetis and
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probably yahs if you ever heard of the
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Australian variation squats all that
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sort of stuff she can see she says one
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is no reason not to believe it and two
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yes it's worthwhile believing in it so
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the reason no reason not to believe it
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is totally pointless because it means
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you haven't looked at any evidence
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you're trying to find an Evidence where
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something doesn't exist is very hard you
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certainly have to look those who claim
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that there's evidence and look at the
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evidence okay so it's up to the claimant
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to put forward the evidence really you
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can't sort of say there's no evidence at
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all she's really not following the
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scientific method is she no not at all
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she I mean the evidence is the evidence
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that's been put forward on the belief is
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poor very anecdotal very sort of vague
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all those sort of things whether it's
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personal stor sightings sounds whatever
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Footprints you name it it's always very
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sort of dodgy things and because no
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one's actually found one right captured
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one killed one whatever it makes you
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only relying on these an toal and sort
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of very very vague evidence but that's
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not good enough in a scientific
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environment you got to get do better
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than that thank you very much and it
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seems that Jane goodle who's a scientist
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qualified very experienced in primates
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Etc has been coming out over the years
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and sort of not just once it's been a
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whole range of different times that she
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said this giving credence to yahi stat
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squat Bigwood Etc is a worry because
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people will believe it because she's a
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believable sort of person she's a nice
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person she in her scientific Community
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that's got to affect her credibility
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people have got to think she's being a
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Nutter yes it happens a lot but then
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people often allow for that and they say
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yeah well she's a nut in that area but
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in this area she's very good and does
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that override all the good things she's
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done not if you believe her not if not
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if you if you support her not if you
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have faith in her Etc you'll just regard
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this as sort of an Abomination a
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aberration this case both well we all
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have human foibles I guess we all have
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human fbl in a story about Alfred
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Russell Wallace which I written about a
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number of times who was the co-
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developer discoverer of natural
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selection in evolution the same time is
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believing in head bumps ionology
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believing in spiritualism believing in
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all sorts of pseudo Sciences Etc at the
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same time as being a scientist and they
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noted and approved scientists the people
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who work with him Etc just said oh
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that's just Alfie being a bit strange
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over there but his work here is great
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and you think well does that mean that
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the person himself is is wrong is the
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work wrong an agile problem anyway so
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Jane goodle because she is respected
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because she comes across well and
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because she gives Credence to the
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possibility that means it exists and
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people will believe her saying it exists
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and you say ah Jane goodle says you know
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it's true and she should know therefore
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it must be true unfortunately not you
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could say the same thing about Edwin
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Hubble he he believed in in elves and
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yet uh he was a brilliant astronomer and
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that's timum from Australian Skeptics
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