Ancient Impacts, Lunar Ice Potential, and the Return of X37B: S28E33
SpaceTime Series 28 Episode 33
The Astronomy, Space and Science News Podcast
World's Oldest Meteor Impact Crater, Water Ice on the Moon, and the Secretive X37B Shuttle Returns
In this episode of SpaceTime, we unveil the discovery of the world's oldest known meteor impact crater located in Western Australia. This ancient structure, dating back 3.5 billion years, was identified in the Pilbara region and challenges previous notions about Earth's geological history and the origins of life. We discuss the implications of this significant find, including its potential to reshape our understanding of crust formation and the environments conducive to early microbial life.
Water Ice on the Moon
We also delve into exciting new research suggesting that water ice may be found just centimeters below the lunar surface across a much larger area of the Moon's polar regions than previously believed. Based on observations from India's Chandrayaan 3 mission, these findings could greatly influence future lunar exploration and habitation efforts, highlighting the potential for accessible sources of water ice.
The X37B Space Shuttle's Secret Mission
Additionally, we cover the return of the United States Space Force's X37B space shuttle after a classified 434-day mission. The shuttle's successful landing at Vandenberg Space Force Base marks another milestone in its ongoing operations, which include specialized testing and reconnaissance in orbit. We explore the implications of this mission for national security and the future of space operations.
00:00 Space Time Series 28 Episode 33 for broadcast on 17 March 2025
00:49 Discovery of the world's oldest meteor impact crater
06:30 Implications for Earth's geological history
12:15 Overview of potential water ice locations on the Moon
18:00 Findings from the Chandrayaan 3 mission
22:45 Return of the X37B space shuttle
27:00 Summary of recent scientific developments
30:15 Discussion on advancements in HIV prevention
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00:00 - Space Time Series 28 Episode 33 for broadcast on 17 March 2025
00:49 - Discovery of the world’s oldest meteor impact crater
06:30 - Implications for Earth’s geological history
12:15 - Overview of potential water ice locations on the Moon
18:00 - Findings from the Chandrayaan 3 mission
22:45 - Return of the X37B space shuttle
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this is Spacetime Series 28 episode 33
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for broadcast on the 17th of March
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2025 Coming up on Spaceime the world's
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oldest meteor impact crater discovered
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in Western Australia More potential
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locations for water ice on the moon and
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the super secret X37b space shuttle
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returns to Earth following its latest
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mission All that and more coming up on
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Spaceime
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Welcome to SpaceTime with Stuart
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Garry Scientists have uncovered what is
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now the world's oldest known meteor
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impact crater in Western Australia
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Remnants of the ancient 3 and a half
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billiony old structure were discovered
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in the north pole derm region of the
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Pilbur in the state's north The previous
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oldest known impact crater also in
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Western Australia was dated at 2.2
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billion years The new discovery reported
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in the journal Nature Communications
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could significantly redefine science's
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understanding of the origins of life and
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how the planet was formed and evolved
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One of the study's authors Tim Johnson
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from Curtain University says the
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structure challenges previous
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assumptions about Earth's ancient
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history Johnson and colleagues
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discovered the crater thanks to shatter
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cones distinctive rock formations that
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only form under the intense pressure of
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a meteor strike The shatter cones at the
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site about 40 km west of Marble Bar were
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formed when a meteor slammed into the
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area at more than 36,000 kmh
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Johnson says this impact would have been
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a major planetary event resulting in a
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crater more than 100 kilometers across
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which would have sent ejected debris
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high into the atmosphere eventually
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raining back down across the entire
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planet He says the face of the moon is
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proof that large impacts were common in
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the early history of the solar system
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But until now the absence of any truly
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ancient impact craters on Earth has
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meant they're largely ignored by
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geologists Johnson says this study
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provides a crucial piece of the puzzle
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of Earth's impact history and suggested
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there could be many more ancient craters
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yet to be discovered Uncovering this
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impact structure and finding more from
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the same period could also help explain
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how life began on Earth That's because
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impact craters generate environments
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friendly to microbial life such as hot
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water pools full of mineral nutrients
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Johnson says it also radically
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redefineses science's understanding of
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crust formation You see the tremendous
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amount of energy from this impact could
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have played a major role in shaping the
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Earth's early crust It does this by
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pushing one part of the crust under
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another or by forcing magma to rise from
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deep within the Earth's mantle up
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towards the surface It may even have
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contributed to the formation of large
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ancient geological structures stretching
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deep down into the planet that may well
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be the foundations of today's continents
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So in 2022 we published a paper in
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Nature suggesting that the Pilra caton
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ultimately may have formed above one of
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these giant impacts of the type that we
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see on the on the surface of the moon
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Those dark Luna Mariah the Imbrium
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crater you know there was very big
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impacts that hit the moon There was very
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big impacts that hit the Earth And we
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believed as I say that the Pilocraton
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could have been a consequence of these
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And we used at that time we found some
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evidence based on the chemical
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composition of these tiny sandsized
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grains of the mineral zirkon So zirkon
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is very very robust chemically and
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physically robust It also contains lots
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of radioactive uranium which decays over
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time for lead So we can date it and its
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host rocks very very accurately And we
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can also measure various trace elements
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and isotopes of oxygen and hapneium and
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other sorts of things in these zirkon
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grains to say something about how they
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might have formed and the processes Now
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that is all a bit esoteric and it's all
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sort of microscopic or nanocale science
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So it's very difficult for anybody to
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get their heads around really and I
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don't think very many if any people
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really believed that paper So we thought
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we would go up to the Pilra and try and
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look for some more macroscopic evidence
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if you like Could we find the crater or
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the crater a floor and we simply started
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our search right in the middle of the
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exposure of the most ancient rocks So
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part of the Pilraaton the most ancient
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core of it is called the east Pilra
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terrain and that is a curiously round
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set of exposures of rocks about 200 km
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across And in the middle of that is a
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structure called the North Pole Dome So
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we headed there and in particular to
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find this unusual layer called the
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Antarctic Creek member We were looking
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for that because that layer people had
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formerly found sper So sparials are
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quite simply the frozen droplets of melt
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that forms as a direct effect of the
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heat of the impact But they can also
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form as the result of volcanic eruptions
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But at least this layer had some
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evidence for a distal impact So we
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thought we would start there And we
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parked our four-wheel drives just off a
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dusty truck heading south from the main
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road where we thought these rocks might
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appear Three of us got out and had a
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wander around and we agreed to meet back
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at the vehicles an hour or so later And
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we found when we did meet back we
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thought we'd all found the same thing
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which is this feature called shatter
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cones in the rock And shatter cones are
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the only unequivocal evidence that you
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can see with a naked eye for a direct
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meteorite impact crater So shatter cones
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are known almost exclusively from what
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are called the central uplift of big
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craters So much like when you drop into
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water that drop hits the surface and
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then you have a rebound the drop comes
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back up Um that's exactly what happens
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with big craters So the impactor hits
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and then the center where you've had the
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maximum impact force rebounds and you
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get something called a central uplet And
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that's what we believe this whole big 20
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or 30 km wide dome in the middle of the
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East Pilra is And we found the evidence
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supporting that which was extremely
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lucky but very nice The Zirkons then
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gave you the date for that Yes So this
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layer Antarctic creek member it is
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called it's a very unusual very complex
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layer a whole mish mash of lots of
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different things including broken up
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bits of bassalt and shirts and these
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sperial layers and it's sitting in
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between a few kilometers of bassalt
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underneath it and a few kilometers of
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bassalt above it These shatter cones are
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developed right the way throughout this
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20 m or so thick layer called the
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Antarctic creek member But immediately
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above them are these beautiful pillow
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lavas So like giant toothpaste sort of
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squirted out which tell us that they
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were erupted underwater But there is no
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sign of shock at all in those rocks
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above And we traced them up for several
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tens of meters to try and look for
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shatter cones above where we found them
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and couldn't find any The Antarctic
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Creek member is also overlaining by
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these really complex carbonate breers
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that penetrate into it as dikes and big
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fractures So what we think we're looking
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at is the surface of the crater We're
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actually standing on the crater floors
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in this huge structure which is the
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central uplift of the crater So because
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we didn't find any shatter cones above
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we think the stratographic age of that
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layer the Antarctic creek member gives
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you the age of the impact and
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fortunately the geocchronologists of the
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geological society of Western Australia
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had already dated the rocks and there is
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a layer of felicit volcanic rocks below
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the shatter cone bearing horizon which
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has been dated by uraniumled ziron to be
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3.47 47 billion years old And the
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bassalts above there is a layer of
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feltic volcanics in those as well which
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has also been dated at 3.47 billion
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years old So that provides us with a
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stratographic age of 3.47 for the um
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shatter cone bearing horizon So we knew
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we had our age and we had our oldest
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impact breaker This discovery is really
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exciting because we know Earth was
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formed as a result of meteor and
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asteroid impacts It's called accretion
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There was a big one about 4.5 billion
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years ago which we call thea the moon
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Yes So we know this happens but there's
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also a thing with the earth called plate
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tectonics and also we have erosion and
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things like this So the early earth's
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history is something we know very little
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about This ancient impact must be
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telling us a lot about the history of
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our planet Absolutely Yes Yes I mean
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we've argued it's 2018 really where we
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first got into this that large impacts
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were absolutely fundamental to earth's
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early evolution as we can see they were
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on all the other silicate bodies in the
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unis solar system that we can see be
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they planets moons or asteroids as you
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say plate tectonics is an incredibly
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efficient way of recycling the surface
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the rigid surface of the earth the
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lithosphere and the crust back into the
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convecting mantle So most of the
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evidence is destroyed particularly given
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that most of the planet would have been
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oceanic and most of those impacts would
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have been into the ocean and and they've
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subsequently disappeared But we do have
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areas of really really truly ancient
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continental crust these so-called catons
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that occur in the middle of all of the
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continents and they started forming
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right at the tail end of what we know
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would have been an intense bombardment
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from the formation of the solar system 4
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1/2 billion years ago right up to 3 1/2
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billion years ago So we should be able
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to find evidence of these impacts and we
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think we do and we think they would have
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been fundamental to the processes
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operating then including how those
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catons might originally have come to be
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but also how for example the earliest
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mineral systems the earliest
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hydrothermal mineralization systems
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formed and perhaps even creating the
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ecological niches from which life
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eventually took a foothold and emerged
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to become us The catons themselves
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they're fascinating because they've
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given place like Western Australia where
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you are it's mineral wealth that's made
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at one of the richest places on earth
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quite literally Exactly So many of the
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mineral deposits things like gold and
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nickel and lithium even are found
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predominantly in these aranatons and at
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their margins and we don't think that is
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a coincidence So yes in incredibly
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important processes and incredibly
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important consequences for humankind I
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mean we argue that large impacts created
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the land masses on which all humankind
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walks and the life from which we evolve
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So they couldn't be more fundamental in
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our view The link between the cratons
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and meteor impact site is quite
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fascinating What's the idea that the
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asteroids slammed into the earth and it
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melted everything underneath and that
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went all the way deep into the went into
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the deep mantle because some of these
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cratons can can go close to the core
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mantle boundary that melted material
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just upworld because of the the lack of
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pressure and so it was able to upworld
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towards the surface towards the crust
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Absolutely That's the that's the key
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point this decompression The earth is a
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layered structure and we have this rigid
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lithosphere crust which is sitting on
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top of the convecting mantle underneath
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and the convecting mantle is primed to
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melt and think of it like slowmoving
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molasses or honey Yes You can also think
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of it as a bit like a champagne bottle
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if you like So the only thing that's
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stopping the molasses the convecting
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mantle from melting is the fact that
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it's got a a lid on it This lithosphere
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Okay So that's like the cork in the
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champagne bottle As soon as you remove
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that lithosphere or you remove the cork
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everything goes mad and your champagne
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starts squirting out the top It's
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exactly the same for the mantle If you
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remove the lithosphere in with a big
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impact then the underlying mantle will
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melt profusely and produce huge volumes
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of bassalt So you'll get something like
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an oceanic plateau So something like on
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Java or even Hawaii those sorts of
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things But because Earth had still
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retained its water it still had a
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hydrosphere and and that hydrosphere is
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still around You then offer yourself the
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possibility of reprocessing that thick
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basultic pile of rocks into more evolved
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continental rocks granics if you like So
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the pale colored rocks And once you've
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formed those pale colored rocks they're
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really stable because they're they're
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much less dense than the basil And they
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basically float and and stay around for
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billions of years as as we know they
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have And one of the fundamental things
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about platons one of the fundamental
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observations that anybody can make when
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looking on Google Earth or geological
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maps is that they are uncommonly round
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And you need to provide a decent
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explanation as to why that would be
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because it's important I think
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geologists have perhaps forgotten what
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we have traditionally been good at which
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is making straightforward observations
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mapping things and recognizing patterns
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and then trying to interpret those
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patterns That's exactly how we
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discovered plate tectonics the patterns
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of the magnetic reversals on the seabed
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allowed people to interpret those that
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they were sites of creation of new crust
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That's how geology came about in the
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first place an observation was made of
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rocks on a cliff and they noticed that
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Yeah it was folded over Exactly Exactly
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And it would have taken time for that
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folding to take place Of course Of
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course And and it's those fundamental
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observations that people interpret And
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of course you know way back in the 17th
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and 18th century we didn't have any
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machinery to measure isotopes or trace
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elements or anything like that It really
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was what you can see with your eyes and
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map out to try and make sense of that
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But just fundamental observations such
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as catton if you look at maps of the
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Pilra caton or even the old one of the
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oldestratons the slaveraton it's just
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uncommonly round a circular feature and
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then that's a very hard thing to do with
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plate tectonics plate tectonics features
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like spreading ridges or continental
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arcs like Japan and Indonesia they're
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all these big long linear features
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that's exactly what you would expect if
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you have rigid plates jostling against
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each other and where they meet that's
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where all the action is happening But
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you wouldn't expect plate tectonics to
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produce anything like a a circular
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structure You would expect that to
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result from either impacts or these
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mantle plumes that is the other sort of
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widely held This is the hot spots like
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Hawaii and Iceland Precisely Yes So in
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the earlier well the earth certainly
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would have been hotter and you might
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expect mental plumes to have been even
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more vigorously active but it just
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doesn't make sense when you compare the
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likelihood that the impacts could have
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given rise to the same thing That's
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Professor Tim Johnson from Curtain
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University and this is spacetime Still
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to come a new study suggests water ice
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may be present just a few centimeters
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below the lunar surface over a far wider
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area of the moon's polar regions than
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previously thought And the United States
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secret X37B space shuttle returns to
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Earth following its latest classified
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mission All that and more still to come
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on
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Spaceime A new study suggests that water
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ice may be present just a few
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centimeters below the lunar surface over
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a far greater area of the moon's polar
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regions than previously thought The
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findings reported in the journal
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communications earth and environment are
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based on observations by the Indian
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Chandrean 3 mission in
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2023 It showed that the moon's surface
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is covered by large yet highly localized
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variations in surface temperatures It's
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an important factor because future
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long-term exploration and habitation of
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the moon will depend on the availability
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of ice to provide water So far
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measurements have shown the presence of
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water ice in cold sinks These are the
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dark permanently shadowed floors of deep
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polar craters that never experience any
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sunlight The only previous direct
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measurements of lunar surface
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temperatures were taken way back in the
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1970s by the Apollo missions However
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those missions all landed near the
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equator where terrain slopes had little
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effect on temperature The sites were
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several thousand kilometers from the
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proposed southern polar landing sites
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now being selected for the future
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Artemis man missions The study's lead
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author Dugra Prasad from India's
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physical research laboratory analyzed
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temperature readings taken on the lunar
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surface and down to a depth of 10 cm by
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a temperature probe experiment aboard
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the Changeran 3 vicram lander which
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touched down right at the edge of the
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lunar south pole Brasard and colleagues
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found that temperatures at the landing
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site a sun-facing slope angle at about
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6° peaked at around 355 Kelvin that's 82
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degrees C and dropped to 105 Kelvin
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that's - 168° C during the lunar night
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However a lower peak temperature of 332
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Kelvin or 59° C was measured on a flat
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region just a meter away The authors
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then use this collected data to derive a
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model of how slope angle affects surface
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temperatures on the moon especially at
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higher lunar latitudes similar to the
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landing site The model indicated that
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for slopes facing away from the sun and
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towards the nearest pole a slope with an
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angle greater than 14° may well be cool
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enough for ice to accumulate close to
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the surface And this is similar to
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conditions at the lunar poles including
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those at the proposed landing sites for
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Artemus The authors therefore suggest
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that areas on the moon where the ice can
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form may be far more numerous and easier
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to access than previously thought This
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is spaceime Still to come America's
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super secret X37b space shuttle returns
00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:19.990
to Earth following its latest mission
00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:22.310
And later in the science report we may
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finally be a step closer to a once a
00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:27.110
year injection which could help prevent
00:18:27.120 --> 00:18:29.990
HIV infection All that and more coming
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up on
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Spaceime The United States Space Force's
00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:51.830
highly secretive X37B space shuttle has
00:18:51.840 --> 00:18:54.270
returned to Earth following a classified
00:18:54.280 --> 00:18:57.110
434-day orbital mission It was the
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seventh mission for the program which
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uses two of the wing space planes to
00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:03.029
undertake specialist orbital testing and
00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:05.669
reconnaissance operations The landing at
00:19:05.679 --> 00:19:07.430
the Vandenberg Space Force Base in
00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:09.590
California took place appropriately
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under the cover of darkness in the
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middle of the night and the touchdown
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wasn't publicly announced until several
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hours after its pre-dawn return The
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mission had launched aboard SpaceX
00:19:19.760 --> 00:19:21.990
Falcon Heavy rocket from NASA's Kennedy
00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:25.590
Space Center way back in December 2023
00:19:25.600 --> 00:19:27.830
While few details were released by Space
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Force mission managers they did say the
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flight successfully demonstrated the
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vehicle's ability to change orbits by
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using aerobreing that is atmospheric
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drag to slow down in the process saving
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valuable fuel And that's an important
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development because one of the big
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advantages of the X37B is its ability to
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easily change orbits making it difficult
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for the enemy to keep track of Following
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its deployment from the Falcon into a
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highly elliptical orbit the reusable
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space plane conducted what Space Force
00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:58.630
describes as space domain awareness
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technology experiments that aim to
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improve America's knowledge of the space
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environment Now that word salad suggests
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that one of its functions is close
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proximity inspector missions studying
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imaging and maybe even attaching spy
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equipment onto enemy satellites First
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launched back in 2010 the Boeing made
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autonomous spacecraft are based on a
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prototype originally developed to be
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transported into space in the payload
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bay of NASA's space shuttle fleet and
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then deployed on missions lasting well
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over 900 days And the previous X37B
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mission OTV6 lasted 98 days in orbit
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Genuine proof of concept This is
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spaceime
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And time now to take a brief look at
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some of the other stories making news in
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science this week with a science report
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Early stage trials suggesting that a
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once a year injection to prevent HIV may
00:21:04.080 --> 00:21:07.110
now be a step closer to fruition
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HIV is the human immuno deficiency virus
00:21:09.840 --> 00:21:13.110
which causes AIDS The findings reported
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in the Lancet medical journal found that
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one injection of the drug licamp into
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the muscle resulted in the compound
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remaining detectable in the blood for at
00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:24.310
least 56 weeks At the one-year mark the
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study found the drug was safe and that
00:21:26.159 --> 00:21:27.510
blood levels of the drug were still
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higher than those recorded in previous
00:21:29.280 --> 00:21:30.870
studies where the drug was shown to
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block HIV transmission However as a
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phase one study the trial didn't
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actually measure the drug's
00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:38.310
effectiveness at preventing HIV
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infection and so further clinical trials
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will be needed including with
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participants from more diverse
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population
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sets Scientists say the record-breaking
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high sea temperatures of 2023 and 24
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were strange but not totally unexpected
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when looking at climate models A report
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in the journal Nature's found that
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global sea surface temperatures reached
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record highs breaking the previous
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records by around 0.25° 25° C The sudden
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increase raised concerns that global
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warming might be accelerating faster
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than models had predicted However
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looking at observation-based statistical
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models the authors found the jump was
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considered to be a 1 in 512-year event
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relative to current warming trends This
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means that while such an anomaly would
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have been practically impossible without
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current global warming trends the events
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not entirely unexpected
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Paleontologists have discovered red
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dinosaur footprints hiding in plain
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sight at a central Queensland high
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school A report in the journal
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Historical Biology identified 66
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fossilized footprints on a boulder at
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the school representing one of the
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highest concentrations of dinosaur
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footprints per square meter ever
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documented in Australia The footprints
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are from 47 individual dinosaurs which
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passed across a patch of wet clay while
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walking along or crossing a waterway
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during the early Jurassic some 200
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million years ago The three-toed
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footprints belong to the ignore species
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Aurpus Scampus a small bipedal
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herbiviverous dinosaur between 15 and 50
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cm in length with long legs a chunky
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body short arms and a small head and
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beak The boulder containing the
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the local high school And it wasn't
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alone A second rock also containing
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dinosaur footprints from two different
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species was found decorating the mine's
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car park entrance while a third much
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smaller dinosaur footprint covered rock
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had been encased in resin and was being
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