Feb. 25, 2025

The Last Showgirl: Pamela Anderson’s Triumph and the Trials of Aging: S04E04

The Last Showgirl: Pamela Anderson’s Triumph and the Trials of Aging: S04E04

**Host:** Alex First
**Guest Critics:** Greg King, Sandy K, Peter Krause
**Episode Summary:**
In this captivating episode of First on Film & Entertainment, host Alex First is joined by critics Greg King, Sandy K, and Peter Krause as they delve...

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Season 4

**Host:** Alex First
**Guest Critics:** Greg King, Sandy K, Peter Krause
**Episode Summary:**
In this captivating episode of First on Film & Entertainment, host Alex First is joined by critics Greg King, Sandy K, and Peter Krause as they delve into the latest cinematic offerings just in time for the Oscar season. The discussion kicks off with *The Last Showgirl*, a gritty portrayal of an ageing Las Vegas showgirl played by Pamela Anderson, who delivers what many are calling the performance of her career. The critics explore the film's emotional depth, character dynamics, and the challenges faced by women in the entertainment industry, with Sandy expressing her surprise at Anderson's compelling portrayal. The conversation then shifts to the darkly comedic short film *The Monkey*, based on a Stephen King short story, where the panel debates its over-the-top gore and humour, with opinions divided on its effectiveness as a horror satire. Finally, the critics share their thoughts on the much-anticipated *Bridget Jones: Mad About the Boy*, with mixed reactions to the film's nostalgic charm and character development. Listeners can expect a lively exchange filled with insightful critiques and engaging commentary on contemporary cinema.
**Highlights:**
- **The Last Showgirl:** A raw and emotional exploration of the struggles faced by ageing performers, with a standout performance from Pamela Anderson that challenges preconceived notions.
- **The Monkey:** A pitch-black comedy that blends horror and humour, leaving critics divided on its excesses and appeal.
- **Bridget Jones: Mad About the Boy:** A nostalgic return to the beloved character, sparking discussions about growth, maturity, and the complexities of single parenthood.
00:00:00 - Around about this time of the year, there are some good movies around
00:01:04 - The Last Showgirl is a gritty piece about an ageing Las Vegas showgirl
00:05:29 - Alex says Pamela Anderson looks fabulous in new film Last Show Girl
00:10:47 - Greg King: I have misgivings about The Last Showgirl
00:16:03 - Showgirl panelists give their scores on last rated M M movie
00:17:46 - The Monkey is a pitch black comedy based on a 1980 Stephen King short story
00:22:43 - Greg: This is one of two gory horror films around town at the moment
00:23:42 - Peter Moore: I was disappointed by this film. I was expecting it to be stronger
00:28:45 - Greg says movies in general depict violence in such a way that it motivates
00:31:31 - There are suggestions now that if somebody sees a violent act they'll film it
00:36:17 - Greg: Based on how good Pamela Anderson looks, I give this movie three stars
00:37:39 - Give me a score for the Monkey. Peter, I'm scared to ask
00:38:35 - Greg Gutfeld was pleasantly surprised by the latest Bridget Jones movie
00:39:45 - Greg Gutfeld: Were you pleasantly surprised or not about Bridget Jones
00:41:39 - Sandy says many common names are made up nowadays
00:44:18 - The film stars Hugh Grant as Bridget Jones
00:45:49 - Peter Howell was pleasantly surprised by the fourth Bridget Jones film
00:48:50 - I felt that the Bridget Jones character was regressive in this film
00:51:53 - Of the four second best movies, where would this one sit
00:52:57 - Peter says he doesn't always promote Nick because he has his own opinions
00:54:31 - James Bond is the UK's biggest film franchise, I have to say
Join the First on Film & Entertainment team for an engaging episode filled with passionate discussions and cinematic insights. Don’t miss out on next week’s exciting film reviews!
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First on film and entertainment.

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Gad Day to all, and we have got some good

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movies to talk about, maybe some not so good movies

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as well, but generally speaking around a bit this time

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of the year.

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As I've said before, we're sort of.

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Into the Oscar season and there's some pretty good product around.

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One of the things that surprised me, which we'll talk

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about later, is the latest.

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Bridget Jones movie.

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But before we do that, there's a horror film to

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talk about, and there's also a movie which surprised me

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because I reckon this is the best performance of Pamela

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Anderson's career. I'm talking about The Last Show Girl. To

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join me to talk about this. Greg King, good, I,

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how are you doing so?

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I'm good?

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How are you?

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Alex?

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Very well kindly? And Sandy k Hello.

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Hello everybody, Hello, Greg, Hello Tina.

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And there is the one that we're talking about, the

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racalcitrant one, the Fossil, the guy who was there when

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Adam was but a boy.

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Hello, Peter Grause, Hello from the Pterodactyl.

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Hi everyone, good ey.

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Now let's talk about The Last Show Girl, which I

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got to say is the.

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Perfect running time.

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We're talking under an hour and a half by one

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minute wow M rated movie. It's sort of a really

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gritty piece about the travails of an aging Las Vegas

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showgirl and those around her.

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It's got this real feel to it as far as

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I'm concerned.

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And back in the day, we're talking decades ago, the

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character played by Pamela Anderson, whose name is Shelley, was

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one of the headline acts in a show called Lazzle Dazzle,

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and that was fashioned on erotic parashows like Billido. She's

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now fifty seven, so she's the eldest in the company.

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The company itself is way past its prime, but the

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show girls, well, the show must go on, as they say,

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and they continue to put on happy faces and dress

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in sexy lingerie, complete with rhyan stones and feathers and

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of course the towering head dress for which they're known.

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Truth be told, though, as I mentioned, the numbers have

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dwindled those attending, and they've been overtaken by a new

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breed of entertainment. But Shelley takes pride in what she does,

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and for her, this is more than a job, it's

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a calling. That's not so much the case for her contemporaries,

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including rather prematic mary Anne played by Brenda Song, and

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an enthusiastic nineteen year old called Jody played by Keenan

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Shipcut Shelley Well, she lives by herself, would dearly love

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a man in her life, and she's sailed troubled waters

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unfortunately in that regard. When she hits the latest speed

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bump because of bloke she met on the site stood

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her up, she invites her friends around, and that includes

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an outspoken former dancer who's now a cocktail waitress called Annette,

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a role filled by Jamie Lee Curtis, somebody who wears

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far too much makeup in this particular production, and deliberately,

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I might say she left Larrazzle Dazzle six years ago

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but remains very close to Shelley and to the troop. Now,

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in turn, the nineteen year old Jody has extended the

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invitation to this soiree to the show manager, whose name

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is Eddie played by Dave Batista. And I'm kind of

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impressed because the more I see of Dave Batista, I

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see that he's capable of doing more than sort of

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thug this roles, and this is one example of that.

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In this case, he's a man of very few words.

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Who cares about Shelley. In fact, the pair of them

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has history, but there's also an awkwardness between them. Eddie

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drops a bombshell. The new casino owners where the show's

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been playing are calling time on larazzal Dazzle, and you

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can imagine it does leave Shelley disconsolate. She has no

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idea what to do next. She does not embrace what

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she regards as the bump and grind of the New

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age reviews that I referenced at the beginning. Same time,

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she tries to reconnect with her now adult twenty two

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year old daughter Hannah played by Billy Lord.

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Don't be the man who's going to be with us?

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What was that some music sting in the background, which

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we will ignore anyway. There now adult twenty two year

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old daughter Hannah played by Billy Lord, who has a

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rather checkered upbringing. They have a strained relationship mother and daughter.

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Hannah struggles to forgive her mum for the choices that

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she's made, so life's not easy for many of the

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players in this one. They strive to keep their heads

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above water and there are no big pardons. In the

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last show Girl, I reckon that's what makes it noteworthy,

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and you know it is a memorable movie. The writer

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is Kate Gerston, makes her feature writing deboo. All the

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more applaud its to her for that. She's pulled no

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punches and the film is all the better for it.

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Among the tensil and confected glamour, everything is a bit

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of a scrap. The director is Gea Coppola. That's Francis

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Ford Coppler's granddaughter, the co writer and director of Parlo Alto,

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and she does a fine job letting the material breathe

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and painting a rather hardened picture. The cinematographer Autumn durand

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Arkpoor who did Black Panther Wakando Forever, taps into the

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unrelenting grind that is the strip, and I really admired

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Natalie Zerring's production design, which adds to the last show

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Girl's authenticity. A lot to be said for the music

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choices original numbers from Andrew White, he was responsible.

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For music in Barbie.

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But the star of this show unquestionably Pamela Anderson, who's

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not only maintained an enviable figure but excels in the lead.

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She's really potent as.

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The spirited and vulnerable Shelley, who has had her fair

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share of Knox in her life, and the pain is

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quite evident.

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Cast Round is really good too. There's muscularity of voice

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and demeanor.

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I mentioned Dave Batista, he revels in his less is

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more gentle giant approach to this one. And then Jamie

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Lee Curtis My Golly presents as larger than life, gregarious,

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loud and ken and Shipka brings a naivitate to Jody

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and Brenda's song lives in the moment wise to the

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vagaries of an uncertain industry, so certainly worthy of attention.

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The last show Girl, the tarnish is on full display,

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and I brought into it.

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What about you, Sandy.

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I absolutely love this film for a host of different reasons.

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I've never been a Pamela Anderson fan, particularly given that

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I'm not male, so I never really.

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Oggled over her at all.

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But as you said, Alex, she looks fabulous, she sounds wonderful,

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and the personality that comes out of her in this role.

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She plays just such a sweet character. You can't help

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thinking that that's kind of who she is as a person. Also,

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we haven't seen her on anything really since those Baywatch days.

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For quite a while, she's been on series like Home

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Improvement and VIP, and unbeknown to me, she came to

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fame and fortune when she first was Playmate of the

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Month for Playboy magazine in nineteen ninety.

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Oh yes, I do remember that. I've got this for researpurpose.

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This isn't, of course, Sandy.

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Her body looks the same as it did in those days.

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It's incredible. She's fifty seven years old now and she

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looks amazing. But her face, she's let it go. She

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doesn't seem to be plumping it up with botox and fillers,

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and she doesn't seem to have tattooed eyebrows because they're

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very thin. And she's done all these appearances to promote

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the film without any makeup on whatsoever.

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So cutos to her for that. I thought her acting

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was wonderful.

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I thought the part she played was fabulous, And as

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an aging woman myself, you can really relate to not

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only one career coming to an end, and she's had,

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as you said, this long standing career for thirty years

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as this show girl, and it's like, what do you

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do now? How do you reinvent yourself, what is she

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going to do? She needs the money to live.

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She struggled with her.

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Now twenty something year old daughter in bringing her up

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and having to pay attention to eking out an income

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at the same time as playing mum, and she's suffering

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in her adult relationship with her daughter as a result

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of not being able to pay full attention to the daughter.

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I canin'd of get that too.

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For any woman who is either responsible for bringing home

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the bread or is interested in having a career, something

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has to give if you've got kids, and that's it.

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I love the.

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Camaraderie between the follies that the girls in the in

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the troop themselves, and Jamie Lee Curtis was wonderful as

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really somebody, as a cocktail waitress who was really too

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old to be in that role already. It's kind of

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the whole.

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Thing was really sad and really.

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Moving, but somehow uplifting at the same time, if that

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makes sense. I thought it was really deeper and it

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hasn't left me since I've seen it. I keep reflecting

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on all the various nuances that go on in this movie.

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Totally agree with you, and it's interesting if you think

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about some of the names in the ages of the

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names that you've mentioned. It's been fortunate that with British

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cinema you've got people who are well and truly over

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sixty and over seventy, who continue to appear not so

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much that I'm cognizant of in US cinema. And you've

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had the resurrection of Demi Moore, I mean, well and truly.

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You know, she's in fine form obviously in the Substance,

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and Oscar nominated and so on. You've also got Jamie

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Lee Curtis, who keeps on keeping on, whether it's horror

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or doing something like this, and now you've got Pamela Anderson.

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So it's a year of revival. I'm very, very pleased

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to know that.

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And I'm also because one of my greatest criticisms is

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you get a lot of movies where they put women

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in particular over the age of sixty five and their

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vacuous roles. They go off and they explore and find

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new love in Europe or or places like that, and

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so many of them are disappointing.

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Sandy, So you know, I agree, yeah, and so you know.

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That I certainly hope that if there's decent scripts and

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it gets back to the writing. If there's decent scripts

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for women over the age of sixty or sixty five,

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whatever it might be, well.

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You know, then you can bring out the best into people.

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But if they're vacuous roles and you're playing airheads, I mean,

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that doesn't push anybody. So, Peter, what did you think

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of this movie? Which at the last show go.

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Look, I liked it to some extent, but I have

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misgivings about the storyline and about some of the way

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it is shot. Gia Coppola has made an interesting decision

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to shoot the film in widescreen handheld camera and lots

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of close ups, and of course we see Pamela Anderson

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close up a lot of the time in the film,

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and I'm wondering sometimes as I was watching the film,

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superficial for my liking. And this is a case where

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to develop her backstory, her the mother daughter relationship, and

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the Jamie Lee Curtis character, who I thought was such

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an interesting one. When she does this impromptu total eclipse

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of the heart dance during the film, I thought, Wow,

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this character deserves a bit more backstory and information, and

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it was nice to see Jason Schwartzman in a brief

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but telling role in the film. But there was just

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something about the film that was lacking for me in

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terms of the story development, in terms of the character development,

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even though Pamela Anderson is very good, although I didn't

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like so much some of the close ups that she

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was involved with.

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So I thought, it explained to me why you didn't

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like those close ups because they were raw.

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They were raw, but they were repetitive, and I felt

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that they were not developing the character, particularly because we

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wanted more. I wanted more information, backstory and so on.

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I mean, this is all part of the story about

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how young women initially attracted to Broadway to Hollywood, the

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busby Berkeley type situation where they all want to be

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a star and they all want to make good in

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show business, and this could have been integrated more into

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this story as well. So look, I think there's much

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to admire about The Last Show Girl, but there's also

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some aspects of the film that I wish were better developed.

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I was going to say though, that you got the picture.

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I mean it was a slow bleed.

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You got the understanding as the movie unfolded as to

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what had gone on previously. Surely you didn't need that

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spelled out chapter and verse before the before you know,

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you saw that that was the purpose of the story.

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You didn't understand exactly what was going on with the daughter,

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and then when the.

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Daughter visits you get that backstory, and you also get

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the backstory with her former lover, et cetera.

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I would have thought that's a lot of movies do

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it that way, Peter.

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Well, I would have liked a bit more story and

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character development. It's a bit superficial. It's a bit dismissive. Yes,

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we're given information, but it's not developed particularly strongly, hence

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the short running time, which could have been banded with

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a big more storyline. So yep, I'll stick to my

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view of that.

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Eighty nine minutes. Was that enough for you, Greg King? Oh?

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Yes, more than enough.

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Actually, this is a good companion piece to the Substances

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whom you referred to earlier, because both films look at

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how women has rereaded in an industry that values youth

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and beauty over anything else, and which can lead to

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sort of problems. A better reference to the handheld camera work,

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which gave us sort of an insurance intimacy to the

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characters there. I thought this was only much more bitchy

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backstage stuff too. Of the show girls there, especially the

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younger showgirls. I thought there's a lot more bitchy there.

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I did like Jamie Lee Curtis and that scene that

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you've referenced it where her she's standing on the tabletop

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to that Bonnie Tyler hit there.

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I like that scene. I thought that was good.

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Jamie Lee Curtis been something a little bit more vulnerable

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to this performance there.

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Pamela Anderson here.

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and this is a role that sort of gives her

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a perfect chance to showcase some of her acting talents

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move maybe on that image of Baywatch that we all remember.

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were you surprised at how good this was?

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Greg, Well, I weren't expecting much from to be honest.

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That's exactly what I'm saying.

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That you go in there thinking, oh, well, yeah, you know,

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easily dismissed. But I was suitably impressed. I was seeing

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he obviously Peter el and look at Las.

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Vegas sort of in all that's imperfect.

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Glory, hedonism and all of those sorts of things as well.

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So okay, So in terms of what you would fault

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about it, what would you highlight?

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You can get a lot of yeps about some of

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the characters there as well, some of those things there.

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And look, it was a little bit you know, you

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like go short films here, You're probably need a bit

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more insight into the back story.

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I insane it won't say it's bet made.

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Okay, Well, so I suppose that we'll go from tallest

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to shortest, and we'll start with you, then, Peter. Your

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score out of ten for a movie that some people

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I think are going to really appreciate, and perhaps some

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more than others.

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The last show.

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Girl rated M and we've talked about the running time,

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what would you give it?

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Sure, I'll give it six out of ten.

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Okay, what about you? Greg?

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Six out of ten?

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All right, so high marks are going to be Sandy

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and I Sandy, go for it. Ah, I'm giving it

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an eight.

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I really enjoyed it, and I agree with you guys,

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where you didn't expect much from it. And when you

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walk into a film and you don't have expectations and

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you are blown away, as I was with this, then

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it makes it all the more better an experience. I

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really loved the nuances of this film and I loved

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how it was shot on a small budget. I think

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Geocoppola has done a fabulous job and Pamela Anderson really

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huge qutos to her for being brave enough to get

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out there and play this part.

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Yeah, definitely in aight, Alex and.

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I've got an eight to an eight and a half,

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So there you go. So we really are quite divided

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in terms of our scores, but nevertheless, I think I

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certainly would say or commend it to you as a

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film that's worth seeing. That's the last show Girl on

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of all different forms. Let's turn to another movie called

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The Monkey Now. This also is a short film ninety

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eight minutes, m A rated and dare I say it's

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a film with heaps of dastardly monkey about.

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It's over the top. Absolutely, you bet it it is.

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And it revels in beheadings, spearings, disembellment and explosions.

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So you've got humans splatter virtually everywhere. And no, I'm

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not trying to turn you off. I am not.

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This is a pitch black comedy based on a nineteen

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eighty short story from Stephen King, written and directed by

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Osgoode Perkins, who did the rather scary Long Legs not

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so many years ago. It follows a man named Hal

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Shelburn who's terrorized by a drum banging and they don't

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like to use the word toy, but I'm going to

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use it by a drum banging toy primate that keeps

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misfortune on whoever possesses it. And we follow Hal and

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his minutes older twin brother Bill, who treats Hal shamefully.

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Now we're talking two time frames here nineteen ninety nine

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and the present day. These boys Hel and Bill with

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the flower pot Man.

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No, not quite.

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They were raised by their mother Loess, played by Tatiana

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Mass and that was because one day their father, Shelbourn

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played by Adam Scott, who was a pilot, went out

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to buy a packet of cigarettes and never returned. And

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Hal first comes across this monkey among his dad's belongings

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in a storage closet as the dad's traveled. As Shelbourne

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traveled and flew about, he collected keepsakes for the boys.

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Be that as it may.

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This particular keepsake, the simeon, is a portent of doom.

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It's bug eyed, and once the key on the back

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of the animal is turned, all hell breaks lose. So

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when the monkey bangs on his drum, people die always

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so after their beloved, quirky and caring mum croaks it,

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the youngsters are brought up by their uncle and aunt,

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and you can guess what happens to them. It's not

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if they're knocked off, but how They've always tried to

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eliminate this chimp by chopping it up and throwing it

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down a dry wind well, but it always finds a

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way to return and wreak even more havoc. Now, a

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quarter of a century later, its mercilessness shows no signs

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of abating, even though the brothers have been estranged at

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that point for years. Now, how a single separated father

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is trying to save his own son the emotional turmoil

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that he faced by seeing him only very sparingly. But

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the truth will out as a brother Bill comes back

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into the picture. Now, one thing I should mention is

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the only time we see the boy's father is at

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the start of this movie.

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He's dressed in bloodied pilot's.

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Uniform and is trying to pourn this monkey with disastrous consequences,

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and that sets the scene for the movie that follows. Now,

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if you look at the book, and I'm not sure, Greg,

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I'll start with you on this one soon. But he's

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taken liberties with the Stephen King books. I'm not sure

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where you have read the book or not.

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That's a short story in a collection of short stories called.

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Jelus and Creue.

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Okay, it has been expanded beyond what was on the page,

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So it's not a book.

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It's just it's just.

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A shorts toy and anthology short stories written by seven King.

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Okay, fair enough, well, he's personalized it. I was good Perkins,

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That's what I was getting at. And the most significant

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chain changes the addition of a twin, and Perkins wanted

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that brotherly dynamic. Toxic though it is, because that's how

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he Perkins grew up. It is a wild, wild ride

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the monkey, and that's sort of a gross understatement. It's

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horror mixed with humor, distasteful and over the top. Though

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some will see it, others are going to wholeheartedly embrace it,

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and I think that was apparent when we saw it

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in the media preview. It's such an extreme movie that

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really capitalizes on excess, and a line in the film

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references the fact that everyone will die sometime. I really

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appreciated the representation of the opposite good and bad twins

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by Christian Convrey as children and by Theo James as adults.

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Tatty Anna mass Laney's laid back attitude as their mum

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also struck a chord with me. And really the director

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and writer OSGARB. Perkins has embraced the grizzly and the absurd,

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and as a result, this is the sort of film

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where you have to suspend belief simply run with it

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to appreciate it, don't dig too deeply into the plot.

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Among the most memorable scenes is one early on where

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a priest delivers a matter of fact eulogy. Can't say

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I've heard anything quite like that before. And then there's

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the imagery of the less than conventional ways to carget,

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some of which will remain with me for a long

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long time.

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One thing is certain. The monkey's a killer, al right,

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isn't it so? Greg? What did you think of this

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chip of a movie?

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Look, this is a bit of fun that.

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A lot of the gesture you know, the boy body

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explosions and gore there is actually played for sort of

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uncomfortable last year, So you find yourself laughing at some

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in appropriate moments here.

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And this is one of two glory horror.

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and which plays it much more seriously with the way

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what he's torn apart and killed there. But this one

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is a lot of fun there, and you don't quite

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know what's going to be happening as the film keeps

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going there, and the relationship between the two Estrange brothers

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sort of comes to a crunch in the climax there.

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But I found myself enjoying this morning. I thought I would.

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But as I said, as taking liberties or as you said,

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as taking liberties with a short story that wasn't sort

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of particularly memorable, and it made something a bit more

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memorable out of it.

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Yeah, which is great.

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I mean that shows a creative talent and that's a

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good thing to actually do. Now, Peter, I hesitate to

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even ask you about this one, but let go for it.

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Okay, my view, I preferred Osgod perkins previous film Long

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Legs with Nicholas Cage, because I thought that was a

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good mix of the horror genre and the drama. This

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00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:10.359
one moves into the horror satire sort of field. And

453
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:12.880
we've been seeing a number of films as Greg mentioned one,

454
00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:17.000
and of course Heart Eyes was another one where we

455
00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:24.960
mix over the top murders, killings, beheadings, slasher type situations

456
00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:29.160
with a sort of satiric bent attached to it. I

457
00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:31.680
must admit this one didn't convince me at all. I

458
00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:35.039
thought it was a very uneasy mix of those two

459
00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:41.720
sort of genres. And the toy. The monkey toy didn't

460
00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:44.720
make a great deal of sense to me. I thought

461
00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:49.160
it was there as an object which didn't really have

462
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:52.880
any particular relevance to the plot. It was just a

463
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:56.759
device to try and get more murders and slasher say

464
00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:00.960
into the film. I was disappointed this film. I was

465
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:05.200
expecting it to be a lot stronger, perhaps a bit funnier,

466
00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:09.440
perhaps a bit cleverer, and yet it turns out to

467
00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:13.319
be none of the above, unfortunately. So no, I'm not

468
00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:14.640
a great rhaps of this film.

469
00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.160
Okay, I think Stephen Kingstoy we supposed to have had

470
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:20.319
a bit of a model to without being careful what

471
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:20.920
you wish for?

472
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:22.759
Is that right? Okay?

473
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:26.839
Well, I mean I suppose, yeah, you can see this

474
00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:29.559
in the movie as well. Now, Sandy, I wouldn't have

475
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:31.559
thought this is your kind of film, but go for it.

476
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:38.519
Oh my gosh, I think it. Absolutely detested it.

477
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:43.440
I haven't strongly in the negative about a film for

478
00:25:43.519 --> 00:25:44.920
a long time as this one.

479
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.359
Well, right, I'm not the target audience. I mean the

480
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:53.680
feat people were laughing their heads off almost. That's the point.

481
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:55.359
This is what I was going to say to all

482
00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:55.680
of us.

483
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:59.359
Okay, So, Peter, do you do you accept that this

484
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:03.359
is not you because it's aimed at a different audience

485
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:03.680
or not.

486
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:07.400
You have to acknowledge the audience it's aimed for. That

487
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:10.759
as a film reviewer, you have to see it as

488
00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:11.559
you see fit.

489
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:15.640
Well, that's what Sandy's saying as well, but she's acknowledging

490
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.200
which I mean. I sat next to a couple of

491
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:22.960
youngsters who were filled with glee throughout Sandy, as you've

492
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:23.559
just described it.

493
00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:26.839
What I noticed that there was mainly young men, because

494
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.000
I spent a lot of time looking around the audience

495
00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:33.160
to see who were laughing so heartily, and it was

496
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:36.480
young men. This is a young man's movie, although my

497
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:39.240
old man partner sitting next to me was laughing out

498
00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:43.200
like also, I couldn't believe it because he usually really

499
00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:46.640
likes a serious, deep movie, and this is anything but

500
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:52.640
that stupid, antius gorgeous for the sake of gore, heads

501
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:56.680
falling off, blood spurting out, people being electrocuted.

502
00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:59.720
I don't find any of that particularly funny at all.

503
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:04.359
But again, I'm not the target audience young men old men,

504
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.039
and I don't mean to be sexist here. Maybe some

505
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:10.200
women were laughing too. I couldn't see any or hear

506
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:14.240
any cackling. But no, I mean it's well done. I

507
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:15.440
suppose for what it is.

508
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:21.000
I can't disregard that. And I mean, when it's the

509
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:25.039
Stephen King take off, that's kind of what you expect.

510
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:27.720
You know that it's going to be a whole lot

511
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:33.200
of creepy stuff and retro and all of that. So yeah, okay,

512
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:36.039
I knew that's what we were going to have. The acting, Yeah,

513
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:37.960
it was good. The only thing I got really out

514
00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:40.960
of it was that one of the twins, who when

515
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:43.279
he's grown up, was actually very good looking.

516
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:46.880
So I was enjoying looking and listening to his voice.

517
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.000
They were played by the same as same actor. Oh

518
00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:54.319
were they? I didn't even know that really. Wow, Well,

519
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:56.920
then he's pretty. He's pretty brilliant.

520
00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:59.000
Really, because he didn't look good as his twin brother

521
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:03.119
at all, that seems okay. Well, I enjoyed looking at him.

522
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:05.559
I certainly didn't enjoy looking at anything else. I'm not

523
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:09.319
one for blood spilling ridiculously. I mean even you know,

524
00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:13.200
if you compare this to the shock horror of the

525
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:18.039
Demi Moor movie and the substance, I mean, I don't

526
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:20.440
like blood and gore at the best of times, and

527
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:22.440
I had to cover my eyes a couple of times

528
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:23.640
during that movie.

529
00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:26.640
But the blood made sense in that movie.

530
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.000
Here it was just blood for blood's sake, gore just

531
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:32.359
to be titillating and.

532
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:34.400
For shock value. Was it hilarious?

533
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:36.880
And I didn't think so, not one little bit. But

534
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:40.559
everybody dies in That's Life. Yeah, that's true.

535
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.119
I didn't need this movie to paint me that picture,

536
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:45.119
I suppose.

537
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.039
And it also goes to the heart of arguments that

538
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.319
have been around now for quite a number of years

539
00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:55.200
about the propensity of movies in general to depict violence

540
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.519
in such a way that anybody who's in any way

541
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.960
left of center or gets motivated by something like this

542
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.200
canternity into real life. I mean, that's a very it's

543
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.519
a very difficult judgment because I like you. I mean,

544
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:13.000
I don't like guns, I don't like violence, I don't

545
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:15.759
like explosions, and don't I don't know whether you, Greg

546
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:16.160
or Peter.

547
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:18.160
I wouldn't imagine either of you do either.

548
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.119
So I mean, is it in real life but on

549
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:22.240
the screen or don't mind them?

550
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:24.200
Well, that's it, That's what I was getting at. So

551
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:27.839
you can differentiate. But if somebody goes along to a cinema,

552
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:30.519
and you know, we've had incidents where people shoot up

553
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.440
cinemas and people die, and you know, they get the

554
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.519
wrong ideas. You know, do violent movies, TV shows plays?

555
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.039
You know, do they motivate them? I suppose that's the

556
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:44.240
discussion I'm triggering now, Greg, is that not a concern?

557
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:47.799
But ne Cisco's all the way back to Clockwork, Orange

558
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:50.880
and so many other films. I do they do films

559
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:55.039
cause bad behavior? Or are they triggers for people who

560
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:57.119
already have that in their system?

561
00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:57.839
Yeah?

562
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:00.799
And look, I suppose that they're in my what Hollywood's

563
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:04.240
done in recent times. Okay, so now there's this diversity

564
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:07.920
whereby you've got to have a certain number of diverse

565
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.839
actors in virtually every movie. If I'm not mistaken, Now,

566
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.880
do they take measures with regards to violence and movies?

567
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.359
But I'm not aware that they've done anything in that regard.

568
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:20.880
They've just let the blood flow, so to speak.

569
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:23.599
Should they Well.

570
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:27.640
It's arguable, but I don't think that that film's cause

571
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:30.960
the sorts of things that you might be alluding to.

572
00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:35.519
Well, I don't know, And I mean, ultimately, surely there

573
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:37.359
would have been some research on this or if there

574
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:39.279
hasn't been There should be some research on this.

575
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:43.200
What's your view, sending, I.

576
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:45.240
Don't really have an opinion on that. Does it bring

577
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:47.839
out the worst of us the ones that enjoy it?

578
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:48.160
Yeah?

579
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:48.720
Probably?

580
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:50.880
I think you probably have to have a tendency or

581
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.559
yes for that sort of stuff.

582
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:55.079
I tend to agree with you there.

583
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:59.039
Yeah. There have been so many psychological studies about the

584
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:05.440
impact of images on individuals, and the jury remains out

585
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:09.880
because there is nothing definitive that says if you watch something,

586
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:15.160
you'll replicate it. It's only for people perhaps who have

587
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.759
something in their system, they have psychological disturbances and so on,

588
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.039
and are looking for a trigger. And that could be

589
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:22.839
a book, it could be a film, it could be

590
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:25.480
a theatrical production, could be anything.

591
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:27.680
A video down run the video.

592
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:29.880
Yes, that's good for example.

593
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:34.799
Okay, so let me extend this conversation briefly to deal

594
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.880
with the daily news. I know a number of people

595
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:41.000
of our age who are no longer watching the news

596
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:42.480
because it's too terrifying for them.

597
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:46.480
Now, again, that's that's real life.

598
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.359
The world is a shitty place, right It can be

599
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.680
a great place, but it's been pretty terrible for a

600
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:56.160
long time, and it's getting there. It's not a word terribler,

601
00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.880
you know, and so you know, and yet as shitty

602
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:05.039
as it is, not enough is being done to dampen

603
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:06.400
the negativity.

604
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.680
So are we feeding the beast? Peter? Is the question?

605
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:15.839
Well, are you talking about social control and about cinsshow.

606
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:19.960
I'm merely posing the question because clearly whatever we've been

607
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.640
doing violence in our own our own city, and you

608
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:25.559
know this is a podcast that comes out of Melbourne.

609
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:29.720
I mean violence in our own city, home invasions, burglaries,

610
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:34.680
god knows what else. Carjackings, youths running ride. It's far

611
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:36.160
worse than when we were born.

612
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:36.440
Peter.

613
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.440
Now there's also there's also eight media or twenty seven

614
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:43.319
twenty eight million people in Australian hour, so I get all.

615
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:48.599
But notwithstanding that, I mean we're talking in a week

616
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:53.039
where what you've had two senior cops stood down right

617
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:57.559
in terms of and law and order is a major

618
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:02.400
major issue. So you know, this is what films to

619
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:04.640
The bad part about movies is they transport you to

620
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:08.160
different places. And to me, it's not so much of

621
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:12.839
a jump to go from seeing violence in all its forms,

622
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:17.519
whether it's supposedly entertaining or not to real life and

623
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:19.920
what we have about is that's the reason I'm asking

624
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:20.640
the question, Peter.

625
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.960
Yeah, I mean I don't agree with the analysis that

626
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:27.440
you've made. And don't forget we've got media now, social

627
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:32.400
media and so much more that amplifies so much about

628
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:35.400
what we see and hear. And I mean you could

629
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:39.079
argue that in the going back twenty thirty forty years,

630
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:42.640
there was lots of violence around, but it wasn't reported

631
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:48.480
because media wasn't as obvious at that time. So look,

632
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.720
I don't think this is a valid argument. I think

633
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:57.960
the psychological studies clearly show that there is no direct

634
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:04.440
correspondence between queen relation viewing violent or correlation between viewing

635
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:11.400
violent and committing violence, because most of us have functions

636
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:13.000
that stop us from doing that.

637
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:14.760
It's interesting.

638
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:16.760
I'll go one stage further and then I'll move on.

639
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:20.800
But there are suggestions now that if somebody sees a

640
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:24.440
violent act, rather than stepping in and helping, they'll film it.

641
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:29.880
Now, what does that say about our societies? Anti, I think.

642
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.800
We're way too dependent on our phones and we view

643
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:35.320
everything through the lens of our phones.

644
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:36.599
It's interesting, though, you know.

645
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:42.039
As a former television reporter, and you would agree with

646
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:44.559
this to Alex that you could go into any situation

647
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:48.079
with a camera and you felt completely safe, you felt covered.

648
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:50.239
And I think that's the way people feel now with

649
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.679
their phones. That's the instant reaction. Whether it's violence that

650
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:57.679
you're witnessing, you automatically film it, whether it's a concert

651
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.920
that you go to, you automatically start film on your phone.

652
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:05.360
It's a level of protection somehow that distances us from

653
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:09.119
what is actually happening that we've all become so accustomed

654
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:11.280
to that it's a natural habit.

655
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:13.440
I'm not sure it's a very good one.

656
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:17.280
No, I look, unfortunately, I'm not sure whether you have

657
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:21.000
or not say any but I covered death, I covered bushfires,

658
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:24.400
I covered i'd seen dead people. It wasn't it wasn't

659
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.440
a nice experience. It stayed with me and as it should.

660
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:32.119
And so I think you're right Peter, that you know,

661
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:36.119
many people can differentially differentiate between one and the other.

662
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:40.519
But there've also been many instances where violent acts and

663
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:44.559
they've they've quized the people who have been prosecuted and

664
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:49.599
they admit that it's there's been triggers, triggers, you know,

665
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:54.480
for what they've done and seeing violence on screen apparently

666
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:56.400
is one of those triggers. So I don't I'm not

667
00:35:56.559 --> 00:36:00.400
questioning that the jury is out rather than it's a

668
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.960
quantifiable evidence, but I think it's an important point to

669
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.599
raise when you're seeing a brutal movie like this one, which,

670
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:08.199
after all, this is black humor.

671
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:09.360
That's that's the nature of it.

672
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:10.920
I'm not even sure we're allowed to say that you

673
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:14.679
use that those two terms together, but you get my my,

674
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:17.360
my gist by saying what I'm saying.

675
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:22.840
All right, let's let's move on to another movie, which.

676
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:23.599
A minute of score.

677
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:26.719
So this one else, I'm sorry, I haven't even scored. Okay,

678
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.360
let's let's do this. So I'll probably go high high

679
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:32.480
ball on this one compared to the rest of you.

680
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:36.400
So let's start with Let's start with you, Sandy three

681
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:38.239
three out of ten.

682
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:42.079
Okay, that's just because the production values that I thought

683
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:42.760
were quite good.

684
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:44.079
And how good looking he is?

685
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:49.239
See all right, he read it and that was something

686
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.400
like show do or something, because they would Pamela Anderson

687
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:55.039
looks you probably would have you pride us.

688
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:58.960
Yeah, idea, although she actually doesn't look that good, really, Greg,

689
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:00.840
does she? I mean, her bodies good but her face

690
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.159
is not really good at all. She's really bearing all

691
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:06.440
of her fifty seven years there. I mean, she ain't

692
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.840
the sex symbol that she once was. I mean this

693
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:12.280
guy I'm talking about here, he's you know, in his

694
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:15.719
thirties or maybe early forties, and he's definitely a bit

695
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:16.320
of I Candy.

696
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:19.000
But you know, I mean, you're a man of a

697
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:19.599
certain age.

698
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:21.599
So if you still see Pam Anderson as a bit

699
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.519
of I candy, I guess that's your preromative.

700
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:26.159
You're getting all hot and bothered again here, Sandy. This

701
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:28.480
is very good on what No, I'm not I think?

702
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:34.360
All right, well regardless, sorry Gregor, you were going to respond, no.

703
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:36.639
I said my bit. I'll pull me hear you now?

704
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:38.880
Very good?

705
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:41.159
All right, Well, well, don't put you in too much.

706
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:42.320
Give me a score for the monkey.

707
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.519
Oh I like a bit of a dilly pleasure. I'd

708
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:46.840
go for six to six.

709
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:47.920
And a half right now.

710
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:50.280
And it's m I rated ninety eight minutes ago, and Peter,

711
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:52.400
I'm scared to ask go for it.

712
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:56.199
This is this discussion is almost turning into the Vogue

713
00:37:56.239 --> 00:38:01.360
review of how people look on screen? Yes, using anyway, Now,

714
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:03.039
I give Monkey five out of ten.

715
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:06.480
Okay, so three, five, six and I'm high market seven.

716
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:09.559
I looked at it through the lens of the audience

717
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:13.800
that it's coveting, and in spite of everything that I've

718
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:17.920
said where I don't like violence, et cetera, if you

719
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:19.840
look at it as cartoon violence.

720
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:21.840
Perhaps perhaps that's the way to do it.

721
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.159
And I mean it's it's really an excuse to see

722
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:28.360
one more form of garrotting or killing or whatever, which

723
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:31.400
I must admit as a concept doesn't appeal to me.

724
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:34.639
But I see what they've done and why they've done

725
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:35.360
what they've done.

726
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:38.639
Let us move on to a movie.

727
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:42.119
Greg, you've been surprised by the couple of films we've

728
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:47.360
talked about thus far. Here's another one that I dare say, well,

729
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:50.239
you'll feel the same way about, and that's the latest

730
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:52.960
Bridget Jones movie. Did you, I mean, before I talk

731
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:56.440
in any detail about it, were you surprised at how

732
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:58.360
surprisingly good?

733
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:00.000
Or better? Thought?

734
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.800
When I went there, I had no expectations to watch, however,

735
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:05.679
because the fourth film in the series spent nine years

736
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:08.880
since the last one, and a couple.

737
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.760
Of Bridget Jones sequels were pretty ordinary, so I did

738
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:13.440
know what to expect. From this one, but I found

739
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:14.800
myself pleasantly surprised.

740
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:15.840
Yeah, I mean, were you?

741
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:18.639
I was surprised that they're going back to the Will again,

742
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:21.320
you know, like really they want to do it again?

743
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.079
You know, I understand what Tom Cruise and whatever I

744
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:27.519
have done with Top Gun and that Will. That worked

745
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:30.159
very well, even though it was it you, Peter who

746
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.159
didn't like Top Gun the sequel.

747
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.199
Correct. Yeah, is there anything you liked, Peter?

748
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:39.559
Sorry, there were plenty of films I've liked.

749
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:42.639
Okay, good, I'm very pleased to hear that.

750
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:47.039
Okay, so well, okay, well I'll start with that question

751
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:50.960
from you. Did you were you pleasantly surprised or not?

752
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:54.559
About Bridget Joe. I can always almost taste your answer.

753
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:56.400
Bridget Jones mad about the boy?

754
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:58.440
It's delicious.

755
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:03.360
No, I not surprised, of course.

756
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:03.559
Not.

757
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:03.920
No.

758
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:06.400
And Sandy, I want you to see this one and

759
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:09.159
see from a from a female perspective.

760
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:12.519
Have you seen any of the Bridget joneses. I've seen

761
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:14.559
enough to know that I didn't want to see this one,

762
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:18.440
and so we can have this one all to yourselves.

763
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:22.199
I'm really not interested, and from what I have heard

764
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:29.840
so far about it, Rene Zellwigger's acting prowess has depreciated

765
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:30.320
with her.

766
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:34.679
Us I can't mean I have some text won The

767
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:36.559
Oscar for Judy.

768
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.920
Was the first film since since Judy that she's done. Yeah,

769
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:43.079
and I think she does what she does, that's a

770
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:46.199
joy Laiden movie. There's Bridge Jones mad about the Boy.

771
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:48.800
It's long, it's probably longer than it needed to be

772
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:53.039
at two out five minutes, it's m rated, and as

773
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:55.360
far as I'm concerned, pardon.

774
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:58.599
Me, it could be equal to the best Bridge Jones film.

775
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:01.039
I mean it dates back to what two thousand and one,

776
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:03.079
wasn't it Greg that it started something like that?

777
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:03.840
Yeah?

778
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.599
Yeah, and I mean Jones also narrates, as you know,

779
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:10.599
that's what she does, and it's filled with laughter and

780
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:13.639
romance and reverence. And best of all, she gets to

781
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:15.559
be a cougar Sandy, right.

782
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:18.239
Who means something that I can relate to?

783
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:23.599
No, no, no, there's no implication. All you'd need to do,

784
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:26.239
Sandy snap your fingers. The boys had gun running, Let's

785
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:30.840
be honest. Come on, you know of all ages sizes, yeah, anyway,

786
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:34.360
and all chaking. Aside that there's sort of this toy

787
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.039
boy hot to try, so you could have seen this

788
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:37.719
movie just for the toy boy Sandy.

789
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:39.280
Yeah, thanks, I know.

790
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:41.760
Okay, So let me tell you a little bit about

791
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:44.599
the story. Her husband, the love of her life. I'm

792
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:48.000
talking about Bridget Jones. Mark Darcy, played by a Colin Firth,

793
00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:52.760
is no longer. He was killed in an explosion while

794
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:56.320
on a humanitarian mission in Dart for four years earlier.

795
00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:59.239
So Bridget was left as a widow a couple of.

796
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.119
Small children torn and she still dreams of him, misses

797
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:04.920
him terribly, as do the children, a ten year old

798
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:07.760
son called Billy and a daughter Mabel, who was six,

799
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.519
and her life is rather chaotic. She hasn't moved on.

800
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:16.360
Most of her friends tell us she desperately needs a shag.

801
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:20.199
So one day she decides to try to take control

802
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:23.559
of her own future, and with a choice description, one

803
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:26.760
of her besties even signs her up to a dating app.

804
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:29.920
But it's while trying to rescue her children from the

805
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:33.239
branches of a large tree in a park that fortune

806
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.400
really smiles upon her, and that's when she and they

807
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:40.360
are rescued by a handsome groundkeeper. He's a grandkeeper in

808
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:43.920
his late twenties whose name happens to be Roster macduff.

809
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:49.119
Now, is Rockster a real name? Roxtr? Can anybody? Yes? No?

810
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:53.559
Made up? Americ made up? Yeah?

811
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:57.519
Okay, so I don't know of anybody, clearly I'm not

812
00:42:57.559 --> 00:42:58.599
well read enough, Sandy.

813
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:01.000
But is there a real Rockster in real life? Somebody

814
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:04.239
is named Rockster? I don't know any do you? You

815
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.599
don't know anyone called that? But wait up for the

816
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:08.920
next generation of babies born, there may well be.

817
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:13.719
Okay, hang on, while we're talking now, folks, I'm Rockster

818
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:14.559
as a name.

819
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:18.599
I'm googling it. You know, no such thing as real

820
00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:19.440
names anymore.

821
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:22.519
It's not a commonly recognized name, but it does appear

822
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.079
as a surname, particularly in the UK.

823
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:25.960
That's it.

824
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:27.360
They've made it up.

825
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:31.159
Yeah, okay, well but hang on. Aren't all names made us?

826
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:34.000
Not all? No, I don't think so. Well, I guess

827
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:34.800
eventually they.

828
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:38.239
Are, because I mean, before names were, somebody had to

829
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:40.679
name things and they made them up.

830
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:45.360
The name of the future. Well, yeah, I actually don't

831
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:45.719
mind it.

832
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:48.519
The interesting thing about it, and it doesn't matter whether

833
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:50.719
I mind it or not. But the interesting thing is,

834
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:54.039
of late, in the last decade or so, the x's

835
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:56.599
in names have become quite common, haven't they. Andy, there's

836
00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:58.559
a lot of x's in names.

837
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:01.920
That it used to be a c K. That's true.

838
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:03.800
Ah yeah, there you go, so Gregory.

839
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:07.000
I'm not sure he'd put an X into greg but

840
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:08.039
I'm sure they'd find a way.

841
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:14.800
It could be a silent ex grex. Grits.

842
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.480
It's kind of the grits that somebody has in America

843
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:20.440
and their cereal. Anyway, getting back to the movie, You've

844
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:25.360
got this handsome ground keeper late twenties that texts Bridget Jones,

845
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:28.119
and suddenly everything's looking up, including the fact that she's

846
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:29.639
actually reclaimed.

847
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:29.920
Her old job.

848
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:33.320
If you remember she was a television producer. She hadn't

849
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:36.519
been working, according to this movie, for a period of years.

850
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:38.960
Also in the picture, and he does what he does

851
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:43.039
so damn well is Jones's male Powell former lover, the

852
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:47.760
lascivious Daniel Cleaver played by none other than Hugh Grant,

853
00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:51.400
who is just killing him at the moment. I mean,

854
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:54.559
whatever he does seems to turn to gold. And that's

855
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:56.679
not to overlook a new science teacher at the school

856
00:44:56.679 --> 00:44:59.599
that Billy and Mabel attend, whose name is Scott Wallaker

857
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:01.320
by Chiwetel Edgy four.

858
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:05.079
He's got a distinct way of rounding up children. Would

859
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:06.840
you would you countenance that?

860
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:12.960
Greg in no right, whistle's only any good for pa classes.

861
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:14.159
Pe classes.

862
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.679
Okay, does it work on dogs and small children at home?

863
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:21.480
I don't know anyway, that's what he does now. Helen

864
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:24.840
Fielding who wrote the book Bridge Jones's Diary, which was

865
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:27.960
the starting point for the film franchise. She also has

866
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.079
a big hand in writing all the film scripts, of course,

867
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:32.599
and also back on the writer's desk is Dan Maser,

868
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:36.960
who co wrote Bridge Jones's Baby. And then there's Abbie Morgan.

869
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:41.800
I'm getting music again. Who's Who's music.

870
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:43.400
Playing in a background here? Now?

871
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:46.639
Collectively they have done what I think is a terrific job.

872
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:48.480
Many of the site gags, the one line is a

873
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.480
price lesson. Each Bridget Jones film has a different director.

874
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.360
This time it's Michael Morris, who takes to the task

875
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:58.679
with relish and injects a great deal of feeling. I

876
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.840
thought the cast was in fine for what a formidable

877
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:03.719
group of actors they are. Jones never takes herself too

878
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:06.960
seriously and it's primarily upbeat, and I thought Renees Elwiger

879
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:10.400
was delightful and assured as the film centerpiece, like putting

880
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.880
on an old dressing gown, and we've said, well, Hugh

881
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:17.480
Grant really in his element is the gleefully inappropriate Daniel

882
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:20.880
Kleaver and Leo wood All does and says all the

883
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:24.039
right things as Roxt McDuff and chewettl Edgy Fall is

884
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:27.440
intelligent and responsible as mister Walliker, and he sort of

885
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.360
eases up as the movie. He goes on a couple

886
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:33.199
of the really great roles in this one. Emma Thompson,

887
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:37.840
wow flawless as Jones's friend and guynecologist. And Eila Fisher

888
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:41.039
our very own make sure she's noticed as a harried

889
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:44.159
mother next door neighbor to Bridget Jones. Quite a memorable

890
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:46.760
cameo from her and honored goes. I mean, you know,

891
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:49.880
there's a lot brought back here from the past movies,

892
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:53.599
So many juicy parts in this offering. One thing sure,

893
00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:56.599
One thing is for sure, rather mad about the boy

894
00:46:56.880 --> 00:47:00.960
outshone my expectations. I was worried about the dipping back

895
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:03.199
into it again, but I needed the threat it because

896
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:05.960
truth be told, I really enjoyed myself. The movie hangs

897
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:08.559
together really beautifully and puts a big smile on your face.

898
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:09.960
Who could ask for more?

899
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.679
Greg King? Not a lot more?

900
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:16.519
Yeah, I thought, As I said at the start, I

901
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.559
wasn't expecting much from this fourth in Storman, but I

902
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:21.679
was pleasantly surprised by the film. I' mu sure we

903
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:25.599
astue gan to soeld with this committed performance as Bridget Jones,

904
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:28.719
who experienced as many awkward, embarrassing incidents in the film,

905
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.360
which is part part of the ongoing charm of a

906
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:35.920
film there. Now this is this also repeat some of

907
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:37.920
the beeks from the first film there where she's got

908
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.519
to make a choice between two potential suitors there, the

909
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:44.880
hunky rockster and the straight laced mister Wallaker there.

910
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:48.960
But I thought she threw herself.

911
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:54.440
Into this role, was comfortably with all the character flaws

912
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:58.320
and idiosyncrasies there. And there's plenty of physical comedy and

913
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:02.199
lots of prapfalls which she does well snappy one miners

914
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:05.440
and sit gigs, but also deal with more serious serious

915
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:08.719
scenes like overcoming grief, family and the trials of single

916
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:11.639
parenthood there. So it added a bit more heft to

917
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:15.280
the material there, And there's an element of sadness permeating

918
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:18.159
early segments of this film when she's dealing with the

919
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:21.679
loss of mister Darcy. There also an ara of nostalgia

920
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:24.280
there with the casting of bringing back all all the

921
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:27.880
main characters from the other Bridget Jones films with cameos

922
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:32.360
from people like Jim Broadbent. I loved Emma Thompson is

923
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:35.440
the guy in the college just there, and I agree

924
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:37.079
Hugh Rant is one of the best things in the

925
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.599
film there he gets some of the biggest last year,

926
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:43.079
and no one plays a lectures reprobate.

927
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:43.599
Quite like he does.

928
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:48.559
No. I totally agree, Peter, was there any redeeming feature

929
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:50.480
for you?

930
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:50.760
Look?

931
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:55.199
I liked Emma Thompson. I liked some humorous bits in

932
00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:58.440
the film. I like the depiction of the two children,

933
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:05.079
who I thought were really nicely portrayed, helping Bridget through

934
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:09.320
her grief to some extent. But I felt that it's

935
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:12.440
the Bridget Jones character the ways depicted in this film

936
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:16.039
that was a problem for me. She comes across as childlike,

937
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:22.440
as regressive, and as silly at times, and I don't

938
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.440
know if that's the way the character should be depicted.

939
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:28.079
I thought it would be a little bit more adult

940
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:30.760
and a bit more mature and because of that.

941
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:33.199
But I mean, go back, go back to two thousand

942
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:36.159
and one, that's her. Do people change character? I mean,

943
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:38.800
she was an adult in the first installment as well.

944
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:41.760
Right twenty years ago, she'd be what fifty ish now,

945
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:43.440
I presume that that's the sort.

946
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:47.199
Of correct Well when it was first depicted, it was

947
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:51.599
right for her character. But she has experienced grief, She's

948
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:55.239
experienced a lot of things over the twenty plus years

949
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:58.360
over the four films now, and I would have thought

950
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:02.559
that the character would also have grown up, developed and

951
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.119
been and become more interesting. So when the other characters

952
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:10.159
in the film, like you, Grant and everyone else, becomes

953
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:15.239
more amusing and valid and interesting, then you know you're

954
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:18.719
in trouble with the central character. And Bridget Jon.

955
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:20.480
Let me just interrupt there for a moment.

956
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:24.800
I mean, unfortunately, I've got a really good friend of mine,

957
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:28.440
and she's gone through quite a bit in recent times,

958
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:33.000
and but a really buoyant sort of personality. Now, you know,

959
00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:35.840
I've known her for a long long time, and even

960
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:42.760
through the downtimes, she has maintained the same persona which

961
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:46.400
I admire so much. And so I mean, I think

962
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:49.000
I think this is I'm afraid that I think this

963
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:52.280
is real, even though it's an imagined character. I get that,

964
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.559
but I actually thought it was, you know, pinpoint accurate,

965
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:57.320
and I thought it was appropriate.

966
00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:59.280
So I've got a totally different view of that. Keep

967
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:00.000
it keep going over.

968
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:03.199
Yeah, okay, I'll disagree with you because I felt that

969
00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:06.440
the depiction of the character was regressive, and that's the

970
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:09.199
problem that I have with it. Look, there are some

971
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:12.480
little nice bits here and there, and the idea of

972
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:17.440
her sorting out which of the two suitors, so to speak,

973
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:20.960
are going to be her love interest, which probably will

974
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:25.159
create another Bridget Jones film, But I was waiting for

975
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:27.760
a diary and there's hardly one in sight.

976
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:29.199
I would have liked.

977
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:32.199
That's the word diary out of the title the time,

978
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:36.559
That's right, And I thought, yeah, I don't know. Look,

979
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:41.639
the film is not bad, but it's certainly not the great, humorous,

980
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:46.199
brilliant sort of fourth version of Bridget Jones that perhaps

981
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:47.840
some people are saying it is.

982
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:50.840
There's certainly better than Bidick Jones edged reason.

983
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:56.079
Yeah, well, okay, so Peter, you've seen all of them.

984
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:59.719
I'm presuming, yes, where would this one sit of the

985
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:01.599
four second best?

986
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:04.599
No? I put it as number four. I think the

987
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:08.039
first one was the best one, the second one was

988
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:12.480
not bad, and the third one had its moments here

989
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:15.639
and there. But the fourth one I think has reached

990
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:17.079
a lower level for me.

991
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:20.079
Now, I don't think this is going to influence you

992
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:25.480
in any way, Sandy, but somebody who I know, who

993
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:30.400
I don't know very well, but who basically reads reviews

994
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:32.320
or reads various reviews.

995
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:35.280
And I recommended this to her sent me.

996
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.320
A short text because she wasn't going to see this movie,

997
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:42.480
right like you're not going to see the movie, And

998
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:45.519
she said this is what I'm reading this out without

999
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:49.480
naming her. Saw Bridget Jones today and loved it with

1000
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:50.639
love hearts all over it.

1001
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:51.920
So there you go, Peta.

1002
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.360
There are people who you know we've got an influence here,

1003
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:58.360
and I don't want you to turn everybody off Bridge

1004
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:00.519
Jones mad about a boy. I'm going to start this

1005
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:03.280
one rated M one hundred and twenty five minutes.

1006
00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:06.079
I'm giving it an eight out of ten, Greg.

1007
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:07.239
Six out of ten.

1008
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:11.280
Pisa, are you passing it? Yes?

1009
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:14.480
But I didn't realize that we had to promote films

1010
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:17.079
and always give a good review. I thought we were

1011
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:22.320
meant to give our own opinions rather than being pushed

1012
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:22.960
into something.

1013
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:25.320
So I don't always promote him.

1014
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:29.960
I couldn't get more honest about my opinions on exactly enough.

1015
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:37.360
And cars have reckoned pinions, steering too. Now, what's that?

1016
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:41.159
It's old style, that's all I can say. No, no,

1017
00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:42.039
excuse me.

1018
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:45.719
There are movies I I suppose I enjoy.

1019
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:49.400
No, I won't say enjoy when you're writing a negative

1020
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:51.800
review or speaking about something in a negative way.

1021
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:55.000
I don't love everything. There's there are.

1022
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:59.599
My worst movies of the year are appalling, right, So,

1023
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:05.840
but I suppose at times maybe I'm more charitable or

1024
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:08.920
I look at the audience instead of say okay, well,

1025
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:11.719
I can see merit in that from that their perspective.

1026
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:15.360
That's kind of the only different difference of opinion that

1027
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:17.159
you and I. Well, no, we have a lot of

1028
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:19.960
difference as of opinion. You don't support any football team,

1029
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:22.840
in particular Essendon. I haven't mentioned Essendon for a while,

1030
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:24.400
but did you want to talk about the Bombers?

1031
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:27.760
I give Bridget Jones five out of ten.

1032
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:35.440
Well, Gully all right, it is the UK's biggest film franchise.

1033
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:38.760
I have to say, well, I had the biggest box

1034
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:41.519
office opening of any romantic coming in Britain.

1035
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:46.599
Yeah, is that right? Yep? How's it done in Australia.

1036
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:49.559
I haven't really followed it. Is there any data?

1037
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:53.039
I don't know, but that's all I heard on your

1038
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:54.199
news on the weekend.

1039
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:57.039
I thought James Bond would be the bit, the biggest

1040
00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:58.199
British franchise.

1041
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:00.920
Yeah, that's what I would have thought too. And by

1042
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:03.159
the way, this week they've sold it, haven't they.

1043
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:06.960
They're not say Amazon, yes, yes, of it.

1044
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:08.840
I think that I was.

1045
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:12.239
I was pretty staggered by that too. I mean that

1046
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:15.800
they retain fifty percent. Barbara Broccoley and Broccoli is that

1047
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:16.360
her name?

1048
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:16.760
Yes?

1049
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:20.119
And who's the other one? I've gone blank, there's two

1050
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:24.000
of them. I apologize, We've got to go. I've just realized, Sandy,

1051
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:27.760
what a pleasure, Peter. It's an ordeal, but it's a

1052
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:32.039
pleasure one.

1053
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:35.280
Saying I love you, Peter, don't no, we love you, Peter,

1054
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:38.400
we do. Sticks and stones will break my bones. We

1055
00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:40.880
love you. And Greg we love you too. You know this?

1056
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:43.519
Thank you? This is a love Phil Can you feel

1057
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:44.559
the love in the room?

1058
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:44.880
Oh?

1059
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:48.639
Yeah? On that? And Sandy, your gorgeous you know, as

1060
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:50.559
I've loved, love all around.

1061
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:54.039
Speak to you next week, Folks. First, on film and entertainment,

1062
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:55.599
over and out,