Aug. 26, 2026

EP 145: Wildfires

EP 145: Wildfires
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Season 13

The SE Crew is back from the road—and things are heating up. As wildfires tear through Bigfoot country, reports of strange encounters continue to surface. Are these disasters driving Sasquatch closer to civilization… or forcing them deeper into hiding? Tonight, we follow the smoke and search for answers—on Sasquatch Experience.

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911, what are you reporting? We got someone or something

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crawling around out here.

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Did you see what it was?

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Was it a person or an animal?

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I can't tell.

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All I know is that my sensor light came on

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and I just happened to glance and see this thing

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running across the yard. A good-sized man or something that

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looks like a man. I don't know what it was.

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Back in 2005, we set out with one goal, to

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give voice to the mystery and those who pursue it.

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Sasquatch Experience Podcast has been your go-to source for serious

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Bigfoot discussions. where we separate fact from folklore, always grounded

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in research and respect. We've interviewed eyewitnesses, experts, and skeptic alike,

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because understanding Bigfoot isn't just about belief. It's about the journey.

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Nearly two decades later, we're still chasing shadows and sharing stories.

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The search never stopped. Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience.

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Jesus Christ, you better.

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Sheriff?

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See ya!

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Hello? Get somebody out here.

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And folks, we apologize for the delay tonight as we

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had an unusual situation there with the audio. I know myself,

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Matt Arner, Henry are here, Baker's there. But whether we

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can hear him or not, I don't know. He can

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still wave and pantomime and everything else he'd like to do. But, well, easy.

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I don't know what that was. And hopefully nobody else

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did either. Folks, I'm Sean, the Fork Shop Forker. I'm

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your host here on the Sasquatch Experience. And tonight we've

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got a great show for us. We're going to be

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talking about Bigfoot and wildfires. And quite the point of

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topic right now with, as we've all kind of dealt

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with these in one form or another, Baker. Rather, you're

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getting the smoke from the wildfires coming through your state

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Providence locale. I think the air quality is diminished for

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quite a few of us there for a little while,

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but it seems to have started to clear up a

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little bit. But interesting topic nonetheless. But before we get started, guys, one,

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how the hell are you doing? It's great to see

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you all this week.

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No.

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Blay.

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Go ahead, Henry. How are you doing, buddy?

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I'm good. Like I said, I can't complain.

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We can. We don't care, but you can complain. Henry,

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our 20th year of Sasquatch experience, by the way.

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20 years.

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20 years.

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Can you believe we've been together that long?

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Actually, we've been together longer. Yeah.

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We're like a married couple.

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Right.

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Baker's got the snaps, I guess. All right. I was

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testing the mic.

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I'm good.

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Oh, there we go.

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The Canadians took my voice when they added the smoke.

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Blame Canada.

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We've gone back to the blog talk radio days a

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little bit with the technical issues tonight. You know, everybody's

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using a different streaming platform and we've stayed here. We

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were stream yards and we moved to stream labs and

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I don't know if it's any better, but nonetheless, I

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think we were able to get it started. And of course,

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we have our good listeners in the chat. Folks, we

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always depend on you to tell us how we're doing.

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We got our producer, Brian Corbett, hanging around. One of

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our number one super fans, Jay Charlotte. Good to see

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Jay here. And of course, Mr. Scott Dieterle, our man

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of the hour, man of the power, always supporting us

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no matter what we do, where we go. He's there

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in the mix letting us know how we're doing. And

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we appreciate each and every one of our supporters greatly.

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And I'm being told to pump up the jams. Pump

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it up. Pump it up. There we go. All right.

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And Matt, man, I know it's been a day for you, buddy.

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How you doing?

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I'm doing good. I'm doing good. It was a rough

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day at work, but we got through it. And, you know,

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just looking forward and... I left for work today. I

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had the heat on in my truck.

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In the 60s here.

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When I left this morning.

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Wow.

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Yeah, it was beautiful. And you know what?

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When that weather starts to cool, there's all sorts of

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animals that are on the move.

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Yes, sir.

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And this is when we generally start getting good reports

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between August through November.

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Right.

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Right.

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Now is the time, and I'm pretty much all set

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to do some backcountry exploring this fall.

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Well, you know, Matt, like I said, we've had no

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shortage of reports since the Central PA Bigfoot Conference, our festivals.

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At least a dozen reports have come in. And we

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had one of the newest members of what I'm calling

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the Sasquatch Experience Research Team, Brianna, who was kind of

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keeping us abreast of that sighting report that came in

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for the gentleman we're calling Randall, she actually went on

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site and did an investigation. And I'll tell you guys,

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we're going to have a full workup on that probably

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next week to the listeners. What we're trying to do

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on days where we're opposite having a show, Mondays we're opposite,

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we're going to put in one of the sightings we've

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investigated and kind of get some of the information out

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there to kind of keep you guys engaged and titillated

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with what's going on here at the Sasquatch Experience. Because

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keep in mind, We're not just a podcast. We're an

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investigation service. And we go out there and we take

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all these claims seriously. And we go out and provide

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it with excellent, you know, just top notch investigations. We're skilled.

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We have people we network. So if we can't get

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out there in a timely fashion, be rest assured, whoever

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we're going to pass you off to is going to

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be a qualified person. We feel that someone's going to

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take your report and be able to treat it with

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as much seriousness as we would.

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So.

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They have our stamp of approval, hence the Sasquatch Experience

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Research Team. And I'll be glad to get a workup.

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Brianna said I had full permission to post it. And Matt,

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you and I will work on that as we continue

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to work on our book, A Loose and Proof, coming

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to you soon at some point.

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All right.

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I'm done talking there for a minute. Go ahead, Matt.

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Finish off where you were. It got cool. And then

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I went on. Yeah.

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So now, like I said, the reports are coming in. Uh, we're,

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it's not just prints or, uh, howls or, you know,

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your typical class B, but, uh, it was exciting to

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actually hear from a class A sighting that, that literally

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just occurred. Not only that, but going back to our

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small town monsters, uh, production of investigation Bigfoot, that was

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probably within 10 miles. of where the cabin was where

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we were staying at. And unfortunately I had to leave

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the night before, but, uh, or the day of when

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you guys had all that, um, uh, you know, all those, uh, uh,

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things going on. But, uh, it really, you know, if

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you're looking at it on, on a, on a face value,

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you have, you know, us going out there last fall, having,

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you know, some sort of experiences out there. Then you have,

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you know, now in August, you have a Class A sighting.

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During the Marionville Forest County Bigfoot Festival, just a number

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of locals came up to us and were telling us about,

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you know, the Class B encounters that they're having. We

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do try to rule out a lot with the howls.

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Is it an owl?

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Is it a coyote? Now we've got to deal with

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fisher cats here in Pennsylvania. Yes, sir. Could it be

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one of those three? Which fox? Fox make that female

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screaming sound. What does a fox sound?

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There it is.

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There it is. But we go through and.

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And out of these reports that we get, I'd probably

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say that there's about 15%, 15% to 20% that we

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just can't say for sure. We can't say that it's

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this or that or a coyote, an owl. And those

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are the ones that are unexplained. And then when you

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have other encounters, whether it's somebody seeing a print We

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had a lot of people come up to us and

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tell us about they had heard noises, they heard the footfalls,

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but then they had that odor that hit them. So

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the odor is definitely something that is enticing as well

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when it comes to the research for data. So we're

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putting all that together. We have some great people that

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we're working with. you know, we have, um, uh, you know, the, uh,

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the data, um, a person from Georgia, we have Mondo, um,

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and a few others that are, are putting all this,

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data together to try to come up with some sort of, uh,

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you know, uh, some sort of, I can't say it's conclusive, but,

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but just something there that, that we could say, okay, when, uh,

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during August, uh, during this moon phase, during this weather pattern, uh,

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you know, this is more likely to appear. And speaking

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of which, too, I was talking with the guys from

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Study Sasquatch. Great, great guys. And Chris Spencer, in one

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of his videos, had put out a really interesting hypothesis

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about vocalizations, wood knocks. And he said, look at the

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moon phase. And he thinks that when it's dark, when

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the moon is in a new moon phase and it's

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dark out, that these creatures probably are closer together when

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they're on the hunt. When it's a full moon, when

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it's a waxing crescent, waning crescent, and that light is

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out there, that's when they're getting vocalizations, wood knocks and such.

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And he believes that it may be from them being

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more spread out, you know, because of the illumination factor.

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That's something I've always hypothesized too, Matt, is that, you know,

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I think the allure of a full moon makes everything

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spooky and exciting and whatnot. But I don't think it

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makes sense for an animal that depends on the cover

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of darkness to move to be so... Correct. active during

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a full moon uh and then if you look at

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the time of year like specifically you and i have

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always said how our area is incredibly active from the

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end of august through fall partner that with moon cycles

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and what do you see when do we see the

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most activity so that's what we're looking at and the

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more and more we feed to mondo you know our

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data guy the more and more he's able to uh

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really put it together. And I told you at the

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last festival we were at there and, uh, and, uh,

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Sealand's Grove, Susquehanna Valley Mall, Gwen's event, uh, Gwen Purcell, uh,

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he put that data out there for the public. And

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I was like a kid in a candy shop. Like

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I couldn't get enough of that. I had to keep

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stopping myself from interjecting in his presentation because I was

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just absolutely enthralled by what the data was showing that

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not what our Gut was, and not what our, you know,

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any of those things. I was excited by what the

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data was showing that he pulled out from the witness reports. Now,

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we know there's always room for error with data, right?

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You know, because it's witness reports. It's not infallible. That

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being said, still pretty good with what we've got. Bake,

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you were going to say something, and then we'll jump

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back to you.

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One, I wanted to say that that was a really

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good conference we had at the Susquehanna Mall. I liked

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a lot of the speakers. Never let Mondo give you

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a Mexican strawberry.

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Just going to put it out there.

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Brian, you're forgiven, by the way.

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One thing I would say is we also are looking

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at the opposite of the data. Everybody's looking at this

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data proves this exists, this data proves this exists. But

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also when you look at some of the data that

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they've collected, you can also say that it can't be

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a bear or it can't be a deer or it

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can't be a muskrat or it can't be something else.

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The data isn't just 100% proving it has to be

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a cryptid. It's proving that we don't know what it is,

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but we definitely know it's not a woolly mammoth. I

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know it's an extreme to say it, but if you

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think about it, the data they've been collecting, it's the

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same data that I collect when I'm up at my

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land or me and Forker go out for a stroll

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or something like that. We get, okay, we heard a noise. Okay, well,

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it can't be this, can't be this, can't be this.

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And that's the data you also need. We had a

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gentleman that came with his parents and he wanted to

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become a cryptozoologist. I said, first of all, no. Go

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outside and suck in nature. You know, go do some hikes,

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some other stuff. I said, get an idea what nature

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is before you think you saw something. Because that'll help

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you realize whether you saw something or your friends are

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too stupid to realize it's a skunk coming your way.

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And there's a story to that. Yeah, we have firsthand

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account of that one.

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You know, the guy who couldn't watch, the guy who

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fell in the hole could modify, could tell that that

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was not a bear or an elk or a Bigfoot

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coming at us, but a small animal.

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Wasn't sure it was a skunk, but knew damn well

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it wasn't a bear. So, I mean, this data that.

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They're collecting is not only just proof there's something odd

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out there, it disproves other things it could have been.

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I guess that's my on that. No, very good. Very good.

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We do have a full episode here, though. We may

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actually have to create a part two for it because

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it's almost 20 after nine already. We'd be doing the

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bullhorn advancements here. Vance is on assignment tonight, by the way.

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Just a note, though, upcoming on September 12th, myself, James Baker,

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and potentially Matt Arner will be in attendance at the

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Bigfoot and Bluegrass Festival in White Deer, Pennsylvania. I'll be speaking,

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but if those two are there, they'll also be with me.

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So you get a, uh, you get a, uh, at

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least a twofer or a threefer for your money folks.

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It's always a good time when we present together. We're,

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we're very interactive. It's, it's a great time.

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Usually there's wine taste.

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There's a much better.

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What's that Matt?

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There's a much better chance that I will be attending.

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Oh, very good. That'll be exciting. Cause we mentioned whiskey.

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Uh, I know, I know.

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This is the first one you've missed at the Central PA. And,

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you know, but unfortunately.

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And I'm bummed out.

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I know.

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We were bummed out, too. But I really, I just

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sent my chair flying backwards because I really wanted you

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to see Mondo's presentation. It was amazing. I had a

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lot of fun at that. And anybody who was in attendance,

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I think, likewise, enjoyed that part. Thunderbird.

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I won an archery contest up in Elk County, so

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I had to go up and get my $ 500 gift certificate. Money! Yeah,

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two cellular game cameras, an elk target for archery, and

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an elk dartboard, which was actually pretty neat.

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An elk target? Is it like full size?

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Does it got the horns?

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No, it's actually a third the size. It does have

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the horns. James, I will get a picture for you

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tomorrow and send it in our group chat.

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A third-sized elk is still like, what, a deer target almost?

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It's a little bit bigger than a deer target? Yeah.

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Those things aren't cheap.

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It's the size of a deer.

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No, they're not.

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Those things aren't cheap, though. Wow, that's a good job.

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That's better than what I got for my 20 years

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at work.

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And listen, guys, whenever we go somewhere as a team

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and Baker and Matt either enter the contest or they raffle,

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one of them always wins. Sometimes between the two of them,

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they win almost everything. Oh, yes.

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And there's anger.

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Yeah.

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There it is.

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We're like, did Baker play? And I'm like, hey, man,

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I played.

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Last week, a week and a half, and it was

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really sad to me. Henry's announced his retirement from touring.

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He's not going to be doing conferences anymore. Is that right, Henry?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

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Well, I mean, Henry, you've been doing them for how long?

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Like 20, 25 years you've been going to these?

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18 years. I went to 18 events. That's pretty, that's

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pretty round number.

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That's a pretty, that's a pretty rough number. And, uh, Well,

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we're going to miss you at these Henry, but we

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are going to get the cardboard cut out of you

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there so people can still get their pictures taken.

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I just want to interject.

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Go ahead.

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I do want to interject that there was somebody that

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was asking about speakers for a national Bigfoot conference and

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everyone's up there promoting themselves or promoting this person, that person.

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And I, I put up there, I said, listen, I said,

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if you're going to do a National Bigfoot Conference, you'd

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need one of what I consider the big three in

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Bigfoot historians. And that would be, number one, Todd Prescott.

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Number two, Daniel Perez. And number three, our own Henry May.

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And so hopefully they get a hold of you. So

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if they offer this, come out to the National Conference.

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Come out for that one. I think those are the

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big three, I think, in the Bigfoot world today is Henry, Daniel,

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and Todd.

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No, Matt doesn't whore me out, Baker, because he ends

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up going along with me. So it's not like we

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always give people the bang for their buck out of us. But,

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you know, Matt, you and Les were.

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I don't even get paid. I don't even get a billing.

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No, and you don't know pay attention to verbal cues

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either Matt and Les were featured on Eric Mental Investigates

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Bigfoot Jim Thorpe that's out now posted on our Sasquatch

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experience page go check it out I think you'll enjoy

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it Matt tell us a little bit about filming that

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experience how was that.

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Well I wasn't too happy about it because I The

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whole reason I was supposed to be there was to

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talk about the encounter that literally happened a quarter of

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a mile from where we were taping.

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And you know what?

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We got into this gentleman from Jim Thorpe who had

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a Class A sighting last August. Here we go in

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August again. And it was so similar to one of

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the reports that we got up in Luzerne County. which

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wasn't that far away. It's, and it's part of the Lehigh, uh,

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waterway system. And as the guys told me, I, I,

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the hair was standing on the back of my, my neck.

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Cause I, it was so similar to that experience.

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So I ended up talking about that and completely forgetting

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about the incident where the girl was washing dishes. And, uh,

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she looks out the back window and there's a gorilla

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staring at her. And then when she, uh, went to

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tell her parents, uh, Uh, everyone ran out and there

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was two big imprints, uh, in the, uh, mulch that

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was up by the, uh, or the kitchen window and

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the kitchen window is about six and a half feet

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up from the ground. So obviously it was something pretty big. And, uh,

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you know, that was the encounter I wanted to talk

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about and I totally forgot, but otherwise, Les did an

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awesome job.

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Yeah.

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Les did an awesome job, uh, uh, telling you about

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his encounters. We had, again, this gentleman who was riding

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on the Lehigh Trail between Whitehaven and Jim Thorpe, where

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he saw this creature. And that was a great experience.

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So it was. It was fantastic. But man, I wish

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I would have been able to Uh, tell that encounter

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about that, about that young lady that had seen the

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gorilla face. Yeah.

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Well, you know what though? And it happens when we

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get involved in these things and you know it because

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it happens to us on the reg. We're in there.

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We're going to talk about something else like tonight's show.

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And we ended up talking about something more that's pressing

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on our minds.

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Right.

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And, uh, even happened when we were filming a little bit, uh,

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when we were doing the investigation, Bigfoot deal, uh, uh,

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I mean, it's just part of it. You get into

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a good conversation, you get into a good rhythm, and

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then everything else goes out the window. But while we're

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talking about Small Town Monsters, there's a slight segue. August 30th,

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something that if you're a fan of Bigfoot, everybody needs

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to pay attention to. Go to Small Town Monsters on YouTube.

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Science and Sasquatch, the legacy of Jeff Meldrum. will be

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airing at 2 p.m. on Monday, August 30th. It's a

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Small Town Monsters special. I'm looking forward to that. We

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love our friends over at Small Town Monsters. Yeah, we

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have a little bit of bias, but they've always treated

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us well, but they always put out a top-notch production,

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and I think it would be nice to have something

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special done for Doc Meldrum. I mean, we were going

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to sponsor Dr. Meldrum at the Bigfoot camping adventure weekend.

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That didn't get to happen. That was a big pile

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of suck, as Baker would say. Very tragic for us.

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We didn't get that time. We did get Ron Moorhead,

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and it didn't turn into a weekend at Bernie's thing,

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so we were all right with that.

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Any weekend with Moorhead's better. But go tune in August 30th.

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2 p.m., Small Town Monsters, Vines and Sasquatch, A Legacy

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of Dr. Jeff Meldrum. Of course, all these things will

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be posted on the Sasquatch Experience Facebook page. We do

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have a new website, SasquatchExperience.com. I took us off getting

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that up. It's a much better website for you guys

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to go and navigate to. And if you're so inclined,

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just as easy to go and become a member for

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$ 2 a month via our Patreon, which we're going to

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have a lot of our research stuff starting to post

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over there. I know we promised, promised, promised to bring

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you more content, but we have so much going on

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behind the scenes. I think you folks will be happy.

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The new website's just the beginning. A lot of stuff

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going on behind the scenes.

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Oh, I hear the train.

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I hear the train a-coming.

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There we go. It's a little late tonight. little league

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world series in full effect here in williamsport pennsylvania james

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baker and i are uh dealing with that uh just

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just a small inconvenience in our lives to bring so

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much joy to uh the world with little league being

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here in our own backyards but now let's get in

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the the crux of things i can't talk tonight the

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crux i i quit somebody else want to take over

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here uh You know, a central question I have for

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you guys when we get started into this, do you

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think these wildfires are pushing Bigfoot out of hiding? If

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Sasquatch is a flesh and blood animal in North America,

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what happens when thousands or millions of its acres are burning?

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Where do they go? Do they go closer together? Do

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they go further into the woods? What say you? Let's

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get some questions and some dialogue going on this.

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Go ahead, James. Well, it's a good question.

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Go ahead, Henry.

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We may not get the answer to it.

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Well, what do you think? Over all the years, Henry,

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you've done this. You've collected the stories, read the stories.

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What do you think? Why do we not get more sightings,

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or why do you think something hasn't been proven, given

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the nature of all these wildfires?

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Hmm. Hmm.

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Henry, you want me to take a crack at it?

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I don't know. You got it. Well, do it. Yeah,

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go ahead. Go ahead, babe. Okay.

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So my opinion on a lot of this is, and

464
00:26:28.049 --> 00:26:30.230
I've always had the two, I'm of the two schools

465
00:26:30.269 --> 00:26:30.970
of thought either.

466
00:26:31.990 --> 00:26:32.809
It's not real.

467
00:26:32.930 --> 00:26:38.069
And we've been, we've been, you know, hypothesizing or it's

468
00:26:38.190 --> 00:26:41.349
real and it's highly intelligent. I mean, the two, you know,

469
00:26:41.369 --> 00:26:43.950
have to kind of go together a little bit. I

470
00:26:43.990 --> 00:26:47.119
think the big thing with these wildfires and everything is...

471
00:26:47.420 --> 00:26:49.960
And I don't know if I have the name right,

472
00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:52.220
but I think it's Rene DeHinden.

473
00:26:53.740 --> 00:26:55.599
Was the one who studied the bears?

474
00:26:56.779 --> 00:26:58.009
No. No.

475
00:26:58.380 --> 00:26:59.630
Okay, Forker knows names.

476
00:26:59.710 --> 00:27:00.930
I know facts.

477
00:27:01.490 --> 00:27:02.190
Okay.

478
00:27:03.190 --> 00:27:05.349
So, he'll tell us in a minute when he's done

479
00:27:06.210 --> 00:27:07.630
pulling on whatever he's got over there.

480
00:27:08.349 --> 00:27:10.109
So, they.

481
00:27:10.750 --> 00:27:14.690
This person always looked at how do bears interact with

482
00:27:15.609 --> 00:27:20.740
their environment during certain times, certain moon cycles, certain things.

483
00:27:20.900 --> 00:27:22.259
John Mayanzinski was who you're looking at.

484
00:27:22.259 --> 00:27:24.720
John Mayanzinski. Thank you. Okay.

485
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:29.359
But they looked at an animal that they could trustfully

486
00:27:29.460 --> 00:27:33.410
see and had things that were exact. Like a lot

487
00:27:33.430 --> 00:27:35.230
of the people look at the great apes and they

488
00:27:35.250 --> 00:27:38.230
go and they use that as a base. in the

489
00:27:38.289 --> 00:27:41.970
Pacific Northwest and, you know, the Dakotas and all that.

490
00:27:42.390 --> 00:27:44.990
And then the woods, you know, Pennsylvania woods, they look

491
00:27:45.009 --> 00:27:48.730
at the bears because it's a large enough animal and

492
00:27:49.250 --> 00:27:51.450
it would be affected by the same thing that a

493
00:27:51.509 --> 00:27:56.019
larger animal that was a carnivore slash herbivore would be

494
00:27:56.710 --> 00:28:01.700
affected by. So what you would look at is these California, Oregon,

495
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:06.119
Canada wildfires. Even if the fire doesn't directly do it,

496
00:28:07.009 --> 00:28:10.430
I live in Pennsylvania and the fire was in Canada.

497
00:28:11.170 --> 00:28:14.630
And I still got some process during for like a week.

498
00:28:15.009 --> 00:28:17.569
So anybody that was in like North or South Dakota

499
00:28:17.589 --> 00:28:21.470
or Chicago, you know, Illinois, Chicago, all those places were

500
00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:26.559
choking for like a month. So these animals have, you know,

501
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.640
if the animal is there, it has to be affected.

502
00:28:29.660 --> 00:28:32.579
And it's got to be, you know, finding places where

503
00:28:32.619 --> 00:28:36.660
it's clearer. I would think with the way smoke works

504
00:28:36.740 --> 00:28:41.349
and things like that, they would go to lower elevations.

505
00:28:42.769 --> 00:28:46.430
They would be closer to things that would block the wind.

506
00:28:48.269 --> 00:28:51.349
But again, if you look at a bear, you could

507
00:28:51.410 --> 00:28:53.490
see what their movements are and then you.

508
00:28:53.369 --> 00:28:57.490
Might be able to track. Because we're all one big guessers.

509
00:28:57.869 --> 00:28:59.319
That was the one thing I tried to point out

510
00:28:59.339 --> 00:29:02.099
to the gentleman that wanted to be a cryptozoologist. I said,

511
00:29:02.470 --> 00:29:04.170
A big portion of what we do is walking around

512
00:29:04.190 --> 00:29:07.670
the woods and guess, you know. So, I mean, I

513
00:29:08.089 --> 00:29:11.150
would say study bears in those local areas, see what

514
00:29:11.190 --> 00:29:12.829
they're doing. That might give you an idea of what's

515
00:29:12.869 --> 00:29:15.869
going on. All right, Henry, I'm sorry I cut you off.

516
00:29:15.910 --> 00:29:16.589
It's your turn again.

517
00:29:16.609 --> 00:29:23.019
No, no, no. I couldn't put a bear myself, babe.

518
00:29:26.500 --> 00:29:27.880
Matt, what say you, sir?

519
00:29:31.730 --> 00:29:35.160
I mean, I have a lot of things to say about,

520
00:29:35.180 --> 00:29:39.369
you know, with the wildfires first, it's not like people

521
00:29:39.450 --> 00:29:43.009
and we haven't emergency exit, you know, where you see

522
00:29:43.069 --> 00:29:45.279
all the deer coming out and all the elk coming

523
00:29:45.390 --> 00:29:49.119
out and all the bear coming out. They're scattered and

524
00:29:49.500 --> 00:29:54.140
they're scattering into the areas that aren't under the threat

525
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:59.529
of wildfire. And with that, unless you had somebody encircling the,

526
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:04.559
every 20 yards around a radius of a wildfire, you're

527
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.359
not going to see every animal that comes out of it.

528
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:14.529
So there's also ways that some animals will burrow to

529
00:30:14.589 --> 00:30:19.069
escape the wildfire. Again, you're getting very high temperatures, but

530
00:30:19.930 --> 00:30:23.930
in some of the wildfires, it's just burning off vegetation

531
00:30:23.970 --> 00:30:27.400
and wood, and it's not burning into the soil as

532
00:30:27.579 --> 00:30:32.400
much as it would maybe with like the California wildfires

533
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:38.099
in Malibu where they were just, you know, just super

534
00:30:38.140 --> 00:30:44.190
high temperature numbers going into that. So they do, you know,

535
00:30:44.230 --> 00:30:47.250
they're going to escape. Animals are going to find their

536
00:30:47.289 --> 00:30:50.750
way to survive. The wildfires have been going on since

537
00:30:50.809 --> 00:30:57.250
we've had oxygen and everything else going here. So, animals

538
00:30:57.369 --> 00:31:02.589
know how to keep themselves alive during these times.

539
00:31:02.609 --> 00:31:07.029
We do have a question there from our panel. What

540
00:31:07.069 --> 00:31:09.589
do they do with animal carcasses that get burned up

541
00:31:09.849 --> 00:31:10.789
in wildfires?

542
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:23.400
What do the state do? Well, I would think they

543
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:27.619
would probably have some kind of machines that go through

544
00:31:27.650 --> 00:31:30.759
the grind up the trees and grind up everything and

545
00:31:30.819 --> 00:31:32.839
kind of almost like you'd be almost.

546
00:31:32.660 --> 00:31:35.299
Like a mass grave, you know, where you grind it

547
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:36.099
into the ground.

548
00:31:36.660 --> 00:31:39.700
Well, here in Pennsylvania, you know, they pick up roadkill

549
00:31:39.779 --> 00:31:44.779
and they have, I don't know what you call them. Uh, body.

550
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:45.380
Yeah.

551
00:31:45.420 --> 00:31:49.779
Body piles that they throw these carcasses in or as, uh,

552
00:31:50.019 --> 00:31:55.259
uncle Z likes to put it lunch. Um, uh, But

553
00:31:55.339 --> 00:31:57.819
they do, at least in Pennsylvania, they do collect the

554
00:31:57.859 --> 00:32:02.079
dead animals and dispose of them in large pits or

555
00:32:02.140 --> 00:32:05.799
what have you. In fact, we've had reports in Pennsylvania

556
00:32:05.980 --> 00:32:11.970
of these locations being visited by Sasquatch. So it's very

557
00:32:12.029 --> 00:32:16.529
interesting to think that. Well, and, you know, Brian, you

558
00:32:16.549 --> 00:32:18.829
kind of set me up to segue into one of

559
00:32:18.890 --> 00:32:23.619
my favorite encounters that Whenever I think of wildfires or,

560
00:32:23.819 --> 00:32:26.529
you know, big fires, and Henry, you'll probably relate right

561
00:32:26.549 --> 00:32:27.029
about that.

562
00:32:27.049 --> 00:32:27.950
Yeah, there was going.

563
00:32:28.470 --> 00:32:29.150
You do? Yeah.

564
00:32:29.609 --> 00:32:31.650
And you probably saw me pick up the book, The Locals,

565
00:32:32.490 --> 00:32:34.750
by Tom Powell. This has a great story in it.

566
00:32:34.750 --> 00:32:40.690
Tom Powell wrote this. And, of course, page 218, published

567
00:32:40.710 --> 00:32:46.990
by Hancock House. Let me just read the account. This

568
00:32:47.069 --> 00:32:50.160
compelling account was sent to the BFRO website on Sunday,

569
00:32:50.299 --> 00:32:54.880
August 8, 1999. Two days earlier, a complex of range

570
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:58.680
fires was started by lightning strikes as convective thunderstorms formed

571
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:03.450
in the hot, dry August air over Battle Mountain, Nevada.

572
00:33:04.069 --> 00:33:06.970
This area is a mining district riddled with abandoned mining

573
00:33:07.009 --> 00:33:10.470
tunnels and shafts. The juniper and scrubby sagebrush of the

574
00:33:10.509 --> 00:33:14.470
mountainous terrain around Battle Mountain exploded into several simultaneous range

575
00:33:14.529 --> 00:33:19.089
fires in what would eventually be known as the Battle

576
00:33:19.130 --> 00:33:22.630
Mountain Complex Fire. This is the report that the BFRO

577
00:33:22.670 --> 00:33:25.410
received before the fires even got large enough to make

578
00:33:25.470 --> 00:33:29.740
the news. This was 7 August 1999, Battle Mountain, Nevada.

579
00:33:31.099 --> 00:33:34.240
And the person writes, I observed an animal wounded by

580
00:33:34.339 --> 00:33:37.980
fire moving on all fours not like a bear, more

581
00:33:38.019 --> 00:33:42.759
like an ape. Firefighters captured animal, contacted local vet and

582
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:43.609
medical doctor.

583
00:33:45.430 --> 00:33:45.690
U.S.

584
00:33:45.730 --> 00:33:49.029
Department of Fish and Wildlife, Department of Interior, Bureau of

585
00:33:49.069 --> 00:33:53.170
Land Management on the scene. Animal tranquilized and moved to

586
00:33:53.250 --> 00:33:56.890
unknown location. Those at scene told not to talk about

587
00:33:56.930 --> 00:34:02.440
what they saw. Approximate animal 7.5 feet tall, long, Human-like

588
00:34:02.539 --> 00:34:05.009
arms and legs. Face not like man or ape, but

589
00:34:05.069 --> 00:34:07.170
mixed between. Genitalia.

590
00:34:07.410 --> 00:34:07.730
Male.

591
00:34:07.890 --> 00:34:09.369
Uncircumcised and human-like.

592
00:34:09.690 --> 00:34:09.969
Hair.

593
00:34:10.369 --> 00:34:13.269
Covering most of its body except chest. Chest has hair,

594
00:34:13.309 --> 00:34:17.110
but sparse. Hands with sparse hair. Palms bare with five

595
00:34:17.170 --> 00:34:19.789
digits with human opposition of thumb in fifth digit.

596
00:34:20.409 --> 00:34:20.829
Speech.

597
00:34:21.389 --> 00:34:24.329
Attempted to communicate with caregivers once it realized they were

598
00:34:24.369 --> 00:34:28.980
attempting to careful. Multiple burns to hands, feet, legs, and body.

599
00:34:29.409 --> 00:34:32.250
some second and third degree burns using rule of nines,

600
00:34:32.409 --> 00:34:36.590
approximate 45% of body with burns. Doctor and vet working

601
00:34:36.630 --> 00:34:40.469
together providing care and moved it to unknown location. This

602
00:34:40.570 --> 00:34:44.750
notice is given in violation of orders given by BLM, DOI,

603
00:34:44.929 --> 00:34:49.110
and DF & W. Witnesses numbered in the area of

604
00:34:49.110 --> 00:34:52.489
20 to 25. Word is out in the government agencies

605
00:34:52.570 --> 00:34:55.139
and among the firefighters since an MD was called out.

606
00:34:55.820 --> 00:35:00.250
Many thought a firefighter was injured. Please note that I

607
00:35:00.289 --> 00:35:03.130
am a government employee, one of the listed agencies fighting

608
00:35:03.170 --> 00:35:08.789
brush fire in Wilderness Area of Nevada. Large-scale fire, approximately 70,000 acres, burned.

609
00:35:09.409 --> 00:35:12.449
And under orders not to disclose information. I believe a

610
00:35:12.489 --> 00:35:15.219
cover-up is in the making. People need to know. The

611
00:35:15.300 --> 00:35:17.920
animal needs to be kept alive, studied, and released in

612
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:20.840
protected area. So that was kind of like it was

613
00:35:21.820 --> 00:35:27.000
given in a pretty matter-of-fact kind of manner.

614
00:35:27.019 --> 00:35:27.739
Right.

615
00:35:28.110 --> 00:35:31.010
Somebody who works in law enforcement, does that sound like

616
00:35:31.050 --> 00:35:33.329
a report that came from somebody in law enforcement with

617
00:35:33.349 --> 00:35:38.070
syntax and, and the way it was communicated out very staccato?

618
00:35:38.329 --> 00:35:44.349
You know, I mean, it sounds like it would be

619
00:35:44.909 --> 00:35:50.489
a report written by someone that's in the, you know,

620
00:35:50.590 --> 00:35:54.889
emergency management, you know, first responder program, but I don't,

621
00:35:55.630 --> 00:35:59.440
I don't know. You know, I've, There's so many stories about,

622
00:35:59.460 --> 00:36:02.420
you know, from Mount St. Helens, you know, some of

623
00:36:02.460 --> 00:36:08.670
these other wildfires. And, you know, I think at some

624
00:36:08.710 --> 00:36:12.630
point there would have been a body, something recovered and,

625
00:36:14.269 --> 00:36:17.590
you know, made public at this point.

626
00:36:18.750 --> 00:36:20.610
Baker, I heard at home, what's your reservations?

627
00:36:21.550 --> 00:36:25.340
I think Matt hits the biggest problem that we all have.

628
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:29.780
And we've had this discussion multiple times. It's nice to

629
00:36:29.820 --> 00:36:32.349
see that they mentioned it was a humanoid one, not

630
00:36:32.389 --> 00:36:35.329
a red rocket. But the other discussion we have a

631
00:36:35.369 --> 00:36:38.909
lot is, is that I don't ever think we're ever

632
00:36:38.989 --> 00:36:41.659
going to find a body by, there's not going to

633
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:45.139
be somebody hunting Bigfoot and he shoots it in the

634
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:46.119
woods or whatever.

635
00:36:46.300 --> 00:36:48.059
It's going to be Sally.

636
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:52.000
Aunt Sally had a few extra margaritas and she hit

637
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.519
something with her car and that didn't get her a

638
00:36:54.639 --> 00:37:00.710
homicide charge. And, and now she's a multimillionaire because in Texas,

639
00:37:00.789 --> 00:37:04.409
she's making money right left, you know? And, and I

640
00:37:04.449 --> 00:37:07.190
think that's how, if they find a body, that's going

641
00:37:07.210 --> 00:37:10.750
to happen. It's not going to be accidentally, or it's

642
00:37:10.769 --> 00:37:14.820
not going to be whatever, because. Well, that would be accidentally.

643
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:16.719
Well, I mean, it's not, sorry. It's not going to

644
00:37:16.739 --> 00:37:17.539
be purposely.

645
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:18.219
Gotcha.

646
00:37:18.260 --> 00:37:20.840
I don't think somebody walking out, you know, you know,

647
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:25.699
it's kind of like, um, I was reading something about dinosaurs,

648
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:30.900
and before the 1800s, they assessed that any bones they

649
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.800
found that might be dinosaur-ish were the fabled dragons and

650
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.199
some of the fabled creatures that were mentioned in the

651
00:37:37.300 --> 00:37:40.869
old books and stuff, until science said, no, no, no,

652
00:37:41.030 --> 00:37:46.670
that's a dinosaur. And the same with, like, we see

653
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:50.880
the great apes and some of the other ones is,

654
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.340
you know, We as human beings, you know, we weren't

655
00:37:54.389 --> 00:37:57.889
the only human type thing sharing the planet. We're just

656
00:37:57.949 --> 00:38:02.409
the ones that seem to flourish and survive better. You know,

657
00:38:03.769 --> 00:38:07.110
you look 200,000 years ago and they had the Cro-Magnon

658
00:38:07.139 --> 00:38:10.000
man and they had this man and, you know, this

659
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.579
different forms that we kind of all merged together to,

660
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.380
you know, the epitome of what we are now, you know.

661
00:38:15.940 --> 00:38:20.219
And I think that we either haven't found it right

662
00:38:20.610 --> 00:38:24.289
the bodies or like I said is that it's intelligent

663
00:38:24.309 --> 00:38:25.869
and it finds a way to get rid of them.

664
00:38:26.510 --> 00:38:28.849
You know just for the record James Baker is not

665
00:38:28.889 --> 00:38:34.750
a professional anthropologist so his human tree and the history of.

666
00:38:34.730 --> 00:38:37.900
You know that stupid little timeline that shows the little

667
00:38:37.940 --> 00:38:41.440
caveman and then shows the guy with the iPod.

668
00:38:41.260 --> 00:38:44.889
Yeah We're going backwards now, but whatever.

669
00:38:45.210 --> 00:38:47.289
And on behalf of the Sasquatch experience, we do want

670
00:38:47.309 --> 00:38:49.539
to apologize for all the Aunt Sallys out there that

671
00:38:49.579 --> 00:38:53.179
Baker just called alcoholics and may have committed vehicular homicide.

672
00:38:53.579 --> 00:38:56.179
You guys all have an Aunt Sally, and you're damn

673
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:57.199
well she's a drinker.

674
00:38:57.579 --> 00:38:59.739
All right. Yeah, I think mine's a Doris.

675
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:02.119
That's not nice. It's Ada.

676
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:05.969
And Ada. Anyhow. Enabling.

677
00:39:05.989 --> 00:39:06.489
Enabling.

678
00:39:07.349 --> 00:39:09.889
Listen, at the event over the weekend, it was my

679
00:39:09.929 --> 00:39:10.869
sister that was the drunk.

680
00:39:10.909 --> 00:39:11.329
Remember?

681
00:39:11.590 --> 00:39:15.059
She's never going to forgive me for that. Anyhow, but

682
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:18.059
this Battle Mountain, Nevada story, you know, we've talked about

683
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:21.900
this for some time. And what's interesting to me is

684
00:39:21.940 --> 00:39:24.280
it didn't seem like there was any kind of real

685
00:39:24.510 --> 00:39:27.409
hoopla about it. You know, we, you know, Henry, 1999,

686
00:39:27.409 --> 00:39:32.610
Internet was still consistent. of just getting its kicks going

687
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:34.880
with Bigfoot, right? There weren't a whole lot of websites

688
00:39:34.940 --> 00:39:38.440
around yet. And I don't know if Bigfoot forums was

689
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:42.539
even around quite yet at that time, but maybe the

690
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:47.659
Henry Franzoni's virtual Bigfoot conference would have been, would have

691
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:52.349
been around, but, You know, the fact Tom Powell got

692
00:39:52.389 --> 00:39:54.329
this story and the BFRO and that, you know, they

693
00:39:54.349 --> 00:39:57.670
took it seriously and went through it. I think some

694
00:39:57.710 --> 00:39:59.769
of the things that are interesting to me is the,

695
00:40:02.050 --> 00:40:04.530
how they treated it, you know, with an MD and

696
00:40:04.550 --> 00:40:09.179
a veterinarian. I mean, Matt, as somebody with long, would

697
00:40:09.570 --> 00:40:14.519
that sound like something that would be even possible or

698
00:40:14.659 --> 00:40:16.280
that they would, somebody would attempt?

699
00:40:19.130 --> 00:40:23.369
You know, so when we have wildfires or we don't

700
00:40:23.469 --> 00:40:27.750
have veterinarians like on call or anything like that, I mean,

701
00:40:27.769 --> 00:40:32.010
we're taking care of the humans. So if there are

702
00:40:32.789 --> 00:40:39.800
any people with veterinary experience, they're going to be almost

703
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:46.860
like first responders too. You know, just say if there's

704
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.809
a horse. that were a pack mule that was brought

705
00:40:50.969 --> 00:40:54.489
in and got an injury during one of these firefights.

706
00:40:55.969 --> 00:41:02.119
They would take that, do the first aid, and then

707
00:41:02.940 --> 00:41:06.500
remove it to an emergency animal hospital.

708
00:41:11.019 --> 00:41:12.760
As we go through and look at some more of

709
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:20.780
these stories, there's a Shaver Lake encounter in 2026 Fresno County. Man,

710
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:24.539
you know, I just got to ask you guys, you know,

711
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:26.739
and your personal thoughts on this, because I just don't

712
00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:29.349
want to spend the whole episode talking about Battle Mountain, Nevada, right?

713
00:41:29.369 --> 00:41:32.170
That was a very interesting story. Had some very interesting

714
00:41:32.210 --> 00:41:35.610
takeaways from it. It could also be fantasy, right? It's

715
00:41:35.769 --> 00:41:40.280
very detailed. And sometimes when you have something so detailed

716
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:42.960
like that, you wonder the veracity of it just because

717
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:43.820
it's so.

718
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:45.780
Clear.

719
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:48.809
It's clear and full of information. And, you know, I

720
00:41:48.849 --> 00:41:51.030
encourage everybody to pick up a copy of The Locals. Anyhow,

721
00:41:51.050 --> 00:41:53.789
it's probably my second favorite Bigfoot book next to John

722
00:41:53.809 --> 00:41:57.429
Green's The Apes Among Us. I do enjoy The Locals.

723
00:41:57.449 --> 00:42:00.630
There's some great stories in there. And pick it up.

724
00:42:00.929 --> 00:42:04.170
Go read it. Starts on page 218 moving forward. And

725
00:42:04.369 --> 00:42:06.090
we'd love to have your opinions on it. Post them

726
00:42:06.110 --> 00:42:07.670
on the show page so we can see what you're

727
00:42:07.690 --> 00:42:12.130
thinking about it. A little homework assignment for you tonight.

728
00:42:12.590 --> 00:42:13.150
Go ahead, Henry.

729
00:42:13.250 --> 00:42:13.730
Go ahead, Baker.

730
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:20.400
Matt, I have a question as a police officer. Sorry,

731
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:21.840
the echo is.

732
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:27.420
When you take statements and other things, is it easier

733
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:30.480
to lie when they have more facts or when they

734
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:33.199
generally just have no clue what went on and they

735
00:42:33.219 --> 00:42:34.199
don't really think?

736
00:42:35.500 --> 00:42:36.719
Do you know what I mean? The difference?

737
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:45.769
I know the difference. There's classes in statement analysis. that

738
00:42:45.809 --> 00:42:49.710
will answer that so i don't really want to give

739
00:42:49.750 --> 00:42:54.300
the answers out uh you know on the podcast but

740
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:58.139
there when you analyze the statement there are clues that

741
00:42:58.179 --> 00:43:03.659
we look for for someone that's embellishing versus someone that

742
00:43:03.780 --> 00:43:07.289
may have to think back to to what happened.

743
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.760
So it's just not vocal. It's also like words, music,

744
00:43:12.820 --> 00:43:15.599
and dance. That's how they say it. It's what they do.

745
00:43:15.980 --> 00:43:18.760
All right.

746
00:43:19.099 --> 00:43:24.019
Communication is only, what, 10% of actually talking. The rest

747
00:43:24.059 --> 00:43:26.030
of it is how we express it.

748
00:43:27.010 --> 00:43:33.550
Body language, as Ursula would say in The Little Mermaid. Dum, dum, dum, dum. Poor,

749
00:43:33.630 --> 00:43:35.630
unfortunate skull. Anyhow.

750
00:43:36.090 --> 00:43:37.250
She got done wrong.

751
00:43:37.550 --> 00:43:37.869
She did.

752
00:43:38.469 --> 00:43:42.869
Justice for Ursula hashtag. We anyhow. So back to.

753
00:43:42.849 --> 00:43:44.349
The big girls with tentacles.

754
00:43:45.349 --> 00:43:46.070
And there it is, folks.

755
00:43:46.110 --> 00:43:48.320
Good night. We'll see you next week.

756
00:43:48.820 --> 00:43:51.719
That's not the show I wanted to have. But when

757
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:54.260
we look at these sighting reports for, you know, and

758
00:43:54.579 --> 00:43:57.840
Jeremiah over on Bigfoot Society, he put out an infogram

759
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:02.219
the other day for folks to kind of report encounters

760
00:44:02.739 --> 00:44:05.440
that were happening in the. Let me see if I

761
00:44:05.460 --> 00:44:07.849
can at least. I'll pull it up here. I don't

762
00:44:07.869 --> 00:44:10.190
know if you guys all saw it or not. Our

763
00:44:10.210 --> 00:44:13.630
good friend Jeremiah over there from Bigfoot going through it.

764
00:44:14.550 --> 00:44:18.179
Of course, you know, pulling for him as always as

765
00:44:18.219 --> 00:44:22.519
he goes through his battle with cancer. Unfortunately, we just

766
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:26.340
send our love and support out for him. And it's

767
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.260
not just a stall because I can't pull it up.

768
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.679
But anyhow, he put up this great infographic, you know,

769
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.489
asking folks that if you are having or know of

770
00:44:34.570 --> 00:44:37.230
any experiences or sightings, please report them. And I think

771
00:44:37.309 --> 00:44:42.510
it's incredibly important that that happens because one of the

772
00:44:42.550 --> 00:44:48.989
things that I've had thought is that activity around natural

773
00:44:49.030 --> 00:44:53.800
disasters would pick up. And I don't know if there's

774
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:55.719
a true correlation to that or not. And I didn't

775
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:58.139
really think about it until Baker gave me this premise

776
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:00.780
yesterday when we were kind of beating around the bush

777
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:03.690
for a show topic. And he goes, well, how about

778
00:45:03.710 --> 00:45:09.690
the wildfires? And again, you know, my thought is, where

779
00:45:09.710 --> 00:45:12.989
are they going to go? Do they retreat into these

780
00:45:13.130 --> 00:45:16.449
tunnels and caves and mines? Or do they try to

781
00:45:17.130 --> 00:45:20.280
progress further and deeper into the woods? Or, you know,

782
00:45:20.300 --> 00:45:23.199
what happens? I don't have a good answer. You know,

783
00:45:23.260 --> 00:45:25.340
but then also keep in mind that if it's affecting

784
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:29.039
them and their homes, what's it doing to their food supply?

785
00:45:30.070 --> 00:45:30.309
Right.

786
00:45:30.329 --> 00:45:32.469
They have to adjust for that. So do they go

787
00:45:32.510 --> 00:45:34.679
into more scavenger mode? And then do you have more

788
00:45:34.739 --> 00:45:37.880
contact with people because Bigfoot's raiding my shed, you know,

789
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:41.460
or going after my chickens? You know, what's that look like?

790
00:45:50.349 --> 00:45:55.329
And I think we've seen that before in other disasters

791
00:45:55.449 --> 00:46:01.190
where animals will Sometimes if it's like, just say earthquake,

792
00:46:02.150 --> 00:46:07.570
animals sense the earthquakes before scientists do. I mean, you know,

793
00:46:07.590 --> 00:46:12.010
you hear about the birds, the mammals that leave an area,

794
00:46:12.409 --> 00:46:17.190
you know, in mass. And a day later, two days later,

795
00:46:17.230 --> 00:46:22.530
there's a massive earthquake. It would be similar to the wildfire.

796
00:46:22.550 --> 00:46:25.650
You know, there's going to be, you know, cues there,

797
00:46:25.670 --> 00:46:28.559
you know, whether the smell of the smoke. a change

798
00:46:28.619 --> 00:46:34.269
in temperature, wind direction, that's going to, you know, kind

799
00:46:34.329 --> 00:46:37.590
of be that, you know, early alarm system for these

800
00:46:37.690 --> 00:46:41.570
animals to go. Now, you have, you know, a large mammal,

801
00:46:43.300 --> 00:46:47.199
you know, whether it's a Bigfoot, a bear, that's going

802
00:46:47.219 --> 00:46:49.380
to be leaving the area. But what else is leaving

803
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:52.559
the area? You also have the prey. They're leaving there

804
00:46:52.579 --> 00:46:55.389
as well. You know, the deer, like I said, the mice.

805
00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:58.480
some of the, some of the other LA Pika rats

806
00:46:58.659 --> 00:47:01.320
and stuff, they're going to find places to, to burrow

807
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:04.570
down and, and, and wait it out. But some of

808
00:47:04.610 --> 00:47:09.429
the other, you know, general, uh, uh, birds that would

809
00:47:09.469 --> 00:47:11.730
be food are going to be going with them.

810
00:47:15.010 --> 00:47:17.929
No, I, and that's a great question. That's kind of

811
00:47:17.969 --> 00:47:20.690
called the prey displacement question there, Matt, is what you

812
00:47:20.710 --> 00:47:26.400
were just talking about. And that, uh, again, you start

813
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:29.579
taking away some of the food opportunities, you would think

814
00:47:29.699 --> 00:47:34.000
contact with people would increase. And, you know, I go

815
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.480
back to the 70s after the flood of, I believe,

816
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:41.420
Agnes up this way, there was an Amish person who

817
00:47:41.500 --> 00:47:45.280
reported a Bigfoot raiding their storeroom, you know, that their

818
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:48.179
root cellar on their back porch, I guess it was

819
00:47:48.219 --> 00:47:52.000
kind of a root cellar-esque type deal, looking for food.

820
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.659
And so when these you would think there would be

821
00:47:55.760 --> 00:48:00.250
more sightings that kick up. A question from Uncle Zen

822
00:48:00.289 --> 00:48:01.789
there in the chat, he goes, with all the game

823
00:48:01.829 --> 00:48:04.010
lands and such in Lycoming County, why do we not

824
00:48:04.050 --> 00:48:06.610
have very many sightings or people saying they see prints

825
00:48:06.670 --> 00:48:07.889
or smell something foul?

826
00:48:08.670 --> 00:48:09.250
Well, we do.

827
00:48:10.469 --> 00:48:13.010
The key is getting them to report them. And so

828
00:48:13.309 --> 00:48:15.909
it never fails that whenever we go and do one

829
00:48:15.949 --> 00:48:20.860
of these reports, what do you call them at town

830
00:48:20.929 --> 00:48:25.849
halls or festivals or conferences? Somebody comes in and provides

831
00:48:25.909 --> 00:48:27.730
us with some new information. Oh, Hey, have you ever

832
00:48:27.769 --> 00:48:30.610
been out to this area? Oh yeah, we have. We've

833
00:48:30.630 --> 00:48:33.489
been out there, you know, quite a few times. Um,

834
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:36.099
but it's just really, especially up here in this part

835
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:38.519
of the state, shaking off that stigma. We are a

836
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:43.519
very rural hunting, fishing community up these ways. People don't

837
00:48:43.539 --> 00:48:46.030
want to sully that with, uh, you know, what they

838
00:48:46.070 --> 00:48:47.699
perceive to be silliness, or they don't want to get

839
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:51.519
kicked out of their hunting or fishing lodge. Sometimes that

840
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:53.199
in itself is worth its weight. It's gold.

841
00:48:53.260 --> 00:48:55.780
Is it not? Oh yeah.

842
00:48:55.820 --> 00:48:57.539
That is true. That's life.

843
00:48:58.110 --> 00:48:59.630
You know, you don't want to get kicked out of that.

844
00:48:59.849 --> 00:49:01.409
And then you get that reputation.

845
00:49:01.510 --> 00:49:04.809
Oh, you use. Well, and again, case in point to

846
00:49:04.849 --> 00:49:07.929
that guy that we had that, uh, in 2016, he

847
00:49:07.969 --> 00:49:12.920
didn't want us to even, uh, wear anything with Bigfoot

848
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:14.900
on it or have anything in our vehicles. When we

849
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:16.840
were out there, we were just friends coming up to

850
00:49:16.889 --> 00:49:19.150
check out the hunting lodge. He didn't want any of.

851
00:49:19.190 --> 00:49:23.760
Us because he didn't want people to. He didn't want

852
00:49:23.780 --> 00:49:24.340
the promo.

853
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:26.420
No, he didn't. He didn't want that.

854
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:27.320
Right.

855
00:49:28.380 --> 00:49:33.190
Absolutely. I mean, that's the best way to say it. And,

856
00:49:33.610 --> 00:49:36.170
you know, and I think Steve posts, likewise, with all

857
00:49:36.190 --> 00:49:38.769
the work going on out past Barber State Game Lands. Now,

858
00:49:38.829 --> 00:49:41.309
out that way, there's been reports near the pheasant farm

859
00:49:42.250 --> 00:49:45.860
and up in the spring conservation camp out that way

860
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:50.820
where they were dumping stone. So there are sightings. It's

861
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:53.159
just getting folks to report them, one in a timely fashion,

862
00:49:53.179 --> 00:49:55.989
because a lot of times we get these reports. They

863
00:49:56.030 --> 00:49:57.449
happened 10, 15 years ago, not 10, 15 hours ago. Lately,

864
00:49:57.469 --> 00:50:04.119
however— We've had some really good reports that have come through.

865
00:50:04.139 --> 00:50:09.159
You know, stepping back into this, those are some really

866
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:14.440
good questions, guys. So thank you for those. Fire is

867
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:18.719
not always ecologically negative, right? Sometimes there's a purpose for

868
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:23.590
controlled burns. And, you know, I'm sure that probably weighs

869
00:50:23.650 --> 00:50:30.510
into this whole scenario as well. It also re-enriches the land.

870
00:50:30.829 --> 00:50:31.010
Yeah.

871
00:50:31.619 --> 00:50:36.760
As bad as it sounds, it does because the charcoal

872
00:50:36.820 --> 00:50:39.219
and the other stuff and a lot of the old

873
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:41.630
wood that was making it, that the new trees didn't

874
00:50:41.650 --> 00:50:45.530
get enough light and water, they're getting out of the way.

875
00:50:45.550 --> 00:50:50.050
You know, the animals that died, you know, the chemicals

876
00:50:50.110 --> 00:50:51.900
coming off of them and the bone.

877
00:50:51.659 --> 00:50:53.019
Meal and the blood meal.

878
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:53.480
Yeah.

879
00:50:53.500 --> 00:50:58.360
It makes the forest richer. Renutrizes it. Renutrizes it.

880
00:50:58.360 --> 00:50:58.579
Yeah.

881
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:02.199
Yeah. It gets its goodies back, and that's a very

882
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:07.980
important part of the ecological balance right there. But also,

883
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:12.059
how long does it take for these animals to come back?

884
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:14.489
Once it does burn, when will they start revisiting and

885
00:51:14.530 --> 00:51:18.010
coming to it? So could sightings drop in areas because

886
00:51:18.449 --> 00:51:22.269
of these situations? So Canada, rich in Bigfoot sightings, right?

887
00:51:22.329 --> 00:51:25.710
Depending on the Pacific Northwest, one of these major disasters happened.

888
00:51:26.420 --> 00:51:29.489
Do sightings drop off? And again, for our data-crunching nerd

889
00:51:29.530 --> 00:51:31.369
friends out there, that might be something to look at

890
00:51:31.389 --> 00:51:35.320
and to consider. I mean, there's a lot to this,

891
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:37.739
and we're about out of time already, and I know

892
00:51:37.780 --> 00:51:38.760
we started a little late.

893
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:39.599
But.

894
00:51:40.980 --> 00:51:49.750
Folks, again, does any of this equate to An influx

895
00:51:50.110 --> 00:51:52.989
or a decrease in sightings? We don't know. We just

896
00:51:53.010 --> 00:51:54.769
thought it'd be fun to talk about for a little bit.

897
00:51:54.869 --> 00:51:57.920
Check out the book, The Locals, by Tom Powell. Page

898
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:01.900
218 starts the Battle Mountain, Nevada story. It's one of

899
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:04.159
my favorite ones in the book to go check out.

900
00:52:06.550 --> 00:52:08.730
And again, we'll go around the horn. Any final thoughts

901
00:52:08.750 --> 00:52:10.329
from you gentlemen here before we wrap it up for

902
00:52:10.349 --> 00:52:16.989
the night? As we wrap it up for the night. Matt,

903
00:52:17.030 --> 00:52:18.789
we'll start with you. We'll go down around the horn here,

904
00:52:18.969 --> 00:52:19.780
at least in my horn.

905
00:52:20.739 --> 00:52:27.039
Yeah, no, I was going to say with the wildfires,

906
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.420
there are benefits. I know we had a wildfire up

907
00:52:31.460 --> 00:52:37.170
in Elk County that burned quite a few acres. And within,

908
00:52:37.190 --> 00:52:40.349
you know, a year and a half, the elk were

909
00:52:40.389 --> 00:52:44.190
just all over that place because there was minerals. Like

910
00:52:45.090 --> 00:52:48.550
what James had said, there was a chemical process that

911
00:52:48.590 --> 00:52:52.590
brought some minerals up that were actually, uh, very good

912
00:52:52.710 --> 00:52:57.320
for the elk, uh, the deer. And, uh, and in

913
00:52:57.380 --> 00:53:01.000
turn with them basically doing this natural, they're almost like

914
00:53:01.059 --> 00:53:04.340
natural farmers, you know, is sitting there with their hooves,

915
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:06.559
you know, going over the, all this burnt land. Well,

916
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:12.019
you know, they're, they're creating a new environment and new ecosystem,

917
00:53:12.539 --> 00:53:17.489
which was really good. So, um, Again, large animals, they

918
00:53:17.550 --> 00:53:20.889
seem to get out of the fire, and when they

919
00:53:20.929 --> 00:53:24.349
come back, they work hand-in-hand with nature to bring the

920
00:53:24.969 --> 00:53:25.550
forest back.

921
00:53:26.590 --> 00:53:28.860
Excellent. Henry, what say you?

922
00:53:34.460 --> 00:53:38.659
Well, we are fortunate enough not to have any forest

923
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:42.110
pyres close to us, but if we were to have

924
00:53:42.619 --> 00:53:48.130
a forest fire, it would be at the local wildlife refuge.

925
00:53:48.590 --> 00:53:50.510
If we were to have something like that, it would

926
00:53:50.530 --> 00:53:56.510
be pretty devastating. Because that's quite an ecosystem there that's

927
00:53:56.769 --> 00:53:57.610
in that area.

928
00:53:57.630 --> 00:54:03.800
Yeah, definitely an ebb and flow to the natural order

929
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:08.590
of things. But, you know, in the short term, the

930
00:54:08.630 --> 00:54:11.769
situation could be quite devastating. Baker, any final thoughts for you, buddy?

931
00:54:13.130 --> 00:54:16.170
Well, I think the big thing is that we've learned

932
00:54:16.309 --> 00:54:18.349
is that at the end of the day, we have

933
00:54:18.389 --> 00:54:20.699
to look at all existing evidence and see what it

934
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:21.889
is and what it's not.

935
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:25.219
And that we have to come in with a scientific.

936
00:54:24.699 --> 00:54:29.239
Mind, but a researcher's heart. And we keep doing that. Eventually,

937
00:54:29.260 --> 00:54:31.960
we're going to figure something out. I mean, there's got

938
00:54:31.980 --> 00:54:34.960
to be a plateau somewhere. I mean, the world's getting

939
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:39.650
smaller every day. you know, we talk about encroachment of

940
00:54:39.710 --> 00:54:43.889
us encroaching into, you know, other animals domain. Eventually there'll

941
00:54:43.909 --> 00:54:46.909
be a point where there's nowhere for something that big

942
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to hide, you know?

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Well, will we see it in our lifetime? I don't

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think so.

945
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I mean, I don't know. Yeah.

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We've got a lot of land to go.

947
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Yeah.

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Still, you know, as these ecological disasters happen and, you know,

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whether it's a controlled situation or just, you know, lightning

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strikes and then that burn baby burn, um, You know,

951
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I guess we have to hold and wait and see. Folks,

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you've been listening to the Sasquatch Experience. I'm Sean Forker.

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That's Matt Arner, James Baker down in the bottom corner,

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and Henry May in the center square. Henry, take us

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out with those dulcet tones.

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Y'all be good.

957
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Folks, we'll see you again in a couple weeks. And

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until then, keep on squatching. Check us out, SasquatchExperience.com. See

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you next time. You've been listening to the Sasquatch Experience.

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Please rate and review wherever this podcast is consumed. For

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more information, please go to our website, sasquatchexperience.com. Keep on squatchin'.

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Thank you.