EP 99: Bigfoot South

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And opinions. Good evening, folks, I'm sewn the fort chop forger.

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is advised. We got someone or
something growing around out here? Does a

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legend walk among us working in the
forests of our world? Did you see

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what it was? Was it a
person or an animal? Or I can't

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go? Oh, I know it's
that my thunder light came on and I

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did that with to glen and see
this thing running across the yard a good

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fight man or nothing. It looks
like a man. I don't know what

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it was. For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers,

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investigators, and witnesses trying to gain
insight and truth around the existence of this

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mysterious entity. Hello, get somebody
out here. What's going to announce there

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that's got a mention about I don't
know, easy announce Yes, I'm working

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right over, okay, hand on
her? Yeah, got you bigger.

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Okay, what's he doing in your
yard? We're gonna mar you join us

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as we continue into the investigation of
the Sasquatch Experience. Well, here we

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are, it's Monday night. It's
that time of the week again, Sasquatch

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Experience in Baker's squeaky chair. He's
James Baker. That's vance Nesbit, Henri

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May and our guests tonight from Bigfootsouth
dot com. The author of Bigfoot South,

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mister Chester Moore. Chester, thanks
for joining us tonight here in the

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show. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. Folks. Chester's

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not new to the bigfoot field.
He's been around for a long time,

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just like myself. We started off
as younger men with a little less gray

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and a little less facial hair.
But Chester's taken it to actually get into

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wildlife journalism and really made a career
out of all this. Aside from the

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cryptozoology part, Chester, You've really
turned this into a quite an adventure for

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yourself. Yeah. I started doing
this when I was nineteen. The wildlife

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journalism part meaning writing for back then
newspapers, but magazines, books, radio

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shows, podcast and doing lectures all
around the nation in the world. I

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love wildlife, fishing and hunting and
conservation, and the Bigfoot thing fits in

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the middle of that because it involves
the mysterious. And as a journalist,

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I mean that's kind of what we
like to do, is chase stories,

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and this is a pretty big one. Yeah. It's a pervasive story,

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that's for sure, one that has
not been solved, regardless of how many

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people say it's a hoax or it
doesn't exist chester, they just can't.

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As much as we can't prove it, they can't disprove it either. Yeah.

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I think that's the thing. I
heard it said one time that all

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it takes is one siding to be
real, one account to be real,

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for this to be a real phenomenon. And I'll always try to keep that

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in the back of my mind when
I listen to people tell them their stories,

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and you know, in your researching, I think it's just one that

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was real. This is still the
biggest wildlife story in the history of the

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world. Yeah, I think that's
a John Green quote. It probably is.

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I've read everything he ever wrote.
I mean, Sasqua Stads among Us

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is my is my basic guide to
the big Foot world. Still to this

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day, so well, it's the
book that got me hooked. I was

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nine when I read that book,
Chester, and it created a It just

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it put me in that space that, man, this is something I really

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need to pursue because you know,
as you even state in your book,

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at that point in time, we
just thought this was something that you know,

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existed in the Pacific Northwest, right. It didn't. It wasn't a

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nationwide or worldwide phenomena. The information
wasn't out there like it is today.

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And until I read his book and
I read the chapter Eastern Action and realized

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that settings were happening in my home
state of Pennsylvania, that really kind of

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wet the appetite for me to really
get going. So I started my field

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where, you know, research early
back when the Internet was in its infancy,

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there was the virtual Internet, Bigfoot
Conference, right, and places you

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could connect I guess a little bit
maybe not as safe as the Internet today.

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I don't want to say that,
but it was a different time.

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But the information just wasn't there like
it is today. And that's really changed.

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Yeah, for sure. The information
thing has gone into hyperspace. And

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I remember just thinking that, you
know, even like Grover Krantz when and

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I talk about this in my population
Dynamic chapter in Bigfoot South, he gave

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bigfoot population estimate by acreage and he
only mentioned you know, Oregon, California,

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Washington, and British Columbia. You
know, he mentioned the Pacific Northwest.

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And so when you think about that, you have guys who are like

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the you know, the apex guy
at the time. But for me,

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it was the legend of Boggy Creek
that turned me on to the idea.

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Because I'm a pretty smart little kid, and I'm looking at a map in

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falc Arkansas's round that corner of Texas
Louisiana, Arkansas, and I'm like,

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hey, if that thing's a bigfoot, why wouldn't there be one over here

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in the lone Star state. So
it always had it at the back of

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my mind they might be here,
But it took a while. It just

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seemed that Bigfoot was there and they
couldn't be here. If it was here,

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it might be something else. I
mean, that was kind of the

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early thought process, right, I
mean, it was kind of evolved into

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its own creature. You have the
skunk ape in Florida, right, was

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it a derivative of that and yeah, and I mean in your book also

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you have a chapter dedicated to Faro
apes Phara the primate population, which Baker,

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that's kind of what you've based a
lot of your sasquatch theory on.

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Right, so you address it is
a good book, folks, Bigfoot South

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dot com. You can pick up
a copy. I got mine a couple

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of weeks ago. It's a good
read. It's not volume miss, it's

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the perfect length chester for for the
for the reader. That's and I think

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that's important too. We can't all
be John Green's right and write and I

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don't want to be. I think
about poor John Green writing that book with

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the internet, all of the the
all the interviews, he had to either

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call someone or go to their house. And so my thing is to give

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it indigestible form that it's going to
entertain people and be fun to read.

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It's going to have a message of
you know, so maybe some unique things

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that a lot of people aren't talking
about, and then all so tie it

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into the love of nature that we
have, you know. So that was

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kind of my theory on doing the
book. So jes you, God,

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Sasquatch saved some among us? Was
there a personal encounter of yours that sparked

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your interest in sasquatch. Yeah,
you know, like I got into it

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and I was real little. I
mean, I'm fifty. So this was

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in the era of you know,
Sid and Mardy Croft, Bigfoot and wild

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Boy. This was in the era
of the Patterson Gimlin image being everywhere,

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and then the legend of Balky Creek. And my dad had a copy of

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the Argusy magazine that had the Patterson
Gimwin you know, picture on the cover

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and the whole expos on it.
And I remember seeing that and then the

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legend of Balgie Creek, and I
was so into it. But I had

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an encounter. That's it's the very
first part of the book that I didn't

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realize was most likely a big foot
creature until years later. But I'll connect

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to the dots for me. When
me and my dad were rabbit hunting and

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my aunt's property, it's legal to
hunt rabbits a night with little headlamp and

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texts, and we were down on
this creek bottom. I had my little

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seers in a single shot four ten
and Dad had a twelve gage. My

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aunt and uncle were walking on the
other side of the property. We would

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hunt and just split the property and
meet down on this creek bottom and kind

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of covered the whole property. And
this thing was letting out this sound that

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was unlike anything mean I you know, it was like ten or eleven.

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I never heard anything like that in
the water actually on television. It was

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bizarre. And I was like,
Dad, what is that? And I

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noticed everybody around me, who were
adults with bigger caliber weapons, were nervous.

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And that must be when the Uncle
Bill's bulls hung up in the fence.

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And I'm like, well, why
don't we go help it out?

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Now? We better get out of
here, you know. And this thing

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was going nuts. It was vile
sound, you know. So I kept

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bugging my dad and bugging my dad. He goes, well, you know,

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it might be a bear, because
bears the time were extirpated from this

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part of Texas, but Louisiana had
a remnant population on the border. I

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bought that until I was twenty years
old and started working with captive bears.

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Didn't sound remotely like a bear,
so I can I don't remember a lot

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of dates. If I remember August
the twentieth of two thousand and me and

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my dad and I got named Bobby
Hamilton, who founded the Gulf Coast Bigfoot

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Research Organization. I went with him
on an investigation and we checked out this

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place near Livingston, Texas, and
not a whole lot happened. We were

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sitting around a campfire basically listening with
you know, devices, listening that night,

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and we heard this really weird thing, a moan, really scary moan,

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actually, at about ten o'clock over
here, and then about midnight the

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moan is right here, and then
about two o'clock in the morning, it's

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over here, same kind of sound, but it was one of those things

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you like, I don't know,
it was kind of far off. Me

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and Dad had two hours to drive
home, Bobby an hour four o'clock.

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And when we're done and we get
pack all our crap in the truck,

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and the same sound me and dad
heard at my aunt's property came out of

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the bushes. And my dad looked, turns around and looks at me with

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his eyes like this and goes,
that's what we heard at Anne's property when

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you were little. And it went
crazy. And I had just been in

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Venezuela like eight months earlier, fishing
for peacock bass on a journalistic expedition and

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I had messed with a holler monkey. This was a very haller monkey esque

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sound, and this thing let out
whatever reason, I decided that this haler

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monkey was getting my nerves. It
wouldn't shut up, so I growled at

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it. I did one growl and
it started. It did one growl.

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I did two. It did too
well. This thing did the same exact

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thing I did one. It did
one. I did two. It did

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two, but on the second one
another one called out behind it grunt.

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So there were two animals. There
were two whatever these things were there.

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And then on the third it built
itself into a frenzy, and I mean

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a guttural, deep frenzy, and
at the very end was a long yell,

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and the yell had a growl but
like a scream in the middle of

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it. It was like both at
the same time and the closest thing I've

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ever heard to the most of the
sounds we heard that night were some of

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the Sierra sounds that Ron Moorehead recorded, not the talk stuff, but the

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guttural stuff. It gets overlooked that
sound like that, and it was intense,

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and that moment in my life.
I go, this is real,

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this is real, and I went
and spent two grand I didn't have on

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night vision the next morning. So
that was kind of what got me into

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doing the field research part of it, you know. And then then it

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was something I could not not look
at that had to be something different to

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experience sh you know, you know
the sounds that come out of the woods,

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really out of the area, and
to just be struck by a sound

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that you really can't identify, especially
with your background and you know, spending

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a great deal of your time in
the woods as a younger man. I

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guess even now as an adult,
it's still it still gets you. It

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still triggers that primal instinct of kind
of flight or fight of what's going on,

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Like I got to get to the
bottom of this, but it's scary

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as hell. It was really intense, and I'll never forget my dad going

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that's what we heard at hand.
So that connected dots through that told me

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there was a story. You know, it's two hours away from where we

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heard the other thing, but same
region, same habitat pine forest, mixed

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at hardwood bottoms, and there was
a pattern here. And then when the

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thing sounded kind of Howard monkey esque, and it responded the same way that

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a Howard Monkey did eight months earlier
in Venezuela. That told me, whatever's

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making that noise is a primate.
And so that really made me very much

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interested because a pattern had formed,
a couple of patterns had formed, and

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as a journalist, that's what I'm
always looking for it, So how you

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put a story together? So that
and plus just in the freaking intensity of

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it, you know, it was
like it was insane. You know,

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my dad was about my age now
and this is my age now when that

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happened, and you know, he
no, he might have been he might

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have been few years old. He's
about fifty five afty six when it happened,

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and I mean it freaked him out. You know, Like my dad

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loved this stuff, but like he's
gone now. But like if we were

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out doing research and we heard something, the campfire would get way big all

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of a suddenly. It was like, you know, it was He's the

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ultimate campfire builder. But it was
one of those things. And you say,

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it gives you a perspective when you
interview someone or talk with someone that's

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had something that's really intense happened.
It gives you that perspective to go,

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Okay, I get it, you
know, so let's just hear him out,

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you know, Chester from what I'm
getting from you, you know,

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there's two different categories in the Bigfoot
research. There's the WU and then there's

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the APIs. I'm putting you in
the APIs category, and I'm kind of

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assuming that's where you would go.
You know what, I'm gonna give the

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honest answer, I don't know,
I don't know. I think Okay,

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I don't know. I don't know. I think it flesh and blood real,

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I'll give you that much. And
it's a primate and it makes a

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whole lot more ape like stuff than
human. So it's probably probably probably where

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I would fall for sure. Yeah, but uh, you know, do

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I think there's something extra with these
It could be possible, but from what

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I experienced, very very ape like
primate like behavior that matches but not exactly

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like no primates. No, but
it's similar enough to make that correlation to

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go, yeah, it's reasonable to
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this type of activity. It's very
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similar activity, not exactly because each
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know. You know, there are
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similar behaviors, but they're a completely
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questions Before I go on, I
add a question for Chester as far as

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your position on killer or no kill? Are you still pro kill or you

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modify that bit? Well, I
figured this would come up, but I'll

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say this, there will not be
one proven until there's a dead body somewhere.

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I just don't see it scientifically possible. And the reason I say that

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is this isn't some subspecies of woodpecker
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that's a paradigm changer. So there
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or dead. Here's my position.
I no longer engage in any activity unless

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it will be self defense. And
there's a couple of reasons behind that.

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The first was self preservation. If
someone shoots one of these, and if

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you're listening, think about this,
your life may be over. I know

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people who've shot legal abundant game in
Africa and had problems with animal rights people

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think about this. So I just
decided it wasn't worth it for me and

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my family. And the chances of
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to require a body. I just
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understand that. I mean, we've
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think if the body's found, it's
either going to be accidentally sure as I

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accidentally found the body and then I
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I came back, or accidentally hit
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always believed that it's not going to
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minds it. It's going to be
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home, and she problem and she
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of the are and then yeah,
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I don't think it's gonna be.
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think some of our researchers are phenomenal. Sure, I don't think any of

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them are ever going to back Bigfoot. You know, I don't know it.

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scared, or a road kills probably
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you know, the chances of the
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almost nil, I think. But
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road killer or somebody shooting one or
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know, something raiding someone's chicken coop
and they just shoot a bunch of lab

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a bunch of shells back there and
go the next morning there's a dead bigfoot

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laying there, and what do I
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that kind of stuff, and so
yeah, probably so, But I still

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think it will require more than just
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there's gonna be a whole bony in
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because of what we're dealing with,
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I think it has to be a
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not talking federal, I'm talking you
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and state government discovery. If it's
a civilian discovery of a carcass of whatever

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sort, even if it's decayed for
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where most of the evidence will come
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get buried under a governmental umbrella of
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that's a really easy rabbit hole to
go into. What's happened with Putent I

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talk a little bit about my book
what potentially has happened with carcasses and things

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before. I think if someone does
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very short window to make it to
media in time before some and happens with

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that thing. You know. I
think there's a there's a there's but that's

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probably the most likely reason for I
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around the globe all the time,
and I don't think there are a lot

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of conspiracies to hide stuff. I
just think there is a narrative that anything

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that doesn't help us get grants and
make us money, or that might be

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controversial, or that might be controversial
to us and cause us heat, We're

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just don't We're just gonna ignore it. It's not there, you know.

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I've seen it with mountain lions and
other stuff, which is ridiculous because mounta

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lions are in native to much of
Tanada, all below forty eight and all

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the way down to Patagonia. I
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mountain lions east of you know,
I thirty five in Dallas, Texas,

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you know. But it's so if
that can be heat and controversy, come

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on, man, a you know, an eight foot tall primate that looks

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kind of like a dude. That's
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that. I feel attacked Chester and
being in wildlife journal? Has the Bigfoot

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and being attached to Bigfoot impacted any
of your professional endeavors? You know,

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It's a great question, because I
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beginning, you know. And I
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know, I don't preach the gospel
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it. But I haven't had any
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I mean, any less pay I'm
making just because the business I work in

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shrinking. But it's I've never lost
a job that I'm aware of because of

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it. I'm still doing what I
was doing. And I think some of

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it's because I'm a relatively sane,
rational guy talking about this stuff. I'm

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not talking, I'm not looking,
you know, talking about meeting the ghost

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of Richard Nixon and Elvis in a
UFO talking to Bigfoot. You know,

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I'm talking about what people are seeing, you know. But I did have

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a funny story about this. I've
only had a couple of people in my

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business bring it up. I've had
a lot of readers bringing up like I'll

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be at a sports show, a
fishing show, and I have a lot

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of people ask about it there.
And I had a few jackasses ask a

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couple of dumb questions. You know
that's expected. But I had a guy.

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Yeah, I had a guy walk
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man, it's a writer. We
have we found a bigfoot tracks out

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behind the hotel. If you want
to go get some plaster. And this

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is before I was walking with the
Lord. So I gave him some stone

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cold Steve often hand signatures in his
face literally and walked off. And the

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guy follows me into the elevator.
And I'm going to do what you want.

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I don't, you know. I
just I'm not someone who operates in

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dishonor I don't go even somebody I
like radically disagree with, I would never

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like go mess with him or dishonor
just the culture I've created for our family,

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you know. You know. He
gets in and he starts telling,

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I don't know about no big fields. I saw this weird thing in south

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Newton County, Texas. And I'm
like, where, because that's where I

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done most of my research. And
he knew he lived in Dallas, which

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is four and a half five hours
away. So he tells me a story

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of going to his buddy dearly is
an opening weekend in southern part of Newton

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County and coming across the sign that
says Nichols Creek and on the cover of

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Bigfoot South, there's this grayish looking
bigfoot in his little sign and says Nichols

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Creek. There's a reason for that. So I said, come on,

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keep talking, and he said,
we left about midnight to get there about

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five point thirty at camp and get
ready to go out and eat breakfast and

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get ready to go out to the
stands. And I just woken up and

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I'm in the passenger and I look
over and standing on the white line about

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to cross the road is this thing. It's about five and a half six

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feet tall, gray, and it
had haroll over except on its face,

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and the face kind of looked like
maybe like some kind of an ape human

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bok thing. I said, Hut
on a second, Bigfoot's funny and mockable

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to you, What the heck do
you think you saw? And I'll never

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forget the answer. It's the greatest
answer I may have ever gotten in my

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life. I thought it might have
been some kind of weird wolf, I

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said. I said, so,
we have bipedal wolves walking around, and

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that's cool, but Bigfoot's mockable.
Now. What I didn't him was I

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already had two other reports in front
of the same sign over a course of

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ten years by people. One of
them was before the internet, really was

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a factor of a gray colored bigfoot. And as I'm finishing Bigfoot South shameless

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plug bigfootsuth dot com, it's for
sale now, a lady sent me a

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message on Facebook, who lives in
Newton County thinks sir, and she wanted

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me to come check her property out. And at the end of her message,

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and when I was on a trip, I couldn't get to it.

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The very last message, do you
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on a Nichols Creek sign, but
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the same set of woods, so
patternformed and that was probably my biggest story

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of anyone in the industry saying anything. And you know, like I don't.

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I think some people, a lot
of people into Bigfoot are so blown

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away by the fantastic nature that they
just don't know how to act around people.

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They don't know that. People just
want to do whatever. I let

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people bring Bigfoot up to me.
I don't have to because they flip the

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channels too long. They're gonna see
my mug on some bigfoot show. They

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run those things all the time,
and people are going to talk about it.

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So I talk about that level.
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It's not the most important thing in
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that's gonna hurt some feelings, but
there are other things that are more important

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than sass watch on the planet.
And I love the topic and I love

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to talk about it, but I
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face about it. You know,
I have to commend you on that two

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things. I think your answer to
the question was brilliant, you know,

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thank you. I'm a sane person. Right. I'm a professional person myself.

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Chester people know I do Bigfoot.
Like you said, it's not the

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driving factor in my life. It's
one hell of a good hobby. I

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love it. But in my day
today, anybody that's ever mocked has always

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sat down and left with a better
understanding of why I research. Right,

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it's an educational tool. Yeah,
like, yeah, it might be funny

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haha to them until you talk and
find out why. When you talk to

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that everyday person, a doctor,
lawyer, who had a sighting of something

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they can't explain, it's not so
funny to people at Eman. Yeah.

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Right, And that's a great hah. That's an incredible point, Sean,

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because another reason that I continue to
do this is the work that me and

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my wife do with hurting children.
We have a ministry outreach. Our goals

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to bring the love of Christ to
hurting kids to wildlife encounters, and we

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have done numerous bigfoot expeditions. And
I don't want to hear some high and

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mighty elitists, you know, squashing
down the idea of bigfoot because they have

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lesser brain cells, or because there's
some kind of ego and hurting that little

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kid who dreams big and wants to
go look for something to interest them.

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That's where it makes me mad.
And so I think that this topic obviously

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probably represents a lot of the child
in all of us, which is a

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good thing. I mean, I
have grown up yet, you know,

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right, and you know, I
don't want to I've seen it. It

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sucks and and I pay my bills
and I do what I gotta do,

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but I still have a yearning for
this. And I think that's a great

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point about when you sit down and
talk to people that most people will at

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least come that's that's kind of that's
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or what happens. I've I've noticed
this too. I had the one guy

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who you know, had the I
went off on when to headle look that

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way now. But I have had
a couple of people like just pull me

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aside to like a fishing ear sport
hunting show, right, and they'll go

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and I know when they pull me
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just know, and they'll tell me
some story they would never dream going public

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with, you know, Like,
I don't know if you think this is

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real, but I saw this big
shaggy thing about seven feet tall with the

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reddish brown hair crossing the road in
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And I think sometimes us treating other
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as important, you know, absolutely, And guys Baker hold that thought.

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We have to take our break.
It is nine twenty eight, folks.

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You're listening to the Sasquatch Experience Monday, April. First, this is not

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an April fool's joke. You're listening
to the Sasquatch Experience for Chester Moore,

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Shawn Forker, James Baker, Vince
Nes met Henry May. And we'll be

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back right after this new Steve A. Simbon Ah. Yes, the day

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after the Easter Bunny leaves the eggs
in Candy Studio four oh one smells like

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a sulfur pit. Thanks Lannie.
Oh it's nice to Oh okay, can

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you take it to the bathroom and
turn the fan on please. I'd much

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rather smell of cabbage right now.
The stink pit it smells like in here.

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I apologized everybody. This is the
Bigfoot Bullhorn. Happy Monday night to

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you all right here on the Sasquatch
experience. Well, hopefully that's a problem

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that's going to get handled anyway.
Let's do it. We're here for you

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know, on the bullfoot Bullgarn.
The BFRO, or as I like to

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say, BUFFRO, had a investigation
of a recent sighting of a sasquatch like

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creature north of Centralia, Washington State. According to one witness who was riding

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motorcycles with his friend and three and
a half year old son on a motorcycle.

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Okay, I bet he had his
own motorcycle back on February fourth,

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the group spotted something running across the
ridgetop about a half a mile away.

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Quote. It was very large,
human shaped. The man reported to the

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BFRO there was one color team slash
brown. Well that's two colors, but

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moving across a very rugged terrain,
making a beeline for the trees. The

406
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three of them watched the figure for
about thirty seconds before it went out of

407
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:19.759
sight. It moves so fluently with
little arm movement, unlike a human being

408
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:26.119
running. The witness said. It
easily was ten feet tall for us to

409
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.039
be able to see it from that
distance. The witness reported the sighting to

410
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:37.079
the BFRO on February eighth, investigator
Scott Taylor followed up with his investigation.

411
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Taylor said that that area is well
known for bigfoot sightings and seems to be

412
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traveled corridor between the Capitol Forest and
Bald Hill area. Based on the description

413
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:53.720
of the way the creature walked and
its speed across the terrain, I believe

414
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that these three witnesses were fortunate to
see a sasquatch. Another investor, GA

415
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:06.240
we all know Matt Moneymaker, also
talked to the witnesses at length. Moneymaker

416
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:11.640
noted that Fester's hobby is motorcycle trail
riding, which has allowed him to explore

417
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a lot of backcountry. He has
observed large animals and humans near and far

418
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while riding around the hills over the
years. This figure was observed at about

419
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:26.279
a half a mile distance, but
with that unobscured view as it moved along

420
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:33.039
an open area, both he and
the riding companions were certain they were watching

421
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:38.720
something that was upright and roughly ten
feet tall. Now, Moneymaker said,

422
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:44.640
if the figure was human, the
witness and his friend what have figured that

423
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:51.480
out? The figure they saw was
simply too big to be human. Lenny,

424
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:59.559
please again, I apologize for my
brother's irrehensible behavior. The investigator points

425
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:04.599
out that that wildlife naturally transits between
the mountains of the Olympic Peninsula and then

426
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:11.160
the Cascade Mountains. And this is
the first sasquatch sighting listed for Lewis County

427
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:23.559
on the BFR website. When we
come back, very disappointing announcement. You're

428
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:34.240
listening to the big foot bullhorn threat
here on the sasquatch experience. Do you

429
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:40.119
have feelings of inadequacy? Do you
suffer from shyness? Do you sometimes wish

430
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:44.160
you were more assertive? If you
answered yes to any of these questions,

431
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:49.039
ask your doctor or pharmacist about tequila. Tequila is the safe, natural way

432
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:53.720
to feel better and more confident about
yourself and your actions. Tequila can help

433
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:57.119
ease you out of your shyness and
let you tell the world that you're ready

434
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:01.599
and willing to do just about anything. You'll notice the benefits of tequila almost

435
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:07.400
immediately, and with a regiment of
regular doses, you can overcome any obstacles

436
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.559
that prevent you from living the life
you want to live. Shyness and awkwardness

437
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:15.279
will be a thing of the past, and you'll discover many talents you never

438
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:20.839
knew you had stop hiding and start
living with tequila. Tequila may not be

439
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:22.759
right for everyone. Women who are
pregnant or nursing should not use tequila.

440
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:25.839
However, women who wouldn't mind nursing
or becoming pregnant are encouraged to try,

441
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:30.799
and side effects may include dizziness,
nausea, vomiting and incarceration, erotic lustfulness,

442
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:32.319
loss of motor control, loss of
clothing, loss of money, loss

443
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:36.759
of virginity, delusions of grand are
table dancing, headache, dehydration, drime

444
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:38.200
out, and a desire to see
karaoke and play all night. Rouse of

445
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:42.200
strip pok or through their dare and
naked twister. Warning. The consumption of

446
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.000
alcohol may make you think you're whispering
when you're not. Is a major factor

447
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:46.599
in dancing like a retard. May
cause you to tell your friends over and

448
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:49.880
over again that you're in love with
them. Also may cause you to think

449
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.960
you can sing. Alcohol may lead
to believe that ex lovers are really dying

450
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:54.440
for you to telephone them at four
in the morning. Alcohol may make you

451
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:58.519
think you can logically converse with members
of the opposite sex without spitting. It

452
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.400
may create the illusion that you are
tough for smarter, faster, and better

453
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:04.119
looking than most people, and it
may lead you to think people are laughing

454
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.039
with you. Alcohol may cause pregnancy, and it also may be a major

455
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.319
factor in getting your ass kicked.
So what are you waiting for? Stop

456
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:34.440
hiding and start living with tequila?
What are you kidding me? I understand

457
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:39.000
that it's April Fool's Day, but
come on now, October fourth and fifth

458
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:46.400
of this year, the Hanobia Bigfoot
Festival and Conference in Hanobia, Oklahoma has

459
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:53.039
been canceled, and it was canceled
by Artie Carnes and the Kyamiche Mountain Christian

460
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:59.920
Mission. Ah. You know,
at some point on the Sasquatch Experience,

461
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:05.799
I'm sure we will talk about the
Hanobia events that happened that created this festival

462
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:10.239
in conference to continue talking about it. I do not understand what the politics

463
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:19.039
is involved here, but unfortunately this
is not an April Fool joke. Thanks

464
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:22.920
again for listening to this edition of
the Big Football Horn right here on the

465
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:29.119
Sasquatch Experience, and of course,
as always I'm there we meet again.

466
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:45.400
Keep your toe in the mind.
We here at the Sasquatch Experience do not

467
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:51.000
condone the use of tequila as once
again our editor must have fell asleep at

468
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:54.519
the wheel tonight. Good evening,
folks, welcome back Sasquatch experience. I'm

469
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:59.159
Sean Forker, James Baker, Henry
may Vince and has bitten our guest Chester

470
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:01.639
Moore. Guy. We had a
great first half of the show. Vance.

471
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:05.679
Thank you for that entertaining big foot
bull horn tonight. I appreciate that,

472
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.239
buddy, mm hmmm. And the
bathroom as we say, well,

473
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:14.280
that's what already belongs. He was
really stinking up the joint tonight. Hey,

474
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:17.639
that the NUBI Bigfoot conference. That's
that's news to me. I'm glad

475
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:22.800
you brought that up, fools Brook. I was one of the speakers and

476
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:29.199
got a faceboot message about that it
may still be going on. So it

477
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:34.800
does. I hope it does,
because Chester keep us posting, Yeah,

478
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.719
I'm gonna speak this year, and
I gotta I got an email. It

479
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:39.400
looks like it's it's a good chance
it's still gonna go on. They didn't

480
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:43.840
get much more details than that,
but that's a little caveat I can add.

481
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:47.199
Right there there you go, breaking
news right here after the bullhorn.

482
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:51.320
So thank you Chester. See we
can we bring you up to the latest,

483
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:54.480
folks, we keep our commitments to
you on that. So Baker,

484
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:57.679
before we went to break, You're
gonna ask a question. Go ahead,

485
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.280
pick up where you left off,
buddy. No, I think it was

486
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:02.679
more of a statement and kind of
what he was already talking about. He

487
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:06.880
says, you know, that's the
one thing you make a valid point about

488
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.039
people you meet about the Bigfoot,
the people that make fun of you and

489
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:14.519
things like that, or try to
make life more difficult. The opposite of

490
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:16.639
what I see a lot is and
I saw some this weekend, and I've

491
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:22.840
seen some of the other conferences are
as the like I call him almost street

492
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.719
preachers, Like they're just like that. You have to believe exactly what they

493
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:30.840
say or they just keep jamming it
down your throat. That's got this has

494
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.760
got to be a stick formation.
And you see what you're like, No,

495
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.079
no, I don't. And they
mad. And those are the people

496
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:44.119
that make it harder for us to
research into a lot of those. I

497
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.920
look, I'm a very non drama
person. I don't mind confrontation. I

498
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:52.480
don't ever look for it because I
look at like this scene on Tombstone,

499
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.320
my favorite movie. You know,
Johnny Ringo wants to fight wid at Ear

500
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:58.480
if he says, I'm not going
to fight you today. There's no money

501
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.320
in it, you know, so
unless there's a cause for me to argue

502
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:05.519
with someone or like, hey man, this stick formation have to be two

503
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:09.119
bigfoots setting up a territorial corridor.
Cool, glad you believe that? By

504
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:14.239
I don't, I don't really,
I don't really fight it because I don't

505
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.039
care, honestly. I mean,
if they want to think that, But

506
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:20.360
the ones that get in your face
about it, I'm like, I'll just

507
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:23.599
it's called delete. They're in block
cause if they're going to be that.

508
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:29.559
My theory is if someone is going
to be so dogmatic, not only dogmatic,

509
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:32.440
but like intense in your face about
something that we haven't even proved to

510
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:37.960
exist on a scientific level yet to
where they're like in your face and you

511
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:40.360
suck because you don't believe in it, delete block. I don't need that

512
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:43.519
in my life. That's just kind
of kind of how we to live.

513
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:45.280
You know. I'll be nice to
everybody, but if you become get in

514
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:49.960
my face about something that's stupid,
by see ya Cinara, you know,

515
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:53.519
right, and to take off what
you were saying Baker, like, when

516
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:59.039
you've been here a long time,
you know, these aren't new conversations that

517
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:01.679
have been had. These kindation that
going on from the beginning, and nobody's

518
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:07.079
proven anything yet exactly to Chester's point, like, but we've heard people trying

519
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:12.480
to make hay out of this stick
formation since we started. You know,

520
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.920
really someone brought them up. I
like Chester before we went on the air.

521
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:19.000
It was funny, how like,
up until twenty five years ago,

522
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.119
nobody was talking about things like wood
knocks and stuff, and all of a

523
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.599
sudden, somebody says it takes it
on and it becomes the gospel of behavior

524
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.679
for these things. But when you
go back and I don't recall it now,

525
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:35.039
the sounds we've had for forever.
But like the tree knocking, Like

526
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:38.360
I don't recall that in any of
the early literature of the books. I

527
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:40.880
could be wrong, it wouldn't be
the first time, but I don't recall

528
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:46.480
that. Henry, do you recall
when tree knocking became a thing. I'm

529
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:52.679
trying to remember. I don't believe
I believe I ever read about any book

530
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:58.519
before like nineteen ninety five. Yeah, yeah, it's it. I don't

531
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:02.000
remember it being like Bigfoot casebook or
you know, Lauren Coleman's books or any

532
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:06.280
of that early stuff like that.
It may have been in there and we

533
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.159
missed it. I mean, I
think it's good chance it's part of the

534
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:12.679
phenomenon. I've certainly heard that myself. Not a lot, but I've heard

535
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:16.480
things that were like that wasn't in
limb cracking, you know, but that

536
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:22.119
that, and like just certain other
things being in the vernacular of the phenomenon.

537
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:27.159
It has made it a lot harder
to research because everyone knows every they

538
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.880
know the talking points. It's like, yeah, man, they no longer

539
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:34.280
just say, you know, hey, I saw this thing. You know,

540
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:36.960
I was I was in my deer
stand and this thing come and stood

541
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.239
behind this tree about seventy five years
art and kept looking out behind the tree

542
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:44.960
that I just saw this shadow move
through. It had this certain shape.

543
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:47.960
Now you get well, you know, I found this travel corridor and there

544
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.719
was a stick pointing this way and
another stick going this way. And then

545
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:54.920
at that night I heard this particular
sound in the background, and I heard

546
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:59.480
a whoop, and I heard the
samurai chatter. And you know, it's

547
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:05.199
hard to sort through all of that
so much because of It's like you could

548
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:09.400
as an interviewer, and you guys
as well, I can really easily if

549
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:14.599
I wanted to guide a conversation somewhere, you know, you can, and

550
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:19.320
sometimes just better to just let people
talk. And I've even had a particular

551
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.559
situation where someone was going like,
I mean, they give me every single

552
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:28.280
thing you've ever heard of on a
big foot television program in like three minutes,

553
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.039
you know, and I just said, okay, let's just start.

554
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:36.039
Let's leave all that stuff out.
What did you see? Because it was

555
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:39.719
a sighting thing they saw, and
they told me this thing that they saw.

556
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:45.280
I said, where did this other
stuff come into this equation of the

557
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:50.000
sighting? And they were like,
well, I just remembered stuff that I

558
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:53.159
had seen in that woods and things
like that, and that could be valid.

559
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:57.679
I said, but let's stick with
the one thing we know for sure

560
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.239
is related to your sighting, and
that's what and saw with your eyes.

561
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:02.920
And then they just kind of calm
down about it. You know. I

562
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.920
think sometimes people are wanting to they're
so nervous about telling the story that they

563
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:13.199
want to fill in the blanks with
anything that might give them back up evidence

564
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:15.599
to a bigfoot research. You know, I think you make a really good

565
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.880
point with that, Chester, And
as we've talked about this in the past,

566
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:25.519
is oftentimes, as investigators researchers,
are we leading the witness to where

567
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:29.599
we want them to go, not
are we listening for where they need to

568
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:32.199
take us? And and like you
said, pulling back and slowing it down.

569
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:36.079
It's a fundamental issue I've had for
a long time and I've seen it

570
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:42.760
in countless situations where I've been along
with somebody interviewing someone where they're giving the

571
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.920
narrative to the witness without even realizing
it, like you're coaching them on.

572
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:51.199
And it's there's not a lot of
integrity to that, right, whether it's

573
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:54.880
done maliciously or not. You kind
of diluted your data pool. Yeah,

574
00:41:54.920 --> 00:42:00.320
it's really it's it can be a
tough area and something like this. It's

575
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.119
not like there's an associated press guide
book to bigfoot interviewing, you know,

576
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.480
you know, like I have when
I started off in my journalism career.

577
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:09.239
This is kind of what we do, you know, So I just take

578
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:14.559
basic from my and I'm sure I've
made mistakes doing the same stuff, you

579
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.280
know, certainly not intentionally, but
I try to always kind of just bring

580
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:22.840
things back to what happened, and
then we can ask, we can look

581
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:27.760
at other things. And sometimes it's
it's some it's sometimes it's not everything people

582
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:30.119
see is a bigfoot, you know, and and not everything they see is

583
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:35.559
a guy in a suit, and
not everything as a whole as a lie.

584
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.400
There's something. There's other things people
see. And I'll give you an

585
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:44.000
interesting one because in the other more
I guess you could call mainstream work that

586
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.519
I do. I do a lot
about like exotic wildlife, changing the landscape

587
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:52.480
of America that's out there, so
much in the exotic world that is changing.

588
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:54.639
And a guy told me is thing
in central Texas and he was out

589
00:42:54.639 --> 00:43:00.880
on a bigfoot expedition in an area
that was kind of un known for bigfoot.

590
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.880
I kind of had some I had
some intel on the basic area within

591
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.480
about thirty four forty five minute drive
and they've never heard a lot. And

592
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:13.880
all of a sudden he talks about
this thing that came up and it moved

593
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:15.360
in a weird fashion. You could
see it because if you ever use night

594
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:20.079
vision goggles, it's not like you
see on the movies, you know.

595
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.719
And this thing really big, about
six feet tall and had these weird He

596
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:28.440
said, it almost looked like these
two horn things off of it. And

597
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:31.559
he said when it left this area, it just like bam, it jumped

598
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:36.920
and left. And I said,
you know, there's something that's becoming more

599
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:42.719
common on ranches in that particular area, and it's a red kangaroo. And

600
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:49.280
a red kangaroo can get about five
feet tall, and they're a balanced when

601
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:53.000
they move, and they're out there
and they escape fences, and I know

602
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:57.920
of stuff well. And the guy
went back because he said it looked like

603
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.760
horns and it moved really weird.
He even mapped out and found there was

604
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:06.800
a property within a half mile that
had red kangaroos. So crazy, we

605
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.280
thought he wasn't saying it was a
bigfoot. He didn't know. He thought

606
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:12.880
it might have been something of other
cryptid, you know, But it was

607
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:15.960
for the expedition. I'm not saying
he for sure saw a red kangaroo,

608
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:19.800
but when we narrowed that down and
there was a place nearby, it made

609
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.559
sense. You know. So people
see other stuff too out there that may

610
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:28.920
or may not be bigfoot. Do
you think he's still a jackalobe? I

611
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:34.760
have not seen a jackoalobe jackalobes.
No, although in Duvoice, Wyoming,

612
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:38.920
they have the largest taxidermied jackalobe of
all time and it is in a store

613
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:43.840
and it's all real rabbit fur.
And Peter would hate it because they must

614
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:46.519
have killed three hundred and fifty rabbits
to make this, you know what I

615
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:51.719
mean. It was like it was
like, you know, it was you

616
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:57.280
know Chester that brings me back to
because I'm old enough and being a kid

617
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:02.400
in the nineteen seventies in the morning, eating breakfast, getting ready for school

618
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:07.440
as a little kid, and mom
would have the AM radio on to the

619
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:14.920
most popular news radio station in the
Chicago area, and there was a report

620
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:22.760
of a kangaroo looking cryptid that was
running through the area and people freaked out.

621
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:28.800
That's not something that exists here,
and it terrified me as a kid,

622
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:32.760
but it terrified a lot of the
residents in the area, going,

623
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:40.079
what type of creature looks like a
kangaroo that's in the area in the here.

624
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:45.840
I'm sure you know now looking hindsight
twenty twenty, yes, somebody could

625
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:50.639
have brought you know, a young
kangaroo in and it escaped, you know,

626
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:55.159
its enclosure. But boy, let
me tell you the terror that was

627
00:45:55.360 --> 00:46:00.480
invoked upon the area. And we're
talking, you know, damn miles.

628
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:07.880
People were terrified of an unknown creature
that was in the area and and then

629
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:13.159
it was they got the weight lifter
biceps in the veins through their yes,

630
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:19.239
their jazz. Right. The first
time I did, we do a program

631
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.360
that Grant's Wildlife Encounters for children with
the critical illness parental loss. Girls have

632
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:27.639
been through trafficking, kids dealing with
depression. And we had some kids that

633
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.159
wanted to meet some kangaroos and there
was a guy who had our red kangaroos

634
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:36.480
and his females all had Joey's in
their pouch at the time. The females

635
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:38.559
you could walk up to im pat
and you know, and then they would

636
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:40.719
eat out of your hand. The
kids were freaking out. Well, there

637
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.199
was one big male in there,
but he was way off, you know,

638
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.159
like an acre or so away.
When the big male rolled up,

639
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:52.559
he showed those guns to us,
right like, I'm not going out like

640
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:55.440
this man. And the guy goes
this top of roll, you know,

641
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:00.679
and so that's yeah, there you
go. I mean, they're pretty intimidating

642
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:07.079
and as solid as you are.
Right, Yeah, I'm not going to

643
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:10.719
get into a fight or a kickfight
with you. No, Now, I'll

644
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:15.320
choose another way to die. Thanks. Yeah. And and vocalizations are something

645
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:21.119
that I have an issue to my
podcast Dark Outdoors, and I interviewed Ron

646
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:23.960
Moorehead a little bit on it,
and I went through different sounds that are

647
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:28.159
known animals. And one of the
things is people in the eastern half of

648
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:30.599
the US, a lot of them
don't realize they are a major There have

649
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:37.480
been major elk restoration programs in Kentucky
and Virginia and Tennessee and North Carolina and

650
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:42.159
all these states, and people are
not used to hearing rutting elk bugling.

651
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.760
You know, that's pretty much something
people in Colorado and Montana, wyoming O

652
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:51.280
the way up sitting northwest. So
someone at their campsite has a bull they

653
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:54.440
don't know lives, are elk bugling
by their tent. They may think it's

654
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:58.119
a sasquatch, all right, you
know, Chester, I had a three

655
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:02.119
point thirty in the morning encounter with
elk bugling in our campsite, and about

656
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:07.079
a dozen of us left cut out
impressions in our tents, scrambling what the

657
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:12.840
hell that noise was we knew after
the initial shock, you know, wore

658
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:16.000
off because it just happened so sporadically
early in the morning. But it was

659
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:22.679
crazy. And I live up in
northern PA. We have, you know,

660
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:25.519
elk herds up this way. And
Matt Arner, one of our co

661
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:29.239
hosts who's not on with us tonight, we were out about two weeks ago,

662
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.639
three weeks ago now, and we
were driving down the old roads,

663
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.639
dirt roads, and we just happened
to be going by and I saw something

664
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:42.360
large and fur covered just out of
my peripheral and I said, what maw,

665
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:45.960
what the hell was that? And
he stops and we look and there's

666
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:50.559
five or six elk right alongside the
road. Like we wouldn't even have seen

667
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:53.480
them. They were so still.
I just happened to catch that. And

668
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:58.800
you're talking about massive creatures. Man. They are big and they got lung

669
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:01.800
powered, you know I do.
And the wildlife conservation world that I got

670
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:05.119
an elk back. There's an elk
right behind me. He was a former

671
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.400
elk, you know, he's a
part of an elk. But the incredible

672
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:13.239
animals has been great wildlife conservation work
to restore them on that part of the

673
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:16.079
world. As matter of fact,
I just I just put in for a

674
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:21.599
non resident Kentucky elk tag, hoping
it gets some elk for the more family

675
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:24.360
to last. This for beef replacement
for the next year. We'll see what

676
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:28.760
happens. I think probably ten thousand
others are drawn for that tag in Kentucky,

677
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:34.000
but it's you know, there's all
yeah, yeah, exactly. So

678
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:37.960
like in Bigfoot South, I talk
about, you know, you mentioned earlier

679
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:43.159
feral primates and escape animals and things
like that. We have in Dilley,

680
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:47.079
Texas, which is south of San
Antonio, an established and verified population of

681
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:53.840
Japanese macaqus. And my first encounter
hearing of those was back when I was

682
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:58.360
in college bull hunting down there,
and I was doing what I'm doing now

683
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.800
at a much lesser level. And
this guy had read my column and invited

684
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:04.519
me to hunt his ranch, and
he told me his story at campfire night.

685
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.079
He goes, you know, a
buddy of mine was hunting one morning.

686
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.159
He was in his stand and he's
in this little valley and it was

687
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:15.639
real quiet, and this crazy scream
growl scream lets out, and it's really

688
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:17.440
close to him. He keeps getting
closer and closer. Then he hears something

689
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:22.159
hit the stand and then a little
furry hand reached inside of his opening of

690
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:27.719
the stand and it was one of
those Japanese macacs. He go, they

691
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:31.079
call them snow monkeys down there,
and there are I mean, I've getten,

692
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:35.840
I've gotten numerous pictures that readers have
sent me of those things down there,

693
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:38.440
sitting on fence post, a guy
at his deer feeder. One chase

694
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:42.960
the deer off. He has like
a shot of like the deer and then

695
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.480
the monkey, and then like the
monkey by hisself. And so you have

696
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:52.199
those recis monkeys in Florida. And
I did some digging and found out about

697
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:55.320
a place called the Chimp Farm,
and there were a couple of those that

698
00:50:55.400 --> 00:51:00.400
were in Florida that close in the
reesist monkey population an escape from there.

699
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:06.320
What was more interesting was what in
the escape of that. It was the

700
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:09.480
fact that they had and this doesn't
happen though they had a rangutan. They

701
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:15.280
had gorillas and lowland gorillas, I
believe, and they had orangutans. And

702
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:21.039
most places outside of Azia zoos they'll
get maybe a gibbon or something like that,

703
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:24.199
but they don't get like their rings
and the gorillas, and so would

704
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:30.360
it been possible we know people have
encountered these feral monkeys, would it be

705
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:32.760
possible, like in Florida, for
there to have been a few of these

706
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:39.079
out that would make a breeding populate. Actually, actually that brings up a

707
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:44.840
point I've been saying for years,
is you look at all these failed zoos,

708
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.800
You look at carnivals, you look
at NASA, you look at Peter.

709
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.400
Let's go Bobo the Monkey and New
York and it moves its way through

710
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:57.960
the Appalachian Trail, comes down to
Florida. The swamps between Florida and Texas

711
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:01.159
are are right with these animals,
animals that shouldn't be there, but the

712
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:06.719
conditions are right for them to thrive, and they're going to. And I'm

713
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:09.480
not saying that every one of them
is not a Sasquatch, and I'm not

714
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:14.559
saying every one of them has to
be. But you make the same ballid

715
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:20.440
points are is that we've displaced animals
in such a way over the last fifty

716
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:23.199
years in the United States, even
before fifty years in the United States.

717
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:27.280
But I would say, like from
the Space Race to like I said,

718
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.400
is like you you look at all
those places that were testing animals for different

719
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:35.599
things and somebody let them out.
Well the company went bankrupt and they euthanized

720
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:37.199
them. No, they didn't,
They just let them out. You know,

721
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:42.519
we had a it was at minks, I think it was. We

722
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.639
hadnk We're in a mink farm that
three thousand of them escaped. They're still

723
00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:50.400
looking for them. There's some all
over, but some of them are slowly

724
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:55.639
moving down We're probably slowly moving down
south because the weather was better, you

725
00:52:55.679 --> 00:53:00.880
know, in ma mank or Native
any way. So they would just integrate

726
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:05.480
to the population and give the giant
population boosts of those suckers, you know.

727
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:08.639
Oh yeah and there. But like
like any of these animals that we

728
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:14.239
have, we have people that come
home with a bullet constructor king kobra,

729
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:17.000
and then mom goes, that's not
happening, and let's out in the yard.

730
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:22.599
And then the floridas fill of cobras. Now, yeah, it gets

731
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:25.760
it gets interesting, you know.
Like I do a lot of research on

732
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:30.360
the black panther phenomenon and all that
as well, and I don't believe that

733
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:36.679
I think very few panther sidings are
escaped exotics. I don't think they're established

734
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.559
leopards. I don't think that a
circus train crashed. It's always a circus

735
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:44.239
tree. Apparently the least safe place
to be is in a circus train.

736
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:49.639
They always yeah, right in the
entire planet. And it happened to have

737
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:52.599
a female black leopard and a male
black leopard and they could survive in the

738
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:58.639
wild. Blah blah blah. But
the difference on the primates is you could

739
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:05.320
have a few young chimpanzees from the
nineteen sixties that got out and still be

740
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:09.679
alive, and they have slower reproductive
they're gonna be a lot shyer. So

741
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:15.920
a place like the Everglades, Okoch
Swamp, other areas could definitely have and

742
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:22.119
harbor small breeding populations of like you
know, chimps, those kind of animals.

743
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:27.159
Arranges and you know the Mayaca eight
that Lauren Coleman had made famous in

744
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:31.679
his post out of Mayaka in Florida. Man if I just saw that thing,

745
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:35.239
you know, and I was in
the woods or my house or that

746
00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:38.400
lady saw that thing, I wouldn't
I wouldn't go it's a bigfoot. I

747
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:42.119
go, my god, there's an
orangutane in the yard, you know.

748
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:45.800
And I think maybe she did think
it was an orangutan. I don't remember

749
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:50.079
now, but so I think you're
a great point that there's some of this

750
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:54.320
stuff out there that's that's different and
that doesn't fit to catch all bigfoot.

751
00:54:54.480 --> 00:55:01.000
You know, all right, guys, we've reached that the show where it's

752
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:06.920
it's come to the close, chester
final thoughts or promotions. Things you got

753
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:09.440
going on where the folks can find
you and continue to follow you. Yeah.

754
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:13.159
So one of the things I'm doing, my buddy Paul Fazenski and I

755
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:16.000
and another friend sat there working on
a project called wild Man of the Woods.

756
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:21.840
Go to the wild Man of the
Woods YouTube channel. Incredible incredible documentaries

757
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:24.840
that are being done there and a
new one coming out soon. Bigfootsouth dot

758
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:30.199
com get the book Bigfoot South.
Also Globalbigfoot dot Com and other website of

759
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:34.679
mind. We have created a thing
called the Global Bigfoot Society to help us

760
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:38.119
fund work we're doing with these hurting
children doing Bigfoot encounters. And if you

761
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sign up for that, you get
these four of these really cool cards under

762
00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:45.119
the style of John James Audubon.
On. This is this mainly website is

763
00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:51.480
mainly about everything but Pacific Northwest Bigfoot
they're on there too. It's other cryptids

764
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.840
and the book Bigfoot South is out
Bigfoot South dot com. And I will

765
00:55:54.880 --> 00:56:00.719
be appearing at the falc Monster Festival. Come up, real excited talking about

766
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:06.000
feral primates at that particular festival.
So excited about that. The book,

767
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:10.400
sorry, Sean, is the book, I'll go ahead on Amazon, Yeah,

768
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:14.480
it will be. It'll be available
after the falconvin I'll have that ready.

769
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:15.440
I've been traveling a lot of things
going to do that, and there

770
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:19.440
will be an audio version as well
that's being recorded in the next week.

771
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:23.480
Cool good ye, And thank you
guys for having me on asking killer questions.

772
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:29.119
And I always appreciate the opportunity to
talk with like minded individuals and talk

773
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:32.400
about this fun stuff called bigfoot.
Yeah, it's our pleasure. Thank you

774
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:36.199
for showing up. Yeah. Like
I said, it's been many years since

775
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:38.960
we talked, so I was glad
to reacquaint and get back together for an

776
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:43.400
episode. Same here man. Thank
you so much again. I really appreciate

777
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:46.079
it, guys. It's our pleasure. Folks. Sean Fork. You can

778
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:49.880
find me on all social media platforms. I go by my name. I

779
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.159
don't hide behind a pseudonym. Baker. You can find him wherever you find

780
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:57.159
me Vance, Where can folks find
you? They can find me sitting in

781
00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:00.760
this chair right here in the north. What's sub verbs of Chicago. But

782
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:06.480
I'm on Instagram and Facebook. There
you go, Henry, How about you,

783
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:12.679
buddy, Sinry May on Facebook?
He is and folks ladies, says

784
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:17.400
Baker says he's looking for a fifth. One more final shameless promotion. Look

785
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786
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:28.239
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Davies as the MC and those three handsome

787
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:32.239
gentlemen will be there representing the Sasquatch
experience. We are a sponsor of the

788
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:37.239
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789
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:40.599
see it. Radio will be there, gonna have a good time. We

790
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:45.039
were just at Bill Rigby's conference over
the weekend, the Pen Ohio Paranormal Conference,

791
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:49.360
And of course if you missed the
announcement Friday, we'll be returning to

792
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:52.360
the Small Town Monsters Fest in June. At the end of June, and

793
00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:57.119
can't Ohio, We're going to do
a live podcast but guys, we're doing

794
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something really special for this one.
You'll want to come in and enjoin the

795
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:02.000
live podcast. It's going to be
a hell of a good time. We're

796
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:05.320
gonna put a lot of effort into
it. Not that we didn't last year,

797
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:07.280
but it's going to be more of
an effort. So Henry, why

798
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.360
don't you go ahead and take us
out with those beautiful, beautiful words.

799
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:15.920
I'll be good, It'll be good
at it. There you go, folks,

800
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:17.880
keep on squatching. We'll see you
next time. Thank you. Guys.

801
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:27.159
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