EP 97: This, That, & The Other

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The views and opinions expressed by the
guests of Sasquatch Experience do not necessarily reflect

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the opinion of the host, sponsors, or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience.

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As always, listener discretion is ed
vibe. We got dumb wonder tupping blowing

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around out here, and welcome to
the Sasquatch Experience, folks. Sean Forker,

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James Baker, Vans Neezber, Henry
May, and Matt Arner here on

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Monday, March the eleventh, twenty
twenty four. That daylight savings time has

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crept in and kicked our asses just
a little bit. But alas we were

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here, Matt and I had a
great adventurous day yesterday which we're going to

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be really happy to talk about here
in just a little bit. Guys,

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thanks for joining us here. Last
week, of course we were off.

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I was over at Sasquatch Watch Radio, which runs concurrent with the Sasquatch Experience

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here on Monday nights at nine pm
Eastern and had a great time with my

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old fred Billy Willard. So if
you folks hadn't had a chance to check

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it out, it is archived.
You can go to Sasquatch watch radio on

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that thing called Facebook Clicking. Production
was thus up for me, it was.

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It was a good production. I
really enjoy Billy, He's a good

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dude. The Sean Forker songs the
AI generated for were my favorite. That

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was great one of them. Maybe, uh, Grammy winning, I don't

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know. It was very touching.
Well, Academy Award maybe, but next

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year. Yeah, well, you
know, how did we go? Brian

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Corben, our executive producer, in
the background, making sure we're being haveved

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tonight. Brian, thanks for popping
in with us. Sometimes we need chaperones,

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guys. Tonight's show, episode ninety
seven were creeping close to one hundred,

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this, that and the other because
Matt and I struggled all afternoon as

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we were driving around the back roads
of Pennsylvania trying to figure out a topic

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for tonight. We really wanted to
talk about what we had going on because

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it was an incredible day out in
the out in the world. It really

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was. Yeah, something great,
Matt. Wasn't it about being back in

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the weakness? Oh? Any time
you go out there, it's you know,

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just such an eye opening experience to
see the things that you know,

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we got to see and we'll talk
about later that. You know, the

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everyday people may not get to to
experience that, but we want them to,

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you know, we want people to
go out to the mountains and to

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the woods and be safe. And
yeah, we'll talked about that a lot

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later. Right getting into tonight's show, though, as I said, we

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are creeping close to one hundred,
trying to get some great productions put together.

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As we get on there Patreon,
I put up some photos from our

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trip yesterday, not all of them, not all of them, but some

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and Matt and I are putting together
another production, investigating Montour Road Part two,

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kind of carrying on the story of
the work we're doing up in the

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northern part of PA, a very
i would say, active part of Pennsylvania

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that doesn't get a lot of respect
and a lot of credit. But as

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Matt and I spend more time up
there, we start to see the little

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hints of culture of the Bigfoot impact
so much to the fact our receipt at

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the place we had dinner had a
Sasquatch on the actual receipt and a place

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where years ago nobody would take that, you know, nobody would even joke

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about it. Up that way,
so correct Bigfoot's on the mind of people,

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good or bad. Something has to
be the impetus of getting folks to

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be engaged. Matt and I are
up there trying to figure it out and

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trying to get engaged ourselves because we
want those sighting reports. And of course,

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folks, if you're listening and your
first time listener just joining us,

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thank you. If not, you've
been here for a while, you can

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report your siting confidentially five seven zero
nine four zero nine four one one,

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or email us info at sasquatch Experience
dot com. You can also go to

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our website, sasquatch Experience dot com
and click on submit your report, and

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of course it is anonymous. We
won't put out your information unless you want

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us to. We would like to
talk about it on the show. We

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can talk about it on the show
without talking about your personal information, but

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we kind of need those reports.
In fact, we got one through on

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we thought was the hotline the night
was actually my personal telephone number, as

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Matt and I were discussing before we
came on the air, So call her

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if you're listening. I will return
your call, just not tonight. Monday

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nights Monday night is for we're busy
doing this shit, doing this shit.

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Absolutely, we're doing this stuff that
have helps afford us to get out there

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and do the research. So it's
just good stuff. So again, five

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seven zero nine four zero nine four
one one is the number to send you

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a report. And if you want
to call that number and just tell us

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what to do with ourselves, we'll
also accept that. I will play that

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on the show. However, yeah, we'll also play and give out your

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phone number while we do it.
Hey, listen, guys, once upon

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a time and Henry, you know
this. If you called it and pranked

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our show, I put your ass
on notice and you were out there.

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Not only did I read your comment
and let you come make a fool of

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yourself, I also put your phone
number out there so anybody could call you.

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And I'm not saying how it's done
right, how it's done, you

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know, Matt and Sean. I
was really taken back by the fact because

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while the two of you were out
doing your research, the photographs showed a

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lot of snow. And I'm north
west of you guys, up in the

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Chicago region. It was fifty degrees. It was comfortable, it was T

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shirt weather, and yet you guys
are up in Pennsylvania and it's snowing on

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you and you're doing your investigation.
I'm like, how is this happening?

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That's crazy? Well, yeah,
I mean there's so many variables with the

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with the turn, so the gold
stream. We're also up in the you

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know about you know, twenty twenty
five hundred feet in elevation, so we

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have that going as well. We
have lake effect snow coming off of Lake

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Eriie. There's just so much that
that kind of really plays, you know,

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a gampit with the with the weather
up there. So and that's how

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it was. It was nice and
sunny for one picture and next thing,

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you know, it's almost like a
blizzard. Right. Well, I did

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sit down and I recorded my news
segment and I sent it to Sean,

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and Sean sends me the photographs back
of what they're what you two were doing

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currently. And I was outside having
a drink and it's sunny, it's warm,

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it's comfortable, I'm in a T
shirt and here you guys are getting

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snowed on. And I was like, wow, it's so crazy how our

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environment changes in a short distance of
each other, that you know, Yeah,

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you can have one event happen over
here, but another event happens over

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here in a completely different weather environment, and that put it into perspective for

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me. Yeah. Absolutely something to
note. And I think it's really important

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that if you keep an investigation log
or a research log, that you really

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catalog the environmental factors that are going
on around you. Right only because if

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you ever get called into the carpet
for shenanigans, you know your local location

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you know is if you can get
as close as possible, not a general

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because I'm sure there are parts of
Potter County Matt and I could say we

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were in Potter County and have completely
different weather than what we experienced yesterday.

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Yes, because, believe it or
not, Matt and I were up at

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the highest elevation at one point yesterday
in that area and we could see everything

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going on around us, but there
was nothing going on at us until the

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wind shift. And then all of
a sudden, that wind shift and brought

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everything up and it got white out, white out conditioned for a couple of

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minutes. How was the wind conditions
for you guys today? Horrible? It

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was windy. Yeah, right,
here's something else to think about Matt did

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some pretty amazing vocalization yesterday while we
were out on the ridge and no permeation

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whatsoever. The wind killed it.
There was there was no travel, no

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distance whatsoever. And the only knocking
of any sorts we could hear were trees.

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There goes the train. The wind
was knocking the trees around and causing

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the clanking yesterday. But I mean
we couldn't hear hardly. We had no

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distal hearing whatsoever. Like the sound
was just dead. After a certain footage,

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it just died. Yeah. Yeah, And that was the the thing.

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If we didn't have that wind yesterday, you know, like it's just

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one big bowl in that valley there
that that vocalization would have went for miles.

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But with that wind, I mean, it really just killed it.

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We found a great spot that we
could go and do those vocalizations. And

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I was actually looking in Onyx and
we have two kind of general spots up

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there there are close by, and
the other spot goes into the other valley.

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There's actually like a small finger that
kind of goes out towards the east,

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and then you have a valley to
the north end east, and then

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you have another valley that goes to
the south and a little bit to the

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west, So we could be in
the one spot and then do vocalizations,

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and then we can have somebody else
at that other location, which is maybe

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about a quarter mile up, but
they're actually going into a whole different area.

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And if you have a good still
night, those vocalizations will carry a

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for miles, right, But is
that not a learning point for you guys

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that you know the weather conditions,
which is originally why I brought it up.

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The variance in the weather conditions and
those vocalizations are yelled out may not

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carry as far as you would anticipate
because of the weather conditions. And you

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need to take that into account too. When you're journaling, you know what

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your exploration is and your research is
going on, how the weather is influencing

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what it is that you're trying to
discover. Well, it's a one hundred

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percent accurate statement that you're making,
and it gets really important to do so

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because of you know, those those
variables we were talking about a little earlier,

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you know, being able to notate
beyond a shadow of a doubt of

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what was happening, because if you
have somebody looking into your information and they're

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just using a cursory examination, not
really going through. They can challenge anything

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you say. Also impacts that your
reliability and the data you're collecting, So

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if something happened or something didn't happen, you kind of know what days to

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avoid to go out there if you
really plan on doing some active searching.

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Yesterday, for Matt, it was
really just passive recon for us to go

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out and do some We weren't actively
engaged. We were kind of following up

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on an area Matt had done an
investigation on, But we didn't go out

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there with the express purpose to do
quote unquote squatching. We went out there

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to get the label RAND and explore
because we have a couple of projects coming

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up that we're working on that we
need some good areas to check. And

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I think Matt, I think we
we hit our objective yesterday. Oh absolutely

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that. But then also we had
a situation where we thought we found some

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impressions. Yes, yes, so, And just going back to the weather

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thing, I've heard some researchers say, you know what, we do don't

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go out in the rain. We
don't go out in this because you can't

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hear anything. But you know what, your other senses, and this kind

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of leads right into the impression the
impressions that we're found is Okay, we

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may not be able to hear,
but you know what, there's other things

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that we can kind of get from
the environment. And one thing was Sean

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really had his eyes on the ground
and I said, hey, you know

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what, let's take a look for, you know, any sort of impressions,

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and he found a trackway. But
well, we can go into that

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a little maybe a little later,
but that's something that Okay, our hearing

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is kind of all right, it's
cut out, so now your other senses

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are going to kind of pick up. And again it may be I've heard

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some researchers, especially out in the
Pacific Northwest where they get a lot of

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rain, where okay, you're going
to get that rainfall and you're going to

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have that drown out any sort of
noise, but that doesn't roll out you

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having a visual site or finding other
evidence such as you know, the nest

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from the Olympic project or track wet
or anything like that. Matt, can

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we just say my eyes were fricking
on point yesterday. They were, and

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they were I was I was extremely
impressed because you know, I was telling

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Sean I went to the eye doctor
and they said, you must do like

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a I have weird eyes sight and
it's probably because my profession. I have

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one eye that kind of scans and
one eye that's kind of you know,

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reads up really close. And it's
because i might be at a computer screen,

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but I'm also looking to make sure
that there's nobody coming up behind me.

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So you know, but Sean,
I mean, it was just,

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you know, We're sitting there driving
down the road and I'm like, hey,

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you know, let's look in the
field for for some elk. And

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I, you know, I'm kind
of keeping my eyes towards the road and

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you know, obviously, and but
you know, Sean was like, Yo,

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there's some elk in that field.
And I'm like, you gotta be

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kidney. And here there was a
there was a nice heard of it.

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You know, probably I don't know
anywhere from you know, ten to fifteen.

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Yeah, yeah, elk that we're
out in the one field and elf.

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Oh wow, that's awesome. Yes, well we got elk. So

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later on I was just talking to
Emily floor Matt on Instagram, one of

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our people we follow and a friend. Yes, Matt and I were talking,

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you know, roadside sidings, and
and I was just saying this to

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Emily, and elk is a large
creature. It ain't freaking tiny, Okay,

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it's if you don't know what an
elk is, think of a big

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ass deer, Okay, really big
ass deer, kind of moose like,

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yeah, but it's a big it's
a it's a big freaking animal, all

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right. And Matt and I are
driving along the road and out of the

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corner of my eye, I I
think I might have screamed or I might

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have yelled a pro sanity. I'm
like, what the fuck? And Matt

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and we're off to the side of
us. Now listen, Matt could have

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stuck his hand out his window and
touched an elk. Yes, this is

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that close to us. That's amazing. Yeah, where you guys, I

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didn't know there were elk in that
area. Well, listen, not not

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all of Pennsylvania. Parts of Pennsylvania, and that area we do our research

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at is an elk an elk area. But vance if I had nick caught

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that out of the corner of my
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yes, we would have drove right
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perspective. We're out there purposely looking
for stuff, right right, and we

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I almost missed it. But you're
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road doing your drive, and maybe
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times a week and you're zoned in
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you I've passed something and maybe roadside
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that's crazy. I had no idea
that the elk population, not by

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you or in that area was that
prominent. No, absolutely, what wow?

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Oh county yep. Yeah, well
we have all county named after him.

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Absolutely. But the one thing that
the one thing that I brought up

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is people say, oh, well, you know, an eight hundred pound,

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you know, six foot nine creature, obviously somebody's gonna see one or

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they're gonna you know, they can't
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were, we literally, you know, almost stroke past. I don't know,

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maybe there was seven or eight in
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you're talking about a minimum of five
hundred pounds for each animal, right

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wow. So so you're looking out
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just matched in it. Like,
you know, once we get the pictures

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out, I mean, you know, you can see how well they're their

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fur kind of blends in with the
with the fauna there. But you know,

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you figure something that's you know,
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at that size, and there's only
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going to see that. But I
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blocks it out because like when I
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was a deer standing within reason of
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I didn't see it. That when
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Fork are driving the one day and
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we saw some cows, but there
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bushes that until they started moving.
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you know, Like and we had
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you go back through the video and
the pictures, you're like, yeah,

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there's Betsy over there there. That
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that, you know, you know, you if they wouldn't have moved right

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that gull could have sat there for
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on the other stuff. Yeah,
and seen it and that's what they were,

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what four hundred five hundred pound beasties. Yep. Yeah, I cannot

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testify to that. I took my
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Wisconsin and we were literally on a
trail and I'm clearing the brush that's in

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front of me, and I'm trying
to clear the brush of a tan colored

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animal that turned around and looked at
me as to what am I doing rubbing.

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I had no idea this deer it
was, and it was a buck

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was steaming in my way of while
I'm trying to clear, and I had

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no idea it was there none.
And of course my kids were totally excited

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at the fact of oh, look
a deer, and you know, it

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just kind of scampered off. I
was like, Wow, it's so incredible

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when you're in that environment, how
these nature animals can completely camouflage and blend

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into their environment. You would never
know that they're there. Yeah. No,

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I did, not Old Van st
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I was think exactly what I ended
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anyhow. But this area of Pennsylvania, we've really been getting really active in

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it. Matt and I are gonna
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we have to go to break here
shortly, so after we come back out,

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I'll let you talk about the sighting
report. Matt. We can give

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a little bit more about what we're
doing before we go into the break,

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and I know the news is going
to encompass something. I do want to

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remind folks that can come see it
in person at the pen Ohio Paranormal Conference

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on March thirtieth and Hermitage, PA. Get your tickets now at the Agents

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of the Unexplained on Facebook. They
also have a website and go to the

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Facebook page get it. We'll be
there, at least myself, Baker and

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Arner will be there. We're going
to have a good time, going to

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spend the day with you. We
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come out and see us. We
like to connect with our audience. We

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have a lot of fun and I
don't know, I think we're one of

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the most approachable groups of individuals out
there now. We love our we love

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our fans, the few of you
that are out there, and we have

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a really good time. We really
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rubin elbows, just elbows with you, folks. We're not really anything else

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at least, and that brings up
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Sean. I don't mean to interrupt. But for those that are watching

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currently right now, and for our
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through Facebook or other social media means. Contact us, share what it is

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about sharing with you guys and what
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feel free and please share your interest
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love to talk about it, sharing
the laughter and love, folks. Will

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be right backward, show me all
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lot of it, folks. We're
going to take a quick break. We'll

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be right back right after this.
Stay tuned Tues Team awesome. Yes,

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welcome back to a Monday night after
taking a week off because Sean Forker decided

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he wanted to do other things instead, But welcome back and thanks for joining

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us on this edition of Bakefootball Horn
Right here on the Sasquatch experience. So

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we're gonna kind of kick things off
here a little bit. Sorry if I

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sound nasily, it's because I am. It's a head cold. Love to

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head cold. You want me to
pause while I snort? I could do

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that. I'll put it on you
there, Okay. So kicking off twenty

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twenty four, that means West Virginia
has a full year's worth of monster and

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cryptid festivals to look forward to.
Popular events like Moudman and the Bigfoot Festival

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will be returning once again, but
this year's West Virginians we'll see a new

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festivals or we'll see new festivals looking
to break into the sea. These events

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often attract thousands of visitors, some
from clear across the country like I do.

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If you plan on staying in the
area, though, make sure that

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you make reservations well ahead of time. So kicking things off for new festivals

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in West Virginia is the Grafton Monster
Festival. Wait what is the grafted Monster?

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You ask, Well, let me
tell you. The Grafton Monster is

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described as being seven to nine feet
tall, four feet wide and having white,

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seal like skin. The monster also
possesses no discernible head, the Grafton

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Monster's head was rested within its chest. This monster also has a very loud

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bellow now. The Monster Festival for
graft and Monster will be June fifteenth through

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the sixteenth, and it'll be outside
the Black Cat Rookery Bookstore. The Grafton

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Monster Festival is one of West Virginia's
two new cryptid festivals coming in twenty twenty

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four, and the festival well is
being hosted by, Like I said,

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the Black Cat Rookery Store, which
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its Craft and Monster Museum, which
can be found inside the store. Next

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up on the big event list is
the West Virginia Bigfoot Festival, and that's

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going to be held on June twenty
seventh through June twenty ninth. The West

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Virginia Bigfoot Festival will be returning for
its fourth year, but it'll be at

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a new location and with an extra
day of festivities. According to the Facebook

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page event group, the event will
feature vendors, live music, food trucks,

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guest speakers, workshops. What's the
workshop, Let's go build a bifoot

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Okay in the workshop. I'm sorry
people, it's a stretch okay anyway,

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twenty twenty threes. Festival also featured
a Bigfoot calling contest, which everybody lines

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up on a stage with their phone
and the first one that and dial and

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get hold of Bakefoot wins. Yeah. I just made that part of it,

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but they do have a calling contest
that might be more ridiculous. When

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we come back, we'll discuss a
favorite West Virginia festival. You can all

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am to five pm, It's Veggie
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County is one of West Virginia's lesser
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Barker newsletter back in nineteen seventy six. Veggieman Day will also be making its

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Folk Life Center on July thirteenth.
Thanks again for listening to this edition of

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the Big Football Horn right here on
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telling we meet again. Keep your
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on break, I was alerted to
the fact that there is another Clearfield County

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Outdoor Show, Central PA Outdoor Show, Yes, from March fifteenth to the

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seventeenth in Clearfield this week Clearfield County
Fairgrounds. Amy Boo will be there.

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Our good friend Amy Boo from Project
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All Around, great lady, good
friend and if you'd like to go out

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and see Amy, she'll be there
at that event. So go ahead,

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Centralpa Outdoorshow dot com for more information
on that. Get out there and support

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good research. That's what we do
with the Sasquatch Experience. So, Matt,

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before we went on break, I
said that we were going to allow

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you some time to talk about the
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So if you'd like to go ahead
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know, we don't have to give
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think the story is good enough for
our audience to listen as to why you

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and I are taking our times on
snowy days to go up there. Absolutely,

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so we got a Jesus christmin like
was that? Okay? That was

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it for me? Yeah. So
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person had an encounter up in that
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a good friend of ours. So
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and it's what you would consider a
good class be encounter. He didn't have

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a visualization, but you know,
with everything that he said, it really

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hit the nail on the head.
So what happened was back in June,

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he was up there with a group
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is very common in that particular area. There's a bunch of world class drout

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streams up in that general vicinity.
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His plan was originally to come up
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his plans changed, so he came
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till Wednesday. Most of the people
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then they're gone, so he'd have
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the river all to himself there.
So he had set up a tent and

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it was a little bit outside of
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of fields, some bottom land,
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the mountains were there. So he
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his tent set up. He was
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they had nothing happen whatsoever. Sunday
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by Sunday night he was the only
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night nothing happened. So then Monday
he goes out to fish. He's the

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only one out there, so he's
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like eight thirty. He comes back, starts his fire, has a little

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dinner. Around ten o'clock he's sitting
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sudden, he hears about four very
soft whoops. But he said where the

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woops were coming from, He thought
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him, but he thought that was
odd. And then almost immediately after the

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whoops went, he said, what
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asked him, I said, how
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he said, I don't know.
It was like somebody going like and of

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course, you know, there's one
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I didn't say anything, and then
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know, for some questions after the
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I said, then what happened?
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he heard this howl. And he
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probably for the next you know,
twenty thirty seconds. He said,

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it was so loud. He said, he felt that noise, you know,

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through him, He felt it reverberate
through him. He still thought it

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00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:27.160
was not that close or not that
far away from him, or not that

407
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:32.599
close. I'm sorry, but he's
somewhat at that point still felt relatively safe.

408
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.319
However, because of all three of
those things happening, and there's no

409
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.759
one else out there. He said, all right, I'm going to start

410
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:45.880
cleaning up the campfire, and you
know, I might be sleeping in the

411
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:50.559
truck tonight. Is kind of what
was going on through his head. So

412
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.599
about ten minutes later, as he's
cleaning up from about fifty yards away,

413
00:33:55.640 --> 00:34:02.000
he hears one real solid wood knock, and he said at that point,

414
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:06.839
and he's like, all right,
that's it, he jumps in his truck.

415
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:12.280
Now, what he did was he
drove out to there's a little side

416
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.480
road that we were on. He
drove all the way out to the main

417
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:20.719
road. It's not really a highway, but it's the main road that goes

418
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.880
through that particular valley. He did
not see one person. He said,

419
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.840
there was no cars, no people. There's a cabin up there where the

420
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.280
people from his fishing camp were normally
staying. He said, there was no

421
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:36.880
one there. Everything was dark.
He goes back and there is nothing.

422
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:42.719
So he drove closer to the road, took his car, turned it off,

423
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.800
locked the doors, stayed in the
car, tried to go to sleep.

424
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:49.519
He said. The very next day
he got up, he got to

425
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:54.199
sell service, called his girlfriend and
said I'm coming home. And Tuesday you

426
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:58.760
know, Tuesday morning, he was
packed up and out of there. Now

427
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.599
we spoke to him, we mentioned
about the gibber jabber and the first thing

428
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:07.320
that came up in my you know, when he was doing that, especially

429
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:13.119
when he did that description, I
thought of Ron moorehead in the Sierras sounds

430
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:17.280
right. And we've also had other
other accounts where people talked about, you

431
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:25.239
know, hearing some sort of weird
vocalization almost like a talking And I had

432
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.960
asked him, I said, have
you done any sort of research in the

433
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:30.639
past, have you looked into this? He said, absolutely not. He

434
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:36.519
said it wasn't until he started putting
two and two together. He spoke to

435
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:38.760
his girlfriend about it and he said, all right, you know then he

436
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:43.280
starts going on the internet. But
I don't think he was familiar with the

437
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:50.679
Sarah sounds. He just really didn't
kind of click into that. So so

438
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.360
I was pretty confident that that's something
that you know, that the witness may

439
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:58.280
not have been, you know,
completely familiar with, which you know,

440
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:02.800
for us as an encounter is is
pretty good. But going back to this,

441
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:07.559
uh, this area, this is
an area where in one valley we've

442
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:13.239
had this you know, very classic
class b encounter with the vocalizations in the

443
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:17.280
wood Knock the year before I think
it was well, that was not even

444
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:22.920
a year. It was about six
months before there was Wooden Knocks over in

445
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:27.000
the next well, it's I can't
say it's the next valley, but it's

446
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:31.360
the next roadway that comes up through
those mountains. So you know, so

447
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:36.039
there is some sort of action up
there, it's just that there's no people

448
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:42.519
up there. One observation, and
Sean was was the counter for this.

449
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.519
We were on the major around I'll
let you know what what road. It

450
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:52.440
was Route forty four, and we
jumped on at Cherry Spring State Park and

451
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:57.400
we drove that, Yes, absolutely, and we drove that all the way

452
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:01.519
down to Waterville in that amount of
time. How many cars would we pass

453
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:07.360
on? For four? We passed
four cars. Yes, So I mean

454
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.199
this is on a Sunday. Now, granted the weather wasn't that great,

455
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:16.119
but this is kind of typical though
for that particular area. Unless it's hunting

456
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:22.039
season, fishing season, or something
else, you're not going to see all

457
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:23.679
these people flood in, you know, flood in and it's not like the

458
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:29.440
Jersey Shore or you know, your
typical tourist area where people are coming in

459
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.440
all the time. You know,
you have just see thousands and thousands and

460
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:37.519
thousands of acres, and you know
you have literally, you know, no

461
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.800
one up there. So they could
be up there. They could have a

462
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:44.800
punk rock band for all we know. You know, no one's gonna hear

463
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:46.599
them, you know, no one's
gonna encounter them. They could do whatever

464
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:50.800
they want. I just wanted to
add to that point in Matt, that

465
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:52.840
the fifth or sixth time I've been
up there for with you, and I've

466
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:58.079
done some other investigation near there.
Yes, probably as we were talking to

467
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.719
Tom Farrence as the crow flies,
probably not far away from an investigation I

468
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:07.840
did in twenty sixteen with the PBS
Pennsylvania big Foot Society. The last few

469
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:12.239
times af there, we've saw no
cars aside from our own. Yeah,

470
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:17.239
it's remote, and you know,
for not frequent. Rather we're on season

471
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:22.239
or off season. The fact of
the matter is these setting reports are happening

472
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.159
in this area. Of course,
you're not going to have an intense amount

473
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:28.280
of frequency of them if there's not, if it's not a frequented area,

474
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.559
what's the one thing you need to
have? A sighting, A person a

475
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:36.639
damn witness, right right, certain, So if you don't have so many

476
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.559
people out there, how the hell
you're going to get a sighting report.

477
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:44.000
So, I mean, as the
frustration goes from these places that we're not

478
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:46.760
getting or we don't have a lot
of reports, you have to build the

479
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:52.360
relationships out there to get them.
These aren't you know, these are outdoorsmen,

480
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.960
they're older people, they are experienced
hunters. They're not people who are

481
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:59.960
going to mess around and piss around
in the bigfoot world. You know,

482
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.159
most of them do not believe until
they have an experience of their own.

483
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:05.599
And if they do believe, they're
not going to tell you in front of

484
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:07.039
their buddies. They're going to wait
till they can pull you aside and then

485
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.199
they'll take you and tell you the
story. So that's how we get a

486
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:14.840
lot of these reports up in some
of these regions. Pennsylvania is a different

487
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:16.480
way of life. You know,
we're very rural in the central part.

488
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:20.880
It's not just Pittsburgh and it's not
just Philly. There's this, you know,

489
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:25.800
millions of acres in between that makes
up Pennsylvania. Gorgeous beautiful wilderness where

490
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:30.320
people respect the outdoors, and they
like their hunting, they like their fishing,

491
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:36.159
and so much of that is,
you know, untapped in terms of

492
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.639
getting these sighting reports. The last
ten years, maybe we've had an increase

493
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:44.800
in influx and reports, but there's
still so much out there that's not been

494
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:47.440
told that Matt and I really want
to capture. And we don't want to

495
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:51.679
capture to be greedy. We just
want the damn data. We want to

496
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.320
know when we can deploy so we
could be a lot more efficient in the

497
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:58.559
work that we're doing. And we
need it. Folks, if you're out

498
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:00.440
there listening and you had an encounter
her, you're out there listening and you

499
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:04.559
had a friend who had an encounter, put up her shut up, get

500
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.039
him out here to us so we
can talk to him and get the information.

501
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:12.000
We need it to stay viable.
We have to have it to continue

502
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:14.639
to be smart. So go ahead, Matt, I'll let you finish off

503
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:16.800
my little die dribe there, no, no, Well, I just want

504
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:20.880
to add to that is and you
know we touched on it right after the

505
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.400
break. You mentioned Amy Boo.
And the one thing is is I give

506
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:30.280
her all the credited the world for
what she's doing. She's actually going out

507
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:36.519
to these sportsmanships and setting up the
table and you know, having you know,

508
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:42.000
building that relationship with witnesses and you
know, and she's very appropriate.

509
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:49.000
She's such a lovely person, but
she's so approachable, so I think people

510
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.800
would just feel more comfortable talking to
her. I think maybe it's the you

511
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:54.559
know, she was a teacher and
everything, so she she knows how to

512
00:40:55.199 --> 00:41:00.840
you know, work with different personalities
and such. But she is such a

513
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.400
great people person and you know,
having her out at these shows, that's

514
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.840
where you're getting you know, the
people you know, such as the ones

515
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:13.800
that we're talking about that you know
aren't aren't sister and talked about, you

516
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.320
know, exactly, you know,
to their friends that you know they they

517
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:22.159
may have seen something peeking behind a
tree or the vocalization, but maybe for

518
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.960
you know, again, someone who
who's like that, they can come out

519
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:34.000
and talk to her. So right, for our podcast listeners, Pilot Island

520
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:38.039
Research never ask anyone if they've had
a big foot encounter. Instead, ask

521
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:43.000
them if they've had experiences in the
wild they couldn't find a natural explanation for,

522
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:45.039
and let them find their way into
the confilm. And that's a hell

523
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:50.599
of a good point. Actually,
you and I were talking about that yesterday

524
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:55.199
in terms of this overall new project
we're working on that we're trying to leave

525
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:01.480
the sasquatch out of it in order
to attract a wider audience, folks who

526
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:07.400
may have had some sort of wilderness
phenomena with any kind of animal that they'd

527
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:13.079
like to share with us. And
when you take away that that the Olympic

528
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:16.039
Project philosophy right right now, we
were talking about, nowhere is bigfoot in

529
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:21.119
the Olympic Project philosophy, you know
in the name, and you take that

530
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:25.119
away, you're a hell of a
lot more liable to probably get more results.

531
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:30.159
So great, great point there,
Pine Island Research, Thank you so

532
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:34.679
much for posting that. Yes,
very good info right there. Do you

533
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:37.920
do you think maybe the reason there's
also not as many settings is because a

534
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:42.880
lot of the people that are out
there are hunters and fishermen, and so

535
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:46.320
when they hear something bigger than they
are looking for or could handle, they

536
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:50.800
kind of move on quicker. They
don't, you know, hang out,

537
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.400
like if they from a disc.
Like when we were out in the Ordinance

538
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:58.960
we heard what could be a small
animal coming towards us. It was a

539
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:01.920
skunk at one point. But the
fact was, if we would have felt

540
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:06.480
it was a bear or something larger, we would have moved on quicker than

541
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:09.119
to wait to see what it is, you know. And the one that

542
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:12.920
are these people are to say,
Okay, I hear a lot of this

543
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:15.199
over here, and I hear a
lot of trees getting snapped and whatever,

544
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.960
and I'm here for deer. I'm
not here to get mulled by a bear

545
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.679
now, and they move on.
Well. The other thing, too,

546
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:28.519
is being a hunter. If I'm
out in the woods and I'm in a

547
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.880
spot and you know, I'll you
know, we'll we'll talk a little bit

548
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:37.280
about the area that we were at. Specifically yesterday when I was changing up

549
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:43.079
my trail camera position. Was if
I see a spot there where I see

550
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:46.440
all sorts of deer sign but there's
no deer, is something chasing it away,

551
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:50.440
you know, and I'm not going
to sit there and you know,

552
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:52.880
and yeah, I might sit there
and say, oh, you know what,

553
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:54.159
maybe it's gonna come by, you
know, first thing in the morning,

554
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:57.239
or it's gonna come by it,
you know, right before dusk.

555
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.800
But if I'm seeing all this deer
sign, but there's no year around,

556
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.800
I'm probably going to go somewhere else, you know, and try to go

557
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.960
to where the deer are, you
know, and it could be that you

558
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:12.159
know, something you know earlier had
had scared them away or and I and

559
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:15.360
I'll tell you that I'm definitely guilty
of that. Where we've been out,

560
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:20.119
you know, hunting in that general
area, and we've seen area that on

561
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:22.119
paper is like, you know,
that's the place you want to be,

562
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:27.880
you know, because there's you know, there's food sources nearby, there's cover

563
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:30.519
nearby, there's places. And we
didn't see a thing, you know,

564
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:34.840
not to say that there was anything
chasing them away. It was probably hunters,

565
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.400
you know, but right, but
we didn't stick around, you know,

566
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:42.199
so we're just going to get up
and go somewhere else. But we

567
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.880
did find a great area with a
lot of deer sign And one thing that

568
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:51.360
that kind of shocked me was it
was right up at the at the very

569
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:55.199
edge of the ridge and literally when
you walked over to the ridge and you

570
00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:00.199
look down, it was almost like
a canyon. I mean it was Sean

571
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:05.400
could could tell you, man,
there was no way we were we were

572
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.280
first either you know, walking we
wouldn't walk down there, like you would

573
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:12.440
literally have to slide you know,
down there and there's no way to get

574
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:19.360
up. But yes, yes,
you would need a ladder. Yes.

575
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:24.840
But what I found was we had
you know, the in other people talked

576
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:29.159
about, like you know, the
gas lines and in the power lines and

577
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:32.119
everything. What we had was and
this is one thing that you know I

578
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:37.760
kind of marked my observations with yesterday, was we didn't see as much sign

579
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:44.119
along the you know, along the
gas line or the edges adjacent to it.

580
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:47.679
Well, we actually found was about
i'd say one hundred and fifty yards

581
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:52.599
away was the edge of the was
the edge of the ridge. We actually

582
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:54.719
saw more sign that was over towards
the other edge of the ridge than we

583
00:45:54.760 --> 00:46:00.639
saw that was closer to to that
particular area. So thing to kind of

584
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:02.679
keep an eye on when when we're
out there, you know, I may

585
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:07.280
end up moving the uh the trail
cam at some point closer to that ridge

586
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:12.199
area. But we'll see how we
do. But we'll go into the into

587
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:19.800
the trackway. So again Sean was
just uh, super observant and yes,

588
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:23.559
eagle eyed, and and there was
a couple of impressions that we saw but

589
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:30.480
unfortunately we had so much Uh there
was actually a sleep that was coming down,

590
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:32.199
so it covered a lot up a
lot. There was a lot of

591
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:37.119
leafy material. But there was one
or two impressions like, you know,

592
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:42.559
this could be something and may not
be anything. But he found this trackway

593
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:45.639
and on page again, like you
know, if you looked at it,

594
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:52.119
you know, just you know,
seeing where these prints were like, oh

595
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:57.599
my god, this thing has a
stride and it's dipping. You know,

596
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.559
it's you know, breaking the surface. I'm a pretty big guy and I

597
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:05.519
would really wasn't breaking the surface all
that much. But whatever this was,

598
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:09.239
I mean, you know, the
impression was probably at least a maybe three

599
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:13.599
quarters of an inch, you know, compared to what a little depth.

600
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:22.000
Yeah, so we're looking at it, but what we're noticing and again,

601
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:25.519
if you if you just kind of
keeps looking at that, at those particular

602
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:29.719
impressions, you're going to say,
oh my god, man, this this

603
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:32.639
does look you know, like like
it could be something maybe about eleven inches

604
00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:37.000
or so in length, maybe a
little more. You couldn't really tell if

605
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:44.119
there was toes because it was going
on a slight decline. But but as

606
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:50.159
we got closer what we What we
noticed was it appeared that there was just

607
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.840
in the way that trackway was.
It appeared that it would have been made

608
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:58.559
by something with four four legs as
opposed to two. Yeah, and the

609
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:01.639
width on it was starting to get
pretty pretty wider than they were long.

610
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:05.320
And I said that, and I
think we've got a bear. I don't

611
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.840
think we have a big fun we
have a bear. Okay. So I

612
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:12.880
have a question to throw to the
two of you. Yes, what you

613
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:16.440
brought up earlier, what do you
believe has a higher population? Would it

614
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:22.440
be deer or elk in that area? You know what? It's it's funny

615
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:27.000
because if you ask any hunters are
going to say there's a lot more elk

616
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.400
out there than deer, because you
always end up seeing elk rather than deer.

617
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:34.719
But the deer population is actually,
uh, you know, pretty de

618
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:43.119
the of the elk hurt out,
okay, and those yes, So,

619
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:47.880
as far as a bipedal creature quote
unquote, a deer would be easier to

620
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:53.440
take down than an elk. Oh
absolutely absolutely okay, And especially uh,

621
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:58.920
especially coming up in the next like
month or two, you're you're gonna start

622
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:04.519
having a fawn strung and that is
that is the number that's like one of

623
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:08.559
the number one feeds for your your
carner. You know, well you're through

624
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:16.400
some air ye brat ye yes,
very vulnerable. So so yeah, they're

625
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:21.079
a nice tasty meal for them.
But anyways, even though they look cute.

626
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:24.480
But going back to the princes and
like, you know, we took

627
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:28.400
some pictures and they're not not great, but you know, we got to

628
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:31.480
see where the trackway was and and
you know, again looking at things,

629
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:36.119
you know, not just centering in
on that, you know, each single

630
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:37.440
print, but kind of looking at
the area as a whole, we were

631
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:43.880
able to make that determination. The
one thing I'm gonna say though, is

632
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:50.880
Okay, this was made by a
bear. However, this bear made that

633
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:58.920
impression that deep mm hmm. So
this bear that was coming through Now again

634
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:02.440
we're in Pennsylvania. We have some
very large black bears. I'm gonna make

635
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:07.280
a rough estimate here. I'm gonna
say anywhere from four hundred to six hundred

636
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:13.440
pounds. Wow, that was a
monster. Yeah, that was a yeah.

637
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.840
And even even where I live here
in northeastern PA, I'm on kind

638
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:20.760
of the other side of the state, but I'm still in the in the

639
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:23.920
mountainous region. We've had beers that
were I think the biggest bears were in

640
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:29.559
the seven hundred pounds range. Wow
up here crazy Yeah. Yeah. And

641
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:32.519
the thing is we couldn't. You
couldn't photograph them to save your life.

642
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:37.320
They were terrified in terms and I
tried different angles, I tried all kinds

643
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:40.639
of ways to photograph them. You
couldn't even really put anything up next to

644
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:45.880
it to scale it. Yeah,
you could definitely with the eye delineate a

645
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:51.480
clear print in terms of being there, just with the leaf litter and the

646
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:57.559
impressions. It just Yes, it
worked for a foot but at no point,

647
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.239
I don't think at any point,
Matt, we really thought we were

648
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:02.280
looking at was a big footprint.
I think we knew it was some course

649
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:07.199
sort of animal. Yes, but
it definitely it was a good exercise yesterday.

650
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:13.119
But it's just to the point that
in PA you don't get really good

651
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:20.159
footprint castings because of the environment.
Correct. So I know in in you

652
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:22.920
know, the Western United States,
they have different soil compositions. You know,

653
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:27.920
you look at uh, you know, you know. Henry can probably

654
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.400
fill us in on a little more
of like how how Bluff Creek was you

655
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.559
know, with in terms of the
soil, you know, like that muddy

656
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:39.360
sandy soil that that's excellent for you
know, for casting prints. But man,

657
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:45.280
up here it's rocks and leaves and
everything else. And if we're lucky,

658
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:50.760
we might get some mud, you
know. But yeah, unluck there's

659
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:53.679
along a river bank or something,
right, yes, yet, Yeah,

660
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:58.000
but we were looking at those two
like yesterday, we didn't really rule out

661
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:02.119
anything that there. There wasn't a
visual place that we didn't try to at

662
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:08.000
least go somewhere and look for some
sort of evidence or some sort of It

663
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:12.239
was a really good day. It
was a great day of discovery and exploration,

664
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.800
and we really had a besides the
you know, the friendship and the

665
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:20.480
you know camaraderie, which is always
a good time, you know, just

666
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:24.239
being out there and exploring this place
was really cool. And we've got i

667
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:28.760
mean without I don't want to give
away too much, but Matt and I

668
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.159
got some pretty big projects coming along
that this area is going to be our

669
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:37.480
focal point for said projects. And
I'm very pleased with what we got yesterday.

670
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.440
I really am. And Baker,
you've been there so Bake, you

671
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:45.719
know this place you guys make one
valid point as though as you went in

672
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:52.760
to look for evidence of signs of
things you didn't do. And we've had

673
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:57.599
this, I've had this rant many
times about the circlers and the other things.

674
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:01.000
Is but like you didn't walk into
the wan to go this must be

675
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:08.360
a bigfoot track. Okay, I
have a track. Okay, what is

676
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:12.119
it? Okay, well, Mac
goes, it's gonna be that much weight

677
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:15.280
because look how it presses. You
use science and trigonometry and all stuff in

678
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:19.440
math, all the things that people
said you'd never use every day, but

679
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:22.639
you do. You don't notice it, and you used all those to beverifyd

680
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:27.039
down to Okay, I've got it
down to it's not a deer, but

681
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.719
it's not an elk. It's got
a wave of a bear. The way

682
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:35.119
the gate is, it could be
a bear. Without seeing the bear.

683
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:42.159
You're seventy five percent sure it's a
bear, and you're one hundred percent sure

684
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:46.320
is not a saucequatch because you're using
math and science instead of it's got to

685
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:52.000
be a sausquatch. Correct. And
that's where that's where me and Schohn have

686
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:59.400
always been on that same page of
let's figure out what it isn't and narrow

687
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:04.079
down what could be. Well,
somebody well in and go, yeah,

688
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:06.639
that's a prayer, that's going to
be it. Let's go cast that sucker,

689
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:09.000
go sell them for fifty bucks piece. No, if you were with

690
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:14.000
us yesterday, I think you would
have appreciated the amount of humor. Yes,

691
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:16.800
and I put into that very thing
you're talking about, because we ran

692
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:22.840
into this tree fall, made a
perfect ex formation. We took some photos

693
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:28.000
with it to be smart, but
like it. To the conversation we were

694
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:31.400
having, Matt was saying, like, to somebody who's a romantic, this

695
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:35.719
is here's a tree fall, this
is perfect tree book, right, And

696
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:38.960
so we had to go through and
take our pictures and just kind of do

697
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:43.400
our due diligence and have a little
fun with it. But in doing so,

698
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:46.559
you know, like you said,
Baker, we really try to use

699
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:52.320
the science based approach to what we're
doing. Eliminate the possibilities and the potentialities

700
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:55.599
of what it could be or what
it can't be, and nine times out

701
00:54:55.599 --> 00:54:58.760
of ten you're going to drive to
the right answer. I don't think there's

702
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:00.800
any question you say seventy I think, Matt and I tell you, we're

703
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:06.840
one hundred percent there. So I
was just guesstimating with the existence. But

704
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:09.719
like you didn't like to sit there
and take fourteen pictures in the circle listening

705
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:14.039
where it must have. You know. It's kind of like when we went

706
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.880
we first came on the mind land. We had a formation and you could

707
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:21.199
see where the two trees were growing
and the other trees. The wind blew

708
00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:24.400
over and made the formation. But
like we had the same conversation in a

709
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:31.159
bar after an Ohio Bickfoot conference.
And this gentleman as Barrickman, isn't it

710
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:36.320
he was he was talking to Cliff
Barrickman. He wasn't talking to Cliff.

711
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:38.519
He was preaching the Cliff, like
Marco, this has gotta be. And

712
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:45.159
Cliff said, the one thing that
it's stuck in my head more than anything

713
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:49.480
else is he goes, you can't
prove it's a bigfoot unless you saw him

714
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.440
do it. Then he may have
said more eloquently, but that was the

715
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:58.159
core, you know. And I'm
amazed I remembered anything him that night because

716
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:02.480
that Cargill was huge. Well,
like it's this guy was not like saying

717
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:06.760
this could be a big for this. He was preaching, like if you

718
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:09.519
if you were across the room,
you could hear this gentleman, and then

719
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:14.800
like it blew silent. When Cliff
said that, everybody was like, yeah,

720
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:16.559
just shut up, dude, because
like you, if you didn't see

721
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:22.239
him do it, it doesn't it's
not a it's not this, you know.

722
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:24.880
Like I go out to my land, I know there's been deer all

723
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:30.599
over my pumpkin patch because I see
pellets and I see footprints. I'm ninety

724
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:35.440
deer, you know. But until
I see the gear that made the pellets

725
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:37.559
and made for I can't pick which
one it was, or I can't be

726
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:42.199
on to prevent you know. By
the way, later on that night,

727
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:46.960
I found James Baker face down in
a fire pit and we called him Cinderella.

728
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:54.599
Yeah, Henry, we've all monopolized
this hour. You have any thoughts

729
00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:59.519
Do you have any thoughts for us, Henry tonight and everything we've talked about

730
00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:02.760
to get you a little sound piece
on here because we've been greedy, sorry,

731
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:08.039
Henry, mm hmm. It's good
that you guys did the due diligence

732
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:21.960
and maybe said that that no it
you eliminated everything. You literally all the

733
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:30.199
possibilities bigfoot last. That's what you
guys put it is. It was big

734
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:37.280
How much time do you think could
be saved if people would adopt that philosophy?

735
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:47.760
Oh my gosh, A lot of
the time arguments said that comment last.

736
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:52.599
I really like that. That's the
first time I've heard that, and

737
00:57:52.719 --> 00:58:02.239
really like analogy. I like that. That's awesome when it comes to evidence,

738
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:07.039
it's bigfoot last, bigfoot last.
I like that. Folks, you've

739
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:10.400
been listening to the Sasquatch experience.
I'm Sean Forker. You can find me

740
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:15.559
everywhere on social media. I'm my
name at Sean Forker, Vance working.

741
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:19.920
Folks find you. They can find
me wherever. They can find me right

742
00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:25.480
here in my living room, but
on Instagram and on Facebook Vance a nezvit.

743
00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:30.119
So yeah, I'm pretty easy to
find and the A stance for asshole

744
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:36.760
Matt work and yes, find you
Matt Mickey Arner on Facebook, Cryptic Wilderness

745
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:43.440
and on uh basically Facebook and sometimes
on Twitter. And we do have a

746
00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:47.800
new project that'll be coming out soon, so I'll keep you posting. Stay

747
00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:52.119
tuned for more. James. Why
don't you take books? I can find

748
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.440
you if you want them to Well, if you're not at the post office,

749
00:58:54.599 --> 00:59:00.800
you can always check. You can
James next Facebook, or you can

750
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:05.719
try. I have a new project
I've been working on for a whiles Lot

751
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:08.639
five six to land. It comes
to stuff I've been doing on the site.

752
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:14.440
Hendrick, Henry shush and is girl
Henry go ahead? Tell them where

753
00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:20.320
folks can find you, Henry May
on Facebook. Connect with us, Folks.

754
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:23.079
We're socially active and we want to
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755
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:29.119
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756
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757
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:38.119
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you for listening. Henry take us

758
00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:43.400
out with those dulcet tones. You'all
be good or be good at it.

759
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:53.199
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760
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