EP 92: Stalked by Sasquatch

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what are you putting? Uh? We

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got some one or something frawing around
out here? Does a legend walk among

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us working in the forests of our
world? Did you see what it was?

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Was it a person or an animal? Or I can't go if if

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I know that my thunder light came
on and I did that A to glimp

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and see this thing running across the
yard, A good fight man or something

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works like a man. I don't
know what it was. For over fifteen

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years, we've talked with scientists,
researchers, investigators, and witnesses trying to

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gain insight and proof around the existence
this mysterious entity. Jesus care, Hello,

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get somebody out here. What's going
to announce there? At ABC about

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six four nine? I don't know, easy announce there? Yes, I'm

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looking right over. Oh, okay, hand on her, Yeah, got

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it's bigger? Okay, what's he
doing in your yard? We're gonna move

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you join us as we continue into
the investigation of the Sasquatch Experience. And

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good evening everyone, once again,
welcome to the Sasquatch Experience. Sewn Fork

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Or James Baker, Henry May,
and Vanced Nesbitt. Matt Arner out tonight

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under the weather, and we wish
Matt just all the best and feeling better.

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He's got a rough one out there
the next few days, so we

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just want him to get better and
we're thinking of you, buddy, get

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better soon. Somewhere along the line
we have Vance Nesbitt there is co host

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the announcer. Guys, we had
a great show last week and we're going

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to continue the discussions this week.
This week's episode Stalked by Sasquatch, we're

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going to talk about some interesting stories
and accounts that we've pulled from either cases

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I've investigated or some stories we found
online to talk about. And there's also

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a video that Matt wanted to play
that I think we're going to go ahead

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and play. And I don't know
if it'll get us in any hot water

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with copyrights, but I'll be damned
we're gonna do it anyhow. So,

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gentlemen, how are you tonight?
Baker will start with you then hanging Advance,

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I'm good. Been a fall in
a week is always good, you

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know, it's better than a liquid
and with you, definitely better than a

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gas. So I asked us to
make all three forms. And how about

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it, Henry? How you doing
over there, Bud? I'm doing well,

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and we are digging out from all
the snow and ice that we had,

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and we are Our snow is melting. Actually even as we speak,

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terms have gotten above freezing, so
that's a plus. We're doing much better

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with that. The road, the
roads are clear and everything, so everybody's

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able to get out and about well. Henry, you live down in Mississippi,

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and people that may not know this, you know, it's a different

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situation. When you get the winter
precipitation down there. You're not quite as

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prepared for it as US Yankees are
up here, you know, right,

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and when you get it, it's
it's a little bit more difficult. So

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glad you're doing well down there,
buddy, And Vance? How are you

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doing the night? Wow? This
is like sass Wuatts weather talk. How

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about it, qu trainy, We're
supposed to get about a quarter inch of

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ice, so yeah, yeah,
I mean, other than that precipitation striking

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tonight, stock by a Sasquatch.
You know, there's a lot of behaviors

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out there right that we can attribute
to Bigfoot, and you know, I

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think the frightening aspect though of it
for me is that feeling of being watched

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or feeling of being followed when you're
in the woods and not having a rational

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explanation for it, not being able
to turn around and see what's around you,

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so on and so forth. And
so that kind of was the premise

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for this episode. It wasn't to
elicit fear, to make it seem like

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a horror movie serial killer Bigfoot,
but to really start getting some emphasis on

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the behaviors that people are noticing and
the stalking behavior is not unusual, and

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did you guys have any thoughts on
it? Go ahead, Henry, what's

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your thoughts on the whole stalking situation. Well, you know, I've read

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so many accounts of individuals have been
in the woods and they don't necessarily see

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anything, but they hear something off
to the side, paralleling thing. It's

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some thing, it's walking on two
feet. So my my thing with the

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stalking is as much as you have
to look at it at the angle,

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what is the bit? What is
the sasquatch getting out of it? I

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mean, are you a food source? Is he interested? Are you in

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his territory or her? You know, use where a pronoun works with you,

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you know. But the thing is
like that's where I that's where I

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have the thing because like I'm not
talking about a habituation or blah blah blah.

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I'm talking about just I'm in the
woods working on my greenhouse, okay,

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and I hear a noise. You
know what that whatever that thing is,

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what value is staring at me or
watching what I'm doing? Am I

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threatening them? Or do they more
curious? Or am I a food source?

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You know? I mean, And
that's where I think we have to

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look at is that, you know, if these things are continually happening in

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one area, then maybe we should
not be there. We're the only thing.

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I always kind of took it as
you're in my living room, you

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need to leave my living room.
Well, I don't know, because here's

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the thing with my thoughts, I'm
thinking of thinking of us as a food

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source, all right, a big
There would be more reports of violent activity

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if that was the case, and
I think there would be a lot more

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missing people if that was also the
case now, And that's accurate, right.

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So one of the hardest parts about
doing this show was deciphering the creepy

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pastas from the legitimately reported accounts.
You know, the more sensational the story,

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the more incredible it is, the
more people tune in, Which is

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why even kind of titling the show, I had a little trepidition because I

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didn't want it to be You want
it to be a tension grabbing, but

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you don't want it to be offensive, and you don't want it to be

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catch you know, you want it
to be true to form, you know,

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and there's shows out there that you
know, Sasquat Chronicles and others that

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do a very good job chronicling some
of these really scary situations. But how

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do we blend the world of research
and these stories of fright and concern,

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you know, something a little bit
more relevant to what we do. And

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it's hard because you don't want to
minimize someone's experience, right, You don't

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want to know take away from their
emotional reaction all this, And it's easy

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to write that off and say,
man, this is so sensational, it

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has to be it has to be
fake. Sometimes a real sensational story is

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a real sensational story, and I
think there's some merit. You just have

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to have good blinders and does the
rest of the story make sense. So

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when I was doing this and looking
at some of these, I don't know

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if it was a complete success,
but there's definitely a It was hard,

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I guess is my point to put
myself in the shoes of the people that

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experience it, but then also want
to be able to have some sort of

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discernment as to if these events really
took place. Well, I think that

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when you say that that's accurate,
And not to rego over the point I

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already made was I think a lot
of these experiences you have to look at

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the individual and you also have to
look at how the story melts because a

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lot of times when someone's either making
something up or truly believes it without any

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real happening, the story changes and
they get more frightened or angry when you

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talk to them, you know,
like you know, like oh, no,

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no, no it it didn't come
through the back door. It always

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comes through the front door. Okay. Well, you know when you ask

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a question like okay, so your
house faces this way, how far from

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the or with just seven hundred you
know, it's just you know, like

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I can understand basic mistakes, like
you know, if you explained, if

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I explained to you what I did
yesterday, I could give you. But

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then if you ask me for the
story again, I would fill in little

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fillers that I remembered as I told
the story. Birth not sure, but

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when you questioned me, and this
is where maybe Matt would come in.

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When you questioned me, my core
story doesn't change, and I'm not afraid

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to tell you what I think because
if I'm making it up, then I

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have to go back in the back
of my head going Okay, it's got

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to still sound plausible, but I
can't seem noths so I canna find that

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happy meeting, you know, compared
to I had cheap yesterday. You know,

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yeah, I think there's always a
little bit of embellishing. You want

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to put in the story to make
it entertaining, and you want people to

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stay captivated and pay attention. You
know, Baker Laura is always correcting me

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when I'm telling a story. She's
like, what doesn't happen though I'm telling

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the story. Shut up, let
me let me do that. You do

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that? Yeah too, Yeah,
Like, listen, it's a little bit

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more interesting when you tell it this
way. It's not a lie. It's

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just embellished. We were down south, we were in Tennessee. Like,

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okay, yeah, be specifics.
Well, it's the details that people are

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listening for in the story. That's
why you want to put as many details

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in without being drolled and boring.
But you want to be able to craft

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the tail out of it. I
mean, you could take you you have

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a habit of kind of living giving
cliff notes, I have a habit of

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you knowing and the meat and potatoes, right, which is not always a

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bad thing. But so let's take, for instance, guys, in the

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fall of seven, I got an
email from a lady in a local town,

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not the same town I live in, but pretty close by. It

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is really when I just started the
research solo, when I started going out

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with the PA Bigfoot Society, I
kind of had credentials, do you know

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what I mean. And the incident
took place in September of that year.

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And while this lady was out riding
her bike on a road, both sides

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of the road is wooded, and
she does this quite often, So this

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isn't a new activity for our witness
and ignore is this location kind of not

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this type of location uncommon in our
county, Baker. You and I can

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go down many roads in this area
and they're completely wood covered on both sides.

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In fact, if you didn't have
a mailbox half the time, you

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wouldn't know somebody lived behind him or
in those woods. Yep. And the

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dirt road right and as she was
riding her bicycle, she couldn't escape the

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feeling of being followed by something and
it really bothered her. And it wasn't

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something she had when she's, like
I told you, she did this many

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times. It's not something she experienced
before while riding her bike. Now,

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the interesting thing about this is on
the right side of the road down there's

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the road kind of the guardrail underneath
that is a little lower plateau area.

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So the road drops down and it's
flat, and you still have those wooded

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tree lines on the sides, and
she felt like there was something, you

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know, really paying attention to her
on that side of the tree lines.

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Now she's going she feels like this
thing still following her. She's being paralleled

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by it. At one point,
in fact, she says, she said

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to me, as she slowed the
stop, she could hear movement in the

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tree line just out of sight.
She kept turning her head to see if

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someone was falling, but there was
nothing in her field of view. And

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as you know, she notates the
right side of the road had to drop

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off and more decent cover. As
she's going on, a rock was tossed

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out of the woods and it landed
not far off from where she was riding

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her bicycle. Well, that kind
of put her in mode, and she

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starts taking off, and then she
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line kind of paralleling her, and
it followed her and followed her until she's

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like, well, I don't want
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she kind of stops and belines it
and takes another trail. Really scared the

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hell out of this lady. As
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She pedled on. She finally got
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her home. Not long after that
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can from her property, moved the
garbage can down towards the end of her

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property, and took the garbage out
of her garbage can, but did it

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in a way where it was something
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them down and not ripped it apart, not violently apart, No, just

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moved it themselves so cumulatively. She
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day, maybe it's followed her more
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know where she lived and decided to
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her garbage. Now, she never
reported anything violent happening aside from that rock

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throwing. She did inevitably report some
strange sounds. She couldn't explain. I

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never found any footprints or anything in
that area. But you know, we

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know that area very well baked,
and it wouldn't be out of the realm

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of possibility. And historically there's been
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lady's location. It's not in town, it's on the outskirts of town.

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rural. So like even though you
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one seven seven oh one carries a
wide ZIP code, just like Moncy

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Valley, you know that area.
Really the zip yeah, that zip code's

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quite you know large. So sometimes
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get these reports, you're reading them
and you let, well, postally,

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this is your address, but you
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well, yeah, that might sound
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you hear what Williams Sport or whatnot. You think, my god, this

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is right in the center of town, till you look at a map and

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realize, well, you know,
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and we're surrounded by woods, and
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woods. So it was an interesting
story. It's one of the first cases

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I found her to be a very
sincere witness. But that bicycle riding and

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how it followed her, I mean
that went on for minutes. It wasn't

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just a quick, quick encounter.
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ten, twelve minutes, that she
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the rock throwing and that really scared
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it was really interesting. I mean
just her reaction to it, you could

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tell she was genuine and it was
a scary kind of behavior. Especially you

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know, you're first of all this
day and age, even back then,

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you know, being a woman,
I'm sure you're always more guarded than you

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know, maybe some of us are
than more outriding our bicycles, but you

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know, you know, have a
feeling of something. She never indicated that

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she saw anything, but just movement, like something moving. So that was

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the other thing that you know,
you really can't put your fingers on.

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Could it have been. It could
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but the rock throwing and then her
garbage being moved later was just pretty

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fascinating to me. And we've been
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The other thing when I draw parallels
to that behavior, I go back,

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you know, are the folks and
we talked about the Cook County creature here

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last year, and these folks lived
out in the middle of nowhere, mister

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and missus A, and she had
her sighting took place with you know,

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she looking down at the edge of
her deck and her dog stopped and she's

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out looking and she sees that large
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and taking her garbage out there too. So, you know, I start

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putting behaviors together. That first sighting
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you know, mister and missus A
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interesting how even in your own research, you can start picking out some behavioral

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things or draw some conclusions in comparison
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well, the only thing, the
only there's only two things that can throw

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rocks in the woods, and it's
us and sasquatch. So thumb, I'm

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gonna throw rocks, right, posible
thumb exactly, man's so process of elimination.

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It was either a human or a
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Right. I questioned the thumb theory
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Like what's the point of a raccoon
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You know what I mean? There
are animals that could grasp small stones

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and throw them. But the mental, the mental the mental square to oh

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if I throw this object at something
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know, well, you know,
I also think there's the thought that everything

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sounds larger in the woods as it's
out walking around, right, Baker,

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we found out firsthand, like,
but you know, many a times it

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sounds like something large stomping around in
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skunk or you know something. So
when your mind is in a place and

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you're putting yourself in that mental space
that what you think is happening is happening,

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you start convincing yourself that that's the
case, and you start you don't

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start thinking about other alternatives that could
be more you know, rational than you

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expect. Sure, so that was
the you know, like, it's interesting

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of that because that came from my
uh that came from my own research collection,

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and that was the first one that
I had that kind of I would

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call, you know, stalking behavior. I know, Matt had a video

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he wanted to play and I got
it queued up. We'll play that after

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the break. Did you guys have
anything wanted to talk about before we jump

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into commercials, because we're already at
that twenty two minute already. Wow,

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nice advance. There is a great
documentary by Small Town Monsters, which is

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The Hunter Becomes the Hunted. And
I'm not going to give too much away

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in that documentary, but I encourage
everybody watcher and listeners to watch that there

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is without giving too much information away
because I don't want to do spoiler alerts.

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But it's very enthrawling. But there
is a portion of a witness encounter

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that had three different experiences with what
is presumably a bigfoot, but prior to

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his personal experience, he called back
before all of this when he was a

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child. This is in West Virginia
and a school bus driver was doing the

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route. The bus was empty,
made the first stop in West Virginia to

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pick up the kids. The kids
were not at the stop yet, and

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the bus driver is a woman,
and she heard these horrible noises from the

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woodline and saw the preacher come out
of the woodline and jump on top of

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a school bus that she's driving.
Now, a school bus is ten foots

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picked inches high. I did not
know the specific terrain, but to be

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able to jump on top of a
school bus. She freaked, she lost

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it, she freaked, she hit
the gash. She left that bus stop,

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there were no kids at the stop
yet, and she drove directly back

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to the school bus depot. Quit
her job immediately because she didn't know if

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this creature was still on top of
the school bus or not. Who goes

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to it becomes the hunted buy small
town monsters. You'll give a little bit

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more of the detail of that story. And then the individual who's telling the

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story was a child at the time
who was going to make his way to

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the school bus stop. And of
course the bus isn't there, and norwi

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the creature at that time. But
I've posted the hair race. I posted

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the links from something like that happening, not knowing if it's still on top

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of the bus, all the thoughts
going through your mind as you're heading back

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to the school bus depot. What's
going on? That's crazy. I posted

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the links for the listeners day so
they could go check it out. I

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didn't put it in twitch. I
guess I'll put that link there out that

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way so people can see, Hey, you know what, We're everywhere,

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We're everywhere. I just couldn't imagine
experiencing that type of situation where you know

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you're just going about a normal thing, all of a sudden, it's a

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burd it's a plane, it's a
sasquatch leaving bounding from round to bus,

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and it's like there's something on the
wing. There's something on the bus.

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See. There has been the testimonial
from a police officer in a remote area

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who was looking to stop these young
teams from drag racing down this rural road,

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and so he parked in a little
off bank whatever in the woods so

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that he could keep an eye on
the roadway. And as he's sitting there,

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this thing comes up and looks in
the passenger window at him, and

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he lost his mind. I don't
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That's that's it, game over.
And he said, he peeled out

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of there. This is a police
officer. He peeled out of there,

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and he could see this thing in
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squad car standing there. I'm like, well, I don't know that's that's

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being stocked by a stassquatch. But
now that gives me question, is why

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the hell didn't you get that on
a camera, a dash cam or something.

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Why wouldn't you flip that patrol Carrah, Again, you're in the moment,

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who knows. I know, it's
just it's like hindsight being what it

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is. I understand, right,
But I don't know. But that's really

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good point that you bring up on
because in the hunter becomes a hunted by

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small town monsters, that question is
brought up individual witness that actually Boss something

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was so enthralled in sock and take
him back by what he's witnessing. Yeah,

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the camera is right inside the door
of his house, and he's on

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his ports. He's got a gun, he's got a camera, he can

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record this stuff. But you're so
focused in on the situation that's happening at

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the time, those thoughts can cross
your mind. Yeah, but you almost

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think with law enforcement you're a little
bit more adept and trained to be ready

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to deal with the unexpected in the
moment, right. I mean, it's

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just you know, three times bigger
than yours. I mean, I don't

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know that my all bets are off. I don't know. But again,

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we talk about putting yourself in that
mental space. You know, it's hard

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to discern and go ahead, bake. I'm sorry, but I think that

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we're looking at this through a different
lens because the generation we have now and

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the generation before, with the cell
phone generation that and I do it.

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I can't help it. I bring
my phone everywhere. While I'm waiting on

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something, while I'm doing something else, I'm looking at my phone. I'm

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doing whatever. You know, I'm
almost creating my own ADHD just with multitasking

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with a cell phone. Well he's
doing this show. Well, sometimes I

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am, because sometimes we talk about
something real quick and it kicks in.

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I go, hey, I need
to look at this, you know,

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like what No, I quit playing
that like years ago. I'm in the

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you know way. The point,
though, is is that with this,

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with this, the way things are
now, with the cell phones and the

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iPads and all the other stuff,
is a lot of people are quick to

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pull that sucker out in video because
they want their five seconds of fame,

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or they want proof that they were
assaulted or demeaned or whatever. So I

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mean, I could see in the
near future that a lot of these sightings,

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if there may be more video evidence, just because it's a natural reflex,

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like a you know, if I
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then I feel safer, you know, like allowed to do that,

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but you know, like getting misgendered
at Arby's. How what you're talking about?

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It's Mary. All right, guys, we got to take a break.

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Who' steave a symble? I love? For realize who doesn't want to talk

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about gorilla? And then, without
thinking that my wife is sleeping, I

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just blurted out asking how much chicken
bench? Asking how my chicken bench?

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My wife like pops up, She's
like, what are you doing to look

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this? She's talking to a gorilla
and we both just got sucked into this

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sick right, So long story short, She's sitting there, she's talking to

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this gorilla, and one day she
decides to get his little kitten, little

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kitty cat right, And immediately I'm
thinking, like, don't get it a

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cat, it's a gorilla. It's
gonna twist the thing's head off, throw

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the body over there, play with
the head for a while, sniffing it

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and stuff. And then later it's
gonna walk over, set the head down

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next to the body, and wonder
why the whole thing's not getting up again

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because it's a fucking gorilla. Ah. Yes, the gentle, subtle sounds

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of Bill Burr, this is the
bigfoot bullhorn exclusively right here on the Sasquatch

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Experience and I hope you're having a
wonderful frozen Monday night. Speaking of Greta

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thumbirds, Oh dash you. An
ancient species of great ape was likely driven

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to extinction hundreds of thousands of years
ago when climate change put their favorite fruits

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out of reach during dry seasons.
According to scientists, the species Gigantopithecus Blackie,

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which once lived in southern China,
represents the largest Grade eight known to

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science, standing approximately ten feet tall
and weighing anywhere between six hundred and fifty

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pounds to one thousand pounds. But
its size may have been a weakness.

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It's just a massive animal. It's
just really, really big, said Renauld

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Jonas Boyu, a researcher at Australian
Southern Crals University and co author of the

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study published a few weeks back in
journal Nature. When food starts to become

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scarce, it's so big it can't
climb trees to explore for new food sources.

407
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The giant apes, which like resembled
more modern orangutans, survived for about

408
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:10.279
two million years in the forested plains
of China. They ate vegetation diets,

409
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:17.200
munching on fruits and flowers and tropical
forests until the environment began to change.

410
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:22.920
Researchers analyzed pollen and sediment samples preserved
in caves, as well as fossil teeth

411
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:30.519
to unravel how forests produced fewer fruits
starting around six hundred thousand years ago as

412
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the region experienced more dry seasons.
The giant apes didn't vanish quickly, though,

413
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:41.039
but likely when extinct sometime between two
hundred and fifteen thousand and two hundred

414
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:44.960
and ninety five thousand years ago.
Due to the fact that many of these

415
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giant apes drove ford explorers and humvies
changing their environment. I just made that

416
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part up. While smaller apes may
have been able to climb trees to search

417
00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:02.119
for different food, researchers analysis show
the giant apes ape more like tree bark,

418
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:09.519
reed and other nine nutrities fruit when
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this edition of the Big Football Horn
right here on the Sasquatch Experience, and

440
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as always, everybody, keep your
toe in the mind. Thanks Vans for

441
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that segment. Appreciate that keep your
toes in your own mud. I don't

442
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:16.719
want to be messing around with that
shit, folks. SaaS watch Experience Sean

443
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:21.920
Fork of James Baker, Henry May
and Vance Nesbit. We've been talking about

444
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:30.400
stalking Sasquatch tonight, witnesses either being
followed and chased or harassed by these creatures

445
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.320
or jumping on school buses. So
it's been an interesting show so far.

446
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:38.320
Guys. I have a couple more
stories that I've gotten on the web and

447
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:42.360
a video that Matt wanted me to
play, but I want to make sure

448
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:44.840
you guys get your time in.
What do you have? Oh? I

449
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.320
want to see the video. You
don't want to see the video it's from

450
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:52.320
It's from a TV show. So
we're going to test our copyright infringements here.

451
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:58.159
But you know me, I'm always
willing to push the This is not

452
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:00.280
the video in what you are looking
for. You're going to do when they

453
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.639
come for you. Let me get
this set up because I know people say

454
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:08.599
we're unprofessional and we do this.
We can talk on this video too.

455
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:13.679
The following events occurred in the Cascade
Mountains of Oregon in nineteen ninety seven.

456
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:15.960
At the time, I was fit. At the present time, I certainly

457
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:22.480
am not. I feel you,
brother, It's a diverse police force.

458
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:29.559
I was early getting off shift.
It was one of the prettiest days I

459
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:34.719
can ever remember seeing in the Cascade
Mountains. It made me want to take

460
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:42.800
a hike. Take a hike.
I didn't get shirt of for two hours

461
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:52.639
at least. It was taking a
long time because of the terrain. Gearediasis

462
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.199
if he was washing his space,
I hope not drinking that water. Decided

463
00:36:55.239 --> 00:37:00.880
to find a route that would get
me into a more open area. That's

464
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:05.599
what she said. Oh. I
looked through my compass to take that measurement.

465
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:15.800
I was totally shocked. I saw
a person standing there, but it

466
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:27.800
was clearly not a human being.
Yeah, this thing had a human like

467
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.119
shape to it and a clear place
for the eyes and the nose. In

468
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:38.440
the mouth, but it wasn't a
person. He had his eyes directly on

469
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:49.960
me. The weirdest thing happened.
I just involuntarily cocked my head to one

470
00:37:50.039 --> 00:38:00.960
side. He mimicked me exactly so
smart. I instinctively reached around to get

471
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:12.400
my weapon. He ran away so
fast it seemed impossible, certainly physically impossible

472
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:17.239
for a him. I was so
curious that I had to check it out.

473
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:24.960
I carried on walking for a while, but I was feeling a little

474
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:29.400
nervous. I wouldn't have walked better. Rund Bee for me to get back

475
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.800
to the car before dark, and
I didn't have a flashlight. Got pulled

476
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:39.239
a gun on the dark. Figure
around right, then stop it where it

477
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:47.199
is. It was as loud as
some guns when they go off. It

478
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:53.519
was a big tree. The snap
came from my right. It was impossible

479
00:38:55.199 --> 00:39:05.280
he'd circled me. The idea that
I couldn't see him, that he could

480
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:13.400
see me made me very uncomfortable.
That's just a prescription for an ambush.

481
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:23.760
That's when I heard a second.
He wasn't just watching or running away from

482
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:30.559
me. He was tracking. I
was rushing down the hill, and all

483
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:37.519
of a sudden, there is a
deer standing in front of me. She

484
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.159
snapped her head over in the direction
that I'd been watching, where the snaps

485
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:52.800
have been coming from. She smelled
the air with her head up, smelling

486
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:58.360
my drawer, and then she bolted
in the opposite direction. As fast as

487
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:06.199
I've ever seen a deer move.
I felt the hair on the back of

488
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:22.280
my neck go up. I knew
I was being watched. I was convinced

489
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:24.480
that I was going to die,
and that I was going to die in

490
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:31.119
a very bad way. When I
finally saw my car, I was hearing

491
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:37.880
snaps very close, but they weren't
frequent, and as I got real close

492
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:45.639
to the car, they stopped entirely. I remember now thinking those snaps have

493
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:52.960
stopped because he's right behind them and
he's going to grab me. Balls thoughts,

494
00:40:53.280 --> 00:41:00.840
there's thoughts, you know, there's
a couple of ideas and recollection that

495
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:07.679
comes back to me about these creatures
recognize and understand what a firearm is.

496
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:14.480
I've heard that so many different times, maybe because of past encounters over years

497
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:17.960
and years, that they understand that
there's a boomstick and it can create death.

498
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.360
And as soon as it saw a
boomstick, it took off and ran,

499
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:30.719
but once the individual out of its
territory, and again, it seems

500
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.519
like a lot of these cases,
when it's chasing you out of the territory

501
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:39.639
back to the vehicle in which you
got there, that's when they cease their

502
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:45.519
chase because they know that is an
object that you're going to get in and

503
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:50.800
you're going to vacate the area and
a mission is accomplished. So those are

504
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:54.280
my two big takeaways from that type
of story. Go ahead, Henry.

505
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:59.960
Well. One takeaway I have is
then you never call it a say,

506
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.880
aasquatch or bigfoot. They just said
it was a dark figure. They said

507
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:07.360
it was some sort of a creature
of some sort, but never said it

508
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:15.239
was a sasquatquad Well, he said, dark hairy figure. Yeah, that's

509
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:22.440
still you know, go ahead,
Yeah, still it is absolutely that's a

510
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:27.159
crappier underwear moment. Yeah, I
just I don't know. There seems to

511
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.840
be some sincerity in the story he's
telling. You know, he's again you

512
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:36.599
have to realize that he's probably in
a room telling his story. Meanwhile,

513
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:42.760
there's a production team out there creating
this, you know this the drama around

514
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:46.280
behind it, so you know,
we're getting thee And this is what I

515
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:49.480
was talking about at the beginning of
the show, Like, when you see

516
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.760
it presented in this form, it
becomes a lot more creepy, pasta ish

517
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:58.599
as opposed to a legitimate encounter,
right, because that's how it's presented.

518
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.800
It doesn't have to be. And
Baker, you made a good point there

519
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:06.719
in the chat addited version. You
know at that point you're now with the

520
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:10.280
mercy of a production company that's going
to cut up your story and just add

521
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:15.840
music to it, right, get
more dramatic. Sure, of course,

522
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:17.639
to the end of the day,
if you take that as a core story,

523
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:23.920
that's a pretty that's a pretty scary
story. Go ahead. But then

524
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:28.960
again you asked the question of is
what is the value to him to tell

525
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.199
that story to people? Like he
used to be a police officer, I'm

526
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:36.800
assessin or you know, and he
liked to hike and stuff like that,

527
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:42.639
like really honestly, like he's really
honest about It's like when I wasn't fat

528
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.360
and old, I used to walk
around a lot and at one time I

529
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:50.760
saw something and then it changed how
I do things, Which maybe that's why

530
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.159
I got fat and old, because
he stopped going as whats But like the

531
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:59.320
fact is, it's like there's no
value of him telling that story to a

532
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:02.280
bunch of people because it just makes
him look like, Hey, do you

533
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:06.719
hear Bob, did you hear don
knots the cop over there? You know

534
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.719
he's got you know, he saw
a sasquatch. Yeah, Barney Fife saw

535
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:14.320
bigfoot out in the wood last Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much.

536
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:17.280
I couldn't think of the name Barney
Fife. Yeah. Well, he didn't

537
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:22.039
take a flashlight, you know,
well, he was supposedly it was a

538
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:25.280
beautiful clear day. He didn't expect
to be out there that long. But

539
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:29.960
then he says he hiked for two
hours. I'm assessing that it was two

540
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.199
hours back to his car, unless
he was making a circle. But like,

541
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:37.519
like he had said, he'd hiked
that area before and not a problem

542
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:42.119
this particular time. You know,
always make sure you're prepared, folks.

543
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:46.480
Make sure he pulled his compass out. That's what it was, something that

544
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:49.880
the compass was interesting, you know, I don't know the story was.

545
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:52.960
Yeah, I'm sure there was a
reason Matt wanted to share it. I

546
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:54.440
wish he would have gave me his
notes so I could have read his you

547
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:59.519
know process behind why that particular video. But I think it does go into

548
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:02.480
some good behavioral pieces, you know, like you identified it, pulled the

549
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:06.679
gun out on it, and it
for some reason recognized that as threat behavior

550
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:10.119
and left. But then why did
it come back? Probably to get the

551
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:15.519
individual out of its living room,
right, And then we go back to

552
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:19.639
you know stories we've heard of other
places like we can go back. I

553
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:22.360
mentioned it last week. We're going
to talk about it again in the future.

554
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:25.840
Aw Oklahoma, that situation where they're
you know, shooting and you know,

555
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:31.119
potentially killing these these things that are
attacking the homestead, and they still

556
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:37.000
keep coming back. Right, So
again, you know, we talk about

557
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:39.519
a learned behavior. We identify the
boomstick as you and Ash like to call

558
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:43.840
it, and they know that's a
bad thing, doesn't stop them from coming

559
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:46.920
back, right, No, I
think it's taking on a different tactic.

560
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:55.360
Whatever the theory is in these creatures, intelligence level on warfare, on how

561
00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:00.360
to deal with a situation like that, who to say, you know,

562
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:06.920
I don't want to draw too many
conclusions to other creatures that are able to

563
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:10.840
communicate, you know, defensive modes, but you know, crows are able

564
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:17.119
to teach their young what specific items
are dangerous. But how are they able

565
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:22.480
to do that? And maybe Bigfoot
has that ability too, to pass this

566
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:28.480
knowledge down through the years that you
know, these other bipedal creatures, they

567
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:31.280
have this thing that they can pull
out and it can hurt or kill.

568
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:36.440
Well, they have ways, there's
forms of communication they have that we don't

569
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:39.440
utilize. And then of course,
you know with the Sasquatch, you know

570
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:45.000
we've heard bits and snippets of their
language, if that's what it truly is

571
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:50.519
from Ron moorehead vocalizations, whatever they
mean. I'm sure that's a way for

572
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.239
them to convey information out to somebody. And as we go back to a

573
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:58.159
police officer there, you know,
he felt like he was getting set up

574
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:01.199
for ambush behavior, right, an
ambush tactic. You talked about that thing

575
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:06.079
changing tactics, Well, you know, right then and there he kind of

576
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:12.440
felt it. I think we have
to look as most cryptids that we believe

577
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:17.360
exist have to have a measure of
intelligence. Otherwise we'd find them like we

578
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:22.039
do baar deer and bunnies, they'd
be everywhere, you know, there'd be

579
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:28.719
no like. At some point they
must have recognized that we were able to,

580
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:32.559
you know, be a threat to
them not decide to talk to us

581
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:37.679
any further. Because if you look
at the ancient stories the Native Americans,

582
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:42.119
some of the other ones, even
the cavemen, they had pictures of things

583
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:46.559
that seemed like agent aliens, were
hairy creatures. And the thing is is

584
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:52.639
that though at one point there must
have been a collective idea to say these

585
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:58.679
things are these these these things are
overpower or overpopulating us. We do not

586
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:02.599
want to be just exterminated by it. It seems to be afraid of us

587
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:07.320
now while we back away and kind
of hide in the woods, because otherwise,

588
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:12.840
if it's an unintelligent creature, like
I've said multiple times, then we

589
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.639
would hit them in the streets like
bear. You know, there'd be no

590
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.400
question where a body was or anything
else, because there has to be an

591
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:25.559
intelligence somewhere to allow it to not
be recognized compared to you know, compared

592
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:30.880
to an animal animal that would if
I put out a half broad chicken and

593
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.719
put a camera over it, I'm
gonna catch I'm gonna catch twenty animals grabbing

594
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.400
it. And they don't care.
They don't care cameras there, they don't

595
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.679
care that I saw them do it. But if this creature exists, then

596
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:45.039
it's intelligent, right, you know? Well there's a lot another by that,

597
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:49.360
right. I have another one here
for us guys. This one is

598
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:53.599
from Fantoms and Monsters. January fifth, twenty twenty four. Elk hunter paralleled

599
00:48:53.599 --> 00:49:00.400
and stalked by possible bigfoot near Mount
Saint Helen's. A military vet in his

600
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:04.400
back home in Washington and hunting elk
near Mount Saint Helen's. He hears some

601
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:08.559
walking in the woods, eventually realizing
that at least one bigfoot is paralleling him,

602
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:13.559
and the story goes as follows.
This experience happened to me after I

603
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.719
left the military. I was hunting
near Mount Saint Helen's, Washington. This

604
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:20.639
is my first trip back and I
wanted to get in some elk hunting.

605
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:23.320
I was so excited to be back
home and able to go hunting, which

606
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:27.719
I love. My hunting partner was
not able to go with me on this

607
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:30.599
trip, so I was going to
make a solo trip, which I've done

608
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.559
many times before. I knew the
area well enough and was prepared for what

609
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.480
it would present. I always take
at least three days worth of provisions when

610
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:42.880
hunting and survival gear in the way
of extra clothing, a poncho, matches,

611
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:46.280
firestarter, and other essential items in
my backpack. I know that many

612
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:51.239
do not take such precautions when hunting, but I do because once while hunting

613
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:53.880
I got turned around so bad.
I spent three days in the woods wishing

614
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:58.519
I had something with me other than
my gun, knife and what I was

615
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:02.199
wearing on my back. On this
trip, I was going to hunt a

616
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:07.320
power transmission line. Right away,
I parked on the logging road and walked

617
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:09.000
about a mile to where I would
sit on top of a ridge where I

618
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:13.440
would be able to watch both sides. It allowed me to be able to

619
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:16.519
have a clear shot for over four
hundred yards in either direction. I had

620
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:22.199
taken several elk in the same location
in various seasons over the years before entering

621
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:25.760
the service. I walked in before
the light and reached the spot where I

622
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:30.519
intended to hunt before the sun came
up. I was there all day and

623
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:34.199
did not see a thing. This
was highly unusual, as every other time

624
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.559
I had chosen this location I always
saw something. It was also so it

625
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:42.199
was also more quiet than I remember. For some reason, I also had

626
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.400
the feeling of being watched, but
thought it was nothing. About an hour

627
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:49.480
before dark and close to when I
would have to leave, I started to

628
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.239
hear movement to the right in the
woods. It was not the unusual It

629
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:55.760
was not the usual sound you hear
from an animal, more like someone walking

630
00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:00.639
in the woods. I thought that
maybe someone else was hunting in this area.

631
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:02.440
I took note to be careful and
not to shoot in that direction.

632
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:06.840
Shut an elk, walk out.
I never saw anyone else, but kept

633
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:09.159
having that feeling I was being watched. It's just a feeling I could not

634
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:13.880
shake. When I got up to
leave, I yelled over and said,

635
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:15.719
I'm coming out. For God's sakes, don't shoot. I said, this

636
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.360
is more of a joke. No
one said anything, and there was no

637
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:22.360
more movement from that direction. I
once again yelled a little louder, I'm

638
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:28.079
coming up, Please don't shoot.
I started walking towards the dirt road and

639
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:31.079
wandered back and forth between transmission power
lines. I thought it was funny that

640
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:36.440
whoever it was didn't call back to
say they had heard me. I got

641
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:39.559
to the road and started back to
my car, thinking that whoever it was

642
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:43.840
didn't want to make any noise to
scare any animals, as it was not

643
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:47.039
quite dark enough to stop hunting.
But for me, I felt the urge

644
00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:51.480
to leave. As I moved down
the road towards my car, the sound

645
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:54.119
of walking in the woods started again
off to my right, just inside the

646
00:51:54.159 --> 00:52:00.360
tree line. I thought that maybe
whoever it was had decided to walk out

647
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:04.239
with me. Whoever it was did
not come out of the woods, but

648
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:07.840
just kept paralleling me. I'd stop
and they'd stop. This is beginning to

649
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.239
creep me out, so I asked
them to come out where I could see

650
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:15.280
them. There is no reply.
In a louder voice, I said,

651
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:17.519
enough's enough, no more games.
Get your ass out here so I can

652
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:22.360
see you again. There was no
reply. I took my gun off my

653
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:27.199
shoulder and locked around into the chamber, keeping the gun pointed in the direction

654
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:30.320
of the area while I heard the
walking, but with my safety on,

655
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:34.679
I continued to walk to my car. When I stopped, it stopped.

656
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.920
I became worried that maybe this was
not human. I began to think that

657
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:42.199
maybe this might be a bigfoot.
I was also aware that there may be

658
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:45.840
another one on the left side of
me. I started to watch all around

659
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:49.079
me. After all, I would
rather be safe than sorry. I still

660
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:51.639
had quite a way to go to
get to my car and knew it would

661
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:53.599
be dark by the time I got
there. I started a jog so I

662
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:58.360
could possibly get there before it was
totally dark. The thing to my right

663
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:01.559
started keeping pace with me. I
could hear breaking limbs in what sounded like

664
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:06.719
small trees as it kept pace with
me. By this time, I knew

665
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:08.079
it was not a human being,
and I was almost sure it was a

666
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:12.199
bigfoot. I made it to my
car without ever seeing what it was,

667
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.920
but I wasted no time in putting
things away. I simply threw my things

668
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:17.440
in the car and got out of
there as fast as I could. Without

669
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:21.719
ever seeing it, I could tell
you it was not a bear, cougar,

670
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:24.360
bobcat, or anything else that I've
experienced in the woods. I cannot

671
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:30.199
say for sure it was a bigfoot
because of an experience years previous. I'm

672
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:36.199
more positive than not it was so
somewhere along the line he had an experience

673
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:40.800
before that. That's a pretty intense
situation, right And you know, as

674
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:45.639
we talk about the hunters and the
things they experience, and we'll get into

675
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:50.320
that in another episode, and more
of that because at a case I investigated

676
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:54.559
in twenty sixteen where the hunter I, you know, had a visual encounter.

677
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:58.960
I don't know, there's just something
more about it when a hunter gets

678
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:01.719
spoop, you know, because they
are armed, they are out in a

679
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:06.360
position, they're usually used to their
surroundings. I don't know, guys,

680
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:09.360
what are your thoughts. Yeah,
well, if you have a deer tree

681
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:15.000
stand, i'd be putting that thing
about forty feet up in a tree instead

682
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:21.960
of six. But I think that, but I think that it goes true

683
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:25.199
to what we've said a long time
ago. Is though, as he's out

684
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:29.360
in an area where there is game, he's out there for a reason.

685
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:32.719
That reconciles that the creature could be
out there for a reason. They like

686
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:37.880
them too. They just don't use
a gun, which scares me more.

687
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:45.159
Break that neck and down they go
go ahead. Henry, Well, it's

688
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:51.320
interesting that these individuals, these individuals
that you were talking about, Sean,

689
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:57.280
did not see what was paralleling.
Now. Now, the lady did not

690
00:54:57.320 --> 00:55:00.400
make any exceptions as to what it
was. But the guy, I said,

691
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:04.440
yeah, maybe be a sasquatch.
Which is interesting because you know,

692
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:07.559
I say, now, the only
other thing it might have been with another

693
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:10.280
person, and who would have known
that guy was going to be out there?

694
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:14.519
Right? And you know when I
asked the lady way back then,

695
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:17.360
why you know she reported it to
me. She just felt like there was

696
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:22.480
no other explanation after she started,
you know, looking around into what it

697
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:24.480
could potentially be. You know,
she never had that experience with a bear.

698
00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:28.920
She doubted it was another person just
because of how it was keeping pace

699
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:30.719
with her. And again, it's
the same thing that's said in that story,

700
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:35.119
keeping pace. You know, it
managed to keep up with them,

701
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:39.599
and on foot, that's not so
terrifying. But when you're on a bicycle,

702
00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:43.159
it's able to keep up with you, you know, that's a different

703
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:46.960
story, right. Yeah. I've
heard of a case too where a woman

704
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:52.000
made this report of the same thing. She was in her car on a

705
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:57.599
gravel road, so she wasn't really
driving that fast on a gravel road,

706
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:04.440
and this thing was paralleling her at
the same speed. So again, I

707
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:08.039
don't know what the point is behind
that, other than escorting you out of

708
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:12.800
their area. That's the only thing
I can see. You would think that

709
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:15.000
if it wanted to be a lot
more violent and had plenty of opportunities to

710
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:20.679
do so in that stalking behavior,
unless it's putting itself into position to learn

711
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:24.760
before it strikes. Well, that's
a good point too. Didn't think of

712
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:28.599
it that way. Well, we
don't want to think about it that way.

713
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:31.039
We don't want to think that we
can become the hunted, right And

714
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:36.599
you know, we pride ourselves as
being the top of the food chain,

715
00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:39.159
right, you know, and we're
only top of the food chain because we

716
00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:43.880
have you know, opposable thumbs,
the ability to fashion weapons, and we

717
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:49.679
have boomsticks and ovens, and yeah, I know, honestly, is something

718
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.639
evolving parallel to us that may not
be as sophisticated but may have far with

719
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:57.360
greater strength. That's a little bit
intimidating. And you know, back to

720
00:56:57.400 --> 00:57:01.320
the story you shared in the news
break with Gigantopithecus dying out. You know,

721
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:05.320
first of all, we don't know
that Bigfoot is Gigantipithecus. No,

722
00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:08.280
you know, we've always had that
assumption that it's within that lineage, but

723
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:13.079
there are many people that think it
followed more along the lines of a paranthepus

724
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:17.239
or not as massive as Giganto.
And we don't know why Giganto died.

725
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:22.960
We assume it died, but if
it was covergent with the Neanderthal, they

726
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:28.480
also think the Neanderthal killed it out
right because it and you know, with

727
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:34.119
a theory that I brought up.
You know, China and its human population

728
00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:42.000
is by far much older than the
human population in lower forty eight states of

729
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:47.559
the United States. And why would
it have been only in China that Gigantipithecus

730
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:52.960
would have existed? Well, why
not in the lower forty eight. Well,

731
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:58.440
they say that the human population wasn't
nearly as expansive as it is in

732
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:01.639
China at that time. So we
have to be very clear about something.

733
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:06.239
Vance. We don't have full fossil
of gigante. All we found is a

734
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:09.480
partial jawbone and some teeth. We
never found anything else, right, Yeah,

735
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:15.639
and we haven't found anything else here. But the environment may have been

736
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:21.599
more suitable here in the lower forty
eight where all that evidence would have been

737
00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:29.119
consumed by earth or other rodents.
Sure, porcupine whatever, Yeah, no,

738
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:35.239
understandable. Not the greatest environment for
fossilization. We'll put it to you

739
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.920
that way. Just you know,
we make a lot of assumptions on a

740
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:40.039
creature. We've only have a handful
of teeth and a jawbone from that's my

741
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:44.519
point. I'm trying to right right. Well, guys, we've hit that

742
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:47.920
time again. Any final thoughts from
you all before we beat out for the

743
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:55.239
night. Ooh wow, I'm glad
you used out who That was close.

744
00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:01.679
Now we can go on with this
subject, you know, stalked by Sasquatch

745
00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:07.840
probably for hours and hours and hours
on end, because this is only just

746
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:12.920
a tiny sliver the top of the
iceberg of the whole subject, because there's

747
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:16.639
so many stories, including personal stories, that we can all you know,

748
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:22.280
share, and we haven't even gotten
into that right. So yeah, I

749
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:27.239
would like to continue with this subject
matter at some point, but Sean and

750
00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:30.320
myself had a conversation earlier today.
We got some great shows coming up in

751
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:36.440
the near future that we'll be looking
forward to with some great guests, So

752
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:40.880
stay with us, stay tuned,
Henry Baker, anything else. Thank you,

753
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:44.400
Steve, Thanks for tuning in to
night Buddy. Yeah, thanks,

754
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:47.599
see Baker, say the word,
Henry, Let's get her home. Take

755
00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:52.079
us out, buddy. You'll be
good, be good at We'll see you

756
00:59:52.159 --> 01:00:01.559
next week. Folks. Keep on
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757
01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:07.119
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758
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