EP 77: Daniel Perez and The Bigfoot Times

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The views and opinions expressed by the
guests of Sasquatch Experience do not necessarily reflect

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the opinion of the host, sponsors, or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience.

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As always, listener discretion is advised. And what are you reporting? We

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got someone or something crawling around out
here? Does a legend walk among us

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working in the forests of our world? Did you see what it was?

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Well? Was it a person or
an animal? Or I can't go all

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of my knowledge that my thunder light
came on and I dipped up with a

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glimp and see this thing running across
the yard, A good sized man or

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something worked like a man. I
don't know what it was. For over

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fifteen years we've talked with scientists,
researchers, investigators, and witnesses trying to

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gain insight and truth around the existence
of this mysterious entity. Jesus quite ar

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heel, Hello, get somebody out
here. What's going on? Announce their

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thought of a bittures about sixty fourth? All right, I don't know,

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easy, announce their yes, so
welcome right out? Oh okay, hang

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on, he's right, is eat
your yard there? Yeah? Got your

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big Okay, what'd you do it
in your yard? We got a big

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join us as we continue into the
investigation of the Sasquatch Experience. Why hello,

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pork job, we can't hear you. He may need it yourself.

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Well that's okay. Hey, how's
that? I love it. It's not

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live unless something goes wrong. So
exactly, without going into that again,

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guys, I'm Sean Fork. You
know it's Monday night. You're listening to

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the Sasquatch Experience. Henry May,
James Baker, Vincen Hazmitt, Matt Arner,

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and our guest over in the Big
screen, mister Daniel Perez from The

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Bigfoot Times here with us tonight.
So I'm going to be a little brief

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at the beginning. I do want
to give us thank you to everyone who

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showed up to the Central PA Bigfoot
Encryptid Festival this weekend. We had a

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great audience for the presentations. I
was the kick golf presenter, Matt was

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the after lunch presenter. We both
had good crowds. It was a decent

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day. They're they're saying about five
thousand people showed up for the event.

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We didn't have five thousand people listening
to us. Speak, but we had

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a decent crowd for each one.
So the first event of its kind.

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Gwen Purcell, great job, and
the Sasquatch experienced team showed up. Well,

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we got a lot of people stopping
by to talk about their sightings and

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areas of interest. It was time
well spent, Matt, would you would

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you not? Agree? Absolutely?
And that was my first time doing a

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presentation, and uh, what the
big thing was was, uh, you

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know you had the experiences, uh
to talk about the history into it later

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on. You know, we had
some great speakers and we were able to

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stop it off with you know,
being safe in the woods, you know,

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And it really was I think for
the people I went there, it

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was a great experience. Yeah,
definitely worth the attendance. The price of

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admission, which was free, it
was ten dollars to hear the speakers or

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Mike Cook, Daniel ben Waugh,
Maxim uh fu fuerk Perky which of that

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name? Sorry Maxim? And he
spoke on the kind of paranormal UFO connection.

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So he had four four flesh and
bludders and a paranormal guy all on

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one panel, and then of course
a round table afterwards. Matt and Eye's

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presentations will be up for you guys
to view here as soon as they get

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them put together. James, you
were there live and in color. You

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showed up and you know, provided
a little entertainment for the folks. What

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do you think of the event?
You know, the thing with it was

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is that it was for being the
first time it'd been it was really good.

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And the fact was that they had
a lot of vendors, but they

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also had people that you could just
sit and talk to. That's the one

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thing I like about the festivals is
it's not just that you can buy chainsaw

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art and you can buy things like
that, which you're great love chains are,

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you know, but there's also just
groups you could talk to. So

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like me and Sean talked to a
variety of people, but it's always nice

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to connect with somebody else that goes, oh, you're seeing the same things

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in Ohio that we are in Pennsylvania, or you're seeing the same things,

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and you know, That's why I
like to go to a variety of different

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conferences because you get different groups,
and you get different people's opinions, and

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you'll also get like I guess with
a networking sure, I'll guess I'll start

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questions off with Daniel and Matt.
I'll let you introduce them as soon as

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I got to ask my question,
though, because we're gon, we're gonna

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have Daniel Perez on the show today. And Daniel, You've been an attendee

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of conferences and symposiums over the years, probably longer than most of us.

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I mean, I've been doing this
a long time, but I wasn't even

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born to Lady five, so I
wasn't going to the early conferences. What

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do you think about conferences now?
Do you think they've you know, what

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do you think about the quantity?
Do you think that is a benefit or

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diminishes the research? And do you
prefer the convention or symposium style? While

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the first in my knowledge, the
first conference I attended big Foot wide was

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not in Guman of nineteen eighty nine. It's Bald and Wattley finished Atty wanted

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who would have to deal with bankfoot
that would on the charts at that time

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was an attendant including Warbercrafts, John
ree Ride to hindon my thought and others.

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But back then, back in the
way eight, it executated longcoming with

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balled war feet collectial ah approach it. I mean it may have been a

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table spread out with a few trinkets
per sale about with it, and then

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fast forward to twenty twenty three,
it completely stepped around. It's thought about,

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I guess the power of social media, the power of life. And

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also you've got to sells at the
concience and so it's above to what it

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is on its own, and uh
I mean it's most fill it up.

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I mean, I don't have a
problem with the United States, and uh

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so if there's a buyer and a
failure and someone wants to sell them saying

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if someone wants to white those things, I don't mean anything wrong with But

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I think also two maybe it and
its law it's not as serious as it

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used to be in white opinion.
I mean, I can recall that that

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what symposium held in Canada in the
mid nineteen nineties that posted and put on

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by Peters R. And I think
they will a little work in blackful to

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those meets than there is today.
And today I did it's like a feel

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full gathering and nothing wrong without because
then pervading it still change. But I

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think it's it's not like it used
to be. I'm not saying it better

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all the worst, but it evolved
to what it is on its all Sean,

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I think you're microphone might be off. Yeah, I think it's auto

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set. Is that better? Okay, that's a lot better. It doesn't

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hear me. It shuts me off, which is not a bad thing because

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we know I can talk. But
our friend Todd Prescott has been putting out

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these videos on the Sasquatch Archives page
of these old conferences, and folks check

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them out Sasquatch Archives on YouTube because
you'll see Daniel and all his glory talking

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with reneed to Hindon, which you
know, I wish I would have got

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an opportunity to know him, because
he seemed like quite the firecracker and those

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are my kind of guys, and
I just really wish I had the opportunity.

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But we get that opportunity to at
least see some of the interaction and

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personalities that unfortunately are no longer oh
you know, with us, and there's

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definitely an opportunity for folks to go
back. One of the things I said,

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I think at the round table Matt
this weekend was, folks, what

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do you need to do when you
start research? Go back and read books

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and watch these videos of these people
that have been in here, and that'll

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answer half the questions you have before
you get started. So Matt, I'm

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going to throw it to you and
you can kick us off and introduce Daniel

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and then we'll get going. Well, I'll tell you what, Daniel,

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We're esteemed. You know, you're
an esteemed guest were We're very happy to

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have you here tonight. Not only
have you been involved with a lot of

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the literature that's come out the board
the research, you also compile this with

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the Bigfoot Times as well, and
the Bigfoot Times is an institution for anyone

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that is UH, that is serious
about about the about the study of Bigfoot.

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Is there one particular moment when you
were when you're running the big Foot

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Times that you thought was maybe one
of those altering moments in UH in the

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research of Bigfoot? No, I'm
not realiating, but why old motivates into

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don't pub the thing? A new
player and then the light around the time

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of the we're starting to in Crog
town everyone life. Then we're still on

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the paper paper day where people add
like a newspaper, a neat letter,

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that physical thing such is what you
see right here yes, and so Ray

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Crow Public Thing done, Keating with
public Thing, Connie Cameron with publishing the

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big Foot came off and they will
all print on paper a mail to people.

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The other United States fought the purpose. And I've been subscribing to all

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of both news letters and I was
just devouring all the information and I've not

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to myself maybe some of these editors
of the newsletters were not as careful as

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they clod or should be with the
information they were producing and do an audience.

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And right around that time, I
get the laptop computer was coming out

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and they got down to the lot
of Feet Goali or whatever they call it,

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and I was kind of playing things
together my head and I said,

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well, I was thinking about publishing
a newsletter myself, because I had public

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one before using a manual Corona hypewriter
and you know, and those that would

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back when I was in high school. And so the laptop computer, I

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thought to myself, well, I
think I'm gonna do it again, and

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about publishing a new edition of the
fixt Time then Ladder, and I was

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able to launch the first Dibitch in
January of n eighteen ninety eight, and

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that was twelve years at all,
and it's still don't win. And I

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know he Remay has been on board
for decades. So yeah to the back

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reader all over the world now.
And I'm very pretty uh the fact that

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it lives. Were survived for two
and a half decade now, but we

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ventured the digitally and we have a
paper VI footer that's mailed out to the

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Cyberds. At least in my mind
tells people helped me that I'm doing a

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good job. Slutely. I look
forward. I'll tell you, I look

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forward when when you put that that
post out with just the uh just the

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top, uh, you know that
means hey, in about three days,

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I'm getting that newsletter. So it
really uh the information in there is outstanding.

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You know, your coverage of the
of the recent events as well as

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your book reviews and and that's something
I'd like to actually uh kind of defer

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to Henry. Henry, do you
have any questions for for Daniel Well,

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I was wondering you speaking of books, I was wondering about your pending book

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project on the Patterson Gimlin film.
Oh but sure about will be out in

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twenty twenty four if we come back
the watful time and often times then lacking

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water down it jotted it into a
just a nightmare. But essentially the wealth

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is completely now I would say pod
with closer to ninety percent. And now

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it's the matter we're getting everything together, A lot of the pictures should be

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and we're ecstasy and the formap of
the book is going to be similar to

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John gray Well Fit, while in
back is going to be the same format.

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I get h tt nap John Grayne's
early well the buck left that will

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take nap five seventeen, I believe, and I guess they called that tabloid

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of the tarp and so that's that's
what it's gonna have the lough and feel

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of. And without her data would
be there in twenty twenty four. And

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I'm not approximating. It's it's it's
not the only thing on my plate.

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Uh. Like I said, I
still work full time and so that takes

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more pime water wid goddle I And
in thought sometimes I think, to my

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thought, I'm lucky to be able
to put out that they put kids of

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news letter on I'm main monthly KA
because now we have quote to about eight

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hundred seventy five numbered worldwide and that
number things up and both down based on

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people roughing off and people writing up. And so when you get imagine howding

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to get back newsletter plimpted and then
floated stuff at a non envelote and then

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putting the pictures on for all the
members and the damp from getting it out,

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so that and it felt an athlete
t d Letty, Wow, Sean,

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do you have anything god I wish
like Shaun's Michael frocks out. I

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would like to say thank you for
doing that because that is a great it's

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a great source that I've heard.
Have to get more on that because I

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didn't act. But it's also a
really big labor on your end, and

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thank you for taking the time when
I grew up a lot. So it's

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it's not too much glock to do, especially when you love what you're doing.

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So I have you have a problem
producing it because I read the new

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bladder myself to get information. I
read back it needs to give to revitalize

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my information about what's happened in the
past, So I could produced another new

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and so I'm leading some wyoming back
its so we could do only to the

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September big Foot time on the late
Peter Butter and Uchit pat In late July,

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and he at the last of the
four ort Grin in big Footing lat

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of a generate and that first generation
of big Floers and uh It kids SAMs

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like those four individual probably more than
most other people what they accepted. Rogert

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Patterson will going to be about the
most famous faked Butter that had ever left.

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It's almost like you'd be taught about
the history of baseball that come out

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they wote. Any conversations always seed
to come back. So though it's more

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continued to will fall and stop up, and conversations about the serious don't get

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picked. Now that's a good point. I would like to add something to

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that. So in your opinion,
now that the four horsemen have all passed

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and got speed to all four of
them, no matter what you think of

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them, in your opinion, who
do you see as the next up and

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coming Wow, I would say you're
probably three people and one in Authremia.

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Uh here in Lord the Miracle,
I would say, aught the way Shane

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Clappenter left Brackman and in Canada Tom
Seenbert even though Tom le and then in

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a gray Dean Harraton who got a
website, I get Fredom and now we'd

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research or whatever. But I felt
with him on the phone in two thousand

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when I'm with the new Premio myself. He was acted then and he still

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acted edited and he's literally doing a
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it's hard because he's the continent away. But you laughed the question, so

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I asked answered it that I can't. And that's a good Uh, that's

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a good list of people right there. Barrickman, great guy. I mean

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seriously, Uh, he's no bs
to anybody. He just kind of lays

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it out there. And you know, I know that Tom as well.

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These guys will just lay it out
there as they see it and give you

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whatever the fact is to how they
interpret it, and then you can,

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you know, put together whatever you
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they're very reasonable people. Yeah,
no'll be all about that. And you

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know, I know what this pap
fifty Shane caught the verse probably wake forties

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or mid forties and Seamburgers sixty two. So age is not so much as

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a factor, but it's something then
kind of keeping wine with Pete and blowing

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out in doing at age seven,
you you know the data though. Actually,

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I mean, if you were to
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ninety seven, could Peter, We'll
find big cut and most bet would be

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againe, but they will if you
havn't, the bet would be on yet

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even though it's been material line,
that's how the betting would go in my

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opinion right now. That's a really
good point. I love hearing these,

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you know, at different point points, even though I think of them anyway.

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Yeah, absolutely, with all the
time I've seen you with with a

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four horsemen, Renee de Hinden,
is there any anything that really sticks out

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about about him when you've gone to
the conferences you've done to went to a

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symposiums when he may have been just
talking to him. Is there something that

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we may not necessarily know, you
know, just in the general Bigfoot community

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about his personality or about uh you
know, about the kind of person he

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was it. But the ballot ran
at and cold. It's just descended on

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the circumstanti He didn't he didn't like
Canna. Let it set build because they

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want her back till the uh every
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But later I accept time he died
in Ethel his talking one. I guess

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he again he didn't have too many
fisting takes about Peter Lord, but he

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loved the smelt his quite pop.
We loved to make chops about people like

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uh or similar two Daughald Trump.
He would name people with deils rang like

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bet food would be called Bob Pittness. The week Bob Pittness. He used

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to call uh hit malice. And
he had a few other than very well

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known big shoulders. But he ran
out and cool with well the interesting about

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you know, the stimulate and individuals
that did have both high school education that

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for the longest time of his light
to recycle. Let it doot at the

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Vancouver Donla. And if you won't
take that for a guy, that's simple

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with him said in your paperball of
all the beautiful work after the five PG

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film out of Heath in the film
and he did it. H I'm giving

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rich the daughter and Uh. I
remember asking build bond did why it was

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at the TJI film. I said, so, why do you think about

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the day the engine work on the
film? Really it might wasing over unbelievable.

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And I kind of measually to him
because ide I think he knew what

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it thought the fiction was. And
I said that, uh, you know

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about the Felvin looking stop the comes
from for the jewelry needed there and it

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kind of looked at me like like
I never rebat and well that was kind

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of uh you well, you know
I'm under all where the good ball that

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comes from autent packing product thing hally
out we get to look look thatks were

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naty hinded Mike I said he loved
the smoke that pie and has, but

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to go smelling quiet that you know
what I need? Yep, absolutely change.

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I think you're up next. So
with with the since you've been in

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the field so long, with the
current technology and the current connections, do

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you think that it's easier for you
to look at evidence and to collect more

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information like and you know, for
what you need than it was before.

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I know, like you said in
the beginning, it was more science and

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like you had a lot of connections, but it was like now that you

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have the ability to basically talk to
anybody you'd wish to, do you think

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you get more you think it's easier
getting the information or do you think there's

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so much out there that it's hard
to break down what's good and bad.

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It's it's easy enough and it's all
so cheaper. They wanted to say twenty

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years ago out as one good and
bad in creation. Wotton I have get

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the manor ah, I am am
go intend to look there had some things

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like what I would call fighting,
or there's a literacy behind it or you

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know the name all well, what
frank, when we have to get into

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one thing? Uh? When I
stay easier and cheaper, I mean like

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twenty years ago, if I already
did an own thumbing your north credia and

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had to write a letter and what
they you know, I can get on

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funnel with what haalf and follow directly
and you haven't taught me anything. And

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the thing here in the United States, I go to sit fun thumbling a

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man and start out whom wanted to
talk to me about? Like flags and

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parrishon you getting love filled You's like
the third give me itself. I'm year

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in the office from the home walkers
while he called me and I get type

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called and react with something like God
again the phone called them the card twenty

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year you from the phone by an
hour. There was the significate long difference.

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Uh, feeling on my phone cart
Well you see differing cheaper and again

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you have to have a certain des
collection and they comes like you know,

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and he probably wouldn't though to a
youth fall a lot and buy a car.

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Then the youth car fails man the
will Lawrence or what you will wearn't

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here like that. It just it
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So if you're squat you staying away
at them about types of vehicles and

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you're t to go to a new
car walk whether there's few be this fall

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word mean more to get it and
the same thing if they evidence it's out

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there, I mean we can jump
off you tube. You can see there

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ain't any given weight eight twenty year
big but video let me bottom at the

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individual way and I don't leave in
Barbara. If it's why if there's not

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a name behind walk python, I'm
not really doing ye. Yeah, that's

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how I feel too, when you
get those little snippet clips from random people.

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Like my brother sent me a clip
of what was supposed to be either

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a Yawi or an alien or something
and he said, oh, this happened

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a four mile drive up near where
I live. And I said, well

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that's weird because I got the same
clip from six other people, and one

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lives in Florida, one lives in
Nevada. One listen whatever, and they're

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all like saying, oh yeah,
this was three blocks from my house.

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I'm like, where do you live? Springfield? You know? M right?

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All right? So I think we're
at the top of the hour and

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advance. You're ready for the news. We are good for the news.

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You're listening to the Sasquatch Experience with
our special guest Daniel Perez, and we'll

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take the news team a symbo.
Ah. Yes, it is Monday night,

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half hour into the show of the
Sasquatch Experience, and now it's time

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for the big Foot bullhorn. I
hope you're all having a good Monday night,

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and I hope you had a wonderful
weekend. I know our bestie over

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there, Sean did a remarkable job
as he was talking about earlier, speaking

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in front of crowds of thousands regarding
Bigfoot. But into the news. This

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story might sound a little bit familiar, but we've just kind of updated it.

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Back in June out of Rochester,
New Hampshire, the rock chest New

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Hampshire Police Department has received several reports
of bigfoot sightings in the downtown area faring

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the worst. Concerned citizens and business
owners are on the lookout for the legendary

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cryptid. Chris Harrelson, Profile Bank, says he became a believer what a

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bigfoot allegedly approach for one of the
banks drive through teller windows. He's quoted

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as saying, I heard about bigfoot
sightings last summer, but I never thought

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i'd see one in the open like
that, said Haroldson. I didn't know

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whether to run or hide or help
him open a savings account. Officer Brandon

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Kimbro, Rochester's Community Engagement officer,
is encouraging residents to stay calm and keep

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their distance until we make contact.
We want everyone to stay safe. Our

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department will do everything we can to
protect life and property, said Kimbro.

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If you see a bigfoot, do
not approach it. Please be careful out

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there now. This guy might sound
familiar to you. Todd Raddick, owner

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of Skeleton Records, and says he
saw big foot watering flowers around Parson Main

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Monument in Central Square. He's quoted
as saying, I've never seen anything like

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it. I looked down for a
second to grab my camera and he was

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gone. It all happens so fast. This is the same guy that said

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Bigfoot was perusing his record collection in
his record store and he looked down to

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grab a camera and it was gone. Volunteers with Rochester Main Street are taking

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action to respond to the concerns of
the community members. Board president Jeff Bisson

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says the organization created a website to
record bigfoot sightings and track their whereabouts.

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We believe there is more than one
big foot in Rochester, said Bisson.

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We need help tracking this mysterious heard. It's our hope that people will find

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them and photograph them and help Rochester
Main Street prove that they exist once and

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for all. The organization is offering
prizes for anyone brave enough to locate them

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all. We believe they're everywhere.
Bussing continued. We need your help to

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locate and document them. Rochester Main
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cards to downtown businesses of your choice
if you're lucky enough to be selected.

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Sean, get Lauren Coleman on the
phone. He's not that far from Rochester.

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Let's put some Let's just put a
big smile on this whole story.

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I think it's good city promotion for
Rochester and for tourists that come into the

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area. Hey, it may bring
one or two young UN's into the whole

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sasquatry community, and maybe that'll be
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And until next time, keep your
toes in the mud. All right,

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we're back and uh so you know
what, Daniel, I want to

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ask you, and I figured it
wait till until this half of the show.

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Here she tell us a little bit
about the research that you've done out

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at Bluff Creek. Yeah, I've
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And I get there specifically talking about
the power and give them on self

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die lot and made with the Luck
Creek project what we were trying to do,

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and I have it de fusing with
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And when Margaret Patters been shot at
film Audient you grenade and the camera was

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the twenty five that okay nettle grammic
a photographic one law the determining how called

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the sunvict is on provision, you
know the difference between the candlon and the

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subject and all. Also the booble
went of the of the the canmera and

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this gated Millner and so we went
there on our lap set at the glue

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to decide to nail that down.
And between us we have the fifteen millimeter

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lens, the twenty milimeter lens and
the twenty five millimeter len and then why

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would recollection this well pumps in the
twenty twenty one I think the November twenty

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twenty one edition of the one uh, because we have a lot of original

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requality there. But it's standing to
be that the best bitip well the subject

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in the sound while it's the twenty
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ray of the goal about doing that
is that you can still see today in

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twenty twenty one, we're twenty twenty
three. Uh. If you could imagine

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painting your flame of the film a
whole plane and just going to the film

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strike and just putting it like brought
up yourself and you looked up a lap

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and you could see get edge to
the flame and then wed all life we

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want the field strike. You could
see where the edge is based on the

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cities in the background, and the
same thing with the white And so we

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were able the children not with high
procesion Roley Kelly who was with us at

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the time, what these high intensity
might at fild locations. So why that

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we marked the quote unquote field goal
on for light side of the flame and

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the right trime and we pretty much
knew what Paddy was but through the film

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and we're pretty much backed the camera
where it needed to be when Rock or

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taking that film from sons of that. The difference for we may have been

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a little bit to the last,
a little bit to the light. Not

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certain I'm about aspect, but it
seemed to be that the funny millimeter land

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seemed to be a better fit.
So by of court that it changes nothing,

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but it changes everything he's done to
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like I've spoke with a guy that
creates them more about about I wish I

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could remember a seeing right capital just
gaates me. But it changes the heights

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of the subject. And I'm not
exactly I crunched them numberers, and I'm

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saying, well, that doesn't seemed
to be the right thought. Things while

404
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:45.519
this are these other factors that I'm
not incorporating into the equation. It's trying

405
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:51.599
to come out with the heights of
the subject. Uh, the see if

406
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.880
we can get that copper answer.
But as I think, oh, I

407
00:37:53.960 --> 00:38:00.159
can out based on the research,
it's like a funny noimeter lens. It's

408
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:04.760
the more sensible of what was used. While the two things all the terror

409
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:08.840
is when the renega end and slowly
research which is actually more vital and probably

410
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:15.000
more important. He would they will
to determine based on probably going to separate

411
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.599
camera shop and auting with Watcher where
he were still living. Bet it goes

412
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:23.079
the twenty five minute me to lend
aquipcom the camera and I know that Renee,

413
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:29.400
I just separate camera shop and asked
about it and laid on Peter Lun

414
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:36.639
when he was funded, wrote some
letteries to police department Theory in Yakima,

415
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:45.280
Washington about the cam Levitt Roger rennikid
and didn't pay for one. He eventually

416
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:46.920
had to get hauled in front of
a court room to make it a camera

417
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:52.480
about about the dollar just to start
me. After the film was shot,

418
00:38:52.519 --> 00:39:00.280
and so a week's foot pols was
generated and bun Peter Lund the table from

419
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:06.239
the information and from that information UH
the thirst meeting responded to them, stated

420
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:12.800
that the camera, the red holl
camelo at Roger knew UH was in fact

421
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.159
identified and it was equipped with the
funny fighting on it affect. Okay,

422
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:22.960
and mind you the collet king one
hinder camera, not the fullartmor stop and

423
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:29.159
with a total I'll give you a
crack court and you have fixth lend okay,

424
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:34.559
I mean Jeff Gray lens of the
sea thing and free land fel but

425
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:38.199
with the fixth land. If there's
only one dealing when and one filming land,

426
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:46.119
okay, and not with Floyd.
Wow, that's sweet. Oh so

427
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:54.719
it's baithed on, bathed on the
the police support and day and ended and

428
00:39:54.880 --> 00:40:01.559
bunned steam walking with the twenty five
millimeter land but based on experiment patron app

429
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:09.800
a film I have laid into a
puble of twenty twenty one that the twenty

430
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:15.960
millimeter a land up thing to beat
about? Bit or the film? Have

431
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:20.119
you when you been out you you've
spent a lot of time in Bluff Creek,

432
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:27.079
if I'm not mistaken. I was
reading about Lighterman's book with the on

433
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:32.480
Bluff Creek, which is absolutely amazing. But did you ever have any experiences

434
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:37.320
out there when you were when you
were going out there to to do this

435
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:42.800
research and to uh, you know, uh just try to you know,

436
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:47.519
get this place uh uh settled in
uh for the exact spot. Did you

437
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:52.679
ever have any sort of uh encounters, any sort of weird things happen out

438
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:59.599
there? No, uh, nothing
that I could record that bit. But

439
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:04.239
why they are along fifth of my
dog and I think that was about cover

440
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:09.280
up two thousand and fourteen, and
when we were headed upstream, we saw

441
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:15.719
well, I thong, I assuming
my dog bid too. Were you black

442
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:22.800
pin up that one down? They
left creek? It didn't seem and I

443
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:27.880
grabbed the collar on my dog because
I didn't want him to go after it

444
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:31.039
because it wouldn't have been a match. Oh yeah, but they were huge

445
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:36.840
black bear and it it then put
things that failed with mode aware of me

446
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:43.320
viewing it. Yea, they didn't
have to create nothing more the mouth side.

447
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:50.840
I've seen plenty of deer there and
back in probably two thousand and four.

448
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:57.079
On another trip, we saw my
Feloper and liquor Henry, who was

449
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:01.960
on the other side from the November
sixty seventh we saw mountain win track but

450
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:06.760
and I didn't even bother the same
picture of them. I don't feel along

451
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:13.360
my wh What was interesting is that
i'd first he had never seen a mountain

452
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:16.480
wine in the wood you ever seen? But that was the first time I

453
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:21.920
thought track and the undermine by the
name name of David Yells was in that

454
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:25.800
area years ago, back in the
lade eighty and not only get it the

455
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:30.400
amountain win, but they saw the
cheap prod of with it, and so

456
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:35.360
that that's just the way Bains go. It's just like I've never seen with

457
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.840
Ardy, the three of them bothering
for two spots. So when people say,

458
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:45.280
you know, uh, why can't
you see a big foot or something,

459
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.119
it's just the way whar thing had
you Frank Fen the one. But

460
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:52.559
certain pots you have to be in
the right pipe like mine and not.

461
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:59.920
Yep, absolutely, Henry. You
have a question, Henry, Well,

462
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:05.079
I just wanted to ask Daniel.
I know that Daniel, Hello, m

463
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:12.400
we hear you allowed. Nope,
we hear you allow that. Daniel.

464
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:16.039
I know, okay, I know
that he's a collector of some of the

465
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:20.280
older books. I know you got
a pretty big collection. You guys got

466
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:27.920
bird collection. Me, what is
your favorite classic book? My favorite propic

467
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.639
book? If I've been Sanderson's The
Woman moll to No Man Legend Come of

468
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:36.440
the Wife that are published in nineteen
sixty one, and when I way the

469
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:40.320
top ten bucked in Big Footy at
least in my opinion and Blond Corman's opinion

470
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:46.039
is that I've been fandersty book comes
out on top and so in nineteen sixty

471
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:52.599
one without the hated AUSSI personal computer
or anything. Maybe we'll need to wet

472
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.440
man muck book. And if I'm
at Marthagan, I think doctor truck Melbourne

473
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:01.760
probably points in that direction too,
because what he did in sixty one pill

474
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:06.920
will realmyed up and even mastered it. But a little bit of book.

475
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:13.039
That's my favorite book. Uh he
would think about it. There was noing

476
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:15.519
on that at the time, and
he was able to light it book over

477
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:21.840
five hundred pages long where thereabout with
all that information not just on Bigo,

478
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:28.639
all the unknown up like Harry walking
thinners worldwide. It was a little wife

479
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:32.199
erpet it felt to have done that. I think he's fifty one. He

480
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:37.880
really set the ball on the ball. So I was able to have my

481
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:42.840
old, cooky old copy of that
book and I bolted it on faithbook extensively

482
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:49.119
Autoga after why some of the things
sick were tign including uh, well the

483
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:58.400
doctor Jeff Meldrum, John Greene and
who was h have been wild man in

484
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:02.880
the community. I felt, yeah
all the time, number one favorite quot

485
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:10.280
and it's interesting to go. But
a lot of people don't the photobot walk

486
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:19.400
much at they fould be in my
opinion, Daniel, we got a question

487
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:23.360
that came in through the chat from
Astro and for some reason his question is

488
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:28.360
the same thing that I had in
the back of my mind on the Patterson

489
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:34.760
camera that he used, that it
had turret lenses on it instead of one

490
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:39.119
fixed lens. Can you clarify that. Did it have adjustable where you can

491
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:45.039
turn the lenses four different lenses on
there and change it, or it was

492
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:51.760
just one fixed lens? It was
one fixed when? Okay? Then?

493
00:45:52.760 --> 00:46:00.159
And uh a length a film anywhen
what they call the thick lens models was

494
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:06.599
not the Pillet month Okay, Yeah, for some period of time I always

495
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:10.360
thought it had four multi turret lenses
on there. I don't know what gave

496
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:15.840
me that whole aspect and thought process, but it was interesting that somebody else

497
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:23.400
brought that up to James or Daniel. What do you think about Bigfoot on

498
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:30.639
the East coast here in Pennsylvania,
Ohio, New York, Maine, Michigan,

499
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:37.599
with all your experiences in the Pacific
Northwest and California, do you really

500
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:46.920
see that you know that there's almost
as much definitive proof out here or sighting

501
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:53.760
wise in the eastern part of the
United States. Well I within Mplbania in

502
00:46:54.039 --> 00:47:00.400
nineteen ninety sixteen and Aisle Well about
fifth month in ninety five months in nineteen

503
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:07.400
ninety six as well. And yes, I think the evidence is just that's

504
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:13.440
compelling, if not what compelling than
the West Coats big situation and what made

505
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.840
that crystal player was the book that
was called big Foot on the East Rick

506
00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:21.719
and by the Lake Rick Barry,
and which is a really hard book to

507
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:28.039
get a older by the way he
halog I thinke Foot report on the neat

508
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:34.039
Coat in nineteen ninety one. I
believe he had a cataloging of more than

509
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:38.679
what John reading might be able to
akimmulate Monigo booping me seven eight. But

510
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:44.920
I do find the evidence in Ohio
and p Flingia and both those the one

511
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:49.760
the area that fake that's been too. There's no question in my mind where

512
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:54.360
we have good Bill Ford similar to
what we have on the Pacific. Mark

513
00:47:54.440 --> 00:48:07.000
Black absolutely absolutely, James, do
you have any questions? There was there

514
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:09.800
was another question in the chat.
Did we go through that one too?

515
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:15.199
Let me see do you Jamie King
wanted to know do you feel when you

516
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:22.440
did your when you when you were
out there investigating in the same places as

517
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.719
a Patterson gimlin. Did you do
it at the same time of year as

518
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:31.719
the original and weathering conditions? Yeah, most of the times the bed of

519
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:37.559
the peaky film side had been in
Bulbert. We got white flife that way

520
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:40.719
the lighting condition. And one thing
I didn't the thing about our COLDO while

521
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:44.960
you're going in the ray and while
there with ray and the TN that did

522
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.360
up that they all louder. If
you're availed at about one thirty and a

523
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:54.880
half or the standing at the film
side, the sun is almost straight above

524
00:48:54.960 --> 00:49:01.320
your hand and until it doesn't tapped
out of it illuminates the whole film Pride

525
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:07.480
and not in very interesting because of
Poudy walks. She does not cap the

526
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:13.559
shadow without put into kinny timing of
the Dame with the Valbert Roger Patterson,

527
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:20.159
and that you could vigualize yourself having
the lamp above your head, and that

528
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:24.360
when you see Poudy in motions for
the third string there's no shadow and not

529
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:30.840
indicates again that the sun was almost
roughly above both if you go there at

530
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:36.519
one thirty and a half. The
names funny here of any year that's five

531
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:40.320
minutes sitting on the North Strader glob
your head. That is really cool.

532
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:50.039
Yeah. Yeah, we have somebody
else answering question to h Daniel where they

533
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:55.519
can find a link and subscribe to
the big Foot Times. Well it's easy.

534
00:49:55.679 --> 00:50:00.199
Just go to Big Flight Time,
walk net member stiff to the news

535
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:06.320
bar, Perfect Seed, then Atlantam
for twenty five years. We're not gonna

536
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:13.800
fate the nipple and one all right? Yeah right? So with the top

537
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.719
ten list that that you have for
your books, I just went and this

538
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:22.920
is I'm posting this out to both
Daniel and Henry. Do you guys both

539
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:30.320
have a similar uh a similar uh
you know volume of books that that you're

540
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:34.599
that you have for your top ten
or they uh you know, Daniel,

541
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.320
if you could just kind of run
through you know what you would consider your

542
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:42.320
top ten, and Henry if you
could do yours as well. O.

543
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:45.760
Good, But let me help her. Let me just volume my cop lad

544
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:51.079
okay, uh go on to the
memory not booking at my website. Number

545
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:55.119
one would be uh Ivan Fanders been
volume both things and legend coming from one

546
00:50:55.719 --> 00:51:05.239
number then run of Lane nineteen seven
eight. Uh, I mean liking on

547
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:08.679
the title, but it's stop Stuarts
Club from nineteen thirty eight eight H H.

548
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:16.840
Stap Book gets one and number than
to believe would be Watt Marri Manna

549
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:25.159
Potter on UH Yellow Book that I'm
blanking on the title with you and UH

550
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:37.400
Sasquatched another unknown Hominoids Little Will.
Number four I believe would be Walker All

551
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:43.360
brothers Foot Public three thousand thix.
I get to fall the Big Book,

552
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:49.519
uh ba bot whyet or something like
that. Now I'll at Henry toffering not

553
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:55.639
for me, Go ahead, Henry, Okay, I think I think gosh,

554
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.119
top ten, I don't know,
but top top that five would be

555
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:07.079
number one, sass part Saves among
Us number two the Ivan Sanderson book.

556
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:14.920
Number three is Jeffers book. Number
four is Peter Bird's book, and number

557
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:22.199
five would be go over France,
the Big Ones, Sasquatch habits All right,

558
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:25.840
Well you know what? That kind
of leads me to the next question

559
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:31.880
here, Uh is Daniel in your
opinion, what's the defining evidence that we

560
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:40.480
need to prove that big Foot is
real? But I interviewed coming the Lap

561
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:45.360
monthly the big Foot time smooth Bladder, yep, and for his opinion is

562
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:51.679
like all of his weight called the
wild? Is that what needed I repeat

563
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:54.400
the BeBot. Is this a peak
of the dail peak to the body or

564
00:52:54.480 --> 00:53:00.119
body itself? And I'm talking about
nothing. I don't hope. I'm an

565
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:06.840
honor percent collinfidence e DNA will not
do it? How what will not do

566
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:12.159
it? It will not do it. I'm going to picture. It's clear

567
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:16.920
whatever is not going to do it
because Hurricane Eyland can say they, but

568
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:23.000
we can't take a bonding and so
the body or just what is going to

569
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:30.760
prove that the species that we called
Big four South Watcher theory off the round?

570
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:38.400
Okay? Nothing else, yep,
anything anything the advance James, No.

571
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:44.880
I guess my question would be,
are you because there's a controversial question

572
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:52.239
that goes back and forth squatchery kill
or no kill? So Daniel, what's

573
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:58.119
your opinion? Kill or no kill? I have no opinion? Or because

574
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:02.800
Here's is the point is that there's
people that want deer in the United States

575
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:07.719
with deer tag and licenses, but
there's also cultures out there too. You

576
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:13.440
know. It's like, even if
you're take an opinion whether it would kill

577
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:17.360
it or not, that's not gonna
be an exciting factor to someone out there

578
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:22.599
hunting one. See what I'm saying, you can don't all kill them,

579
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:28.280
and that's not going to stop a
huncher trying to do just that. What

580
00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:35.039
that's the what adding your bit?
Yeah, and then well the gift of

581
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:40.800
uh it often comes what in modern
day big footing is UH the question of

582
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:46.760
lacking wad or intrigant, extra dimensional
wherever they call it. It's just like

583
00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:58.199
if a body of a foul forts
produced that. Well, we're all kind

584
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:01.039
of echoed from the e EDNA portion, Matt when we had the round table

585
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:05.440
from the weekend. Daniel, you
and I share the same sentiments on the

586
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:07.360
EVNA. It's really not going to
prove anything. I don't think we do

587
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:12.000
need that body. Everybody dropped back
to that consensus. And though we have

588
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:17.840
these great new technologies and the abilities, there's still nothing that's going to satisfy

589
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:25.880
people than a big, substantial piece
of a of a sasquatch. And then

590
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:30.039
it goes to what you just said, and Matt, I said it on

591
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:32.960
Saturday morning. You know, we
talk about, you know, the paranormal

592
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:37.639
question or whatever is irrelevant, you
know, whatever comes down to what this

593
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:43.840
specimen shows us to be once it's
produced. Will answer the question. And

594
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:47.800
I just think so much time Daniel
is spent on the you know, kind

595
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:51.920
of like you know, you said
the kill, no kill. I myself

596
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.280
have also adopted that what's it mattered? Someone's going to do it anyhow.

597
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:58.440
It might not be me. I
might not be the one who's going to

598
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:02.320
bag it, but and hopefully it's
that ninety eight year old gramma driving back

599
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:06.320
from Bingo that hits it with their
station wagon. So it is done in

600
00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:09.199
a little bit more of an accidental
way, but we're still hoping one gets

601
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:15.199
bagged somehow. So really is it
is it? Is it humanely killed or

602
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:19.440
excidentally killed? Or you know,
it's just so many deriving them. Yeah,

603
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:22.400
they'll they'll explode. And what,
Daniel, I apologize I didn't get

604
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:28.639
the answer to ask you so many
questions because you had some technical difficulties in

605
00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:30.880
my end. But you know,
they asked you some good questions about the

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substantial book. What do you want
to be left with to your contributions in

607
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the field when the day comes and
it's time for us to talk about Daniel

608
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Perez, what do you want folks
to hope that you left them with.

609
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Well, I'm fifty hog out the
one tire eventually line all my file a

610
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lot of distant the little well they
donated to them for so another generation will

611
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have action to all the original one
cremations, some of the letters and some

612
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of the Bush generation Big Quarters and
actress to be stremely rare autograph books and

613
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:20.719
wells. I know I have to
lose this private library and the subvictis wow

614
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being fault unlike Peter Letta, and
I think nothing, No, it's criticism

615
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:32.239
about him, but his estate when
it comes to the fifth book file of

616
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:37.880
physical finals that it's not abunch the
office to the community because some of it

617
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was bought by Todd needs many other
u flide Willer theaters, Solomil wops them

618
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in the band and so watch can
go to the next sellers and Big Quarters

619
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from this world thanks big sanctionally gun
and so maybe fifty years now on the

620
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road. But I'm worn is that
danny Burg University will have the auditory of

621
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information and people that are alive then
and well they're like, wow with guy

622
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:15.679
was looking to hip sure and that
would be my legged pie if they like

623
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:22.400
now probably people member, bang,
look what he did with what he en?

624
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:31.119
Time? All right? Well,
I think Shawn's audio went out again,

625
00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:39.400
but he's sitting there. He's a
little upset about that. So anyways,

626
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:49.199
advance Henry James Is or anything else
for Daniel, I wanted thank you

627
00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:54.320
for coming on, and I wanted
to, uh, I appreciate it because

628
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:58.880
in this last hour I've learned a
few things about the PG film that I

629
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don't think a lot of us knew
about how the camera worked, and you

630
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:05.920
know, about the sun setting in
October. So I'd like to thank you

631
00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:08.239
because now that when I look at
that footage, you know, I always

632
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:12.960
thought it was a tri lens that
you could switch on in different things like

633
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:16.280
I didn't realize that, you know, And that actually gives me a better

634
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:22.280
idea of what you know when you
look at the footage, how how you've

635
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:29.800
experienced it. If that helps true, And I would say, Daniel,

636
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:37.800
you know, benefit of doing the
Stasquatch Experience me personally get to meet really

637
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:44.079
cool people in this field. So
thank you so much for participating with the

638
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:50.280
Stasquatch Experience. Now I get to
tell my social circle. Yeah I got

639
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:54.960
to talk to Daniel Perez and then
wow, that's awesome and it's it's a

640
00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:59.519
privilege for me personally, but it
is a privilege for all of us at

641
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:02.760
the stat Watch experience. But thank
you so much for doing this with us.

642
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:09.760
And well people, hold on,
I will be in September. Oh

643
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:19.639
but big what cod prin I'm the
dealer yet not cool? All right?

644
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:23.119
Yeah, absolutely, Sean wanted to
say. He went to thank you for

645
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:29.760
being thoughtful to preserve your legacy and
answering it was a semi morbid question,

646
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:34.599
but it was it was a well, it was a well done question there,

647
01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:40.360
So thank you so much for for
having that donation to uh Stanford University.

648
01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:45.400
I think that's amazing and uh,
and it's not us, it's going

649
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:50.679
to be the future generation of bigfooters
that are going to be so grateful for

650
01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:54.760
what you've done. We're we're grateful
for what you're doing right now and uh,

651
01:00:54.880 --> 01:01:00.920
but that future generation are really going
to uh, they're gonna see your

652
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:07.079
your works, They're gonna see your
collection that you have and hopefully hopefully you'll

653
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:12.159
spurn some discovery. So uh,
that's that's something that Sean wanted to say,

654
01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:28.360
Henry, do you have anything that
Henry? All right, and the

655
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:32.920
other interview with me that little bit. I'm advocating absolutely we gotta have a

656
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:39.119
second part with with Sean having his
full microphone. So yeah, yeah,

657
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:52.800
that would be great. Sean is
giving the big thumbs up on that.

658
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:55.960
So and and again I know for
all of us, we'd love to.

659
01:01:57.320 --> 01:02:01.599
Uh. I haven't been out to
the site. I know I'm definitely planning

660
01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:07.079
on it and uh and uh,
you know, it's something that we all

661
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:10.280
look forward to to doing. And
it's the work that that you have done

662
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:20.159
Steven Struford, uh Lenderman, all
these other all these researchers that that really

663
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:25.000
put Bluff Creek you know, uh
and and made it uh. You know,

664
01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:29.719
so that we know that that spot
again, we salute you for that,

665
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:32.400
and it's going to be something that
again. And when we come out

666
01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:37.480
there, we'll be able to you
know, we'll we'll be able to enjoy

667
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:38.679
it because of you know, the
work that you guys have done. So

668
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:45.800
again, I can't thank you guys
enough. So uh yep, So Vance,

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