EP 69: Gwen Purcell

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on what are your potting? We got

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someone or something crawling around out here? Does a legend walk among us working

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in the forests of our world?
Do you see what it was? Well,

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that a person or an animal or
I can't go all that knowledge that

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my under light came on and I
did happened a glimp and see this thing

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running across the yard, a good
side man or something. It looked like

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a man. I don't know what
it was. For over fifteen years we've

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talked with scientists, researchers, investigators, and witnesses trying to gain insight and

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pruth around the existence of this mysterious
entity. Jesus L Hello, get somebody

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out here. What's good? Announce
there? I thought of a bictures about

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sixty four. All right, I
don't know easy amount there, Yes,

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I'm looking right out. Okay,
hang on, he's right, get eat

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your yards there, Yeah, got
your bigger Okay, what are you doing

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in your yard? What can I
do? Join us as we continue into

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the investigation of the Sasquatch Experience.
M h well, good evening, everyone,

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Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience. Monday
April twenty four, two twenty three.

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It's me Sean the Fort Chop Forker, back this week with Vans and

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Esbit good Old j B. James
Baker, Henry May, the Walking big

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footen Cyclopedia, and our guest,
my good friend, the founder, leader

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of the Community of Got Knockers and
host of From Behind Tall Trees Wednesday Night,

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Gwen Forsell. Gwen, thanks for
joining us tonight. Guys. How

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you doing. It's great to be
here. Good day. Just two dollars

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a month. All wait, sorry, you haven't gotten to that yet.

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You know, bulletin Big Hit Van's
getting a lot of commentary about it.

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Folks like it, so good job
of the Big bullet Oh I like it.

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Hopefully we have the audio issue fixed
that one of our listeners has been

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chat me up with every week.
I appreciate him, Mike giving me feedback

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about how our audio is. We
spent a god awful a lot of money

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to run this show, so we
try to make it sound as best as

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possible for everyone. So bear bear
witness, be patient and just you know,

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be patient with us and give us
feedback. We like feedback because the

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show's for you, the listener,
because if it wasn't, we'd just be

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four guys and a gal sitting around
talking to a microphone. The conversations we

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would have came back last week vance
we had or two weeks ago, kind

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of just a general show, no
real topical point, but kind of got

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back into the nitty gritty. But
tonight we have a very special guest,

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a good friend of mine, Gwyn
from Pennsylvania. She's not in Pennsylvania tonight,

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but she's in Pennsylvania most Actually,
I'll find her all over the place.

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She's mobile. I am. You've
been hit in the conference circuit pretty

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hard with gott Knockers and yeah,
which is phenomenal. By the way,

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James and I met you in person
for the first time, which is funny

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because we're practically neighbors practically. And
the Great Smoking Mountain Bigfoot Conference in Tennessee

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lift yep, and that was a
wild event, and so we headed off

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that we actually think we met at
the Ohio Bigfoot Conference. Yeah, we

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spent like an hour talking in the
aisle. Yeah, well, everybody's trying

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to get around as you and I
order you stand in their heads. Where

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a conferences, you know, I
think folks forget that a little bit of

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a rant here for a moment,
that conferences are supposed to be a place

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to share information and network and connect, not just a flea market where people

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are selling their wares, which is
nothing wrong with that, but or listening

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to speakers. There's a whole it's
a holy event, you know, it's

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a it's an experience that folks really
need to, you know, appreciate and

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going back and folks, if you
haven't checked out the Sasquatch archives on YouTube,

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go ahead and do that. Todd
Prescott has curated a lot of information,

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most of it that predates all of
us. You're talking late eighties,

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early nineties of sasquatch Y, Don
Keating, John Green, Peter Byrne,

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a young Todd niece, a whole
plethora of researchers who have been doing this

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since you know, the research was
in its infancy. He's got all that

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information out of the Internet right at
your fingertips. So I don't have to

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go and lose my temper and tell
people to read a damn book anymore.

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You can just go to the Sasquatch
Archives and watch a damn video. So

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one more way for you to consume
information, because there's a lot out there

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that you're talking years, sixty years, seventy years of Sasquatch research that's now

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available really for anybody who who wants
to actually go out and do some research.

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So just a little shameless promotion there. But Gwen, why don't you

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tell us all how you got started
into bigfoot research, because you know,

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it's not something everybody does. It's
not something I ever thought I would do.

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Actually, I could could have cared
less about bigfoot before February twenty twenty

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one, and I saw this incredibly
large black figure crossing the cornfield across from

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our house. And I've hunted my
whole life and I've never seen anything like

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it. This thing was massive and
it cleared that cornfield in seconds, and

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all afternoon I was real quiet.
I'm trying to process what it was that

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I saw. I'm trying to come
up with something that it could have been,

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and I got nothing like that's the
only thing it can be. I

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can't come up with anything else.
And that moment started this whole I started

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getting online in the research and other
sightings in my area and surrounding areas,

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and it just deep dived down the
rabbit hole that very day and I've never

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come out, which is funny,
you know, because if you really have

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to dive deep to find sighting reports
in our area Pennsylvania, aside from the

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southwest part of the state, there's
you're not going to find a lot of

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database. You'll find some here and
there, but you really won't find anything

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in northern central PA unless you really
know where to go, because folks around

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here is Gwen will tell you.
It's a very conservative part of the state.

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A lot of hunters and outdoor enthusiasts
and people that you know, Bigfoot's

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probably not the first thing on their
mind. But how did you How did

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you reconcile that, Gwen, It's
not something you're really considered before one day

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you see this large black figure in
a cornfield. How did your mind go

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to bigfoot? Oh? Well,
you know, I watch a lot of

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Discovery Channel and I'm always on this
every plus. Before I started this bigfoot

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thing, I did paranormal investigating,
so I've seen the big Foot shows,

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and I just I couldn't. I
mean, it's not to say that there's

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not bears in my area, because
I mean, I've hunted my whole life

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and I've never seen a bear in
the woods ever so, I've never seen

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one. I mean I saw this
sighting was a thousand feet from my house.

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I've never seen a bear anywhere in
my neighborhood ever so, And a

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bear doesn't walk upright like that for
that period of time, and at that

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stride, like this thing cleared a
cornfield in seconds. A bear would have

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never would have never managed that,
not upright on two legs, not the

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way that thing was walking. It
just there's nothing else. I mean,

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this thing was had to have been
nine eight or nine feet tall, and

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it was as broad as a barn, and it was black from head to

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toe, and it just crossed that
cornfield like it was you know, ice

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skating on ice. It was ridiculous, and I just, yeah, yeah,

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it's funny. It's funny to say
that about the bears when because like

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I don't know, all the years
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early nineties to today, I've seen
a handful of bear maybe and they I

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have a great video of a baby
bear that we saw that untragically lost its

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mother and was abandoned. And you
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But I've never encountered one in the
woods. Maybe once not once in

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the woods with my grandfather that was
it. But all the time I've spent

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in the woods, like maybe I
can count now that I'm activating my mind,

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maybe two or three experiences and over
thirty years of being that's crazy to

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think about. And we know they
exist, there's lots of proof they're around,

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but you're encountering one in the woods
all rarity, But you know,

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you talk about that when we first
put the game camera up, when we

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first got the first footage, there
was a bear, didn't And we went

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down there before and after and like
we saw deer sign everywhere, and this

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was before really started to notice signs
and stuff, there was no bear sign.

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If I wouldn't have saw that photos
from the game can, I had

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never known there was a bear on
that land. Yeah, and that's a

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you know, an important thing to
note, uh, you know, Gwen,

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and the distance how fast it traversed
the I've seen the field you showed

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me the fields, Ye, a
sizable field. To have something moved that

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fast across it is very interesting.
Uh, definitely not going to be something

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that would struggle walking on two legs
for that long. Now, I'm not

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going to identify as a bear,
right So now, especially with your outdoors

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experience, So you have a sighting, then what do you do? Where

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you dive online? Where do you
go from there? Oh? Well,

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I started researching festivals and conventions,
which is I met you at Salt Fork,

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which is the first festival I went
to. UM I went on a

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BFR expedition out in western Pennsylvania and
learned a lot, which is where I

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met Matt Arner and Carrie and her
husband Steve. Yeah, I met all

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those guys on that trip and I
learned a lot, and I had some

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crazy experiences out there. So I
just I went everywhere I could find to

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suck up any type of knowledge and
get as much information as I could get.

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You talk about Matt Arner again,
a gentleman who's a wealth of knowledge,

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who well, folks need to pay
a lot more attention to because he's

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got a great background of professional background, just a hell of a nice guy.

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I'm so proud to call him a
good friend of ours, Gwen.

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Somebody we research with, we trust, absolutely somebody great to learn from the

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fact that you were you were in
a great attitude and you got to spend

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time with him in an area Pennsylvania, the very active area of the state.

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Absolutely absolutely. Did you want to
talk about that expedition a little bit?

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What exactly kind of puts you into
the what got you excited about it?

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Well, you know, the BFRRO
seems like a big thing. Like

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you you get online and you start
researching Bigfoot encounters and reports, and the

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BFRO comes up a lot. So
when I saw I don't even know how

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I found this, but I saw
somewhere that they were accepting people to go

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on this expedition and it was four
hundred dollars a person. My husband said,

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you are freaking insane to spend that
money to go on this Picot expedition.

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But it was my birthday and I
was like, I'm going, and

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I went out there. I knew
no one. I didn't even know the

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BFRO guys. I didn't know anybody
in the group and the butt but literally

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the whole group hit it off.
But I really melded with Matt and Steve

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and carry and we all live fairly
close to each other, about an hour

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apart, all of us, and
the first couple of nights we were out

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there, absolutely nothing happened. We
got nothing. There was no house,

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no growls, no footprints. We
did a lot of hiking. But it

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was a good time. I mean, we were getting to know each other

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and sharing stories and experiences. And
then that last night, Uh, it

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was. It was incredible. That
last night really sent me. If anything

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pulled vaulted me down that rabbit hole, it was that night in the woods.

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It was me and Matt and the
the BFRO guy, and we had

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an experience that I will never ever
ever forget. And to have it with

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Matt and and be like you saw
that, you heard that was was phenomenal.

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So yeah, And was an audio
experience or was it a visual experience?

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I don't even know how to answer
that. It was we were the

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three of us were standing on a
logging road and there was woods on both

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sides of us, and we heard
something walking and it definitely sounded by petal

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and you know, the leaves were
crunching, and all three of us pulled

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up our thermal cameras and there was
absolutely nothing there, but you could still

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hear this thing walking. It was
Matt. It was amazing. I'm not

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even gonna lie. It's an experience
I will never forget. It was my

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first real bigfoot experience. I mean, I'd seen it, but that was

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pretty much it until that point in
the woods with the BFR and it.

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I just went like one hundred and
fifty miles an hour after that experience.

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And as you see there, Matt
posts in the chat that was an awesome

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experience, closest we got. And
as I was saying there, when Matt's

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a validator and he tries to eliminate
everything you can possibly eliminate before he jumps

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to a conclusion, I don't want
to say I should say arrived student conclusion,

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jumps to a conclusion, and you
know, really wants to validate what's

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going on, and uh, it's
invaluable, it really is. You're not

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going to hear me say anything anti
Matt Arner, but you know I'd be

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remiss if I didn't mention Stephen Cary
too, because a great friends, but

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great researchers carry was doing the show
with you there for a little while,

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and they're out in the great outdoors
right now, fulfilling a dream. Yeah,

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which is hopefully if they are listening
or they get a chance to listen,

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they're doing well and they keep checking
in. It's great to see their

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photos. We wish them the best
and hopefully they you know, they stay

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safe. But again great. Yeah, when they get up to Pennsylvania,

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I'm going to go on the trail
with them for a couple of days.

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Yeah, it's not going to miss
an opportunity to be in the woods.

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Matt and I were just talking about
that today. Actually, uh have some

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events popping up. We'll fill you
in when you get back from your vacation.

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Now you're trying to he's down in
there while you're whire down there.

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I would, but I'm here to
see my daughter. They moved down hit

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My daughter and her wife moved down
here about three weeks ago. So my

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mom and I hopped on a plane
on Wednesday or on Saturday and came down.

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We're only here to Wednesday, so
yeah, yeah, yeah, Well

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you deserve a break every now and
then. Thank you from from the Bigfoot.

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But what you've been doing, you
know, great stuff. One again,

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we ran into you at the conferences
networking really putting together a great portfolio

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of not just research. As you
know, we all kind of belong to

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our tongue in chief research watchers,
which you know we're going to be doing

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a lot more stuff there. But
when you're really getting involved in the educational

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experience for youngsters, I'm trying,
I'm trying. I mean, these are

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the future of bigfooting. How many
how many people have we lost in the

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last six months to a year in
the bigfoot world? Yeah, I mean

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some well known, well versed people, and once that knowledge is gone,

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it's gone. So we need to
start passing this stuff on and get kids

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interested in being outdoors. That's the
most important part. Getting these kids off

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the computer, off the game systems
and getting them outside. It is.

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Yeah, and there's there's something great
Vans. You know, when we've had

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my son out there with us a
couple of times, he always he always

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comes alive when we get him out
there, and he's got such a good

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mind for this research. And I'm
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Because if he was a dumb as
a rock, I'd tell you it was

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a dumb as a rock. But
you've got a good mind for this research,

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and it is about bringing you know, younger people into this and fostering

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a good, sensible, um you
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lot of crap information out there too, and it's about bringing them up right

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with that, with that, but
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own decisions and reach their own conclusions. Right. You don't want to indoctrinate,

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You just want to plan them in
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chopping at the bit to your good
question. I do. I am chopping

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at the bit. My question to
you, before you had your visual experience

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of this entity or creature or whatever
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After that experience, did you reflect
back to any times prior to that

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happening of odd occurrences around where you
live, and then not putting two and

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two together there, I actually did, because I got married in twenty nineteen

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in June, and about three months
prior to that, my neighbor's my neighbor's

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sister reads tarot cards and my husband
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they said, why don't you come
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card reading, and I was like, okay, I'm not doing anything,

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so I'll go up and see what's
going on, you know. And the

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tarot card reader read started my tarot
card reading, and in the middle of

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it, she said, you need
to go sit by that tree and she

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pointed down my yard and I'm like
that tree behind the chicken coop and she's

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like yes, and I'm like no, Like it creeps me out. I've

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always felt like I was being watched
in the woods like something, you know,

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just not a big fan of the
woods out there, and and I

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never I did go out there,
like a month later because I got pissed

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off and I was like, okay, you want to talk to me telling,

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you know, come and get me, like tell me what you want

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me to know. And the weirdest
experience happened when I went out there.

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I actually got drained of all of
my energy. I had no energy to

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walk back to the house. I
got physically sick, like something just zapped

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me with and I had no idea
what it was. And like we had

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weird experiences after that, Like I
mean, you always felt like you were

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being watched, but there was like
a different tension like you could feel tension

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in the air and you were like, you know, I'm not going to

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sit outside tonight, I'm going to
go in the house. So like it

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was weird things. The dogs carrying
on, nothing like they're at the door

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scratching, barking, clawing to get
outside. You open the door to let

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them out, and they just cower. They won't leave the patio, and

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you're like, what the hell is
happening. Like reflecting back, I looked

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at all of those instances and thought, holy shit, Like what if I

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was interacting with this thing the whole
time and didn't know it was there right

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all prior to the fact of you
understanding some of these things that were happening

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to you. I'm assuming we're just
weird anomalies that you couldn't figure out why

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it was happening to you to begin
with. Because I find the word zapped

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that shows up so many times with
people that have those experiences to feel and

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they use that word. I felt
zapped and felt like I was being watched.

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I've explained to Sean a while ago, I had my own personal experience

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that's not what this shows about.
But I never had the sensation of what

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it feels like to feel like you're
being watched. Sometimes I get the hebg

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bees, But I don't know if
that's what that feeling is. Maybe I'm

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just misconstruing it for myself. But
yeah, that feeling of being watched and

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that zapped and not feeling good and
not having energy and you just want to

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kind of sit down and call it
a day at that point, And that's

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that's terrifying. It was four o'clock
in the afternoon and my husband said,

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you want to sit and watch movies
with me? And I said, no,

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I'm going to bed. I'm going
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like anour in the afternoon. I'm
like, I don't care, I'm going

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to bed. Wow. Wow,
Well, that's amazing that you're able to

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look back after you witness something and
then be able to look backwards in time

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to try to draw those two situations
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And it's pretty interesting within itself.
Yeah, that's what I was chomping at

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the bit about Sean. That's all
what happened before that. Yeah, but

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you haven't seen any physical evidence like
foot prints or broken limbs or anything like

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that. I have had lots of
that. Actually, Oh really, I

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send everything everything that happens I take, I document everything, I take photographic

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evidence. I keep a journal.
I'm very meticulous about it and everything I

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get. I take a picture,
I send it to Sean. I don't

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even say what it is. I
just send it to him and see what

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he by looking at it, what
he thinks, what he said. And

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uh so I send a lot of
stuff to Sean. Probably I have a

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lot of stuff Sean's not seen too. I'm sure probably you're probably when I

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was out at your house, well
the last time, your husband and I

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were out walking around and we saw
some interesting tree breaks, yes, and

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we were looking at you know again, process of elimination. What could it

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be? Could it be natural?
Could it be you know winder? And

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I think we could rule out some
of those things with some of the odd

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ways that they were broken. But
you also have chickens and something that does

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to something that does like to approach
to chicken coop. Now have you been

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able to did you put a camera
out near there or any kind of sensor.

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I have two cameras out there,
one facing the woods behind the chicken

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coop and one facing like you can
see the chicken coop, but it's kind

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of facing the woods past the chicken
coop. And I've gotten some very strange,

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some very strange things. I've gotten
some some eyeshine you can't make You

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can't make out a body, but
you can definitely see eyeshine. They're bright,

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glowing eyes. And the thing about
it is is the wood line behind

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the chicken coop is very steep like, so as soon as you hit that

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wood line, it goes down.
I was gonna say, if I could

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interject your quick when the woods behind
that chicken coop or not conducive to somebody

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just messing around there. It's very
dangerous. In fact, it's it's almost

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at some points damning your vertical to
ascend to get back up once you go

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down it. I misjudged my physical
abilities to do it, and I made

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it. But it was definitely a
workout for my fat ass. And but

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it's it's not for the faintal heart. You'd think because off one part of

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her land it's kind of flat,
but then you start going trying to get

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around to where these chickens are,
and it's definitely you could break your neck

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real quick messing around so whatever's coming
after these chickens or visiting these chickens has

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a good capacity to being able to
traverse that traverse that geography. Yeah,

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but where this eyeshine is in the
trees, I'm estimating based on where it

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landed in the tree in relation to
where I think it was standing. It's

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it's about ten feet because yeah,
because the land troverts is so hard.

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Now, in that one photo I
believe I sent it to Sean, there's

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actually two eyeshine. There's the one
that's standing that's about ten foot, and

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then there's a smaller one off to
the right of it, looking at it,

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looking towards the bigger subject, and
it's shorter. So I believe,

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based on all of the evidence that
I've been able to collect, that I

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at least have an adult and a
juvenile that could come around pass through there.

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Yeah, or even if not,
it's either a little further back or

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it's down off a little embankment.
There's a subjectivity there, but I'm telling

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you, the the area is not
conducive to just somebody falling around or Okay,

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So this brings me to another question. Do you sleep with your blinds

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and windows closed or do you keep
the windows open so you can see outside,

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because I don't know if i'd want
to open my eyes in the middle

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of the night because I gotta go
tinkle and see some maxim things stern at

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me that would kind of creep me
out. I used to sleep with my

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blinds open. I do not anymore. I can't say I blame you.

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I cannot say I blame you.
One night, I was gonna say,

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if you didn't have to pee before, you have no right. There was

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one night that my husband was away
because he works remote from home, so

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sometimes he has to go to wherever
it is that he's that he's working,

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and the blends were open, and
I was going to bed and I looked

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out the blind and I saw these
two red eyes staring back at me.

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And no, I document everything.
So I snapped a photo, got the

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picture of the red eye. I
started searching my house. What could make

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that reflection in the window. Well, there's nothing. All the lights were

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out and I don't have anything red
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I'm a gun tote in Pennsylvania person. So I grabbed my handgun, and

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I grabbed a flashlight, and I
ran around the front of the house where

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these red lights were, and I
couldn't find them, and so I started

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snapping photos and I just kind of
panned the yard and then went back to

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the window. And when I went
back to the window, the same window

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the first picture I took, there
was nothing in the window. But when

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I after I panned and I went
back, there was a handprint in the

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window. Why And it nearly scared
to shoot out of me. I went

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in the house, closed the blind
and never opened them again. I don't

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want to know. Yeah, that's
that's a hard night sleep right there.

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To calm yourself down to be able
to sleep through the night after that,

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that's insane. The photographs question,
you know, again I hit Gwen with

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the battery of questions. Do you
have anything there that could be in red

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reflection? Do you have any electronics
in there? Get the outside her neighbors

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haven't I could, you know theoretically, cause that are they tail lights?

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You know, we went through everything
and nothing, and I've been there on

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the property and I've seen the window
like it. You know, it adds

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up. So again, does she
have something frequenting out there? Yeah?

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I would, I would say so
we word Trish trying to really document it

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and and get proof in and sheet
on top of it. I'll say that

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for anybody listening that has doubts that
she's just another person telling you, No,

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she's she's on top of it.
She sends me, uh, she

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sends me everything for the most part, like if it's new and rather it's

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something important or something not, she
shares it with me and probably with the

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other members of our group so we
can pine about it. And it's important

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to do that. I think it's
the best way to do it because I'm

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not going to have all the answers, but maybe Matt has the answers,

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or maybe Carry or Steve or somebody
has saw something that you know, hope

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I can explain that because I've seen
it here, Like that's that's the power

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of you know, the hive mind, and that's what Gwen's trying to do

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with all that. It's nine thirty, guys. We do have to take

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a quick break and we come back. We'll get James and Henry on board

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to ask a couple of questions and
get a little bit more talking about Got

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Knockers. Folks, stay tuned.
We got the big Foot bulletin coming.

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Right at you as soon as I
can find the damn button here though.

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Ah. Yes, once again you're
listening to another edition of the Sasquatch Experience

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Bullhorn News. And to kick things
up, I'd like to wish a very

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happy birthday this past Friday to an
avid listener and watcher who was yet not

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to miss the show, Miss Valerie
Ryles. She also happens to be my

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best girl. So happy birthday,
Valerie, and thank you for being part

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of this little group onto the news. On May six, the Ford City

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Public Library will play host to Bigfoot
and UFO researcher Stand Gordon. Gordon visited

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the Ford City last October and it
was a very popular program, so he

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was invited back, said Katie Wolf, the libraries program coordinator. The event

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is titled Strange Aspects of Elusive Bigfoot
and it will take place at two pm

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on the event date at the library, which is located at one one three

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six Fourth Avenue in Ford City,
Pennsylvania. Now, I am aware that

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most all of you that are listening
are familiar with Stan Gordon, but if

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not and you're new. Stan Gordon
began his investigating reports of bigfoot sightings in

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Pennsylvania in the late nineteen sixties.
Since then, he's interviewed hundreds of witnesses

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who claimed to him encountered these strange, hairy creatures. Sightings of Bigfoot continued

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to take place yearly in Pennsylvania and
across the country. But why have no

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bodies ever been found? You will
hear about some of the strangest cases ever

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documented about Bigfoot? Could Bigfoot be
something other than an undiscovered animal species?

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Incidents involving Bigfoot and UFOs seen together, Trails of Bigfoot tracks that suddenly and

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abruptly stop with no explanation, and
possible government interest in these incidents are just

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some of the startling details you will
learn about his illustrated lecture. You will

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also hear about the latest Bigfoot in
UFO encounters around the area that have taken

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place the last couple of years.
Mister Gordon will also hold a question and

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answer session and have books and DVDs
available for signing and purchase. Preregistration is

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required for planning purposes. Those seeking
additional information or want to preregister are asked

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to call the library at area code
seven two four seven, six three three

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five nine one again seven two four
seven six, three, three, five

408
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nine one. By May fifth of
this year, when we come back,

409
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the University of Pittsburgh Library has made
a very un unique discovery within their confines

410
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:07.800
of a big Foot movie by George
Ramero. We'll talk about that when we

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419
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filmmaker George A. Romero, discovering
plenty of surprises along the way. Now

420
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:05.480
the team behind the effort has unearthed
yet another unknown bit of Romero's work,

421
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:09.960
and fans of the horror genre will
soon get to experience it. It was

422
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recently announced that Archive has found a
thirty five millimeter negative print of a previously

423
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unseen short film in the George Romero
archival collection, which was acquired by Pitt

424
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:30.159
back in twenty eighteen, and it's
titled Jack Randa Joe. A film synopsis

425
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:37.400
provided in an email from Pitt says
that in nineteen ninety four, Romero traveled

426
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:43.679
to Valencia Community College in central Florida
to make a short film about the swamped

427
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:49.119
dwelling big Foot. Pitt did screen
the film, which was described as being

428
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largely unknown and presumed lost, on
Tuesday, April twelfth during a virtual webinar.

429
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The current event will mark the first
time ever that the film was shown

430
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:06.719
to the public. Thanks again for
listening to this edition of the Sasquatch Experience,

431
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Bigfoot Bullhorn News and until next time, keep your toes in the mud.

432
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.119
What if I don't want to keep
my toes in the mud? I

433
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:28.760
keep your toes in the mud,
all right? Thank you for that vance,

434
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:34.400
great, great segment. As always, mister Stan Gordon, Guys,

435
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.280
get out there and see Stan.
If you haven't had an opportunity to do

436
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:42.920
so, do it. Good guy. Welcome back folk, Sasquatch Experience Sean

437
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.119
Forker, James Baker, Henry May, Vince nesbit our guest tonight when Purcell

438
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:51.719
from Got Knockers from behind tall Tree, She's everywhere, folks, when thanks

439
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:54.559
for joining us tonight. We appreciate
you coming on and talking a little bit

440
00:37:54.559 --> 00:38:00.559
about your big foot journey so far. M Baker, Henry Any questions you

441
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:05.920
gentlemen have because Vans and I tend
to hog their segment. Yeah, I

442
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:10.920
wanted to ask Gwen about has she
found any other type of trace evidence around

443
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:17.599
her home, like footprints or strange
odors or anything like that. I we

444
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:23.960
have had we have had periods,
or I should say, episodes where we've

445
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:30.960
had some really strange odors, Like
just smells like garbage. It's garbage mixed

446
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:34.000
with death. I don't know how
else to describe it. It's terrible.

447
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.519
Like we've come home from places and
you get out of the car and you're

448
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:42.119
like, what the hell is that
small? Like, it's just terrible.

449
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:47.559
The ground that we have is not
super conducive to prints because it's a lot

450
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:54.519
of shale. I have captured two. They're hard to look at when you're

451
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:58.519
on the picture, but if you're
standing over top of them, you're like,

452
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:00.920
oh my gosh, that could be
a foot print. I've snapped photos

453
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:07.639
of them and documented like their size, but when you look at the picture,

454
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:09.719
it's just hard to see. So
I don't I haven't bothered to even

455
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:15.400
share them with anybody because they're just
not conclusive enough. And I mean we

456
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:21.280
have, like Sean said, we
have had quite a few tree breaks,

457
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:25.440
branches ripped out of trees and then
shoved back in behind the break, like

458
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.400
outside branches broken and then shoved back
in the tree. We've had. Um,

459
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:37.119
there's actually a tree branch that points
to my house and down in the

460
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:44.159
woods that I've never seen before.
And I've tried to find where this tree

461
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:47.079
could have come from, and I
there, I can't find where the rest

462
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:52.800
of the tree is, but it's
leaned up against another tree, and it's

463
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:55.480
pointed right at my house like a
marker, like to say, this is

464
00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:00.719
the place. I don't know.
I mean, I I just know that

465
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:05.760
that's there. I don't know what
the purpose is of is it or or

466
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:09.119
anything. But yeah, we've had
those, and I didn't catch a I

467
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:16.000
was out with Steve actually and we
caught a big a big hair like a

468
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:21.760
piece of hair that was ripped off, and we we split the sample.

469
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:24.239
He has half and I have half, but we haven't done it. Neither

470
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:29.079
one of us have done anything with
the sample yet. Now we've heard some

471
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:35.960
vocalizations out there too. Have you
were you able to get any on recordings?

472
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:43.000
Gwynn Funny you should ask um.
I do not go out there without

473
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:46.840
a voice recorder. Carrie and I
sleep in the backyard a lot we've cut,

474
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:51.480
We pitched tents. We sleep out
there. I leave a voice recorder

475
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.679
out all night long. I got
the one night we were out there,

476
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:59.440
I heard a giggle in the middle
of the night. I thought it,

477
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:04.239
so I just rolled back over and
went to sleep. That same night she

478
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.239
heard my voice come from the chicken
coop, so she thought I was up.

479
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:12.480
She got six in the morning.
I can assure you, if I'm

480
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:15.239
not working, I'm not up at
six in the morning. She got out

481
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:20.559
of the tent and I was sound
asleep, snoring away in my cousin me

482
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.159
when I got up, And when
I did finally get up seven thirty,

483
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:25.960
she was waiting for me, and
she's like, do you talk to your

484
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.119
chickens, and I said, yeah, you say, and I'm like,

485
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:36.320
hello, ladies, and she narrowly
freaked out because that's exactly the voice that

486
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:39.440
came from the chicken coop. She
swore it was me saying hello ladies to

487
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:46.519
the chickens, and I happened to
have that on voice recording, So it's

488
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:52.519
pretty wild. Yeah. I haven't
shared those with anybody, with anybody yet.

489
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.519
Those I remember Carrie talking about that
when we were up there, Gwen.

490
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:04.599
But again, Vance, you know, let's think back to some other

491
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.840
folks we've had on the program.
Yeah right, Julie, Yeah right,

492
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:14.440
Wrench and everything that she had.
That's, you know, not uncommon to

493
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:19.880
hear of that sort of behavior,
Gwen. It's this is the stuff that

494
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:24.920
drives me and keeps me going when
you can start connecting behaviors and repeat patterns,

495
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:29.159
and hey, not only is it
happening to these folks. Hey,

496
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:31.400
guess what that was in North Carolina. This is in Pennsylvania. It's the

497
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:36.480
same name, right, I guess
what. They've probably reported that behavior in

498
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.639
Washington, Oregon, California, everywhere
in between. Well, I have heard

499
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:49.800
of circumstances coming from the Pacific Northwest
with mimics of the same effect, and

500
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.960
I'm I, you know, wonder
to myself, is the mimic done just

501
00:42:53.000 --> 00:43:00.119
to calm down the creatures in the
area with something that it's familiar with,

502
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:06.039
like you, Gwen saying you know, hello ladies or whatever to the chickens.

503
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:08.719
That that keeps the chickens calm.
They know who you are. And

504
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:15.280
then here's maybe a predatory beast saying
the same thing to keep everything calm while

505
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.519
they try to figure out how to
get a chicken. I don't know.

506
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:25.559
I'm just speculating, but what's the
point other than it's to calm the environment

507
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:34.039
down while it's doing a predatory move. I don't know. It's creepy.

508
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:39.960
It's beyond creepy, actually that I
have no words. It's weird because we

509
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:45.280
have a rooster in with the hens, and there are some nights when you

510
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:49.719
don't hear those chickens at all,
and there are other nights with that rooster

511
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:53.039
is crowing for all its words.
And I'm like something something's going on outside.

512
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:57.039
And I have walked out there with
a flashlight, gone down to the

513
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:00.239
chicken coop and I'm in the woods
with a flashlight. I don't see a

514
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.760
damn thing. That rooster is upset
about something. He's just growing like there's

515
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:08.760
no tomorrow. I know when something's
going on out there, because right,

516
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:15.840
yeah, I mean I couldn't.
I could imagine there'd be times that you

517
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:22.840
know, normal known wildlife might be, you know, being predacious around a

518
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:27.039
chicken coop, like a fox or
coyote or something. I could see that

519
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:30.840
and it disturbs them. But when
you do go out there, those type

520
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:36.280
of creatures seem to be very wary
and we'll just leave the area instantly.

521
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.840
But to go out there with a
flashlight, um, yeah, I think

522
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:45.480
I'm bringing a little bit more than
just a flashlight with me to go out

523
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:49.840
there. I don't know. I
might want the you know, air National

524
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.360
Guard, second Airborne out there with
me or something. I don't know.

525
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:59.239
That's crazy. Yeah, I'm not
going to say that. I don't get

526
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:04.360
scared because I'm a tough girl,
and I will go out there, and

527
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.920
I will go out there alone with
my gun and my flashlight. But I'm

528
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:12.800
still shitting my pants blaw. Yeah. Likewise, I know I will know.

529
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:17.639
I still know. Yeah, Well, kudos to you. Do you

530
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:22.840
think how many years have you lived
out there in general. Seven, do

531
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:27.800
you think as you develop your land
and your farm and your areas and stuff

532
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.800
like that, do you see that
draws it in more or it makes it

533
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:36.320
go way more. I think it
draws it in more, to be honest.

534
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:39.159
We just had quite a bit of
landscaping done and they came with a

535
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.480
big piece of machinery and they tore
that whole one section of forest down,

536
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:50.199
and I immediately, like I came
home from work and I saw that all

537
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.559
these trees were gone, and I
went, oh my god. And my

538
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:57.400
husband was like what and that the
landscaper was standing right there, and I'm

539
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:01.079
like, somebody's not gonna be happy
about this, and he wasn't. And

540
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:05.239
the next morning I come out there
was a tree broke at like five feet

541
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:08.639
in the air and it was standing
the day before. Like he lets us

542
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:15.639
know when they're not happy about something. Because yeah, I wondered that,

543
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.679
because I found that when like I
got a little bit of land, and

544
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:23.280
I found when I developed things,
the animals go over and look at what

545
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:27.639
I was doing, Like I've been
making this area for a gold little mini

546
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.800
putt. And when I started cutting
the trees down and I started making them

547
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:36.199
into a certain thing, or when
I started putting the haybells in or moving

548
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.559
stuff around, the next day the
game, the game camps will be full

549
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:44.920
of deer in that area, like
what's he doing over there? Well,

550
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:47.039
the next day when I came back
in, there would be deer poop and

551
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:52.119
places that weren't you know, like
you start to know your land, you

552
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.679
know absolutely. And the thing is
is, like I wondered that with a

553
00:46:54.719 --> 00:47:00.280
lot of times, because we talk
about um DeForest Station and we talked about

554
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:05.920
a variety of how a lot of
times we're stepping into nature's areas and then

555
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:08.159
we're wondering, well, why are
their bears downtown? Well, because downtown

556
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:13.639
used to be a forest. You
know, they don't know the difference.

557
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:16.920
They just know there's food and the
big cans, you know. Like,

558
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:21.239
so I wondered the same thing with
you was as you developed it, Like

559
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.360
you said, you were growing corn, you got chickens. Now do you

560
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:29.199
think you're drawing in more? You
know, they're still keeping their zone.

561
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:30.679
Like I said, when you knocked
down a tree, they know it and

562
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:34.639
they're pissed off. But like,
do you think you draw them in more?

563
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.079
Like, oh, look, there's
some corn on a you know,

564
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:42.360
and that way have something to eat
more. And I I gotta be honest,

565
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:45.840
when when Carrie and I had that
experience with the mimicking in the outside

566
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:51.440
the chicken coop, I had to
really sit back and reflect and wonder how

567
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:54.679
long have they been watching me?
Have they been here this whole time?

568
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:59.559
And it's not the first time.
Like the night that Sean and Matt were

569
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:01.800
at the house and we did some
researching in the woods, I knew the

570
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:05.599
next day that they were not happy
about the group of us being out in

571
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:10.519
the woods because they there were tree
breaks right along the edge of the property.

572
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:15.000
That that tree was not broken yet
last night when we were out here,

573
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:17.880
but this morning it's snapped off at
five feet. I mean, there's

574
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:24.480
been multiple times where I distinctly get
it. Like the next morning, I

575
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:27.400
walk up, I wake up,
I go outside, and I'm like,

576
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.840
yep, somebody is not happy,
Like I just know they they let me

577
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:37.159
know, so I don't they have
to have been watching me for quite some

578
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.960
time. I don't know what the
fascination is. I'm really a boring person.

579
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:50.159
But it's the interaction. I think
you are interacting, you're responding and

580
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:54.079
you haven't taken anything away that they
still find interesting, like the chickens.

581
00:48:54.119 --> 00:49:00.119
The chickens are still there. And
have you had any chickens killed? Yes?

582
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:06.440
We actually uh I came home one
day from work and there was a

583
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:10.360
chicken loose. And now these are
fully caged chickens, roof walls, the

584
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:15.199
whole nine yards. I do.
I have an electric fence around the whole

585
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:20.400
bottom half of the chicken coop so
nothing gets Yeah, don't be on it.

586
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:24.079
I got zapped the other day.
But uh, I'm not not peeing

587
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:29.079
on it. By the way,
I just touched an accident. Thank you

588
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:34.159
my picture in my head. After
I said it, I was like,

589
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:40.079
I should probably can clarify that.
Oh, but uh I came home and

590
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:44.119
found this chicken out. I got
her back in the pen and decided to

591
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.960
go and site where it was she
was getting out of. And the whole

592
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:52.599
side of the pen, the bottom
half had been ripped away. Now it's

593
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:58.159
on there with some pretty sizeable you
have to nail these U shaped brackets in

594
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:02.840
to hold and the U shaped brackets
were all just hanging there. Something had

595
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:07.559
put its hands in there and ripped
that fencing away. And then when I

596
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.079
got around to the backside. The
top half of the chicken coop is just

597
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:15.440
chicken wire. It wasn't torn,
it was just pulled away and rolled back

598
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:20.280
like a sardine can. And I
had feathers everywhere. Yeah, I was

599
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.719
missing probably about three or four chickens. They were gone. But it's not

600
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:29.519
hastily built. It's not ramshacky.
It's a pretty nice structure that these chickens

601
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:34.039
staying. So, I mean,
it's it's more elaborate than it sounds.

602
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:37.840
But she's right. It was peeled
back and it's just it is interesting,

603
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:45.440
tried. Its interesting that any kind
of research that you've done previous to the

604
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:51.719
seven years that you've lived there at
all through the township or newspaper articles or

605
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:58.199
library. Our house was built in
ninety nine and we're only the second owners

606
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:02.760
of the house. Previous to that, it was just farmland. Now the

607
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:10.519
only the only thing I can find
is that there were Susquehannock Indians that lived

608
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:15.599
in Sunbury and they had a trail
that went from Sunbury to Shamokin and it

609
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:22.400
went right through my backyard. So
that's the only thing I can find historic.

610
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:31.639
It's it's a farm in the mountainous
kind of yeah, hello type area.

611
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:37.039
It's it's very interesting to describe the
property she lives in and the area

612
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:45.519
it's in because it's a farmland,
but it's in the hills with some steep

613
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:50.199
ash drops off in her backyard.
It's very interesting. It's not what you

614
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:53.559
typically think of farmland. That's why
I wanted to kind of add some elaboration

615
00:51:53.599 --> 00:52:01.239
on that. Right, very different. So is it So it's going to

616
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:05.920
sound like a silly question, Gwen, is this a good thing for you?

617
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:08.199
Or is this something that, Yeah, I didn't sign up for this.

618
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:15.480
You know, in the beginning,
I would have said I didn't sign

619
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:22.719
up for this. But learning everything
that I've learned, and I'm far from

620
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:28.239
an expert, and I learned new
things every day, most of it on

621
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:30.679
my own, but a lot of
it, you know, I learn a

622
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:34.360
lot from other people that I can
get a chance to interact within me and

623
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:40.119
talk to at camp conferences and festivals. But I now think it's I don't

624
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:43.920
know. I've kind of taken it
on kind of as as my duty,

625
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.360
like I have a duty now,
Like I don't know why these things are

626
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:51.280
happening. I don't know why they're
happening to me. I don't know what

627
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:55.119
the fascination is that they've decided to
interact with me on my neighborhood because I

628
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:59.559
can go to my neighbors and I'm
constantly asking them, have you heard anything?

629
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:01.360
Have you seen anything? And they
think I'm crazy, all of them.

630
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:07.480
I'm crazy. They're like, no, Gwen, we haven't seen Bigfoot,

631
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:15.880
right. But I just think now
it's kind of like my job.

632
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:21.360
You're a great student, you really, I think you you learn, you

633
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:25.039
asked questions, you make suggestions.
Yeah, you're not afraid to get your

634
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:30.000
hands dirty. Uh. Great to
work with. I'll say that. I,

635
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:35.760
you know, enjoy our research partnership, which is only going to amp

636
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:38.559
up this year because we've got so
much to do. It seems like every

637
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:42.440
day something news coming along the pipeline
that we just got to get our hands

638
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:44.599
on. It's just finding time because
you know what, folks, we are

639
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:50.599
real people with real lives too.
She got back to this. Yeah,

640
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:52.960
but it's it's great stuff. And
I'm I'm privileged that you came on the

641
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:57.239
show with us tonight. I'm glad
you're in the search. It's been glad

642
00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:00.000
to know you and to research with
you, So tell us a little bit

643
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:05.320
about the show where folks can listen, and who's been the favorite person you've

644
00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:12.159
interviewed so far besides me. Well, Um, the show is called From

645
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:16.119
Behind Tall Trees. It's on the
c a ARC Universal Network on YouTube.

646
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:22.280
Um. This year, I'm doing
the show solo. I'm probably gonna have

647
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:27.760
a like a guest co host from
time to time. And who my favorite

648
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:36.800
guest, oh, besides Sean would
have to be h would have to be

649
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:45.440
Matt cheap plug. Cheap plug.
Yeah, he's a wealth of knowledge and

650
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:49.800
coming from the background that he has, Like I really lean on him,

651
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:54.039
like when I send you guys those
eyeshine photos, I really lean on him

652
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:59.119
to say, you know, hey, we need to get out there and

653
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:01.119
we need to measure where this stuff
is because he's great at that kind of

654
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:07.400
stuff. That's what he does exactly, that it's his background. So yeah,

655
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:13.239
I I can't thank you guys enough
because if it wasn't for Matt,

656
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:16.000
I would have never met you.
Because at Salt Fork, Matt was very

657
00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:19.639
adamant about you got to meet my
friend Sewn, you gotta meet my friend

658
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:22.440
Sean, and I gotta you know, I was just saying to my mom

659
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:25.679
yesterday, I'm like, you know, this big Foot community, it's like

660
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:30.519
a double edged sword. You either
you either find the best people you've ever

661
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:37.519
met in your entire life and you
become or you find ship bags that are

662
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:40.760
just awful to deal with, which
you never met them. And yeah,

663
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:45.960
so I've gotten super lucky that I've
gotten to meet great people. So I

664
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:52.239
don't I never regret going down this
rabbit hole, because without this rabbit hole,

665
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.960
I wouldn't have Sean, Matt,
Steve Carrie, I wouldn't have the

666
00:55:57.039 --> 00:56:00.199
guys at the c Aarc that have
become like brothers to me. Like it's

667
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:07.679
just become we're like a family.
It is very much so right, and

668
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:10.840
we're all in this together, like
it or not to find out, you

669
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:15.239
know, answers right, and to
think about this when I guess I'll cap

670
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:20.400
the thought the show off with this
final thought besides giving you guys an opportunity

671
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:22.719
to give yours. You know,
this research has been going on now since

672
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:29.119
the fifties and we're still no damn
closer to finding the truth than we were

673
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:35.239
back then. So eventually something's got
to give. And you know what better

674
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:37.840
group of people to research with than
you. Guys. Honestly, Baker,

675
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:42.440
you're coming up almost in twenty years
of research yourself. Now. The thought

676
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:45.880
about that you've been involved in this
for almost as long it's crazy to think

677
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:51.079
about. So guys all that that's
kind of my final thoughts, and I'll

678
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:57.519
go ahead and give you yours,
and I know she's got go ahead.

679
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:02.400
Uh well, Gwen, thank you. Because when people share their story,

680
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:07.719
whether it's really brief or it's in
depth, and I think we all go

681
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:12.079
through the same thing. We have
the image in our head as you're telling

682
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:16.920
the story, because you're illustrating images
as a story is being told. And

683
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:22.880
that's how I draw a correlation to
what it is that you're sharing and an

684
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:31.440
understanding of when you see something for
one time and it changes your life,

685
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:38.840
It truly changes your life. And
I will say a thousand witnesses that have

686
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:45.920
seen something once and it's changed their
life and they need to know answers.

687
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:52.039
And then I'm left holding the bag
going, maybe this damn thing is smarter

688
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.360
than all of us, and that's
why we don't have any answers yet.

689
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:58.760
How crazy is it? Just like
Sean said, you know, we've been

690
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:02.880
intently researching this since the fifties,
it's been around a lot longer than that,

691
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:09.400
but intently researching it, and yet
we still don't have any more answers.

692
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:16.079
Really, what's see an intellect level
here that it can actually be seen,

693
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:20.039
and yet we still don't know what
it is. But thank you for

694
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:24.639
sharing the experiences, the story,
the witness, the evidence, and thanks

695
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:31.000
for coming on the show. I
greatly appreciate it. Yeah, it takes

696
00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:36.960
a lot of bravery to share your
account sometimes because you'll know who to talk

697
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:45.320
to sometimes, right, Yeah,
that's true. Matt Arner writes, Gwen

698
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:49.039
is a fantastic host on her show
and was an awesome guest tonight. Great

699
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.800
show tonight. Thanks Matt for listening. Always support Thank you, Matt.

700
00:58:53.960 --> 00:59:01.280
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701
00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:06.280
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702
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703
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:14.679
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704
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:16.400
to make money off he We're just
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705
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:22.559
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706
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:27.760
have real jobs that we generally enjoy, so uh, you know, this

707
00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:30.679
is just a little extra way to
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708
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:37.360
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709
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:44.599
at sasquatch experience dot com. There
you go, Baker, anything final,

710
00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:47.679
not much. I mean, I
thank you for your story, and I'm

711
00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:52.440
glad that you're you're you're an average
person because a lot of times when people

712
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:57.440
start talking about cohabitation and things like
that, they go a little they go

713
00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:00.519
a little extra. It was over
in my house us. I gave it

714
01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:05.840
pie. You know some of the
things like dance says, you know,

715
01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:08.000
it's you know, I've always said, it's either got to be smarter than

716
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:12.639
us or non existent. There has
to be one way or the other,

717
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:15.519
because there's no way that it's just
an animal, because if it's just an

718
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:22.119
animal, we had just hit it
with a car, you know. True.

719
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:25.480
Thank you for your time and thank
you for answering my random question.

720
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:32.000
So thank you for having me.
It was fantastic. And banker is going

721
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:39.480
to kill us with his cop COVID. What do you when? Where can

722
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:44.199
folks find you? At and where
are you going to be next? Well,

723
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:46.800
May sixth, I'm gonna be in
Salt Fork. I actually secured a

724
01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:51.480
vendor spot there, so you will. I will be there all day,

725
01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:55.119
and then on the following weekend I'll
be in Caledonia, New York. And

726
01:00:55.159 --> 01:01:00.159
then and the third weekend in May, I will be at Penhurst in nearer

727
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:12.400
Philly for our show, and then
I'm taking the weekend off as well.

728
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:15.320
Gwen again, thanks for joining us. We appreciate having you on. We'll

729
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:17.719
have you on again here because there's
always more to talk about. Henry,

730
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:22.639
why don't you take us out with
those dulcet tones. Y'all be good or

731
01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:27.480
be good at it. You've been
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732
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:30.880
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733
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:43.000
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734
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:47.199
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