Dec. 24, 2025

EP 137: We Be Squatchin'

EP 137: We Be Squatchin'
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Season 12

Forker and Crew talk about recent passings, ask the question "Are we part of the problem in the field?", and discuss the Investigation Bigfoot final episode.

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Views and opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch Experience

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do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the host, sponsors,

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or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. As always, listener discretion

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is advised. We got some one or something crawling around

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out your bay. It was Was it a person or

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an animal? Or I can't go. I know that my

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thunderway came on and I did that with a Glenn.

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They did being running across the good bye man.

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There's something looked by the man.

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I don't know what it was.

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Back in two thousand and five, we set out with

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one goal to give voice to the mystery and those

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who pursue it. Sasquatch Experience Podcast has been your go

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to source for serious Bigfoot discussion, where we separate fact

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from folklore. Always grounded in research and respect. We've interviewed

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eye witnesses, experts since to the like because understanding Bigfoot

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isn't just about belief, It's about the journey. Nearly two

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decades later, we're still chasing shadows and sharing stories. The

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search never stopped. Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience. Hello, get

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somebody out here and welcome everyone to the Sasquatch Experience

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for Monday, September twenty second, twenty twenty five, Episode one

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hundred and thirty seven. Guys, we squatching. That's the name

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wow of tonight's episode. So how are you, guys? It's

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been a little bit everything going well on your ends

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so far?

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Yeah, I mean we're on a weather roller coaster where

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one day it's one, and the next day it's fifty,

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and then the following day it's you know, twenty four,

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and then the next day it's up in the forty.

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So yeah, it's a weather roller coaster here. Yeah, definitely happens.

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Definitely part of the problem there vance with sinuses and

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sicknesses and everything else going around out there. But tis

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the season to be jolly follow la la la, thinking

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of which, due to an oversight, our last show has

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finally been uploaded a podcast form today. So for those

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of you who are last minute shoppers, you do have

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the third annual Shoppers Guide for the special Squadron in

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your life dropping it the last minute. For those who

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peruse the podcast, it's there.

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Hurry up and get it done, have you it?

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Don't complain it in under the tree.

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Yeah, you know, not to change the subject, but you know,

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generally the second biggest shopping season is right after Chris

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was because.

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Everyone yes, sorts, yep, right, Yeah, gift cards and everybody

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wants to return stuff and it's something that they really wanted.

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Yes, and they generally they generally buy forty more than

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they did the gift card was worth.

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That's why I get a really good commodity for stores.

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Right, It's pretty true. Whoa wow? Man?

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The first time that word has been used on this.

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To wow it's a family friendly show.

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It was the first time that word has been used

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on this channel, James Boker, So, uh, shame on you, Shane.

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They're still overnight shipping. And of course, as you saw

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the messages and the hello's rolling in from our audience,

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Guy's good evening, Scott our good man, Scott There Steve

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Hyde who was listening, but I think he fell asleep.

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He's gonna watch tomorrow because you know, we do have

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that tendency to put people to sleep. Yeah, but from.

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Back to time we love saying, yeah, don't we have

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a belated birthday to throw out to somebody Brian something

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or other.

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Yeah, our ep Brian Corbin is uh, you know, happy birthday, Brian.

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We all got you earlier, but we'd like to get

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you again on the air and make it formal and official.

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As Matt Arner sparting the Amish look this week, it's

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for a good cause, folks, it's for a good cause.

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Oh look, hey, that hat will fit over your headphones. Matt,

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don't try it. There it is. See there we go. Yeah,

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there's the Amish look.

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He's uh, Matt butter Maker. Yes, Matt Buttermaker.

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Yes.

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Not to be confused with the other Matt. That makes

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something a lot of bullshit sometimes.

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Anyhow, Wow, language that flies's you know, it's been a

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rough couple of weeks for us, guys.

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You know, we have to be remiss if we didn't

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talk about the passing of Steven Stroyferd guest on our program. Yep,

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back on the six. I can't believe it's been you know,

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fourteen fifty sixteen days already. It's you know, quite a

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shock to some of us age of sixty. If you

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weren't familiar with Steven Stroifrit was the purveyor of Bigfoot

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books before it unfortunately burnt to the ground. He was

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the admin of the Coalition for Critical Thinking and Bigfoot

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Research on Facebook and a member of the Bluff Creek Project,

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big contributor to the field of sasquatchery, passed away age

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sixty guys, And you know, we were just I was

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just starting to know Steve and have conversations with him,

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and he was planning on doing a part two with us,

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and we were gonna, you know, be on with more

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Patterson Gimlin discussion and other things. And so you know,

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as we always say, and many others have say, you know,

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tomorrow's aren't guarantees, so seize the moments when you can, folks.

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Sad news, and this has just been a hell of

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a year for this as losing those Yes, we have

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lost quite a few this year, and I helped twenty

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twenty six put some brakes on that.

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Yeah, indeed, you know we lost Fred Salucas well a

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few weeks ago, and it's just doctor Meldrum. The list

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goes on. And of course it's hard to not mention, folks,

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because you know, I went back and forth rather I

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was going to bring this up or not, because you know,

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I was personally attacked on our on my personal page

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by doctor John Barnchuck, and uh, when I posted our tribute,

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I don't even want to say a tribute to Steven Streifferd.

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I just posted our interview with him so folks could

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kind of get a semblance of the idea of the

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kind of person he was, because I really felt it

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was a good interview. And then all of a sudden

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it became a you know, we're part of the problem

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out there that promoting people over the research. And I

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took great, great umbrage with that. And you know, it

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takes a lot for me to get riled up. Not

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younger Fork or I had a fought you, you know,

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real quick, but this one, I kind of it just

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set me off. And it's hard because guys, while we

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promote the subject and want to talk about bigfoot research

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and that's really where we should be focused, that people

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are just as important. And you've heard me say it,

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I'm just a footnote in this story, you know, a

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paragraph on a page somewhere that's going to be written

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in this monumental story of the discovery of Sasquatch. And

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you know, those of us that have had a high

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stakes in that, are have really had a part in that,

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are very worthy of being mentioned and very worthy of

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being discussed, and without us, without the people searching, no

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one else is doing it, and there's no story. There's

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no story. So yeah, maybe we are a little guilty

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of that. And but that's you know, I don't hold

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that guilt, and I don't think that we promote it

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more than we promote the research. And I think that's

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where the difference is. And you know the problem I

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have is when you've got an asshole like that guy,

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is that you know, when he failed on his own

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mission and his book grasping sascock or whatever he calls it.

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Oh, but I can't think, uh.

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You know, you know, he you know, didn't took it,

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didn't take a moment to promote that. In the thread

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when we were arguing, Diddy, you know, mentioned oh, my book,

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And you know, when you failed just as much as

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everybody else is I think for some reason, when you

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have a PhD or something, it hurts more when you lose. Yeah,

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and when you can't prove anything that his scientific way,

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which by the way, is no different than anybody others

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scientific way. He just put in a book and was

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proud of it. And you know, we should all be

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proud of books. But was it a New York Times bestseller?

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I don't know, but uh, you know, to attack us

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because we do focus on the contributors and we think

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it's support. It was just stupid and it was probably

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the guess mistake he'd make, because when you make an

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enemy of me, I don't go away lightly. In fact,

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most of the time I win in ways that are

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just you know, well, we don't need to get into that.

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But yeah, well, considering the fact we've made what almost

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three quarters of a million dollars, right, isn't that? Yeah? Right? Money? Sure?

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Making money off this field. I would love to any folks,

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any of you want to see our balance sheets, I'd

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be glad to show you how much.

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They all have a minus sign in front of the

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dollar amount.

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We don't make enough through advertising to even pay for

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our studio. I pay for that myself, And so you know,

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let's not talk like we're making thousands of dollars on

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a podcast talking about Bigfoot. First of all, it's a

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niche subject, right, Like we knew going into this it

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wasn't going to be a profit maker.

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This has already been for fun and it's been a

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passion thing right, and for fun. It's not about the money, right.

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And an outlet for us to talk about you know,

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what we do in our journey and people listen, or

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we wouldn't be doing it. We probably would do it

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if nobody was listening anyhow, because it's fun to get

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together and talk. But you know, why do people like

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that guy who fail in their own quests wipe out

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on their way out? You know, it's always the same mo.

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I'm better than you, I'm scientific than you, My work

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is critical. You're all clowns, yet we all end up

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at the same space.

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Yeah, James, I really think the problem isn't as much

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the research or the researchers. I think it's staying relevant

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when you feel you have to be. Like, there's a

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few of us that I love as a person, and

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I'm not going to mention their name, but like it

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seems like whenever someone's not thinking them directly or they

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get it at a certain level, they either find a

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way to sabotaze themselves or go completely off the rails

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so that someone will pay attention to them.

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I mean, away us the older class. Big footers to

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me remind me of influencers.

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If they're not getting the clicks, then we have to

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make a noise.

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But like I like, there.

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Are certain people in this community that I wouldn't.

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Pay to see them talk.

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Not because I don't believe in them, not because whatever,

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but I know that if I show up at the

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bar at ten thirty, they're gonna give me that whole

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conversation and twenty more I wanted, and I didn't pay.

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I didn't pay seventy five bucks to see him. But

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then the opposite was like Meldrum, who I loved, and

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anybody ever said anything bad about Meldrum, don't do it

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near me, Okay. But the thing is is like he

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was a guy that I ran into randomly, but when

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he talked.

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If I could get a ticket, I just sat through it.

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Whether I forty times he was he was an honestly

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good man. And that's what upsessed me a lot of

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time about this field is is there's some honestly good

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people that believe what they believe and they're doing what

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they can and they get shit on because of the

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subject matter. Like like BEFO, I'll tell you I'm the.

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Same with Coleman. I'm the same with Coleman. I know

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what Coleman is. Don't get me wrong, He's.

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Not a He's he Bigfoot is a business. He believes

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what he believes, and he reads what he reads and

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he knows what he's talking about. But at the end

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of the day, when they all go, well he's a

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huckster and blah blah blah, no, no, no, he made a

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deal with you because it's a business first, a passion sector.

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Right, you know, you know with uh, doctor Meldrum, I

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don't believe that he got into this community to be

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in the community. Evidence was brought to him, and he

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had taken a lot of interest in the evidence that

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was brought to him and research it, and that's what

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really set him off on this path. I don't believe

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that doctor Meldrum, you know, said you know what, I

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want to get into the bigfoot research field. The evidence

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was brought to him. And as far as Lauren Coleman

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is concerned, I have to give Lauren Coleman the kudos

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to the fact he's the one that brought me into

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this field. Because the first book I purchased from him

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was Cryptozoology A through Z and I bought that book

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and I started reading it and I'm like, Wow, this

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is really interesting stuff. And that's what brought me into

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the field. So there's kind of a different correlation between

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those two gentlemen. But I have to agree with you, James.

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You know, these guys were not really set up to, oh,

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we're gonna just be the dominant celebrities and everybody's just

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gonna drop to a knee and bow down before us. No,

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that really never was their intent at all. No.

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And you know, and so when I bring this back

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to us and you know, the accusations that we just

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you know, is this a cash play? You know, I

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think it's important we start, you know, we remind people

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why we're into this, you know. And and I'll allow

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you guys the opportunity. But for me, we got a

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train coming now, it's the Holiday train, uh Express. It's

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not a show without a train. Yeah, anyhow, and you know,

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for me, and I think, you know, we'll transition to

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investigation bigfoot here in a little bit, Matt that I

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think we cap it off pretty nicely. And for me,

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it's that there's people seeing something they can't explain, and

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they're everyday people like you and me who had no

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interest in the subject. Whatsoever. We're going through their normal,

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everyday lives and seeing something they can't explain or see

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something that's not supposed to exist, and it changed their life.

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So they got on the internet and found some people

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that they want to talk to about it. And that's

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why I stay in this to talk to those people,

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to let them know that, hey, yep, there's a good

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chance you're not crazy. You know that you're seeing something

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other people are seeing and reporting, And that's why I

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stay in it. Listen, I have a real job, I

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have family, I have friends. A lot of my friends

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are associated with this field, but I have a lot

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of friends that aren't associated with this field. But I'll

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tell you what. There came a point in time where

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people stop laughing about me looking for bigfoot, and we're

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really interested as the why or why do you do it?

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Why have you spent a good part of your life?

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And I'll tell you you know, and for me, there's

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a science behind it. There really is. And for those

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that say we're unscientific or whatnot, I have an ample

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sized posterior. You could puck her up and.

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Yeah, true, you know. I have a work associate that

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had no idea of anything of the Sasquatch and and

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he's headquartered in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and he came down

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to us, to the facility. Anyway, the whole conversation came

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up with this podcast that we're doing, and he's like, what.

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I spent an hour and a half with him, and

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at the end of the hour and a half, he

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was like, I had no idea this was going on.

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This is absolutely fascinating to me. And now when I

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just saw him a couple of weeks ago, well not

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even a couple of weeks ago, about a week ago,

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he came down, you know, to do his business again,

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and I just so happened to be wearing my God

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Knocker shirt and he's like, got any new stuff on

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the Sasquatch. I'm like, yeah, I always do. Always reach

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out to me. I will give you information that will

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you know, open up your mind to the possibility of

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all of this. He's like, I find this so fascinating

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just having that one person just kind of step over

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the line and say, Wow, this is insane. This this

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could actual be a thing. And my day is made.

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I mean, I just get in my vehicle and I

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drive away with a big old grin on my face

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because hey, somebody else has now taken interest in this,

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just by all the evidence I presented to him.

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You know, does anybody else chuckle when they call it

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the Sasquatch.

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One?

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Right, Yeah, there's only one.

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It's not a nessy.

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That's true.

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You know, Scott our good friend posts. I don't think

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that anyone who truly are trying to legitimately research improve

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sasquatch exists is in it for the money. And you

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know that's true.

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Yes, you're not going to be a good Scott. Yeah,

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it's a good point.

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Plus on the high end. But like when you think

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about that and players in the.

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Game, they're not on the high end.

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Believe no, Cliff Cliff doesn't engagements to fund the museum.

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Yeah yeah, and that's and you think about that, but

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that's pouring it back into a passion. Yes, dollar we

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make that we're not donating. They're given away by the

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way the people goes into the show.

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Yep. I have to quickly give a shout out to

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Ken Gerhardt. Unexpectedly he had sent me after he did

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our show, unexpectedly sent me his Mothman book that he

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and you know he signed it for me and I

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was like, wow, that was a wonderful surprise. I really

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appreciated that. So thanks to Ken if he happens to

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be watching, and I did send him a thank you

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through a text. But you know, that goes into part

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of my collection of everybody else that has sent me

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books that were autographed to me from you know, Ryan

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Sprague and Lyon Strickler and Shannon and it just the

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list goes on. But yeah, I wanted to throw that

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out there. That was very nice aken to do that.

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But again, you talk about people who accused of profiting

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and making money off this. You know, this is how

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folks pay for their research. None of us are funded

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by National Geographic or independently uber wealthy where we could

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continue to do this without a real job, like I can't.

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I want a job. No, I can't either, right, And.

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I think you know, again, we go into these and

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we have to spend time on it to talk aboutnefolks

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that go up to the big Foot, everything to do

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with big fun Can you come and listen to these podcasts?

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And I don't want people to be contaminated with the

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fact that, oh, you know, they make money off this.

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We don't make money.

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Nope, no, no, we spend a lot of money.

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We've donated a lot of money.

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Yes, we do. And speaking of donating money, go to

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sasquatch Experience dot com go to what page there sean

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to do Squatch out Hunger before Christmas?

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Yeah, well we have actually it ends tonight. Yeah, at

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midnight we pull it down and we still have some

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more to send in and that's in one of our

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other funds to send over. So by the time we're done,

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we'll have like I think it's six hundred and thirty

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six dollars that we've made.

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Okay, Squatch out Hunger. That's wonderful, you know, which was

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sure that buys a lot of groceries.

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Well, listen, you know, we we had an ambitious goal

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this year, but we also didn't predict a government shutdown,

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and we didn't predict you know, right, you know, lots

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of things that affected families. So I'm happy with that number.

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But even if with our listeners, even even if you

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go outside of the boundaries of you know, the squatch

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on Hunger and you want to donate to a food

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pantry on our behalf, just do it. We don't have

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to have our name attached to it, not at all.

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Just do it, even if it's a box of cheese

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it crackers, just do it.

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We'll send the cheese its to Baker and I. But

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you know, everything else you can do.

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I'm going through my box here. We love Jesus. Yeah,

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we all love takes. It's favorite.

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What were you going to say, buddy, No, I was.

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I was just going to add to even individually. I

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don't want to say too much. I was asked to

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do a big festival in the summertime. I'm not going

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to give too much information yet until every all the inkstride.

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But uh.

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They asked about how we're to stay. They were going

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to put me up in a hotel. They asked about

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speaking fee. They asked about what else they can they

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can give, and I said, listen, I said, I have

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a camper. You know, it's about an hour and fifteen

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minutes away. I'm good the speaking that I as you know,

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I'm a detective with the with the or a police department,

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so I deal with a lot of crimes against children.

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So there is an outfit called the Child's Advocacy Center,

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and they're usually in just about every county or some

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of the bigger counties. So the county that's adjacent to

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where this festival is, my speaking fee is getting donated.

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We did the the Eric Altman's Pennsylvania a Bigfoot camping Adventure.

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Uh I you know, he said, hey, I have money

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here for you for for travel. I said, I'm giving

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that directly to the Fayette County Friends of Animals, So

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I'm not doing it for the money at all. Just

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last the last show, we were talking about I have

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a thousand dollars a gm uh thermal.

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You know how I got that.

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I got that from working overtime shifts all right, you know,

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from from putting myself out there, you know, doing patrol

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shifts that you know, uh from seven seven at night

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to seven in the morning to pay for the equipment

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that I use. And I had to work a lot

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of shifts for that. So but I I know that

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I'm going to put that to good use.

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Matt. Does that not mean more to you than somebody

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giving you the money to purchase that?

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Oh?

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Absolutely, Yeah, that's the point. When you work for it,

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it means so much more to you, and it brings

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more pride into the fact of what it is that

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you're doing. So yeah, kudos to you, brother.

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And again as a whole, this is what we do.

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You know, like I said, if it is about money,

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it's about money that we're that we're raising to to

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give back, you know, scoatch out hunger, going to the

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Child Advocacy Center, h going to animal groups. And I know,

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like Sean, yeah, I mean you you know, have done

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so much for the safe house and and uh you

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do have to at some point introduce your new partner.

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In trans Yes, my baby.

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Yes, But but then again, like I said, we're we're

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doing it for things like that, and you know we're

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again we're we're about going out there. I know with me,

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my my particular fondness is being out there boots on

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the ground, you know, out and and that in itself.

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You don't have to pay me to to to go

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sit in the in the middle of the state forest

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out in Potter County.

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I do that. Yeah. Right, It's just like and.

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I'm gonna say this, it's just like with Henry, you know,

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you can't. You know, Henry has such a passion for

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the history and for the uh for the bush start

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coming out. You don't have to pay him for that

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because he loves Sean. You love everything that that we've

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been doing. You know, Faker, you're the you know, uh,

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the one that keeps us kind of grounded in advance.

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You know, you bring that voice out and uh everything,

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a lot of knowledge on other uh cryptos outside. So

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you know, collectively, we all we all bring some but

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we don't need to get paid if you know, we'd

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be doing this on our own.

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Well, thanks Matt, and we appreciate that very much. That's

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a great sentiment. Thank you.

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I never get tired of hearing about how great we are,

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so keep going on. I'm kenning. Yeah, the research life

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isn't glamorous. So what are the things that one might

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do to bring up to the next generation. Yeah, that's

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a that's a great question, Scott. And you've asked some

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good questions there. We'll get through them. I think to

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the next generation, it's I think learning how to be

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better stewards of what we do. First of all, pick

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up a damn book and read know the history of

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the subject and the people that have helped build the

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history of the subject, Because you don't have to ask

460
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questions when you know the answers already find new questions

461
00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:47.319
and find yourself a mentor, somebody who's trustworthy and semi

462
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:51.960
intelligent to help you understand how to navigate the field

463
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:55.640
and spend time in the field. Learn more than just

464
00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:59.759
about bigfoot, learn more about nature. I think that's the

465
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.440
big one. If you can help navigate the wilderness and

466
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:07.359
navigate the animal life, you do yourself a much better

467
00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:10.519
service than just bigfoot.

468
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:14.799
And always be prepared. Yeah.

469
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.319
And the other thing too is be happy with what

470
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:21.079
you find out there, even if it's not Bigfoot related.

471
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:25.400
And I'm gonna circle all the way back to Stephen

472
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:28.839
Streyfer and he's with the Bluff Creek Project and what

473
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:32.079
did they do. They didn't find bigfoot, but they found

474
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:36.559
a new species of martin And which is which is?

475
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:37.720
You know?

476
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:38.119
Yeah?

477
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:40.839
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a little things like that.

478
00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:45.400
If you're reaching out to someone, to someone that's that's

479
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:50.319
younger or wants to get involved with it, take those uh,

480
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:52.559
take those wins when you find that, you know, And

481
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:57.160
like I said, the Bluff Project, they are they're just

482
00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:59.920
fantastic people. And you never know what you're gonna find

483
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:02.519
at you know, along your journey.

484
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:07.119
I oddly enough found turkeys. I was done my game

485
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:13.960
cams and never Okay, my property, I'm as I can

486
00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:16.640
get most of the pictures dumped down. I've been converting

487
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:18.440
them because I have a lot of the same picture

488
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:20.720
because the wind for the camera, which.

489
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:22.079
I learned a lot about cameras too.

490
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.359
But either way, I'll dump some of them onto my

491
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:27.279
page so you guys can look at them.

492
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:29.440
But I found we had foxes turkeys.

493
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:35.680
Okay, I gotcha? Hey, am I reading this correctly? Is Alex?

494
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:36.200
Uh?

495
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:40.960
Alex? You're the best brother?

496
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:42.359
We love Alex?

497
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:47.799
Do for Alex? What do I have?

498
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:57.799
I have the I have the am shot for him.

499
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:03.559
However, your beard just doesn't compare to his. Now he's

500
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:09.000
got the beard he does Beardie.

501
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:11.839
This camera keeps zooming in and out on me. It's

502
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:12.880
bothering the hell out of me.

503
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:15.319
I have the thing. Oh I don't see that, But

504
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:16.039
that's okay.

505
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:19.519
We got another question from Scott. How do you inspire

506
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.039
others to become interested in the subject and puts boots

507
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:25.319
on the ground and do the scientific research so it's

508
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:28.720
becoming That's that's the catch twenty two. Because there's a

509
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:33.200
lot of people allured with the myths of big footing

510
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:40.480
and the other cryptids where they become much more enamored

511
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:43.759
with the fantasy and everything's a bigfoot and everything's a

512
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:47.559
dog man, and everything's circled in a photograph. We really

513
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.920
have a lot of contenders to go up against in

514
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:54.240
that in that field, and what I feel needs to

515
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:56.200
be the difference is what I said, we need to

516
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.839
get folks educated and then get them on I know,

517
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:04.079
right smiling because Alex wants to go back to that market.

518
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:10.200
Yes, that makes me smile. Absolutely.

519
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:13.400
You get people educated and excited about being in the

520
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.359
woods is the first thing. That's that's the key, and

521
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:18.359
then everything else kind of locks into place.

522
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:19.440
Yep.

523
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:23.559
Once you get bitten by that bigfoot bug, it's hard

524
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:24.359
to get rid of it.

525
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:25.960
Yes.

526
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.319
And another thing too, and again this is for for

527
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:33.039
the next generation, is sometimes you have to stop looking

528
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.400
and but just be out there. Get invault with the

529
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:42.000
with the trail maintenance group. If for big footing, uh,

530
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:46.279
if you're looking for a racetown ray uh you know,

531
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:54.680
or another yeah, another like lake or ocean going en cryptid, Yeah,

532
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:58.039
champ get in fault with like a like a beside

533
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:00.519
clean up or do something like that that you're out

534
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.079
in the water because a lot of it's when you're

535
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:06.640
out there looking you know, yeah, you know, but it's

536
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:10.160
when you're not you know, and yeah, kind of mining

537
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.960
your own business and you know, cleaning up a trail

538
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:16.079
or cleaning up trash on the side of the b shot.

539
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:19.359
You might be that's the unexpected events that happened, right.

540
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:22.839
I think that's a good segue into our new segments

541
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:24.799
when we come back. We can finish up the show

542
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:29.039
with talking about the wrap up of investigation Bigfoot Map.

543
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:30.680
So folks stick around.

544
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.640
We'll be right back right after this a little bull

545
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.880
horn from Vance and Nesbitt new Steed.

546
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:39.000
A Symbo.

547
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:47.359
Christmas dinner is actually a little easier now than my

548
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:49.960
girlfriend's family are. Oh vcan because I used to do

549
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:52.440
a full tucky dinner with all the trimmings for everyone,

550
00:30:52.720 --> 00:31:00.640
but now they do I'll in find it. It's one

551
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:06.240
guy over there goes fucking yes. Ah, yes, well tiss

552
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:10.200
the season for family fighting. Fa la la la la, la,

553
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:14.240
la la la. My Christmas gift to you is I

554
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:19.279
will not sing anymore. So there you go. Happy holiday

555
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.200
seasons to all of our listeners. I hope you are

556
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:26.640
having a very festive time of year. And you know,

557
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.359
we look forward to sharing everything that we have in

558
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:34.079
our bag of tricks, but we don't do tricks here,

559
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:38.440
and if we do, it's by sheer accident. So anyway,

560
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:42.559
since this is the season of joy, let's share a

561
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:47.279
story that we'll put a silver lining to a notable

562
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:54.720
Christmas bigfoot report from twenty twenty four on Christmas Eve, Unfortunately,

563
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.960
two Oregon men who tragically died from exposure in one

564
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:06.119
Washington's Gifford Pinaut National Forest after going missing on Christmas

565
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:11.680
Eve hunt for sasquatch. The search involved more than sixty

566
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:16.519
search and rescue folks along with canine dogs well that's

567
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:21.640
what a canine is, drones, and even the Coastguard. However,

568
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:27.880
their bodies were found dead from hypothermia. Beyond this tragic event,

569
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:32.960
Christmas often appears in bigfoot reports, either due to sightings

570
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:37.759
around the holiday season. There was a report around Christmas

571
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.920
of two thousand and nine in Illinois, according to the

572
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:46.240
BFRO that logged a memory told report of a sasquatch

573
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:51.599
standing in headlights near Saint Jacob on Christmas Eve, part

574
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:55.519
of many Illinois reports, including other two thousand and nine

575
00:32:55.559 --> 00:33:02.240
incidences like a daylight sighting near Hammel, showing consistent local

576
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:09.759
interest in potential Bigfoot encounters. Now, as we continue, there

577
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:14.960
was a report from Peak News magazine out of British Columbia,

578
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:21.079
or simply referring to the town of Christmas, Florida, where

579
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:26.240
a sighting occurred in twenty twelve. So to follow up

580
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:31.880
with the two young men that were found dead of hypothermia,

581
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.680
I guess our gift to you is always keep in mind,

582
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:40.599
be prepared. Always bring more than what you may need

583
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:48.759
because you may need it. Fuzzy underwear, warm clothes, thermal socks,

584
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:52.200
bring things to start a fire weed. Always make sure

585
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.400
you have some sort of communication with you, whether it's

586
00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:01.119
two way radio or cellular or satellite device. But always

587
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:05.680
be prepared. And I know most all of our researchers

588
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:10.400
already know this, but an enthusiast that may listen to

589
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:12.840
the show and say, ooh, I want to go out

590
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:16.079
and look for big Foot. Well, if it's bad weather,

591
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:19.199
and it could be not a winter season, it could

592
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.880
just be heavy rains and you can get hypothermia just

593
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:28.519
from being over soaked. So be careful out there. And

594
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.920
that's all we want for you. We want everybody to

595
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:35.039
go have an adventure and come back and share your

596
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:41.280
reports in living form. When we come back, we're going

597
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:43.760
to open up a box of up and coming things

598
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:50.199
for twenty twenty six to look forward to.

599
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:59.679
See you're listening to the big football horned right here

600
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:01.719
on the Sasquatch experience.

601
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:24.760
As anybody ever told you. Hey, nice knockers. If not,

602
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:29.719
just visit got knockers dot org. Read about the encounter

603
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:34.519
that kick this whole thing off. Plus you can purchase one, two, three,

604
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:38.360
or more tree Knockers. I'm not sure what you thought

605
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:41.880
we were talking about. Got Knockers has a plethora of

606
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:46.599
gifts and merchandise two from awesome apparel, ware, and even

607
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:51.679
something for the baby. Find jewelry and sausage to please

608
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:55.119
anyone's taste. Bud, stop on buy and give a hello

609
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:58.840
to Gwendolyn and Michael herself. Now that you know where

610
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:03.280
to get some cory. They make fun gifts or accessories

611
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:08.760
for the squatch bag. Just visit Godknockers dot Org again

612
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:21.599
Got knockers dot org. Oh, the weather outside is frightful,

613
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:26.559
but the fire is so delightful since we have no

614
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:30.599
place to go. Let it snow, Let it snow. Let

615
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:38.559
it snow it doesn't ah, Yes, my favorite they tits now. Hey.

616
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:42.440
There are several Bigfoot festivals that are confirmed for twenty

617
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:48.039
twenty six, including the Forest County Bigfoot Festival in Pennsylvania

618
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:52.400
that takes place in June, the Red River Gorge Bigfoot

619
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:56.920
Festival in Kentucky and that's in May, and of course

620
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:01.320
also in May is the Ohio Bigfoot Conference in Yeah,

621
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:06.760
you guessed it, Ohio. The West Virginia Bigfoot Festival which

622
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.199
happens to be in West Virginia that's off in October.

623
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:14.840
The Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Festival that's also in May, and

624
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:22.199
of course Bigfoot Days Daze at Willow Creek, California, which

625
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.920
is happening in July, and of course offering speakers and

626
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:30.119
vendors and music and family funds celebrating the legendary creature.

627
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:33.320
And as time draws closer, I will be giving more

628
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:38.000
information on these events. Happy Holidays to all of you

629
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:42.039
from us here at the Bigfoot bull Horn and Anomalous

630
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:48.760
Entertainment's Sasquatch Experience. And as always, until we meet again,

631
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:50.119
keep your toe.

632
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:50.960
In them mind.

633
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:02.360
And we're bad. Thanks Vance for the Big Football Horn

634
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:08.679
this week late Tits, Late tits now got also and also.

635
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.719
Brings in new phrase, I may use a lot more

636
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:12.679
squatch bag.

637
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:17.360
Squatch Oh fascinating. Hey Henry, how why are your buddy?

638
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:19.079
Looks like you're back at it with us tonight.

639
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:26.239
Yes, squatch bag, Oh wow, wow, the love amongst this

640
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:30.440
community only cow squatching.

641
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:38.440
Bag watching Henry's like a silent movie. Squatch Watch Beyond

642
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:41.840
the Footprint in Randall, Washington will take place September twenty

643
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:45.119
fifth to twenty seventh, and you can camp for the weekend.

644
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:45.639
I love it.

645
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:49.440
Got some participants in the chat tonight, our good friend Jimmy,

646
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:55.440
Alex Pettikov, Central Kentucky, Bigfoot, Scott Dearley, all kinds of

647
00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:57.400
folks in here tonight. Great to see our friends, and

648
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:00.480
we're glad you joined us. Investigation Big fo It, Matt

649
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:04.280
Yes and team uh. You know the project Matt and

650
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.000
I were working on back earlier in the fall. I

651
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:08.880
believe has finally come to conclusion.

652
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:11.960
Yeah, what are your thoughts?

653
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:15.280
I'm hoping there was a that they do one more

654
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:19.320
with like a you know clips that didn't make it

655
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.280
on the episode. I mean the one And I'm gonna

656
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:27.159
gonna say this now since since it was uh uh

657
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.400
you know, well talked about. But we had that elk

658
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:35.719
that that we saw on the field, no, and then

659
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.719
and Aaron's out there, you know, he was like shrike

660
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:41.480
out of the car and that elk team right in

661
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:43.719
front of the car. We got some great pictures and

662
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:47.679
he got that video. And the one thing that we

663
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:50.559
uh that we discussed when we were talking about is here,

664
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:53.000
and that was a bull elk, you know, probably a

665
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:57.400
younger bullock, but still over one thousand pounds. And how

666
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:01.119
uh once he got into the once he got into

667
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:04.880
the field, how was able to blend in and a

668
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:09.360
thousand pound animal and we had problems keeping track of

669
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:14.400
where it was right, it moved quick and it moved

670
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:19.480
through that uh silently brush. Yeah, And it was really

671
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.920
just uh that there would have been good to get

672
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:26.599
out to the public that you know, again, here's a

673
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:29.920
live shot, you know, well a film shot of this

674
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:33.960
thousand pound animal you know, going through and you lose it,

675
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:38.679
you know, so for just how how things or animals

676
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.400
or people or others can hide.

677
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:45.000
You know, I I have to uh, I'm sorry, I

678
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:48.679
didn't mean to interrupt, but I did send Seth breedlove

679
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:55.039
a text day before yesterday that at some point I

680
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:57.639
would love to have And this goes back to what

681
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:02.599
Scotch has posted. Uh, let's have a fail video of

682
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:07.800
a just make a collection of all the fail because

683
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:09.559
you got to bring a little bit of fun into

684
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:13.000
all of this too, and to see the reality behind

685
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:14.159
all of this. Yeah.

686
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.559
Yeah, some of the best ones weren't filmed, like Matt

687
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:19.239
almost taking a header.

688
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:25.199
Yeah yeah, I'm gonna tell you my uh my arch nemesis.

689
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:27.719
Uh that entire time through the filming up of the

690
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:34.199
episode were the stairs between almost almost taking a flip

691
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:38.199
over last day when I was freeing my stuff down

692
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:40.880
in one of the you know, uh one hundred year

693
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:46.159
old oaks, happened to uh uh say time to yeah,

694
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:49.280
it was time to to break free.

695
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:50.840
Let's be fair.

696
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.320
Yeah I didn't help it any You know what I

697
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:57.360
see in the video for has become not quite a lightweight. So,

698
00:41:57.880 --> 00:41:59.599
I mean we were putting a lot of pressure on

699
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:01.679
those as mad as we were going up and down

700
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:02.360
that weekend.

701
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:08.079
So speaking of that as well, is one thing that

702
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:12.679
I must say. You know, between Courtney and Heather Holy Colt,

703
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:14.280
are they awesome cooks?

704
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:15.480
Oh?

705
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:18.639
Yeah, I mean, you know that was you know, we

706
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:20.920
came up there and I'm thinking, okay, well, I know,

707
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:23.599
you know places we could go in Man, that first

708
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:25.079
time I get in that chicken pop boy. You know

709
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:29.360
that for for a dutchment like myself, Man, that in

710
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:35.159
itself is absolute heaven. So but they did they they

711
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:41.920
treated us so well and I absolutely left working with them.

712
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:43.760
Oh, we had such a great time, didn't we met?

713
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:45.719
I mean, and spending time with Aaron, who I got

714
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.440
to know who I didn't really know outside just a

715
00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:51.639
couple of conversations, you know, and being able to introduce

716
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:55.440
him to our area and talk about why this area

717
00:42:55.519 --> 00:43:01.840
is important to us and you know, sharing my and

718
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:05.480
and bringing him to meet folks that are important to us,

719
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.360
and that that part was great, and there were more

720
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:10.320
people we could introduce them to. But we didn't have

721
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:14.599
a lot of time, like we stumbled a lot, crammed

722
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:17.360
a lot into a few days. And of course Baker

723
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:19.280
didn't make a cameo in that at all, which I

724
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:20.880
know a lot of people were upset about.

725
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:23.960
So we're sorry that I wasn't on the email chain.

726
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:28.840
We miscommunicated with Baker and but we had a great time.

727
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:33.559
I would do it again, definitely, and I would do

728
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:36.599
some things differently. I would probably like to have a

729
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.199
little bit more field time. But again, what we talked

730
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:42.360
about is you know when stuff are happening when you're

731
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:45.599
not paying attention. That whole stuff around the campfire that

732
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:48.000
night was not planned stuff. We were just going to

733
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:50.679
sit there and shoot the shit and get some b

734
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.960
roll and it ended up turning into a legitimate investigation.

735
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:57.360
And I people you know, probably won't believe it, but

736
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:02.079
that's that's the fucking truth. Like, yeah, that's what happened.

737
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:04.840
If we were gonna do something more, we would have

738
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:08.679
kept Matt there. I mean, let's be honest. You know,

739
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:10.760
Gwen happened to be there with us that day. It

740
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:13.639
was a long drive for her to go home, so

741
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:17.280
she stayed with us at the cabin and we just

742
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:19.800
sat around just wanting to have a good time and

743
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:24.199
kind of talk. But it turned into more and that

744
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:27.639
was really cool. You know, everybody's asked me, what do

745
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:29.760
you think that was in the true I don't know.

746
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:32.480
It would be easy to say a raccoon, It would

747
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:34.360
be easy to say something, but when you look at

748
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:36.760
the mechanics of how it moved in the moment. It

749
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:40.440
didn't match up to those things. And if you watch it,

750
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:42.119
I was really bothered by.

751
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:45.519
Yeah, I could tell that you were bothered by it

752
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:48.320
because of the fact that you're, like, I keep seeing

753
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:52.119
this thing bobbing in and out behind the tree. That's

754
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.960
it's not that it's uncommon for animals to do, no,

755
00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:59.519
but it's rare. It's very rare.

756
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:02.559
You'd have been able to identify it quicker if it

757
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:07.239
was something, But even the sizing isn't right. When you

758
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:09.159
see it in the trees, that looks small, but when

759
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:13.679
you see it in person, did not. Like That's that's

760
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:19.320
the difference that I keep trying to expel to people,

761
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:25.199
like Aaron would not have got that excited over a raccoon.

762
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:26.159
Right.

763
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:32.679
Also, he did one thing that nobody else ever does.

764
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:38.199
His camera quit working, so he grabbed another camera. Everything

765
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:42.039
we've talked about forever and preached, he did it. We

766
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:45.119
only got that shot because he whipped his camera out,

767
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:48.840
his phone out and got it. Like that's the other

768
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.159
magnificent part of all that. So a lot of that

769
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:55.119
credit goes to Aaron because he you know, I had

770
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:59.000
thought I saw something move like an arm in that

771
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:03.039
area and we've been hearing like calls back and forth

772
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:06.519
throughout the night, so we were really starting to pay attention.

773
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:11.760
And again, I don't know what that was, and it

774
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:13.960
bothered me because it adds more mystery to that and

775
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:15.800
people can tell us all day long, this is what

776
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:18.800
it was, and if it is great And I think

777
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:21.440
I said later on in the one episode that the

778
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:23.880
thing I was proud about the most is after the

779
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:26.800
high War off, we all went into debunking mode.

780
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:30.719
Yep, right right, and that's what we needed to do.

781
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:34.079
And I think that was telling and then being able

782
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:36.920
to get out to the area where it is. When

783
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.400
I was able to get out to my area and

784
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:42.599
which I hadn't been back to since I think twenty

785
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:46.559
sixteen was the last time I was there. When we

786
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:49.480
went to Parker Dam that year, Matt and I had

787
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:52.159
the kids there and we played the baby Crying tape.

788
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.519
Scared the hell out of my boy Gabe and my

789
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:57.519
little cousin Blake, and you.

790
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.840
Know, we had a really Oh.

791
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:03.119
It was weird to be there because it kind of

792
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:06.400
brought back the feelings, but it was good to be

793
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.480
there at the same time because I was able to

794
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:14.159
process it better now than when it happened. I also,

795
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:18.320
which I take full credit for and responsibility, botched the

796
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:21.239
timeline on my sighting when I was telling it in

797
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:25.480
the in the in the field, because I was nervous.

798
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:27.719
I don't know why. Of all the times I told

799
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:29.760
that story, I don't know why I was nervous telling

800
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:32.960
it there, but I just kind of got some of the.

801
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:35.679
Oh, maybe you just wanted to make sure you got

802
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:39.039
all the facts straight and to keep yeah, all the

803
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:44.599
linear information in order, right. I could understand that right.

804
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:46.599
And also Dave was there, and that's the first time

805
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:48.760
Dave and I have been there to that spot talking

806
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:51.039
about it, so it was really kind of bringing back

807
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:55.800
those feelings while I was, you know, retelling that story.

808
00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:57.400
And you know, the more and more I tell it,

809
00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:03.159
the less the less extra the less significant it seems.

810
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:07.239
But it's because I've lived it and lived it and

811
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:08.880
lived it other people that I hear this is like,

812
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:11.719
oh my god, that's amazing. It gets less amazing anmore

813
00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:15.480
you tell it, you know, like yeah, but it was

814
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:17.679
a very important impactful moment to me, and I was

815
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:19.639
glad I was able to share it and take people

816
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:23.880
back to that spot, which had been changed a little bit,

817
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:25.840
but not as much as I had thought it was.

818
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.639
I'll tell you one thing with me, and it's such

819
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:33.800
a it's gonna be a really kind of weird analogy,

820
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:38.920
but I'm gonna say this is the only like negative

821
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:41.119
I feel about it. It's almost like a survivor's skill

822
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:47.000
in like police work, or you know that you had

823
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:49.719
something happen and you weren't able to be there, you

824
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:53.400
weren't able to know it does when I was getting

825
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:55.760
the text from you that night and I'm like, oh

826
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:58.880
my god, you know, like the stars just did not

827
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:02.360
align for me that because again I had the I

828
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:05.639
had the high end thermal, I had the night vision.

829
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:09.119
I I you know, I would let you guys go

830
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:13.360
and you know, and I'm Monday morning quarterback, like you

831
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:16.480
guys did everything right. I for myself, I would be

832
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:20.360
probably doing a belly crawl, you know, to try to

833
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:24.239
to try to go in flank whatever was out even

834
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:27.320
though there was there was multiple calls coming back and forth.

835
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:29.440
I would try to find that, you know, And I'm

836
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:31.039
just thinking to myself, man, I.

837
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:33.239
How many times did I say snakes?

838
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:33.440
Man?

839
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:48.239
I know, I know, because like.

840
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:45.920
Like that that close yeah, I would be doing whatever

841
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:50.480
I could to uh and uh. But again I think

842
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:53.639
that the way that you guys were out there that

843
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:57.559
was that was so perfect for you know, like I said,

844
00:49:57.599 --> 00:49:59.960
if you had that one extra person, but with that

845
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:03.360
out having that extra person doing what you did, you

846
00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:06.440
had that interaction with whatever was out there.

847
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:07.960
Right and you know what it was.

848
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:12.440
And then going back to what we were teaching Aaron.

849
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.480
I I told Aaron when my encounter was on the

850
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:19.559
very first part of that of the last episode, and

851
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:22.400
I told him, I said, I was sitting here watching

852
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:26.079
this tree shake, you know, and I said, the one

853
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:28.800
thing that I didn't do that you would think I

854
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:33.079
would is to grab my phone to get that footage.

855
00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:34.079
I did it.

856
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:36.920
And for Aaron to pick up on that and to

857
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:43.400
and to to really you know, uh legitimately, you know,

858
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:46.159
you go from camera to camera. That was that was

859
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:49.079
incredibly awesome and I was so happy to see that.

860
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:53.559
And I'll tell you you know, Uh, if somebody had

861
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:56.000
asked in the in the comments too, would we want

862
00:50:56.039 --> 00:50:59.159
to do this again? Oh heck yeah, you know, I

863
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.880
mean yeah, and you know, we'd love to have Alex

864
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:05.320
with us, you know, on on one of these.

865
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:09.320
Yeah myself, you know, just going into that you know,

866
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:13.760
looks like they do it. Yeah, like a guy who fork.

867
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:15.599
Wow.

868
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:21.239
Other areas, you know, Uh, if we go you know,

869
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:26.920
mid Atlantic area, West Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, Uh, you know,

870
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.639
New York. Yeah, that would be uh, that would be outstanding.

871
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:33.840
We would love to do that. And again it's going

872
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.360
full circle again to the beginning. It's not about the money,

873
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:41.559
it's about having fun. And you know, like I said,

874
00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:44.440
if there were so many good people that you meet

875
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.480
in the big Foot community and you do, you become

876
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:50.840
lifelong friends. Uh, you know, not not just with us,

877
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:53.400
but like you know, with Gwen. You know, one an awesome,

878
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:56.360
awesome person. She was and I'm glad that she was there,

879
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:01.199
although all he saw from the very beginning was her

880
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:03.280
walking directly to the eyeshine.

881
00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:08.159
I'm like, yeah, you know, but listen, those ladies.

882
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:11.119
Have balls, man. Let me tell you they are all.

883
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:14.840
When this stuff happening, I was more concerned that they

884
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:16.840
were going to get crazy and Aaron and I were

885
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:19.280
going to be like I was concerned that they were

886
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:22.920
going to go get shit done, and he and I

887
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.280
were going to looking like pans. Yeah, because we were

888
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:29.079
like I went into strategy mode and kind of like

889
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:31.400
analytical mode, and these let's go, let's get out there,

890
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:33.559
let's see what this is like. Ladies, come on, let's

891
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:36.280
back down. Not Gwen, she's leading the charge.

892
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:36.599
You know.

893
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:39.960
Yeah, yeah, that's that's great.

894
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:42.320
I mean, but there was so much that, you know,

895
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:44.800
the editing, which was done well, by the way, I

896
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:47.840
wasn't edited at a sequencer made to seem scary and stupid.

897
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:51.760
It was done well. But you know, they were really

898
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:53.800
a significant part of that. And you know, one of

899
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:55.840
the things I talk about is celebrating the women in

900
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:58.760
our field and the great work and the contributions they make.

901
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:01.800
They all did a fantastic job that wee can decide

902
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:04.639
from just Aaron and I and you like, we were

903
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:08.360
able to introduce you know, the world to great friends,

904
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:10.280
the people that spent a lot of time out there

905
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:15.199
in the alleghenies. And you know, I said, I've seen

906
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:18.559
the comments, and you know, I always feel bad because

907
00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:20.719
I don't read them. You know, Matt, I told you

908
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:22.239
I wasn't going to read them anymore. And I've stayed

909
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:26.079
pretty good to that. I've been good. But remember they

910
00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:28.039
are real people who do real things, and it takes

911
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:29.800
a lot of courage to get up there and talk

912
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:33.679
about your experiences and your research in a world where

913
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:36.079
you're already made fun of because of what you believe

914
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:39.840
in what you're doing. I'm very proud of our friends.

915
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:40.639
They all showed up.

916
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:40.960
Well.

917
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:43.840
It was great to finally meet Paul Boggden, somebody I've

918
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.239
heard of for years, and you know, just great to

919
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.400
be with Jeff and Julie. I think it might have

920
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:51.400
been the first through the door hug that anybody's ever

921
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:54.440
done through a pickup truck with me and Jep. I'm

922
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:55.199
a hugger of folks.

923
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:58.760
I really am. Hopefully they're always that the evidence.

924
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:02.760
I'm a hunger and I love people. It's what we do,

925
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:06.519
and I think that's what really brought you know, I

926
00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:09.119
think brought a little difference is introducing all these crazy

927
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:11.440
people in Pennsylvania that love to look for Bigfoot. There

928
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:15.320
is a lot of fun. Yep, any terry you want

929
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:16.880
to throw in there at all, vans on it or

930
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:18.880
any final thoughts, I'm sorry, Matt, go ahead and then

931
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:19.639
we'll go to vance.

932
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:22.920
I was just gonna say though. There was so much

933
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:25.519
and we talked about the editing. There was so much

934
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:29.000
that I wish could have gotten in and again, I'd

935
00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:32.480
love to see in in maybe an like you know,

936
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:37.519
out like a clip episode maybe you know, down the line.

937
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:44.000
But yeah, this was a fantastic series to work on,

938
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:48.119
and you know, hopefully we get to do it again.

939
00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:50.920
I hope. So I mean a lot of fun and

940
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:55.440
that we're not that we're pandering, but we're pandering, but

941
00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:59.360
it would be great Vans.

942
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:03.119
You know, A couple of things that I did take

943
00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:10.519
away watching what you guys did was the genuine reaction

944
00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:15.199
to what the experience was at the time from everybody.

945
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:19.800
It was very genuine. It was very guttural. I don't

946
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:21.719
know if that's the right word to use, but it was.

947
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:27.920
It was very genuine and explaining to each other everybody

948
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:30.639
else's experience as to what's going on. And there was

949
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.679
a lot of correlation that meshed to make the same

950
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:38.360
experience and then to move forward to try to figure

951
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:43.760
out what was going on. And I couldn't. I couldn't

952
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.400
put paws on to go in the kitchen and get

953
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:49.679
a snack. I just had to sit there and continue watching.

954
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:54.199
So it was very compelling as to what was happening

955
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:55.079
at the time.

956
00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:58.039
There wasn't a day Matt and I that we didn't

957
00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:01.039
have fun working on that project. Yeah, and you know,

958
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:03.639
of course it's leading into our book that's coming out

959
00:56:03.800 --> 00:56:07.800
next year's I mean, Matt and I are writing Elusive Truth,

960
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:13.920
which is kind of a companion to Investigation Bigfoot. It's

961
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:17.639
been moments of heat writing it and then moments of cold.

962
00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:19.559
But we are going to get back here out of

963
00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:22.639
the holidays, settling down, we can get heavy into it.

964
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:24.519
I think it's going to be different than what folks

965
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:27.599
are used to and I think you're going to get

966
00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:29.880
to know us a little bit more intimately in terms

967
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:35.760
of our backgrounds and our experiences with Yeah, I mean

968
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:40.000
it might be man, you're going to read a lot

969
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:45.480
about some of my earlier, earlier encounters and stories from

970
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:48.599
when I first got involved in this, so it's pretty cool.

971
00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:50.519
And then of course a lot of case study that's

972
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:53.280
going to go into it too that Matt's compiling. You know,

973
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:56.320
we're probably going to have a pretty pre comprehensive citing

974
00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:59.760
report book for in that as well.

975
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:05.239
Yep, yep, well how's this Sean? You know, Scott made

976
00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:07.960
the comment he's not a fan of snakes either.

977
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:15.599
Go ahead, Henry, I was just gonna say I also

978
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:19.159
enjoy Small Town Monster is the latest episode which is

979
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:23.679
about the search in western North Carolina for.

980
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:28.760
Of course, film the Ancients bit with the Ancients.

981
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:30.960
Right, you know, we're going to be a lot of

982
00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:34.159
stuff coming from these regions that I really appreciate and enjoy.

983
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:37.360
And we're just glad to be a part of the ride.

984
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:38.079
We really are.

985
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:40.320
We love our friends and small Town Monsters. We love

986
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:43.480
our audience here at Sasquatch Experience and upon which we

987
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:46.760
wish you all a very merry Christmas and a happy

988
00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:49.000
new year. Take the time and enjoy it with your

989
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:53.639
loved ones. And Henry, why don't you take us out

990
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:55.360
with those with that with that.

991
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:58.440
Phrase, Yeah, I'll be good, it'd be good at it.

992
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:02.639
That's it, folks, for twenty twenty five. Keep on squatching.

993
00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:05.440
See you next year, See you next year.

994
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995
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996
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998
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