July 22, 2025

EP 129: Appalachian Bigfoot Files

EP 129: Appalachian Bigfoot Files

Aleks Petakov, Filmmaker and Member of https://www.smalltownmonsters.com Productions, joins us to discuss https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXeLjfrE1fz6T4MtoLAD5sKcVYkpR8pqF,...

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Season 11

Aleks Petakov, Filmmaker and Member of Small Town Monsters Productions, joins us to discuss The Appalachian Bigfoot Files, Beyond the Trail of Bigfoot, and more.

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Experience do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the host, sponsors,

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We got someone or something crawling around out here?

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Does a legend walk among us working in the forests

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of our world?

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Did you see what it was?

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Was it a person or an animal?

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Or I can't go Oh, I know that my thunder

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light came on and I just happened to glen and

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see this thing running across the yard.

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A good fight man or something.

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It looks like a man.

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I don't know what it was.

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For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators,

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and witnesses trying to gain insight and proof around the

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existence of this mysterious entity.

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Hello, get somebody out here.

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What's going to announce there?

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To AVECTA about six?

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I don't know, easy announce there?

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Yeah, I'm walking right out.

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Oh, okay, hand on.

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Yeah, got you bigger?

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Okay, what's you doing your yarn?

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Join us as we continue into the investigation of the

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Every time I see that little with Henry May at

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the end. It always makes me happy. I don't know, yeah,

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it just does. Yet we want welcome to the Sasquatch

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Experience for Monday, July twenty first, two thousand and five,

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and Henry has been already.

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It is It is vance, guys.

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We've got a grade show tonight, our friend Alex Pettikov

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joining us again. Appalachian Bigfoot files all over small town

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Monsters beyond the Trail we name it. She's there and

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we're glad to have him with us tonight. But before

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we get started with Alex, we do have a couple

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housekeeping notes. It's that time of the year again, guys.

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with a goal of twelve hundred and fifty bucks, which

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Oh boy, thanks boy.

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Of promotion housekeeping notes. That's all I got. We're going

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to get this kick this started, Matt.

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Brother.

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Oh well, I mean, I have a very controversial question

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for Alex. Alex, I know you've been up here in

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our area or neck to the Woods. You love Old

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Forge Pizza.

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I do, But.

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would you rather have Old Forge Pizza or West Virginia

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Pepperoni role? Oh boy, you didn't try. No, I know,

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I'm gotta get in trouble. Oh boy. I mean, I'll

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be honest. I'm gonna go with the Old Forged pizza

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like pizza more. I think pizzas a better overall, you know,

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and just something about you know, the times I've gotten

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it is either driving through the area after we've exports

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of the bland and mines or something. So it just

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makes it that much more satisfying. But yeah, the pepper

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and URLs are great. We had some fantastic ones back

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in April and we were down there. Some of the

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gas station ones can be hit or miss, but yeah,

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like the restaurant ones we had were incredible. But yeah,

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just I'm I'm a pizza guy at heart, So sorry,

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West Virginia. I love you to compromise. I will say,

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you know, CRIPTI there's the Mythical Pizza there in West Virginia,

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which is like a pizza place, and the pizza is amazing,

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So I recommend checking that out if you're in like

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the eastern part of West Virginia. Mythical Pizza. He would

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that be from Davis, which I guess Davis is kind

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of the hub. Yeah, it's not an hour east. It's

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actually very close to a town called the Hancock, Maryland.

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and West Virginia. It's very close actually to the Turnpike

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tunnels there in Breezewood, Pennsylvania. At less than an hour

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from that area. So yeah, it's a little bit on

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the further kind of panhandle of West Virginia. But yeah,

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it's a great spot. So let's let's get right into

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the into the main topic here. I mean, I'm gonna

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tell you the the West Virginia episodes absolutely blew my mind. Yeah,

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particularly particularly with the audio evidence that you got that

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that you guys weren't initially aware of, which is you know,

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which is really amazing. Could you tell us a little

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bit about some of the experiences you had down there

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in West Virginia. Yeah, with those episodes absolutely so. Back

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in April, early April my fault, which you guys know, Matt,

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you certainly know. We've been out with those guys Shan

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through Brian Garvey of Brian and chuwiego hiking, Mike Lucci

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of the cr C, of my brother. You know, we

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all went down this trip in early April to West

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Virginia and we kind of did like a week just

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driving through the mountains. Linked up with a bunch of

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local folks as well, people like Les Odell, Charles Kimbrough,

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Jonathan Dodd and his brother. They're in Virginia. So I

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always like to meet, like when I come busy, you

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guys in Pennsylvania, I always like to link up with

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my local buddies in the areas that visit. But we

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spent about a week down there. It was over a

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week actually because we went into Virginia technically as well.

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It was a whole big kind of trip. But two

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nights in a row in different locations, we recorded these

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kind of woodennock type sounds that you know the first night, well,

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this is not the first night sequentially, I'll say just

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of the two nights in question, they were like three

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nights a part in very different locations, maybe thirty forty

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miles from each other. But the more interesting one was

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near Dolly Sads, which is kind of a designated wilderness

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area within the mononga Hala National Forest in West Virginia.

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We came to this one location we actually got locked

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in technically behind a National Forest gate. It's a whole

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whole other story, but it kind of lessens the chances

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of human contamination because we went into an unlocked gate

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and were, unbeknownst to us, locked behind the gate. So well,

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we spend a night there and we had set up

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a tree stand. I have this like a mobile, not sorry,

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not a mobile, but a it is mobile, but it's

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a saddle hunting tree stand, which allows me to deploy

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it basically anywhere. I set up in this tree and

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then upon reviewing footage later on, like once we got home,

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there's this really weird scream as we're as we're just talking,

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you know, I was having my brother film me just

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I was spraying the tree stand with some like scent remover,

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you know for hunting, just you know, kind of going

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through the all process, and there's this weird, like ah

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kind of scream in the background, and I kind of

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went around. I accounted for everybody in our group that

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was there. Everyone was either around us, and there was

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one person sleeping at camp, and it's like this scream

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sounds like it's from the distance, so it's inconclusive, but

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it was weird. You know. I had some people look

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at it who do audio stuff and they're like, well,

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that's that's unusual. You know. They can't say one hundred

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percent what it is. They don't know what made the sound,

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but the chances that somebody else's back they're just randomly

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screaming not that far from us. None of us did it.

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I mean we have again, we were all accounted for.

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There was like five of us there, plus Chewy the dog,

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you know, and in the previous frames to that clip

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where that was captured, everyone is accounted for. It is

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within you know, five ten feet of each other because

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I was finishing up spending up my stand as you

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can see that in the video, which is the beyond

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the trail appellation big Foot Trail. I know it's a

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little bit redundant there, but that's the way the title

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came out. So that was weird, Like, didn't notice that

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until way after. And then that night at that same location,

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we had multiple bodio recorders deployed in different locations, and

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Mike Lucci actually had noticed some of the audio that

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was found there, which was just like these knocks, you know,

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kind of typical knocks. It almost sounds like there was

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some that were closer and some that were further and

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crashing sound very typical, nothing extraordinary, you know, I would say,

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nothing with like mind blowing, but in conjunction with the scream,

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you know, it's it's all very included. There's there's there's Brian,

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of course, he's awesome. Brian don't know what I'm talking about.

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So the only bummer is we weren't able to stay

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at that location a second night, because we had then

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found out that morning that we were locked in this gate,

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and you know, we said, oh gosh, and you know,

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we had to just leave the area because technically we

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weren't supposed to be there just yet, because the National

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Forest hadn't opened that area, but people who had like

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a remote hunting camp further up had opened it during

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the day, and you know, we kind of exploited that.

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And anyway, not to incriminate myself too much here, but

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it happens, right, It's like it was, Yeah, it does. Unfortunately,

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we've dealt with a you know, we have kind of

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a curse where this group of guys like this is

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the third April in a row where we've been trying

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to get to locations then that gates have prevented us

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from doing so, or we've got locked behind the gate,

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had incidents. So that's a bit of funny story. But anyway,

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just to get back to the topic, Yeah, it was weird.

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I mean, I can't say anything definitive about it. And then,

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as I mentioned, a few nights later, we were at

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a different location, maybe less than forty miles south of there,

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also in the kind of mononga Hala National Forest and

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Charles Kimbro, who actually does a lot of audio research.

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He develops microphones and he does a lot of great work.

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He had captured this knock three four in the morning.

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It was just a very clean, crisp There's no other

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sound going on. So, you know, it's one of the

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things you can't really you can't prove any one way

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or another way. I guess it's just kind of a

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it's intriguing you kind of it's tantalizing, as I guess.

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is the knock that was recorded on the second site

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was very similar, uh to the one that you guys

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recorded at Dolly Sides. It did it did sound, but

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it had that same kind of like hollow kind of

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baseball bat sound characteristic to it. You know, I've heard

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knocks like that before. Can I say those are bigfoot?

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but I've heard in a couple of other places, like

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in Alaska and up here in New Hampshire. So it's

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just one of those things that once we had realized,

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you know, we were initially planning and staying in that

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one location just for for one night. Moving on, you know,

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we're we're camping, we're hiking, We're we're staying in some

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locations for a couple of days. We're kind of you know,

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we had you know, we had a whole plan and

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what we're going to do, and based off of that

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not we said, yeah, we're definitely staying in this location

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another night, just because hey, maybe lightning will strike twice.

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and you know, it was just turned into a bit

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of a yeah, a disaster I think would be the

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right word for it. Yep, but it was still I

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mean that again, that whole series, there's three particular episodes

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dealing with West Virginia correct or Yeah. So so it's

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a bit confusing. So this was technically part of the

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Beyond the Trail or Bigfoot Beyond the Trail series. I

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just we'd filmed so much. I was like, this had

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I can't this can't be one video. It's going to

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be three hours long. We did so much, so I

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had planned initially to do two episodes. I was like, oh, yeah,

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I'll just I'll split it up. You know, it'll be

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first half the second half, but then we ended up

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also getting so much that I'm like maybe three because

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I don't I don't want to, you know, cut out

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parts that I think are unimportant. Like in the second part,

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we explored this really intricate cave system, this like Liver

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River Cave, and I thought that could be a whole

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thing under itself. So at the same time I was

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filming this, which is Beyond the Trails, is a much

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more kind of investigative, boots on the ground sort of

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thing where it's just it's a lot raw, more raw

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than you know, more interview based stuff. But the other

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stuff I was working on was appalation Bigfoot Files, which

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is you know, as you get You and Sean have

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both been in that series. I think, Matt, you've been

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in three episodes I think of that series now, which

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is I think the most. Maybe Mike Lucci might be

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in three as well. But you're up there for like

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one of the most featured guests. And that's so much more. Yeah,

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that's much more just interview based, and it's about you know,

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covers the Appalachian Mountains basically from from north to south

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and just interesting cases. You know. We just released one

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yesterday about the the infamous Vermont Trail camera photo when

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I interviewed the guy who got that, and you know

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that's now you're being a five pound owl, the giant,

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and that one's been around for a long time, right

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twenty ten. But every episode of the Appalachian big Foot

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Files covers a different section of the mountains. So you know,

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we did the episode that both Sean and you have

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been in, Matt was the one about that Allegheny Plateau

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area where you guys are research, which falls into the

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Appalachian Mountains. Whereas the other episode about the Suskin Screamer,

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which I love that legend amazing, is about northeast Pennsylvania

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the Pogonos. And then we had an episode that was

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that you actually featured in two, which was about the

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northern New Jersey and you know up too High Point

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State Park because that brush us up right against the

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areas that you go into. So that's in my mind.

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I have a map I'm trying to make of covering

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all the different areas and kind of make them interlocking.

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And I'm just starting to get up into my neck

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of the woods in New England. But so far we've

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had episodes dealing with western North Carolina, West Virginia, Virginia

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two in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Massachusetts featuring John Wilkes Encounter,

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which is a lot of favorite encounters of all time.

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John Wilke's a great guy, so it's just an awesome episode.

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So yeah, that's kind of that series. But yeah, it

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was a little confusing because those three episodes that beyond

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the Trail were also kind of appalation Bigfoot Trail. So

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I don't know, maybe it's a little confusing, but that's

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that's my fault, not at all. I mean, every every

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episode really drew us in, but you kind of led us.

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And now to our next point, which is about the

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new episode that premiered yesterday with the Vermont photo. Can

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you tell us a little bit more about that. Yeah,

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so recently I got in touch with Frank Sazinski, who

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is as a friend of Steve Calls. And I've known

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of Frank, I've just never met him, even though you know,

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we go to the Whitehall Bigfoot Fessel every year, which

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is one of my favorite events. It's kind of the

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missing the missing one, the main one up here at

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the New England Northeast area draws people from the whole region.

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You know the Whitehall story obviously as a classic a

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bear road involving all the law enforcement. I'm sure Matt

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you know about that story.

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Of course.

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So that whole area I always loved. Whitehall is only

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a few hours from me in New Hampshire, but you know,

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you have that part of Vermont right there, And what's

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so interesting about Whitehall in that area is it's it's

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basically right on one side in the foothills of the

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Green Mountains of Vermont, which go through the entirety of

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the state, from the southern part where you have the

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Bennington Triangle and lots of famous encounters, to the northern

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part which goes all the way up to the border

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with Canada. And one of the first people I ever

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interviewed back in the day, over ten years ago, a

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big fool witness had an encounter in right along the

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Canadian border in the northern part of the Green Mountains.

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And then on the other side of Whitehall you have

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the Adirondacks. So there's so many great reports just in

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that area. It's amazing. So yeah, I'd got to make

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a long story short. I had gotten in touch with

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Frank Sizinski and I went out to his property and

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interviewed him all about that weird a trail camera picture

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he has, And you know, I thought it was mainly

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just going to be a little segment about him talking

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about the camera and maybe that will be like a

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part of an episode covering the broader Vermont area. But

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he had a lot of stories to tell, so I

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was like, you know what, this might as well be

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its own thing and just let him talk about, you know,

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the first part of the episodes about trail camera photo.

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But then I'd say, like almost, you know, the other half,

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if not more, is about local encounters that he was

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familiar with or he had been told subsequently after the

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photo came out. That kind of made this really interesting

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corroborative hatter in the area. And for whatever reason, there's

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a lot of sightings in that area that include creatures

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going into the water. We're some eating things in the water,

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which hardens me back to a really interesting sighting that

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Paul Bartholomew has told me about. Paul's another fantastic research

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in that area. He talks about these two guys who

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were from Hong Kong. There were kind of local Chinese restaurant,

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and they went fishing and they had seen this monkey

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as they called it, like small ape creature, kind of

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wading through the water part of Lake Champlain. They were

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fishing at it, and to them it wasn't really unusual.

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They you know, in Hong Kong we have prime ates

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running around, so we didn't know they had they had

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him here too. They acted very nonchalant about it, which

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is really funny kind of the cultural connection that they

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had to it. So they didn't I guess they didn't

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understand the significance of their sighting, right. So but it

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fits in again with some of the stuff Frank was

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telling me where he had a friend who had seen

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one of these things, as he described as a there

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was a gorilla in the pond eating lilies. And this

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is all within a few miles of where he got

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that photo. So what I will say about the photo,

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my personal opinion is it's it's rather inconclusive. I think

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it's become almost like a rorshack test, and you just

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see what you want to see. People see an owl,

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you know, and people get really hung up on that,

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and you know, Steve Calls has done, you know, lengked

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the investigations into the photo, and you know, he had

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contacted doctor Bruce mcabee, who's a optical physicist, who said

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he didn't think that it was something close to the

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camera like an acohol. He thought it was something closer

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to the ground. So you know a lot of people

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on watching that video, Yes, you're saying, well, I agree

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with the biologist who said it was.

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An Now this is a professional I don't agree.

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That's one professional opinion, right for a biologist, sure, but

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then you have another professional opinion from an optical physicist

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who says that he doesn't think that's the case. I'm

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sure if you take it to a third PhD they

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might have a different opinion. So you know, you got

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to realize there's not like a consensus about one opinion

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Trump's the other. There has to be you know, how

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how much have they examined it, looked into it, that

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kind of stuff. So, yeah, it's a controversial thing. And

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like I said, I think it's conclusive. I wish there

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were more photos, and then it's heated multiple times. That's

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the only day because right now we just have a

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photo from twenty ten that draws I believe that the.

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Camera was set at sixty seconds per each photo. Yes,

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the photo that was captured, I screenshoted it before I

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listened to any analyzation of what the photo was. What

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I saw was something with very broad shoulders looking directly

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down at the ground. I and I know Bartholomew said that,

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you know there was a juvenile underneath it. I didn't

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see that, but I saw two arms on the ground

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as it's looking at the ground with a conical head.

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That's exactly what I saw.

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And I left it at that, And then you know

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when all the other speculation came out, well, you know

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it's it's an owl.

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Yeah, I don't it's not.

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I mean, sorry, that's where I kind of go with

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like it.

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Yeah, it did kind of go off the rail.

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See, oh there's a young one. I mean, there's that meat.

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I know, Larry Beans Baxter is always making memes about like,

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oh there's showby the baby, you know, or any photo.

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Inevitably people say, oh there's a young one underneath the

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rights to become a little bit of a being. You

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know how common it is. But a lot of people

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have said with this photo they think that again. Their

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opinion too is you know, that's their opinion. My opinion,

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you know, trying to be as objective as possible is

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just I think it's rather inconclusive. I would much rather

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have more data to work with. But oh, right, too right.

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But my point with the episode was to try to

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show the just the story behind the photo, the location

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where it happened, how it's changed. I mean, it's been

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quite a few years since that photo and then all

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the other stories you know that surrounded it in that area, so.

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That they always taken in what twenty twelve, Alex twenty ten,

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twenty ten.

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Okay, it's definitely been a while. It was featured heavilyen

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Finding Bigfoot. Of course, it's had some media coverage over

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the years, and you know, Steve did a pretty thorough

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invest stigation. You speak to doctor Bruce Macabee, and you know,

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again people have their opinions about it. I think it's

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it's it's fascinating, but it's just another chapter and kind

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of appalation big Foot Files that talks about a local story.

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And you know, it's funny because a lot of the people,

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like they were saying like it was, especially with the blot,

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like they get really hung up on the spots that

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are found on it. They're like, oh, those spots, you

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know what is? It shows it's And if you watch

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the video, Steve explains that doctor Bruce mctiby says, those

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are actually not white spots.

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Those are dark spots.

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Right right now, I get all these angry comments and messages,

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and I'm like, if you just watch the video, it's explained.

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Like I try when I do a video, I try

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to get all the information out that I can. And

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you know, a lot of the questions and like angry

458
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:54.839
comments we get are answered if you just pay attention.

459
00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:58.400
Sometimes the description of the video it says it too,

460
00:23:58.400 --> 00:23:59.839
but nobody reads the scriptures.

461
00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:02.799
I know that that was the point that was brought

462
00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:05.640
up to that there was a full.

463
00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:09.640
Moon and it might have been moonlight that was reflecting.

464
00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:09.519
Off of it.

465
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:13.759
Well thanks, they yeah, you know, I understand this is

466
00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:14.759
all speculation.

467
00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.400
But there was also there was a discrepancy between some

468
00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:20.599
of the photos. You know, he was saying that there

469
00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:23.880
was a coyote that was scared off by this creature,

470
00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:25.680
and actually there was blam dates and from what I

471
00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:28.920
understand from Steve's analysis, he said that that time stamps

472
00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:31.480
are actually not accurate on the actual photo.

473
00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:32.039
Oh really.

474
00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:34.119
Now, I think that there were apples that were in

475
00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:36.799
different spots. So I'm not sure if Frank meant that

476
00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:40.079
was sequentially what happened, or that it was actually just

477
00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:44.319
this was like the the last photo before this photo,

478
00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:47.079
which may have actually been a day apart. But I

479
00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:48.759
think the way he said it made it sound like

480
00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:51.119
he was saying this coyote was scared off by something

481
00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:54.559
I don't know. Also, full disclosure, Frank is eighty seven

482
00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:58.079
years old and very hard at hearing. I mean, I

483
00:24:58.079 --> 00:24:59.440
don't know if you could tell in the interview, but

484
00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:02.359
I was outing my questions at him at times. You know,

485
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:05.480
I had one one person said, you said something to

486
00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:08.079
the effect of, oh, he's not answering your question when

487
00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:11.039
you ask it. I said, bro, he was not hearing

488
00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:12.839
half the stuff I was asking him.

489
00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:15.720
I was trying art see him as a hulkxer though.

490
00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:18.519
No, I think, if anything, maybe there's some wishful thinking

491
00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:22.640
going on. But it was very sincere. He made sure

492
00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:25.799
he was talking about you know, they tried to be

493
00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:27.440
with some money, and like he's like, I don't want

494
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:29.480
him money, I just want to prove, you know, what happened,

495
00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:31.920
and He's a very earnest guy, and I really like

496
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.799
talking with them. He reminded me almost like my grandfather

497
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:39.799
in a way exactly it telling the stories like he

498
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:42.880
knew all these stories. And you know, I had both.

499
00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:45.440
You know, I still have one grandfather, July, who was

500
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.160
there over ninety five years old, and he's the same

501
00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:50.039
kind of way. You tell him about a certain topic

502
00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:52.319
and he'll tell me all the World War Two stories

503
00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:54.200
that he knows. So it's you know, it's it's nice

504
00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:56.599
when people are, especially in that age, they still have

505
00:25:57.319 --> 00:25:59.160
they just able to remember all this stuff. For oh,

506
00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:01.680
let me show you my like find her with all the.

507
00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:05.039
Encounter and it brings them joy to it is it was.

508
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:05.319
It was.

509
00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:08.000
It was a really unvisial with him, and I enjoyed talking.

510
00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.799
I I I thought the star of the of the

511
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:15.920
movie or of the video though, was Frank's wife because

512
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:19.519
like when you hear Frank Frank.

513
00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:25.920
I love that and edits they weren't just such a

514
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:30.440
real down to her uh and and she was on camera,

515
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:34.119
but hearing her, uh, it was just so so neat.

516
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:34.359
It was.

517
00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:38.880
It was the only thing note that that it was

518
00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:42.039
hit me like a punch in the gut was when

519
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:47.759
he talked about the nurse and the nurse's brother having

520
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:53.359
this incredible, incredible game camera photo. And you know what,

521
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.319
we know people like this, Sean. Sean and I both

522
00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:00.799
know people like this that they see something. This can't

523
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.400
be anything. I'm going to delete this, you know, rather

524
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:07.759
than hey, you know what, let you know that something

525
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:12.559
or they die. I know that happens.

526
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.359
We had that.

527
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:16.920
That We were trying to get the game cam photo

528
00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:19.680
for years, right, and he's passed away and we were

529
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:21.880
never able to get it. And he was adamant that

530
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:24.960
there was something remarkable on there, and lord knows.

531
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:25.400
We'll ever see it.

532
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:27.920
I mean, to the point is, you know, we've moved

533
00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:30.279
from the film age to the digital age, but how

534
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:34.960
many junk drawers or photograph packages or whatnot to people

535
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:38.039
have lying around that could have something in there that

536
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:41.519
we never know because you know who look, you know

537
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:43.519
who really goes back and looks at that stuff.

538
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:45.079
It's a good woint.

539
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:47.720
So I mean, it's it's to what we do.

540
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:49.559
But the one thing I guess I wanted to say

541
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:51.680
to kind of put a cap on this before we

542
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:56.200
go to our quick break, is the video was broken

543
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:58.559
down at the beginning of the episode very well and

544
00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:03.200
for folks that haven't seen before or have had an

545
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:05.880
opportunity to really dive into the back history of that

546
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:09.079
Vermont photograph, I think you guys did a great job

547
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:13.720
recapping that, going into it, adding some more you know,

548
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:16.400
exposition to it, and you got Steve there to talk

549
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:19.720
about it, and you know, you wrap it together nicely.

550
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:22.720
It's important that we go back and revisit these things.

551
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:25.519
And you know, alan you talk about people coming in

552
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:28.519
and you know, bit you to complaining because you know

553
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:30.559
they haven't paid attention and they don't listen.

554
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:33.519
It's prevalent to the whole history of Bigfoot.

555
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:35.400
Is that people if you would go back and actually

556
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:38.079
read a freaking book or go back and look at

557
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:41.480
some of these videos or old documentaries or even old podcasts,

558
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:44.119
a lot of these things have already been answered or

559
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:46.920
could be in those but you have to go back

560
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:47.119
and do.

561
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:48.640
A little research. And so.

562
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:53.839
It's you know, it's important that we go back and

563
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:55.880
we visit those things. You did a really good job

564
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:58.960
with the Vermont, with the Vermont footage, and I think

565
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.160
it was absolutely well done.

566
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:05.960
It was well done. Yeah, Yeah, it's again I think

567
00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:08.240
with Appalachian big fo files, and my goal was to

568
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:11.319
just you know, being from the Appalachian Mountains and myself.

569
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:13.559
I mean, I'm here in the northern part in New Hampshire.

570
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:16.599
Even though people get annoyed that I say Appalachians instead

571
00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:20.359
of Apple Lachians. You know, that's another debate for another time.

572
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:24.359
I love all my Southern people like they're great. You know,

573
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:29.119
you take like North Alabama, North Georgia, compare that to

574
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:31.279
New Hampshire and Maine. We're like a world of art.

575
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:33.839
But it's still the same mountain chain and the stories.

576
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:36.519
If you look at areas where habitat exists on the

577
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:39.519
East coast, if these things do exist, the Appalation Mountains

578
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:42.079
would probably be the best location, and then you you

579
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.039
go up and down the mountain chain. My goal was

580
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:47.279
just to document some of these stories. Again, that Pennsylvania

581
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:49.799
episode is probably still one of my favorites. Suskin Screaming.

582
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:52.440
I mean, that story is just so classic, and I

583
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.119
didn't know a whole lot about it until I actually

584
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:57.079
went and did that research into last year and when

585
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:58.599
I met up with you Matt and took me in

586
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:02.400
all the locations and at that author Stanley wrote about it,

587
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:05.000
and that's what I love about it. Every episode you

588
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:07.759
can watch as a standalone, but while you watch them

589
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:10.119
all together, they kind of have a little bit more

590
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:12.839
of a history about certain areas in particular areas.

591
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:15.680
So yeah, I love it, folks.

592
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:16.680
We're going to cap it on that.

593
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:17.240
We'll be back.

594
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:20.160
We'll talk a little bit more with Alex Bettakoff right

595
00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:22.920
after this. The big foot bullhorn coming at you. Smoke

596
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:24.960
him if you got them, shake a leg, whatever idea.

597
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:26.680
We'll see you back in about eight minutes. A little

598
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:36.160
long this week. You know, Vance gets a little windy.

599
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:39.480
Is Madison a bigfoot believing community?

600
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:41.400
You guys have vibes of people that might go out

601
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:42.079
there looking for him?

602
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:47.160
Yeah, no, sir, my man, a little too south for that.

603
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:47.720
Yeah.

604
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.400
And where do you live here?

605
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:49.680
Yeah?

606
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:53.440
Big so bigfoot people are aware north, so we're a

607
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:54.000
little too.

608
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:54.240
South for that.

609
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:54.480
Yeah.

610
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:55.400
And where's north of us?

611
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:55.559
Sir?

612
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:58.359
You don't have voice here? Oh shit, it's up north?

613
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:00.799
And what's up north Woods? Yeah?

614
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:00.960
Hi?

615
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:08.240
Yeah, Well, now see, sometimes the obvious is not that obvious. Well,

616
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:11.960
happy day to you all. Thanks for listening, whatever you

617
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:15.039
choose to listen, But you can always watch the show

618
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:20.119
live on YouTube. Just look for Sasquatch Experience. Our logo

619
00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:25.720
is a bigfoot foot print with Sasquatch Experience printed right

620
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.319
through the middle of it, and then click and subscribe

621
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:33.480
and you'll get notifications as to when we are going live. Anyway,

622
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.039
speaking of Michael Moore, I know we weren't speaking to

623
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.519
Michael Moore, but close here's an interesting story out of

624
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.480
the Smoky Mountains. I found it pretty fascinating. Give it

625
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:45.920
a listen.

626
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:49.359
Apparently bigfit is starting to come into people's houses in

627
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:53.039
Smoky Mountains and this story is circulating on TikTok and

628
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:55.799
one of my followers, actually you submitted, didn't shared it

629
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.440
with me, and you have to hear this one. This

630
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:03.000
happened between Gatlinburg and Cherkey, North Carolina, on a farm

631
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:06.599
that this family had recently purchased within the last few months.

632
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:08.279
So this lady said.

633
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:12.039
She first noticed in the barn area one day while

634
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:14.920
she was out in the barn the set of huge

635
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:19.039
footprints leading from the barn like back into the fore

636
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.799
with and vice versa. She had no explanation what these

637
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:24.920
things were. They were too big to be a human,

638
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.480
but she just thought a big bear. It had to

639
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:32.319
be a big bear. Fast forward a few days or weeks,

640
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:35.240
I'm not sure. One day, she and her daughter are

641
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.680
home alone and they're up in the attic just doing

642
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.880
some work. So as they're just doing some work upstairs

643
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.559
in the attic, they both hear very heavy footsteps enter

644
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.799
the house, too heavy to be a human, and she

645
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:51.680
immediately thinks this bear has gotten into her house. So

646
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.920
she instinctively tells her daughter just to be very quiet,

647
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:57.359
do not make a noise. You know, we're in a

648
00:32:57.359 --> 00:32:59.720
bad spot here. If this bear, you know, comes up

649
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.839
to stay, we can be in bad trouble. So, as

650
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:07.519
the attic door is still open to the downstairs, they

651
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:11.279
both start kind of peeking around trying to see downstairs

652
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.599
because they can hear these footsteps. But to her surprise,

653
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.640
it isn't a bear that walks into view. It's a

654
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:20.000
ginormous bigfoot.

655
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:20.759
She said.

656
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.559
This thing was covered in a reddish brown hair from

657
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:26.440
head to toe. It was built like a man, a

658
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:30.200
huge man. But it was a bigfoot. Now, if that

659
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:35.920
wasn't crazy enough, Just after this huge bigfoot stepped down

660
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.960
to their vision, filled of sight, she said, one that

661
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:44.039
was about four feet tall. The smaller one walked in also,

662
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.160
and at this point they are going into panic mode.

663
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.920
She's trying to tell her daughter just to be quiet.

664
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:50.880
They don't want to draw.

665
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:55.160
Attention to themselves, and they both are witnessing these two

666
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:59.680
bigfoots walk through their house and they're just kind of

667
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:03.240
out and grunting, making noises walking around.

668
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:05.880
After a few minutes, she said.

669
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:10.800
The biggest one walked back toward the door like it

670
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:15.000
was going to exit. Then right behind the smaller one

671
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:18.880
come back, but it just happened to stop, like right

672
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.599
in their field of viauty. At this point, both she

673
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:26.280
and her daughter were looking down at this thing and

674
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:29.239
the little one stopped, and she was just terrified that

675
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:31.159
this thing was going to look up and see them

676
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.840
looking back. But she said it stood there for a

677
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.519
few moments, just looking around, but it never did like

678
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.639
make eye contact with them, and eventually it made its

679
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.599
way out of the house too. They waited about thirty

680
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.920
minutes or so. Then she and her daughter they just

681
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:47.840
made a run for it.

682
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:48.480
They didn't hear.

683
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:51.400
Any other noises. She grabbed her car keys, they run

684
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:53.320
to the car, and they got out of there. She

685
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:56.559
wasn't a believer in bigfoot at least not until this happened.

686
00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:59.639
And the guy who I heard this from said that

687
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:04.280
she had took pictures. There was like muddy footprints on

688
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.159
the porch and she hadn't shared them with him yet.

689
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:11.159
But she supposedly does have pictures of that.

690
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:14.559
See it's one of those stories where the witnesses actually

691
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.840
had a higher advantage looking down on a big foot,

692
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.679
not looking down in a bad way. I'd be shaken

693
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:26.840
in my shoes when we come back. It's sweet transvestate

694
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:31.800
from transsexual Transylvania weight. I read that wrong. It's a

695
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.760
camping adventure in Pennsylvania.

696
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:39.639
You're listening to the big football horn right here on

697
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:41.519
the Sasquatch experience.

698
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:56.360
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699
00:35:56.920 --> 00:36:01.360
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700
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701
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704
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705
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706
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707
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708
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709
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714
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715
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716
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717
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718
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Bigfoot Campingadventure dot com. Thanks again for listening to this

719
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:46.760
edition of the Bigfoot Bullhorn right here on Anomalous Entertainment's

720
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:51.559
Sasquatch Experience, And as always I'm there we meet again.

721
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:53.400
Keep your toe in the mind.

722
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:57.440
I knew I had to pay attention to these bullhorns

723
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:02.559
a lot closer. Matt, what are you Assi sixteen? I mean,

724
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:05.320
we got to get this figured out. That's not the

725
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.599
good we signed up for there in Pennsylvania. But you

726
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:08.519
know what, no hate here.

727
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:11.000
We wrought of fun folks.

728
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.760
You're listening to the Sasquatch Experience, Sean Walker, Matt Arner,

729
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.199
Henry Maid, James Baker, who just jumped off Vance Nesbit.

730
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:20.800
In our guest tonight, Alex Pettikov having a great conversation

731
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:24.039
with Alex Knight about the Appalachian Bigfoot Files.

732
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:26.880
And other you know events.

733
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:29.320
One thing we did I did want to mention here

734
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:32.960
and Brian from Brian and Chewey Go Hiking that posted

735
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:37.639
it out about how the Northeast is underrated as far

736
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:41.280
as squatch in the mountain rages and on forest and go.

737
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:44.440
And we talked about that for years about how like

738
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:48.760
there's that disproportionate representation of the Pacific Northwest and it's

739
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:52.800
because I believe, aside from Paul Bartholomew and some others

740
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:55.880
from that early Paul maybe Stan Gordon from that early

741
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.760
part of the sixties and on, nobody was investigating it

742
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:00.559
here like they were out there.

743
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:01.679
Alex what do you think about that.

744
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:04.239
I agree, I think it's you know, you look at

745
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:06.519
the states that kind of broke the mold for the

746
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.719
kind of west coasts. The only place you know there

747
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:12.480
used to be people. Peter burn I think he said,

748
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:14.039
you know, there's no evidence that there would be anything

749
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:18.159
east of the Rockies basically, but you had legend of

750
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:21.280
Balggie Creek down in the South that kind of broke

751
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:23.719
the idea that maybe these things are actually east of

752
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.039
the Mississippi. You had Ohio one of those states I

753
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:30.199
think was always kind of ahead of the curve, Pennsylvania

754
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.679
kind of behind Ohio. Pennsylvania has been pretty known for

755
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:37.320
a while, whereas like you know, up here in New England,

756
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:40.119
very underrated. Yet we have, you know, some of the

757
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:43.840
earliest and some of the most classic Bigfoot stories out there.

758
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:46.440
I mean there's you know, as my buddy Jonathan Wilke

759
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:48.840
will tell you, there was a story from the late

760
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:53.519
seventeen hundreds in western Massachusetts of constables running into this

761
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.960
kind of sleeping ape creature. At that point, it wasn't

762
00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:00.360
even the United States, it was still British column So

763
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:02.599
you know, that may have been one of the earliest

764
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:05.639
documented sightings. There's just a long history here in New England,

765
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.800
really classic sightings up here in the northern part of

766
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.559
the Appalachians, and you go Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine,

767
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.559
the northern tier of New England, and even you know,

768
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.800
western Massachusetts to an extent where the Appalations run through,

769
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:19.360
which is some of the most rugged parts of the

770
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:21.760
whole mountain range. Up here in New Hampshire, I mean,

771
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:25.639
we have these mountains that are just I mean massive

772
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:27.719
and not maybe compared to some of the Western Mountains

773
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.960
but now Washington over six thousand feet and had some

774
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.239
of the worst weather on Earth. I mean, these these

775
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:37.119
very rugged areas. And what's interesting is these habitats support

776
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:41.159
a larger animals than any other part of the Appalachian Mountains. So,

777
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:45.320
you know, may in New Hampshire there's anywhere anywhere between

778
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:48.639
from the estimates, I've seen fifty to seventy thousand Eastern

779
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.559
moose residing in these you know, few million acres that

780
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:54.800
we have, which is the most amount of moose anywhere

781
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:57.320
in the US outside of Alaska, just to put into

782
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.599
please bank. And moose are giant animals, I mean, I

783
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:03.000
am sure, and I have moose on my property here.

784
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:05.679
They are these giant, you know, five hundred to one

785
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.039
thousand pound animals at least around here. They can get

786
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:11.960
bigger than that. They primarily spend their time eating there.

787
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:15.480
It's a lot of biomass. So that's just moose. I mean,

788
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:17.760
we have tons of black bear mains, got upwards of

789
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:20.719
thirty thousand black bear. You know, we have being so

790
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:22.559
close to Maine. Because the thing with Maine, you got

791
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:26.679
to realize Fifking Northern Maine is it's the northern sections

792
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:30.440
are millions of acres of undeveloped land that's actually considered

793
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:33.079
to be the most remote place anywhere east of the

794
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:36.760
Rocky Mountains, in like a contiguous area because nobody lives there.

795
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:40.920
It's considered actually a wilderness area. But the difference is

796
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:44.760
as opposed to say the Adirondacks, which is six million acres,

797
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:47.639
or know, we were talking about mononga Halo National Forest.

798
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:50.880
Some of these areas New Hampshire, like a fourth of

799
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:54.079
our state is the White Mountain National Forest. Northern Maine

800
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:56.800
is all owned by logging companies. It's all privately owned.

801
00:41:56.840 --> 00:42:00.320
It's not a state or national park or forest. So

802
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:03.679
there isn't really much access. People can get access, but

803
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:05.920
you have to pay, and it's it's it's a lot

804
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.280
un it's it's untapped. But there's moose everywhere. So the

805
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:12.039
amount of biomass needed to feed that many moose, that

806
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.199
many bear, and then I mean even more you're as

807
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:17.000
you go on down, but I'm talking just the largest

808
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:19.000
animal I always look at. Moose is kind of an

809
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:23.880
interesting biological or interesting bio kind of metric terms of

810
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:27.880
the habitat. If this place can support tens of thousands

811
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.840
of moose, you throw a dozen sasquatch into the mix,

812
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:35.559
is that impossible biologically speaking in terms of food and resources?

813
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:39.320
I mean I would say no, but that's so yeah.

814
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:41.760
I think these areas especially there's a very low population.

815
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:45.719
New Hampshire is just over a million people, same as Maine.

816
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:50.039
Vermonts like six hundred thousand. So there's there's like southern

817
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:53.639
New England, which is Connecticut, Rhode Island in Massachusetts has

818
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:54.719
more people.

819
00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:58.679
State than the whole of more than mine in this

820
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:02.320
territories were at it. And then the Order of Canada

821
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:06.760
the Province back, which is an untold makers that go

822
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:08.960
up in the Arctic that you know.

823
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:12.760
There's just so much. There's it's a ridiculous amount of space. So,

824
00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:16.079
you know, these areas while Newhamster state like Newhamshire Mott

825
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:18.920
might be small and we still have very rugged areas,

826
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:22.559
and the sightings I think reflect that way because they

827
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:26.880
do happen in some of these rural areas, and most

828
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:29.119
of the state is rural mains. The most forested state

829
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:32.400
in the US by percentage, New Hampshire's number two, West

830
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.519
Virginia's number three, Vermont's number four. You know, so like

831
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:38.360
there's they're they're all kind of up there, and once

832
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:41.400
you visit these areas, you realize why I think a

833
00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:43.199
lot of people will get this idea that New England

834
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:48.800
is all it's Boston, it's urban. It's both it's Jaws

835
00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:51.960
or it's you know, Stephen King, it's it's all suburban.

836
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.840
But that's you know, select few areas. You know, once

837
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:56.840
you get out into the countryside, like where I live too,

838
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:59.360
I mean, there's just not a lot out here. There's

839
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:01.199
a lot of wood, a lot of people living in

840
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:04.320
these areas, and yeah, so I think they're definitely underrated.

841
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:06.880
Like there's so many again, I can't even begin to

842
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.440
tell you all the amazing stories that have come out

843
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:11.440
of these areas. You know, we talked about obviously the

844
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:14.280
Vermont case and that Whitehall I would say is like

845
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.119
the East coast Bigfoot capital or east of the Northeast,

846
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:20.440
just in terms of this region. But you know, again,

847
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.800
Vermont has a long history from north to south. And

848
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:26.039
I'm working on a video about the Bennington Triangle, but

849
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:28.400
I'm also assuming to be looking on a video about

850
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:32.760
the Ossipe tribe in New Hampshire, which is this circular

851
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:36.559
volcanic mountain range mini mountain range that has a long

852
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:38.960
history of interesting sightings, including one of the weirdest big

853
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:42.280
Foot sightings I've ever heard, which was this creature seen

854
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:46.320
in this stacked stone hut with like a hemlock branch roof.

855
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:50.400
It was very interesting. I interviewed the sighting almost ten

856
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.679
years ago. But that area has a long history of sightings,

857
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:56.239
and yeah, they're there. I think, you know, these things

858
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:58.159
are moving through these areas. You don't need to have

859
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:02.079
a lot of them. There's enough habitat here to support

860
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:04.719
you know, a good amount. Again, I'm not I'm not

861
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.199
saying there's like thousands of these things running around, but

862
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:09.920
you know, there's thousands of moose and bear throwing a

863
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:13.639
few dozen sasquatch. And I think that's that's not.

864
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:19.559
Implausible, it's very plausible, right, Very good.

865
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:21.000
Yeah, absolutely correct.

866
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:23.960
There was a question here from our friend Mike Mike

867
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:28.880
wants Stone. Alex, Well, that was not the one question

868
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:30.719
I wanted to ask, but we'll ask that one right now.

869
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:33.960
Had you had any recent reports of mountain lions, uh

870
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:35.199
sightings in the Northeast.

871
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:38.440
Yeah, recently somebody was telling me about one near the

872
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:42.400
Quabbin Reservoir in Massachusetts. I can't remember who I was

873
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:47.239
talking to, but uh, there's there's always stories of mountain lions,

874
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:49.639
and you know, I did a whole documentary on Lines

875
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:51.760
of the East about the mystery big cat Sitans, and

876
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.840
you know, there's there's documented DNA verified cases where mountain

877
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.960
lions have been discovered in an area and then stay

878
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:03.159
have kind of downplayed that significance. I think it's a

879
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:05.159
government money issue because they don't want to deal with

880
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:08.639
another predator. But that's that's another story for another day.

881
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:11.239
But yeah, so there there definitely have been some. So

882
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.199
it's a yeah, it's one of those things because I

883
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:15.960
I you know, I go to some of these events

884
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:17.559
and people would tell me, well, I haven't seen a

885
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:19.599
big foot, but did see a mountain lion. And I

886
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.960
started getting a lot of these stories. And that's what

887
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.559
kind of was the impetus for giving a whole documentary

888
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:26.800
about like the mystery big cat topics specifically.

889
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:30.159
Well, you know, my old physician was a member of

890
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:31.880
the Eastern Puma Research Network.

891
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:34.159
We used to spend a short.

892
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.280
Amount of time in my uh doctor visits talking about

893
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.119
bigfoot and mountain lion or what other big cats were seeing.

894
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:43.440
It's always interesting to me that, you know, again the

895
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:47.480
denial from some of the agencies that you know, just

896
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:50.280
refused to acknowledge that these things are in our in

897
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:53.840
our forests, and you know that pose an actual, real danger.

898
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:56.320
We could say we want about sasquatch, you know, and

899
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:58.599
and there's a lot left to put on the table,

900
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:03.039
but we do know that big cats could you know,

901
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:05.800
potentially be a real present danger for folks, and if

902
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:09.239
they are here, that's a public safety to acknowledge that

903
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:11.679
that shouldn't be brushed into the rug. That should be Hey,

904
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.079
let's post them, let's put some wags up there, and

905
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:17.679
let's just make sure folks are being safe. You know,

906
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:20.440
it's no different than bears. We acknowledge bears exist, but

907
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:22.880
probably more likely to be attacked by an outline than

908
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.119
you would be a bear though, I mean, I I

909
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:29.199
don't know, it's just like you said, knowledge well around.

910
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:32.639
Here, statistically, I think moose and in general, yeah, moose

911
00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:36.280
dangerous and alasta they are statistically the most dangerous because

912
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:39.639
I think there's the most amount of moose human interactions

913
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:42.079
and moose, Like when I'm out here in the woods,

914
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.519
I don't care about black bear nine times. I mean,

915
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:45.880
I was getting the mail the other day and I

916
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:47.920
had to run in with a black bear. You know,

917
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:49.519
that's how many we have up here. But if it

918
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:51.920
was a moose, I probably would have reacted a little

919
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:54.440
differently because I had no bear spray, you know, firing

920
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:57.280
nothing on me, just getting the mail. But a moose, yeah,

921
00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:00.760
they're unfortunately, you know, they're they're beautiful MAJORI animals, but

922
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:04.960
they are not very intelligent, and they especially certain times

923
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.360
a year, the males can be provoked and like snowmobilers,

924
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.000
get attack, but they're they're still pretty rare. I mean,

925
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:12.639
but you know, you like ask ask Brian in the

926
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.280
chat there my buddy Brian Carvey. You know what it's

927
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:16.920
like running into a moose and you're hiking in the

928
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:19.320
middle of nowhere, as he's had happen to him. It's

929
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.039
not a fun experience. And then you're also decides Nope,

930
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.079
I'm not messing with this guy. I mean, just there's

931
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.559
cheers size of these things. I've been with people up here.

932
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:29.960
We've been driving back roads and all of a sudden,

933
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:31.559
a moose runs out in front of the road, and

934
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:33.599
you know, people that have never seen a moose before,

935
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:37.159
and there's like, oh my god, that's a moose. I'm like, yeah,

936
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.199
you see what I'm talking about. Now, this is no joke.

937
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:42.639
They big, they've been They're scary. Yet it's like when

938
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:44.800
you and when you hit them, it's like I've heard

939
00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:47.440
people describe you're hitting just a giant, seven hundred pound

940
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:51.280
meat sack on possicle stage and it's a windshield, right,

941
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:55.159
so kill you. It's not about rush into a tree.

942
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:57.960
Well you know where Alec or Alex Well, Alex and

943
00:48:57.960 --> 00:48:59.440
I spent a lot of time. Matt and I's been

944
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:02.679
a decent ment of time. We have ELK. Yeah, the

945
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:05.880
movies about probably still a little bigger than the elk.

946
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:10.039
And I mean I've run into elk. I mean we

947
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:11.840
saw something. We were out there with you guys last

948
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:14.559
spring too. But I've run into elk in Colorado and

949
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:18.440
like northern California, and they can be pretty intimidating, even

950
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:21.400
in the Smokies. Yeah, they're they're not to be trifled

951
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.360
with it. I was watching tourists in Rocky Mountain National

952
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:27.400
Park walking up to you know, bull elks sitting there

953
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:29.760
in the field, and I'm like, like one of those

954
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:32.880
Dumus videos, you know, like you see in these national parks.

955
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.000
So people have lost all naturally instinct and fear, I guess.

956
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:44.159
But I did find the question from from Mike that

957
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.480
was it was around what conditions bother you the most?

958
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:48.519
Rain or bugs?

959
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:54.039
I think he's asked on purpose. He knows the struggles

960
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:59.199
that we've been through. You know what bothers me the most?

961
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:03.800
Probably I would say rain. At this point I got

962
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:07.559
a caveat. I'd say rain is probably the most annoying

963
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:10.000
because it's it can often be a buzzkill. Like we've

964
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:12.400
had outings we planned with Mike and other guys up

965
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:14.880
here in the Northeast, and you know, this weekend is

966
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:17.360
gonna be great, and then that whole weekend is torrential downpour,

967
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:20.280
so we either have to cancel plans. Well, Brian and

968
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.400
I have said the embrace the suck where you just

969
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:25.360
but then as you just sit there, you're soaking wet

970
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:29.119
after just having cooked the giant pancake and a skillet,

971
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.360
and all of a sudden, the skies have opened up

972
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:33.199
on you and you are soaked head to toe and

973
00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:35.360
you just sit there kind of wallowing in your misery,

974
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:39.360
eating this soggy pancake out of the pan, and there's

975
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:41.280
nothing you can do in that moment. So I'd say

976
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:44.719
rain maybe edges out bugs. I can deal with bugs

977
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:48.800
after having into Alaska and Larry Beans Baxter can attest it.

978
00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:51.400
And when we went out to the middle of nowhere,

979
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:55.760
like three hours outside of Fairbanks, it was hell on earth. Yeah,

980
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:58.840
I mean they're you know, the state burd in Alaska.

981
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:03.920
They just are lenting like swellow myat in my face

982
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:06.679
despite wearing a net all weekend. So after dealing with

983
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.880
those bugs, bugs else, we don't really bother me. But

984
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:12.079
the rain I think edges out in terms of being

985
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:15.239
the worst. So but sometimes rain can be great, you know,

986
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:18.400
but other times it's just plain annoying. When it rains

987
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:20.480
every day on like a week long trip.

988
00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:21.800
Hey, we get that one.

989
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:24.719
Matt and I just had to cancel some adventures because

990
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:26.039
of some rain ourselves.

991
00:51:26.639 --> 00:51:26.960
Scott.

992
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.000
Question from Scott Alex at your night to cook dinner

993
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.320
at the camp out, what's the meal you're making?

994
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:37.000
Love that question, that's a good one. I don't know.

995
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:38.480
I mean, I feel like a lot of times it

996
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:42.719
just depends. I let Brian do the cooking because he's

997
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.480
he's a very skilled camp chef. But if it's me,

998
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:52.639
my cat just ran off, I think just maybe just burgers.

999
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:54.559
I mean, I'd like to keep it simple. I think

1000
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:58.840
Burger likes a nice skill it camp burger, you know.

1001
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:02.000
I think that's just a good cl you know. I'd

1002
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:03.880
like doing breakfast too, like somebody will do like a

1003
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:06.960
breakfast for dinner. That works too. But actually, I got

1004
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:09.079
this one meal that I make that I've only done

1005
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:11.400
a camping a few times. It's more of like a

1006
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:15.280
post workout meal. But it's this spicy Korean beef dish.

1007
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:15.920
Nice.

1008
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:17.519
The only thing is you got out of like pre

1009
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:21.280
made rice. It's hard cooking rice. In the woods, like

1010
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:24.880
a spicy Korean bulgogie style dish that we made on

1011
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:27.039
a camping out and once it was really good, especially

1012
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:28.800
in the cold weather, like really warms you up. But

1013
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:32.440
I'd say burgers the nice a nice camp burger. You

1014
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:33.199
cannot go wrong.

1015
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:35.880
Oh great, now I'm hungry, all right.

1016
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:39.760
You know when you're with Matt and I, Matt and

1017
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:41.519
I don't do a lot of cooking and camp. We

1018
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:45.840
will drive miles to restaurants, all right, we will because

1019
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:48.239
we uh, well, yeah, I get it.

1020
00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:50.360
Like a lot of times, like like Mike Lucci, I

1021
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:53.519
and Brian, like we seek out fun places to eat,

1022
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:55.679
like on our way when we're driving out, like that

1023
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:58.679
mythical pizza place. Oh, this local place is known for

1024
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:01.199
their wings. Let's get that. Like you got indulged a

1025
00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:03.400
little bit. But you know, you're out in the back

1026
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:05.239
country a lot of times, like if it's a backpacking

1027
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:08.840
tribu eating those you know, mountainhouse meals, the freeze driede stuff,

1028
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:11.480
those can get pretty rough. They're really Like I remember

1029
00:53:11.480 --> 00:53:13.800
ten years ago, there was very few options. Now, I

1030
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:17.320
mean I can get like Korean beef freeze dry, like

1031
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:20.000
there's some really good options nowadays more companies getting into it.

1032
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:23.320
But car camping is the best because we just we

1033
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:25.159
can load up and bring all this stuff and then

1034
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.159
have everything we need. So we we we pretty extravagant.

1035
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:29.400
You might have seen in some of our videos. You

1036
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:33.199
know we're having like deer meat that that Mike Lucci

1037
00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:34.800
had caught, and you know we were doing that like

1038
00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:38.199
tacos and yeah, we we definitely like to like to

1039
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:42.440
feast pretty good and some of these matures. He's not wrong,

1040
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:46.400
but just trying to get ten miles into the back

1041
00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:48.719
country and all you have is those freeze read meals.

1042
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:49.960
So you've got to do what you gotta do. But

1043
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:53.840
if you got the chance, you know, make something nice.

1044
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:58.360
Henry, we can kind of you done. In the bottom corner.

1045
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:02.800
What questions you got for Alex here, buddy, Well, I

1046
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:06.480
was wondering about the state of Maine.

1047
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:08.760
I know you've been there a few times.

1048
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:12.880
As far as how would the mountainous areas in the

1049
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:16.360
state of Maine compared to West Virginia compared to the

1050
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:19.079
Pacific Northwest, I'd.

1051
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:22.400
Say more rugged than West Virginia. Now, West Virginia has

1052
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:25.440
some amazing rugged places that the hills and the haulers

1053
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:28.119
and they have you know, as I've heard Joe Purdue

1054
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:30.880
over wild and Weird West Virginia has described it a

1055
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:32.840
few years ago in a video. It's like a crumpled

1056
00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:35.840
you know, crumpled carpet. You crumple it up and you

1057
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:37.840
have all these contours. That's kind of like the whole

1058
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.280
state of West Virginia. Fun fact, West Virginia is the

1059
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:43.760
only state that is both fully in the Appalachian Mountains

1060
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:48.360
and culturally in the socio cultural region known as Appalachia,

1061
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:50.880
So it's it's in both. But Maine has a little

1062
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.280
bit more rugged mountains. So Maine has Alcatatin, which if

1063
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:55.880
you look at picture as you could, you would think

1064
00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:58.159
it's a mountain maybe out west it's it's only about

1065
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:01.760
five thou five thousand something feet, but it's the terminus

1066
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.800
of the Appalation Trail. So the hikers that go up there,

1067
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:08.119
they end on Mount Katada and New Hampshire I think

1068
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:10.840
is overall the most rugged in this area, and a

1069
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:12.599
lot of people say it's the most rugged part of

1070
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:13.639
the entire appellation.

1071
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:15.639
Washington, right, yeah.

1072
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:17.800
Mount Washington. You know there's some places that really will

1073
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.519
like I've run into people out in the White Mountains

1074
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:22.800
that are from the west coast, and they're very shocked

1075
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:24.840
to see because they joke around that we don't have

1076
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:27.480
mountains on these coast. We just have hills and like

1077
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:29.960
most of the appellations I would say are kind of

1078
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:33.039
like even compared to our mountains are are you know,

1079
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:36.280
hills and some contours, but it gets pretty rugged. But

1080
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:39.079
I would say the Pacific Northwest still obviously some of

1081
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:41.559
those you know, the Cascade Range and the Olympics, they

1082
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:44.559
edge out the mountains out here. But as Cliff Barrickman

1083
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:47.840
has told them multiple times, he has felt that when

1084
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:49.760
he visited New Hampshire in some parts of main and

1085
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:52.639
that it was like a many It was a Pacific

1086
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:56.800
Northwest on three quarters scale as he described. I was

1087
00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:59.679
just talking Renee recently. She said she'd always been very

1088
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:02.360
so that how rugged it was up here when they visited.

1089
00:56:03.559 --> 00:56:05.760
And you know what, our mountains aren't trying to kill

1090
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:07.639
us every so often.

1091
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:12.119
Yeah, yeah, so it's again, it's uh, I've hiked all

1092
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.239
the mountains in New Hampshire that are over four thousand

1093
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:16.679
feet tall. There's about forty eight of them. So is

1094
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:19.719
Brian there and you see some of them. I mean,

1095
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:21.519
you can take a picture of it and it looks

1096
00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:24.079
like you're in the Pacific Northwest with the pines. We

1097
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:26.920
have a lot more pines, and then we do deciduous

1098
00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:28.880
especially in the higher elevations up here, when you get

1099
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:32.639
alpine zones that start over four thousand feet, So you

1100
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:34.960
can be hiking for two thousand feet in an alpine

1101
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:38.159
zone and you're totally exposed. Whereas down south in that

1102
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:41.199
say the Smokey's or North Carolina, they have some mountains

1103
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:43.159
that are over six thousand feet, but you're up on

1104
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:46.159
Mountain Mitchell, and you know, you still have a completely

1105
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:49.400
you know, a summit that's enclosed by you can't see it.

1106
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:52.440
So it's definitely a little different.

1107
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:53.280
Yeah.

1108
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:56.000
Well, you know, elevation, as Matt and I are starting

1109
00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:59.960
to learn, I think, plays an element in this game.

1110
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:04.039
And you know, we were told by a gentleman we

1111
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:06.519
were doing a little presentation, you know that over a

1112
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:11.519
certain elevation we would notice an absent of animals. And

1113
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:16.360
sure enough, we hit that elevation and there was an

1114
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:19.480
absence of animals. And I think it was just by

1115
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:24.360
happenstance that guy came into our presentation and shared that

1116
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:27.880
detail with us, And it's something we've heard over the years,

1117
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:29.800
but I've never seen anything to it. But Matt and

1118
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:32.360
I were able to in the moment go, holy shit,

1119
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:35.400
this guy wasn't pulling a leg, he wasn't bullshitting us.

1120
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:38.440
And you go down to that elevation and into a

1121
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:41.960
field there's like all the deer and elk and everything. Fine,

1122
00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:45.920
but you go above that there was nothing and why

1123
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:50.119
and that was a pretty interesting notation. I think Matt

1124
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:51.880
and I wouldn't try that a little bit more and

1125
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:53.760
would love to see that in other areas and see

1126
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:56.800
how that would correspond any of your notes or anything

1127
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:59.199
Alex in that respect, Like.

1128
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:02.599
I just want to drew us. One comment there from

1129
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:05.400
Brian says few deaths this year in Mount Washington just

1130
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.519
last week. Yeah, this is crazy. I mean Mount Washington

1131
00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:12.000
has killed hundreds of people over pat you know, one hundred,

1132
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:14.239
tw hundred years, and just just a few weeks ago,

1133
00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:17.440
a guy or last week, a guy was hiking at

1134
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:19.440
the top of the mountain, which is there's a visitor center,

1135
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:21.519
there's a train that goes up to the mountains, kind

1136
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:24.840
of like a pike. Right, Yeah, you've got a cog

1137
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:27.119
train that goes up there. This guy, he was at

1138
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:29.599
the visitor center and he wandered off and got lost

1139
00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:31.960
in an area. When then we're talking, the top of

1140
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:35.719
this mountain is exposed. I mean there's no trees.

1141
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:38.239
For thousands, Yeah, wildly.

1142
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:41.719
And he got lost and was found days later dead.

1143
00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:44.599
I mean that's just how in crazy the mountain they're crazy,

1144
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:48.400
the weather conditions, everything, so it's not to be underestimated. Again,

1145
00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:49.360
I did.

1146
00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:53.480
Climb to the summit of Mount Washington and it did

1147
00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:56.719
not take the cog. My cousin and myself we did

1148
00:58:56.719 --> 00:59:01.280
climb to the summit of Mount Washington and it was

1149
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:05.800
crazy as the culture. You get to the summit, there's

1150
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:09.239
no vegetation there once none.

1151
00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:11.400
Yeah, a lot of people again.

1152
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:13.119
Get surprised that kind of stuff exists on the East

1153
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:16.400
Coast and you know again Katada and has places like that.

1154
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:20.280
But to your point, Sean about the wildlife, yeah, I mean, uh,

1155
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:22.400
I mean I know here like moose will even go

1156
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:24.440
to the top of some of these mountains. It's very

1157
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:27.360
uh oh yeah, that was Brian had told me about

1158
00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:30.840
that they had scared these you know, the most thing

1159
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:33.639
of saying is or the most well known one is

1160
00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:35.719
about you know, the mountains. The mountains will be there

1161
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:39.400
another day, who might not be. So I've had I

1162
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:41.280
had a few where we've had to pull the plug

1163
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:44.880
and say, guys, it's way too cold, it's getting unsafe.

1164
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:46.800
We got a head back and we've had to we've

1165
00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:48.840
had to stop me. And we had a situation this

1166
00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:51.639
past winter with Brian and Mike Lucci and we were

1167
00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:53.719
trying to get to this cabin on top of this mountain,

1168
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:55.760
and you know, we were tugging through snow and it

1169
00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:57.559
got to the point where we just said we got

1170
00:59:57.559 --> 01:00:01.239
to call it. You're not it's not worth the risk point, right, Yeah,

1171
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:03.960
they're no joke. But the animals they deal with it again.

1172
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:06.800
You know, in the dead of winter, you're looking around

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01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:08.480
you like, why would anyone anything you want to live here?

1174
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:12.000
And you realize there's thousands of moose around you. You know,

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01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:14.800
not in the immediate vicinity, but you know within the

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01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:17.719
area you're in or the national forest, so you know,

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01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:20.639
certain elevations up here, you know, you do still get

1178
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:23.559
some of these, like bears and moose will sometimes wander

1179
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:26.559
up past the alpine zone and they'll be really famous

1180
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:28.320
pictures of like a bull moose up on the top

1181
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:31.880
of the mountain unobstructed view. But for the most part

1182
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:36.119
around here, I believe the animals stay mostly in the valleys,

1183
01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:37.960
but they do move up the mountains, and a lot

1184
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:39.679
of these mountains they do, you know, the smaller ones

1185
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:43.079
they do have treed summits, so it's you know, a

1186
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:46.400
lot of plenty of vegetation. I mean, there's you know,

1187
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:48.880
mountains in Vermont. I've been up to three four thousand

1188
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:51.119
feet that you'll just see moose scant all the way

1189
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:53.280
going up the mountain and they're using the human trail

1190
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:55.920
and the roads to go up. So they're moving up

1191
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:59.280
there for whatever reason, you know, following food or or

1192
01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:01.760
or certain types of plants. You know, if you're for

1193
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:04.639
the most you're eating a lot, so you're always on

1194
01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:08.119
what to eat. So that's that's there. That's basically all

1195
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:08.480
they do.

1196
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:13.039
Well, guys, we hit that time at ten o'clock.

1197
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:14.480
We're out of time for tonight.

1198
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:17.480
Alex would love to get you back again at some point, buddy,

1199
01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:20.960
what's next. What do you got going on?

1200
01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:24.840
Oh, there's a lot going on. I'll just put a

1201
01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:27.719
few in here, you know, obviously, you know I do

1202
01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:30.719
a bunch of different series, A small Town Monsters, Be

1203
01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:33.800
on the Trail. I'm gonna be filming some very exciting

1204
01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:36.920
stuff for that soon. You know, certain places, I'll throw

1205
01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:39.960
some teasers out there, you know, maybe certain states that

1206
01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:42.119
are disconnected from the rest of the US. You know,

1207
01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:44.880
well we'll put it that way. Uh, we give that

1208
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:48.079
one away. A little bit strange places. A series that

1209
01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:51.480
focuses more on not just big Foot stuff, but their

1210
01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:54.920
cryptid and paranormal stuff. A few episodes about that. I

1211
01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:59.760
mentioned Bennington Triangle, awsofy Triangle, really weird Bigfoot stories. And

1212
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:02.920
then more appilation KFA Files, which will continue to cover

1213
01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:06.440
parts of the North in other areas. But we have

1214
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:09.440
an exciting episode of Ape Canyon. The Journey to Ape

1215
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:12.400
Canyon with on the Trail will be coming at some

1216
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:15.039
point in the next few months. I don't know when. Sorry,

1217
01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:19.880
I can't give me specifics, but oh, that's okay. STM

1218
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:21.920
has got a lot of Abe Canyon stuff we're working on,

1219
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:23.559
and this is going to be a really fun one

1220
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:25.880
because it's going to be a very unique look at

1221
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:28.559
the location where Ape Canyon is. And you know, we

1222
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:30.199
went on a great adventure there last year.

1223
01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:34.360
So right, well, thank you Alex.

1224
01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:36.159
Folks, we want to thank you for winning in it

1225
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:38.960
being a great audience tonight. Of course, listen to the

1226
01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:42.440
Sasquatch Experience. He's Van Sniz, but I'm Sean Forger. That's

1227
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:45.480
Henry may Matt at the bottom. James Baker had to

1228
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:46.960
leave us, and we hope he's okay.

1229
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:47.800
Alex.

1230
01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:50.719
Once again, thank you, Henry take us out with those

1231
01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:54.360
dulcet tones. Well as all. I want to thank Alex

1232
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:56.639
for coming on and I it was a great interview

1233
01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:59.880
and you all be good or be good at it.

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01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:03.039
There it is, folks, we'll see you in two weeks.

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01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:14.119
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