March 24, 2025

EP 121: Shooting Bigfoot

EP 121: Shooting Bigfoot

The SE Crew talks about the supposed shooting of a Bigfoot in California in the 2010s....


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The SE Crew talks about the supposed shooting of a Bigfoot in California in the 2010s....


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The views and opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch

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Experience do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the host, sponsors,

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or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. As always, listener discretion

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is advised.

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We got someone or something crawling around out here?

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Does a legend walk among us working in the forests

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of our world?

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Did you see what it was? Was it a person

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or an animal?

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Or I can't go.

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All I know is that my thunder light came on

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and I get happened to glen and see this thing

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running across the yard. A good fight man or something

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works like a man.

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I don't know what it was.

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For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators,

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and witnesses trying to gain insight and truth around the

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existence of this mysterious entity.

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Quite Karl, Hello, get somebody out here. What's going to

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announce their invention about sixty four nine? I don't know,

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is the announcer, Yeah, I'm walking right away?

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Oh okay, hand.

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On, yeah, got you're big? Okay, what's he doing in

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your yard?

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We're gonna do you.

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Join us as we continue into the investigation, of the

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Sasquatch Experience.

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And good evening everyone, Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience. I'm

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Sean the Fort Chop fork Er. That's Vance Nesbit, Henry May,

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James Baker, and Matt Arner here tonight talking to you

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about a very interesting subject that, you know what, we've

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never talked about on this show before ever. I think

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Henry in the history of Sasquatch Experience. Now we've got

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a little pone. I think somebody's.

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That was me.

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I apologize jam Vance anyhow, so much as I love

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hearing the sound of my own voice. Easy, Pilgrim, Easy,

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This is my family show. Happy Saint Patrick's Day to everybody.

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Aaron Gobra and I hope you're all in this. This

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great day here, beautiful day for most of us, looks

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like some of the severe weather behind most of us.

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And just an apology to all our listeners that we've

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been kind of absent for the last few weeks. I

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think we've all been hit with every kind of flu,

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every kind of stomach virus, and every own personal thing

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we could go through the last few weeks. That's kind

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of made it difficult for us all to collectively join

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together and it's always better when that's the muffler man himself.

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And we're just glad to be here, you know. But

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as I was getting into this saying, we've never talked

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about this before, and tonight we're going to talk about

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shooting Bigfoot. We're going to talk about the Justin Smeya

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incident that actually we kind of spurned by watching that

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great documentary of the man who killed Bigfoot on Small

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Town Monsters, which is superbly done video by Eli Watson

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under the STM label, And if you haven't got a chance,

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check that out.

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So yeah, it's only been out for a couple of

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weeks now, right, right, right.

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We got to do our role call. We've got mister

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Scott there, Scott, good to see, mister Hyde, mister Steve, welcome, Kim.

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If you play a sas squatch and regularly water it,

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does it grow a new one when you harvest it

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and can tell when it's ripe? Well, if you smell

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them enough, you can tell they're right.

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That's right, And but you got to squeeze the tush.

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Oh good, and a roll call so far, and of

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course you've got other folks that we can't see. But

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glad you are here with us tonight, so advance. Well,

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I guess before we get started, Matt, did we want

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to talk about some exciting stuff that we had going on.

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And it's been kind of busy for you and I

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in terms of intake for bigfoot sighting, so go ahead

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and give us a little rundown on that.

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Well. Uh, we actually had a couple of reports come

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in that were fresh, and when I say fresh, I

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mean they were they were absolutely fresh. So, uh, the

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first one we jumped on really really quick, and it

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was actually, uh, you know, the person had had reached

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you know, after I think it was twenty four hours

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after we spoke to him, it was blasted all over Facebook.

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before it really hit the public. But I was actually

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just out there today out in that area, so I

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didn't stop by that specific area, but you know, I

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was out in Center County when earlier today. But the

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second one's pretty interesting as well. I'm still making coordination

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here to to do a phone interview with the witness.

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He believes he saw something in his backyard and he

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actually casted a track that he found it that he

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found the very next day. So we're uh, you know,

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playing email tag right now to try to set up

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a time that we can now go up and see

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them check out the area. It's just kind of a

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strange I had been saying that between January and March

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in this particular area we seem to have, you know,

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either some sort of rewards come in and uh, it

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really came through. It came through later. And that may

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have been because of the you know, colder temperatures. We

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actually had a real winter uh this uh this past winter,

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so uh with the very end of that, and nothing's

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really growing right now. Uh, we're just starting to see

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the growing season basically start. But two weeks ago we

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had really nothing going on. So uh, you know, if

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anything's out there looking for food, they're they're going for

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you know, the the easiest thing should be you know,

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hitting maybe town dumps or where this place was. There

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was a hatchery nearby, so interesting stuff. But we collect

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the information. You know, we have a friend of ours

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that that puts all this into basically a data format,

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and yeah, we'll use that for you.

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Know, trending Jerbass Place.

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Absolutely checking these places out in the future.

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You and I did interview the one witness by the

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phone for an hour, yes, and we had a really

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good conversation. But the hard part of it came when

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it was blasted all over social media. The exact location,

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by the way, not a general location, yes, and that

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kind of really diminished what Matt and I felt we

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could get from it. Now, I think it's still worthy

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to go out there at some point, but I think

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we chose to do it after it calmed down a

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little bit and I had a foot thing going on

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which prevented me from getting out there. But as the

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weather's warm up a little bit, I think maybe it's

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time we could go down, Matt Bake and check it

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out when it's died down a little bit. Because I

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just feel that if we go out there now, anything

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that we're gonna we're gonna take away could possibly be

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contaminated or.

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I have been been told from a friend of mine

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that lives out there that ever since that report hit Facebook,

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that particular parking lot where where the witness had purchased

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truck has been full day and night. Ever since that

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that report was posted, So I'm sure there are plenty

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of people going out there, you know, just uh yeah,

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well it's frustrated for us, yep, yeah, absolutely, And you.

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Know, I also reached out to the BFRO investigator on

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Facebook as I set a friend request, which might be

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a little off putting, but I don't have any other

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contact for him, just to see if we could you know,

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share note sir or whatnot. And I've gotten nothing back.

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But I'm not happy at all that the area was

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just blasted like that on social media and some people

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should just know better, right. This isn't one of those

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situations where more boots on the ground help. It's really

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a lot more of more people in that area are

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going to contaminate. And the witness was still very gun.

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He texted me yesterday that he's back and is still

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in I mean he's still been in contact with me, Matt.

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I hadn't had a chance to talk to you yet.

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So he's been regular contact with me about it, which

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is you know, telling in terms of you know, reliability

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and credibility. He's not shying away, and I don't think

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our reservation was ever really that this guy's not being

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honest with us. I think it's really just all of

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a sudden, we're going to have all the saturation and

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it's going to be useless.

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And again, when if we give an area, and out

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of respect for landowners, out of respect for other people

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that are that are in the area, we we try well,

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if we're going to say something publicly, we're not going

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to give that exact exact location. And I mean this

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was put out there as to what parking lot he

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was at, what stream he crossed, uh, you know, right

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down to the tree that the peak was made from,

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so uh you know. And the one thing is is

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that we're talking about an area that's a mix of

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both wooded area and farmland and so this patch of woods,

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albeit you know, larger than what most people might be

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but used to it, is still relatively small in that patchwork.

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So if there's if there was anything that was that

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was there, I'm sure they're long gone right by now,

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and hopefully they didn't get picked up in the tornado

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that we just had up.

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There right right up in the research area.

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Absolutely, So that's our.

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Research update, guys, just to kill everybody in on what's

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been going on. I know our Patreon has been a

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little active too, but we're gonna be bumping that back

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up now as we're getting more out there. We've got

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a lot going on again this spring into the falls,

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we get ready for the Ohio Bigfoot Conference less than

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just a little over a month away now at this point,

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all of us going to be there about six weeks

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live and in color. We're gonna be there having a

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good old time. So check us out, hit us up,

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we'll be there. So Vance, this was your show. This

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is you wanted to hit this topic, I'm gonna throw.

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It to you.

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I'm gonna let you take us through this very interesting situation.

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Really. Yeah, Well, let me start off by making an analogy.

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I don't know if any of you, gentlemen, or our

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great listening audience has ever had this type of an experience. Uh,

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Let's say you go to YouTube tube and you see

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a video pop up of the greatest hits of a

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certain year that really affected you, like, say, for me,

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nineteen seventy six. Oh, the greatest hits of nineteen seventy six.

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Oh okay, I'm kind of in a nostalgic mood. And

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let's so I hit play and we're listening to some

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songs from nineteen seventy six, and then a song comes

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on and I'm like, wait, I never heard this one before.

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That's how I felt about the Justin Smeya story. I

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never heard this story before. And I've been involved in

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the big Foot community for well over twenty years now,

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I never heard this story of the man who shot

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Bigfoot and small Tom Monsters came out with a wonderful documentary.

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Like you know, Sean mentioned earlier that Eli Watson narrated

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and edited by Seth Breedlove, and so I'm watching this

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and I'm like, wow, this is really intriguing, and so

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I watched the entire documentary. Now, to be fair, there's

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one thing about what Seth does when he comes out

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with his documentaries is that he does not play one

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side of the field or the other. He plays it

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right down the middle. So he gives you the pros

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and the cons. And Eli did the same thing. He's

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not saying this story is factual story. He's giving you

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the negatives and the positives. So the video or the

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documentary rather starts out with when Justin shared his story,

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the negative feedback that he got online of people just

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calling him every name, in the book and being a

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family friendly show, I'm not going to use some of

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the profan or profound language that was used to call him.

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But I was like, well, this is kind of interesting.

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is full of it or not full of it. But

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there were three points in the video that ELI did

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with him, and ELI said the same thing, He's not

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going to call this a factual story or a non

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factual story. They just did an interview with Justin Smeya

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on his account. So I encourage our entire listening audience

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to go and watch the video or the documentary from

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Small Town Monsters because it was so well done. It's

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very well done, just like everything else that you know

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small Town Monsters puts out. It's a great production. But

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this one I found kind of fascinating because I found

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three points that left me scratching my head. Its like,

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I have questions here, and I'll start off with the

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first one. And I don't want to taint to anybody's

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version if they haven't watched this yet, but I just

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found it kind of interesting. Justin goes through the story

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of how they approached in a Bronco in the Sierra Mountains,

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and he grew up in this environment. His father taught

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him hunting and fishing, so he's part of this entire environment,

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and that brings about a different personality to a person altogether.

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When you grow up that way, you know somebody that

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grows up in an urban environment, you grow up in

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that environment, you know everything about it. He grew up

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in this environment. And he stated that they had tags

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for deer and bear, but they were in different areas

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to go and hunt. So they were in a deer

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tag area, and they're often a very remote area, small

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town monsters. Eli brought us into the area. Justin brought

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us to the area where he said this encounter happened

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where he shot a big foot, two of them, to

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be precise. The first thing I took away in watching

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the documentary was he said that Justin is in the

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passenger seat of the Bronco. His friend is driving the Bronco.

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Justin sees this dark image and assumes it's a bear

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in the passenger seat. And what he said, he opened

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the door of the Bronco and got out and put

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aim on the individual. Now Justin stated he shot it

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with a rifle, but Justin got out of the truck

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and on the Small Town Monsters documentary, he's doing a

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bow action. He's like, I've got it in my sight. Well,

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if you're recreating the account with a rifle, why are

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you doing a bow action? Now he is a bowl

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hunter and a rifle hunter, but this is exactly what

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he did.

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Matt.

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I would say to you, well, what happened while I

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drew my gun and you're holding it as you're holding

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my pistol a nine millimeters or whatever, and I shot

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the guy because he was approaching me. I don't understand

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why he used the symbology of drawing a bow and

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arrow when he shot it with a rifle.

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And so I scratched my head and going, eh, that

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doesn't really seem right to me.

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Well, now hold on a second there, because that's okay.

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Before we jump ahead, we get hit some of these points.

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Could it have just been a natural reaction, as he

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does more bow hunting than rifle hunting, you know, Could

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it just be just playing Devil's advocate?

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Because I think one of the thing problems I have

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with the whole dismay of situation is sometimes the evidence

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doesn't add up with the story, right, And so I think,

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is this another one of these situations? Because I have

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to say, if he's made this whole situation up and

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it's a lie, he's a pretty damn good liar.

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No, I totally agree with you. And this is why

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I started this off by saying, I don't know. I

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wasn't there.

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Well, none of us were. And I think but the

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hard part about all this because there is if he

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does take you through the story and he does try

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to provide evidence.

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I mean, right, No, agreed, Bake, absolutely agreed, Baked.

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Did you want to where we jump hold on?

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Van? I think the key points of the story is

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if it is a made up story, he sat down

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with his friend and they worked it out before called anybody,

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because the way he tells us, he tells it as

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closer to hear Mike, I am a deer and bear hunter.

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I understand the So he kills two of them, I believe,

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and he claims why there wasn't a he explained or

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he explained explains why they couldn't get back like he

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had reasonably.

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Did.

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Was he had people that we know experts to back

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up a lot of the he said by knowing this

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is true, then this would happen, Like directly said, oh yeah,

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one hundred percent believe.

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This is plausible.

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The issue I have story isn't the story at all.

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I think it's a good story his friend. It looks

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like it happened. But what I have problems with it

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it's the documentary later pedaling and the way he feels

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about researchers that kind of turned me off.

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That's there. That's a fair statement because I.

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Was like, one hundred percent like, he's got a story

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he under but you could tell that that story was

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prepped like you would prep a witness on the stand, Matt,

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you know, because he had this is where it was at,

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this is where we hunted, this is what we usually like.

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He did the one thing we always asked for. He

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gave us the before, the middle, and the after instead

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of just giving us the five second clip, right, okay,

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And they were prepped. So as far as the story,

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I liked the story, I even believe.

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I love the way it was presented.

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I love how Small Town's Monsters presented it. I loved

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the whole thing. What he didn't like was the ending.

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And if you've seen the video, it's only about forty

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five minutes and if you google it you'll see it.

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It's free.

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Excuse me.

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You will notice near the end he kind of browns

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out and says, you know, some things are really derodatory

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towards well I feel us, you know, but I mean,

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you guys can continue. But I just wanted to put

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that in before two phone no.

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No, and that's completely fair. That's completely fair. Yeah, I

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will go on to my second point. Jesus was when

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this entire event has happened to him, and he said

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he shot what he believed to be an adult male

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and that he shot a juvenile sometime later in the

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same event. He did not have his dog with him,

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but he brought his hunting dog with him to go

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try to recover the juvenile, which he said he buried

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under a bush. Why was not his hunting dog with

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him when they went on this expedition. That didn't make

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sense to me, And there may be a very good explanation,

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I don't know. He just said, yeah, I brought my

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hunting dog out with me because it can sniff out,

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you know, these dead carcass and go pick him out.

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But he didn't have the dog with him during this

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event and then the last point I'm going to make,

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and then I'll leave it up to everybody else to

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make their analogy. He said. One he shot the juvenile,

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he picked it up, he looked at it. The partner

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that he was with, he kind of threw it on

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the ground. The partner saw it. They didn't know what

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to do because they knew the game warden was at

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the end of the trail on their way out. Now,

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generally game trails, as far as those individuals are concerned,

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they will have a dog with them to sniff out

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whether you tagged a deer or a bearer or something else. Okay,

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I understand that. So let's hide the body. We can

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get out of here, and we'll come back and retrieve

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it later when the game warden is not there. So

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he said, they put the juvenile under a bush. He

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physically was showing on the documentary kicking out dirt and

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covering it with large debris and large rocks. Now I

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understand that doctor Meldrum and Randalls went out there to

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investigate this, and on the documentary justin states, well, yeah,

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we covered it with rocks like that one over there,

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which was about maybe ten fifteen feet away. Where did

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all the rocks go? Where did all the large debris

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go that they said they covered the juvenile with? It

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wasn't there. I don't see anybody picking up these big

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rocks and moving them twenty thirty feet away to try

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to find the juvenile body. It wasn't there. So I again,

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I was left scratching my head, going, well, then where

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is all this debris that you said you buried the

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juvenile with. It's not there, So I'm just going to

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leave it a that. I'm not calling the guy any

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of the names that the Internet called him. I wasn't there.

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But like James said, it's a fascinating story because he

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did give very certain descriptions of what happened. That is

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very believable. That when they spotted this thing, it stood up,

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it put its arms up, and he took a shot

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and hit it in its left side, and he said, boom.

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You know, you could see the debris of blood and

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it's coming out, and it was tripping and falling and

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making its way off into the woods and trying to

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make a getaway. And then he discovers two juveniles that

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were chattering with each other that seems to be a

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pretty extreme story to just make up out of the

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top of your head as a bigfoot story to do

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what become financially wealthy? No, without any evidence. No, but

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it's a fascinating story. It truly is. And I'm not

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gonna sit here and put Justin in the BS artist.

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I'm just not going to do that.

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I don't know if he can, because I mean, the

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reality is, well, I am there goes hi am. I

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was gonna let let's hear it, let's go Henry.

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Here is the reason I think his story is well, shit, okay,

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this is the reason it is because it's because when

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they would act to find the quote unquote remains.

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A flash right, yes, m hm.

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Ted did they said it off to catch him?

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Who said, oh, it must be sasquatch, just just ARBITRALI

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out of the blue says it must be sasquatched because

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her a sasquall right, as you just know what the

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hell she's.

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Well was when that sample was set to Brian Sikes

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and read his book The Nature of the Beast, he

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talks all about it. That sample turned out to be

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from a bit. But I think this is what I

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think Justine.

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May I did. I got two bits out of season.

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Bobby thought he'd getting for it and decided to cover

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it up. And then just then and they decided to

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claim that he shot to Sasquatch. That's what I think happened.

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Well, that's a really good point that you bring up, Henry,

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because I didn't bring that up in all this that

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he said, yes, I've got these you know, these flesh samples.

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He sent them off to Randall's, He sent them off

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to Meldrum, and he sent them off to.

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Uh uh.

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Yeah, what's her.

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Right?

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It has got them off, but yet nothing kind of

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seemed to develop from that whatsoever. Well, I'm like, if

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you have this flash sample, something would have come out

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of it. And you know, kudos to Randall's first stating

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what he did. He stated, he didn't know what to

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make of the guy, but he went out there and

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took him seriously. But he didn't know what to make

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of any of this. But nothing turned up out of us.

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And I appreciate and you know, with him working with

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the Olympic project. Give the guys the kudos working on

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the Olympic Project. Every single one of those guys are

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so golden staunch with me personally, in their research, you know,

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with course and boy, let me tell you, these guys

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are in it, and they're in it deep. So if

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they had any kind of evidence, even a strand of evidence,

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I think they would have brought it forward. But nothing

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really came of any of this.

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Well, go ahead, JB.

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So a couple of key points you said earlier, which

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I tried to get in but then it happened. You

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said about the dog, Well, the only reason I had

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a dog the second time was is because Meldrum knew

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a guy locally that had dogs that could sniff out blood,

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and he called a favor and to get the dogs

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00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:31.680
there as far as as far as like the carcass

466
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:34.680
and things like that, there were a lot of inconsistency

467
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:36.440
with that, Like he cut off so much of it.

468
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:39.279
I honestly, if I had time to cut off some parts,

469
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:42.079
I picked a head and brought it with me.

470
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.960
But that's right me, okay, Pat, just cets off heads,

471
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:46.240
just went.

472
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:51.480
You've already committed as we'll go to the whole way. Man,

473
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:54.799
shemy that ship. Wear it on top of your head,

474
00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:56.359
dree days.

475
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:56.720
All right?

476
00:29:57.799 --> 00:29:58.880
You ever watched conn Air?

477
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:00.000
That makes complete sense?

478
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:00.599
Yeah?

479
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:05.279
No, the thing is is one thing he.

480
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:09.640
Points out that I know is true and Forker knows

481
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:13.480
is true. If an animal dies in the woods, even

482
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:17.759
if you cover up within a week, coyotes everything else,

483
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:20.440
that every carnivore in the planet is going to rip

484
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:23.079
a little piece off and drag now as far as

485
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:25.599
the rocks and stuff like that. It the guy said,

486
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:28.519
I dug it. I grabbed as much stuff as I

487
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:32.279
could for fifteen minutes, you know, And he says it,

488
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:34.119
he says he did a shitty job.

489
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:35.279
I mean, he's right about it.

490
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:38.799
But what I would say is the one key that

491
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.240
a lot of his facts roll together. And that's where

492
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.319
I say, I kind of agree that there were a

493
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:46.400
lot of easy facts, But I think we need to

494
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:50.720
remember is his story covered a lot of things that

495
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:53.279
we that we like, Why didn't he have a dog?

496
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:54.640
The second? Why do you have a dog?

497
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:56.920
Sicktom Will? He explained, And like I said, is I

498
00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:59.319
think he tried to legitimize his story by using the

499
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:03.160
Olympic proper but project, by using Meldrum's name, by.

500
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:06.200
Using you know, it's like people train time.

501
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:07.759
It's like it's like people.

502
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.079
Who say Cliff Barrack, so this is right, No, you

503
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:13.519
got a drink with Bartman and he nodded at you

504
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:15.599
the same.

505
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:19.279
Thing, right, acknowledge this agreement.

506
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:23.400
I've been in those meetings and there's you know, but

507
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.519
I think Matt had some things to say, So I'm

508
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:28.880
gonna shut up to the least the whole horn.

509
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:33.119
Go ahead, Matt.

510
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.440
Well, I mean, I don't know how much time we

511
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:39.039
happy for the bullhorn, but I think.

512
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:40.599
What you need, I'll plug it in as soon as

513
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:40.960
your friend.

514
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:47.240
Yeah, So here's where I'm at there. He has been

515
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:52.720
consistent through the years, and I have followed this since

516
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.200
the story. It was came out as rumors on the

517
00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.240
old I think it was the Bigfoot evidence uh uh

518
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:06.440
page that somebody had shot a big foot and they

519
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:13.039
had some part of the carcass available, and through that

520
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:18.000
I pretty much saw the story evolved in real time.

521
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:22.160
And then we got to meet who Justin was. And

522
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.519
there are some parts of the story though that just

523
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:29.319
kind of give me the you know, the red flags

524
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:36.519
pop up. And Henry was really eloquent and saying that

525
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:44.640
he was not out there to hunt in a uh

526
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.000
you know, traditional ethical man.

527
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:51.000
Or yes, yes, so he has he has.

528
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.880
A bear tag. For another part of the another part

529
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:57.160
of the Sierras. He's out there, he sees you know, one,

530
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.839
possibly two bears, and what does he do. He pops

531
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:05.119
the shots off from inside the truck. You know, I mean,

532
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.880
you know, we've been out you know, in the woods

533
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:12.880
and and you know, even in Pennsylvania, you know, people

534
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:17.240
still do that. But I mean, that is like the

535
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:23.519
most unethical way to take an animal, So especially when

536
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:29.319
you don't have attag for that, knowing that the fishing

537
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:33.519
game officer is at the end of that trail pretty

538
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:37.720
much checking everyone coming off that mountain, so he obviously

539
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:41.559
shot at something. The one thing that gets me though,

540
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:46.640
is one that they called it the steak, which was

541
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:50.200
the the part of the carcass that was that was

542
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:54.920
still still there, came back just being bear and as

543
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.559
opposed to being anything else. So did he did he

544
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:02.160
actually poach a bear? And this was just his way

545
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:05.480
of you know, perhaps he's I don't know, you know,

546
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.760
I think he has done a polygraph if I'm not mistaken,

547
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:15.840
and I don't know. It's just the other thing too,

548
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.840
is again, as I saw this play out in real

549
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:22.039
real time, there were people that came back to that

550
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:27.480
to that area general area and One of probably the

551
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:34.760
better thermal images came from Bart Tatino, who was in

552
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:38.679
that particular area where this shot. I believe it was

553
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:43.599
him and wrote Rosa Hobby and they were able to

554
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:50.719
to get three creatures on thermal that were surrounding the campsite.

555
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:54.880
So I don't know, you know, it really really leaves

556
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:59.119
me scratching. If it was to go to court, you know,

557
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:01.920
I think you'd have a hung jury out there.

558
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:04.000
Well, I think the one tell for me and then

559
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:05.760
we're gonna go to the bullhorn and then we'll come back.

560
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.840
Is you know Bart Katino, somebody I've been acquainted with

561
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:14.639
for many years in this research. You know, his take

562
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:18.199
on it is the most important to me because if

563
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:21.119
anybody's good, you know, he's got he's real credential. He's

564
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.039
got a background in financial know which is a world

565
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:26.559
just full of bullshitters and hucksters. And if he can

566
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:29.880
survive that and be able to have integrity, which Bart

567
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.599
does to no end, I think he'd be pretty good

568
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:36.639
at sussing out the bullshit of of of Justin Smaya

569
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.840
And I think the problem is when it becomes bigfoot,

570
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:43.519
it becomes more fantastical, right, and you know, I don't

571
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.239
agree with people calling him a murderer and a killer,

572
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:48.880
and because you know, that's just not I don't know,

573
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:52.239
that's not beneficial or helpful to anything. And he has

574
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.679
taken his beatings. By the way, let's not say it's

575
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:57.800
been easy for justin. I don't want to climb on

576
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:03.960
that and continue it. What my thought is, if this happened,

577
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:09.400
and it's just what a mess just and the fact

578
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:11.559
that's happened in twenty ten is when it happened. You know,

579
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:16.559
we're almost fifteen years now past this easily. Uh you know,

580
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:18.880
where are we at with any of these other samples

581
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:23.199
that have been provided? And so we'll leave on that note.

582
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:26.039
We'll come back folks right after this. You're listening to

583
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:30.519
the Sasquatch Experience. Sean Palker, James Baker, Henry May Vance Arner,

584
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:36.000
Vance Arner, Matt Arner, James Baker. I just threw myself off.

585
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:37.039
We'll see it a couple of minutes.

586
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:42.559
I knew he'd take the man's names.

587
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:50.239
Team a symbol big Foot.

588
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:55.400
Okay, that's fun, your fun.

589
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:01.320
Where are you from Cleveland, Midwest?

590
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:05.639
I thought so because you said bigfood if you were

591
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:08.400
from the Northwest, like myself, you would have said sasquatch.

592
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:16.320
That's the difference. That's really you know, rais no is

593
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:18.360
whether you call him sasquatch or big Food.

594
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:24.519
Do you think he exists? Why?

595
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:26.000
Because it's more fun?

596
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:32.079
Ah, Yes, because it is fun until you get dragged

597
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.480
out of your tent by the ankles and are used

598
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:39.159
as a tree knocker. Then your opinion changes well top

599
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:43.119
of the evening, until you all lids and lasses happy

600
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:46.320
Saint Patrick's day. I don't know why that sounded so Canadian,

601
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:55.000
but anyway, speaking of symbolics from CBS News, Assemblymen Chris Rogers,

602
00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:00.480
Democrat of Santa Rosa, California, authored a legis slate of

603
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:06.639
Bill AB six six six in hopes of making Bigfoot

604
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:10.519
the state cryptid. What's aencryptid. Well, it's an animal being

605
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:13.079
oor entity that has not been proven to exist, but

606
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:17.840
has been reported by eyewitnesses or other sources of evidence.

607
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:22.760
You know, think likeness, monster and abominable snowman shows you

608
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:27.280
the research that this article has. The last recorded spotting

609
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:31.280
of the large, muscular, hairy, ape like looking creature in

610
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:36.119
the state, according to the BFRO, was in Humboldt County, California.

611
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:41.199
In September of twenty twenty four hikers here chatter and

612
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:45.360
whoops of a large animal in Founder's Grove, which is

613
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:50.079
thirty three miles southeast of Eureka. According to the database,

614
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.960
there are forty eight reported sightings in Humboldt dating back

615
00:38:55.119 --> 00:39:00.159
to nineteen fifty seven, where three children have daytime sightings

616
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:05.000
near Eureka, now closer to Los Angeles. Back in nineteen

617
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:09.320
ninety three, a man remembers a sighting while driving on

618
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:13.559
a lonely, dark, two lane road near Gorman. The BFRORO

619
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:18.440
reported fact or fiction the creature does get around. While

620
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:22.239
California lists four hundred and sixty three sightings and Washington

621
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.920
State reports seven hundred and twenty four possible saasquatch sightings

622
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:31.000
according to the BFRO, Beyond the Eureka and I'm doing

623
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.639
air quotes with my fingers motto and the bear flag,

624
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:39.320
the official state symbols are extensive, with the California State

625
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:44.400
Library listing over forty state registered symbols. Denim is the

626
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:48.840
state's official fabric, the sabertooth cat is the official state fossil,

627
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:52.840
and the state rock is serpentine. And this is just

628
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:56.280
to name a few of the lesser knowns. So could

629
00:39:56.360 --> 00:40:00.159
Bigfoot become the state's official cryptid. It takes forty one

630
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.400
votes in the California State Assembly before it comes law.

631
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:08.400
When we come back, it's time to pitch a tent.

632
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:14.239
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651
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652
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653
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listening to this edition of the Bigfoot Bullhorn right here

657
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on the Sasquatch Experience, and as a half eaten bag

658
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:31.800
of potato chips always says, until we meet again, keep

659
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:32.599
your toe.

660
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:33.119
In the mind.

661
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:43.280
I don't know all about that, but uh all right,

662
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:47.880
Welcome back folks, Sasquatch Experience for Monday night, Saint Patrick's Day.

663
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:49.280
And if you're done with this you can go get

664
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:51.719
your drinking go on, though it's the workday tomorrow, so

665
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:55.639
don't drink too much. Welcome back, folks. We're having a

666
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:59.760
spirited discussion tonight about shooting Bigfoot. Did it or didn't happen.

667
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:04.039
Let's see, and also Vance, thank you for plugging that event,

668
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:07.840
the PA Bigfoot Camping weekend. Matt and I will be

669
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.480
speaking and JB will be there, so he'll probably be

670
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:13.400
speaking too, because Baker always gets roped in, but he

671
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.599
never gets billed, so we always have to say that

672
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:19.400
he never gets but he always gets it roped in.

673
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:21.880
Yeah, got a free lunch or something.

674
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.960
I don't think you know. Somebody did make mention of

675
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:28.920
a polygraph test, but Scott made a really good point. Scott,

676
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:32.920
our good friend, you know our Patreon and AVAD listener.

677
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:36.559
A polygraph test doesn't show if you're telling the truth

678
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:40.079
or not. It just indicates that you believe what you're saying.

679
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:43.719
There's an interesting take on right, gentlemen. As we as

680
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.639
we left, I was just talking about our friend Bart Katino,

681
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:50.480
and you know my belief in Bart. Where are you

682
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:52.519
guys at with with some of the other you know,

683
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.000
you mentioned the Olympic project. Guys, what do you think

684
00:43:55.039 --> 00:44:00.599
some of our steam peers that they're bought him?

685
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:02.760
Well, I mean they have the right to their opinion.

686
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:06.679
They have the right to believe whatever they want. I

687
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:08.480
have the right to believe what I want. Hey, this

688
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:10.880
is America. We all have the right to believe whatever

689
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:11.360
we want.

690
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:15.840
You're just that guide, right, you're just not buying America.

691
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:20.079
Long it doesn't hurt somebody ill, right, you know.

692
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:24.960
I give the kudos to the fact that doctor Meldrum

693
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:33.199
participated in the investigation along with Randalls. He engaged in

694
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:39.760
this investigation because it was that compelling for them to

695
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:47.800
do this and to completely unearth every bit of molecule

696
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:51.840
and evidence that they could find in the area to

697
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.880
try to prove this as a real point. And they

698
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:58.480
were being completely honest of what their opinion was of

699
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:04.599
just in himself. You know, Randall stated, yeah, you know,

700
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:08.639
he saw him as a redneck, and but he didn't

701
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:14.239
he did not just wipe that off the page to say, ah,

702
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:18.280
this guy's full of you know bs. He took him

703
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:21.280
at his word, and they looked for every bit of

704
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:24.920
evidence that they could possibly find, and of course, you know,

705
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:29.159
it ended up that none of them discovered anything or

706
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:35.039
uncovered anything that was attributed to Yeah, this could have

707
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:39.360
possibly have happened, But it doesn't seem that Meldrum has

708
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:43.239
been out there talking about this, right, he's not. It

709
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:44.719
just don't go ahead James.

710
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.599
It just seemed to me like he pulled some favors

711
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:49.920
to help the guy out in the Olympic project, and

712
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:53.199
he pulled some favors because he knew people in that area.

713
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:55.800
Be as if if me and Sean saw some in

714
00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:59.559
Pennsylvania and Meldrum knew a guy and we we were

715
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:00.599
like with him.

716
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:03.920
But I think Meldrium has been there right.

717
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:08.719
Right, But it didn't it didn't seem like I remember

718
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:14.760
at OBC there was a situation where people broughtcasts to

719
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:16.039
multiple groups.

720
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:16.800
I want groups.

721
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:18.320
I'm not pointing to somebody specific.

722
00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:23.039
Multiple groups broughtcasts to Meldrum and he looked them over

723
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:25.039
and he goes, these are really nice look at some

724
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:28.480
of these high points. But he never said this must

725
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:31.840
be a bigfoot. He just he just pointed out evidence

726
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:34.840
that pointed that way. But then when they left the table,

727
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.960
it was like he completely believed my sightings and.

728
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:39.599
Blah blah blah.

729
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:43.159
Likely from the back of notch what he said was

730
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:49.119
what you had had promise. You know, there's a difference

731
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:51.840
between first base and coming home.

732
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:56.559
Okay, all right, Henry, did you want to add to that,

733
00:46:56.599 --> 00:46:58.320
because it sounds like you were agreeing with Baker there

734
00:46:58.320 --> 00:46:58.800
a little bit.

735
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:04.760
No, Yeah, I was basically agreeing with James Baker because

736
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:09.800
just because Meldrum may maybe give you a.

737
00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:17.840
Little bit of kind of uram encouragement, doesn't me believe you.

738
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:17.679
Right right.

739
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:25.960
Saying Stripper's loving you, well, I don't know appreciate, but

740
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:27.719
go there.

741
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.400
So so not to But this was like the perfect segue.

742
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:34.760
You're talking about Stripper.

743
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:38.559
So he have I do we have? All? This show

744
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:39.599
is getting interesting.

745
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:43.639
It is not in that respective, but but we have

746
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:47.920
justin who who came out? What did he get out

747
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:53.039
of him doing this? Out of him, you know, recounting

748
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:57.039
his story with uh, you know, with having all these

749
00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:01.639
people come in. He really, I mean it really kind

750
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:06.559
of hurt his his his life, you know, right because

751
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.920
he was under a microscope. But the one thing is

752
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:14.920
is he was never after money, you know, I mean,

753
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:18.199
you know, he he wasn't going around you know, uh

754
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:21.159
doing anything like uh. And of course you know I'm

755
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:23.400
thinking of right around that same time too, is Rick

756
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:28.000
Dyer in his hoaxes where hey, I shot a big foot,

757
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.280
you know, and it was eating ribs behind San Antonio's costco.

758
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:37.079
You know, I mean, you know, here's the guy who

759
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:41.039
who believe you know, he believes that what, you know,

760
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:44.960
what had happened that day, even if it put him

761
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:51.039
into uh, you know, possibly some legal issues, but he

762
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:54.599
stood by that story. And you know, again, you have

763
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:57.239
other people that that will go out there and try

764
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:00.000
to monetize that he didn't at all.

765
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:04.159
Right, No, I agree with you, Matt, because he made

766
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:08.239
that very clear in the documentary that he did with

767
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:13.159
Eli Watson. He said, I didn't get into this to

768
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:17.639
make money off of it or become wealthy. I didn't.

769
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:22.920
I'm just sharing an experience that I had. Okay, I'm

770
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:27.920
good with that. But then I look at Henry's perspective

771
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:31.039
of all of this, and I'm like, yeah, I can

772
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:39.239
agree with that too, And so I'm still completely divided

773
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:45.159
on what has happened here. I just can't make sense

774
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:49.159
of either side because I agree with what Henry has

775
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:52.880
to say, and I agree with what I brought forth

776
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:57.159
as there's a couple of issues here that don't make

777
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.360
sense to me. But then when he says it, well,

778
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:06.880
I didn't do this to make money, I'm just kind

779
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:09.719
of left speechless on that whole point. But that's what

780
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:11.599
makes the sole subject interesting.

781
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:19.480
I know it, go ahead, guys, And I was gonna say,

782
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:22.239
like I said, he put he put all this out.

783
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:27.039
You know, he knows now if he's going to try

784
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:31.039
to draw a tag, you know, you know, he's gonna

785
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:34.639
have a California fishing game all over him, you know,

786
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:38.840
probably for the next twenty years, right to make sure

787
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.000
that that everything's on on tom It is probably not

788
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:43.840
gonna be able to shoot out, you know, out the

789
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:47.360
car window anymore, but probably not the best thing to do.

790
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:53.000
But again, you know, like I said, this impacted his

791
00:50:53.119 --> 00:51:00.400
life detrimentally, you know, coming out. Even again, when it

792
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:04.360
initially hit the uh, hit the internet, it was an

793
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:08.800
unidentified person. It wasn't anything. Uh, they didn't initially say

794
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:12.280
his name. And then he team up then and said, okay,

795
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:15.039
this is you know, this is justin you know, he's

796
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:17.679
the one that did this, and you know, and it

797
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:18.360
went from there.

798
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:21.599
Well, even his friend kind of backed away with it

799
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:25.480
as quickly as possible. Their stories did sync up. But

800
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:28.199
then again, like I said, if the conversation was happening

801
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.000
at a table where they said, you know this is

802
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.280
what you say, is that I say blah blah blah.

803
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:35.480
But you know, I just there's a lot to the

804
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:40.400
story that made sense from a perspective of like he

805
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:42.440
he was a hunter and you knew that because there

806
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:45.679
were certain parts of the conversation that made sense, like, hey,

807
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:47.639
I hit a body, and when I came back three

808
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:52.119
weeks after a blizzard, there was nothing left which could

809
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:55.639
have happened, because when it's cold, animals will find warm.

810
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:56.559
Food, you know.

811
00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:59.760
Like, so, I mean, it's not it's not unrealistic on

812
00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:03.079
what he said. It's just that some of the and

813
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:05.480
some of the things like, yes, maybe he did kill

814
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:09.039
two bears, but I don't know if I believe that

815
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:11.840
as much, because then why would he make a point

816
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:13.960
of a story I had just hit him in the

817
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:15.880
woods and hope nobody noticed.

818
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:20.800
Well, maybe he did. He have any priors for poaching

819
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:26.320
or any other past experience or running with rangers. We

820
00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:29.360
don't know that, right, and that could be the impetus

821
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:33.039
for him to want to create a cover story or

822
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:37.119
something interesting to get people to not believe him, because

823
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.159
perhaps he was involved in something he shouldn't have been

824
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:43.239
doing and he's done it in the past. That's just a theory.

825
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:45.480
There's no proof of that. I'm not saying that's what

826
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.599
happened at all, Just a set of facts which could

827
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:51.440
set of opinions that could meet the fact.

828
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:57.159
If I'm playing on and killing people on a blank trail,

829
00:52:57.400 --> 00:52:59.400
trail stop.

830
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:04.039
It, okay, Yeah, and now I'm an accomplist. I'm going

831
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:08.599
to jail. I'll be in prison tomorrow. Oh good.

832
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:12.719
Dance is worth about twenty packs smokes.

833
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:16.320
So look at this.

834
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:19.400
Look at this like it was going to be presented

835
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:24.320
in court. So we don't have a body. We have

836
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:27.679
no evidence that there that there was a body to

837
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:34.039
begin with. Just just just a bare steak we have.

838
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:39.239
And again, you know, even at that point, uh, grab

839
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:45.480
a hair, grab grab a finger, you know, but you

840
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:50.440
have nothing there. Uh you have you know, you have

841
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:54.239
a statement, uh stating that the person was doing you know,

842
00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:55.559
an illegal activity.

843
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:56.400
Uh.

844
00:53:56.559 --> 00:54:02.559
You have the friend who does back up the story.

845
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:07.920
But you know he hasn't gone on as far as

846
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:09.559
I know, he hasn't done the polity enough.

847
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:12.199
Anymore, or he doesn't go on the record with it either.

848
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:16.199
Correct, right, correct, So if you were if you were

849
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:18.960
looking at this, and James bringing up brings up a

850
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:21.719
great point. If we're not talking about a big foot,

851
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:26.159
we're talking about Hey, he uh, he saw a hiker

852
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:29.719
in the woods and he thought it was a bear

853
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:32.559
and he decided to pop a shot off, and oh

854
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:37.119
my god, the hiker died. If we can't find a body,

855
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:42.559
and there's no evidence that that there was harm that day,

856
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.519
and you know, and then lastly, of course, you know,

857
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:47.599
if it's a hiker, you're gonna you know, the person

858
00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:51.079
be reported missing. Okay, that might be one thing, but

859
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:54.679
but just say that that nobody's reported missing. You know

860
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:57.400
what do you have at that point? A jury's gonna

861
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:00.880
sit there and say, I don't out you know, I

862
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:01.880
don't think this guy.

863
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:04.239
Did it well, not even could you even press charges

864
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:04.920
without a body?

865
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:09.400
No, very true, we've done that before. Somebody fed the

866
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:10.360
body to the pigs.

867
00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:15.199
So well, you had some sort of circumstantial evidence with this,

868
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:18.639
there's nothing besides that steak, right, and with the steak

869
00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:22.920
that has been tested as bear. You know, you would

870
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:25.079
you get a da to be able to say, yeah,

871
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:26.840
you know what, let's charge him for murder. He had

872
00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:29.159
a bear steak, you coaching him.

873
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:32.760
You could get a grand Jerry to convict on a

874
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:34.199
hand sandwich. Trust.

875
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:37.360
Well, yeah, that's point bake you.

876
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:41.760
Somebody some of these counties, it's just you and the

877
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:46.639
judge and they both know each other hood the Dolly

878
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:47.280
Parton song.

879
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:47.679
You know.

880
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:52.119
He watches a lot of TV. Folks, he's well read.

881
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:54.599
Do you know what I had I had the thought

882
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:59.119
too while watching the documentary. If it was a juvenile

883
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:05.440
that they shot, or that he shot, why didn't he

884
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:11.440
bag it? Because he made one simple point. There was

885
00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:15.559
a game warden at the end of the trail that

886
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:19.440
had a dog. So if he were to have bagged

887
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.719
the juvenile and put it in the back of the

888
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:30.039
truck and the dog detected it, I think all things

889
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:34.119
would have been off the tangent right there. I think

890
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:38.880
everything would have come loose. And maybe that's why he

891
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:43.639
panicked and left it there under a bush. But I

892
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:47.039
think I would have taken the chance and wrapped it

893
00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:50.159
up and put it in the truck and said, hey, yeah,

894
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:53.280
we didn't get anything, have a great day, we're out

895
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:56.760
of here. At least have that evidence with you.

896
00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:01.320
I don't know, maybe he didn't have good past experiences

897
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:03.559
with the Rangers.

898
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.440
No, that's very possible. That's very possible.

899
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:11.760
What do you want, Oh, go ahead, James, Well, if.

900
00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:12.960
You watched the movie.

901
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.800
But one thing he points out is he didn't take

902
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:20.800
any evidence with him because he was worried that that

903
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.880
there were He kept saying about special forces and people

904
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:26.800
that were trained to screw him over, and he was

905
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:29.599
a little paranoid when it came back ops. But the

906
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:33.000
other reason was is he said something that clicks to

907
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:36.679
my head now. Well, probably because he got caught doing

908
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:41.199
stuff before. Whatever. I can't I can't say hey or whatever.

909
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:43.840
You know, stuff on the internet stays on the internet.

910
00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:44.199
Whatever.

911
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:48.039
Okay, but here's the thing he said. It's a male

912
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:51.920
and two juveniles. They were talking amongst themselves. He killed

913
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:54.599
two out of three. So the question is is when

914
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:57.119
he killed them and kind of buried their bodies in

915
00:57:57.199 --> 00:57:58.000
fifteen minutes.

916
00:57:58.079 --> 00:57:59.840
I'm sorry of ruining the plot.

917
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:04.400
But the thing is is you have a sosquatch that

918
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:09.360
supposedly still exists, and then where's mom? So how do

919
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:13.320
you know that whatever it was that survived in that

920
00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:16.360
area didn't drag those bodies off to somewhere else?

921
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:20.079
Very true, Very true.

922
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:23.599
I understand why he didn't take as much evidence, even

923
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:26.079
though I would have said screw it. He even mentioned

924
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:27.840
I should have took pictures. I should have done.

925
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:28.599
I could have done.

926
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.519
All these things, but I got home this popped into

927
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:32.360
my brain and.

928
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:34.800
The moment I was just freaking out and digging a hole.

929
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:38.239
We listen, we all had that moment.

930
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:40.880
Yeah, I would have been kind of freaked out too

931
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:44.079
and probably have not thought of those things either.

932
00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:47.000
Right, so I read legitimate.

933
00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:49.800
I want to add one one last point, well actually

934
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:52.119
two last points, because I know we're running close to

935
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.960
the time. But the one is if he fired that

936
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:58.559
shot inside that inside that Fort Bronco, For one thing,

937
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:04.760
when uh powder explodes, Uh, you're gonna have not just

938
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:09.280
the spent black powder all over the place, but you're

939
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:13.280
also gonna have that odor uh inside that inside the

940
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:17.519
cabinet of that that Ford Bronco. It's gonna smell like

941
00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:21.639
somebody fired a shot. Which that's gonna raise the eraised

942
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:26.119
the eyebrows of the of the game officer down down

943
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:28.960
at the bottom of the mountain, because he's gonna be like, Okay,

944
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:32.400
who was who was in here shooting right from this

945
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:37.119
because he would be able to smell that. The other

946
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:40.360
thing too, And just a side thought here, we were

947
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talking about the if they had a dog down there

948
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at the bottom of the mountain. They had a Yetti

949
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:51.000
cooler airproof. Yeah, and and you know what, you could

950
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You could put whatever you want in there and and

951
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:56.000
a grizzly bear can't even sniff it. So hopefully we

952
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:57.960
can get Yetti as a as a new sponsor.

953
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:02.960
Wow. Yeah, and that's the part that I did miss Matt. Now,

954
01:00:03.239 --> 01:00:08.039
what I would say his specific words was he got

955
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:12.679
out of the Ford Bronco and took aim at this

956
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:17.079
bean and fired the shot. Even though he was doing

957
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:22.239
the bow and arrow insinuation. He said, he did get

958
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:26.079
out of the vehicle and took the shot. But you're

959
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:29.800
right about the the Yetti. I never gave that a

960
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:33.679
consideration that, Yeah, you could put something in there, and

961
01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:36.800
I don't think anything would be able to pick up

962
01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:39.719
a center from that. That's a good point.

963
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:45.599
We do firearms training for with the vehicles, and even

964
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:49.800
if you're outside the vehicle and you take a shot inside,

965
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:52.280
the inside still still has that odor.

966
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:54.639
I thought you were that's interesting.

967
01:00:54.679 --> 01:01:01.920
Firearm training and accidents, folks.

968
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:05.440
Yeah, there's nothing finer than the smell of gunpowder. I'll

969
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:06.159
let me tell you.

970
01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:11.199
And that'll be the final quote for tonight. We're now

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over time and we're going to call it for tonight.

972
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:17.800
Great show tonight, guys, You've all had some strong opinions

973
01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:20.480
on this and I'm glad that we brought it to

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01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:23.119
the to the forefront, and folks, go check it out

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01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:25.920
The Man Who The Man Who Killed Bigfoot on Small

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01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:29.119
Town Monsters right now on YouTube. Check it out. Eli

977
01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:32.079
Watson put together a great episode. You can go ahead

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join our Patreon for as little as two dollars a month.

979
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:38.679
We're going to be a lot of stuff getting loaded

980
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:41.360
on that shortly and we just have a whole bunch

981
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:43.000
of stuff going on as we get ready for our

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01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:46.480
biggest event of the year, the Ohio Bigfoot Conference at

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01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:52.480
Salt Fork State Park and Cambridge, Ohio. We appreciate you

984
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:54.760
all tuning in the night. Thank you, and two weeks

985
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:59.719
we'll be back with Chuck Lawson from the CARC. Going

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01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:01.880
to be a great episode and talking to our friend

987
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:05.320
Chuck and Henry. You got those closing words for us,

988
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:08.800
my friend, Indeed I do. Y'all be good. It'll be

989
01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:12.079
good there. Keep on squatching, folks. Good night.

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