Feb. 6, 2025

EP 119: Bizarre Bigfoot III

EP 119: Bizarre Bigfoot III

Forker and Crew sit down (and try) to talk about Bigfoot and Orbs, which devolves into the conversation around Bizarre Bigfoot activity.

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Forker and Crew sit down (and try) to talk about Bigfoot and Orbs, which devolves into the conversation around Bizarre Bigfoot activity.

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The views and opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch

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Experience do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the host, sponsors,

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or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. As always, listener discretion

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is advised.

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We got someone or something growing around out here?

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Does a legend walk among us working in the forests

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of our world?

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Did you see what it was?

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Was it a person or an animal?

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Or I can't go. Oh, I know if my thunder

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light came on and I heard happened to glim see

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the thing running across the yard, a good fight man

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or something works like a man. I don't know what

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it was.

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For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators,

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and witnesses trying to gain insight and truth around the

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existence this mysterious entity.

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Jesus quite che Hello, get somebody out here.

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What's going to announce?

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There's got a mention about six foot nine? I don't

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know eas he announced there? Yeah, I'm working right out. Oh, okay,

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hand on her? Yeah, got you're bigger?

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Okay, what's he doing in your yard?

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We're gonna do.

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Join us as we continue into the investigation, of the

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Sasquatch Experience, and.

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Good evening everyone, Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience for Monday,

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February third, two thousand twenty five. If you can believe

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we're already in February, it's like January just disappeared on us.

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And forever.

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But I don't know if it took forever though, fans.

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It's like we blinked our eyes and it was gone.

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As we're you.

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Know, already for the through the first month of the year.

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And of course I think the next thing we have

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in our minds is the Ohio Bigfoot Conference, so we've

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got that come out that so far knock on wooter

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wood like substances. We're all going to be in attendance

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at OBC this year, which is a pretty spectacular thing.

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That is rare. I want a.

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Self written contract from Matt that he's going to be there.

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I will be there, Yeah, I will.

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Yes.

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He wants it in blood. I want it written in blood.

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He wants it in man. We got a good audience

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with us tonight. Of course, broadcasting across X, across YouTube, Facebook,

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you name it, We're going to be on it, guys.

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And what a great show we have tonight going back

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into the weird, bizarre, Bigfoot, the orbs. And I know

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we've we've danced around this topic for some time because

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and I don't want to speak for anybody else, but

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we're all We're four different individuals. We all have different

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beliefs on what this is. Some of us aren't afraid

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to dabble into the paranormal. Some of us, like me,

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aren't really great at playing around in the paranormal. But

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we're going to talk about it tonight because as much

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as anybody would like to dismiss the facts, these things

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are still being observed.

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Together. These phenomenas are.

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Happening yep together And before before I continue to fillibuster

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vance Matt, what do you guys think on this subject?

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Going right?

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Oh boy, I have a little bit to contribute regarding

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at least the orbs portion of this. Remember when we

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were little kids and you'd blow bubbles, or Mom or

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Dad would blow bubbles James from a Yeah, okay, cool

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of James, stop them. But you know we would have

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this fascination of running around and catching them. But there

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is some interesting research that I've done personally of other

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scientific researchers.

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So you've done research on blowing things.

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Stop it man, there go this way?

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Why why did you can't train left the station?

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It did?

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But there is scientific research in biology, and clearly the

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term of this is playing on a sense of words.

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And it's called wood wide web, okay, like the world

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Wide Web, only wood wide web.

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And what it actually is it's a.

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Fungus called my corrazol and it creates a network in

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forests between the roots because when you're in a forest, all.

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The roots inner tangle with each.

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Other and this lets trees know and exchanging information of

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nutrients and water and stress. But with that amount of

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energy between the trees and the forest, and I know.

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This sounds very much like a woo thing.

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It does, but maybe there's some something to it that

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takes energy with that amount of communication between the trees

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and a forest. And we're talking in a dense forest

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where all roots are intertwined with each other, and there's

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this communication network that creates energy. And I'm wondering if

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that energy releases itself kind of like we do after

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we eat a taco and you know, taco bell and

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let the energy lose. You know, I'm just saying if

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that energy lets itself loose. It might be something similar

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to an orb under intelligent control because plant life itself. Look,

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there's a number, and I'm trying to fit so much

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in in a short period of time.

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Here. There is such a large number of plant.

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Life that mimics mammal life, birds and insects. There are

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plants that simulate themselves to look like a hummingbird to

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attract hummingbirds. There's plants that are you know, the pot

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plants that imitate themselves as a watering bowl to draw

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mammals and small creatures into it and they cannot escape,

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and they trap that as a food source. Being as

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fly traped, it produces a nectar to attract flies and

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other for it to eat. How did the plants know this?

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There's no brain cells. So there's something bigger and more

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miraculous going on here. And so it's possible that maybe

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these forests produce these energy orbs and maybe a bigfoot

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is attracted to it.

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And I'll leave it at that.

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Okay, so I get to go next.

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I'm sorry, I haven't you So you're talking anywhere from

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avatar to the happening? Okay, So like plants can talk

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to each other and they could make us commit suicide

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or they give us a lot of brains. All right,

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That you make a lot of keen points, that plants

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do kind of communicate, and that I think nature in

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general has a frequency. My my thing is is like

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for every time somebody says this thing isn't possible, and

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then five seconds later they go, but I believe in Bigfoot,

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You've got to step.

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Back a notch and go. Wait.

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If you can believe in a large, hairy creature, you

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can let an orb happen, you know what I mean.

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So I think I think you make some valid points,

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but I.

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Think we have to recognize the fact that that the

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supernatural and the animal kingdom. If you can believe in Bigfoot,

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then you can believe in the potential of a magical unicorn.

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You just have to listen. You just have to make

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sure there's enough science behind it, and clearly in that small.

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Little stivet Okay, you put in so much science and

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then Henry, you don't care if it air because that

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coughs ound like you shoved it through the wall.

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I'm glad. I'm glad.

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I thought we're gonna have to pick up some of

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your brain they're off the floor. Glad you're better, Henry. Again, though,

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we take it from the position that this is it's supernatural,

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the orb in itself, and you know, vance you try

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to come up with a rational explanation for it. But

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then you also talk about and something I read earlier

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today doing some prep for the show, and maybe I

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understood it right, maybe I did not exactly the world's

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greatest brain here, But plasma has a tendency to follow

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electromagnetic fields.

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Mm hmm.

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So what if it's just.

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Following whatever's emanating from these creatures, so that it's just

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generating more energy for it through however it's it's picking

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it up from the.

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Bigfoot.

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It's not that it's generated or created by this thing.

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It just happens to be localized.

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And right right right, And I could I tend to

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agree with that as well, Sewan, because these are still

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all unanswered questions. But looking at it in a scientific perspective.

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That makes sense.

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I mean, when you talk about just a strike of lightning,

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you're separating negative and positive ions from each other, and

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it creates an electrical charge and you get a bolt

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of lightning that within itself is a phenomenon that is

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absolutely mind blowing and considering the fact to this very day,

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you know, we're talking February third, twenty twenty five, and

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science still cannot identify what gravity is. There is no

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definition to what gravity is. We all experience it, but

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there is no explanation of gravity. So there's still so

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many questions to be answered. And that's why I brought up,

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you know, the fungus network within the trees. Maybe they're

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releasing some sort of an energy. Once it builds up

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that it becomes as orb and releases and under some

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sort of intelligent design. What it seems like. It seems

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like intelligent design. I believe I've witnessed this. I'm not

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sure that's what it was, but I did witness some

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really strange things. And I know Alex Petakov, he witnessed

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this all soul and so along with Sean or with

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Seth breed Love, they all witnessed this. This is a

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strange phenomena. We haven't grasped around it yet. But what

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is the tie between that and a big foot encounter?

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So it is.

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Bigfoot attracted to this the same way we were as

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children to snowflakes and bubbles, and other simple things that

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we were really attracted to and we would chase after.

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So here's one thing for you. And I was just

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happy to think about this sitting here. I'm a big

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Star Trek fan, and one of the things that people

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hated about one of the newer shows, Star Trek Discovery,

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was that the ship use what they called the my

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celial network ability to transverse space and apparently dimensions using

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a high created by fungus. So it uses the spores

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to generate almost a portal to go from one point

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A to point B.

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To propel the ship of the ship.

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Right, So we talk about bigfoot exiting portals, and they're

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seen exiting coming in and out of portals. I've not

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seen when people talk about it. You said something about

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the fungus of their advance. What if there is the

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potentiality of something real like a myceelial network, that these

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things can traverse and open portals.

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And go in and out.

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What does it have to be super science and why

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can't it be natural science?

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All right?

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I guess that's kind of the angle that I was

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trying to attack that from, was that it may be

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just a simple, undiscovered science that we haven't unfolded and

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opened the book on yet because we're not that far

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as far as our technology or our research. But it

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could be something very simple like that, Sean, It could

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be something very simple like that. You're talking about a

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spore that can grow in a forest and people go

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out and grows to pick. You know these mushrooms and

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there's a variety of mushrooms.

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Well, where did they come from?

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They're not a seed, it's a spore, right, and if

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this fungus which has been proven to connect a network

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within the forest, between the roots of all trees, and

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it has. I've watched these videos. It's absolutely fascinating. It's

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a steel probe about a foot and a half long

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that's driven into the ground in a forest, which is

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actually a hyper sensitive microphone, and you can listen to

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the energy feeds between these trees and it's musical. It's

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not things that you hear that you like want to

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pull your headphones off. It's a musical interlude of information.

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What that information is, we don't know, but we're listening

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to it and it's absolutely fascinating.

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Matt Henry, anything you guys like to chime in here

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about these interesting things were postulating here tonight.

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Well, I have something to share. I actually had experience

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back in twenty ten where I was outside. I was

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actually I was actually calling for sasquatch doing, you know,

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was it cob blasting?

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Okay?

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And I saw this. I saw this was December of

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twenty ten. I saw this light up in the sky

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was straight to cross and it wasn't I thought. I

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thought at first it was fireworks, but I realized there

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was no sound to it. So what it was I

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don't know, mm hmm, because it had been the orb

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or something in the sky. I really can't say for

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sure what color was it, but it was kind of

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a whitish color, maybe a bluish white.

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Really interesting.

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You know, a lot of orbs have that description of

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a brilliant white blue or a white color. What I've

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seen was more of a reddish color, and so I

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don't know what to make of that. But it's interesting

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that you mentioned that, Henry, because a lot of witnesses

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that see these orbs refer them to almost a white

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but a light blue color.

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So there is some scientific fact that goes behind orbs

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that some of its particles in the air and the

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light hits right, and things like.

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That, or or a light source was present and then

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a tree like a limb moves or something like that,

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and then it becomes visible. I sent you guys that

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kind of link that explained some natural versions of orbs,

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and some of it is.

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Is like from working with cellular technology and some of

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the technologies we worked with it the store is it

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all matters to what the locations around you, to what

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kind of waves and beams will work, because like if

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I'm near a building with aluminum siding, I will have

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more cellular service, but I will also if the light

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hits it right.

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There will be orbs in the tree.

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Also, it also affects your own eyes that you start

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to see those little squiggly things in your eye and

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that you know you and in some cases your brain

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can't one hundred percent coalesce what it is, but you

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use the rest of your brain, the artistic side of

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your brain, to fill it in. Kind of like when

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you ever see one of those shows where somebody looks

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at a shadow on the wall and I see a.

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Demon, mats, he's an angel, you see whatever, But none

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of those are there.

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It's just a blob, okay, But our brain fills it

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in so that we can comprehend it, you know.

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So then what is the correlation between what we're talking

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about with these orbs and a bigfoot? Is it a

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curiosity thing or is one having to do with the other.

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Well, that's the age old question, isn't it now? And

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I think to get into that, you know, we have

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to talk about some of the situations where these things

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have been.

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Encountered.

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And the first thing I think about, and you gentlemen

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probably understand what I'm what I'm going to say is

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from the Small Town Monsters.

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Documentary.

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I think it was Chestnut Ridge down in Pennsylvania, down

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in the southwestern part of Pennsylvania, where they were observed

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carrying these orbs of light.

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Right, But what are they?

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I I don't know, and I'm going to try to

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find the actual account and bring it up here. But

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you know, are they some technology they use to activate

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a portal? Are they something to use to transport themselves?

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There's been instances where these things have been shot and

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they've exploded into.

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Light.

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Right, That's also happened in southwest Pennsylvania. Either the Bigfoot

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in southwest Pennsylvania really eating these mushrooms vans and they've

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they've not that that my my celial magic or people

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down here in the southwest Pennsylvania are really enjoying those mushrooms. Now,

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I can tell you that I was out with Rick

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Chirby his wife Eric Altman, down on the Chestnut Ridge

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and while we were out, Adam Cox, a good friend

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of ours.

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While we were out.

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She had filmed some orbs flowing floating around the tops

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of the trees and they were non localized light phenomenally,

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there was nothing making these lights. They were self illuminating

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and they were dancing among the trees like free floating,

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and it was one of the damnedest things I've seen.

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I'm trying to find the video on my phone. I

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might be able to share it on the shelf I

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can find you. But it was just a hell of

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a scenario because I happened to be there for it.

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And then if you just take that one step further

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and you just take away orbs and talk about just

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strange light phenomena that in itself is a whole other category, Like, right,

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there's something going on.

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With either an attractant that.

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These creatures are just a breeding ground for this kind

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of light phenomena. There's something that's coincidental and not exactly.

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You know, they're coinciding, but they're not one and the same.

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Or these things have the ability to generate some you know,

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something we can't explain, something we don't know.

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You know, there's a fascinating article that was written by

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the late great Linda Godfried and her.

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And I forget the gentleman's first name.

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His last name is Hemple, and it's in her book

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and I have to go over to my bookshelf here.

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But they had an encounter with one of these orbs,

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and they sat in their car and they watched this thing.

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And this was in southern Wisconsin. They sat in their

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car and they observed this orb moving about what she

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described in an intelligent way. Now I can understand how

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people would come up with intelligent way, you know, moving

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left to the right, up and down. And Hempel grabbed

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his mag light that was in his car, and he

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shined his light on it, and it immediately disappeared, and

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it got within very close proximity of their vehicle in

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which they were driving it. Because they were actually doing

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research for the dog Man at the time, they didn't

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go out to look for these orbs. They were looking

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for evidence of the dog man, and this happened and

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he shines his you know, mag light on it and

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it just disappeared, and it freaked.

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Her out being unbelief.

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But yeah, it's in her book with all the details.

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I find that a fascinating story. Again, is this just

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an energy released or is this under intelligent design? I

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know that's the million dollar question. But again let's draw

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that back to what does that have an correlation with Bigfoot?

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Is it a curiosity with Bigfoot the same way it

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is with us and we want to figure out what

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it is or is it something that has a relationship with.

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Anybody want to tackle that?

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Well, well, you think about you think about the highest

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strangeness from western Pennsylvania, especially back around nineteen seventy three

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to nineteen seventy four, right right about. You think about

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exactly exactly all the Bigfoot slash UFO reports that came

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out of the area. People were seeing all kinds of

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weird stuff. They were seeing oars, they were seeing bigfoot,

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they were seeing Bigfoot carrying these weird objects, these glowing object.

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Well, Henry, I have an example of that that you're

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talking about right now, And this was from September twenty seventh,

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nineteen seventy three, at about nine thirty in Beaver County,

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two girls saw a white humanoid covered in white fur

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and had glowing red eyes and appeared to be holding

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a glowing, large luminum spear in its hands and was

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about eight feet tall. After seeing the figure, the girls

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bolted back into the house and their father went out

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into the woods in an attempt to track down the creature.

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He was gone for over an hour, and when he returned,

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he refused to talk about what he had seen. At

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the same time he was in the woods, several nearby

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people claimed to see a silvery object hovering over the

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forest and at one point it admitted a beam down

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into the woods. And that was reported by Stan Gordon

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nineteen seventy four at a uphah on Ufo symposium. So

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you talk about Henry that time period. I just wanted

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to put that out there because you mentioned that time

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there was a perfect example of that.

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Ye.

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Stan Gordon in his book Silent Invasion has a bunch

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of examples.

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Yes it does, and it's a great.

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Book, and Stan doesn't mind getting a little weird with it.

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Matt yeah.

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I mean there's so much I could talk about with

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the orbs. So because I actually saw someone with my

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own eyes during a Bigfoot investigation and people were having

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experiences down the mountain, a little further down the mountain

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and I'm looking at this thing. I said, what the

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heck is this? It looked like somebody with a bright

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flashlight that through the woods. This was in Columbia County, Pennsylvania,

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and I had no idea what it was. But I

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do have some theories about about the whole you know,

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issues with orbs and Bigfoot, But there's other times too

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that people have seen, whether it's swamp gas, whether it's

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ball lightning. You know, there's other unnatural lights that come through,

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such as the lights that they have. I believe that's

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down in Tennessee or North Carolina with the mountain brown

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mountain lights. Yes, the brown mountain lights. So you do

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have different life phenomenas. One story it's it's a ghost story,

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but there's actually not that far from Williamsport. There's a

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mountain where there was a plane crash, killed the killed

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the doctor who was the who was the pilot, And

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people claim that if they go up there at night

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they see an orb uh in the area where the

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plane the plane had crashed. That's how they figure when

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they if they followed the orb, they end up finding,

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you know, where there's a small little uh plaque to

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commemorate uh the instant. So uh So there's all different

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explanations for the orbs. But I I am one person

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that I don't think that there's that much of a

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connection between Bigfoot and the orbs other than it's something

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that they're attracted to, and it may be something that

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it may be more common in the woods than we're

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aware of, right, and for someone that's out in the

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woods all the time, they're gonna see this as something

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that you know, is potentially harmless, isn't going to and

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it may you know, uh give them something to do.

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It may be like us watching TV, you know, or

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or or doing some sort of activity. They're going to

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chase this thing because a lot of times these are

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happening out in the middle of nowhere. So as that's

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going on again, I think that's a big attract. And

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the other thing too is, uh, you know, you get

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people that camp out in the middle of nowhere and

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they have a fire going and or they had their

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flashlights going. And if they're out in and air.

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Man, yeah get back.

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I was sitting there just just disconnected. I don't know

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where it cut off, but I was gonna say for campers.

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Flashlights and camp and campfires.

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Yes, yes, So if somebody's out in an area, maybe

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out west where they're there hasn't uh, maybe they just

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opened the area in the spring or early summer, and

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that's when people have encounters. Maybe you know, they're drawn

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to the to the light thinking that there works.

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Well, you know, you make a valid point.

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The one point is is like we've had these discussions

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multiple times about how we change the environment, and it's

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odd that there are more sightings once that happens. Well,

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most animals, if something changes in an envit environment, prey

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animals will hide, but like predator animals and stuff like that,

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will investigate what it is because it may either be

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a new food source or maybe something they need to.

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Avoid, you know.

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And I think that that from what the science that

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I've gathered, the of the Sasquatch or even the aliens

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or the orbs or whatever it is, they all seem

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to want to know and control their environment. Otherwise they

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wouldn't be as good at hiding as they were.

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You know, absolutely, Yep, we do have to take our

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brick here. Guys, it is nine thirty folks. Stick around.

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We'll be back right after. This Bigfoot bullhorn brought to

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you by Vince Nezbig Stay Tuned.

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News Team a symbol.

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I have a fear of flying now I never had

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a fear of it. It's not straight across the board flying.

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I don't like small planes all of a sudden, I

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just don't like it. It has nothing to do with the plane.

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I believe in the planes, Okay, I just don't believe

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in the pilots because you know what, I don't think

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00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:05.200
the airline does either, which is why that dude is

472
00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:06.960
flying that little plane.

473
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:08.200
Ah.

474
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:13.599
Yes, parachutes for everyone you know. Coming from this aviator,

475
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:19.559
I can assure you that airline travel and aircraft travel

476
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:26.680
is still the safest mode of transportation, including walking. You know,

477
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:29.680
I don't always roll a joint, but when I do,

478
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.960
it's usually my ankle. Well, happy Monday night to you all.

479
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.319
And as I had a conversation with Sean earlier, being

480
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:42.759
that it's February, we're still officially in the frightened turtle

481
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:46.640
season and for you ladies, the headlights are on. But

482
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:52.400
we're not here to talk about frightened turtles. But Klix

483
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:55.640
News Radio I will give you the information and watch

484
00:31:55.680 --> 00:32:01.440
a video after you're done listening to the Sasquatch exsh

485
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:06.319
It's interesting. Finally, bigfoot lover's rejoice. We finally have our

486
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:11.039
first major bigfoot sighting of twenty twenty five. And let

487
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:14.799
us start by saying it's a frightening one. The bigfoot

488
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:19.440
sighting in Idaho, which I always thought was pronounced Ohio.

489
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:23.359
Our side of the country is a prime location for

490
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:27.319
bigfoot to wander. Just think about it. There are so

491
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:31.519
many places to hide, and you get four seasons, and

492
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:34.359
as far as we know, there is plenty of things

493
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.960
in the area to eat. Speaking of that, is bigfoot

494
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:41.400
hunting small or big game for food? And does it

495
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:45.279
dumpster dive? I know we've all had that question. Now

496
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:49.400
putting those opinions aside, an ATV writer caught some shocking

497
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:53.839
footage while on an unnamed trail in Idaho. The video

498
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:58.880
was picked up by the YouTube channel other Worldly News.

499
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.759
You can go ahead and write that down other Worldly

500
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:06.000
News on YouTube and trust us when we say it

501
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:11.680
does look other worldly. Now, as the ATV rider rides

502
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:16.240
along a trail through the Idaho outdoors, well of course

503
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:20.599
outdoors and to many indoor trails, we suddenly see a

504
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.920
massive dark figure crossing the trail. And when we say

505
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.039
the humanoid is dark, you can make the case that

506
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:32.640
this being was a shadow figure, a paranormal entity made

507
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:36.720
up of pure darkness. Also, when you do see the video,

508
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:41.960
pay attention to the movements, particularly the arms. It almost

509
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.480
appears ape light and lines up with every myth and

510
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:50.160
legend we've heard about Bigfoot. The encounter frightened the ATV

511
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:55.160
riders so much that they turned around without any hesitation.

512
00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:59.079
So let us know what you think of this video

513
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:04.000
when we come back. Well, let's warm up those frightened

514
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:09.519
turtles and turn off those headlights and go down to Florida.

515
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:12.960
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516
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530
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:39.840
let's head on down to Florida. Well why you ask, well,

531
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:44.679
because the Great Florida Bigfoot Conference. It is an annual

532
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:50.119
event happening in Ocalla, Florida, at the World Equestrian Center.

533
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:54.679
The twenty twenty five event will take place on Saturday,

534
00:35:55.119 --> 00:36:00.800
April fifth. For further information regarding speakers and vendors will

535
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:08.800
be available at bigfootfl dot com. Again Bigfoot fl dot com.

536
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:14.440
The address for this fun event is seventeen fifty Northwest

537
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:21.519
eightieth Avenue in Oakalla, Florida. Thanks again for listening to

538
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:25.159
this edition of the Bigfoot Bullhorn. Right here on the

539
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:29.559
sasquatch experience and as the twig and berries always say,

540
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:33.000
to your underwear before you wash them until we meet again,

541
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:33.800
keep your.

542
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:34.840
Toe in the mind mind.

543
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:50.880
Thanks Vance for that, lovely, lovely, so appreciate.

544
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:52.079
That's the way to wrap it up, lovely.

545
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.920
Yeah, well you keep us engaged and that's the thing

546
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:57.920
that matters the most.

547
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:02.320
I try man.

548
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:02.840
There we go.

549
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:06.840
First part of the show talked about orbs strange light phenomena.

550
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.079
As we start to wind into the you know, the

551
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:12.559
thing we have to understand we want the listeners to

552
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.079
understand is, you know, one we're not making any claims

553
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:18.679
one way or the other about this being a legitimate

554
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:20.440
part of the research. All we know is that it's

555
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:26.440
observed together. Right, These phenomena are seene. We gave you

556
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:32.719
one example there with We gave us one example from

557
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:38.360
Stan Gordon with those girls in eighty three and there we.

558
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:40.239
Go with the ums and Oz again. Sorry guys.

559
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.400
Back in eighty three and Beaver County and I'm trying

560
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:48.599
to pull up some more. Henry may joined some more

561
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:53.159
examples of that. But as we go through, you know

562
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:56.280
a lot of people have written about this. Ronnie LeBlanc

563
00:37:56.519 --> 00:38:03.960
from formerly on expedition Bigfoot in his book Monster Land

564
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:09.119
discussed the kind of paranormal aspects of Bigfoot very freely,

565
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.400
and Ronnie, you know, makes no, he's not bashful about

566
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:17.000
the fact that he does feel there's a connection to him.

567
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:19.519
Stan Gordon will tell everyone that.

568
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:21.920
He lets the evidence speak for itself and you make

569
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.280
your own determination. But I think Stan heavily infers that

570
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:26.039
there's a connection.

571
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:27.679
Right.

572
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:34.079
But when we think that the connection between UFO's Bigfoot

573
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:40.400
these paranormal phenomena, you know, what if it's anything but paranormal?

574
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.320
What if there's a natural explanation for And That's where

575
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:48.320
I'm stuck, that we can explain it. So we attribute

576
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:52.760
these what we consider paranormal, which is really I don't know,

577
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:57.039
that's a fallacy, right, like, because we can explain it

578
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:00.639
and it's not what we perceive to be within the

579
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:04.440
realm of normal. It is by definition paranormal. But does

580
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:09.159
that have to mean otherworldly or other realmly or non corporeal?

581
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:16.760
You know, what's the definition and what's the what's the

582
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:21.920
creation of this, I guess nomenclature?

583
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.400
Why does it have to be anything that's just not natural?

584
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:25.239
Right?

585
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:28.880
That was very wordy sorry.

586
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:29.280
No, that's okay.

587
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:32.800
You know there was, and forgive me because now that

588
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:38.079
we're going down this vein of the conversation. I don't

589
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:41.119
remember a lot of names. I believe it was the

590
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:48.480
Scientific Research Team NIDS maybe that went to Skinwalker and

591
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:52.360
there were two of the researchers that saw this large

592
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:58.199
ORB at Skinwalker and they described it as opening up

593
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.199
and seeing one of these creatures step out of this

594
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:08.000
light orb and then went off into the wilderness. This

595
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:13.320
was their testimony, and they tried to capture so much

596
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.880
of this, you know, on video capture and all the

597
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:20.159
sensitive equipment that they had at the time. And I

598
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:24.000
believe this goes back to probably the late nineties, so

599
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:28.119
technology is not as advanced then as it is today.

600
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:31.599
But this is what they witnessed, and this is what

601
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:35.519
they described that they see this orb, they're watching it

602
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.760
and it seemed like it had opened up to a

603
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:43.639
darker hole and then seeing a large bipedal creature step

604
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:44.039
out of.

605
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:45.639
It and walk off it.

606
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:52.159
Maybe that was just it, yeah, kind of But you know,

607
00:40:53.199 --> 00:41:00.639
was this part of a and totally enhanced propaganda to

608
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.280
bring more interest to the subject, or was this something

609
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:06.159
that actually happened.

610
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:11.679
You know who knows you're talking about the National Institute

611
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:12.679
of Discovery Science.

612
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.159
Yes, yes, that's right.

613
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:18.800
Isn't it, Henry? I see him shaking his head there,

614
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.880
so that must be. We had to consult the oracle

615
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.280
that not nads baker nids.

616
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:33.239
So they found so they found orbs near the neads.

617
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:38.840
All right, well listen, now we've had and he went

618
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:39.719
down to that vein.

619
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:43.239
Oh boy, we had to go there, didn't we.

620
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:44.599
We had we had.

621
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.880
We had Dwayne Pintoff on the show in a while back,

622
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:54.880
and he was out with Eric Altman, and Dwayne also

623
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:58.400
experienced what he thought he saw a.

624
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.639
Doorway open up in the woods, is what I believe.

625
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:05.440
He described it.

626
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:16.679
As a doorway, right, And again, these situations are observed,

627
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:27.280
they're experienced, as much as I may not feel that

628
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:32.719
they are connected to our favorite subject matter. Here doesn't

629
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:39.400
mean one doesn't mean I'm right, But two, it doesn't

630
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:43.440
mean it's not worthy of notation. And so we're in

631
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:48.440
the situation now where I think we have to notate everything,

632
00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:54.199
no matter how bizarre or extreme it may be. When

633
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:58.960
we ignore it, we aren't asking for the scientific credibility

634
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:04.079
behind it. Because we're going ahead and we're ignoring evidence

635
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.719
that's in front of us because it doesn't fit within.

636
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:10.320
Our bias in the narrative, right, right, and so.

637
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:13.920
We're how often have we done that in the past, though,

638
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:18.719
Like if we haven't had those blinders up and right,

639
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.960
because it doesn't fit within what our idea of Bigfoot

640
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:34.320
is or comfortable too, we ignore it? And how detrimental

641
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.199
has that been? Like have we put ourselves behind because

642
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:37.480
of that?

643
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:38.400
Right?

644
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:43.039
You know, I brought up a point a long time ago,

645
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:49.159
and it might have been with you, Sean. Let's say aliens,

646
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:56.840
the gray aliens or Bigfoot and humans and other alien entities.

647
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:03.519
All the physical features seem to resemble a similarity. So

648
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.920
you have a head, two eyes, nose, mouth, mounted on

649
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:12.519
a neck, on the shoulders, with two arms and two legs,

650
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:16.519
walks bipedally. That's how we see the grays, that's how

651
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:19.360
we see aliens, that's how we see Bigfoot, and that's

652
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:23.760
how we see ourselves. Is that the most perfect design

653
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:28.079
for an intelligent species throughout the universe?

654
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:30.039
We don't know.

655
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:32.920
And I only bring that up because that is the

656
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.639
only common link that all these things share with each other,

657
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:41.199
is that the autonomy is similar.

658
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:46.400
But and I would let Matt finish this thought. But

659
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:48.039
the fact is is that a lot.

660
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:51.440
Of times, and Matt probably knows from investigations, is your

661
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:55.400
mind fills into what you know to make to be

662
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:57.920
able to see something. Same like Sean made a point

663
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:02.119
earlier about how we miss things and we're really on

664
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:03.280
to treat every.

665
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:04.400
Sighting as a crime scene.

666
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:06.760
But I'll let Matt finish that thought because he probably

667
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:08.440
has a little more information.

668
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:13.679
On it, you know, yeah, I mean, you know, we

669
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.400
could sit there and you can have somebody that says

670
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:20.960
that they saw, you know, a saucer come in, they

671
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:25.559
saw these objects come out, and again, you know, it's

672
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:30.400
just like the paradolia where we're going to our minds

673
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:37.079
are automatically going to humanize what we see. They're going

674
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:38.920
to put those human attributes to it.

675
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:41.119
And so.

676
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:47.239
You know, that's what people are getting in saying, okay,

677
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:51.920
this thing had you know, four fingers like we have fingers,

678
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.719
it had, you know, as you said, and neck a

679
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.639
thor act or a body you know, and go from

680
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:04.400
there or you know, in all actuality, we don't know

681
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:06.039
what they might be saying, you know.

682
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.760
And a touchback on advance, you know, when you said,

683
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.559
is this anatomy? You know, that's that seems to be

684
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:18.719
the commonality that we share these basic attributes, you know,

685
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:20.960
two arms, two legs, a torso.

686
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:25.159
Ahead, do we though?

687
00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:29.840
Or is that just the influence of Star Trek and

688
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:35.599
Star Wars and all that other science fiction that's creeped

689
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:39.119
into our lives and over the years, because if you

690
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:43.079
talk to scientists, sometimes will tell you that, you know,

691
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.079
that just doesn't make sense for some species of extraterrestrials

692
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:49.639
based upon the type of environment they live in. But

693
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.639
then again you go into things like, you know, we've

694
00:46:53.639 --> 00:47:02.760
talked about shape shifters and are they non biologics or

695
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:09.480
are they just a different biological, biologically evolved species than

696
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:13.360
us that occupy the same planet. We don't know. It's

697
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.440
it's weird. It's weird as hell. This show is getting

698
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:18.280
into the weird tonight.

699
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:24.440
That's okay, okay, question right now.

700
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:27.679
You go into skinned walkers, you go into different creatures

701
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:28.639
reported through.

702
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:29.440
Different myth and.

703
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:35.400
It does make you wonder there are you know, portions

704
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:37.840
of this, you know, even the Bigfoot mystery. You know,

705
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:42.199
folks like to make you know, comparisons to the you know,

706
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:45.119
Wen Diego and what have you, which is not a Bigfoot.

707
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:48.360
It's something completely different. I think that's more of a

708
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:54.719
spiritual entity than Bigfoot. But you know, again, there are

709
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.239
people that think bigfoots a spiritual entity and that.

710
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:02.880
But does this not go back back to how many people,

711
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:08.679
whether they're not researchers or they are researchers, you take

712
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:15.440
both categories, and they have an experience with a bipedal creature,

713
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:19.599
but they've also had an experience with these strange lights,

714
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:24.599
these orbs moving throughout the forest. It's happened a number

715
00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:27.880
of times. You'll have people that have had a bigfoot

716
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:31.960
encounter and it takes them, you know, five years to

717
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.800
get out into the woods again to figure out what

718
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.360
it is that they saw, and now they're seeing these

719
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.079
light orbs in the same area in which they had

720
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:46.719
this encounter. Clearly there's something going on that's very strange,

721
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:52.079
and it's happened numerous times. It has happened numerous times

722
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:56.159
where you're gonna go out there, You're going to try

723
00:48:56.199 --> 00:49:01.679
to record and find this mysterious being that we don't

724
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:05.159
know a whole lot about, and then these light orbs

725
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:08.079
show up and it's like, well, that took us off

726
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:12.079
in a completely different direction. What are these things doing

727
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:17.199
and where do they come from?

728
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:20.000
But if they've always been there and now you're tuned

729
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.519
to see them, do you know what I mean? Like,

730
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.480
I know plenty of people that once they've seen something,

731
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:31.199
everything has a purpose when before it was just something minor,

732
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:35.480
you know. And I'm not dissuading what they see or

733
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.440
whatever it is. But like like you said, is somebody

734
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:39.920
goes out in the woods, ain't been out.

735
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:40.800
There in five years.

736
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:43.280
They're a little twitchy as it is, and everything they

737
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:44.639
see is like, oh, what was that?

738
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:45.280
What was this?

739
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:45.920
You know?

740
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:47.440
Like technically, if you look.

741
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:50.360
Behind my head, that's the light for my turtle.

742
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:55.960
But somebody could say there's an orb there. Yeah, yeah, gebo,

743
00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:57.480
you know keeps.

744
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:00.360
I bet the turtles think it's their son. God, you know,

745
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.679
I mean all perspective.

746
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:03.239
Right, you know.

747
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.119
Now, And that's understandable.

748
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:12.119
I think a lot of the excitement of seeing something

749
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:16.440
like this is very tangible. Like I said, I have,

750
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.920
you know a couple of times in my life have seen.

751
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.920
Stuff I can't explain what it was.

752
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:28.079
And it moved in a way I should say they

753
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:30.719
moved in a way because there was a number of

754
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:38.559
them that just seemed not human, certainly not human ability

755
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:42.039
to travel the speeds in which they did and travel

756
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.559
the heights in which they did. And I stood there,

757
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.840
completely stunned, going what am I looking at? I have

758
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:51.400
no idea. I don't think that that was something that

759
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:56.719
was created by you know, fish birds. No, I don't,

760
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:01.119
because when you're looking at it, unexpect I mean, this

761
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:05.920
happened without any intent of wanting to see something. This

762
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:08.800
was going out to go have a cigarette and the

763
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:11.679
next thing you know, I'm watching this stuff and I'm like,

764
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:13.480
what is that?

765
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:15.360
So?

766
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:21.559
And you can't rule out things like misidentification and that excitement,

767
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:25.559
but not misidentification of the creature. What if it's misidentification

768
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:30.280
of an object, right, misidentification of something else associated with it?

769
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:34.119
As we start talking about these things being seen reported

770
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:38.679
carrying balls of light or what have you, what if

771
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:41.280
it's a reflector of some sort it happened to pick

772
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:45.119
up or even self illuminating. What if the damn thing

773
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:48.800
picked up someone's lantern. I mean, things we just don't know,

774
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:53.280
maybe don't think about as possibilities. Now it's a stretch.

775
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:56.599
I give you that it's probably a major stretch. But

776
00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:59.519
think about these things. You know, you've heard over the

777
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:05.880
years of sasquatch, you know, having that cloaking ability. Right,

778
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:08.719
What if it's not cloaking at all, and it's just

779
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.320
how the sun's hitting the hairs on the bigfoot variety.

780
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:14.280
You know, Matt, we've talked about that ad nauseum in

781
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:18.320
the past, about the you know way light bends and

782
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:22.199
is manipulated more easily than we've ever thought it was before.

783
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:26.840
You know, could that explain some of the other phenomena

784
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:29.320
we see? And then the mind puts things together and

785
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:31.920
then all of a sudden we observe something we really

786
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.480
didn't observe. The mind just as Baker said earlier, filled

787
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:40.519
in the blanks, right, these things are real potentials and

788
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:44.400
we can't rule them out. I got a copy of

789
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:47.159
Astonishing Encounters right here by Stan Gordon, right in front

790
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:48.480
of me, and I was just running through it real

791
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:52.360
quick for some reference. While we were talking, we had

792
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:55.159
the big Foot bullhoard going on, and there was a

793
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:57.960
story on page twenty nine of the book called out

794
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:03.320
of Focus Bigfoot in Cambria, accounting at about three point

795
00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:06.159
fifteen in the morning on June twenty fourth, nineteen ninety five.

796
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:08.599
The witness, Joe and a friend, were driving west on

797
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:11.599
Route four twenty two and had just passed the town

798
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:13.960
of Revloc, which is a sister sitting in the town

799
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:17.320
of Culvert. Joe noticed in the distance, about a quarter

800
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:19.880
of a mile away, on a straight stretch, that something,

801
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:22.360
what he thought at first was a deer, was in

802
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:25.320
the center of the road. As it approached closer, he

803
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:28.480
saw an animal that looked tall, was covered with dark

804
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:31.679
brown hair, and stood on two legs in the middle

805
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:34.480
of the road. Joe and his friend were familiar with

806
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:37.079
bear and during his life, Joe had seen a number

807
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:40.079
of bear, both in daylight as well as night, and

808
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:43.159
realized this creature was not a bear or anything he

809
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:46.519
was familiar with. Joe approached the creature to the vehicles

810
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:48.679
about fifty feet away from it. Fifty feet is not

811
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:52.880
that far. The creature, which was about seven feet tall,

812
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:56.840
stood erect, was covered with dark brown hair, had long arms,

813
00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:00.000
and looked away about four hundred pounds. Joe told me

814
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:02.360
that whatever this thing was, it was tall, with a

815
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:06.320
small waist and had broad shoulders. As the two men watched,

816
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:08.880
the huge, hairy creature turned sideways and took a few

817
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:11.480
long strides and walked from the center of Roote four

818
00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:15.360
twenty two west from the right to left. It continued

819
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:17.320
to move off the road and proceeded up a small

820
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:21.519
embankment and into a wooded area. Joe said that as

821
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:24.480
soon as his passenger saw the hairy biped he yelled

822
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:28.519
out loud, dark brown, tall, wide chest, two legs as

823
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:31.639
he started describing it. But Joe also mentioned that there

824
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:34.000
was an odd detail that was observed as the creature

825
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:37.239
went up the side of the hill. Joe stated that

826
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.840
the chest area of the animal was wide and deep,

827
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:42.599
but the lower half of the body appeared to be

828
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:47.360
slightly out of focus. That out of phased appearance followed

829
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:50.440
the creature as it walked. The witness stressed that it

830
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:52.719
was not fog and that it was his clear night

831
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:56.159
at the time of the observation. Joe pulled his truck

832
00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:58.840
over as the creature moved into the woods. He tried

833
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:01.800
to position the truck to sh his headlights towards the area,

834
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.920
but was not successful. He shut off the truck engine

835
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.400
and rolled down his window, but noticed no sound or smell.

836
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.000
Joe admitted at that point that both of the men

837
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:13.039
were scared. They sat there a couple of minutes before

838
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:16.920
a couple of minutes, but nothing further had happened.

839
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:18.840
So it was a very interesting scenarios.

840
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:21.360
We're talking about the lower half of that body being

841
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:24.400
out of phase, right, we talk about how light bends

842
00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:27.559
and white light effects, and you know there again you

843
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:32.119
have headlights shining and illuminating. It just kind of caught

844
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:33.920
me attention there as we were talking about some of this.

845
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:38.360
Is that exactly orbes but still weird phenomena.

846
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:43.400
Right, And I still I don't know if you're on

847
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:48.079
the same page with me. Sean to start my investigation.

848
00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:51.519
And when they say start the investigation, it's been started,

849
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:56.239
but I'm it started on the flesh and blood.

850
00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:59.039
I'm not going to go to the WU and I'm

851
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:04.119
not going to go to this you know, other dimensional,

852
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.440
not to say that it's not, but I want to

853
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:11.719
start in one spot and research it until the point

854
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:16.880
is completely exhausted before I move on to something to say, yeah,

855
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:17.920
this is paranormal.

856
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.679
No, And I think that's a fair position. Vance I

857
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:25.840
spent my whole life in this camp of flesh and blood,

858
00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:31.039
because that's what I truly believe this to be. However,

859
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:37.159
that does not negate the potential for some unexplained phenomena

860
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:41.559
be attached to it, or that it has capabilities that

861
00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:44.119
we don't know because we haven't been able to see

862
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:48.079
that in other creatures. Right, does this thing have an intelligence?

863
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:49.519
I don't know.

864
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:52.360
I think it does a really good job of hiding.

865
00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:56.800
But there's that that's a different type of intelligence. You know,

866
00:56:56.840 --> 00:57:00.519
there's a self preservation. But what if and here we

867
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:03.039
go with those what IFFs? This is a lot more

868
00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:06.039
intelligent than we give it credit for. Right, I don't

869
00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:10.119
think it is, because anytime I think we've observed one,

870
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:13.719
that's been an O shit moment for a Sasquatch as

871
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:17.360
much as it's been for us. You're not sticking around

872
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:20.400
and trying to make themselves known. Normally, when they've noticed

873
00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:23.320
they've been observed, they try to get the hell out

874
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:26.119
of dodge themselves. Now that's not always the case, but

875
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:30.519
in most situations they retreat. There are some more aggressive

876
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:35.599
encounters that we have, but most of the time they

877
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:36.960
like to stay out of sight.

878
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:40.679
Yeah, so I would stay out of sight, you know,

879
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:45.679
from humans too, right, you know, you're look, there are

880
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:49.719
creatures of the wild that understand what hunting is, they

881
00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:51.400
understand what the boomstick is.

882
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:54.639
Good, damn right, they'll stay away from that. And they

883
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:57.360
see a human. Now we're out. We're done.

884
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:00.920
We are the most dangerous species he's on this planet.

885
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:03.679
We're out. We're going to move along. I don't care

886
00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:07.679
how big I am. You have some tool that can

887
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.480
take me out, and I don't want no part of it.

888
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:13.159
So I'm just going to move along. And if you

889
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:17.039
shoot your pants, sorry for the language because you saw me.

890
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:19.239
Oh well, too bad for you. But I'm moving on.

891
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:22.559
But I think that's.

892
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:27.039
Also perspective though, because if you look at I was

893
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:30.719
watching a Western the other day and I watched, I watched, well,

894
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:35.800
I can use Indian. Why not he shot four guys

895
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:38.679
from a distance as well as you could ever see

896
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:39.320
a sniper.

897
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:40.800
And I know it's a movie.

898
00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:45.360
But the fact is that supposedly the Native Americans saw

899
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:49.360
these things a lot more than we did, had more general,

900
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:53.320
genuine interactions with them. I think it's got to come

901
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:57.159
down to intent. It's sort of like when the color

902
00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:03.280
like when we tamed the West, the natural people and the.

903
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:04.480
Animals and everything else.

904
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:06.320
Are like, oh yeah, white Man's here. We need to

905
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:10.280
move because they're nothing. But they're going to spend more

906
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:12.960
of them, and they're going to take what we got,

907
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:17.559
you know, compared to like the Native American you know,

908
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:19.599
was like, oh yeah, that's Bob.

909
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:22.960
He lives over there. He fishes like we do. I

910
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:26.039
terminate my cave. You know, we're good.

911
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:29.760
I think intent has an idea of why a creature

912
00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:32.639
would hide, and I've always said the two things.

913
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:34.400
It's either non existent.

914
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:38.840
Or it's it's extremely intelligent, because if it's not smarter

915
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:40.800
than the average animal, then we would hit it with

916
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:44.760
the truck by now, you know, just as the way

917
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:45.280
I drive.

918
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:51.079
Well, Henri, did you want to add anything else here

919
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:56.519
before we wrap it up? No, that's it all right, folks.

920
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:58.159
We got to end it for tonight, but we'll bring

921
00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:01.800
this back on another program. Next show. On the seventeenth,

922
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:05.280
we have Steve Coles coming on. He's gonna be talking

923
01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:09.559
about his new book, which I'm gonna I get a

924
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:13.519
preview for today. I'm gonna give that a watch and see, uh,

925
01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:16.599
give it a watch, give it a read, because rely,

926
01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:22.639
my senses aren't altogether. It's called Bigfoot, a Scientific Examination.

927
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:25.880
New book coming out in March by Steve Coles. We're

928
01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:27.760
going to have him on in two weeks to talk

929
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:29.719
about it. And of course it's been a long time

930
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:35.000
since we've had the old Squatch detective here on Sasquatch Experience.

931
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:38.840
And Henry, go ahead and give us those dulcic tones.

932
01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:45.760
Be good at it.

933
01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:50.320
There it is, folks. Thank you, We'll see you next time.

934
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:52.559
Keep on Squatch.

935
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:03.239
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01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:06.559
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