Oct. 31, 2024

EP 114: Heather Moser

EP 114: Heather Moser

https://www.smalltownmonsters.coms research guru Heather Moser stops by to share her experiences and motivations. 

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Season 10
Small Town Monster's research guru Heather Moser stops by to share her experiences and motivations.

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The views and opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch

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Experience do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the host, sponsors,

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or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. As always, listener discretion

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is advised.

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We got someone or something crawling around out here?

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Does a legend walk among us working in the forests

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of our world?

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Did you see what it was? Was it a person

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or an animal?

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Or I can't go? Oh, I know as if my

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thunder light came on and I heard happened to glen

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and see this thing running across the yard A good

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fight man or something works like a man. I don't

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know what it was.

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For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators,

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and witnesses trying to gain insight and truth around the

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existence of this mysterious entity.

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Jesus quite ar, Hello, get somebody out here.

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What's going to announce there?

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I thought of amits about six foot nine?

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I don't know?

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Easy announced there? Yeah, I'm working right ry Oh, okay,

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hand on her, Yeah, got it's big?

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Okay, what's he doing in your yard?

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We're going to.

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Join us as we continue into the investigation of the

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Sasquatch Experience. And good evening, everybody, Welcome to the Sasquatch

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Experience for Monday, October twenty eighth, twenty twenty four. It's

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almost well, it is the end of October. It's not

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the almost end of October. It's here, and which means

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we're getting close to the end of the year twenty

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twenty four. And that's frightening because this year has gone

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incredibly fast. And if you noticed, we are sparse and

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hosts tonight, but we make up for it with quality

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of guests. And our guest tonight is someone I'm a

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huge fan of and she's one of the greatest people

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I know, probably one of the most talented researchers I know.

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And I don't use researchers as in just boots on

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the ground. I mean I can give Heather a task

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or a subject and in days I'll probably be the

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most knowledgeable person on that subject. I kid you not, folks.

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It's a talent and she's amazing, and it's Heather Moser

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of course, probably from small Town Monsters fame, but you know,

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she's the host of the lore. You know. Now, I

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also believe jumping on Monster Opolis, Yes, which is pretty cool,

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one of my favorite podcasts to tune into. Now back

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from Hiatus. So, Heather Man, thanks for joining us tonight.

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I was really tickled you agreed to come on. Not

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been on our show before, so we're just glad you're here.

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Yeah, thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.

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And of course you've been nice to have us on.

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We'll have me on The Lord, you know. And it's

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always great to kind of cross pollinate these programs and

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get them out to the masses, because this is what

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it's all about, information and entertainment. I don't think you

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can have one without the other anymore. Small Town Monsters,

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I think is a great example of that. And Matt,

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I would be remiss if I didn't also acknowledge you,

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you handsome man up there in the corner.

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Thank you very much. Thank you so and I am

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super excited to talk to Heather tonight. On the one thing,

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and I'll just kind of go through my little knowledge

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on her background is she has always been obviously our

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our go to person, Sean if you needed information, if

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you need a Lord, you need a history. But again

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you brought up that this is the end of October.

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We're coming up on Halloween, and Heather is not just

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you know, known in the crypto world, but also the

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paranormal world. So hopefully we can get some get some

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good paranormal information from her as well tonight.

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So we'll take it wherever the conversation goes, my friend, really,

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So that's where it's at, Heather. You know, we everybody

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always wants to know the genesis of how people get involved.

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I want to know how you got started in this,

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but I want to know also how you've honed this

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amazing research ability that you have.

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Well, I have been researching significantly since college. Actually I

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learned a lot of the tools that I have going

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to different databases and whatnot while I was in college

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during my undergrad and graduate work, and that was something

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that I missed doing a lot, was that really deep research,

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like going to the libraries and opening up the books

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or getting into archives online and things like that. So

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whenever I heard about small town Monsters, then that had

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my attention. Minerva Monster did of course, because I grew

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up next to Minerva, and I mean, word gets around

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when they're making a documentary about next to your hometown.

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So I started paying attention to Small Town Monsters from

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the beginning, and after a while I told Seth, hey,

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you know, if you want a researcher, I'd be willing

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to help you because I really missed doing that. I

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had already graduated and just missed that deep research and

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then to research stuff that's super fun, like the paranormal,

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because that started I started with the Bell, which that's

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what the bridge was there to get involved with STM.

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But between paranormal encryptids, I mean, there's not much more

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fun out there to look into as far as that goes.

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Right now, Before you joined Small Town Monsters, you did

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do paranormal investigating, correct, were you weren't a novice in

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this field?

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Yeah? Yeah, I had been investigating and actually one of

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the first I guess not the first thing, but one

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of the early on projects that we had was a

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short lived thing called on the Trail of Hauntings that

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I got to host, So that was a little foray

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into paranormal. But yes, I had been investigating and doing

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research into that, and it's something that I've been interested

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in since I was little. I mean just just a

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kid watching unsolved mysteries growing up and hearing stories from

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my mom about growing up in a haunted house, and

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it's just something that's always been there.

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It's amazing to see how that's kind of synonymous with

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a lot of us in the field unsolved mysteries, Right,

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Robert Stack, I don't know if I ever thought i'd

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be doing a podcast at some point in my life,

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you know about unexplained phenomena and sasquatch. But the one

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thing that always disappointed me is I never smoked enough

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cigarettes to get that voice like Robert Stack, which is

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okay because I don't have the health issues he had either,

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but correct. You know, it's just funny how many of

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us were started by things like unsolved mysteries because when

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we were younger, we didn't have small town monsters. We

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didn't have a lot of information out there like we

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do today. And I stress that because this generation of

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researchers really has the world at its fingertips and this

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massive amount of information that didn't exist. And Heather, you're

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part of that creation of that that information that folks have,

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which is a pretty awesome thing to think about. You know,

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we we've and you know the fact that I think

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that you you being a female investigator makes it even

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more special because up until recently we've had a few

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over the years, but you know, you're kind of trend

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setting and becoming a role model and and you know,

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an inspiration for a new generation of younger investigators.

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That's awesome. That's exciting to think about. I don't think

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about that often, but yeah, that's wow because I'm thinking

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of you know, you messaging me about Joan Jeffers, researching

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into her, and you know, she didn't get the recognition

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that she should have had all so it was interesting

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to look into some of the work that she had

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done and the people that she'd worked alongside that we

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do know today, and her name should be out there

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as well, so.

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I know, right no, and you know, and again, folks,

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what we're referencing is there was a lady investigara named

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Joon Jeffers, who's probably not probably is a very unsung

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part of the UFO kind of Bigfoot phenomena in the

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late sixties early seventies, a contemporary of Stan Gordon and

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doctor Paul Johnson and other folks, and she worked with

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a wide array of individuals, but she's often overlooked in

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today's literature and I always had a soft spot for

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Joan because I and Heather Coday, because I hit a wall,

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so I tagged Heather in. I said, I got this problem.

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There's this lady that deserves to be recognized for the

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work she's done, and I can't find anything about her.

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And I swear for the longest time, Heather, I thought

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I made this woman up. I really did. And her

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name was Joan Jeffers and she was from Bradford, pennsylvani

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But again, she had some experiences that kind of led

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her into researching this phenomena. And she's I don't know

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if it's by choice or if it's just by ego.

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Has was kind of doctor Paul's the only one that

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really acknowledges her contributions.

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And it's very slight. I mean, and I'm not trying

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to put anybody down, but when you when you're trying

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to craft this this story around Joan, she just disappears

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from Bigfoot, she disappears from UFO. And so I got

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a hold of Heather and I said, Heather, I don't

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know what to do, and Heather, you kind of want

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to work on it.

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Yeah, I found out she was a real person. You

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did not invent her at all. I actually talked to

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doctor Johnson and asked him about her, called him up

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and got some info from him as well. But and

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I'd tracked down some relatives to see if they were

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willing to talk about her at all. And they were

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going to be looking into their records because that was

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the one thing we didn't know where all of her

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research went, right, So they were going to be looking

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into that, and we're going to get back to me.

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I haven't heard from them, but yeah, she was involved

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from a very early age. There were in even her family,

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if I'm remembering correctly, had incidents that happened to them

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when she was a young girl. So she was brought

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into the community very young and then stayed with it

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and became a It seemed like from everything I read

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that she was almost like a backbone to the work

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that she did. She was manning the telephone lines back

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whenever people would like physically call on the telephone to

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report stuff, and taking down notes and keeping all that

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in line. So yeah, and it was UFOs and Bigfoot

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because she had a hand in the UFO stuff as well,

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very much. So.

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And as we uncover more, hopefully Heather and I do

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something with the material, because she does have a story

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that deserves to be told. You know, if you spend

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time in this and you put the work in, whether

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you're a page or a chapter, your story still deserves

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to be told in this field. And I've always felt

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bad that you know this lady and I didn't know

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her personally, and I don't know why I developed such

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a kinship with her and I don't know her, but

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I don't know why it was so important to me,

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but it was. And when Heather, you know, got a

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hold of me and said, hey, I got information, I

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had tears because I don't know. It was just really

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important to me that she gets recognition for the work

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she's done, and we're going to make sure at some

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point in time that it happens. How it happens, I

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don't know. But Heather was really the driving force to

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get the info. She had a family, but it wasn't

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a large family. It's not like it was incredibly expansive,

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but it was very reclusive. It's not like they were

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just numping out.

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Yeah, I'm just taking a note now to reach out

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again to that relative that i'd talked to to see

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if there are any updates, because I know life gets busy,

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So it does.

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It does. Now, Heather, as you've gone through and done

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research on all these topics, what's what has been one

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of the more significant, maybe shocking revelations you've stumbled upon

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while doing research on any of these topics. What's been

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the most stand out thing you've uncovered?

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the impact that some of these experiences have had on

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people in general. It's not that the stories themselves are

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I mean, they're all significant. It's not that there's anything

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that's really I don't know, like, oh my goodness, I've

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never heard of that before. It seems like most stories

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that people have to tell there are there's a precedent

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for it somewhere else, which should make them feel better

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that they're not alone in their citing. But the stuff

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that's like a wow moment is when you start talking

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to these people and if they've had a very significant

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emotional reaction to it, especially if it had been like

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decades before and they still have difficulty recounting what had

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happened to them, that's pretty That's a pretty serious thing

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that you know, you definitely take to heart when you're

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talking to people.

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Yeah. Absolutely, I just I'm being interviewed on another show

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here that's coming out. It's relatively it's has nothing to

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do with cryptozoology. It has all to do with people, right.

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And one of the things that was, you know, was

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talking about my personal experiences and I had just done

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a presentation and Catawista, Pennsylvania, and from my own experience,

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how much it changed me Talking to Lawn and Eric

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Hartman over the weekend, two people I've worked with for

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a long time kind of you know, recultivated that. And

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you're right, Heather, it's sometimes those experiences you have really

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don't even resonate in the moment that they really take

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a long time to build and build and build, and

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then one day you just have this crescendo of emotion

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or flashback or whatever you want to call it, and

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it's it's just driving and it really it gets to you.

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It uncovers a raw nerve and it's really these situations

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really affect people. And it's one thing that I don't

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think this I don't want to say skeptics, because I

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think there's a different a difference between real skeptics and

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there's a difference between assholes, right, And it's the one

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thing the assholes just don't get is that these are

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real people that when somebody's having a real experience, you

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know you can't fake that. And I'm sure you both

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know you know from either interviewing witnesses or and you know, Heather,

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the research you've done, there's something that it's a thread

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that weaves between these people that have had these really

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true encounters and these true experiences. There's this it was

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almost like a thread of a genuine thread that really

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that ties it together.

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And we've had moments where stuff aligns on projects that

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we definitely weren't intending for it to align in such

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a way. So there was, for example, on UFOs, on

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the trail of UFOs night visitors we had I had

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tracked down a guy. It was a very weird way

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that I got in touch with him. I had like

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contacted a local a local shamanic teacher out in Colorado

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and I was like, Hey, just out of curiosity, has

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anybody ever come to you with a significant event that's

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happened in their life similar to a UFO situation. She's like, actually, yes,

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my son in law had an encounter and she talked

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with him, and he was really reluctant to talk to us.

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a little bit a couple times, he was like, Okay,

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I'll come out. And he was so terrified when he

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got to the airbnb, he was just pacing back and forth,

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just shaking. And I think when he recounted the story,

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the nervousness was not just about being on camera but

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about reliving the experience altogether. But after he explains his story,

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which one of the main parts of it is that

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there was this blinding light that came in through the

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bedroom window that he I think his phrasing was something like,

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you know, the lights in the parking lot at Walmart

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can get really bright. It was that, but times one hundred. Well,

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the next morning, we talked with a move On member,

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Katie Page, and she was explaining her experience from when

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she was younger, and she brought up the exact same

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light and gave the exact same description of that light.

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And so I was able to message that man and

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tell him, Hey, you're not gonna believe this, but we're

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interviewing somebody right now who had almost an identical experience,

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and he felt so relieved that there was someone else

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that had had that because he hadn't shared his story

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with anyone. He didn't want to, but you know, it's

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got to be to have an experience like that and

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then not know if other people have had that same encounter.

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It's got to be a lonely feeling. So that was

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just something that we all looked at each other as

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Katie was explaining her her scenario from when she was younger,

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and she gets to the point of the light in

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a voice because it also had a voice with it,

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and everybody on the crew just looks at each other like,

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is this happening right now? We just heard this story

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last night from someone completely different. So yeah, that was

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really awesome.

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Heather. Now, you've been in all areas of the paranormal unexplained,

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inviewed folks, and investigated different sightings and encounters. Not to

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draw a difference in intensity or do you find the

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UFO experiencers tend to be a little bit more emotional

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about their encounters than folks that experience ghosts or bigfoot hmm,

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or maybe shaken up more.

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Yeah, it does seem that way in some instances, But

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then for every person that seems emotional with a UFO encounter,

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I think back to some of the sasquatch encounters that

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we've talked or we've interviewed people about, and there's were

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particularly violent in some way, or or if you get

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into dogman encounters, those ones are especially emotional for people.

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but I see what you're saying. I can see that correlation.

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Sure, right, For some reason, it just seems like UFO

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in experiences or you know folks that have more than

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just a UFO, like a blinding light with a disembodied voice,

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or you know, et contactor. And I'm not trying to

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be disparaging. I'm just going to use that terminology that

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they there is a lot more of a darkness to it,

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like an elevated sense of fear and dread, where you

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know a big foot sighting could be. And I hear go,

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I'm going to say it again, Matt, don't hit me

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something simple as something running across the road. Yeah, And

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the ongoing joke is a few episodes ago I said that,

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I said, a roadside crossing isn't that significant of us

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a sighting, not intentionally meaning you know what I'm saying,

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Like in the terms encounters you could have or roadside

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encounters you know, a little mundane, but you know, with

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with the you know some of these real deep you

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know effective UFO or you know, ET contact. So it's

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a lot darker and a lot more in person and

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and and scary. It really the fear factors.

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There more absolutely well, they seem to also lose the

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ability to control your own bodies a lot more, right,

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Not that that doesn't happen with sasquatch experiences, because I've

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heard of people having that as well, where they completely

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freeze up, But with the UFO witnesses that we've talked to,

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there's been a lot more of a feeling as if

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you don't have control of the situation at all in

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any way, and that would be unnerving for certain.

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Well, I really feel like that that there's two different

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phenomenas in that. One. I think with the sasquatch encounters

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and you can't move, I think that's a physical response

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to something, whereas something from out there that could be induced.

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And one could also make the argument that a sasquatch

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can do the same thing, but I don't know. To me,

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it seems very different. And a lot of these intense

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sightings and experiences that happened to UFO contact ease. It's

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more induced than it is you know, your own body

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preventing you from doing I.

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Was just about to say that as a biological reaction

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that the person is having as opposed to a UFO encounter,

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where you know, you may have something that could displace time,

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energy and such and you have absolutely no control over

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that whatsoever. Whereas it's your body putting that defense up

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when you're dealing with a dangerous situation. Is say you're

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you know, you see a big foot and it's coming

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to your car, coming, you know, uh coming to you

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and you're out in the woods.

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I don't want to start a whole debate with folks

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out there that you know that any of these situations

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are less scary than the other. That's not the intent,

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you know, it's the dialogue between that I personally, from

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what I've witnessed and experienced from folks talking about their

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encounters people with you know UFO contacts are a lot

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more disturbed by them than you know, your generals, And

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at this point in time, Like you know, some sasquatch

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experiences are are just really like, I don't know, bullshit

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I'm having Like we've made it easy for folks to hoax.

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Now I say that all the time too, like we've

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put it out there and is it really a big

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foot or you just connecting dots that don't exist, like

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you know, as we as you go forward with these documentaries, Heather,

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and you talk to people that probably want to be

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on these programs, what's your bullshit detector look like?

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Uh? Well, huh so far that has come up a

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few times when it has to deal with somebody you

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reaching out to me directly and being extra pushy. Not

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that I haven't had people reach out to me that

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have said things like, you know, I've had an experience

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and I want to get this off my chest or whatever,

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but they're not pushy about listen. I've got the story

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that we're gonna sell a million copies if you record it.

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You know. I've had those kind of people come up

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to me and I was like, Okay, I mean, I'll

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listen to you, but that's about it. But yeah, I

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don't know. Of course, it's it's difficult with some because

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there's no doubt that they've seen something. It just doesn't

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necessarily sound like what they think it is. But that's

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not my job to decide either. That's the good thing

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about being the researchers. I just have to record the

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facts that are presented to me as they are. But yeah, definitely,

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I've had people come up and they're just the extra

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pushy ones are a huge red flag to me.

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It's not that you don't want to believe folks, Yeah,

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it's I think so many of us want there to

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be information we can gather from the sighting or the

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encounter this person has had. But you have to be

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very careful with that information if it's good information, if

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it's just going to contaminate the data pool. And that's

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the struggle Matt and I are kind of going through

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right now as we go through a lot of these

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citing reports that we're seeing from past and present that

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you know, is this really good data? You know, when

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we're looking through our own reports, was this really something

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we can validate or was this an emotional response? Was

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this a feeling as opposed to a fact? And we're

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really trying to push ours at least the two of

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us in our own research push ourselves between that difference

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is there is it a feeling or is it a fact?

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But just because it's a feeling doesn't mean we disagnore it.

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At the same time, we still notated, but I think

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we're very We're a lot more careful. And it's the

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same as we talk with witnesses. It's you know, there's

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certain things they tell us that that sound really good,

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and there's certain things that they say to us that

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are kind of like, well, that's kind of a red flag.

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But case in point, Heather, Matt and I had a

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guy that came to our town hall meeting. He didn't

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want to be a part of the town hall. He

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didn't even stay for it. He came to the town hall,

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gave us some information and it was really good information.

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Like the information he gave us is stuff that we've

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been salivating over for years of trying to get really

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good data. But the next concern after we heard it was, man,

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this is really too good to be true. Until we

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followed that data to the source and we're like, wow,

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we can validate everything he's saying to us. And so

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it was I don't know, it's it's a it's a

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great time to be alive in this research, but it's

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also an incredible burden if you're trying to put out

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good research.

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Yeah, and like you said that, the fact that he

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came to you and he didn't stay, he didn't get pushy,

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it doesn't sound like or anything like that. It's not

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like he came to you and said, listen, this is

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going to make an excellent documentary or anything like that.

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That that's a good thing that helps. That's on his

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side for sure.

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Right, Yeah, I mean, and that was the big takeaway

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from it. Like he brought the information to us, but

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he really kind of had that nonchalant I don't give

460
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:53.400
a crap attitude, like you take with this and do

461
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:57.359
with this as you wish, but like there's like important

462
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.559
data that you get. As Matt's a hunter. I'm not

463
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:03.960
a hunter, but I am respectful of hunting trends because

464
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:05.599
it's important we follow them for what we do.

465
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:05.720
One.

466
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:06.839
I don't also don't want to go out in the

467
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:09.759
woods and get shot trying to look for bigfoot and

468
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:11.920
being out there at the wrong time of year. But

469
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:15.079
the things he was telling us about animals at elevations

470
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:19.200
and a lack of animals at certain elevations that wasn't

471
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:23.440
happening beforehand. It was all very telling stuff and it

472
00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:30.200
turned out to be really really good data. That's awesome, Matt.

473
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:32.680
You got any questions, I'm wordy tonight. I'm talking a

474
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:34.119
little bit a little bit.

475
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:40.079
So here's my here's my biggest thing for Heather is

476
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:45.160
I was introduced to you from watching Small Town Monsters,

477
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:52.240
watching the series. I'm innerva you had been involved with

478
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:58.240
this property. Yes, if that had some activity. So I'm

479
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:01.119
going to kind of start morch where the beginning here?

480
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.400
Was this something that you just kind of you know,

481
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.279
you started experiencing the activity and you reached out to

482
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.640
Seth or was it something where Seth had reached out

483
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.319
to you guys because of the activity. Can you tell

484
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:20.279
us how the how everything started with that?

485
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:24.680
Yeah, so you're referring to the Bigfoot project. Yes, and

486
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.400
that got started. That was definitely not something that had

487
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.799
been planned. We had just moved here to this farm,

488
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.720
which was my husband's family's farm. But we moved in

489
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:43.720
and we moved in in the end of July early

490
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:47.039
August something along those lines, and around mid August a

491
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:50.720
friend had come over to visit. She had flown in

492
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:55.680
from Oregon, and we were looking more because this is

493
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:58.319
an old farmhouse, so we were like, let's do some

494
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:01.839
ghost investigating here house. So we were at the house

495
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:04.319
doing some stuff and then we're like, well, how cool

496
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:05.960
would it be to go out in the woods. Because

497
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.839
this property has about three hundred acres attached to it.

498
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:11.599
It's a mix between farmland and woods, So like, let's

499
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:14.240
go to the woods and see what we can find.

500
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.240
And we were in the woods, and within just a

501
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:18.319
few minutes of being in the woods, she was extremely

502
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:22.160
uncomfortable and she's like, we can't stay here. We got

503
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:23.839
to go out in the field. And I'm like, okay,

504
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:25.839
that doesn't seem very ghost like, but all right, we'll

505
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:27.680
go in the field. So we went out in the

506
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.920
field and I said, well, now I feel like this

507
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.400
could be like a bigfoot thing. Let's play the Ohio

508
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:35.880
Howl because that was recorded not too far from where

509
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:40.920
Minerva is anyway, just county over. And I played the

510
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:43.240
howl just from my phone, just cut my hand around it,

511
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:45.519
so you know, as loud as that would be. But

512
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:47.119
we got returns from that.

513
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:48.000
Oh really.

514
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.440
Then we yeah, then the one friend that was with us.

515
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:54.599
He could do the whistle that you know, you put

516
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:56.079
your fingers in your mouth you whistle really loud. I

517
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:58.000
can't do it, but yeah, he would do that and

518
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:02.359
we'd get the return whistle back. And eventually my friend

519
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:05.559
became extremely uncomfortable and was like, we gotta I can't

520
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:07.440
be out here. There's stuff here. But we had things

521
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:10.799
happen that night, and then I don't know if it

522
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.680
was the next day because she was still here, so

523
00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:15.000
I don't know if I went back out the next

524
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.440
day or not, but it was within the next couple days.

525
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:21.119
I went out and I looked where I had put

526
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:23.599
crystals in the woods, because when we first moved in here,

527
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:25.680
I put crystals around the woods because I thought it'd

528
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:27.359
be cool for my kids to come across them, like

529
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:31.279
a treasure hunt or something as yet older. And the

530
00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:33.839
one crystal was gone, and in its place was a

531
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:38.000
deer vertebrae. And that's whenever I got a whole seth

532
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:40.519
was in that timeframe, and I was like, hey, because

533
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:42.400
I was already working for STM at that time, but

534
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:46.960
I'm like, Okay, weird stuff's happening here. You should know,

535
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:50.200
just I don't know exactly what's going on, but here's

536
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:53.039
what happened the other night. Now this is gone, and

537
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:55.079
now I've got this deer vertebrae, which Seth was like,

538
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:56.640
you didn't touch it, did you? And I'm like, yeah,

539
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.480
I'm actually holding it right now. He's like, oh, you

540
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:01.680
shouldn't have on it. But he's like, listen, I'm gonna

541
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:03.720
come out with some cameras. We're gonna see what's going on.

542
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.200
And so he came out and the first night that

543
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.440
he was here with cameras is what you get in

544
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:12.480
the first episode of the Big Book Project. Yeah, and

545
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:16.279
but that all happened super quickly. I mean he was

546
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:22.400
here by September, so I mean we'd been here a month,

547
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:26.599
month and a half maybe w and there had not

548
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:30.039
been activity that at least my in laws have not

549
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:36.440
told me anything about activity here beforehand, not on this

550
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:41.359
property anyway. So yeah, we definitely weren't expecting it, but

551
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:45.279
it happened, and we were able to get a lot

552
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.559
of it on camera, which was also awesome.

553
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.680
Yeah, that I'll tell you that was our big introduction

554
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:56.200
to you. And I'm gonna have a bunch more questions

555
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:58.960
about Bigfoot for you when we when we get back

556
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:02.359
from the break. So sounds good, all right.

557
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.359
Stay tuned, folks, We're gonna tak a quick break as

558
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.359
we played the big Foot Bullhorn live here in the

559
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:11.160
Sasquatch Experience. Stay tuned, folks. Sean Falker, Matt Arner, and

560
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:13.599
Heather Moser will catch you right on the Flip Side

561
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:15.319
News team.

562
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:25.400
I Sam, I don't mind Halloween. Our cat died two

563
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:27.440
days for Halloween this years. We left him in the

564
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:28.680
yard for extra decoration.

565
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:29.319
Pretty good.

566
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:37.480
Do you dress up for Halloween? I did this year

567
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:39.319
my buddy I wanted to help him out. You got

568
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:42.480
a health food business. He started a little gym in theres.

569
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.559
So I dressed up, put on a dress and win

570
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:45.519
as a trans fat.

571
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:51.400
A happy Monday night to you all on Halloween week.

572
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:56.119
Oh scary scary. Thanks for joining us here at the

573
00:33:56.359 --> 00:34:00.400
big Foot Bullhorn, right here at the Sasquatch Experience. And

574
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:03.279
I'm going to step off the Bigfoot path just a

575
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:05.279
little bit because I want to make a point that

576
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:12.639
sometimes something extremely normal can be misconstrued as something completely abnormal.

577
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.360
And you can give me your opinion back on October

578
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:22.679
twenty second, the Wildlife Conservation Park in England posted on

579
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:28.199
Facebook that it wanted help with an animal identification. According

580
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:33.840
to the post, Bristol Zoo's Projects trail cameras recorded a

581
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:41.079
mysterious winged and horned creature lurking near the facility's animal habitats.

582
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:46.039
The identity of the critter has animal experts, I want

583
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:51.519
to underline experts a little stumped per the post, so

584
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:55.000
the Bristol Zoo Projects shared a photo of the mystery

585
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:59.599
animal with their Facebook fans for help. In the photo

586
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:04.679
the creature included the Facebook post, the animal appears to

587
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.760
have at least one horn coming out of its cow

588
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:13.039
like head and also seems to be donning wings. Now

589
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:18.800
the conservation team uses camera traps to survey the ancient woodland.

590
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:23.840
A familiar munt jag dear has us a little stumped.

591
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.440
The park road on the post, which also included a

592
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:31.360
photo of a monk jag deer in daylight so viewers

593
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:35.960
could compare the deer with the mystery animal. Muntjag deer

594
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:40.079
are small species of deer native to Southeast Asia that

595
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:45.119
grow short antlers that resemble horns. According to the Park,

596
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:50.599
the Bristol Zoological Society conservation team, which monitors. The cameras

597
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:54.760
set up alongside bare woods seven and a half acres

598
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:58.960
of ancient woodland that has seen footage of the mystery

599
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:02.880
animal and say the creature appears to have fore legs

600
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:08.400
and it's like nothing we've ever spotted before. The strange

601
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:12.960
creature's appearance occurred right at the beginning of Bristol zoos

602
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:21.400
projects Halloween celebration, including the Zoo's howl Oween, Myths and

603
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:25.880
Legends Trail, where visitors will get to see animals up

604
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:30.280
close and maybe spot the mystery animal. Okay, if you

605
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:32.719
take a look at the picture, you can see what

606
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.559
they refer to. The wing on its back is an

607
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:42.519
exact duplicate of its ear. It's a double exposure photo,

608
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:50.599
something so common, and yet we perceive it as something

609
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:57.119
mythical and cryptid. Like you know, I understand this may

610
00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:01.639
just be a who knows from emotional thing to have

611
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:06.199
more visitors come to the Bristol Zoo Project's Halloween celebration,

612
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:12.320
but nonetheless it's still a hoax. Hey, when we come back,

613
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:17.719
we've got an announcement to make for next year. Now

614
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:19.159
you're gonna have to sit around and wait.

615
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:26.079
You're listening to the big football horn right here on

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the Sasquatch Experience.

617
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618
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out for twenty twenty five and go to March twenty

631
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ninth and mark it down because it's the return of

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the penn Ohio Paranormal Conference at Tiffany's Banquet Center in Brookfield, Ohio.

633
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:12.599
Your mcs are Jamie King and Jenny King I know

634
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:19.079
them from somewhere, and special guest speakers Gwendolyn Purcell wonder

635
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if she's got knockers, Jim Sparks, Fred Saluga, Michael Cook,

636
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and just for Halloween, Amy Boo. The address is Tiffany's

637
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Banquet Center, six zero one Bedford Road, Southeast, Brookfield, Ohio.

638
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:42.639
Thanks again for listening to this edition of the Big

639
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:48.880
Football Horn right here. I'm the Sasquatch Experience. Gentlemen, you

640
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:49.440
know what to do.

641
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.760
I'm telling we meet again in the MI.

642
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:06.400
Vance is not with us tonight. I think he pulled

643
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:10.239
a hamstring doing that big football horn this week, but

644
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:14.000
we thank you Vance for your contribution. It's not a

645
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.800
Sasquatch experience with a big footballhorn, folks. I'm Sean the

646
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.400
fort chout Walker Matt Arner our guest tonight, Heather Moser.

647
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.119
As we're back into the last part of our show

648
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:26.239
for the evening. My God is the time flown? And man,

649
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:28.079
we were just starting to get into the big Foot

650
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.079
Project before I pulled us away for the break So

651
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:35.960
Bigfoot Project at an undisclosed location in Ohio, Heather Crazy Place,

652
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:40.079
Seth Breed Love had a sighting at that location and

653
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:46.320
hayes he's filming jumps out of a moving UTV. Crazy

654
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:47.360
tell us about that.

655
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:54.320
Well, from my perspective, what happened was Seth went out

656
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:56.920
to shoot b roll and came back super excited that

657
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:01.679
he had a sighting. But what happened was they were

658
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:05.480
driving around on the gator to get b roll of

659
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:09.960
the farm, and during the at the one clear cut area,

660
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:14.360
set saw something run across the opening the clear cut

661
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:20.760
opening and apparently said stop, but before it could get stopped,

662
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:25.840
just ran out of the vehicle anyway and didn't break

663
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:29.679
his legs somehow and started running in that general direction,

664
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:34.079
but couldn't get very far because the clear cut wasn't

665
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:36.719
really that clear. There were a bunch of briers and

666
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:40.159
rambles and stuff up, so he could only get so far.

667
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:44.480
But later actually we found out that right where he

668
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.239
had his sighting, when they did clear it out and

669
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:50.679
actually come in and mow, there was a path right

670
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:55.800
there that we didn't know existed. So it was clearly

671
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.679
taking the path of least resistance literally as it was

672
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:04.880
crossed seeing the clearing. But yeah, Seth had that glimpse

673
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:08.880
and was super stoked about it, and I was like,

674
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:13.639
of course I missed it, Doug on it, So I

675
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:16.599
haven't seen one, but I did, you know as it

676
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:19.679
was seen. Yeah, I don't know how I didn't get

677
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:27.360
injured either, maybe as was seen on the Bigfoot project.

678
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:29.679
I was still there when we had activities, so I've

679
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:35.880
definitely heard them around but not seen one, which honestly

680
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:39.679
I may be okay with that, to be fair, I

681
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:41.559
don't know how I would feel if I were to

682
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:42.039
see one.

683
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:48.800
So that's a good you know, it's a good feeling.

684
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:52.480
Take experience, I guess as someone who's had an encounter,

685
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:56.519
sometimes I wish I would never have. It really messed

686
00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:58.119
me up a little bit because you know, want to

687
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.559
be objective and then you have this experience like, oh,

688
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:03.280
I'm not going to lose my objectivity. Well you said

689
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:06.360
you still hear them, you can still you get vocalizations

690
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:09.400
pretty routinely, or is it spread not anymore?

691
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.360
Not anymore? Things really died down, which we saw at

692
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.400
the end of the Bigfoot projects. Things that started to

693
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:18.079
die down. But what happened was is that there were

694
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:23.199
more clearcutting happened. Oil and gas pipelines came in and

695
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:25.360
they cut more of the woods away. So even like

696
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:29.079
where you see where you see the cabin now, there

697
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:32.320
used to be a pretty decent amount of woods behind it.

698
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.679
But there's a huge area that's clear cut now shortly

699
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:39.639
behind the cabin, and that area that Seth saw where

700
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:42.719
it ran across that area is at least twice as

701
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:46.039
wide now, So they did cut out a good chunk

702
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:49.000
of the woods on the property. But I don't know,

703
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:53.519
We've had some weird stuff happen this summer. Not enough

704
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.400
for me to be like, Seth, you've got to get

705
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:58.880
out here right now, but we have heard some stuff,

706
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:04.559
and I don't know those crystals. I still have those

707
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.280
crystals out and about for the kids and stuff and

708
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.840
or for whatever may move them at this point, and

709
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:15.639
a couple have been moved. But it's still not anything

710
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:18.400
like crazy like it was when we first started the

711
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:19.320
Bigfoot project.

712
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.639
So what is it that you're hearing that you heard

713
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:23.679
over the summer this year?

714
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:28.360
So over the summer I've heard I've heard the whistles

715
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:31.199
for one, and then a bunch of movement in the

716
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:35.960
woods we never really heard, like, aside from the first

717
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:38.599
time that we played the howls and heard something back

718
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:42.480
the howling was never a thing that really happened here anyway.

719
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:46.559
But I haven't heard any hows. I've heard the whistles,

720
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:51.360
and there's been movement in the woods where it's just

721
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:55.000
out of line of sight or whatever. At night, of course,

722
00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:57.679
when it's starting to get darker, it's not even completely dark,

723
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.519
and we'll be out I'll hear the movi and around.

724
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:04.159
But and then the like I said that crystal being moved.

725
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.960
That actually Caseth came out to film some stuff. He's

726
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:11.239
been out here on and off, just briefly, to film

727
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:16.440
some like recreation shots and stuff with the big Foot costumes.

728
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:19.679
And after he left the one time I had gone

729
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:21.280
out and the one crystal had been moved, and I

730
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:23.280
called him and I'm like, did you move that crystal?

731
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:25.519
He's like, no, I didn't. He's like, I was looking

732
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:29.039
for them, but I didn't see, So I thought that

733
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:29.559
was weird.

734
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:34.639
Do you have any do you have any plans to

735
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:40.199
to continue with the Bigfoot experiences and to you know,

736
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:43.639
to go out to you know, maybe out where we

737
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.800
are in Pennsylvania, or to go out to the west

738
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:48.800
coast to explore a little bit.

739
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.239
I mean, I think that that would be a goal.

740
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:54.400
At some point to be able to do that. I

741
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.639
just don't know where that falls right now as far

742
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:00.320
as what we can do and production wise where we'd

743
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.679
be able to go. But it's definitely something that we've

744
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:06.000
talked about, you know, different iterations of something like the

745
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.159
Bigfoot project, that that would be nice, but you've got

746
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:12.039
to have the time and the location, because that was

747
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:15.039
the one good thing about where this happened. I mean,

748
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:19.119
I'm in within at the time, Seth was about an

749
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:21.360
hour away, so it wasn't much of a big deal

750
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.679
for him to come down and spend a couple of

751
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:28.599
days here, but we'd have to find a place that

752
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:31.519
and then he would come every weekend for several months.

753
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:34.159
It seemed like it was just about every weekend. He

754
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.000
was here a lot, and we'd have to find a

755
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.440
place similar to that, I think to get similar results.

756
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:44.920
Well, it's interesting because the area where I had my

757
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:47.880
encounter that I would be more willing to take everybody too,

758
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:53.119
has also been clear cut and cut through. And I

759
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:56.000
wrote that down because I found that an interesting note

760
00:46:56.039 --> 00:47:01.480
that some of these places that you almost wonder if

761
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:06.559
there's on purpose, like you'd hate to be that conspiratorial

762
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:09.599
and think, but when you put this much attention on

763
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:14.760
certain places and these areas become more known and there

764
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:17.320
is activity, is the best way to kind of quell

765
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:18.719
activity is that, you know what, We're just going to

766
00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:22.360
clearcut this bullshit. No woods, no bigfoot, no nothing. And

767
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:23.920
I would, like I said, I'd hate to be that

768
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:27.840
conspiratorial about it, but it's just strange, but we're starting

769
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:31.360
to see this happen in areas that used to be

770
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:34.400
of a high activity. When I think of Clearfield County

771
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.599
in general, is a lot of that clear cutting going

772
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:40.480
on up in those up in those mountains. And I mean,

773
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:42.599
at some point. The nice thing is you have the Alleghenies,

774
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.119
which is a national forest, and that's usually not a

775
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:48.280
proper thing that happens in those, but you know, in

776
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:50.440
those surrounding areas, they start to get cut and it's

777
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.199
kind of man, it's you know, you talk about timing, Heather.

778
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.760
If we only had more time, maybe we could get

779
00:47:57.800 --> 00:47:59.960
to some of these places before they become a bulldozer

780
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.800
paradise right right.

781
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.840
And that reminds me of one of the researchers that

782
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:09.079
I spoke to up in Canada. Actually, he'd talked about

783
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:12.079
centering some of his research on places that were getting

784
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:14.639
clear cut when they first start to get clear cut

785
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:17.519
in the very beginning, because he said there would actually

786
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:20.320
be a spike in activity that he noticed around the equipment,

787
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:24.960
so he would actually take which I never thought about

788
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:27.480
that when stuff started here. I just figured stuff had

789
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.360
already died down anyway prior to the clear cutting. But

790
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.440
then once the clear cutting started, I just figured that

791
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:35.440
was it. I didn't put any extra effort into like

792
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:37.880
staking out where the equipment was or anything like that.

793
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:39.400
It didn't cross my mind to do so.

794
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:42.039
Well, if you think about it though, in the fifties

795
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:44.800
in California, when the bigfoot stuff started picking up, what

796
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.519
were they doing logging and they were really starting to

797
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.880
get into that, you know, the heavy deforestation of some

798
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:53.039
of those areas there. So you know, looking back on

799
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.239
it in this moment to think, hey, oh, it does

800
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:57.880
make sense the focus on some of those clear cuts.

801
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:01.880
I don't know. I don't know. That's the big mystery

802
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:03.280
of all this. If we knew, we wouldn't be sitting

803
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:05.239
here talking about it. We'd all be doing something else.

804
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:11.719
It'd be a bowling podcast or something. But yeah, sadly,

805
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:14.599
I guess we won't get more of the Bigfoot project

806
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.679
unless something significant pops up or you know, you changed,

807
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:20.000
because you've got Sasquatch on Earth going on. You have

808
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:26.159
which Buckeye Bigfoot, right, and then you've got paranormal Horizons

809
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:31.840
with Ron and Ron and Joe right. Then you've got Shenandoah,

810
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:34.400
Sasquatch Tyler and those and you've got Alex going around

811
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.239
all over the place. We're going to hold them hostage

812
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:41.679
here again for another weekend. At some point, Alex and

813
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:46.039
I investigated the same property ten years apart from one another,

814
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:52.400
and Alex actually captured the UFO in film up in

815
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:56.440
up on that property, and that's that's another story for

816
00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:59.519
another time, Heather, that's a whole I would love to

817
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:05.239
be with Alex and get together and do that again. Oh,

818
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:07.760
the issue becomes a lot of our witnesses, a lot

819
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:11.239
of our witnesses are starting to die, and it's not right.

820
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:17.119
We're not doing it. It's natural causes, so right, we're

821
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:19.280
not plants, we're not working for the Feds. It's just

822
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:23.079
sadly it's happening. Uh. And the property has become a

823
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:25.480
dispute and then you can't get back into those places.

824
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:29.599
So Matt, I stow your thunder again. I'm sorry, I'm wordy.

825
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:32.920
Now, that's that's no problem. I actually want to transition

826
00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:37.239
now and again because we're we're coming up on Halloween.

827
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:43.199
There is very well renowned for the paranormal research. And

828
00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:47.320
I'm going to ask you this, what is the scariest

829
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:53.320
most haunted woods that you've been in? And yeah, yeah,

830
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:55.599
outdoor wooded area.

831
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:08.519
Hmm, let me think. I mean, well, I mean I've

832
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:11.079
been We went to the pine barrens and I wasn't

833
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:13.960
feeling it there. Of course, it was daytime. Who knows

834
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:16.280
what that would be like at night, it'd probably be terrifying.

835
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:18.639
I'm not that far from there, and I could tell

836
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:20.000
you it is cray.

837
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.559
It was just really cool. Oh see. Yeah, well that's

838
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:28.079
got real life things to be concerned about, like actual

839
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:32.360
murdering aspect of things. But as far as like woods

840
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:35.719
that I've been in at night, I don't. I don't know.

841
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:39.280
I was just at the Hinsdale House up in New York,

842
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:44.599
and the house itself didn't really terrify me at all,

843
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:47.960
but there was something about the woods around there that

844
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:50.599
I'm like, I wanted us as a group to go out,

845
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:52.440
but nobody would go with me to They're like, no,

846
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:56.760
we're to stay. But that probably would have been a

847
00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:58.920
scary one. I just had a sense about it when

848
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:01.719
we got there that it there was something off about it.

849
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.320
But I don't know a lot of the woods that

850
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:09.280
I've been in at night, even when we've been filming

851
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:11.880
and stuff, it's just been exciting to be out there.

852
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:17.480
It hasn't necessarily been terrifying. When we were doing Sasquatch

853
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:20.280
on Earth the Ridge and we were in the woods

854
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:24.239
at night, and when we saw the phantom lights that

855
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:26.599
had shown up, the earth lights or spook lights, whatever

856
00:52:26.599 --> 00:52:29.880
you want to call them, and we were just well,

857
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:33.599
I was just excited that it was happening. I wasn't

858
00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:38.519
terrified by it. But I don't know. I mean, I've

859
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:40.880
been unnerved even in the woods here at the farm,

860
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:44.280
which I think was evident on the Bigfoot project. When

861
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:49.119
stuff's running around us. That was a little unnerving. But

862
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:51.639
I don't know. I don't know if I can answer

863
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:54.000
that question. I don't know if I have one.

864
00:52:54.760 --> 00:53:00.760
Yeah, well, Sean, do you have a favorite place Heather

865
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:04.760
that really, no matter how many times you go there

866
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:06.280
just makes your skin pimple.

867
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:16.280
Mansfield Reformatory State Formatory. Go to Mansfield and uh, just

868
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.639
it's beautiful, but it's got areas that are terrifying. That

869
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:24.159
or Madison Seminary, which is in Madison, Ohio as well.

870
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:27.239
Every time I've gone there there's been something spooky that

871
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:29.480
has occurred. It seems like that's one of those places

872
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:32.079
where if you were going to take somebody for their

873
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:35.599
first investigation, I would recommend taking them in Madison because

874
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:39.639
something's probably going to happen. It's a little awful wall,

875
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:44.079
but it's hard not to get spooked by Mansfield just

876
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:46.960
because of the very look of the architecture. It looks

877
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:49.760
like a castle. It's and the same thing could be

878
00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:54.079
said about Moundsville, the West Virginia State Penitentiary. It looks

879
00:53:54.119 --> 00:54:00.400
even more foreboding than Mansfield does. So either of those prisons,

880
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:03.440
I would say, but Mansfield. I'm always excited to go

881
00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:06.000
to Mansfield. It doesn't even matter. I've been there many

882
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:10.480
times and I'll always want to go hang out and.

883
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:11.280
That's where you'll find it.

884
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:11.920
No, I don't know.

885
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:15.719
If you go tell them Heather sent you, you know,

886
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:19.599
maybe you know find some extra spooks that way, Yeah, Heather,

887
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:22.840
Any final thoughts you want to leave us with to night,

888
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:26.440
anything that you want to leave the listeners with. Any

889
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:30.000
upcoming projects that you're working on that folks should pay

890
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:30.960
attention to.

891
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:35.760
Well, we actually have coming out on the thirtieth. We've

892
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:39.440
got two things coming out. We have are the next

893
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:43.920
book by Ron Murphy, Lights in the Mist, is coming

894
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.960
out on the thirtieth, and it's companion film, which is

895
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:51.800
directed by Tyler Hall. Phantom Lights, will also be out

896
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:54.280
on the thirtieth. So that's our big Halloween stuff coming

897
00:54:54.360 --> 00:55:01.679
out this year. And I'm thinking newsletter because I put

898
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:03.719
the newsletter out every week. The big thing that's coming

899
00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:06.000
at the end of the newsletter is the all of

900
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:08.280
our pumpkin attire, which I saw Sean. You've got the

901
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:11.760
one hoodie with the pumpkins on it. We've got a

902
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:14.239
sale going on at the shop right now up until

903
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:17.639
November first. But as far as big projects go, I mean,

904
00:55:18.599 --> 00:55:21.239
there's always something on YouTube every week. We've got two

905
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:23.760
new things coming out on YouTube, so keep your eyes there.

906
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:28.400
And we have Lost Contact will be coming out fairly soon,

907
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:31.519
and we'll have goat Men out pretty soon. And then

908
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:35.320
the next thing we're looking into is the ten year anniversary,

909
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:40.239
because that's next year, which is wild. So we're already

910
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:46.199
talking Kickstarter stuff and yeah, I just can't. I can't

911
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:49.159
believe it's a ten year anniversary already. I mean, in

912
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:50.880
some ways I can, in other ways I can.

913
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.199
So you guys have done a lot in ten years.

914
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:57.880
I'll say that as somebody who's been an Ardent supporter,

915
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:02.840
I've always been. I felt like I've got my money's

916
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:05.119
worth out of Small Town Monsters every time I click

917
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.679
the contruct you contribute button. And you're all good people too,

918
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:13.239
which doesn't doesn't hurt. So it's always a pleasure for

919
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:16.880
you to cross paths with us, Heather, and an hour's

920
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:20.800
just not enough. We could go on and on and on,

921
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:25.000
and we only just touch the surface, folks. Unfortunately, James

922
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:30.239
was not here tonight. Henry and Vance, we wish them

923
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:32.960
well and all their different things they have going on. Matt,

924
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:35.039
thank you so much for taking the time to join

925
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:37.920
me tonight. I appreciate you had a busy day, and Heather,

926
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:40.400
of course, it wouldn't be a show without you, so

927
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:40.800
thank you.

928
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:44.360
Thanks for having me. It was great, very much.

929
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:48.360
Smalltown Monsters Dot com you can find Heather's projects there.

930
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:50.280
You can find them on YouTube the Lord you know,

931
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:56.079
Monsteropolis on Spotify. They're everywhere, Folks. You can't don't sleep

932
00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:58.400
on small Town Monsters. They've got something coming out and

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there's something for everybody. Great entertainment and great information from

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those fine folks. Folks, you've been listening to The Sasquatch Experience.

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I'm Sean Walker. You can find out all about me

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on Facebook, Instagram. I'm socially active. You can find me

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on every platform except for OnlyFans. I'm still old school.

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I charge per pound, so at Sean Walker. You can

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find me everywhere. I don't hide behind anything besides my

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name Matt wherein Folks find you?

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Thank you find me on Facebook, Facebook most of the time,

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Critic Wilderness, and probably by the end of the year,

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we'll be launching our new project, the Lging Plateau Project,

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so that'll probably be my main focal point for contact.

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There you have it, folks, Thanks for listening, and we'll

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see you in two weeks. Happy Halloween, be safe everybody,

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and good night, good night.

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You've been listening to sask Watch Experience. Please rate interview

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at sasquatchexperience dot com. Keep on squatching