Oct. 16, 2024

EP 113: "Tactical Mike" Returns

EP 113: "Tactical Mike" Returns

Mike Anne from "Tactical Bigfoot Research" joins us to discuss his latest research and tips for investigating in the field. 

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Season 10

Mike Anne from "Tactical Bigfoot Research" joins us to discuss his latest research and tips for investigating in the field.

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The views and opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch

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Experience do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the host, sponsors,

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or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. As always, listener discretion

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is advised.

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We got someone or something growing around out here?

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Does a legend walk among us working in the forests

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of our world?

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Did you see what it was?

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Was it a person or an animal? Or I can't go? Oh,

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I know it's that my thunder light came on and

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I just happened to glen and see this thing running

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across the yard. A good fight man or nothing works

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like a man.

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I don't know what it was.

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For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators,

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and witnesses trying to gain insight and proof around the

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existence of this mysterious entity.

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Jesus quite big, Carol Pel, Hello, get somebody out here.

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What's going to announce? There's got to revention about six

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four nine?

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I don't know, easy announce there.

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Yeah, I'm working right away. Oh, okay, hand on her, Yeah,

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got you're big?

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Okay, what's he doing in your yard?

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We're gonna do you.

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Join us? As we continue into the investigation of the

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Sasquatch Experience. I always like that with Henry May there

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at the end. It makes me Henry's alce special. They're

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good evening, folks, Welcome to The Sasquatch Experience. Monday, October fourteenth,

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twenty twenty four. I'm your host, Seawn the Fort chop Forker,

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joined with Henry May, Matt Arner, James Baker, and our

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guest tonight, Tactical Mike. Mike Ann from Tactical Bigfoot Research,

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longtime friend of the show, former guest, and I figured

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it's just time to catch up, gentlemen, is what it was.

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I wanted a nice light show tonight, and nobody makes

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me happier most times than Mike, and so we're glad

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to have them on the show tonight. I mean, Matt,

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I mean, just to catch folks up. We did post

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the report from this hour, our research, our latest research endeavor.

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I have not got the photos uploaded yet. I'm sorry, folks.

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It's been a little challenging to try to get them

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in a way that makes sense. And I like the

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pictures to tell the story, and so that's what's taking

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so long. And then also Matt, if I can get

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the scan of the three D print, we might be

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able to put that up there too, if that's possible.

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So just things that we're working on here to get

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that up there. But they did get the initial report

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that was written by you, edited by me, nothing for context.

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Everything was included the way it was supposed to be,

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just how Matt and I like to do things. He

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writes it formally and I just posted and clean it up.

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So that's where we're at with that. Matt what he

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got to follow up on from their trip there over

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the weekend.

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So I actually went back out there and I took

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the one snowmobile trail, the one that was to the west,

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and hiked that in probably about two and a half miles.

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Got some video.

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Hopefully we'll I'll send it to you and we'll put

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it up on the Patreon found So the interesting part

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about that, I didn't see any further prints. But one

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thing I did see was that there was a ton

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of bear scat uh that was right along the roadway.

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And it was funny because when you when you see

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when I finally put the video together, it actually was

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going in the opposite direction. I was so as I

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passed by the first one. I mean it was literally

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not to make this route, but I mean it was steaming,

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and uh oh this one, this one definitely was. But

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as I walked further along the trail, you can tell, like,

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you know, it had been there. Uh the other ones

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I found had been there for for a little bit.

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But I found coyote tracks, I found, you know, obviously

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the bear sign. I did not see a lot of

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deer sign up there. I did put a camera up there,

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and uh, you know, we'll go back in a couple

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of weeks and and check on that. The forest through

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that area was as you went back a little farther,

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it was probably logged out within the last i'd say

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five to seven years, so they have the regrowth going.

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So it's a very young force. There's not a lot

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of there's not a lot of you know, mature hardwoods

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back through that area. But again, I was just along

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the road in to each side of me, you know,

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to the to the north and to the south, we're

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probably you know, a couple miles each way. Well, definitely

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to the to the west, we're looking at something like

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at least fifteen to twenty miles to the to where

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the one highway is one fifty five and then to

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the east, you know, maybe about four or five miles

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to age seventy two. So if I if I were

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to go one way or the other and get through

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where they where they did those the logging operations, I

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probably would get into mature hardwoods. The other thing too,

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is it's extremely thick getting through there, So even for

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an experienced person like myself, you know, it would be

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an all day endeavor just to get down into into

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some of those hollows out there. So definitely an interesting spot.

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And you know, well I'll definitely be up there quite

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a few times and you know, until the end of

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the year.

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So good spots, so do youth.

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So do you think that the less dear and more

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bear sightings is her sign? Is maybe have anything to

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do with the seasons, because I know that, like my

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fiance works in an old folks home and there's like

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six years that hang out there.

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But when the win, when it starts to become fall,

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we get.

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Like twenty seven of them because they start impacting out

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of the hunting areas into oh old people have you know,

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like you know.

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The pressure, human pressure does put a lot of into it.

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But up there there's no human pressure. It's very very few.

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I ran into one other hunter and he was he

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was literally two hundred yards from the parking lot, so uh,

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you know, I I got in pretty deep. And those

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two don't you know, if they were up there, they

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wouldn't you know, they're skittish anyway, so they're not gonna,

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you know, come up to us like they wouldn't hear

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in the Poconos. But generally in the fall, though, what

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happens is you start the running season you had in

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the early fall, late summer, early fall, you get what

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we call bachelor groups of buck. So you're gonna get

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you're gonna see And I had these on my on

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my trailt cameras all throughout August where you have you know,

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maybe four or five buck, you know, male deer that

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are going to run together. And then as the cold

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starts going, as the hormone start going and they start

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getting like that big testosterone, then they start spreading out

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the doze. On the other hand, they'll they'll come more

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together and uh and basically form a herd. So uh

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so that's probably what they may be seeing there. You're

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not going to see a lot of buck unless it's

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a at least for now, it's going to be mature, uh,

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you know, alpha buck. That's gonna be with those with

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those does. But you know, like I said, yes, no, go.

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Ahead, Matt, finish that thought because I was going to

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jump another Mike. Yeah.

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And and the one thing, the one thing is too,

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is that regardless of the rut going on right now,

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it's the start of the rut. You know, our witness

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had said he he hasn't seen these deer, he hasn't

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seen the turkey, He hasn't seen the elk you know,

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come through there.

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Every year.

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You know, he basically kept track of Hey, you know

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in October, I'm gonna see a lot of deertown by

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the apple tree. I'm gonna see elk out here by

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the field. Turkey say they come down in the morning.

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He's not seeing anything there, right. So the fact that

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we do have some predators out there, you know.

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We have something out there. Yeah, And I what was

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fascinating about it is we were up at twenty two

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hundred feet Mike. And this is what you know, I

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really wanted to, you know, chat you up with because

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you've been out to that area with us generally, not

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this area specifically, but in a roundabout How far is

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that area they we had them from this.

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You know, the two areas are probably maybe ten miles apart,

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fifteen miles apart. And it's just that, Mike, if you

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remember there, that little two lane road that you know,

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the highway where this is on the far side of

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the highway. You know, this was on the same side

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that we were on we were out with Alex.

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I've already done it. I have already muted myself and yeah, yeah,

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that little two lane Yeah, dive down that road to

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the camp site. Yes, I remember this, I know very well. Yes,

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you know, five miles an hour to fifty five miles

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an hour.

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Right. So what was interesting, Mike, is this guy told

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us we're up at twenty two hundred elevation. He's seeing

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nothing up there. He told us, whatever is up there

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has driven them down to the lower elevation. As soon

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as we hit fourteen hundred feet elevation. What did we see, Matt,

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Deers out the ass. I mean, we had deers, a

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group of almost twenty deers in somebody's yard, Elk turkeys.

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We saw a couple of turkeys yeah, all that wildlife

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that was absent from that twenty two hundred feet out

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exactly where this guy told us it was. And I

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found that to be pretty I think that's what kind

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of got me in the mode for the week on that.

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Yeah, in the night and the night we were up there,

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I mean we ended up up there with you guys

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there in the spring, and it was I mean it

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was snowing that day, so, I mean, and they were

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stool deer moving around. We still had other stuff. You

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guys had olk and everything, and god knows what I

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had coming through, you know when I got up there.

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But you know, when you say ten miles, folks, it's

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ten miles to the nearest gas station, and it takes

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you over an hour and a half to get to

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that ten miles because you know, as the crow flies,

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it's ten miles, it's not the roadway is ten miles.

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You know. When you guys told me, I'm like, yeah,

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it's it's like three hours from my house. It was

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forty five minutes to get to the top of the mountain.

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After we got there. You know, it's absolutely the craziest

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you know, era, I mean, it's when you talk about

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you know the northeast and you know, I just got

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back from the Adronics and I mean there's more more

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pop The population was more up there than what you

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have in that area that I saw, you know, going

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through that area was just it's crazy. I mean it's

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it's a twilight zone up there.

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And and when you guys and when you guys came

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through there.

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The one thing I went to especially put through the

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alex is that was like the big weekend because that

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was opening day of Trouse season and so all the camps,

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you know, most of the camps had people in them,

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and you know, we're going through there, and you know,

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it was it was a shock to hear one car

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going past us, you know, and you know, otherwise, you know,

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everyone's kind of either at their camp or you know,

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it really, like I said, even with a large influx

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of people, it's not a large influx of people like

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you would think going out to the Adironics are going

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to the Poconos in the fall. Here it's you know,

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we're talking. We just had you know, thirty forty thousand

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people in jim Thorpe this weekend up there. You were

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lucky if you had you know, I don't know, maybe

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two thousand people between between two counties, you know, in

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that particular area.

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Yeah, I think it was closer for me to get

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gas to go back into New York than I'll just

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at something in that area. And but man, beautiful, and

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I'm still I'm still kicking myself. I downloaded my drone

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and for some reason it the photos didn't drop transfer over.

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There's still locked on my drone. Oh no, you have

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to figure out all the drones I have at work

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and everything like that and transfer files. No problem, This

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stuff is locked in the cash on the drone. And

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just to be able to the video I have that's

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still on that drone is absolutely amazing, and I have

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to figure ot how I'm going to get off.

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So well, it's the.

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Way to do that.

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You take you take the drone. You make sure it's

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pointing at you proper. You grab a toaster, toaster and

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part in front of it. Okay, then you pick up

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a screwdriver and go give.

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Me the footage.

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Everybody's done. Technical stuff will work for you.

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You know here, I really thought he had a solution

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for the problem.

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I knew where we were going. Yeah, I knew where

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we were going.

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I try once, didn't work until.

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I showed it the screwdriver and he didn't work.

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He didn't work for the geek squad, did there?

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I did?

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Now, I tell you what, guys, this is what we

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deal with every couple of weeks. But it's a good crew.

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So Mike, I mean the area up there, we got

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to get you back up. Some interesting things happening. But

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what's happening in your neck of the woods since we've

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talked last, But out in the field, if you'd gotten

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any new sighting report, so what have you been up to?

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So you know, we ran into you guys quick Pennsylvania

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at Eric Altman's PA Bigfoot Camping Adventure. Met some great

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folks down there, some some new folks to the field.

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I know there's a couple of them listening tonight. We

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uh kind of went over some things, uh some sound

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stuff and this the sounds with folks, getting them interested,

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and I found a whole new sound database. You know,

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are I'm gonna I'm gonna do some selfish plugs. But

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the guys over at Foxbro gave me this great little

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squatch collar and I've been using it everywhere for my demos.

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So if you guys that saw it. But Foxbro has

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a great sound it's actually the Squatch set up. It's

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the Squatch Pro from Foxboro. But they've got a great

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sound library. So everybody that's been talking for years about

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what's hearing in the woods like that over and that's

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a new sound area. You know. I've pushed you know,

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some of the other sound apps like I Hunt calls

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and everything like that. But and that's great for your phone.

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It's just the fox Pro guys have really got a

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nice set of organic sounds stuff that's live from the

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field and pre programming. So if you're doing that kind

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of stuff, and they got some big foot stuff and

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the guys joke about it, and we you know, got

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to talk to them quite a bit when we were

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down there about some sound stuff. So new tech for me. Hey, Seth,

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that's up brother. You know it using that added another

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piece of tech too, Like I said, going to sounds again, Bake,

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I think you and Sean. I showed you this this

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bird weather puck another thing that I started using the

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week before we went down on it to Eric's event.

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It has two audio recorders built in sound and pressure.

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But the nice thing about it is there is a

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whole network worldwide with these things, and if they're live

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and they're public, you can go and look and see

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what they're listening. So it's not only birds. Assuming was

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originally this is you know, you guys know I've been

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pushing Merlin and you know bird dot net for years.

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This is that AI technology on steroids. It runs. I

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don't have to run off my phone. I can run

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on my computer and I can go pull my particular

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unit or other YouTube channels that are watching like all

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the bird the nesting things, you know, like you'd have

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cameraund like the big guy behind me or something like that,

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those sounds they're checking the AI and my particular unit

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I got a hold of the owner of the company

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and it's set up to look for woles and big

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cat kais dogs engine sounds. So now if we go

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up to the top of the mountain and it's got GPS,

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I can set that up there and let it record

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the entire time, and it's doing AI processing of those

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sounds that are out there. So now you know all

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the the owl sounds that we've heard for years and

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some of the other stuff. It'll give me the barometric

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pressure it'll give me the time stamp. It'll give me

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the audio so we can look visually and and and

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listen to it. And if there's other stuff in the background,

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you can hear that engine noise, that car coming through

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that overlap. You know, I'm still gonna run a regular recorder,

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but this thing is giving me a stamp so I

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can see those other things that are there. So like

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if i'm you guys know I'm running, we're in my

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hearing is If I don't have those in, you know,

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I miss some of those lower tones. All those wonderful

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years of diving and shooting, My brains aren't great anymore. Uh,

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And Christy, I know you're in the audience, and please

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don't feed on me too bad, my co host. You know.

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So, so does that run, whether it's connected the net

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or not.

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Is not independent, So it's got its own SD card

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and it is running, and as soon as it gets

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back on the Wi Fi, it uploads. But technology you.

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Were saying, like barometric pressures and things like that, I

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didn't know if it picked that off the web or

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if it picked it off because a lot of times

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we're in areas where there is no signal.

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Yeah, there's sensors in here, but it well, yeah, you

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know that's one thing. Technology is a wonderful thing, folks,

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big thing I've been pushing. You know, you guys are

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asking me what I want to pushing the first aid,

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pushing the technology, haling that satellite communication device. When I

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did go up to this location that that Shawn and

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Matt are talking about, uh, they told me, yeah, we

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got great signal at the campsite.

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Mm hmm.

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And from the time I turned off the road till

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I don't know what it was about eighth of a mile. Well, yeah, no,

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I don't thin here in Banjos. It was either off

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the cliff or whatever. But I ended up having to

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use my my Fi, my mobile hotspot so I could

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transmit to Matt. And actually we're using Facebook to message.

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I couldn't even get the cell signal. I think I

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actually set a text message, you know, to some friends

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and family like if I don't come back from this,

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I do have my camping gear, and you know, I'm

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trying to text Alex and everybody else and They're like,

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we got a big fire. You could see us from

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the road, and I'm like, nope, nope, nope, but having that,

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I tear that technology with me so I can upload.

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I bought a micro computer so I can look at

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these things like the micro computers and Windows eleven computer

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no bigger than my phone, so I can look at

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all that data while I'm in the field. So technology

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has really become a big thing for getting that information

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out there. So it's it's one of those rock and

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things to make sure getting there. And technic, yeah, I

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have lots of technical difficulty difficulties. I can't talk half

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the time, but you guys know that. So so that's

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where run uh after p A ended up going up

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to Whitehall. And just before I went up to Whitehall,

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you know, we've talked about, you know, talking to witnesses

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and doing the paint sample thing, and Matt, you and

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I have talked about using it for law enforcement and everything. Wow,

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I've been so slow on these things, and there's a

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brand new project coming along. But as I got ready

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to go to Whitehall and I'm searching for stuff, now,

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I went and got wig hair samples, so now I

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can have the witness actually build the hair up. Well.

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Calls ended up wearing this at White Hall for a

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little bit, you know, put it over. But the other

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thing can it was it was like hearing you know,

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he's kind of wearing the back of his hat, you

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like a rat tail. You know, we're not gonna get

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into it, but uh, if you're talking to witnesses, you know,

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you again, like we said, go to the box store

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and get your paint sampled, you know, get your paint

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sample chart or your paint sample. But the other thing

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you can do is you can send somebody to the

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local box store or the local grocery store and if

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they're gonna go get their hair dye, you can find

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out what brand and what color hair dye it is.

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And most of that stuff again is going to be

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industry standard wise or niche and wide. You're gonna have

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that same color. So sending somebody out and the hair

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using the hair samples instead of the color charts, you know,

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they're they're actually seeing a physical hair. It's not just

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that color. So like these are all marked for different

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colors for picking these wigs out for this brand, So

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the same thing going to pull out and look at

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you know, Clail or Lorel's hair, hair colors or something

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like that. Or if you got a friend as a

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mutician that might have one of these you know wig

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sample things running around. If you're out talking to witnesses,

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it's great, and you know, that kind of came into Whitehall.

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I ended up talking to a witness who's a veterinarian

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that had another biologist in car, and they said, you know,

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we're out there, we saw everything. You know, I could

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see the gentleman was physically shaken. They had another family

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member that kind of pushed him up to tell his story,

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but that was out of Vermont, so I kind of

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referred him to Alex and Steve just because they're over

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into New Hampshire and you know, or eastern New York side.

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You know. So collecting the data has really begun a

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big push, and because of that, I reached out to

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Scott at Bigfoot Mapping Project and Scott is now going

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to add another layer to his questionnaire where you'll actually

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be able to go in and click on the hair colors.

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So we're just kind of developing that section of his

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website so you'll be able to go and put the

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put your sighting in and click on something. Because when

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we all look at colors, when we look at it

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different depends on our monitor settings or if we have

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a visual impairment, we're all gonna see colors different. So

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we're gonna see those browns different, those reds different. But

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having the ability for somebody to go in and say, hey,

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on my computer, in my you know, a friend person

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and we're doing things, we can go ahead and click

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on that. So in that witness sighting, it's no longer

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going to be just it was red or it was black,

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or it was you know, a cinnamon. And Pat, who's

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in the audience, we got to thank him. Pat was

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the first witness I talked to. He's the guy, first

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person I sent to to go get this. I mean,

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you got carried in there too. We're gonna give her

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another shout out. She is the first person to three

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D scan. So this whole thing about the three D scan.

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She called me one day and said, I don't have

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any casting material. I'm in you know, Massachusetts, I'm in

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the woods. I'm not near a hardware store. She's the

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first person I told the download the app and go

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ahead and three D scan. So that was the first scan.

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Was out there and Mike, that's what we had to do.

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We were caught with our pants down and no casting materials,

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and so we're like, you know what, let's three D

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scan this bitch. Let's go.

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And we did it, you know, and it's the networking,

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you know, finding the trackway Bill when we were at

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Monsterfest together. You know, I've been using a couple of

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different scanning things, Polycam and some of the others, and

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you got it care you know. He Bill shows up

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and he's got wide R on his phone and I

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hadn't used that app. I tell folks all the time

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depends on your phone. Go find a new app and

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communicate with everybody you're with that wide our app. I

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stood there as Eric sat there with his cast and

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I was able to freak hand it not putting it down.

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And the pictures we got. I watched him walk over

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and Dave Wickham had some stuff he three D scanned, nos,

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00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:57.640
we did a whole bunch of other things, and they

460
00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:01.240
were just down in an area where Joe Schneider who

461
00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:05.079
passed away last year and went up on his anniversary.

462
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:09.440
They got some scans. They're probably human footprints, but man,

463
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:14.599
that's the scans using that wide ARC or absolutely amazing.

464
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:19.640
So again, sharing that data is so so important. So yeah,

465
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:22.680
we got up in the d around CKX, you know,

466
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:24.759
looked around for a little bit, got to talk to

467
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:27.039
some great witnesses about some stuff.

468
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:27.880
You know.

469
00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:31.200
It's it's been a kind of a move around lately,

470
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:34.880
and it's trying to put our friends together and collect

471
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.759
data the best we can. You know, I talked to

472
00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:41.599
Darby Orcut from North Carolina State just before I got

473
00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.039
on the call with you guys. That information will be

474
00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:49.440
coming out soon. His his web hosting person or to

475
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:53.400
server and everything. It was in you know, western North Carolina,

476
00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:57.799
so you know, prayers all those folks down there. He

477
00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:01.279
directly wasn't involved, but some of his tech was. So

478
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:03.799
you know, our folks that are out there hunting in

479
00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:06.000
that area. You know, it's reaching out to those those

480
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:08.680
folks that are that are friends that are they're there.

481
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:10.519
So I mean just want to put a little quick

482
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.440
shout out. You know, if you have bigfoot friends in

483
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:14.839
this field, you know, and they know you're they're you know,

484
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:16.359
kind of help them out a little bit. I mean

485
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.440
that's kind of where things have been so well.

486
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:21.119
You know, when it comes to networking, out if anybody

487
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:23.400
does it better than you, Mike, and I'm not saying

488
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:25.680
that because you're a guest. I'm saying it because I

489
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:29.880
you know, I believe that firmly. You really do connect

490
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:32.880
people and you connect resources quicker than anybody I know.

491
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:33.960
Uh.

492
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:36.519
And it really been a true kind of God send

493
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:38.720
to Matt and I as we've really been putting some

494
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:42.039
of this research endeavors together. So thank you for that.

495
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:45.039
Well, I appreciate you guys, you know. And you know

496
00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:47.960
the other thing I really been pushing with this this

497
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.000
bigfoot thing, and it is the benefits of big footing.

498
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.359
It's the friends we make, the folks that we meet

499
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:59.880
across and when when stuff really falls apart, you know,

500
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:05.720
it's those folks we go to. You know, Matt and

501
00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:08.440
I work in a field that occasionally we need to

502
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:10.319
talk to somebody and we need to talk and do

503
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:11.480
things outside of work.

504
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:12.119
You know.

505
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:14.279
I know there's a lot of people watching tonight that

506
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:17.480
I've reached out to at different times that you know,

507
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:20.640
and explain it. This is your way of getting out

508
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:24.519
and you know, escaping your day to day. But you know,

509
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:27.079
it's how I keep my skills up for work, you know.

510
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.519
And I'm looking at the audience here right now, at

511
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:31.759
least who I'm seeing who's comment in the chat. You know,

512
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:35.079
we've got folks right now just pop down from the

513
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:38.599
South Pacific, you know, and you guys should be talking

514
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:42.960
to them soon. You know, Lisa and Juliet from down

515
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.759
there in the South Pacific doing their investigations. Jen's on there,

516
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:49.480
you know, in her connection and introducing me to Joe

517
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:53.799
and Carrie, and Christie's on here. You know, it's we

518
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:57.319
go through life, Paul that's on there. You know, Bigfoot

519
00:28:57.359 --> 00:28:59.599
got us out, got us healthy, got us hiking again.

520
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:02.599
You know, it's it's one of those things that the

521
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:05.279
topic is there for you guys that have had your

522
00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:08.279
witness sightings. You know, that's why I keep doing it,

523
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:12.000
trying to find an answer to what you guys saw

524
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:14.480
and if we can collect that data, that's that's the

525
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.240
most amount of things. Natalie, it's in there from Florida.

526
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:19.839
I mean, she found out firsthand. The community is there

527
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.680
and we can we can help all of us together

528
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:24.759
and stuff. You know, I'm going to give a shout

529
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:26.799
out to people I know, because it's everybody I talk

530
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:28.920
to on a daily basis that you guys to get

531
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:30.920
spammed with all the memes that we get at three

532
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:34.000
o'clock in the morning because I'm older. But the technology,

533
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:36.599
you know, it's there, and if we can share that technology,

534
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.319
we can you know, we can get stuff to pop through.

535
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:44.279
Let's see see a little message in there. Patty's got

536
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.240
some other sightings over there. And again where we're going,

537
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:50.839
you know, for me to go to eastern New York

538
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:52.880
to the ada Arondecks, the Hudson Valley and see those

539
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.480
guys over there, come four hours down and see you guys.

540
00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:00.839
We have to ask this question from our our buddy.

541
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:07.000
So shed some context on this for the listen.

542
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:10.759
Yeah, okay, let me get some apple cider here. And

543
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:19.920
so I had the privilege during the pandemic to join

544
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:23.160
Seth and Alex and the small Town Monsters Crew and

545
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:27.759
Mark in the ad Aronducks to film on the trail

546
00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:33.319
of the Journey. And about four days before we got

547
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.279
ready to leave, I found out I had a kidney stone,

548
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:42.519
and not only one kidney stone, I had two kidney stones.

549
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:49.240
So it gets better. So we go through, we're filming

550
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:53.799
and Alex decides we're climbing a mountain. So I'm climbing

551
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:57.519
a mountain and I am dying and I can't figure out.

552
00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:00.720
I'm like, I've had stones before. I'm not it's you know,

553
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:02.759
we're gonna get through this or whatever and be able

554
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:04.960
to try to pass the stone on the trail. And

555
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:08.079
that didn't go so well. Well, come to find out,

556
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:09.839
not only do I have the two kidney stones, but

557
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:14.599
I had three hernias. Oh gos, So I'm tracking and

558
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:17.000
you guys have been in the woods with Alex and

559
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.920
these guys, you know, and he's like a mountain goat

560
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:23.079
up the freaking mountain. Everybody else is up there. I

561
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.880
got a freaking you know, fire sale going because my

562
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:29.519
entire backpack popped open and I got stuff just falling,

563
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:34.240
and I'm just dying. And Seth has a beautiful photo where,

564
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:36.440
you know in video section where you know it's just like,

565
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:39.000
you know, there's nothing like a pandemic to be the

566
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:40.960
worst shape of your life. And he pans, and I

567
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:43.720
don't think he knew at the time, but there's my

568
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:49.680
overweight body at the time, trudging up this hill. And

569
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:52.079
we get done with this hike. Yeah, we get done

570
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.599
with this hike. And we go to dinner and he

571
00:31:55.640 --> 00:32:00.440
goes to his favorite burger joint, and what do I

572
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:03.759
order I ordered chicken because I'm trying to be healthy

573
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.680
myself and Andy Maski both ended up like food poisoning

574
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:16.000
from the chicken. It was just the craziest. So my man,

575
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:19.279
you know, he gave me a privilege of going there

576
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:21.880
and getting to the top of Hadley Mountain and looking

577
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:26.400
out and that view from Hadley is absolutely amazing. And

578
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:29.480
you know, I made sure when I came back from Whitehall,

579
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:33.359
which is a tough White Holl's a tough one for

580
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:37.039
me because last year I lost my mom. As I

581
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:40.319
was leaving for Whitehall. I I got the message she

582
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:44.200
was in the hostle. And at that same time, we

583
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.640
had Joe Schneider, who I've been out with up here

584
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:53.480
doing uh you know that I met at Whitehall and

585
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:57.720
Joe was he was diagnosed with answer two weeks after

586
00:32:58.160 --> 00:32:59.880
the last time I talked to my mom was go

587
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:03.559
house and it was still on his still telling me

588
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:06.079
he saw something. And I actually went with his wife

589
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:11.000
the other day to scatter. So again, the connections we

590
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:14.599
have in this community is there. Yeah, Christie, You're right,

591
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:16.839
And yeah, I stopped in the middle of the filming

592
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:19.400
to come off the mountain to do our show and

593
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:21.160
to go back up to the mountain with Steve and

594
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:26.240
those guys, and it's again, you know, well I'm just

595
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:28.359
gonna truck through if if I got to be there.

596
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.119
But yeah, that I passed the two stones, got the

597
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:36.359
hernie us back and get back in the woods.

598
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:36.640
You know.

599
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:40.279
And it's it's it's one of those things, you know,

600
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:43.240
it's it's just crazy.

601
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:47.920
Yeah, what a story, man, It's it's it's there.

602
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:50.279
It just seems like every time I'm with those guys,

603
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:53.440
it's like, oh God, what next, you know, m hm.

604
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:58.799
But yeah, you know, it's it's it's crazy. But again,

605
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:02.279
no here for state folks know you're who to call

606
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:04.279
and know where you in years hospital is. I mean,

607
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:07.440
it's it's all you know how to cook when you're

608
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:07.960
in the woods.

609
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:10.559
It's become a big thing, Mike, and I know it's uh,

610
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:14.400
the passion on that has grown tremendously, especially from you

611
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:17.880
and Matt and our buddy Larry Beans Baxter. You know,

612
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:21.440
we're putting together a little thing for the listeners eventually

613
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:26.519
at some point the residual this year for safety and

614
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:28.440
I think we need to spend more time not just

615
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:30.760
the scary bigfoot stories that everybody wants to hear about

616
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:35.519
when they listen to a podcast, but the real inherent

617
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:39.159
dangers and the real what you need to do in

618
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:43.559
case of stories or situations when when they happen, Like

619
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:45.719
we want folks to be prepared, Mike, when they're out

620
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:50.480
in the woods preparing to take on some of these endeavors.

621
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:52.360
It seems easy in theory, right.

622
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:56.079
Well, I mean the thing is, I've got stuff spread

623
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:58.440
all over like I always do because I'm not in

624
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.639
my studio, moved into the spare rooms to the dog

625
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:05.360
can be running around. But you know your first aid

626
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.920
kit has everything you need to go ahead and start

627
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:13.880
your your stuff. I mean, you know me, guys, I

628
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.039
always come prepared with something. But you know in your

629
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.639
first aid kit you've got your gloves, You've got a mask, probably,

630
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:25.360
you've got your tweezers. You know those things that you

631
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:28.639
need to start your your collection stuff is already in

632
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.280
your first aid kit. You know, you guys have seen

633
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.320
me in past shows talk about the flat evidence flags.

634
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:36.840
Matt's talked about evidence flags and how we collect things.

635
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:39.440
You have your tongue depressure in there that you're gonna

636
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:42.079
be able to use to turn around and support yourself.

637
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:44.559
But you can take the white tape medical tape in

638
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:48.199
there and make little evidence flags to mark out that evidence.

639
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:51.159
You're gonna need the pair acord, so put the pair

640
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:53.519
of cord in there. It's cordage that you're gonna need

641
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:55.920
to tie stuff up. It's gonna allow you to do

642
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:58.599
that circle search, to get out there and keep moving

643
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:02.000
that stuff around. So that first aid kit, it's it's

644
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:05.239
already there. You're already gonna you know, as Elton Brown's

645
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:07.360
Food Network says, you don't want a unit tasker. You

646
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:09.800
want stuff that's going to help you when you're out there,

647
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:13.039
you know. And that's yours of doing that search and

648
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:16.480
recovery stuff from working underwater and like, hey, here we

649
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:18.000
put a name on a rock, throw it in the

650
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:21.840
lake and go find it, you know. And I still

651
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:23.679
to this day, I don't know how the instructors got

652
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:25.679
us to do it, but go out and do circle

653
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:29.639
search patterns underwater and zero visibility, and here's the rock,

654
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:31.480
you know, with your smiley face on it. You know,

655
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:34.039
it's it's the craziest thing is to go.

656
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:34.599
You know.

657
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.960
I can't stress the importance of being prepared enough. And

658
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:43.280
usually what happens when you run into an incident. Yeah,

659
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:46.000
when you aren't prepared, yes.

660
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:50.920
Right, I mean little things like well like me like

661
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:54.760
popping my camera, you know, having a tracking guide or

662
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:57.840
having you know I had the other one up here.

663
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:02.199
Yeah it is, you know, the trees and the plant ones.

664
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:04.639
You know, of course I'm green screen in, so let

665
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:06.119
me do it in your friend. You know no one

666
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:07.960
what plants are out there if you need to eat.

667
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.920
You know enough friends over their years that have been

668
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:12.840
on naked and fraid and stuff. And you guys know

669
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:15.960
I hang out with that crow of wonderful folks.

670
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:18.320
I'm gonna die if I have to eat in the woods.

671
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:21.239
I am so mad at a plant identification. Even when

672
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:24.159
I try, Mike, I'm just awful with it. You could

673
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:25.519
just kick me in the head as I get close

674
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:26.480
to that mushroom fork.

675
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:29.760
No boom, I find that one mushroom that will feed

676
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:31.159
me for the rest of my life.

677
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.559
Yeah yeah, I mean, yeah eight there. You know, I

678
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:39.400
got my thousand calories in. But you know, you know

679
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.400
there's I think there's a great uh survivor man with

680
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:44.960
lester out eating like one of the I think it

681
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:46.960
was like a beach nutt and on a beach nut,

682
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:49.960
but it's a beetlenut or something like that. And next

683
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.719
you know, he's puking and hallucinating, and I'm like, oh,

684
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.599
that's what I want in the woods, you know. You know,

685
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:00.280
I have a friend that spent twenty two days, you know,

686
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:03.079
in the Ecuadorian jungle because he got separated from his

687
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:06.440
military unit, you know, and listening to him talk about surviving,

688
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:11.360
you know, in the Amazon, you know, with botflies, eating stuff,

689
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:14.800
you know, crunching on his head while he's in the woods,

690
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:18.519
and Ray's story is awesome because you guys want to

691
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:21.400
talk about Mopingwari and stuff like that. He and the

692
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:23.440
guys in his unit had a mapping Guary sighting and

693
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:26.280
I've talked to those guys, but you know, being able

694
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:33.559
to survive Mopingary the South American Bigfoot. Oh so they

695
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.960
had they had a run in in South America, you know,

696
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:39.639
years ago. So I've talked to three people from the

697
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:42.920
unit and they've all confirmed their story and everything like that.

698
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:48.000
So Mike gets around folks, he gets the stories, he

699
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:51.039
shares the infl with us. He does. We got a

700
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.480
couple of sightings, Mike, I'm trying to right now. I

701
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:58.559
did a presentation last week and a little presentation in Katawissa, Pennsylvania,

702
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.840
in Colombia County where we've had some activity in the past,

703
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:04.440
and one of the guys in the audience was a

704
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.480
state trooper, but he wouldn't get up and share his story.

705
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.480
In fact, it was put together by the magistrate magistrate

706
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:13.159
judge who asked me to come and speak at this

707
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:16.800
event because he liked my presentation and at Gwen's event

708
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.519
and Ilisburg, so I said, yeah, I'll come out and

709
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:21.519
do it. And he was hoping the guy would come

710
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:24.320
up and tell his story. He didn't tell his story,

711
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:27.360
so we're still trying to get him. And what I'm

712
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:31.320
thinking is if he may not want to tell it

713
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.159
in a large group setting, but if I got maybe

714
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.360
you and Matt around, he might be a little bit

715
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.719
more comfortable, like, Hey, these guys are legit and what

716
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:41.360
they do. You know, they may take me a little

717
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:45.400
bit more seriously. So that's where you know, folks, Again,

718
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:48.119
I'll go off in a tangent. Having people of various

719
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.440
backgrounds in your research network really help. It makes a

720
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:56.519
big difference. Some people are just comfortable talking to people

721
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:59.960
of similar backgrounds. It just it happens, especially when you

722
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.400
into the professional the professional fields, right.

723
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:08.199
You know, you guys are making a point there is

724
00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:12.920
that people from all different backgrounds are so important for

725
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.719
this field. You know, we've had you know a lot

726
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:20.400
of conversations offline and stuff like that, and at different

727
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:26.320
conferences and we're dinner and stuff, and that artist is

728
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:28.360
going to show us the panetones. They're going to be

729
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:31.320
able to tell you the color, the hair flow. You're

730
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:33.239
going to talk to again, the beautician is going to

731
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:35.159
be able to say, well, it was a fine here,

732
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.079
it was a kinky hair. That's what I want to hear.

733
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.159
I want to talk to that newspaper person or that

734
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:43.440
that sanitation worker at three o'clock in the morning that's

735
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:46.079
out because they know it's there. That cop going for

736
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:48.199
his don't it at four o'clock in the morning, because

737
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:51.280
that's the only thing that's still open. You know, they're

738
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:55.079
seeing something. But everybody has something to give to us.

739
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:55.519
You know.

740
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:58.519
I want to learn electronics. I'm going to go find

741
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:02.760
somebody with an engineering or like tronics background, because I

742
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:05.800
can think about it, I can't build it. I can't

743
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:07.480
you know, I'm want to find somebody that's going to

744
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:10.360
help me put that technology together. Is it, you know,

745
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:13.599
streaming a thermal camera for twenty four to seven which

746
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:17.760
I have figured out how to do that now, or

747
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:20.639
get that data and share that data. You know, that's

748
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:23.280
the most important thing. Finding somebody like Scott with Bigfoot

749
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:26.920
mapping that that does gis for a living, so it

750
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:29.840
puts a map together. We have a map together. I mean,

751
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:34.360
I've used that Bigfoot mapping project where Google Earth hasn't worked.

752
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:37.719
You know, That's that's where it's got to be. Where

753
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:38.480
we got to go.

754
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:43.199
So well, and that network's growing and I have, you know,

755
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.400
not to put a teaser out there for folks, but

756
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:49.800
I've got a first round of info from a specialist

757
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:52.000
who works in the intelligence field about some of the

758
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:55.559
preliminary data we've sent him. So I'm excited to see

759
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:58.519
what this is going to entail and where we move

760
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:01.800
on from a stack one. And I'm sure you'll be

761
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.400
really interested in it as well, Mike. We'll put together

762
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:08.239
a conference call later on and go over it. There's

763
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:10.039
some interesting things there. We don't want to put it

764
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:11.679
all out there because like I said, every week we

765
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:13.840
do a show we put the Master's class to had

766
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:18.320
a hoax out there, you know, folks listening, and it's

767
00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:20.599
just collateral damage to what we do. Wanted to go

768
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.079
out and talk about Bigfoot, you know, every time we

769
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:25.000
talk about it, we make it easier for folks to

770
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:27.039
go out and try to pull the wolves over us. However,

771
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:29.760
you know, the situations some of us are getting really

772
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:33.960
good when the bullshit detectors are pretty high.

773
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:35.840
The thing is, you guys have been around a lot

774
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:39.000
longer than I have on this, you know, and you

775
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:42.039
guys have seen and I know there's a lot of

776
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:45.079
new folks listening tonight, is you guys have seen the

777
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:47.840
videos and the pictures that have been around for years

778
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:52.880
that do that seven year cycle, you know. And now

779
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:57.360
we're going to add AI on things, and you know

780
00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:59.719
what is that doing. All that is doing is going

781
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:03.639
out and data mining, you know, that information that's already

782
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:06.800
out there. And so yeah, we're going to start seeing

783
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.239
a lot of that thing that's there. And you know,

784
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:12.400
the YouTube channels are kind of cut back a little bit,

785
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:14.880
you know, since the pandemic and everybody's gone back to work,

786
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:18.360
but there's still that recycle with you know, the moderetization

787
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:20.360
on TikTok and some of the other things to get

788
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:24.679
those hits. But folks got to come to you guys,

789
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:28.480
you know, Bay, Henry and and and Sean that you

790
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:30.119
guys have been looking at the stuff a long time.

791
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:34.000
You know, it's reaching out the colzy because the guys

792
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:35.480
that you guys have been around for a long time

793
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:38.480
being a member in Estra and talking to those old

794
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:42.760
members and stuff like that. I got it with Davidcalla

795
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:49.800
there Whitehall and yeah, but you know those are the

796
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:51.519
guys I got to go out in the woods first.

797
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:53.440
You know, folks have been doing it for a very

798
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:58.039
long time, you know, and it's there's the new stuff

799
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.880
is out there, the technology is there. But you guys

800
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:03.000
are my you know, my go to when I need things,

801
00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:05.360
you know, and you know, if I need news articles

802
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:08.840
or something, I'm going to the Sassy and near Carrie

803
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:10.920
to because she's got her background, you know as a

804
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:13.039
library and you know he knows how to search that

805
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.159
data where you know, I can break things.

806
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:18.800
Like I said, oh, it's amazing some of the recall

807
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:21.920
though I was with Stan Gordon a couple of weekends

808
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:25.559
ago now and we're sitting around shooting the shed, having

809
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:30.519
a conversation about some things and just stops before you

810
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:33.000
got that half right, and then he starts going into

811
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:35.800
the story again like he can instant recall in his

812
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:39.159
mind that like Henry Ken, just an instant recall of

813
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:42.800
the that report, of that story, and he just and folks,

814
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.119
I don't mind getting the record set straight for me

815
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:46.800
by Stan Gordon. That's a privilege.

816
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:47.719
You know.

817
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:49.679
I'm getting to hang out with Stan Gordon all weekend.

818
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:51.480
And he told me I'm wrong. I'm gonna love every

819
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:55.679
minute of it, uh, because because it's important, you know,

820
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:58.440
it's it's important to be right in those situations. And

821
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:02.199
you know, he shed more actually in that conversation, he

822
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:04.519
shed more light on the one report than I ever

823
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:09.440
actually knew uh beforehand. And then ironically, as I'm doing

824
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:12.920
that report in Katawissa, I talked to another person who

825
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:16.039
was involved in the same damn sighting, so you can

826
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:20.440
talk about that activity and how it happens. It's so bizarre.

827
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:26.719
That's I want to see Sean, Henry, Stan and Paul

828
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:28.800
Bartholomew together and.

829
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:32.840
That's my brain power for one TV show.

830
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:37.280
Yeah, but I've been in I've been you know I've

831
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:40.119
been in the presence of two of them, Henry, you

832
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:41.480
and I haven't been able to sit in the same

833
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:46.119
room yet, but I mean library, you know, I've managed

834
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:48.360
to look at Prince with Stan you know, live in

835
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:51.880
the field. It's I want to see you guys. You

836
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:55.320
know that's something in you know, the two cops and

837
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.960
will grab Larry and we'll sit back and bang her head.

838
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:03.159
Yeah, you know, listen, I just bring it all together,

839
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:05.800
that's all. That's what I love. I facilitate these guys,

840
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.880
I can. I'm just a fly on the wall then

841
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:11.119
when that happens. But I'll ask questions like I love

842
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:14.239
to get these guys pumped up full of questions. I mean,

843
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:16.199
and we've had some great adventures because of that. And

844
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:18.920
that's what it's about. Somebody asked me last week, like,

845
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:22.199
you've spent thirty years of your life doing this. Why,

846
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:27.840
I just how I just wonder how much less my

847
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.400
life would be if I didn't end up in this somehow,

848
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:34.119
Like I've learned so much about people, I've learned so

849
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:36.920
much about the wilderness. I've learned so much about myself

850
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:41.840
and my own capabilities, and it broughts me and connections with,

851
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.719
you know, people that I'm glad that I got involved

852
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:48.599
in this research and it's it's been a hell of

853
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:51.639
a ride. And Baker I have to remind him. He's

854
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:53.440
always like, oh, I've been this nearly as long. You

855
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:57.159
realize you've been doing this for almost twenty years now, JB. Yeah,

856
00:46:57.559 --> 00:46:59.280
you got to make a decision here. Rather you're going

857
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:01.119
to be a skeptic a believer, you got to share

858
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:01.840
it off the plot.

859
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:03.840
Man, I haven't seen anything.

860
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:06.800
The problem is that everything I see is second hand.

861
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:09.960
And it's not that I don't believe. I believe in

862
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:14.480
the stories of certain people that link with the evidence.

863
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:17.840
And you know, you made a point about AI and

864
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:20.920
I was watching Star Talk the other day and Neil

865
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:24.079
de Grasse Tyson said, AI is going to get to

866
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:27.800
a point where it's going to be so believable that

867
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:31.440
even the person that believes exactly what they see in here.

868
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:34.679
Will not believe it and start doing their own research.

869
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.639
So I think AI, it might not be right away,

870
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:41.519
but eventually it's going to burn itself out because people

871
00:47:41.559 --> 00:47:45.599
are going to be like, this is so ridiculously perfect,

872
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.320
there's no way it's true. And then then read a book,

873
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.280
you know what I mean. And that's where I think.

874
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:54.360
You know, if you think about it, is like in

875
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:56.880
the eighties and in the eighties to the two thousand,

876
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.320
where after the Patti film had gone through and everybody

877
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.760
was like making their own movies and whatever.

878
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:06.519
The people that believe, the people that like were like, well,

879
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:07.159
I see it.

880
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:10.639
This is this has got to be bs you know,

881
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:13.880
started to read about it and started to realize these things,

882
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.199
and started to go to OBC and started to go

883
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:17.280
to all these places.

884
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:21.159
In a way, bad videos made Bigfoot more popular.

885
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.320
I mean, we laugh at Jack Link's jerky, but it

886
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:25.639
puts bucks in the seats.

887
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.800
You know, had that same conversation. Even shows that we

888
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:33.280
might not all find desirable, they get people interested in

889
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:36.440
because of that give them an outlet to feel like

890
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:40.239
they can report because here's the big powers, here's the formula.

891
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:45.840
Without people being involved and people having sightings, there's no Bigfoot.

892
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:49.039
Like we need these sightings to come to us so

893
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:51.000
we can collect the data so we can be more

894
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:54.400
efficient with our time, our energy, our money. None of

895
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:56.360
us are getting funding for this as all comes out

896
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:59.880
of our own pocket. So the better the witness encounter,

897
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:05.119
the more we can actually you know, use that collective

898
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.880
data to to be smarter in deployment. And that's what

899
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:12.400
my ultimate goal is right now. Met Mike, You've got

900
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.559
you know, partnered with Scott from the Mapping project and

901
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.159
you know we're working with our friend that is I

902
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:21.840
think soon to be retiring from the intelligence agencies. Like,

903
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:25.079
it's all about deployment. It's all about getting data so

904
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:27.159
we know, looking at it and so he can put

905
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:31.000
us in the position it says, Okay, Matt, Okay, Sean, Okay, Mike,

906
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:34.360
this is where you need to be based upon what

907
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.079
the evidence is telling us now, like you have your

908
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:39.960
greatest opportunity to get a siting or to have some

909
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:43.880
sort of evidence collection at this time. That's that's my

910
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:48.239
total focus right now is collecting this information to get

911
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:50.519
it to people that can do something with it. And Matt,

912
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:51.960
how long have I been on that. I've been on

913
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.519
that project for since twenty twelve is when I started that. Yep.

914
00:49:56.199 --> 00:49:58.519
He just Mike, you know, just happens to be able

915
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.559
to appoint me in direction with people that better at

916
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.880
it than I am, And that's what I want. I'm

917
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:04.679
not the smartest guy in the room. I'm good at

918
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:07.639
rubbing elbows with the smartest guys in the room.

919
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:09.920
I just know not to shut up. I mean, that's

920
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:16.199
that's my you know, Or is Jens busting my chops

921
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:18.440
of all my Cookies's probably my cookies and camp you know,

922
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:21.840
I don't know if you guys. I baked some of

923
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:28.159
those off in Ohio. And oh and I always in

924
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:30.880
front of calls. I'm always cooking these great oms, makes

925
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:34.000
these omes meals, makes these great sugar and chocolate chip cookies,

926
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:36.280
and bake right in. There's a nice hot when you're

927
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:41.519
out there. Chocolate chip right, Oh yeah, the chocolate chip.

928
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:45.599
And then they got sugar ones too, but yeah, and

929
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:48.119
two of them's perfect to open up. So again we

930
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:50.239
go back to the bait thing. You know who you're

931
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:54.519
gonna leave his bait? You know we're gonna you know,

932
00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:56.920
are you gonna make it the old pork chopped necklaces,

933
00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:59.159
you know, or Chuck's chili.

934
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.000
When you're out there, Oh, Chuck's chili.

935
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.679
Yeah again. Things you learn in the woods. You know,

936
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:06.920
a couple of a couple of bottles of sauce of

937
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:08.960
some ground beef, and you got some of up and

938
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:11.599
couple of cans of beans, got some of the best chili,

939
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:16.320
all those seasonings. Again, that out there, you're bringing animals in,

940
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:20.119
You're bringing other squatchers in. You know, a lot better

941
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.800
than those pheromones ships that Doug put together years ago.

942
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:27.280
From my god, I'll never get that smell out of

943
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:28.480
my nose ever.

944
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:32.679
Oh man. We had some from the original Monster quests

945
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:35.440
like four years ago, were up in the Adirondecks and

946
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:39.760
somebody pulled some of those out. I didn't even touch them,

947
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:42.840
and I still had to stink on me for like

948
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.960
four hours home when I got out, and it was just, oh,

949
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:49.199
my god, the most disgusting, nasty.

950
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:53.840
Yes, I never wanted to touch one because once Eric said, hey,

951
00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:56.119
fork or smell this, and I stuck my nose right

952
00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:59.440
over the I to this day, I still get a

953
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:01.880
whiff of it. I think it was. Oh, it was awful.

954
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:05.400
Alex had some of the new ones. I think he had,

955
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:07.039
like one or two were in Florida one year, and

956
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:10.119
I'm like, okay, was it was bad, but not like

957
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:12.239
those ones have been sitting around for the last you know,

958
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:13.039
twenty years.

959
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:18.719
Doctor Bambine's special juice juice sticks or whatever they were chips, the.

960
00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:21.199
Chips, the chips, orange chips.

961
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:24.920
Yeah, not a good time, folks, not a good time

962
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:25.280
at all.

963
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:31.159
But you know, then again, you know cooking everybody, it's

964
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:36.079
just great. Go ahead. I'm sorry, Yeah, I had I

965
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:37.159
had a quick question.

966
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.440
Now, what kind of equipment as far as for a

967
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:42.199
recording you use in the field.

968
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:48.119
So I'm running the I'm running the puck. I've got

969
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:51.320
to thermal cam two ATM thermal cameras that I run

970
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:56.559
that take still and video. They're kind of working at

971
00:52:56.559 --> 00:53:00.119
like the seven to twenty range with the thermal. I

972
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:01.719
got one of the six forty units in a three

973
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:03.440
forty unit. I've also got to.

974
00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:05.360
What's the cost on the puck?

975
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:13.039
Uh, it's like to something and it's I love it

976
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:14.960
because you can it doesn't just have to going to stand.

977
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:16.800
They got a backpack for it, so locks right in

978
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:21.480
the back of the backpack. I've got a couple of

979
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:25.639
Sony small Sony recorders. I had a cassette recorder, but

980
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:29.880
I gave it to Eli and Alex to decipher some

981
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.320
some of Paul bar found use the old tapes, but

982
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:34.639
I don't think they could figure out how to use

983
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.840
a cassette recorder because you know, they were born before

984
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:40.800
they stopped using them. You know, the rest of us

985
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:41.559
know what they were.

986
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:45.239
But that's something that's starting to pop up now. And

987
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:48.039
not to jump off onto a whole other subject as

988
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:53.280
the discussion. We've had this discussion before, but other people

989
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:56.199
are starting to have the discussion. Now, do you think

990
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:59.840
that there's something that analog catches that digital doesn't.

991
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:03.679
Is it that? And is it some of the technology.

992
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:07.519
So yeah, going to the old you know, graass sales

993
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:09.360
and see if you can find an old tape recorder

994
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:11.519
because even some of the new stuff has got you know,

995
00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:14.199
some you guys would know better working in the tech

996
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:16.800
industry that you know what's out there, but buying a

997
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:22.320
cheap recorder. And I had this talk with with Ron,

998
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:25.239
with Bron moorehead about you know what did they use.

999
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:28.159
I mean that was old tape that they got those

1000
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:31.760
recording on. It wasn't digital. You know, even you know,

1001
00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:35.159
talking with with Tim Shaw, a big paranormal guy. You know,

1002
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:37.280
some of the recorders that he has or some of

1003
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:40.079
those old Sony's and stuff like that, you know that

1004
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:43.920
are coveted because they don't have the filters that are

1005
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:46.119
on there when you get some of the good you know,

1006
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.800
new you know, digital recorders. They're there to pick up

1007
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:53.119
our voices and not all the other things except for cicadas.

1008
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:56.559
They will filter cicadas, you know, it's the only thing

1009
00:54:56.559 --> 00:55:00.400
I think they filter. But yeah, I mean throwing a

1010
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:02.719
good old fashioned memorys tape like you were making an

1011
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:06.920
eighties you know, high school tape or whatever, you know,

1012
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:08.679
your your party mix.

1013
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:10.480
Yeah, yeah, I mean.

1014
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:13.119
That's just it. You've got it. I mean it's probably

1015
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:14.960
gonna be like if you're rerecording over and over again

1016
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.159
like your VHS tapes. But again, what are you picking

1017
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:22.920
up on? That is? And I still live. Listen where

1018
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:26.079
I'm putting a recorder in, I'm running. I have two

1019
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:28.239
of the small Sony speakers that go out either side

1020
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:31.159
of my recorder, and then I'll run my headsets, not

1021
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:33.360
so much now that I'm wearing usually wearing my hearing

1022
00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:36.719
like heavy duty hearing aids I bought, like hunting ones

1023
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:39.559
or something like that. Jen's right, the kiss kiss methods.

1024
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:44.679
Keeping stupid is the way to go. So do you

1025
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:45.199
think some.

1026
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:47.079
Of it has to do with the wave form that

1027
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:50.719
it records on. I mean, digital is the square wave

1028
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:52.800
compared to just a wave for analog.

1029
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:57.039
And I always thought when they condensed the wave, it

1030
00:55:57.199 --> 00:55:58.639
always you always lose.

1031
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:04.480
Some signal, Like, for instance, MP three's are great, CD's okay,

1032
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:07.519
A cassette's pretty good. But if you hear it on

1033
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:10.400
a record a lot of times, that record has the

1034
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:14.360
best possible sound, then all three of them put together

1035
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:18.119
because of just the way that it produces the sound.

1036
00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:25.320
You're gonna make me spend money. Christen's sister just came

1037
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:28.639
out with their fortieth anniversary is Stay Hungry on vinyl.

1038
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:33.119
I might have to go find a you know, I

1039
00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:38.159
know it's completely off topic, but like three times today

1040
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:40.320
I've seen that record come back up again, and I'm like,

1041
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:42.599
that was the first cassette I ever bought because.

1042
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:45.480
You're mentioned in front of Alexa, didn't you.

1043
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:48.719
No, No, I happen to like it, and those guys

1044
00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:51.440
liked it back today. But but again you're right, I mean,

1045
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:55.159
is that the way to go, getting an old phonograph

1046
00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:59.039
and putting that old cylinder out there and see what

1047
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:00.960
you pick up, you know, put.

1048
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:02.639
The way the waveform works.

1049
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:06.840
The thing is is like analog might be adequated, but

1050
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:08.880
the fact is is, like I used to sell cell

1051
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:11.840
phones when cell phones were bagphones, and part of the

1052
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:12.519
reason why the.

1053
00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:14.719
Bag phone worked was because of the way the signal

1054
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:18.440
and the towers work. Our new phones are great, don't

1055
00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:20.239
get me wrong, they do all kinds of happy stuff,

1056
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:22.599
but the towers have to be closer now because the

1057
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:27.440
signal doesn't move as quickly, right, you know, like Motorola

1058
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:29.280
Motorola walkie talkies.

1059
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:31.760
Really, honestly, the only thing slowed him down was the

1060
00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:37.039
curvature of the earth. Yeah, I know, shit, sorry, you know.

1061
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:40.360
But like you know, like this is why we need

1062
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:44.639
your background or somebody else's background. It has it. Again,

1063
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:47.920
I'm a generalist. I try to pick up as much

1064
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:51.960
as I can and try not to buy forty seven

1065
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:54.639
things to find out. But now you're buying this phonogra

1066
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:57.480
thing was the way to go. Yeah, but but again,

1067
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.960
buying a photograph of buying and buying that old crank

1068
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:06.559
you know would wax you know, yeah, old.

1069
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:09.400
Sister would be worth it.

1070
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:12.960
Yeah. But what I'm just saying, it's what do we

1071
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:16.360
have here? You know, you know, I know Larsen's in

1072
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:18.960
the audience from from Central Florida. Bigfoot, I mean, Matt

1073
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:22.840
is an old film guy, you know, and you know

1074
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:25.159
Jen's putting that up there is you know, why haven't

1075
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:27.400
we got some things? You know? Why are those old things?

1076
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:30.960
I mean I'm in kodak Ville. I mean Kodak and Xerox, bouch,

1077
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:34.199
those companies were in my hometown. I mean that that

1078
00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:37.320
old technology. You know, what are we getting? You know

1079
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:40.840
how many times I've told everybody you go from your

1080
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:42.719
color and switch it to a negative. What are you

1081
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:46.920
seeing on the backside? You know, we've we've got some

1082
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:50.000
things there. What colors are again, We're going back into colors,

1083
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:52.480
but we need somebody that's a color specialist to look

1084
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.679
at things because our human eye sees different things and

1085
00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:58.119
different set up. What are we hearing in the sound

1086
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:02.239
thing as well? I mean just talking with my you

1087
00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:05.400
know now I have to use artificial hearing to help

1088
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:08.159
me a lot of times. What are my settings at?

1089
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:10.400
What was the audiologist going to put something in? I

1090
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:12.039
may not be hearing what you're hearing.

1091
00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:14.760
Well, it happens because all those years of damn right,

1092
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:16.679
it happens all the time we're out in the woods.

1093
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:19.239
Hey did you hear that well? No, I didn't hear

1094
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:22.599
that well. I'm not crazy. Well, no, you just don't

1095
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:24.840
hear the same frequency I hear. You know, it's it's

1096
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:29.159
all about you know, identification, honing in and you know,

1097
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:30.159
and again did.

1098
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:32.519
The TV shows do they hear anything? And oh do

1099
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:35.119
you hear that on TV? Well, no, they're using a

1100
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:37.840
microphone to pick up your voice because it doesn't make

1101
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:40.840
good TV if all you got is cracking rocks and

1102
00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:43.960
stones and stuff and brush, you know. And how is

1103
00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:47.360
that little squirrel sounds like a tractor trailer instead of

1104
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:49.840
that bear that you don't hear sneaking up on you

1105
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:52.480
in the woods. I'll shut up for a minute.

1106
00:59:52.519 --> 01:00:00.320
Sorry, you're good, right, But that's tr takes a.

1107
01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:01.400
Lot of valid points.

1108
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:04.360
And like I've always said, with technology is not always

1109
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:09.119
getting the new stuff makes it better, you know, because

1110
01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:11.360
like you have a lot of you have a lot

1111
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:16.000
of situations where you know, sometimes a cheap piece of

1112
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:19.159
technology will work way better than something. And like I

1113
01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:21.199
asked you about the item you had, I said, do

1114
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:24.119
you need the Internet to use it? Because honestly, some

1115
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:26.159
of these areas the internet doesn't work. You can have

1116
01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:29.559
the greatest program on the planet, you know that stands everything.

1117
01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:31.480
And I'll tell you what the dirt composition. And sure,

1118
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:35.119
if you're connected to the web, you know, otherwise it's

1119
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:37.119
a rock, you know.

1120
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:43.480
Mike having flashlights, there's one right here.

1121
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:48.000
There, there might be another one over here. I have

1122
01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:54.480
lost count on how many flashlights I have. There's probably

1123
01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:59.519
seven UV lights in my car at one time. There

1124
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:07.320
definitely to that do multi frequency red green white, UVY

1125
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:14.159
headlamps that do red green, u V blue. So yeah,

1126
01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:18.239
there's I yeah, uh in my view right now, there's

1127
01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:22.440
five flashlights. Where I'm sitting in this room, there's probably

1128
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:23.480
another five.

1129
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:30.480
You know, there's four lights. There are four lights, four lights,

1130
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:34.599
so Star Trek, right, Jennifer, I'm just I'm just talking

1131
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:39.639
flashlights that I can see just by picking my That

1132
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:41.960
was a nerd moment from Baker there, Mike.

1133
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.960
Anytimes somebody tells me there's five lights, I always go,

1134
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:50.840
there's four lights, four lights because the card and then

1135
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:52.719
he kept saying, you know, I'll let you have some

1136
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:54.360
water and you'll go movie.

1137
01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:57.400
Just tell me how many lights are? Like four lights?

1138
01:01:57.559 --> 01:01:57.719
Right?

1139
01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:01.880
Anyhow, guys, we've reached that point of the show where

1140
01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:04.679
we have to say goodbye to this week and went

1141
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:07.000
by quick and we didn't even have a big footballhorn.

1142
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:10.320
Because Vance folks has sent some good thoughts Vance as well.

1143
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:13.480
He's got some family stuff going on. Won't get too personal,

1144
01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:15.840
but just send good wishes Vance Way and hope everything's

1145
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:19.119
going okay for our brother there. We'll have a show

1146
01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:22.760
again in two weeks. Guests to be determined as we

1147
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:25.039
get closer. But Mike, thanks for taking the time and

1148
01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:27.039
jumping on with us. We really appreciate him, and it's

1149
01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:27.519
always good.

1150
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:28.960
To see you guys.

1151
01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:33.639
You're ever at a conference and need a cable, Mike

1152
01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:36.360
probably hasn't.

1153
01:02:36.440 --> 01:02:38.920
That has happened a few.

1154
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:42.840
Times, that has happened to me, Bush pins or Mike's

1155
01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.639
usually the guy that bails you out. Baker, you had

1156
01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:49.920
a pretty good uh post you made today and I'll

1157
01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:53.320
share it with everybody. It was kind of inspirational. It says,

1158
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:57.719
do crackheads say I can't get high today because I'm broke. No,

1159
01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:01.320
they make it happen. Don't let it backhead, hustle harder

1160
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:04.400
than you. And that's Baker's wisdom. I think I stole

1161
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:07.440
that from Amy Booker's wisdom for this.

1162
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:14.360
Don't let anybody said anybody see Amy's live just before

1163
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:16.039
I totally would with Adam.

1164
01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:18.239
No, no, I missed it.

1165
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:21.079
We'll go go watch it. You will be tortured for

1166
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:22.119
the rest of your life.

1167
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:32.880
But watch it after this, Henry take us out, No Baker, Hey, hey, you.

1168
01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:35.400
Never get to see the sights and let you ask.

1169
01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:39.880
All right, you know, Henry, good night, everybody.

1170
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:45.159
I gotta go. You'll be gonna be good, all right.

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