Oct. 2, 2024

EP 112: Swamp Apes Part 4: Marie Dumont

EP 112: Swamp Apes Part 4: Marie Dumont

Florida Researcher Marie Dumont joins Sean and Crew as they continue investigating "Swamp Apes!"

Reference: 
David Shealy Skunk Ape Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmRBUSK_Dsg

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Season 10

Florida Researcher Marie Dumont joins Sean and Crew as they continue investigating "Swamp Apes!"

Reference:
David Shealy Skunk Ape Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmRBUSK_Dsg

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Views and opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch Experience

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do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the host, sponsors,

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or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. As always, listener discretion

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is advised.

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We got someone or something growing around out here?

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Does a legend walk among us working in the forests

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of our world?

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Did you see what it was?

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Was it a person or an animal?

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Or I can't go? Oh, I know it's if my

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thunder light came on and I get happened to glen

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and see this thing running across the yard A good

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sight man or something looks like a man. I don't

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know what it was.

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For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators,

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and witnesses trying to gain insight and proof around the

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existence of this mysterious entity.

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Jesus quite, Karl, Hello, get somebody out here.

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What's going to announce their thought of AMC about six

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foot nine?

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I don't know you he announce there?

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Yeah, I'm walking right out. Oh, okay, hand on her, sir, Yeah,

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got it's bigger?

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Okay, what's he doing here?

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You are?

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We're gonna do you.

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Join us as we continue into the investigation.

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Of the Sasquatch Experience.

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And good evening, every one. Welcome to the Sasquad Experience Monday,

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September thirtieth, twenty twenty four. We've got a great group

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here for you tonight. As you can see a loaded

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screen myself sewn the Fort shot for Cora, Vince Nesbit,

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James Baker, Matt Arner, Henry Main our guest tonight, Miss

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Marie Dumont from Florida. We are so glad to have

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her with us, especially since you know, unfortunately they had

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the awful weather in the southwest of the United States.

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We're so glad you're safe and made through pretty much, Okay.

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Marie, Yeah, I'm alive, say.

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Right, and that's well, thank God for that. But even

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the fact that you're still able to take the time

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and be with us tonight, we greatly appreciate that. Yeah,

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thank you so much.

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Yes, and to see you, guys that.

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We haven't seen you since Tennessee and it's been a

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while since we've been a while and still great energy

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when we met you down there, and we had started

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the swamp Ape series last summer and had a couple

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episodes and what we were doing. I said, we got

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to get Marie on the show, and then we had

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Matt Larson on the show, and then we took a

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break from it, and I said, we got to go back,

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and who better to have than Marie. And because you're

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always popping up on my feed doing something Bigfoot related

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in Florida, so it's great, great to have you with

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us on the program. Before we get to Marie, Matt

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and I had a town hall this week end up

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in Potter County and it was a little I don't know, Matt,

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at the timing was perfect for that or not because

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it was going on at the same time as Whitehall,

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the Whitehall Bigfoot Conference, but we still had a decent turnout.

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We did it go ahead.

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I think I was gonna say Whitehall is more, you know,

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that's an expo that's basically a celebration, you know, for

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the town, for the events that occurred there. What we

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were doing was more of a just a town hall

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for the people in that area, the visitors, you know,

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the people at the campground. So I it went a

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little better than expected.

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And what was amazing was the tip we got before

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the actual conference from a gentleman, we don't have permission

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to use his name, but gave us a tip of

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an area that he's had some experience. So Matt and

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I decided to, well, we're going to try to go

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to this area and a roundabout way and see if

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we can find it. So we took a trip up

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the rugged mountain roads and we saw this offshoot road

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and Matt goes, Sean, how about we go up that road.

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I'm like that, what the hell? Why not? So we're

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going through this road and it's a very tight road

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and Matt and I are like, ah, this is an awkward,

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awkward road, and we get all the way up to

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the top and realized that it was a snowmobile trail

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that we had just driven. So yes, it was a

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little rugged terrain. But we got up there and Matt, well,

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why don't you take it away?

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So we get up there and there's a small area

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that was a circle. Primarily there was a primitive camping

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site that was near there, but it was basically a

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spot where the two the main snowmobile trail split into

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two other trails. And the person that we were talking

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to had said that there had been activity he had

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seen tracks up there in the past. The wildlife just

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within the last two weeks have been out of that area.

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The elk, that your turkeys, you know, any of your

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your you know, your main game, wild game, we're not

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in that area. So we parked the truck by the way,

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my twenty thirteen Chevy Silverado. It's all beat up, all muddy,

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but you know what, it got it done. So yes,

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So Sean is sitting in the truck and I said,

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you know, I'm just gonna take a look around. I

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want to see where these exact trails go and and

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just see if I, you know, there's anything I can

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put together on the map for future investigations. So as

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we're well, as I'm walking, I get down to a

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particular area there was it was mostly gravel in this

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big circular area, but there was one patch of mud.

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So I just am scanning down, scanning down, and I.

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See it.

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And I said, Sean, get out here, and he seriously

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I didn't tell him what it was for. I just said, Sean,

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you need to get out of the truck right now

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and see this. And it was absolutely, absolutely amazing.

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I was trying, but I was muted. What I was

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saying is you had this sense of urgency in your voice,

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and it threw me off because you know, Matt's normally

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level headed and he doesn't get you know, excited. He's like, Sean,

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he need to come look at this, and I'm like,

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what the hell is going on? So keep in mind,

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this is the only trip Matt and I have been

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on where we didn't bring a side arm or a

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I didn't have any kind of knife or anything with me,

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So I'm already feeling a little underwhelmed and underprotected. So

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I'm like, what are we getting into? So we go

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out there and he stops me, and they looked down

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and well, we had an expletive moment, and I said, Matt,

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except that's a print right there in front of us,

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and I'll pull the picture up right now. Right there

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in the in the dirt yep was a print. And

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now one of the things we look for because of

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it was well, if there was one, maybe there's more.

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So we scoured that whole air and the only thing

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we could think of is because of the side of

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the size of the stride, it was right foot gravel,

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left foot mud, and then right foot gravel again because

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that area that you saw there that created that mud

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that was tire tracked, so tires had ripped that up,

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and that was the only spot there that had a

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lot of mud. And so we were a little under

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prepared this time, Matt where we not shame on us,

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I know, I know, we didn't have any plaster with us.

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So we did the next best thing we could, which

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was three D scanned it. So we took a three

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D scan of the app we measured it, We put

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some scale out there with a map that we had,

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and I mean, as we go through and we'll get more,

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we'll post more up, we'll have a hole written frame floor.

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But then came the vocalizations.

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Yes, So what happened was we we were there at

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that spot for a while and we're looking at the

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print doing everything we could. We hit it with the

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light ar we we went and you know, we didn't

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have the my normal measuring devices, but I was able

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to measure it using our cell phone. That came out

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to just a hair under fourteen and a half inches.

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So a buddy of mine set, oh my god, that's

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like a size twenty one shoe. So unless somebody up

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there was walking around with a size twenty one shoe

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barefoot in the mud. You know, it's pretty good there.

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So we decided then to we were going to take

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a drive, and the particular mountain range that we were on,

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there was a number of pool offs that we could

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go through do some call blasting. So we went through.

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Every couple of miles, we'd stop, turned the car off,

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sif for a little bit, we might do a call,

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we might not do a call, just kind of seeing

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what what was going on. And I said, you know what, Sean,

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I said, let's go back to that spot. And uh,

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I'm glad that we did, because we came back probably

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about an hour hour and a half later. Again, no

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other people had been up there.

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Oh, we passed one car along along about a twenty

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mile trip, so so there wasn't and that car wasn't

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on this particular road. It was on the main forest road.

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So uh, back on that on that forest road that

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we went on to get to the snowmobile road, Uh,

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there was there was no other traffic. So we go

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up there and I said, you know what, Sean, I said,

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let's do some call blasting here. And the way that

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the the way that the mountain is to the north.

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It's a big valley. So if I'm in the direction

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of the north and I do a call, uh, you know,

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Sean will tell you that those calls are echoing, they'll

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go for miles.

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They will oh absolutely, they will just go. There's nothing

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stopping them.

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So I said, you know what I said, Normally I

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was doing an Ohio call. I said, you know, I'm

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gonna do a do a whoop. And unfortunately for me,

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when I did the whoop, at the very start of it, yeah,

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I I I kind of went yeah, yeah. My voice

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kind of went so uh. So it was kind of

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like a half whoop. But then we had a return

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vocalization like a high pitch, almost like a screen. But

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it wasn't It wasn't a fox. It wasn't it wasn't

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a Bobcat, which I I know those calls and and

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they do sound like like people screaming.

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This was a little more and all. So it was

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not an elk.

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Yes, and we led and we rolled that out too,

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So we had something uh. And that would have been

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to the east of US. I don't know how far

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that that would have been away. I would say maybe

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about a half mile to a mile. It might have

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been a little closer, but as I did a few

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more calls, we didn't pick it up on the on

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the recorder. But after the second call I did, I

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was I heard something that was very similar to an

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Ohio call. Ohio how from and this might have been

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from about three or four miles away. It was, and

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it was to the north, and it was just so faint.

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There was a little bit of wind, but this was

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different from the wind. This was a long duration call

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and it was again different from the coyotes coyotes up there. Yes,

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some of the out is we'll we'll make that longer call,

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but for the most part, we're getting the gips in uh.

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That's what in fact, actually Sean Sean recorded some uh,

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some coyotes leader in the night. I did yes from

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my camp.

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So yeah, that was a way too. So you know,

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Matt and I will do more on this as we

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go through. We just wanted to give everybody an update on,

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you know, the excitement we did have over the weekend

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because Matt and I have been going out to this

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area for a long time and it's been relatively not uneventful,

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but we've had a few things here there. This is

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the first time we've had significant activity. So needless say,

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it was a good time. But tonight's shows not about us.

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It's about Marie and it's about Florida and Marie. We're

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glad you spent some time with us listening to our

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eventful weekend. But more so, my first question that we're

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going to have for you is how did you get

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started in all of this?

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Okay, So I've always been a paranormal investigator for like

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over thirty years, and I started out with ghost hunting

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and aliens and UFOs. And I had some friends who

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were interested in a bigfoot and I was like, Eh,

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I don't know, and so but I was like, Okay,

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let's go hiking. So I went to the O'calla National

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Forest with some friends for a one night camp out.

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It was in January. It was about six years ago,

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coldest night of the year. We're all around the campfire

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and about one thirty in the morning, me and two

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other people were standing off to the side and we

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heard this loud, incredible vocalization, the long, lengthy that kind

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of takes incredible long capacity to do. It was just

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loud and there was only one, only one vocalization that

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was it, and we all just looked at each other

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and we're like, oh my god. So I was like,

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oh my god, they do exist, you know. So that's

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when that's what it did. I was like, I want

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to be the one to prove that they exist in Florida.

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And so that's what started me on this journey.

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So how that how that happens? Right, we go out there?

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So you really weren't a die hard believer, did you?

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And the you had never heard of vocalization before? Or

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is this just something that that's pretty cool?

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First one? And it it'd be if you're trying to

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find a similar vocalization, it'd be what's called the classic

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Ohio bigfoot call. That's exactly what it sounded like.

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One it might be new.

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It was amazing and it was maybe maybe a half

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a mile away, corner mile away. It wasn't that far,

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but it was super loud, and just one, just one.

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That's it. But Okalla National Forest is a hotspot, it's

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one of the hot spots for bigfoot.

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For folks who may be new, the Ohio Bigfoot sound is.

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We compare it most of our vocalizations to that, because

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that seems to be the most common. You know, vocalization

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that seems to go everywhere. Don't you find that interesting

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in itself? Marie, That like it was captured in Ohio,

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but you're hearing it in Florida. We're hearing it in Pennsylvania,

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which isn't that unusual, but they're hearing it all over

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the place where these settings are reported.

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Absolutely, and Florida's number three for the most reported bigfoot

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sightings in the country, right and.

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Now, Florida, do you prefer bigfoot or skunkcape?

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I tend to think we have both.

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the the species of bigfoot, That absolutely.

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That's based upon reports of what we have read and

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heard about South Florida, like Tampa area, Mid Florida is

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right center right, so everything's south of us so Mayaca,

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which is another hot spot.

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Mayaca all the way down the Everglades. The reports are

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totally different than anything North Florida. And the differences are

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it's a creature that is five to seven feet tall,

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very thin, long length, lengky, not not much hair on them,

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and they have four toes. And the reports north of Tampa,

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Tampa and north are the typical big six to nine

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feet tall, cinnamon color more more, bigger in five toes.

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So there there seems to be a difference in these

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different areas. So that's why we think we have both

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here in our stage now. For these area is affected

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by the recent storms, yeah, some of them, all the Everglades, No,

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the Everglades is totally flooded right now. I was just

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there this weekend, and so I just wondering.

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Because I wondered if if the sightings peaked more when

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we had storms, because I know, displaced animals will run

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for shelter and no matter what they are, you know,

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I mean, and I didn't know if there were more sightings.

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I realized everybody's still picking up the pieces, so you

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might not hear anything for two months, you know. I

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was just trying to see if it was a displaced area,

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was where you know, you could kind of look at

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an epicenter.

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And that was something I asked in my group, you know,

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I was asking team members what they felt, you know,

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during a storm, do you think that they evacuate to

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a safer, dryer area in Florida or do they stay

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in their area and they just hunger down or they

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hide somewhere underneath the big root ball or right right

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in all caves or something like that.

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I guess the question would be is whether they see

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it coming or not?

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Right like what they like? Those animals can the sense

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storms coming on?

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Right? Yeah, barometric pressure is usually key for for the animals. Right.

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Yes, they don't have weather radar by any means, but

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the barometric pressure change kind of tips them off to

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we need to move to a different location. But they

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have a minimal amount of time before they sense that

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barometric change. And you know how look, the last I

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heard today, there's over one hundred people that are missing

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from the storm. I don't know how many of these

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creatures may be missing from the storm.

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But if we talk from an intelligence factor, if a

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lot of the researchers say that they observe what we do,

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and they may mimic that idea.

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Okay, all the local humans seem to be moving out,

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maybe we should, you know, right go to the summer place.

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Well, you know, and that was you know, kind of

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in a good vein of thought here, James, And it

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would require some historical looking back and seeing. But you know,

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the one problem with people preparing for these storms is

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that you're so focused on what you're doing and trying

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to get your activities done and hunkering down, are you

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really paying attention to everything else going around you? So

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even if there is a max exodus of moving animals,

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are you're really paying attention? You know? Is anybody really

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going to see it? And but I think, you know,

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I wanted to say, going back and like looking around

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big storms, Marie, like Hurricane Andrew, and you know, if

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we can go back and look historically at that data,

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were there any reports that happened well before that, you know,

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or or after. You know, these things affect people very personally,

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and it's hard to you know, really try to take

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a tragic situation like this and bend it into something

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research related. But is that data there? And we're just

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afraid to ask those questions? I mean that, you know,

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as we move forward, I'm sure you'll start hearing more,

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more encounters and more stories. And yes, it's interesting. It's

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just sad that, you know, people we have to experience

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these things to begin with. But you have spent a

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lot of time traversing the swamps and the everglades and

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the forests of Florida.

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What's been for five years.

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You do. And that's why I wanted to get you

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on the show, because you put the boots on the ground.

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And what's been your most impressive thing you've taken away

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so far? Have you gotten footprints? Have you gotten you know,

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what's been your biggest piece?

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You're talking to here. So my my favorite story, encounter,

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whatever you want to call it. In February, I went

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camping with my team and Mike Famelot from a Shadow,

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Big Red Eye. He's in New Jersey and whenever he

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comes to Florida, he always meets up with us. We

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always go out together. So he picked Jennings State Forest,

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which is just south southwest of Jacksonville. It was in February.

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It was a three day weekend. We were doing so

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Ruby and I were camping car camping in one spot,

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Mike and Chris and Kaylin were intense in another camping spot,

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and then Mike was on the last one. So we

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got there Friday. It rained real lightly. That has stopped.

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We met some people who were volunteers in the area.

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And you're not supposed to be You're not supposed to

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leave your tent site after sunset. You're supposed to stay

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in your campsite. You're not allowed to go anywhere else

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in the woods. That's just the way the stupid state

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for us are here. And so but we met these

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people and they're like, we'll take you out, and we're

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like hey, yeah. So it was like eleven o'clock at night.

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We just followed them. They took us to this location.

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It was it was it was. It was close to

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the para lines out there, and so they just like stopped.

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We got out of the car. It was like a

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dirt service road. It went to the left and the right.

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So everybody was just standing there talking, looking, you know,

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not really looking around. I'm like, I'm going to look around.

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That's what I'm here for, right, So I had a

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little flashlight with me and I look to the right

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that trail. That road looked too open, boring, blah blah blah.

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But the other one looked nice and creepy. It had

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a dark canopies. It looks like a tunnel. And I

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was like, oh, that's where I want to go. So

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I have my little flashlight. I'm just walking down this

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service road. And in Florida, we have sugar sand, you know,

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which is basically like a beach sand and maybe mix

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a little bit of clay or something. So it looked

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like it was freshly tilled, not too long ago. So

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it was kind of chunky, but still sugar sand. And

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remember I said it lightly rained, so it was kind

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of padded down. I'm looking with my flashlight. I'm just

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walking along and then i see what looks like a

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footprint and I'm like, whoa, what is this? And then

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I look around my flashlight. I find another one, and

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I'm like, oh geez. So I call my team over.

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I call Ruby and everybody come on over. I said,

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I think I found Prince. So anyway, I found a

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quarter mile trackway of prints, sixteen sixteen inch prince with

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a fifty four inch stride wo a mile. So we

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you know, we took the measurements, we took photos, videos,

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we did three D scans of it, we did we

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did every we casted it, we did everything that we

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possibly could. But the next morning but anyway, I digress.

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But let me go back. So I everybody's like, yeah,

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these look like friends. But it's midnight now, and we're like, okay,

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let's just put a couple of sticks here. We'll come

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back in the morning, and then we'll look at them better,

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right and follow them. We go back to the campsite.

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I get in my car, Ruby gets in her car,

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you know, and I'm laying there in my car and

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I cannot sleep. That's typical first night anywhere. I can

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never sleep. So I'm laying there, probably around four in

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the morning. I have shades on my windows and everything.

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I hear something by Pete walking next to my car

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on the driver's side, walking back and forth, back and forth,

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and it was just like boom boom, boom boom. And

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I'm very skeptical, and I'm like, is that Ruby? What

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is Ruby doing walking so heavy next to my car,

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you know? And and so I kept hearing it, and

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I'm like, what what, What's this? And then it pushed

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my car. It pushed the back of my car where

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I was at it. It just nudged, it just pushed it.

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And I was like, I was like, oh shoot. And

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then again I'm still thinking of Ruby, Why is Ruby

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bumping into my car? Because I was still I'm being skeptical.

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That's how I am, you know. And so the next morning,

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you know, I get up, I go to Mike and

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Chris's campsite to get some breakfast. Mike comes out of

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his tent. He's like, like, oh man, we didn't sleep

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at all last night. There was something big and heavy

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by Peter walking around our tents and I was like,

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oh my god, so something did it see me out there?

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Did it see us out there and follow us back

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to the campsite. Oh?

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No.

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So the next morning we go out there. That's when

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we tracked it. It was a quarter a mile. It

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ended at a creek. We couldn't get through the creek.

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I'm sure it continued, but we couldn't get there. And

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the prince, because it was sugar sand, they were like

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deteriorating and stuff like that. So we took the best

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prince and we casted them. And so it was. It

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was incredible to have all of that happened in less

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than twenty four hours. Fine print, and then you have

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something walking back and forth next to my car, my

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brand new car, and push my car, push me.

459
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:05.559
Well, I asked if you had anything significant? I think

460
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:06.319
that qualifies.

461
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:13.119
Yeah, it's pretty significant. Yeah, And so I my story

462
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:18.759
made the Bigfoot Times March edition. Daniel Perez made that

463
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:25.880
the cover story, and I decided to report it to

464
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:29.720
the bf ro O and because I wanted another credit

465
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:34.359
for Florida, right, and so he just shared it like

466
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:35.559
a month ago.

467
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:38.079
F R.

468
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:42.319
Yeah. So he had one of the investigators went out

469
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:46.039
to check out everything that I said. I gave him

470
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:50.119
the GPS coordinates and everything, and he says, everything matches

471
00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:53.559
up perfectly, and he measured We estimated it was a

472
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.759
quarter of a mile. He actually measured it. It was

473
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:58.519
exactly a quarter of a mile.

474
00:28:59.000 --> 00:28:59.599
How about that?

475
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:00.359
Yeah?

476
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:01.799
Nice?

477
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:05.440
Yeah, So the like when the man the guy who

478
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:10.400
investigated it is a physician, he's an actual doctor, a physician.

479
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:13.559
He does this on the side, and so you know,

480
00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:17.200
he made a full report, he checked everything out and

481
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:20.680
he said, you know, to him, it's legit, you know.

482
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.920
And then Matt Maneymaker decided to post it to share it.

483
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.480
I have a quick question for you. You stated that

484
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:31.240
before we take our break. Uh you stated that it

485
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:35.160
was a quarter mile. What happened after that quarter mile?

486
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:38.480
Did they just vanish or we could.

487
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:42.480
We couldn't go any further. It was a really deep, deep,

488
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:46.279
deep deep creek. We couldn't get across. We could not

489
00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:49.640
get across, so it probably continued.

490
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:51.720
Okay, lost in the terrae.

491
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.839
Okay, we couldn't. We could not get any further.

492
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.000
I appreciate that thing, right, folks, Stick around. We're gonn

493
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:02.160
to take our mid show break. We've got Marie here

494
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:05.880
from Mid Florida Bigfoot Research Group. Great encounters. Stick around, folks.

495
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:09.720
You're listening to the Sasquatch experience here on Facebook, YouTube

496
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:12.000
and X catch you on the flip side.

497
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:14.359
Are there aliens at Area fifty one?

498
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:18.720
I think that might be a question that I get

499
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.279
more than any question four or five guys. I've interviewed

500
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:27.359
solid people, great pilots for the US Air Force, et cetera.

501
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:31.039
They've seen things that they cannot explain. If in fact

502
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:33.160
there are aliens, would you be willing to put tariffs

503
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:34.039
on them to help a coupe.

504
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:36.480
I'm not just gonna.

505
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:37.079
Fly down in.

506
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:42.599
Here news team a symbol.

507
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:50.319
You don't know what a furry is, Do not feel stupid.

508
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:53.519
I didn't know until three years ago. I was sitting

509
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:55.960
in a San Jose Marriotte bar.

510
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:58.119
It was attached to the convention.

511
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:01.200
Center, and it was my day off, and all of

512
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:04.640
these people in elaborate animal costumes started coming in and

513
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:08.440
I was like, Wow, they're impressive, right, And I in

514
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.200
my mind, I thought, oh, it must be a.

515
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:16.799
Mascot convention, you know, because they work alone, they probably

516
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:19.200
like to get together and complain about work like we

517
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:21.559
all do.

518
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:24.119
You know. I wonder if we could get a gilly

519
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:28.440
suit convention at a bigfoot conference. Henry, get on that.

520
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:33.799
We'll have it be held in Mississippi. But some interesting

521
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.519
things would come out of that little party. Well, happy

522
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.000
Monday night to you all, thanks for joining us here

523
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:43.599
on the Bigfoot bullhorn. Right here at the Sasquatch Experience.

524
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:49.400
And there was a bigfoot encountered in southwestern Mississippi. According

525
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:53.519
to the Cambria Freeman, a similar creature had been seen

526
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:58.599
near Vicksburg a year before. In the former incident, some

527
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:01.640
hunters were following up pack of dogs hot on the

528
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:06.319
trail of an unknown animal when they discovered a footprint

529
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.079
in the mud, and it appeared to be similar to

530
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:13.000
that of a track of a human foot. They observed, though,

531
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:17.160
that the toes of one foot seemed to be turned backwards.

532
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:22.000
When the dogs finally bade their prey, the men beheld

533
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:25.680
a frightful looking creature of about the average height of

534
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:29.640
a man, but far greater muscular development, and it was

535
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:34.279
standing intimidatingly in front of the dogs. It had long,

536
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.640
flowing hair from its head reaching down to its knees.

537
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:41.559
Its entire body also seemed to be covered with hair

538
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:44.920
of two to three inches in length, which was of

539
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:49.359
a dark brown color, and from its upper jaw projected

540
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:55.359
two very large tusks several inches long. The sasquatch ran

541
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.839
towards the Mississippi River when the men advanced, but the

542
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:01.720
dogs once again and bade him at the river bank.

543
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:06.039
When the dogs did attack, it reached forward and grabbed

544
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:09.640
one of them, pressed it against its tusk, and pierced

545
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:13.759
through it, and killed it instantly. The hunters fired several

546
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:16.880
shots at the creature, and it jumped into the river

547
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:24.000
and remained submerged for several minutes. Suddenly it surfaced, uttering shrieks,

548
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:28.960
which almost petrified the pursuers with terror. No similar sound

549
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.559
had ever come to the ears of the men, who

550
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:34.880
were familiar with the howl of a wolf, the whine

551
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:38.519
of a panther, and the horse bellow of an alligator.

552
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:42.640
After sinking and rising several times, it swam to the

553
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:48.640
Louisiana shore and disappeared some time later, other wild men

554
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:54.359
were reported in Vicksburg and Meadville. Yes, I did use

555
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:59.319
the term wild man, because folks, the cambriy of freemen

556
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:04.200
rode this article back in eighteen sixty eight. That's one

557
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:08.239
hundred and fifty six years ago. Much of the description, though,

558
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:12.199
is very similar to what we get reported today, with the.

559
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.559
Exception of the tusks.

560
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.719
Leave an opinion as to what you think, because I

561
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:24.639
found that a pretty creepy encounter. When we come back,

562
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:33.039
we're going to take a close look at Tennessee. You're

563
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:35.360
listening to the big football hunt right here on the

564
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Sasquatch Experience. It's not Dockers, it's god Knockers. Hey, have

565
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566
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568
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569
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575
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576
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Knockers Dot o RG. Well, what is happening on October

577
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:10.559
nineteenth of this year. Yes, it's the Upper Cumberland Bigfoot Festival.

578
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:15.079
Of course, this is Crossville's fourth annual Bigfoot Festival. So

579
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.239
come and hear some good music and enjoy some stellar entertainment,

580
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:21.599
and of course you want to learn about one of

581
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:26.199
the most elusive and intriguing creatures of the woods. Yes,

582
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:31.000
there's something for everyone the Bigfoot Festival, and we can't

583
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:35.039
wait to see you there. We're also very excited to

584
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:39.480
announce the cast of Animal Planets Finding Bigfoot, and they

585
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:44.440
will be coming Cliff Berrickman, Matt Moneymaker and of course Bobo.

586
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:47.840
It's always such a thrill to hear from these gentlemen.

587
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:51.119
We're also excited to announce that we have booked Mike

588
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:55.480
Schneider to come out and perform too. Come listen to

589
00:36:55.559 --> 00:37:01.679
some hilarious comedy and some stellar banjo play. You may

590
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:06.039
remember Snider from his days on Heehaw, as well as

591
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:11.159
his performances at the opry Land Theme Park again Upper

592
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:17.519
Cumberland Bigfoot Festival on October nineteenth, twenty twenty four. The

593
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:23.159
address for this event is thirteen ninety eight Livingston Road

594
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:29.480
in Crossville, Tennessee. Thanks again for listening to this edition

595
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:33.480
of the big Foot Bullhorn right here on the Sasquatch

596
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:38.760
Experience and as always, until we meet again, keep your

597
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:39.639
toe in the mind.

598
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.440
Thank you Van for the Bigfoot Bullhorn this week. Some

599
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:57.480
events out there, check them out, folks. Always great to

600
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:02.440
support these, you know, wonderful events. They keep us interested,

601
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:04.119
they keep us going back, and we always learn a

602
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:07.159
little something from them. One that did not make the Bullhorn,

603
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.679
of course, is the Albo Twitch Festival in Columbia, Pennsylvania.

604
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:15.280
That is this weekend October fifth. I'll be there with

605
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:18.239
Lon Strickler doing a live podcast. We don't know we're

606
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:20.199
gonna call it yet. We're gonna have a good time.

607
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:23.840
But there's some great speakers, Eric Altman, Rick Fisher from

608
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.400
PA Paranormals putting on the event, so it's always a

609
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:30.559
good time. I was a speaker last year. Albatwitch Day

610
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:34.960
dot com for more information on that event. So with that,

611
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:40.480
we're back folks, Sean Forker, James Baker, Henry May, Matt Arner,

612
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.199
Vance Nesbitt, and our guest tonight, Marie Dumont from the

613
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:46.880
Mid Florida Bigfoot Research Group. We had this great story

614
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:49.519
from Marie right before we took a break of some

615
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:53.079
of her significant encounters. Marie, if you'd walk us through

616
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:55.800
a little bit some of the sightings you've had that

617
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:59.159
you've investigated that have really made you without a question

618
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:02.880
of doubt besides your own no doubt Bigfoot exists in Florida.

619
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.599
I mean, I've seen all kinds of things. I have

620
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:12.800
not had a visual writing, but I've had everything else.

621
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:16.960
I've heard the gibberish. I've heard the gibberish in the Everglades,

622
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:28.039
you know, I've just vocalizations, footprints, crazy structures, gifting stuff,

623
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:32.119
stuff happening in our gifting area. I mean, you name it,

624
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:35.960
we've had it, you know. Shoot, Like I said, we're

625
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.280
out every weekend and have been for the past five years,

626
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:44.000
so we do tend to find things. I'm very detail

627
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.920
oriented and most of my members of my team are,

628
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:52.159
so we notice things that probably most people wouldn't and

629
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:56.119
you know, we're not saying anything is bigfoot either, because

630
00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:59.039
we don't know. We didn't see what made these things.

631
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.320
So we just say that, oh this is interesting. You know,

632
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.960
here it is. We just present it according to how

633
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:08.599
we found it.

634
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:12.159
You know, now, Marie, you talk about gifting. What are

635
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:14.239
some of the things you use? What's the techniques you

636
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:15.639
use during this process?

637
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:21.159
Oh boy, what is the bribery? Huh? Well, most people

638
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:26.360
don't agree with all things. There's things people say and

639
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:29.400
things that people don't agree with. And so one of

640
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.840
the things our biggest thing is peanut butter re See's

641
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:36.119
peanut butter cups. We've had the most success with that.

642
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:40.440
We were down south camping out with some friends of ours,

643
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:43.880
South Florida by Leake Okachobe, and just for the heck

644
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:47.639
of it, Mike had five little mini Receiz peanut butter

645
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:50.599
cups and he put them on a bench that was

646
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:54.000
out there, just for the heck of it. Next morning

647
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:58.000
we go out there just look, they're all gone, and

648
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:02.159
a big mushroom is left in this place. Right.

649
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.960
So, I don't know if that's a fair trade.

650
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:09.719
Not exactly, maybe just covered.

651
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:12.079
But I mean I like mushrooms. But I much prefer

652
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:13.840
wasn't it?

653
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.599
Was it an edible mushroomer? Was it a kill you?

654
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:22.280
Mushroom's killing you? Mushroom? I don't know everything in Florida.

655
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:23.440
I'm just trying to see it.

656
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:25.920
Ted here, Hey, you gave me candy, Now I get

657
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.199
to kill you.

658
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:30.880
Yeah. I don't try mushrooms at all. I just like

659
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:38.760
finding them. They're really so and I had a questions.

660
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:43.639
Peanut butter cups and and peanut butter were the best

661
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:46.320
things for us. They have been. We've had the most

662
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:50.519
success and some people don't agree with it, but that's,

663
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:53.159
you know, that's just the way it is. We put

664
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:57.199
off fruits and stuff, but the peanut butter is what

665
00:41:57.320 --> 00:41:58.000
really gets.

666
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.719
Some Our birthday boy, Steve Hydees is he don't care

667
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:01.480
for that trade.

668
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:06.960
Yeah, not exactly fair, but it was exciting because we're like,

669
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.159
holy crap, we just did it for the heck of it.

670
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:14.320
We didn't expect anything to happen like that overnight, right.

671
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:17.119
Well, you know, and to Baker's point, Marie, maybe that

672
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:19.400
mushroom was their way of saying, here's a you know

673
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:21.760
that you like this, We like this.

674
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.719
This is our treat exactly exactly. That's how we took it.

675
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:28.840
Or die and get off my property.

676
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:36.480
Get out of here, the old man Baker tactic. Baker,

677
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.360
you had a question this, I had a question. Me

678
00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:41.280
and Forker been talking about this for years.

679
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:45.719
And I know that Florida, the Everglades, from Florida to Texas,

680
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:49.079
there's a lot of misplaced animals. And I know that

681
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:54.119
there's reciss monkeys and some other primates. Have you run

682
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:56.920
into other primates while looking.

683
00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:57.679
For this primate?

684
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:01.920
I have not, No, Okay, I know if there was

685
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:04.119
other primates signed in that area, because I know when

686
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:08.119
you get into the Everglades there's there's primates that shouldn't

687
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:09.400
be there, because.

688
00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:12.320
You know, somebody brought it across on the some ship

689
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.800
years ago, or or some zoo closed down and they

690
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:17.320
just let a cage open.

691
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:17.760
You know.

692
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:21.960
Yeah, And I'm sure I was still filled with and

693
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:27.800
I'm sure there are Okalla Silver Springs. That's where there's

694
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:30.119
a bunch of monkeys there when they used to film

695
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:35.519
the Tarzan series and stuff. Well, Okala National Force is right,

696
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:39.239
but's up to it, so of course, you know, and

697
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:42.039
the monkeys can swim so they can leave the island.

698
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.719
And when they brought them in, they didn't know they swam.

699
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.679
They put them on an island. I thought they were

700
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:51.239
going to stay there and they ended up swimming away

701
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:55.119
and so there and all that kinds of stuff.

702
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:57.639
Because we had had that discussion about like a lot

703
00:43:57.679 --> 00:43:58.360
of times, like.

704
00:43:58.320 --> 00:43:59.960
When animals are released in the North.

705
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.440
If you know, Peter thinks they're doing a good thing

706
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:05.119
by Robin A, you know, a pharmaceutical company. But the

707
00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:08.159
problem is they traveled down south because you know, it

708
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:10.079
gets cold, and they're like, no, we deal with this,

709
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:13.400
and they wind up in Florida and then Bobo meets

710
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:14.880
Bobbett and got out.

711
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:18.559
A bunch of Bobo leggs. Yes, yes, there was some

712
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:23.719
that were I don't know if it was a sanctuary

713
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:28.159
or something. There were some in the Green Swamp, which

714
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:32.400
is outside of Tampa. It's in Lakeland and for me,

715
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:34.280
it's an hour drive to get there. That's one of

716
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:39.719
our primary areas. And I think there was given given

717
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:43.360
monkeys or something like that. But we've heard sounds that

718
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:48.000
sounded like given monkeys before. So whether it was given

719
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:51.400
monkey or if it was a bigfoot, we don't know

720
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:55.320
what big put type creature, but we have heard strange

721
00:44:55.360 --> 00:45:00.079
things before, but they had been around, you know. The

722
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.920
the state says, oh, we collected all the monkeys and

723
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:06.480
in the green spot, and I found it hard to believe. Sure,

724
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.639
you know, I have found a big canine print, a

725
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:16.679
four inch canine print underneath some bushes. And I don't

726
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:21.239
know what that is either, because people are walking their

727
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:25.920
dogs through thick bushes, you know. And this was like

728
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:29.239
a little muddy spot that was underneath some bushes and

729
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:31.599
I just have me walking past it and I caught

730
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.559
my eye and I'm like, whoa, that's the biggest canine

731
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.239
print I've ever seen. But in the green Swamp, they're

732
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:40.199
also used to have some wolves back in the day.

733
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:42.920
Maybe they still are there.

734
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:45.559
Wait, no, I think that's a good point. And Matt

735
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:47.840
and I had this conversation over the weekend because something

736
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:51.000
used to be there. Animals don't know boundaries like we know,

737
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:53.320
you know, at one point they were there. At some

738
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:54.880
point they'll probably return.

739
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:55.800
Uh.

740
00:45:56.559 --> 00:45:58.760
It's a good beat on that. We were talking about

741
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:00.639
the same thing with wolves, because a starting to get

742
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:03.519
reports of wolves in the northern tier of Pennsylvania.

743
00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:04.039
It is.

744
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:11.199
Heyton, go ahead, Henry, didn't you get Henry try that again.

745
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:17.719
I just wanted to make a quick statement. In John

746
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:21.360
Green's book Sasquat Steps Amonga's he had a chapter about

747
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:25.679
twenty inches of rain, where there's more reports where there's

748
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:28.679
twenty inches of rain per year. Now, I'm imagine in

749
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.079
Florida that's quite a bit of rain, especially when they

750
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:32.760
get hurricanes down there.

751
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:38.480
Yeah. Yeah, we had a lot of rain, like right now.

752
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:42.559
I was in the Everglades this weekend, and I mean,

753
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:48.000
you know, it's always flooded this time of year in

754
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:51.480
the Everglades because it's just it's a river of water, right,

755
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:55.960
So it's just like usually about two feet deep, two

756
00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:59.280
and a half feet deep, and it's just it's our

757
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:03.960
fresh water supply, right. But because of the storm, there

758
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:07.960
was storm surges and then the high tides, so it

759
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:13.639
actually flooded out, you know, Everbleen City. It flooded out

760
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:16.559
more areas in the swamps. So we had to walk

761
00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:19.639
around with rubber boots on most of the time to

762
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.639
get into campground, to get to our cabins and stuff

763
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:26.760
like that. So it was very, very, very wet. But

764
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:29.519
you know, when we're down there, every single time we

765
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:32.920
go down there, we're always hearing Skunk Ape stories from

766
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:39.159
the locals, always from the SMOs to Makasuki, you know,

767
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.519
and just locals to live there. They're like, oh yeah

768
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:47.280
I saw one, I saw two, blah blah blah. So yeah,

769
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:49.639
all most of the locals have had stories and they

770
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:53.199
they always tell us stories.

771
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:54.960
Marie.

772
00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:56.960
You also get to spend a decent amount of time

773
00:47:57.119 --> 00:47:59.800
with you know, somebody who gets, you know, a mixed

774
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:03.960
up on Bigfoot, David Chile, right, and he's uh, it

775
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:05.800
was just his birthday, but yesterday or the.

776
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:08.360
Day before, yeah, Saturday, right.

777
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:11.519
So exciting for him. But yeah, somebody that's been kind

778
00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:14.360
of synonymous with the Skunk Ape. What's it like hanging

779
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:16.920
out with him and you know, being able to hang

780
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:18.800
out the museum and just his take on the whole

781
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:19.840
skunk Ape phenomena.

782
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:22.800
Oh well, you know, his first experience when he was

783
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:26.239
ten years old, him and his brother were out in

784
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:30.480
the sawgrass behind their camping area, their camp they have

785
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:34.440
a they live at the campground. They have this big

786
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:39.000
camping area and so it's been in their family for generations.

787
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:40.920
So as a kid, they would just go out in

788
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:44.760
the saw grass behind the campground and that's where his

789
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:47.960
brother saw it first, but David was too little, so

790
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:51.480
his brother lifted him up on his shoulders and he

791
00:48:51.639 --> 00:49:00.159
saw it. And so David is very, very knowledgeable all

792
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:03.719
about everything about the Everglades. He knows a lot about

793
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:06.880
the Scone Cave, you know, because he has had four

794
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:14.079
sightings of it, and he's just so I love hanging

795
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:16.199
with him because he's so knowledgeable.

796
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:18.920
Right, and the video that they took, that he took

797
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:20.360
that's not been debunked.

798
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:26.480
Yes, my team I decided to do a research study

799
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:30.960
about his citing his video trying to see if we

800
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:33.920
could debunk it or not. So we went out there

801
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:38.039
last year, my team and I, and we went two

802
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:43.239
different occasions. We did two reenactments where my team members

803
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:48.840
went to the spot and they tried to run just

804
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:52.199
like the Skonk Gate did in the video. Now, when

805
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:56.559
we did it, it was winter time and it was dry,

806
00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:59.920
and my guys couldn't do it. They could not do

807
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:06.199
you went going through the mud saw grass and it

808
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:12.039
was extremely difficult in February. So his sighting was July

809
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.119
ninth or tenth, in the middle of summer when it's

810
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:19.280
a billion degrees with you know, two billion degrees of humidity,

811
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:23.360
and we couldn't do it in the wintertime when it

812
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:27.440
was dry out there, dryer because it was still muddy

813
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:32.679
deep mud. The sawgrass is incredibly high and thick. You

814
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:37.719
can't move your feet through it. And in the distance.

815
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:43.000
My guys were exhausted. So, yeah, this is the video here.

816
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:48.480
So he starts out walking and so what David had

817
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:53.719
said was it looked like he's David was out there

818
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:57.119
in his tree stand kind of thing and he spent

819
00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.960
months out there. It's behind this campground. He saw a

820
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:05.960
deer going across this area before the skunk Cape did,

821
00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:08.800
so he thinks the skunk Cape was chasing a deer.

822
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:13.920
And I don't know if he sees David and he

823
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:18.320
decides to take off running, or if he's still he

824
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:20.480
can see the deer and he's going after the deer.

825
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:23.199
We don't know. But see right now, he's kind of

826
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:27.000
weaving in and out of the trees here, right Hammick,

827
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:31.559
and then he'll start running across the sawgrass. And this

828
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:35.760
is what my guys did, Mike and Chris, who are

829
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:40.039
who are on my team, This is exactly what they did.

830
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:43.320
They tried to go on the hammock, and then they

831
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:46.159
tried to take off. So if you keep watching this,

832
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:52.519
you'll see him eventually start going crossing the sawgrass, which

833
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:56.000
I think now I think he's he's getting close. He's

834
00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:59.519
still going around the hamm Those are called hammocks. They're

835
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:04.679
kind of like islands, islands of trees that are out there,

836
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:10.000
and they're dry areas, so it's the perfect place if

837
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:12.639
you go out there to look for prints and stuff

838
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.880
because it's the driest spots in the Everglades. When you

839
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:21.360
see these hammocks of trees, and he'll start running in

840
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:24.400
a few minutes. Here he starts running off slow and

841
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:27.400
then at the near the very end, he takes off

842
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:33.960
running extremely fast, like lighting. So now he's going he's crossing.

843
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:38.159
He's kind of like mosing along. Now that sawgrass is

844
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:44.480
at least three to four feet high, sometimes it's taller

845
00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:48.360
than that. See, now he's picking up speed, and look

846
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:51.440
at the way he looks like he's gliding. Right, he's

847
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:57.000
going extremely fast, but he looks like he's just gliding along.

848
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:00.360
What's interesting is how close it actually got to him

849
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:04.480
there at the end. Yeah, you know, yes, that's uh,

850
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:05.800
that's incredibly fascinating.

851
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:10.599
So my second reenactment, I brought in a experienced marathon

852
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:15.400
trail runner and he's a friend of ours, and I

853
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:17.639
had him try to do it, because you know, we

854
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:20.039
were out of shape. We couldn't do it. So I'm like, okay,

855
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.800
we're going to bring an experienced trail runner. He went

856
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:26.679
out there, he couldn't do it either. Exhausted, he had

857
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:29.000
a I did you feel good? Didn't it?

858
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:30.199
Huh?

859
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:32.440
Made you feel good that he couldn't do it either?

860
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:38.679
Rightly? Because I'm like, yeah, that's a little bit. He said.

861
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:43.920
The problem, the problem you have out there is trying

862
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:47.119
to get your feet through the sawgrass. He says, you

863
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:50.079
have to kind of like kick it as you go along,

864
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:54.719
get kick it out of the way, and it's it's

865
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:58.519
pretty interesting. Plus there's no path, you're just going. You

866
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.639
don't know if you're stepping on a game, falling in

867
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:06.280
a hole, stripping over a log. There are some there

868
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:08.719
is a little bit of water out there. Well July

869
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:11.400
there was a lot of water, so you don't know

870
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:13.760
what you're stepping in. You can't see. All you see

871
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:19.320
is sawgrass. So you know, we couldn't do it, and

872
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:23.039
as humans we're trying to find the path of least

873
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:27.559
resistance through the sawgrass. Okay, this spot looks dryer, this

874
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:29.679
spot looks a little more open, you know, just like

875
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:33.320
walking through the woods. Right, you're looking for the nice

876
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:35.840
little trail to walk on, a game trail or something.

877
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:40.639
And so, yeah, he couldn't do it either. So to

878
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:48.480
us it was legit. But everybody judges him and judges

879
00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:51.719
the whole experience. Oh, I was just a guy in

880
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:55.199
a suit running through grass. No, that is not grass,

881
00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:59.159
that's saw grass. That's totally totally different, and it's water

882
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:02.280
and no. But he realizes that no one has taken

883
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:05.199
the time to do any kind of research study except

884
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:08.400
me in my group, my team, and we made a

885
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:11.280
little twenty minute documentary about it.

886
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:18.039
So John, So basically, a guy suit would be risking

887
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:22.559
cutting himself up with sawgrass, stepping on the gator, stepping

888
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:26.400
in a hole, tripping over a log. But that thing

889
00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:28.440
was running like it was in his birthday suit.

890
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:33.159
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And at the time, the average temperature,

891
00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:36.920
the actual temperature on that day. Because I did a

892
00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:39.920
bunch of research, I had to go back twenty years

893
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:44.719
to try to find stats on the temperature at the time,

894
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:48.960
the water high, how much rain there was. You know,

895
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:52.599
I did all this research on this took a long

896
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:56.199
time to find. But if the average temperature at that

897
00:55:56.360 --> 00:56:00.199
time was ninety five degrees and I think the humid

898
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:03.440
was one hundred and seven one hundred and six and a.

899
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:07.920
Half, if you were in a suit with that hot

900
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:11.400
and it's water two feet of water, the weight of

901
00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:15.280
the water on a suit, there is no way someone

902
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:19.039
could run that far that fast wear in a suit

903
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:19.679
in the water.

904
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:23.599
Sorry, it ain't gonna happen. Man, Ferker couldn't run that far.

905
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:26.000
And men in black suits.

906
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:27.599
Well, listen, let's not be honest. We're not going to

907
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:28.679
run that far to begin with.

908
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:31.559
But yeah, I was giving us credit.

909
00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:33.559
You put us in a costume and you put us

910
00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:35.599
in those elements, it's going to be a lot less successful.

911
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:39.960
And I've also watched other, uh another reenactment that was

912
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:42.039
out there on I don't know, I caught it on

913
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:45.559
some documentary Marie with the conclusion was the same as yours.

914
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:48.400
It was it was impossible for this person to make

915
00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:52.000
the run like it was really bet So don't try it, folks,

916
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:54.079
unless you really want to get hurt, and this is

917
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.800
you know, how dare you do something like research Marie,

918
00:56:57.840 --> 00:56:58.880
to try to ballid.

919
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:05.719
It because I'm tired. I was tired of everybody saying

920
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:07.840
now I says a kind of suit and I was like,

921
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:11.360
you know what, let's try this. Let's just see it.

922
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:15.400
Do it without a suit on, just us, you know,

923
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:20.000
in February, and we couldn't do it. We could not

924
00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:22.119
do it. Two times. We couldn't do.

925
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:24.440
It, Marie. We just have a couple of minutes left

926
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:26.360
of the program. Any final thoughts you want to leave

927
00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:29.159
us with and any kind of websites or social media

928
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:31.840
you want to promote, well, you.

929
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:35.280
Know, my main group is a Mid Florida Bigfoot research

930
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:39.840
group on Facebook. I have eighty seven hundred members group

931
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:43.960
members right now, and I also have a website, mid

932
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:46.800
Florida Bigfoot dot com. If you go there and you

933
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:49.159
look at the research gallery, you'll see all kinds of

934
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:52.159
cool pictures of things that we have found out there,

935
00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:56.280
and so yeah, it's a good website. I'm also on

936
00:57:56.400 --> 00:58:01.079
Instagram and YouTube. We have a YouTube channel two and

937
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:05.320
on YouTube, I do very short research videos. I'm not

938
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.119
sitting there filming myself for an hour talking about how

939
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:11.400
great and wonderful I am. I'm going to show you

940
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:15.719
a one two three minute video of something. Look look

941
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:18.880
at the structure, or look at this footprint, or look

942
00:58:18.920 --> 00:58:21.679
at this you know. So I'm straight to the point.

943
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:24.400
You know, people don't have time to sit there and

944
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:30.480
watch hour long videos so of me walking. So that's

945
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:31.320
just the way it is.

946
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:35.519
Marie. We want to thank you very much for coming

947
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:37.719
on with us tonight. It's a little too short, thank you.

948
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:41.840
Yeah, we can talk more about skunks, right, We're.

949
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:43.480
Gonna have to get you on for part five then,

950
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:46.840
I mean, let's say that's how we go. Guy. Has

951
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.440
been a great show tonight. We took a little bit

952
00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:51.079
of a beginning, folks with Matt and I's recap, but

953
00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:54.360
it's a great information from Marie. Next show is going

954
00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:57.440
to be in two weeks, and we'll be announcing the

955
00:58:57.440 --> 00:58:59.719
guests for that here as soon as we get some confirmation.

956
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:05.199
But gentlemen, any thoughts, questions, comments, concerns from you, are

957
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:06.519
we all ready to call it a night.

958
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:10.760
I just want to yeah, go ahead, bake.

959
00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:14.599
I just want to thank Marie for showing up and

960
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:17.360
and honestly, when I watched that video, the first time,

961
00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:21.119
I was very guy in the suit, and now I'm.

962
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:22.039
Going to re look at it.

963
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:26.239
He gave me some really solid, you know, information, and

964
00:59:26.280 --> 00:59:27.159
that's what we need.

965
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:33.960
Yeah. Research, Yep, that's what it's all about. Vance, go ahead, buddy.

966
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:37.840
No, I just want to thank Marie for throwing in

967
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:41.039
a couple of aspects that we're a little bit different

968
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:44.440
for me to take a look at. But it's thank

969
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:49.199
you very much for participating in our little group chat here.

970
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:50.880
Greatly appreciate it.

971
00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:52.440
Thank you so much for having me.

972
00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:55.480
Maria said something telling a little earlier is that not

973
00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:59.400
everybody agrees or believes in certain aspects of this mystery.

974
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.599
And it's true, but it doesn't mean we dismiss it

975
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:05.480
and not have conversation around it, correct because it is

976
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:07.119
important and we've all.

977
01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:09.159
Had different experiences, so.

978
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:12.119
You know, absolutely, and that's what this show's called.

979
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:14.880
I can't say that your experience was wrong and mine

980
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:18.199
was right. No, you had yours, You had yours. You know,

981
01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:21.440
we all that's who we're here for. Share knowledge with

982
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:23.719
each other as it should be, and.

983
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:29.599
That's how we learn. And there's that train again, all right, folks,

984
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:33.760
I'm gonna spare that Henry take us out with those

985
01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:36.519
dulcin tones. My friends, you all be good, It would

986
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:36.800
be good.

987
01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:37.000
There.

988
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:46.280
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989
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:49.719
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990
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