Aug. 13, 2024

EP 109: Porch Sittin' With Tex

EP 109: Porch Sittin' With Tex

Tex from “Tex’s Front Porch” joins us to discuss his Bigfoot encounters. 

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Season 10

Tex from “Tex’s Front Porch” joins us to discuss his Bigfoot encounters.

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The views and opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch

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Experience do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the host, sponsors,

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or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. As always, listener discretion

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is advised.

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We got someone or something crawling around out here?

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Does a legend walk among us working in the forests

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of our world?

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Did you see what it was?

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Was it a person or an animal?

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Or I can't go? Oh, I know that my thunder

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light came on and I did. Happened to Glenn and

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see this thing running across the yard A good fight

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man or something works like a man. I don't know

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what it was.

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For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators,

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and witnesses trying to gain insight and proof around the

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exist distance of this mysterious entity.

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Jesus quite care. He Hello, get somebody out here. What's

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going on down there? Got a mention about six foot nine?

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I don't know.

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Is he announce there?

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Yeah, I'm working right out.

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Oh, okay, hand on.

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Your yarn, yeah, got you're bigger?

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Okay, what's he doing in your yard?

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We're gonna do.

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Join us as we continue into the investigation.

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Of the Sasquatch Experience.

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And good evening everyone, Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience here tonight,

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August twelfth, twenty twenty four. I'm Sean the Fort chot

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Fork or Vance Nesbitt, Matt Arner tonight, and we have

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a very special guest text from Tech's front porch joining us.

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But before we get into the show, and before we

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introduce Techs, just some important notes.

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Folks.

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We were hit pretty hard here in northern Pennsylvania from

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Tropical Storm Debbi, and the the damage was just intense,

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would you not say, Matt, especially up north and principally

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our research area.

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Absolutely, especially the valley areas just over in the in

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the valley to the south of where our camp is

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is probably close to about seventy percent of the camps

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and the campers we're destroying.

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The flood. Wow, that's a shame down in that camp

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just south of us, trout Run, the town of trout Run,

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northern Lycoming County, just obliterated by the flood. The volunteer

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fire department while they were out rescuing people. The fire

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department got pretty much destroyed. And those folks are gonna

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need our help. So if you folks are looking to

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assist in any way, I know we have very generous listeners.

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You can contact the Tioga County, Pennsylvania Emergency Services. They're

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taking donations at the Kowanesca Valley High School located at

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fifty one North Fork Road in Westfield, Pennsylvania, eight to

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three each day through Friday, August the sixteenth, looking for

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things like heavy duty garbage bags, floor squeegees, two gallon buckets, rakes, tarts, brooms, gloves,

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muck boots, fans, extension cords, cat litter, peanut butter and jelly,

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manual can openers, plastic goods, paper goods, and large ziploc bags.

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And for those who prefer to make a monetary donation

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can do so through the Tioga County Partnership for Community

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Health checks made payable to the TC thirty three Pearl Street, Wellsboro,

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PA one six nine oh one. Monetary donations are tax deductible.

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If you are looking to help the Trout Run Volunteer

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fire company who did monumental work, we I posted on

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our Facebook page where you can go through Camp Susqua.

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They're doing a donation effort trying to raise ten thousand

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dollars for the fire hall, and uh the EQT organizations

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willing to match the first five thousand dollars raised. And

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if you go to our Facebook page, I pinned it

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to the top, there's de Linksusqua dot network for good

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dot com. You can go right through there and donate.

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And like I said, up to the first five thousand

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dollars EQT is going. The EQT corporations going to match,

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which is pretty pretty cool that.

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Of that corporation.

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That's very cool.

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Right, that's end now that we've got, you know, and

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of course, you know, as with all things, our thoughts,

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prayers and you know, go out to all our friends

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and family and listeners and everyone and up there affected

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by you know, this disaster. It happens, folks, no matter

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where you live, you're always prone to something and you

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think it can't happen to you. Something like this happens

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and it wakes you up. So give if you can,

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if not, share if you can. It takes nothing, takes

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nothing to share, It's all I'm saying. Not going to

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pontificate on it, but it takes nothing to share it

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out well, getting into the meat and potatoes at tonight show.

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I'm really excited that we've got texts from Texas Front

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Porch on Monica Rawlins, good friend of mine, love Monica

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to death, recommended text to me, and a little bit

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about text. He had a dog man encounter when he

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was sixteen and he kept it quiet for years. He

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kind of fell into researching Bigfoot in the paranormal in

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twenty sixteen and has had two daylight sightings, multiple encounters.

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He was featured in the Small Town Monsters documentary and

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The dog Man Triangle and has spoken at several conferences,

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as well as starting Texas Front Porch channel and podcast.

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Now they are on Facebook and Instagram. You can join

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up there. Texas team has puoled what many consider the

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best hard evidence out of the field in years, and

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they have possible DNA and finger handprints that have been

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verified non human by a wildlife biologist. So tex were

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really glad to have you on the show. Thanks for

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joining us, my friend, and welcome.

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Glad to be here. I appreciate you having me on.

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Don't do a lot of guests.

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If this goes sideways, we're gonna blame Monica. Right.

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That's right there, You go for everything do we I

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don't know, you do, I don't. I don't like the

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temp faith, right, like the temp faith. But Tex, sixteen

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years old, you had an encounter. What was going on then?

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And what happened?

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Man? You know, I'm a bit of a country boy.

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I was raised. I was raised up out in the country,

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and so I grew up fishing and hunting and trapping

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and you know, the whole nine yards. And I was

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actually coming home from hunting. I had a couple of

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rabbits on one belt and I was walking up a

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white gravel road that bordered one side of our place,

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and I was just fixing to jump go through the

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fence and make a bee line for the house, you know,

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take a little short cut through the pasture. And this

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critter had come out of the brush on my left

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hand side and ran across the road in front me

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on two legs, about thirty feet away. It wasn't dark,

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it was I mean, the sun was in the process

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of going down, but I still have plenty of light.

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And he the image I have froze in my head

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really is when he turned. He's about midway across and

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he turned his head and he kind of snarled at

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me and growled at me, and then he dove over

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the R five strum our friestran barb wire fence on

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our property and went into the field of love grass

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and he went down on all fours and then I

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saw the grass move a little bit and then he

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was gone. And uh, you know, I always say it

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was an underwear changing moment for me, but I didn't.

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And I know when you when you explain it, it

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seems like, oh my gosh, you know, this thing took forever,

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and it didn't. It was it was a matter of seconds.

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And but it was just when when you see something

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that's not supposed to exist, you know, we're told all

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our lives monsters aren't really, you know, and all when

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you see something that's not supposed to exist, your mind

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has to reboot, you know. And as a sixteen year

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old kid, I didn't know what to think. I mean

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I didn't a lot of people, you know. Of course,

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after getting into the research and everything and talking to

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multiple witnesses myself, and there's this thing called dog Man's

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sickness that everybody talks about, and it's a sense.

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Of dread and.

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Just almost uncontrollable fear that you get, and I didn't

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get that. I mean, don't get me wrong, I was.

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I was scared, you know, but I didn't. It's weird.

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I wasn't afraid of it was. It wasn't anything. It

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wasn't any different to me than running across another big

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apex predator like a big cat or anything like that.

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It was the same kind of feeling for me. But anyway,

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I was, I was. The way our place was set up,

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it was the road went up one side it was

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actually the west side, and then teed into another road

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that went across the front of the place on the

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north side, and then our driveway went down the south

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side of our place. So and like I said that,

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the idea was, I was gonna jump across fence and

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you know, take short cuts. Well, I had a decision

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to make. I could either do that and follow him

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into this tall grass which is about three and a

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half four feet high, or I could take the long

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way and stay on the road. Well, that didn't take

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much to make that decision. I didn't have nothing but

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a little four ten with me, and I didn't have

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any ama left anyway, So basically I had a club

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with me, but I decided to take the road.

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And.

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Almost the whole strip home is I don't really remember it,

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but I remember turning the corner at the tee and

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thinking to myself, well, if he comes at me, I

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may get a swing at him. And that's about it.

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And the next thing I remember is walking in the

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back door of the house and my mom. Now, if

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this ain't country, I'll kiss you. But that my mom

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had a brule that you had no guns in the kitchen, right,

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So I walked in the back door, walked in the hallway,

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went in the kitchen. I just kind of collapsed into

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a chair and I set my gun on the kitchen

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table and my mom was in the kitchen, cooking, doing dishes.

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I don't know what she's doing, I can't remember, but

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she turned around. I guess she was fixing to scold me.

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You know, she had this look on her face, what

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are you doing, you know, with the gun and everything.

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And when she looked at me, she says, oh, my god,

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what's wrong with you? You're white as a ghost. And honestly fellas.

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I tried to tell her, I really really did, but

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I physically could not speak. Nothing would come out, and

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my sister lived on the same property, about forty yards

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fifty yards away from us, and of course back in

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the day you had party lines, you know, showing my

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age here. But anyway, she picked up the phone, she

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hollered at my sister and she'd get over there. Something

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wrong with your brother. So she came over and it

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took them the better part of an hour to settle

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me down enough where I could talk, and I told

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them exactly what had happened, you know, And that's the

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only thing I knew to call it, because I mean,

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back then, you know, the term dog man hadn't even

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been coined yet, right, right, And they didn't luckily you

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know when and when. I'm sure we'll get into this later.

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But having a good support system when you have one

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of these encounters. They didn't call me a liar, that

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didn't tell me I's crazy. They now, they tried to

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justify what I saw. And you know, maybe I saw

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a big dog or maybe a you know, a coyote

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or or something like that, and or even a hobo,

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you know, or you know what the hobo and you know,

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my imagination took over, you know, is what they were

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trying to, you know, And I think they were just

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trying to do that just to you know, so I

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wouldn't completely lose my mind because I was I didn't

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know what to think. Guys, I just did not know

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what I had seen. I didn't want to believe what

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I saw. And after that I went I went quiet,

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I didn't talk, and I honestly I didn't go anywhere.

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I was Like I said, I was outdoors all the time,

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and it was to the point to where I was

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scared of the dark. We had what's called you know,

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everybody calls a booger light, you know, a street lamp

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out out in the country. We had one of those

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in our place. But if I had to go from

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my house my sisters or vice versa, or God forbid,

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go down at the barn. If I had to go

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to the barn in any time, I was loaded for bear.

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And if I had to go back and fortween our

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house my sisters, it was at a dead run if

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it was dark.

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And yeah, question question for you, my friend, how long

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did it take you to get your composure back after this?

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It sounded like even though you might not have been scared,

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that it like the dog Man's sicknesses you described, it

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still had a very profound effect on you. There was

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some trauma associated with it, right.

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Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. I mean, you know, and I've

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and I've talked to several people that were traumatized a

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whole lot worse than I was, you know, with different encounters.

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But and it goes back to speak to the you know,

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support system. But it took me a better part of

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a year, probably eight nine months before I got to

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doing back what I was doing. And the reason it did,

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I mean I took little baby steps because I got

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I wouldn't I wouldn't go anywhere, you know, and that

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wasn't like me. And honestly I got mad.

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Was it because of the fact that the image kept

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running through your mind on a rerun of what it

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is that you saw, and that's what held you back

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a little bit?

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Well, man, I was scared that thing was behind every rock,

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every tree of the barn. I mean, you know, I

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just knew that thing was snatched me up and skin

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me alive. But I just couldn't get that out of

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my head, you know. And it was, like I said,

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it took me about eight nine months or so, and

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I got mad because I felt like I was being bullied,

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to be honest with you, and I decided I've had enough,

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and that if this thing had wanted me dead, it

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could have there. I couldn't have done nothing to stop it,

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you know, but for some reason it didn't. It didn't

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hurt me. So with that and just being flat out mad,

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I started going back out a little bit of the time,

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and then about eight nine months later I was going

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out to where I used to hunt. Well. A little

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bit after that, I was headed into these woods. Now,

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these woods that I used to hunt, and they were special.

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They belonged to this old man and he had about

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twelve hundred and sixteen hundred acres I can't remember which.

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It was pretty good sized pace, and he had half

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of it that he had you know, hayfields on and

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stuff like that, but the other half he hadn't done with.

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And it was real thick. It was so thick you

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had to travel the game trails and sometimes you were

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on your hands and knees getting down through there. But

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it would open to these clearings and some of them

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were just big enough to almost just lay down in.

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Some of them were as big as a you know,

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footprint of a small house. I mean, it was just insane,

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and the hunting there and the trapping there was just phenomenal.

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So anyway, I was headed back out there and there

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was a tree that had fell on the fence. And sorry,

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I still to this day, I apologize because I get

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a little emotional when I talk about when I go

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into depth about it, you know, but the uh, we

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had fallen over the fence and I hadn't got with

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the boy and fixed it yet, or sought it up

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or anything yet. And because that was kind of a

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trade off that we had, you know, he let me

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hunt and fit you know, whatever I want to do

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on his property now kind of be his eyes and

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ears on the stuff that he didn't really take a

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look at all the time. So I was just about

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to run up this tree and jump over and jump,

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you know, go over the fence and hit the trails,

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and I heard something walking in the brush and I

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thought it was There was a set of twins that

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I went to school with and they lived on the

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other side of this place, and they hunted it, and

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I thought it was the one. I thought it was them,

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and uh so I hollered out, you know, hey, who's

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out there and it stopped and uh, I said, Hey,

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whoever's out there, you know, give me, give me a shout,

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and it just kind of shifted his weight. I said, look,

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I said, uh, if you're you know, say something or

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I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot, and uh, it just shifted

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its way again. So I probably not the smartest decision

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I'd ever made. I popped around off up in the air,

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and whatever this thing was, I don't know if it

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was what I saw or I don't know if it

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was something else. I don't know. I didn't wait around

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find out, but whatever it was came, I come charging

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through the brush and branches, breaking the whole nine yards

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and I just I tucktail and I ran the whole mile,

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a little over a mile back to the house. Now

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never even look back at This thing was friction and

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snatched me up. I didn't want to know about it. Text.

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Having my own encounter back in twenty twelve, I can

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tell you that the reaction you have I can I

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can truly empathize with, because while I might not have

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been I think, Matt, you heard me retell it again

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a couple of weekends ago, and I over I still

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get good bumps and retelling the story in depth and

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you start to remember things, and the uncomfortability is what

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I refer to it. I might not be scared, but

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I sure in the hell am an uncomfortable when I

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rehash it or when I go back to the moment

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of when had happened that you can't describe it to

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somebody else who hasn't experienced an encounter. Was something to

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what you said not supposed to exist? So text, you know,

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we have a question from somebody that says that they

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are from one of our listeners, I cannot fathom dog

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man being a biological animal. Legs and feet like a

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dog don't work with bipedal locomotion. So when you saw

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this thing, this thing was it's still on all fours

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when you saw it.

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No, it was on two legs. But the problem is

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it didn't have legs like a beot.

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It didn't have gotcha. And this is where there are

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a lot of variations in what people see, right.

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And another thing I would like to throw in on

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Texas his story that he's telling h thirty feet away,

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that's nothing. You measure out thirty feet that's right in

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front of your face. Yeah, that's really close and I

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think he can pick up a lot of detail at

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thirty feet Wow, that's he was.

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He was close enough to whin. He opened his mouth

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and snarled out the boy that accol that I could

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make out that he had pink and black modeled gums

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and times.

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Wow.

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So you know the old wives tale, the old wives

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tale that you hear. You know, if you want a

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smart dog, you know, look for one with black in

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his mouth. And that's one of the things that stuck

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out to me. You know, this thing's not human, right,

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and of any sort I don't think. I don't know. Honestly,

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we can't say what they aren't because we don't even

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know what they are.

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Right.

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But why did it happen at that time? I mean,

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what was going on at that time that this thing

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happened to show up? There is this a continuous creature

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that just happens to realm and you cross paths with it?

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Or is there something else going on? But that part

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I can't figure out.

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Well. After years and years later, after after I came

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out of a proverbial closet about this, I was talking

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to a young woman that used to have a YouTube

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channel and she was just as nice as she could be.

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She's the first one I told my encounter to, and

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she had been in this game for a while, and

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she started asking me questions about, you know, my encounter

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and things anything prior to that that was not quite

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adding up and stuff like that, you know, what had happened,

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any anything strange that had happened before or after, you know,

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any of this time. And we really started connecting a

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lot of dots because about a year before this happened,

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we had a dog go missing and the only way

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we found him was he started smelling and we found

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him underneath the house. So I had to crawl on

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there and get him. And when I drug him out,

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it looked like, and this is I'm sorry, folks, this

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is brutal. But he looked like somebody had taken him

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and held him up by the front legs and just

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gutted man. And so my daddy said, well, he probably

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got into it with a bobcat, you know. And I'm like,

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you know, at that point, I didn't. You know, daddy

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knows better than I do. You know, all right, sounds

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plausible to me, you know that, uh, that that happened.

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And then afterwards we well, no, this was before I'm sorry,

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there's another one. Before there was some folks that owned

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the place that bordered you know, this guy's place that

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I hunted, and they had horses and sorry folks. Yeah,

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so anyway, mhm what they had horses and maybe now

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they weren't the type of people that lived on whatever,

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and but they had they kept their horses out there

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and they come out on the weekends ride the horses,

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blah blah Blahhm. Well they just up and moved and

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took their horses and just they were gone. And so

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I went as you know, nose, he as kid, I

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just went nosing around the property, and uh, I found

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out what was left of a horse that was dead,

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and it was almost fully intact. And when I say that,

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it just it was what was left was bones and

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some hide, but it hadn't been scattered, you know, because

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most of the time when something dies like that, rereditors

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get a hold of it. And you know, we're not

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just predators, but you know, any any varmit right, and

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they'll they'll just scatter the remains. And uh, this wasn't

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This wasn't like that. It was pretty much intact. And

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at that point I just thought it was cool because

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I had a horse skull that mama could put nder

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her rock garden. But uh, welcome to this young woman,

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you know, started kind of putting all this together. She said, well,

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that may have been a kill a kill site. And

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if you think about it, it wasn't bothered. They just

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up and move. You know, I'm not saying it was.

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I'm just saying it's a possibility. Right, But uh, we

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and we were was all the time. And there's another

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there's a buddy mine I grew up with out there

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and I've not the I'm on the cat for about

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forty years, forty years and and he did the same

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thing I did. You know, we hunted together and stuff

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like that. But when something would go missing, when some

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you know, a marriage dropt fold and it did either

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get tore up, she'd get tore up or maybe go missing.

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The same thing with a calf and a cow, that

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type of thing. Somebody have his chickens missing, get a

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dog killed, whatever. It was always blamed on either a

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big cat or a pack of wild dogs. Now, we

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did have big cats in the area. They were very

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very rare, but they did they did come through the area,

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and so it could have been. But I know me

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and Randy, as much as we trump through the area

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out there, and as many nights as we spent out

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there alone and everything else, we never ran across this

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pack of wild dogs that was responsible.

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For which which you think you would run into that

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at some point, right, shouldn't be a mystery, guys. We

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have to take our MiG show break here, folks. You're

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listening to Sasquatch Experience with Sean Forker Vance and has

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a bit Matt Owner to next tonight's guest texts. We'll

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see you on the flip side of this, folks, and

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we come back. We'll start getting into a little bit

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of Bigfoot. So stay tuned.

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We'll be back right after.

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This Newsteam.

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NEOs team a symbol.

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I've been reading some children's books.

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I've been getting into it.

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I don't really like to read, you know, I'm not

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a big reader, but a children's book I can handle.

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You know.

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We've got a couple we're working through right now, trying

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to get through them.

462
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:49.319
But one I've been reading.

463
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.359
Whether it's maybe you've heard of it, I don't know

464
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:52.799
if you have kids or not, but one of them

465
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:56.480
is called It's called Ten Little Monkeys Jumping on a

466
00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.119
vent and the book is away a lot of what's.

467
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:01.279
On just in the time.

468
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:05.519
Ah.

469
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:09.119
Yes, I believe that's probably the precursor to Planet of

470
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:12.559
the Apes, if I'm not mistaken, the Rise of the

471
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:14.680
Ten Apes Jumping.

472
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:14.799
On a bed.

473
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:19.960
Anyway, Happy Monday night to you all in this wacky, wacky, crazy,

474
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:22.799
flipped upside down world that we are living in right now.

475
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.839
And here's another prime example of just that. Out of

476
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:31.839
Oberlin to Ohio, a school district in Lorraine County went

477
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:36.799
into lockdown when school officials said an unannounced visitor came

478
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:40.880
to the campus dressed in a costume. Based on videos

479
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.599
posted to social media, the unannounced visitor appeared to be

480
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:48.880
a person dressed as a bigfoot. Appeared to be a

481
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:55.160
person dressed as a bigfoot. School officials later confirmed to

482
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:58.720
Fox eight News that it was a person dressed as

483
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:03.240
I'm menacing look Bigfoot. According to a letter to the

484
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:08.200
parents from the fireland's local school superintendent, the unknown person

485
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:11.480
parked in the school parking lot and crossed the campus

486
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:16.599
while in costume, but never entered the buildings. During this time,

487
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:20.839
some of the students at fes were outside and had

488
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:24.880
to be moved inside quickly into safety. The school day

489
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:30.799
was negatively impacted. Although lockdown drills are practiced regularly, the

490
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:37.039
situation caused understandable concern and disruption. While some people may

491
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.799
make light of the situation, the fact remains that we

492
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:45.079
cannot waiver from the side of safety. According to the

493
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:49.960
Lorraine County Sheriff's Office, the person inside the costume appears

494
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:52.160
to have been a parent who came to the school

495
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:57.240
property as part of a prom prank, officials said to

496
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:00.519
the school resource officer, and was able to pull the

497
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:06.240
person over as part of a traffic stop. In full costume,

498
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:10.160
Bigfoot drives a car beneath a post to the school

499
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:14.799
district's Facebook page regarding the lockdown, videos and pictures of

500
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:19.559
the situation were shared and garnered a variety of responses.

501
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:23.960
One person said it was hilarious, but also noted it's

502
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:26.880
actually kind of scary when you think about it. There

503
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.240
were a lot of kids close to the windows, and

504
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:32.359
not a single one of them felt it was suspicious.

505
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:35.359
I don't know all the details of who it is

506
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:39.039
or anything, but I hope this teaches kids we can't

507
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:44.799
be pranking schools as a mythical creature. Another posted back

508
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.960
in the day, everyone would have just laughed at the prank.

509
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:54.680
Totally different world now. Unfortunately, according to Captain Daniel Ashdown

510
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:58.240
with the Lorraine County Sheriff's Office, a report was sent

511
00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:03.440
to Oberlin Prosecutor for review to determine if charges will

512
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:04.640
be pressed.

513
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:06.960
When we come back.

514
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540
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541
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:46.000
Until we meet again, keep your toe in the Thanks

542
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vance for that great segment there tonight, the Big Football Horn.

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545
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546
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Yeah, and I want to throw in one extra. Today

547
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August twelfth, it's Eric Altman's birthday. So happy birthday, Eric, Happy.

548
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Birthday Eric, My mentor the man who really guided me

549
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:18.039
into Sasquatch research, Eric Altman, So happy birthday.

550
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Lead.

551
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:22.800
We appreciate you here at the Watch experience. Now, before

552
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.000
we talk left for break, we were just talking about

553
00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:28.760
Texas dog Man. But now in the interest of time,

554
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:30.199
we have to speed it up to get into the

555
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:33.559
big Foot text. Tell us about your bigfoot encounters.

556
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:39.000
My friend, Well, you know, I kind of got into

557
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:45.880
this by accident because I had told another boy about

558
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:51.599
my dog man stuff and he did some research up

559
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:56.119
in Oklahoma on the Red River, and he invited me

560
00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:58.280
to go up there with him. Said he knew the

561
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.320
place and all this kind of stuff. So I went

562
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:03.679
up with him his first time out. So I'm getting out.

563
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:06.079
We're getting out of the truck. We pulled into this campground.

564
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:09.280
We got it a hay field and there's a thin

565
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:13.480
tree line and then a wheat field, and then we're

566
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.039
pointing down to the bottoms down there the floodplain down

567
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:18.039
on the Red River, and that's where we're fixing the

568
00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:21.559
head and we get out of the truck. He's getting

569
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:24.320
his cameras and whatever stuff ready, and I'm just taking

570
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.400
in the lad land. Never been there before. I want

571
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:28.239
to pick out some landmarks, that type of thing so

572
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.000
I don't get bought. So I'm looking around and I'm

573
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.519
looking through this tree line into this wheat field, and

574
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:37.800
week's about four feet tall at this point. And this

575
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.000
thing stands up in the middle of the wheat field,

576
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:43.880
stands up, looks around like, you know, looking both ways

577
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.800
for he crosses the street type thing right, it takes

578
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:49.360
off of the dead run into the bottoms. And I

579
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.519
saw him from about waste up, from waste up until

580
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.719
he hit the fire brake and then I saw him

581
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:57.559
about two steps had to toe. He was about sixty

582
00:36:57.639 --> 00:36:59.719
yards away, so he was he was pretty good, you know,

583
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:02.559
pre good for pre ways off, pre good ways off.

584
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:04.920
But he was.

585
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:09.480
He was looked like slick black hair, not the conical

586
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:12.199
head he had. He had an round head on him,

587
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:14.559
but he was he was ever a bit of eight

588
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:19.800
feet because we went and measured that wheat and it

589
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:25.079
was about four feet tall. But uh, when he piped,

590
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.960
when he pipped up and looked around and he right off.

591
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.760
I said, God, damn, there goes one right there.

592
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:33.159
Wow.

593
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:38.840
Uh, because honestly I had already ran probably I already

594
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:40.519
ran into the probably the most scariest thing I was

595
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:44.079
ever going to run into. And I think, I don't know,

596
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.400
it just didn't. I was like, oh, wow, you know,

597
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:50.960
because I in my mind these things did exist then,

598
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:53.880
you know, so it really would. And I was out

599
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:56.400
there looking for this thing, so I really, I don't know.

600
00:37:56.480 --> 00:38:00.159
It didn't like, you know, traumatize or anything. I was

601
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.960
happy about it, m hm. But so we went on

602
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:08.760
down into the bottoms. He was like, what you're like,

603
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:10.960
third person has seen that thing. I hadn't. I hadn't

604
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.719
got seen yet. So we headed on down in the

605
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:16.719
bottoms on foot, and we went down to the bars

606
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:20.519
and we took a left, and uh, we heard something

607
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:24.480
up on the ridge, and we'd heard it walking through

608
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:28.440
the trees, and then every once in a while we

609
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:30.920
hear a knock or a mouth pop whatever they're doing,

610
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:36.559
because we don't know folks, okay. And then we'd walked

611
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:38.320
about another one hundred yards or so and then we

612
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:41.119
would hear it all again, so we think what he

613
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:46.079
was doing he was and made possibly a family group

614
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:48.480
in front of us, so we wouldn't walk up on. Okay,

615
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:52.159
it's just an idea. So that was that was my

616
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.599
first daylight exciding. My second one was through binoculars. Actually,

617
00:38:56.440 --> 00:39:00.280
we were me and two of my buddies, Jason Clean

618
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:02.719
and Bob and Bearen were down there scoping out a

619
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:06.079
campsop we were going to use. And I had the

620
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:08.519
binocars out and I'm looking into the trees and I

621
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:10.679
see this thing and I'm like, what in the world.

622
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:16.480
And it was probably thirty forty yards into the into

623
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:22.719
the trees, and he was hugging a tree, and I'm like,

624
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:28.519
and look, you know the cats that are gray and

625
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:31.199
white and black and you know the calico I get

626
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:38.559
you called and he was fuzzy, so but he was

627
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:41.119
hugging a tree with his head on the other side

628
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:42.800
of the tree. So I just saw his like his

629
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:47.760
arm and you know, his back. And I'm sitting there

630
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:50.079
and I'm looking at this thing. I said, oh, guys,

631
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.519
see this. And we're trying to pass. And I learned

632
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:56.039
a hard lesson that day. Put your binoctars at least

633
00:39:56.079 --> 00:40:01.199
on the monopod folks. Yes, ye, So We're trying to

634
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:02.960
pass them on Officer's back and forth. By the time

635
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:04.960
I got them back zero back in on, he was gone.

636
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:09.679
So we walked in. We walked into the into the woods,

637
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:12.360
and we you know, looking around the tree he was at,

638
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.400
and there was a path worn out around this tree,

639
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:20.159
and a path wore out, a trail that purposely missed

640
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:24.599
dead branches, and it was wore down to the dirt. Folks.

641
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:28.920
I mean, this was evidently a lookout point or a

642
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:34.280
watch point that they used a lot, probably to look

643
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:37.920
at this campsite. Because I honestly believe that we're their

644
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:43.519
TV these things. If there's nothing else, they're freaking curious.

645
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:49.159
But those are my two daylight sightings. And I've had

646
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:52.840
several night sidings. I've been I've been going out there.

647
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.719
He don't go out there no more. And me and

648
00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:00.239
him got sideways a while back. But that's they're hearing there.

649
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:07.320
But right, But I kept going out there, and uh,

650
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:12.599
I got into the habit of going after by myself.

651
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:14.719
I go out there and spend two or three four

652
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:18.800
nights by myself and do some solo stuff. And I

653
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.519
was running into so much stuff. Well, it turns out

654
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:26.719
that they and I kind of I kind of came

655
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:30.960
up with this thing where I call it passive research.

656
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:32.599
I don't go out in the woods. I don't go

657
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:35.519
tree knocking, I don't go hollering, I don't go I

658
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:40.960
don't go walk out going here, bigot put right. I've

659
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:44.440
always had better luck having them come to me just

660
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:48.239
doing my thing and having them come into camp close

661
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:55.000
to it. I've I've captured growls, I've captured I've got screams,

662
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:59.639
I've got grunts and whistles and just all kinds of stuff.

663
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:05.119
I've seen things at night. Of course, everybody can tell

664
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.440
you they've seen things at night. I do have. And

665
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:09.920
when I did have people out there with me, I've

666
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:12.519
had several people have their first sighting out there with me.

667
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.599
This place is very, very active, and it's known for

668
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:20.519
being active, but it's also known for the paranormal. So

669
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:26.719
you have to you have to be careful because you

670
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:31.719
really don't know what you're running into. And y'all talked

671
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:34.599
to a lot of folks, I'm sure, and we know

672
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:38.920
about the whole orb thing, strange lights thing being around

673
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:42.360
the Bigfoot territory and all that. And I don't think

674
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:46.559
that the orbs are bigfoot floating around. That's just not me.

675
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:51.119
I'm not saying that I'm right. I'm just saying I

676
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:55.079
haven't seen any proof of it yet, right, But I

677
00:42:55.239 --> 00:43:00.159
have seen some really really strange stuff out there that

678
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:08.280
I cannot explain, and it's I don't know, it's got

679
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:10.039
me scratching my head. Of course, every time you go

680
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.280
out you come back with more questions. You do answers.

681
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:15.320
Isn't that the thing? Though?

682
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:20.920
I would say on your first experience there, you said

683
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:26.000
it was sixty yards. Again, that's a very short distance.

684
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:30.480
I don't know if our listeners really put into perspective,

685
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:34.599
sixty yards is nothing. It's really it's less than a

686
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:39.119
football field away. And everybody puts up, you know, the

687
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:42.920
scenario that a football field is you. It's really not.

688
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.960
Now sixty yards away from you, that's close. That's enough

689
00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:52.920
to have a direct encounter, face to face with, whether.

690
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:57.000
It's physical or not. But sixty yards not that far away.

691
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.960
And I guess my question is what were some of

692
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:03.800
the details that you picked up when it was that

693
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:08.360
close to you, as far as the physical of what

694
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:09.639
it is that you saw.

695
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:15.480
He you know, he wasn't he wasn't massive, like you know,

696
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:17.880
big and wide and all this kind of stuff that

697
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:21.159
you hear a lot. He was he basically had a

698
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:22.440
basketball player's build.

699
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:27.679
Interesting. Yeah, I've heard that a number of times though.

700
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:31.000
Yeah. Yeah, if you put if you put hair all

701
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:31.960
over shack.

702
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:37.440
You know, so wow, and it's insane. I've heard that

703
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:38.079
so many.

704
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:42.519
Well what's interesting. What's interesting is that's exactly what I

705
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.039
say when I retell my encounter. It was not big

706
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:48.400
and bulky. It was built like an NBA player and

707
00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:52.880
it moved so fluidly. Texts that it was like built

708
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:56.719
for the environment it lives in, and it was just

709
00:44:57.039 --> 00:45:00.400
it was solidly built, but it wasn't bulky by any means.

710
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:06.239
It was big, but not bulking. What what what always

711
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:09.719
amazes me? And like I said, I've had two daylight sightings,

712
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:13.800
one of the one that was moving, and some nighttime

713
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:19.239
sightings that were moving. Their their gait is what really

714
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.760
gets me, because they move like a freaking dancer, a

715
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:26.679
good dancer when he's when he's going across the floor,

716
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.840
his hit. Their head does not bob right and they

717
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:39.599
can be at a full run and not bob usain bolt.

718
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:42.599
I believe if you ever watch him run the hundred

719
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:47.199
yard dash, He's like that. His head doesn't move a

720
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:53.800
whole lot, you know, up and down. And but it's

721
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:58.480
so weird because what the latest sighting that we had.

722
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:01.480
I had Brandy, one of my co hosts, out in

723
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:05.079
the woods with me, and we had Nicholas out there

724
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:07.079
and a friend of hers, Holly, and we were up

725
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:12.159
and we were back to back. We decided to go dark. Okay,

726
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.800
so we're all back to back and uh, me and

727
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:19.480
Brandy are looking off in this direction and I see

728
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.800
this thing moving through the trees. Now I'm not talking

729
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:27.079
about walking in the tree and out the tree. I'm

730
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:31.199
you know, just moving about the tree. I don't know,

731
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:37.039
maybe twenty or thirty yards away from us. We had

732
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:39.119
plenty of moonlights so we could see, but we could,

733
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:42.239
you know, just got the silhouette and it was there

734
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:47.599
a bit of eight feet and this thing it was,

735
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:51.239
it was and this stuff is thick. I don't know

736
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:54.559
how they moved through the stuff like they do right,

737
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:57.360
act like it's they're just walking across the street, right,

738
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:00.280
And it was so smooth. We watched the thing for

739
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:03.320
probably fifteen twenty seconds. We both saw it at the

740
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:07.719
same time. It was her first siding, and then we

741
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.280
were coming back down out of the area about I

742
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:12.239
don't know, thirty minutes later. I'll be dad going when

743
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:17.239
you get bluff charged by another one. So you know

744
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:19.800
there is But isn't that the thing?

745
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:24.920
It seems like the physical environment and the fluid in

746
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:28.039
which they move. I think a lot of that is

747
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:33.119
where the paranormal aspect comes into it, because they seem

748
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:38.480
to move through that environment so smoothly without any deterrence

749
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:42.760
to what the environment is around it. And that's what

750
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:47.679
has been completely confused. It really does, because I've heard

751
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:53.719
that same description so many times that it just moves

752
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:58.880
so fluidly and quickly. But yet the brush and the

753
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:03.599
environment it doesn't seem to allow something to move like that.

754
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:08.119
Yeah, that's what's crazy about it. I've been back in

755
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:12.639
the area where we saw this thing. There's a lot

756
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:14.760
of wait a minute vines back there. I mean, you know,

757
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:18.800
it's just you can't. You can't move through this stuff

758
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:23.199
like that. We can't just it's not possible.

759
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:25.480
I don't have all I'd be falling on my face

760
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:29.360
every you know, three seconds, I'd be I'd be done on.

761
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:30.760
The ground they hit.

762
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:31.639
I don't get it.

763
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:33.440
They have to have.

764
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:39.719
Great night vision, have to to be able to navigate

765
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:44.079
like they did, right, you know, And and I know

766
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:46.719
a lot of people they talk about how they can

767
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.599
see infrared and everything, and you know, several years later

768
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:53.599
that was, oh, you know, they can it's it can

769
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:55.960
see infra red like not nothing else could. And people

770
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.159
I hated when they did this because they acted like

771
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:03.159
it was some kind of superpower that you know, only

772
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:06.800
these things had. And it's there's a lot of what

773
00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:09.559
we call normal animals out there that can see you know,

774
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:14.079
lemurs can see infrared. So it's not a far stretch

775
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:18.119
to say, you know, because I think that somewhere down

776
00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:20.760
I think what these things are. It's somewhere down the

777
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:25.760
family tree. We went left and they went rights. You know.

778
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:33.519
It's but it's not it's not so much. It's not

779
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:37.480
a far stretch of imagination to say they have that capability.

780
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.480
Just like infrasound, you know, when you all the time

781
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:44.239
hear about that. There was one time where I may

782
00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:46.639
have may or may not have gotten zapped. I don't know.

783
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:52.880
But again, this is not a superpower. There's a lot

784
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:56.000
of animals that use that a lot, right, you know,

785
00:49:56.079 --> 00:50:01.119
And that's why you hear that when something when one

786
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.079
of these creatures vocalizes, everybody talks about how you can

787
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.039
feel it as much as you can hear it, you know.

788
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:09.280
And I've had that experience too. I've had them growl

789
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:12.960
at me and you know, and and it's like man,

790
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:16.639
you know, and the screams are it's just like good grief,

791
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:21.039
you know. But I don't know it's.

792
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:24.400
They do.

793
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:32.320
They have abilities that we don't have. Yeah, but there's

794
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:36.119
very little stuff out there, really, if you really really

795
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:43.039
open minded about it, that can't be explained away by

796
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:47.480
a physical creature, right, Okay? Do I think there's more

797
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:50.960
than what we're dealing with, more than one phenomenon out there,

798
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:55.920
because this is how I'm looking at it, because I

799
00:50:56.039 --> 00:51:04.400
do paranormal investigations. Also, Now, paranormal one oh one spiritually

800
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:07.199
gonna lie to you. They know your mind, they know what.

801
00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:10.639
They're gonna come to you as something you know or

802
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:13.599
something that will you be vulnerable at, you know, as

803
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:15.599
a little kid. They'll come to you as a loved one,

804
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:22.920
that type of thing. M h. Why wouldn't if you

805
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:28.280
were after looking for Bigfoot? Why wouldn't these things appear

806
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:31.679
to you as a bigfoot or mine speak with you?

807
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:38.920
Per se. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. Okay, I'm

808
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:42.360
really not. It hadn't happened to me yet. When it does,

809
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:46.239
I'll be waving my wou flag like everybody else. But

810
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:52.639
the thing about it is, folks, if you've got something

811
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:58.880
speaking to you and it's not you, you probably need

812
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:03.920
to check yourself because is folks, I'm not convinced this bigfoot.

813
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:08.880
I'm afraid that it's something else that because these miss

814
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:15.440
trickster spirits, mischievous entities, what however you want to look

815
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:20.039
at it, they will pick something up that is in

816
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:21.960
your you know, in your in your mind or what

817
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.960
you're looking for, anything just to get there an invitation

818
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:26.760
and get that foot in the door. And if you

819
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:31.400
welcome that communication, that is what they're looking for. So

820
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:35.599
I'm just saying, be careful and be open minded. You know,

821
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:39.440
same thing with Aprocamp. We've got we have to all

822
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:42.559
on both sides of the on both sides of the aisle.

823
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:46.039
I guess you could say, we've got to be good.

824
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:48.159
We've got to be willing to go what if and

825
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:55.360
sit down and have a calm, intelligent conversation, because if

826
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.719
we don't, we're going to be stuck in the same

827
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:00.400
mud that we have been the last fifty the years

828
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:05.599
of the subject. We will never right, right. I.

829
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:07.840
I just want to ask you a couple of questions

830
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:13.239
about locations and and not nothing specific, but what area

831
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:17.360
of Texas you do your primary research is at central

832
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:20.480
northern you know, southern West.

833
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:27.239
Actually it's it's Oklahoma that I'll go to Texas, but

834
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:30.880
I go to Oklahoma and it's right on the Red River, Okay,

835
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:31.639
So yeah.

836
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:37.199
And another second part of the question is do you

837
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:41.679
look for it? Do you seem to have more experiences

838
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:49.079
at a certain characteristic of locations such as uh More

839
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:53.480
on the river, bottoms, More on the ridgetops, more in

840
00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:57.599
the swampy areas. Is there one particular area that if

841
00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:00.239
you're going out tomorrow and you're you know, you want

842
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:03.840
to check out this area out that you would focus on.

843
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:08.880
There's when you get down to it, there's two things

844
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:13.760
that you need to look for. Good cover and fresh water. YEP,

845
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:20.599
plain and simple. They're no different to me. They're no

846
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.280
different than find trying to find game. They're no different

847
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:26.920
than humans would be if they were out in the woods.

848
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:29.360
They're gonna stick to those things, and they're gonna look,

849
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:31.480
you're looking for food, cover and water.

850
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:33.360
Yep, you know.

851
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:36.559
I think they use the rivers and the streams just

852
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:37.239
like highways.

853
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:38.000
Yep.

854
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:42.360
You know what we've got out there. We have a

855
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:46.199
fresh water spring in the area, Okay, you know, and

856
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:48.119
then you have, of course, you got the Red River

857
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:50.639
and all the tributaries that run into it. So they're

858
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:53.360
running up and down that thing like it's nobody's business.

859
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:58.280
Oh yeah, yeah, but that that's what I look for,

860
00:54:58.800 --> 00:54:58.960
you know.

861
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:03.000
Okay, Now, text, you did have something you wanted to

862
00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:05.199
show us here that we do have qued up. It's

863
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:06.199
a footprint.

864
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:08.880
I believe I've got several you had.

865
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:10.639
Well, let me pull them up here and you can

866
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:13.840
tell us what we're looking at. Okay, what we got here,

867
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:20.639
And gentlemen start your engines. Yeah, this one here is,

868
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.960
this one here is right off is right on the river.

869
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:28.519
Now they don't there's nothing really that sticks out about

870
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:34.079
this footprint. Okay, it almost it looks very human, But

871
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:39.119
it's the backstory for this because we were we were

872
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:44.400
in the campsite right above this and we had. We

873
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:48.320
tend to fish when we're out. I don't call it bigfoot,

874
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:52.480
and I go camping and fishing, right, So we had

875
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:54.719
some throw lines out and we were checking them over

876
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:58.639
two hours. These footprints appeared coming out of the river.

877
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:00.480
Within a two hour period.

878
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:05.400
We looked up and down trying to find evidence of

879
00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:07.920
a boat, and we could not find it. We never

880
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:09.880
heard a boat. We weren't that far from the river.

881
00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:14.400
They led, They led out of the water into the

882
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:22.400
woods and not back and they were barefoot. So and

883
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:25.880
we know they were fresh because those coon tracks that

884
00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:29.960
you see on the side right there had those were

885
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:32.400
already there. And you can see that footprint is on

886
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:38.280
top of it, right, Okay, there was a now that

887
00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:40.559
I'll get to that one in a minute. That one, Okay,

888
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:44.000
this is just part of the same trackway here. You

889
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:48.000
can see the MUDs a little dryer. It's still even

890
00:56:48.039 --> 00:56:50.679
a good, you know, good footprint. You can really see.

891
00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:55.000
And pictures are horrible, by the way, folks, I don't

892
00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:59.920
care who takes them a picture of a footprint. Pictures

893
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:06.239
footprints are horrible, right, but you can really see the

894
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:13.599
mid tarsal break in this one. And like I said,

895
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:16.159
the mudge a little dryer, it's still even a pretty

896
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:16.599
good dent.

897
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:17.280
You know.

898
00:57:18.679 --> 00:57:22.800
This is another one in the same trackway. This one

899
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:24.199
looks a little odd.

900
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:27.000
I don't know.

901
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:32.880
Why this one looks so different, but I don't know.

902
00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:35.840
It could be the you know, the weight shift. It

903
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:37.440
could be a little bit different. Right.

904
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.800
Well, of course there's that, you know, the same thing,

905
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:52.719
real real pronounced mid tarsal break right there. Here's a

906
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:55.639
picture of the trackway itself, or part of it anyway.

907
00:57:56.960 --> 00:58:00.840
The deep mud, right, that deep mud didn't slow this

908
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.880
thing down at all, whatever it was. And you can

909
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:11.559
see where it actually stood. It looked like it it paused.

910
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:17.360
Right, you know, feet side by side and then continuing

911
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:18.599
in that straight line.

912
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:19.800
Texan.

913
00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:21.440
How deep were the prints?

914
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:28.199
Well these because these were a good almost like six

915
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:28.880
inches deep.

916
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:34.400
Wow, so they had some weight into the mud and

917
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:36.360
shifting around there.

918
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:41.559
And uh oh that then we get into the handprints.

919
00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:43.760
But I want to go back to this footprint here.

920
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:48.880
This one is is in that area. It's not It

921
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:52.159
wasn't taken by our group. This was red River Crypted

922
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:56.000
that that got this one. This is on hard pack.

923
00:58:56.320 --> 00:59:00.559
Look how deep that thing is, and you know the

924
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:03.800
boy's foot's there and it's got it's almost twice as

925
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:07.840
wide as his foot, right, you know whatever.

926
00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:10.639
It seems like in the step it throws most of

927
00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:15.280
the weight onto the toes as it takes the next step, right, yeah,

928
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:18.000
right mm hm in.

929
00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:23.960
A running motion. Maybe yeah, maybe, But I thought that

930
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:26.880
was a really good catch by the boys up there.

931
00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:32.280
They do some good work. Let me get past this. Uh,

932
00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:37.719
now we can talk about these fingerprints and handprints, which

933
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:43.719
is what we got. We're really proud of these. These

934
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:47.119
I've had looked at by two fingerprint experts and a

935
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:49.559
wildlife biologist and the only thing they can tell me

936
00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:51.960
is they all say the same thing. I can't tell

937
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:53.599
you what it is, but I'm telling you it's not human.

938
00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:55.239
What it's not.

939
00:59:56.079 --> 01:00:01.840
Yeah, and there's a few reasons for that one if

940
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:06.599
you look at this handprint. And a little backstory on

941
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:12.719
this real quick, I was doing a solo show up

942
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:16.199
in the cemetery and my safety team was down The

943
01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:18.599
cemetery sets about one hundred yards up on a hill

944
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:22.960
in the woods, and it's an old, defunct cemetery and

945
01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:29.320
they were sitting down there below the cemetery and then

946
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:31.760
my phone went dead. Well they came up to get me. Well,

947
01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:34.239
they left in such a hurry that they left the

948
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:36.440
key fob in their truck and the ignition. They left

949
01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:38.599
all the electronics and camera gears sitting in the back

950
01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:41.800
of the truck. Hellgate was up and they had a

951
01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:46.559
one of those big bear proof yetti coolers in the back.

952
01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:52.360
We came back down within about thirty minutes. All these

953
01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:54.480
handprints were all over our trucks. We were able to

954
01:00:54.559 --> 01:00:57.519
identify what we think is three separate sets of prints.

955
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:01.880
All of them were smaller than our hands, but we

956
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:04.960
could not replicate the spread between the forefinger and the thumb.

957
01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:10.119
The thumb is almost it. It would if you was

958
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:12.559
to leave that handprint, you'd had to dislocate your thumb

959
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:19.239
to do it. Okay, Another another little thing, I call

960
01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:22.239
it a little thing. The tailgate was down on his truck.

961
01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:28.320
The huller had been unlatched and opened but and just

962
01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:32.199
and it was closed, but it wasn't last back. There

963
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:35.559
was water and ice dripped over the tailgate like something

964
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.559
somebody or something had scooped it, scooped water out of it.

965
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:42.559
Right on the top of his cab were two handprints

966
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:47.639
with water dripped down in between them. And I know

967
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:49.840
that happens because you have a beard like mine. You

968
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:51.599
scoop water out and it gets in your beard and

969
01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:56.360
drops that. Now, let's get back to this. This handprint,

970
01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:58.639
this is not only a handprint, it's also a forearm

971
01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:02.800
print along with it. The other two sets of prints

972
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:07.119
that we found were not like this. The differences I'll

973
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:14.400
show you real quick. These other handprints rubbed dirt off

974
01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:24.239
the truck. Okay, the one, the one set here is

975
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:25.480
dirtier than my truck.

976
01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:26.400
Mm.

977
01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:31.159
And there's a marsh area right across the street that

978
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:35.840
this life. This this fresh water stream or spring bubbles

979
01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:38.760
up right there at the bottom cemetery, runs underneath the

980
01:02:38.840 --> 01:02:41.400
road and then forms a marsh area across the street

981
01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:46.960
across the road, their white gravel calichi roads out there.

982
01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:50.320
If this thing had been into water and picked up

983
01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:56.079
all that dust, it that that this makes sense? Okay.

984
01:02:57.039 --> 01:03:04.760
Now if I zoom in, zoom in on this thumb print,

985
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:12.719
every human foot, every human fingerprint swirls, every one of them.

986
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:13.719
Mm hmm.

987
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:20.000
These do not right? They run horizontal? What has fingerprints

988
01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:20.880
that run horizontal?

989
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:23.000
Mm hmm.

990
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:30.119
Okay, if we zoom back out, we go you can

991
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:32.000
see the same thing on the other on the other

992
01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:38.039
prints too, see straight across, straight across. But if we

993
01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:39.719
zoom back out and I'll take a look at the

994
01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:45.159
forearm print, that looks like it was done with a

995
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:51.320
paint brush over so much hair on that forearm, I.

996
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:55.199
Mean, interesting, interesting point very much.

997
01:03:56.239 --> 01:03:56.679
Look at that.

998
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:01.119
From hair like something arm right right.

999
01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:07.719
This is uh to me. This is the best heart

1000
01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:12.599
evidence that's came out of the field in years. We

1001
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:16.320
did not pull any of these prints, but we did

1002
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:19.559
pull another one that happened a few months later off

1003
01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:23.519
of a truck because it was very very early, and

1004
01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:25.440
we pulled that and we've got it in a baggie

1005
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:27.760
in a freezer and we're waiting to send it off

1006
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:36.360
for DNA. Okay, there's another This is right right behind

1007
01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:46.079
the forearm print. Okay, it's an elbow hm hm. So

1008
01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:48.840
what it looks like this thing did?

1009
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:49.159
It was?

1010
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:53.840
And all all these handprints are the highest they get

1011
01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:57.639
is like the edge of the bed of the truck

1012
01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:00.360
or just over the hood, and they're all every one

1013
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:04.360
of them was reaching up. So whatever these three things were,

1014
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:06.960
and I'm not saying, I'm not telling you for a

1015
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:12.599
fact that they're bigfoot. Do I strongly believe that there

1016
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:16.519
was three juveniles that left these prints, absolutely, but I

1017
01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:18.199
can't sit here and say for certain that thing.

1018
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:21.519
We understand that, right, But you got some very interesting

1019
01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:24.840
documentation text. And that's what one thing that you know,

1020
01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:28.320
we always talk about is being able to photograph the

1021
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:33.039
entire journey, not just a picture here and a picture there,

1022
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:36.039
Like you're trying to tell a story with the photographs.

1023
01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:39.280
Get everything you possibly can and scale. You see that, Matt,

1024
01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:41.360
You couldn't ask for something better unless you did it yourself.

1025
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:46.239
So you can see that's the back of the bed

1026
01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:51.320
of my truck, top of the bed, and the handprints

1027
01:05:51.320 --> 01:05:54.639
are reaching up. I mean we would have to be

1028
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:56.719
down on our knees to make that kind of handprint,

1029
01:05:57.920 --> 01:05:59.559
you know, or in an awkward position.

1030
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:00.440
Mm hmm.

1031
01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:08.360
There's no shot of it, but uh yeah, the spread

1032
01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:10.639
on that the spread on it between the fore finger

1033
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:13.119
and the thumb is just incredible.

1034
01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:13.760
Yeah.

1035
01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:17.920
I was just gonna say, there's a huge span between

1036
01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:22.159
the thumb and the fingers. Yeah, wow, that's crazy.

1037
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:28.159
The wildlife expert that that I showed these two said,

1038
01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:35.360
the the the closes and and we and we pulled up.

1039
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:42.320
We tried to find handprints that would match these, and

1040
01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:47.320
they're very human esque. But the closest thing that we

1041
01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:51.840
could find as far as the the layout of the hand,

1042
01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:59.880
the physical characteristics of the hand where it was built

1043
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:06.039
is a gorilla mm hmm. But uh yeah, it's.

1044
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:14.079
Stunning within itself. Yeah, stunning.

1045
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:21.519
It's the dermal ridge that just has me completely fascinated,

1046
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:23.800
even in what you're showing right now.

1047
01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:26.599
Uh yeah, those dermal ridges.

1048
01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:34.320
Uh yeah, that's not caused by any insect or any raccoon. No, No,

1049
01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:42.159
that's something much larger. That's that's crazy. Wow, that's very

1050
01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:43.039
cool to see.

1051
01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:47.000
Yeah, I am thoroughly impressed with what our team has

1052
01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:51.199
pulled out. I mean it's very good text. That's very cool.

1053
01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:53.760
I've kind of scroll we're here and.

1054
01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:57.199
Definitely top notch.

1055
01:07:57.280 --> 01:08:01.119
There. That's my truck. So, like I said, it's it's

1056
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:05.400
just over the hood of the truck I drive. I

1057
01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:12.119
drive a RAM fifty hundred stock for drive, so you know,

1058
01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:14.079
it's not all jacked up or anything, right.

1059
01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:17.319
It really doesn't matter, but.

1060
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:20.359
Not something I would need a ladder to get into.

1061
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:23.079
Look at those prints, oh.

1062
01:08:23.119 --> 01:08:29.359
Man, Yeah, it's you know, I hate tooting our own

1063
01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:33.600
horn here. But damn, these are impressions, you know.

1064
01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:36.840
It's that's definitely too worthy, and we appreciate you coming

1065
01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:39.520
on and sharing these with us, because this isn't stuff

1066
01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:40.840
we get to see all the time. We get a

1067
01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:42.880
lot of stories, but we don't get a lot of

1068
01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:46.800
evidence associated with that's great with these.

1069
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:53.359
But yeah, you throw these footprints and the handprints all

1070
01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:56.600
together and then you've got the the uh you know,

1071
01:08:56.800 --> 01:09:00.560
the the uh audible stuff that we've got, and it's just,

1072
01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:02.920
you know, what are you going to do with it?

1073
01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:07.359
I mean, And for our folks listening to this in

1074
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:10.960
the podcast version, I do recommend you go to the

1075
01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:13.399
video version of this on YouTube and check it out

1076
01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:16.439
so you can see the photographs that we're talking about

1077
01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:19.680
here text to sharing them from his screen.

1078
01:09:19.840 --> 01:09:35.039
So right, that's my favorite. Yeah, yeah, it's we're looking

1079
01:09:35.079 --> 01:09:38.279
at getting more. The one, the the one that we

1080
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:42.600
pulled was a few months later after after we got these,

1081
01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:46.920
and we were all there was four or five of

1082
01:09:47.039 --> 01:09:51.439
us in camp, I think, and the camp site we

1083
01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:55.840
were using then one side was a gully leading down

1084
01:09:55.880 --> 01:09:59.159
to the river and the other side of the camp

1085
01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:05.560
was a wild plumb thicket. So I mean it's you know,

1086
01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:09.800
you're you're you're just asking for it when he in

1087
01:10:09.880 --> 01:10:12.960
that kind of area. And uh, we were all just

1088
01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.119
sitting around the campfire and one of the boys had

1089
01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:19.039
his uh Nicholas had his suv parked beside the gully,

1090
01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:24.560
and we had we're going around there to pee, you know.

1091
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:28.760
And then Nicholas got up and the next thing we

1092
01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:31.319
know is he's hollering at us, which one of you

1093
01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:34.880
so and so has left us so and so greasy

1094
01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:38.199
big handprint on my truck. So we go where looking

1095
01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:40.920
on the top of his near the top of his suv,

1096
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:44.720
there's a handprint that's bigger than anybody's there at the camp.

1097
01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:47.279
And I got pretty good Pauls, folks, I got a

1098
01:10:47.319 --> 01:10:49.920
pretty big good fun I wear a size eighteen ring

1099
01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:52.119
if that tells you anything.

1100
01:10:52.199 --> 01:10:56.600
Right, twelve, So, yeah, you got some mets there, you

1101
01:10:56.680 --> 01:10:57.960
got some mits do.

1102
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:02.960
So this thing left the handprint that was bigger than

1103
01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:05.720
mine on the top of this suv and it was

1104
01:11:05.960 --> 01:11:07.399
orly wow.

1105
01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:09.039
And so we.

1106
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:13.319
After the after I had after we had this running

1107
01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:18.000
with these handprints, I started carrying a roll of clear

1108
01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:18.880
packing tape with.

1109
01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:23.159
Me and I got what you're doing.

1110
01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:26.039
And we pulled the hand We pulled the whole handprint

1111
01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:29.199
with that clear packing tape and we bagged it. There

1112
01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:42.079
you go now directly below this handprint. Well, like I said,

1113
01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:44.840
we had been peeing and you could see our little

1114
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:47.399
peace spots and I've got a picture of it somewhere,

1115
01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:51.279
but i don't know where it's at. And then in

1116
01:11:51.319 --> 01:11:54.920
the middle of it is a wet spot about two

1117
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:59.600
and a half feet in diameter m It looked like

1118
01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:03.159
a clock widesdale. And walked up there and just cut loose, okay,

1119
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:08.399
and everybody's well, did you get did you did you

1120
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:10.560
get a sample of the soul? Did you get DNA?

1121
01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:15.479
As great as that is great as an ideas, that

1122
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:18.439
was No, we did not. And I'll tell you, yeah,

1123
01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:22.920
we had already been peeing in that spot. It was

1124
01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:25.399
already contaminated. And what's the first thing they're going to

1125
01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:30.239
tell you human? Yeah, right, So there was no use

1126
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:32.720
in getting any of that. It wouldn't get us anywhere

1127
01:12:33.800 --> 01:12:35.560
because it was already contaminated.

1128
01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:38.560
All I can think about now is that Jack Link's

1129
01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:42.199
beef Jerkey commercial with the aquat missing on. The guys

1130
01:12:42.279 --> 01:12:45.720
have to put the sand in the water pots all right.

1131
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:55.520
There it is, yeah, but yeah, it's it's a fascinating

1132
01:12:55.640 --> 01:12:59.239
area then and where we go it it does not disappoint.

1133
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:03.880
And the activity is pretty much year round because I

1134
01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:07.279
think they've got and I don't think these things migrate

1135
01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:11.640
in the terms that we think of migration. I think

1136
01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:14.279
they're like a big cat and they travel through a territory.

1137
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:19.479
Now they it may be different up north, I don't know,

1138
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:25.600
but down here, you know, and I think in all

1139
01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:32.479
temperate climates, you know, areas, they I think they establish

1140
01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:34.880
a territory and they just work their way through it.

1141
01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:37.079
I agree with that.

1142
01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:40.720
A cougar will have a you know what, three hundred

1143
01:13:40.840 --> 01:13:44.199
square miles or one hundred people square miles, a huge area.

1144
01:13:46.279 --> 01:13:48.159
And if these things are working through an area, they're

1145
01:13:48.199 --> 01:13:51.039
not going to run the game out, you know, like that.

1146
01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:55.520
And this place overran with game anyway.

1147
01:13:56.760 --> 01:14:00.520
We have gone over time, which is okay, but that

1148
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:02.880
just sets us up to going to have to invite

1149
01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:04.479
text back on the show against.

1150
01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:07.119
Sometimes Hard two right, part two.

1151
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:11.560
Thank you so much man for coming on. We appreciate it.

1152
01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:12.600
Where can folks find you?

1153
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:17.399
Uh, you can find us mainly on YouTube Texas front Ports.

1154
01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:22.319
That's tex Apostrophy because it's my front Ports. But we

1155
01:14:22.520 --> 01:14:25.640
also we're out there on any podcast you can find. Really,

1156
01:14:25.800 --> 01:14:29.560
any place you can find a podcast, you can find us, and.

1157
01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:35.680
Right Facebook, Instagram, we'll put the links up in the

1158
01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:37.720
show notes so folks can find you. We just want

1159
01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:39.800
to thank you again man for coming on. This was

1160
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:40.600
a fun show.

1161
01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:43.920
Appreciate it all right, right, and and.

1162
01:14:44.039 --> 01:14:46.399
These photographs are just top notch Man, thank you for

1163
01:14:46.479 --> 01:14:47.359
sharing those with us.

1164
01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:50.720
Thank you appreciate the opportunity you folks.

1165
01:14:50.800 --> 01:14:54.720
You can find out more about us by going to Facebook, Instagram,

1166
01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:59.359
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1167
01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:02.039
siting or any counter, report it to us on our

1168
01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:05.560
website sasquatch Experience dot com or email us info at

1169
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:08.600
sasquatch Experience dot com. Of course, we do have a

1170
01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:10.720
Patreon where you can support us for as little as

1171
01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:15.039
two two dollars a month. We're not trying to be expensive,

1172
01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:16.920
just trying to keep the lights on and we appreciate

1173
01:15:17.079 --> 01:15:20.359
everything that our patreons do. And we do have a

1174
01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:24.039
hangout coming out on the twenty fourth, and so we're

1175
01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:27.439
looking forward to that, folks. Henry's not here, so I'll

1176
01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:29.279
have to have vance. Why don't you take us out

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with those dulcet tones.

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Oh, y'all, be good or be good at it.

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Folks, you're listening to the Sasquatch Experience. Keep on squatching,

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and good night.

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