EP 102: At the Window, Looking In...

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The views and opinions expressed by the
guests of Sasquatch Experience do not necessarily reflect

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the opinion of the host, sponsors, or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience.

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As always, listener discretion is advised. We got someone or something growing around

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out here? Does a legend walk
among us working in the forests of our

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world? See what it was?
Was it a person or an animal?

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Or I can't go. All I
know is that my thunder light came on

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and I just happened to glen and
see this thing running across the yard.

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A good side man or something works
like a man. I don't know what

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it was. For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers,

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investigators, and witnesses trying to gain
insight and proof around the existence of this

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mysterious entity. Coe, Carol,
Hello, get the money out of here.

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What's going announce there's a mention about
six foot I don't know. Easy

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announce there. Yes, I'm working
right here. Oh, okay, hand

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on, yeah, God, it's
bigger. Okay, what's he doing in

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your yard? We're gonna bring you
join us as we continue into the investigation

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of the Sasquatch Experience and good evening
everyone. Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience for

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Monday thirteenth, twenty twenty four.
I'm Sean the Fort Chopp Forker over,

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there's Vance Nesbit below me as Henry
May, and down to the bottom square

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is Matt Arner James Baker Off tonight, and my goodness, guys, we

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have just come back from a hillacious
weekend at OBC and I mean hilatious in

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a good way. Man. Did
we have a good time? Vance go

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ahead there, buddy, obc Ohio
Bigfoot Conference. It was well worth the

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trip out there for me personally.
And look, even though I've been involved

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in this whole genre for probably ten
years now, and you know, Sean

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and myself have been doing stuff,
there was so many moments that were just

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so outstanding for me personally. To
have great conversations with doctor Jeff Meldrum,

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to have conversations with Cliff Berrickman,
and to have conversations with Don Keating and

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of course Don is the one that
really kicked this whole thing into the action,

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and to have these personal conversations without
it being you know, any kind

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of Hollywood production or whatever this is
just a private conversation with all of us.

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It was so fantastic, and of
course, you know, we appreciated

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the fact that you know, Jeff
and Tanya Thomas came out and shared a

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lot of fun and adventurous moments with
us, going out in the wilds and

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going on a hike that we did
not expect to go on. But man,

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did we have a fantastic time talking
with so many people that came to

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our booth as we were doing our
live broadcast, and to interact with them

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and to give them more information as
to who we are. And so many

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people knew who we were already,
and to interact with them face to face.

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That is the most rewarding thing of
all. Forget the dollars. It

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had nothing to do with the money. It had to do with having these

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face to face conversations. And you
know, Sean, I would let you

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go on with who our neighbors were
to the left of us that shared so

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much information with you about certain topics. Oh good god, I mean,

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just to piggyback off what you were
saying. Vance just a great weekend,

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had Eric Altman. Good to see
you too, buddy, Eric Altman.

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Of course, him and Tom Miehawk
brought over some footprints that had been cast

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the week previous. We're going to
get Eric and Tom on here to talk

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about those footprints. And if you
you know interested, Eric was on Bigfoot

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Beyond with Cliff and Bobo this week. That episode just dropped. Fantastic episode.

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Absolutely, go tune in. You
get to learn a lot about Eric,

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my mentor a guy who fostered me
along and really taught me a lot.

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And what made me the most proud
going into this these sighting, these

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casting I had nothing to do with
the cast, guys, that was all

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Eric. But Eric followed the protocol
he had been preaching for years and what

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I believe were the best prints that
have ever come out of Pennsylvania and that

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they upset some people, but they
literally and we did a fit. You

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can go back into the archive and
look, we did a fifteen minute broadcast.

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That's all the time we could do. Guys. I'm sorry we were

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busy, but I think the biggest
thing that I took away is a privilege

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from that was the fact that Eric
and Tom showed up to Ohio Bigfoot Conference

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and the first people that they went
to was Sean Forker, and they had

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this tupperware container with three beautiful cast
prints. They showed them to Sean and

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myself first, and I was one
of the first ones that got to hold

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the Prince of my end before they
even went to Cliff Brickman and to doctor

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Meldrum. I was so privilege by
that fact. And of course Jeff Thomas

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happened to be at our booth at
the same time, and he's like,

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Wow, this is the most impressive
evidence I have seen out of Pennsylvania in

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the last ten years. And I
mean, they're remarkable. Prince And like

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I said, we get Eric on, we'll talk about them. Do want

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to give a shout out to Cryptid
Creatures reborn but big fans of ours over

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on X Thank you. He got
a glass of whiskey. I'm sure Vance

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has one there himself, just a
little bit a little red deck riviera,

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a little free promotion. So good
to see you, Jay, Thank you

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for coming on to the podcast tonight, Jenny and Jamie. Just great to

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have you guys here, our friends, the Kingts. Missed you guys.

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Hella missed you guys this weekend.
Just trying to do a roll call there

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a little bit before he went on, But the folks sitting next to us

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right to our left was from the
Forest Edge. Her name was Jamie.

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And you want to talk about somebody
that kind of lifted my spirits and me

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going over the weekend, it was
her because as we are getting drained by

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talking to so many people, not
that it's a bad thing, folks,

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we do love talking to you,
but understand that it is a tar it

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is it is a process for USh. You know, we're talking to a

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lot of people. Her energy man
was just fantastic and I got to talk

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with her all day long, and
so did you Vance and folks, she

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as a girl got to see the
Minnesota Iceman three times. And we're going

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to talk to Henry. We're going
to do a good episode of the Minnesota

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Iceman, by the way, because
we do. It's I don't think it

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gets a lot of discussion points today, but a good topic for us to

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go back on. But Henry,
what was interesting is she remembers seeing two

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different versions of the Minnesota Iceman,
two from what she believed to be the

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original Minnesota Iceman and then one which
was a replica. Now she's an artist

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and her mind is focused on details
and folks. She's a great artist by

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the way. Her and her husband
good people and like the thing she told

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us. I'm going to get her
on the show to talk to us about

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it. And that's one of the
magnets she made. Oddly enough, Wow

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fighter prawl pose, which I said, this is this was meant to be.

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He're sitting next to us like we
didn't have an assigned table. And

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we do have to thank Mark the
Worst Brother for that nice little Sasquatch Experience

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number one podcast sign. That was
pretty cool, great way to get our

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spirits going and lifted. It really
was just a great time and I can't

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say enough about it. But Matt, I'll tell you, Yeah, the

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craziest part of the weekend, and
he just disappeared on us for a second,

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was the amount of Henry Made groupies
no show. Well, yes,

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Henry May groupies were out in mass
everybody coming to ask where their lovable,

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affable Henry May is. And so
we've decided that if we can't get Henry

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at an event, we're going to
get a cardboard cutout yes of Henry there

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so people can come get their picture
taken with them. I wouldn't be fantastic.

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Yeah that is. I'm just going
to take him off the screen until

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he comes back. Not not just
so folks aren't looking at a blank spot.

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But I had a great conversation post
conversation here he goes with Darby Orchitt,

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somebody I never met before. Had
a wonderful conversation with him and Cliff,

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and I was just kind of a
fly on the wall in that conversation

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and listening to these guys talk,
and I got an opportunity to ask her,

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how the hell did you get involved? Actually I didn't say hell,

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I said F word. We had
to involved in this, and we're going

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to get Darby on the show.
I know he's been another podcast, but

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I yea he did, and good
guy. I really like him. I

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think he's going to be a game
changer in our field. I didn't get

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to talk to doctor Meldrium at all
over the weekend. I didn't know.

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Kind of stinks, but but I
had a nice, you know, maybe

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twenty minute conversation with him. But
to just reel back a little. But

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with the whole Henry groupie thing,
Matt, you were missed, Oh boy,

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you were missed, And so let's
try to maybe make this happen in

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twenty twenty five. Oh, definitely
be fantastically. Yeah, and plus we

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got we got monsterfests coming up too. We do have small town monster Fest.

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And I'm not making any promises,
but I know somebody else who's trying

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their damnedest to be there, somebody
else. But well, we won't make

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any formal announcements until we're until we're
closer, but man, you know.

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And second of all, like,
aside from the conference being fantastic, all

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the speakers great, great conversations with
Cliff, with doctor Orchid, with Matt

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Pruit. I get to spend a
great amount of time talking with Matt,

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a hell of a good brain on
on Bigfoot. Like, and I'm sitting

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here just guys, I've been around
a long time. We're going on thirty

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years. I've been in Bigfoot research
talk and listening to Matt and sitting there

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next to Cliff listening. Did Cliff
get pissed as he's reading an old episode

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of an old digest of the Skeptical
Inquirer about how they're getting things wrong like

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this this magazine was published so long
ago. And that's passion, you know,

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And that's a contagious passion. And
I really think that rather you've been

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in this field for five minutes,
you've been in it for fifty years.

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There is a passion that ties us
all together. And being with the group

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of like minded individuals and just being
able to spend that time to collaborate and

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discuss. There's power in that,
and there's an energy you get that really

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kind of reignited my passion for this
research. I mean, and like not

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to be crass, but you know, we're going balls deep, like we

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are really amp and it up.
We've got some great guests that are going

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to be lined up to come on
the program. More talking heads as you

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know, talking to people. People
like what we do. They know,

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we talk about the science of it, we talk about you know, we

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have a good time. But we
have a lot of experience on this show

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and that's what we share and that's
what sets us apart from you know,

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everyone else. So to more of
this and you know, I'm only looking

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forward to all future with you guys. We got some great stuff on the

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horizon, yes sir, And we
had a really good location at the Lodge

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that we picked well. At first, Sean and I were like, yeah,

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too sure, this is really the
spot we want to be in.

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It first to be the gold spot. It really was. It was the

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golden spot to be in because as
people come in to the lodge, they

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look to their left. Okay,
there's nowhere to go because there's a wall.

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Let's go to the right. And
of course, you know, that

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took them right to us, and
we kicked everything off for them as far

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as the whole genre of what they
were looking at. And you know,

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we did a live bit and I
mentioned to Sean in our live broadcast that

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we did the first half of the
day, everybody came in with their bigfoot

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shirts on and they're all enthusiastic and
got it. Okay, this is why

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you're here. The second half of
the day, people were coming in in

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their casual and Nike wear and just
and I don't I think a lot of

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these people were really curious about what
is this whole bigfoot thing if they did

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not have an experience themselves, And
they were learning so much as they went

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through the entire venue of what this
whole Ohio Bigfoot conference was. And I

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think so many of them left so
much more enthused than when they walked in

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the door, and that was the
big accomplishment. Brian, our executive producer,

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Brian Corbin asked the they announced the
actual attendance at OBC. Well,

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here's the deal. Three of those
VIPs were us, and not one of

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us were able to make it down
to listen to any of the speakers.

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We had a plan, okay,
we had a plan because we wanted to

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be able to talk about the speaker's
presentations to everybody as kind of a recap.

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We couldn't make it down. We
were busy, and I regret that

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we probably should have been a little
bit more organized. But Jay says,

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there are four hundred and twenty five
VIPs alone. That's a standout attendance right

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there. That's a pretty good number. I mean I heard numbers being bounced

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around from Mark de Worth. It
just in the volume coming through the door

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for the entire weekend twenty two,
there is just two three thousand people walk

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through those doors. And can I
say one thing else that makes that more

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astounding to me is that you have
to on purpose drive to the lodge.

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You can't just stumble upon it and
just oh I didn't know this was happening

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this weekend. You know, oh
blah, la la la. You have

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to drive like it's like twelve miles
from that Ohio State Park side into the

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park to the lodge. Yeah,
you have to go there on purpose.

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So that means three to five thousand
people on purpose went to the event to

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see it. And for whoever they
went to see, I'm glad they did

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because we really appreciated the interaction and
the traffic from the people that came.

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We talked to so many people,
got to meet our super fan, Jr.

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Cor She's our number one fan.
We told her she's official, so

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nobody else can be number one.
The rest of these can be number two

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and beyond, but she's number one, so we appreciate that. And folks,

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slip Berrickman, that's the philosophy of
all of us that was at the Ohio

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Bigfoot, Think Bigfoot last. Eliminate
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know, for gold. Let's see
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pretty it is very profound to find
some specific evidence. They say, hmm,

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okay, I'm thinking Bigfoot last,
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go with this Bigfoot. Yes,
and you know it's great and again it's

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another plug for Bigfoot and Beyond.
I just listened to that episode with Eric

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and that was their their thoughts when
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could this be could this be beer? Could this be human? Could

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be? Could this be this?
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them a lot of analysis and then
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and right foot that they were able
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amazing and amazing fine. So you
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is when they brought us the cast
Prince first before bringing it to anybody

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else. There's still leaves and debris
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it. And I'm like, this
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I'm holding it, I'm looking at
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you know Cliff, he brings out
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the print and he's like, you
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I'm like, okay, all bets
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yet. They just took the cast, put him in this tupperware and brought

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him to us first. And that
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and I'm very appreciative of that because
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Eric had texted me pictures, he
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proud is that there was a protocol
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this, that's what it was about, right and Hella, damn he made

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it just to throw it up there
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and tassels all available. The only
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decided probably not. Probably not what
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Baker is fighting with a water heater
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time. But on assignment's not fun. Our audience wants to know why we're

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not here, damn it. I'm
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I want them to have that visual
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out of a water heater, getting
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honestly, guys, that's uh,
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We're creatures. Put a link on
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We'll get the link up there here
shortly. Guys. Tonight's shows titled

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at the Window Looking in. One
of the conversations that Vance and I had

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and Baker and I had while we
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of bigfoot looking in windows, and
they get curious and as we're sitting there

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at the cabin or we're sitting there
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of opportunity for us to be observed. Are we always observing them? Or

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are they also observing us? So
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tonight. However, we're so close
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if we ought to take that now
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meat and potatoes. Yeah, let's
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We've did it. We did a
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after that, smoke him if you
got him. We're going to be right

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back right after this. Stay tuned. Who Steve a symbo? Bigfoot and

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I actually have a lot in commic. We're both just big guys from the

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woods that are just trying not to
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up happening a lot anyway. Yeah. Actually, you know the most famous

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image of Bigfoot, the one where
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the camera, they got from a
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debunked, and I was really disappointed
to read it, especially because it's said

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in there animal motion experts have determined
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first I'm like, okay, so
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Also, when they're not debunking Bigfoot
videos, what are animal motion experts doing?

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Ah? Yes, it's all fun
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shows up and then ruins it for
everybody. Well, happy Monday night to

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you all. This is the Bigfoot
bullhorn right here on the Sasquatch Experience.

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And speaking of Florida, you know
America's fallis in the water. There was

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a report from last October out of
Union County. Don't ask me where Union

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County is because I don't have a
map and there is no map posted,

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and it wouldn't do anybody any good
anyway, since you're listening to this on

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a podcast. But the witness states
my wife and I were driving, and

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no, not my wife. My
wife and I were driving home from the

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neighboring town of Stark on North County
Road two two nine at about eleven forty

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five pm, quarter to midnight.
As I approached Connor Bridge, I noticed

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a black bipedal figure run across the
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The subject was very large and moving
extremely fast, taking only two or three

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steps to cross the road, and
another stepped across the embankment and disappear into

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the tree line. As I slowed
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at what I had just seen,
I noticed that there was no game trail

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or path in the area. The
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bushes were still shaking in its wake. Now Here comes the follow up,

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or the money shot, as I
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You see what I just did there, Matt says, I spoke with the

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witness and his wife she did not
look up in time to see the figure

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running across the road, but both
are credible well, of course. The

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husband a thirty four year old construction
worker and lifelong resident of nearby Rainford.

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He and his wife were returning from
a run to the walmart in Stark that

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would be the city next door.
He says that at the time of night,

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there may be only one car every
twenty minutes or so driving along that

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back road. The area is dark
at night, and the figure was fifty

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to seventy five yards ahead of the
vehicle when it ran across. Mark has

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fog lights which lit up the figure
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that it was dark from to tow
He is likely accurate when he says that

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the distance was fifty two seventy five
yards away. His wife was looking down

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at her phone when he said,
did you see that? He told her

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what he had just seen and tried
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says he definitely was freaked out.
He had obviously seen something large and frightening

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across the road. There was no
thought of turning back to investigate the dark

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figure that fled into the trees.
I asked the both of them, are

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there many deer in the area,
and they said, yeah, there's so

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many deer at night along back roads
like two two nine that you can't drive

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much faster than fifty miles per hour. Deer hazards are the reason he installed

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those bright fog lights on his vehicle. Final thoughts on that, well,

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get your face out of your phone. People, you're missing an awful lot

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when you come back. Yeah,
it's what the bullhorn is all about.

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hear from the Sasquatch Experience. Choir
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how it goes, Folks, Sasquatch
Experience. It's something else. James James

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Baker not here tonight vance Nesbit,
Matt Arner and Henry has been popping in

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and out, so we'll keep us
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of course, at the window looking
in talking about some rather disturbing thoughts that

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we've had around bigfoot watching us and
guys. It takes me back to reading

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Tom Powell's The Local on page one
forty four, in the chapter called the

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Guardians, I go back to the
story of Dora Bradley, and I don't

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know if you guys are familiar with
this story, ye, And I'll read

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a little bit of it paraphrase it
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stealing from the source material, even
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proper accreditation. Dora Bradley thought everyone
had bigfoots in the woods around the

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home where they grew up. She
certainly did, and she didn't particularly like

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it. They never harmed her,
they just annoyed her. Bigfoots and snakes

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were her childhood enemies. I spoke
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twenty two, two thousand and two. Door is hearing impaired, and so

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must converse on the phone through a
person who can hear me and use sign

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language to convey to her thoughts and
responses. Her husband, Charlie, served

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as a go between our conversation.
It was a unique interview, So that

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in itself is pretty interesting, Like
so you have somebody and oftentimes we go

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back to think about, you know, is there a reason why Bigfoot select

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certain people? And is you know, having an impairment, you know,

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a dolling of one sense? Does
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go back to the folks in the
Cook's forest that I you know, the

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husband was blind, but he was
able right, but they were frequented and

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he was able to understand when they
were around. Dor explained that she grew

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up in an isolated rural household,
a household in Montgomery County, Missouri.

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She was one of eight children living
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Jonesburg. She often slept by an
open window that had no windows screen.

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Cornfields and woods surrounded the house she
lived in. The limestone topography in that

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part of Missouri includes caves. There
were caves around her childhood home, some

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of which were unmapped in the early
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the Bigfoots would sometimes annoy her.
The fact that on summer night she

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slept near an open window without a
screen didn't help. There were several times

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she would be awakened in the middle
of the night and feel a large,

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leathery, hair covered hand on her
chest. She knew what it was.

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It was one of the bigfoots.
She does not like the bigfoots. They

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smelled bad and they made her very
uneasy. But she also knew, for

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many times she saw them that they
would not hurt her. And as you

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go down through this story, I
don't want to read the whole thing,

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of course, but she talks about
one night when she was seven years old.

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She woke up late one summer night. It was a full moon with

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a breeze. She was found on
a bed made of sticks. I felt

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chilly because my back touched a cold
cave wall. I felt chilly because my

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back touched I saw my brother sitting
on a stick bed across from me in

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the small cave. I spelled something
unpleasant. I watched very hard and realized

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it was a dark bigfoot sitting about
five feet from me. I saw another

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bigfoot digging a hole in the dirt. I picked up it, picked up

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the small, dark body of what
might have been a dead infant and put

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it into the earth. So at
some point she was taken from her home

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in the middle of the night.
Her brother too. My brother stood up

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because the bigfoot walked toward us.
It picked up my brother and walked away.

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I cried in The bigfoot sitting next
to me, pulled me closer.

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00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.039
It put my head on its chest. I felt its breast when I pushed

407
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:21.319
its chest. I thought it tried
to nurse me, the way my mother

408
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.359
breastped my baby's sister. I took
my head away from its chest and sat

409
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:29.920
motionlessly on its lap. I saw
the other bigfoot come back. I stood

410
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:31.400
up, and it picked me up. It was like a foot. I

411
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:36.240
was like a football in its arm. I must admit I enjoyed riding because

412
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:40.000
the bigfoot took big steps so gracefully. We went across the cornfield from the

413
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.960
woods to my house. The bigfoot
dropped me off in our garden and I

414
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.880
looked back. It was halfway across
the cornfield in the woods. Think about

415
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:52.160
that, guys, just think about
this. It pulled me out of the

416
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:57.759
window as if I was a rag
doll. Yep, It carried me into

417
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.039
our front yard and went across the
other side of the door beside the road.

418
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:06.759
Like So now I think, you
know, this is an incredibly interesting

419
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:09.639
account because there's repeat visitations here,
right, would you call that habituation?

420
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:17.880
Where where I start to deviate from
habituation to this story is habituation has a

421
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:23.480
tendency to be carried on by the
participant that you're trying to actively engage and

422
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:29.599
keep it. Where in this instant
it's a little kid that's just being repeatedly,

423
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:35.000
repetitively abducted from her window in rural
Missouri. Yeah, yeah, that

424
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.679
would be more of a visitation,
you know. It's yeah, she's not

425
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:45.239
doing anything, you know, consciously
to have these creatures you know, come

426
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:51.000
to her. And it may be
something subconscious though again being a little kid,

427
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.719
you know that's gonna we always hear
stories about them being drawn to children,

428
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:01.719
So that may be something, especially
with with a person that has a

429
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:07.920
hearing issue. They may have a
speech impediment, they may not vocalize the

430
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:12.760
way you know people that don't that
have regular hearing would, so that may

431
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.079
be something that brings them in.
But again, she's not doing this,

432
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:20.360
you know, consciously to say,
hey, come on in and take me

433
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.360
to your cave. You know.
Then that's a good point, man,

434
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:30.639
that's a very good point. I
think maybe disabilities may I don't know if

435
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:37.119
you want to put it in the
in the category of sympathy, but you

436
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:43.280
know, it's a curiosity thing.
So yeah, I talked to Sean earlier

437
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:49.559
today about another case because the show
is, you know, looking in the

438
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:57.280
window right there was a story and
I believe because I went back to go

439
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:02.320
to research some of this, I
heard this probably at best maybe seven years

440
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:10.119
ago. And the story goes,
if any of if any of our listeners

441
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:16.199
know what a transom window is,
a lot of older homes, both urban

442
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:22.159
and suburban homes, had transom windows
that were put in above the kitchen door.

443
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:28.800
Now on average kitchen doors stand about
six and a half feet tall,

444
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.679
and then above that there was a
window and you would have a steel rod

445
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:37.760
that went to the window and you
could crank it open and it would open

446
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:43.679
from the bottom out at about a
forty five degree angle. This was long

447
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:49.519
before there was you know, air
conditioning units put into homes. This was

448
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:55.400
a way to vent the kitchen from
a lot of the heat. And there

449
00:36:55.480 --> 00:37:01.559
was a story that I listened to
a husband and wife, and I believe

450
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:07.559
it was a brother and sister of
the husband and wife that were sitting at

451
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:13.519
a kitchen table in rural America,
and if I remember correctly, I believe

452
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:20.880
it was in Oklahoma, and the
owner of the home. He was sitting

453
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:24.400
at the kitchen table. They're having
a nice conversation, and he happened to

454
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:30.800
look up at the transom window and
he saw two eyes, a nose,

455
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:37.360
and a very large mouth on very
dark leathery skin that was kind of hunched

456
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:45.679
over looking in on them through the
transom window. If it's hunched over looking

457
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:52.159
at them, and the window is
already seven feet tall, this thing would

458
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.760
have had to have been eight feet
tall looking in on them. And he

459
00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:59.920
kind of freaked out. I mean, he definitely freaked out, but he

460
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.679
didn't want to cause panic to everybody
else, but he pointed it out.

461
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:08.679
He's like, yeah, this,
I'm not sure that this is a malevolent

462
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:17.400
activity. I think it's probably more
curiosity. What are these other bipedal creatures

463
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:24.199
doing that creates so much threat against
us? And peering in to watch what

464
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:30.440
you know, you and myself and
everybody else would be doing. In that

465
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:36.679
type of an environment. But what
we see that painted such a picture for

466
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:39.480
me. What we see through these
stories, you know, is a lack

467
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:45.719
of malevolency, like you say,
a very much you know, curiosity,

468
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:49.880
you know, of these creatures.
Now I have another story from out in

469
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:53.239
rock and Mountain Uncle Ernie. We
collected the story from when we did the

470
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:59.760
presentation up on over the mountain up
in Rocking, and he was out in

471
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:05.800
his cabin one night in the spring
playing his banjo, you know, just

472
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.840
jamming, having a good time,
and as he looked up to you know,

473
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:14.519
a window in the cabin, he
sees these two gigantic eyes in this

474
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.719
huge, large head looking at him
in the window, and it's just kind

475
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:23.079
of there, mesmerized by him,
and he just locks eyes with it,

476
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:28.480
and he just keeps playing his banjo. He goes down and he looks at

477
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:35.119
his banjo, looks back up and
it's gone right. But he had this

478
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:42.880
encounter that just left him completely stunned
that wow, you know, I just

479
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:45.280
had this intense moment, you know, this eye to eye with this creature.

480
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:51.760
He described these very large dark eyes
and but never felt a sense of

481
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:58.199
dread or worry or fear. He
was just amazed as he's playing his banjo

482
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:02.039
with this thing staring at at him
and his cabin. But do you get

483
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:09.199
the sense that the fact that it
just may be the curiosity of here's music

484
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:17.199
being played on a band show and
there's like no aggressive ability. It's this

485
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:25.039
curiosity of what's happening, and maybe
it wants to learn what it is that

486
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:30.800
humans are doing. Stepping back to
Dora Bradley's stories, like, I really

487
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:42.440
think Dora was being if the story's
true, let's say that she was being

488
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:47.639
almost used as a filler to replace
this grief, this grief object and this

489
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:52.320
repeat visitations. I mean, here's
another story, guys, from Dora.

490
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.000
Another time we had some sightings a
big foot in our cornfield, in our

491
00:40:55.039 --> 00:41:00.400
backyard, but very dark to see. We smelled them. On the night

492
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.920
of my graduation, I went home
and cried because I lived in boarding school

493
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:07.760
for the death for twelve years and
it became my second home. I missed

494
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.320
it. Everyone slept, but I
cried quietly in my bed. I saw

495
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.119
bigfoot coming and sitting by my window. My bed was now away from the

496
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:19.679
window. I stopped crying fast and
closed my eyes hard because I did not

497
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:23.760
want the Bigfoot to bother me anymore. And this was the last time I

498
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:30.039
saw Bigfoot, so you know,
she may have aged out from its interest

499
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:32.719
or because she wasn't close to the
wall. Now she has moved away,

500
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:38.079
it had been a lot more of
a well scenario. And then later on

501
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:43.360
she goes to say that her brother
had details and he was very quiet about

502
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.360
it. He didn't offer any up, but he did tell his brother's wife,

503
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:51.000
or he told his wife about things. And you know, just to

504
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:57.719
think about that, like putting yourself
in the position of this child and being

505
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:02.440
repetitively taken from your home in the
middle of the night, these things showing

506
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:06.599
up and watching you whenever they wanted
to, being in your cornfield, and

507
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:10.000
you could just you know, this
is crazy crypto creatures. Ask how insane

508
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:13.599
story? How long ago was it? Well, she recanted the story to

509
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:17.480
Tom Palell in two thousand and two, so you know, depending on how

510
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:21.280
old she was, you're thinking maybe
twenty years prior to it, right,

511
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.519
or more. So you could be
talking about stories from the seventies to eighties.

512
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:30.559
But when we go back and we
read listen to some of the details

513
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:35.079
of this story, you know,
being taken taken to a cave, the

514
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:38.519
stick betting. You know, we
you know the nests that we see from

515
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:44.719
the Olympic project, you know,
are they similar construction? Could we get

516
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.719
door to look at these? Now
when identify any of those similar structures?

517
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:52.239
Right? Burying they're dead, right, there's an eyewitness encounter of their dead

518
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:57.760
being buried. Like, there's some
great details in this that if these stories

519
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.280
had happened, and the fact that
they were on in two thousand and two,

520
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:06.559
before this hoopola, before the Bigfoot
craze really started, we didn't put

521
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.199
this information out there, folks.
This information really wasn't readily available. So

522
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:15.000
what adds a little bit more credence
to this story for me is, though

523
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:22.360
it seems fantastic, there's a lot
of details in that story now that are

524
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:28.400
kind of you know, commonplace knowledge
that weren't in two thousand and two,

525
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.719
right right, Matt thoughts on that, Oh, we also have Henry back,

526
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:37.599
Henry, Hey, we do.
My laptop is screwed. I think

527
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:45.239
it fell. It fell on the
floor of the screens. Now that yeah,

528
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:47.159
Well, I'm sorry, Henry.
Go ahead, Matt. I was

529
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:53.280
gonna say, I have I have
another encounter that I sent to you that

530
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:59.280
was investigated by from our friend less
less than Kevich. And this happened literally

531
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:04.119
right in my back yard for all
intents and purposes. So there was a

532
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:08.639
young girl, and this is there's
a lot of similarities to the door incident,

533
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:14.920
and you may not they may not
be as apparent as what you think.

534
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:17.800
So there was a young girl.
She was ten years old, and

535
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:23.280
this happened in the fall of nineteen
ninety four, and she was living in

536
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:28.840
the town of jim Thorpe, which
the street that she lives on backs up

537
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:34.719
to a mountain. Now I look
out my front window and I could see

538
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:43.000
the one part of that small mountain
that she had this incident with. That

539
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:52.000
mountain itself was old coal mines that
haven't been used in probably eighty ninety years,

540
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:57.280
so a lot of the forces has
regrown, you know, taken over.

541
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:01.000
There's some beautiful, beautiful stretches back. But again, she's ten years

542
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:06.840
old. She's at her house and
her family's there, and this is about

543
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:12.280
six thirty in the in the fall, so it's not quite dark yet.

544
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:17.239
But as she's in the kitchen,
she sees a face staring in the kitchen

545
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:22.519
window above the sink. And the
one thing is is that where the window

546
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:29.480
was, it was about seven feet
off the ground. So she said that

547
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:34.719
once she looked at it, and
now this is where I'm gonna say,

548
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.920
Okay, this isn't the same.
When she looked at it, it buried

549
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:42.320
its teeth. Now, she couldn't
tell if it was a smile or if

550
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:47.679
this was an active aggression. And
again, I know with certain primates when

551
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:53.440
they do show their teeth sometimes that
is an active aggression as opposed to it

552
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:57.400
being hey, you know they're smiling
at me. No, it's not,

553
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.039
you know, it's just like a
dog baring its teeth. She said it

554
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:05.760
was only just a fleeing glimpse,
but she was able to make details about

555
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:10.360
the face about what she saw.
She was scared. She started screaming.

556
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:15.199
She ran in to get her parents. By the time that they came back,

557
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:22.000
whatever was there was going. Now, the one similarity between this and

558
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.280
Dora is first the age. You
know, she's a ten year old girl.

559
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.760
And now again we don't know if
it was being aggressive or you know,

560
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:38.000
was what it was doing by showing
the teeth. But Sean had mentioned

561
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:45.760
that Dora's incident happened in Missori,
which is very much filled with a limestone

562
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:52.840
materials, So there's limestone caves all
over the place, and she mentions about

563
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:57.599
going to the cave. The one
thing that really kind of stands out with

564
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:01.480
this is literally, you know,
two hundred and three hundred yards away from

565
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:07.280
where this house is, there's some
abandoned coal mines in a bandoned mineshafts back

566
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:14.360
there, so that could be utilized
as well. Now I've been in this

567
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.760
area, we have not had other
than that. That was the only encounter

568
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:22.639
that we've had on that that particular
side of the mountain, except for there

569
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:27.320
was an incident that happened back in
late the nineteen forties that my dad told

570
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:31.000
me about. I've known him for
you know, fifty years. He tells

571
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:36.480
me that he thinks he saw something, you know, and in the backyard,

572
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.880
which is which is literally on that
it's on that same ridge. You

573
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:45.880
were so pissed. Can I just
don't know? You were, like my

574
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:50.599
mom told We knew about my mom's
incident, like the night had happened,

575
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.199
you know, But my Dad's like, you know what, I think I

576
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:57.639
saw something, and and he's told
me about this. I'm like, holy

577
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:00.639
cow, why did you why did
you tell me earlier? But anyways,

578
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:07.199
regardless with going through the window again, it didn't make any attempt to enter

579
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:13.000
the house, but it was staring
inside and it was apparently staring directly at

580
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:19.199
the at the young girl. So
again you know, it's that it's a

581
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:23.320
factor of it being curious. But
again with it bearing its teeth again,

582
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:27.239
that's a sign that kind of concerns
me a little bit. You know.

583
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.280
Granted this happened in nineteen ninety four, but you know it was it was

584
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:35.639
an active aggression. But again through
that area, there's been no other reports

585
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:40.559
however. Just that's actually to the
front of where I live. To the

586
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:45.840
back is another mountain range, which
is where our friend Less you know,

587
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:51.800
had some experiences. We've had other
BFRO listening encounters back there as well,

588
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:57.400
so you know, so you know, it's not like a real squatchy area,

589
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.639
but there there's been some reports and
that was an interesting report that came

590
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:04.960
through. Matt. We got a
question from our friend Jamie Sean and matter,

591
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:08.000
you're receiving more reports from your area, and that's a great encounter with

592
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:13.599
the tail. Yes, thank you, thank you, and shout out to

593
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:20.400
the kings Is. So yes,
So we really haven't had that many if

594
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.920
we get an encounter in this particular
area. I'm in the My main research

595
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:29.079
area is north central PA, but
I actually live in the in the southern

596
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:34.760
Poconos. We do occasionally get a
report here and there, but then you

597
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:38.559
know, it's just like word of
mouth, like you know, from like

598
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:46.239
the two or three four parties involved
away where I was actually just talking about,

599
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:50.519
you know, the research I do, and the guy says, did

600
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:53.559
you know that there's a family bigfoot
there living behind your house? I'm like,

601
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:58.519
I never heard that before, you
know, but yeah, I'm like,

602
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.679
who saw that? Well, a
friend of a friend of a friend.

603
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:06.800
Now. The only thing with that
though, is that again with less

604
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:13.079
Less has had some very you know, viable encounters. Whoop, He's had

605
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.480
some great encounters in that area.
And there was neighbors too that I've had

606
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:22.280
encounters in that particular area, which
again is behind my house and up over

607
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.639
the mountain. They're actually on the
north side. We're on the on the

608
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:30.159
south side of that mountain. But
as for any recent reports coming in,

609
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:35.239
not a whole lot. I think
that if they do come through this area,

610
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.039
again, this was a fall instant. When this girl saw this,

611
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:44.119
saw the creature at the window.
Right. The incidence that at Less's in

612
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:49.440
his neighbors generally happened in the fall. The bfr O reports generally are in

613
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:53.760
the fall. So I think that
they're coming through. I think it's basically

614
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:58.360
more or less like a travelway.
Now. The other thing, too,

615
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:01.079
is not that far from you.
You see Appolie Trail. We get a

616
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:06.800
lot of reports in the winter time. And what I always think is that,

617
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.360
you know, the group up in
Sussex County is making its way down

618
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:15.119
this way. You know, maybe
because of the the food, maybe because

619
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:19.800
of additional cover, maybe it's not
as much snowpack up here. So again

620
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:23.760
I do think that there's definitely I
don't think it's a permanent population. I

621
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:29.800
think it's a transient that comes through
in especially in the fall and over to

622
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:32.000
the south of US on the Appalachian
Trail in the wintertime. I think those

623
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:37.599
are the active times there. No, I agree, I would agree with

624
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.199
you, And you know, Matt, I would like to add on just

625
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:46.480
a question to you. When there
is peering in the window, how do

626
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:51.440
you feel do you think that's a
malevolent thing, or do you think it's

627
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:58.639
just pure curiosity? You know,
I think with doors incident, in the

628
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:01.960
incident that you brought up, I
think that that's just curiosity. However,

629
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:06.599
like I said, with this,
with this incident that was reported, you

630
00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:12.000
know, in that less investigated,
I'm not so sure. And again I'm

631
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:15.519
looking back at you know, she
was able to get a very detailed look

632
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:19.880
at the face. But again I
go back to the teeth. You know,

633
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:23.639
if you have something showing its teeth, you know, and we don't

634
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:29.360
know, you know, a whole
lot about you know, what that could

635
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:34.159
mean, you know for that.
So but again I know with primates when

636
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:37.880
they show their teeth, and that's
generally that you know, Yeah, that's

637
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:42.599
not a great sign. No,
I agreed. You know, there was

638
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:47.280
another story. It's not so much
peering in the window, but it was

639
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:53.639
a five year old boy that notified
his mother and father, primarily the father,

640
00:52:54.199 --> 00:53:00.760
that there's gorillas in the backyard that
he saw through the window night after

641
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:07.719
night after night. And the father
was so aggravated at the fact that the

642
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:14.199
apple trees that they had growing in
the backyard were stripped of apples, right,

643
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.119
and the kids like, no,
the gorillas in the backyard are taking

644
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:22.679
the apples, and the father just
blew it off. He knew nothing of

645
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:28.119
the subject matter. But here this
five year old is watching this stuff through

646
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:35.360
his window, watching a primate,
well who knows, taking the apples off

647
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:39.119
the trees. And you know,
the fathers aggravated at the fact that his

648
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:46.039
apple orchard is being stripped. And
that's another interesting aspect, well, very

649
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:52.280
very interesting observations from that young man, you know, the five year old

650
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:57.239
boy. There is also stories from
Ohio of these things coming up and watching

651
00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:01.159
their TV. I tried to find
the exact story. I couldn't find it.

652
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:07.079
I mean, there's just a lot. There's a lot of stories involving

653
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:14.440
you're watching a cool episode of whatever
it is you're watching, and the outside

654
00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:20.159
no, no, no, thank
you, sign me off. No,

655
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:24.079
you know, And I think this
wasn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong.

656
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:30.559
It was either Standgorn or Erica Altman. They had investigated an encounter in

657
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:35.880
of all places, Montgomery County,
Pennsylvania. Now it was in the rural

658
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:39.320
part it's Philly suburbs. But they
had said that there was something coming up

659
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:45.280
to the window and going back to
the whole gorilla thing. The person said

660
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:50.480
in the basement, went in the
basement where this thing was apparently peering in.

661
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.239
They had a gigantic stuff toy gorilla
that they wanted an affair. Wow.

662
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:59.519
And then as soon as they took
it away. Yes, yeah,

663
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.239
the story you're talking about. Yes, so I yeah, if you would

664
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:09.039
have pulled that up, that that
was actually a fantastic encounter. And again

665
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:14.199
it's in a rural part of Mintgomery
County, but still you know, relatively

666
00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:20.599
close to Philadelphia. But yeah,
this whatever it was, it was attracted

667
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:24.800
to this gigantic stuffed toy, you
know, gorilla. Right. I have

668
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:30.280
to say, though, the misconception
about Pennsylvania is, you know, everybody

669
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:36.119
thinks Pittsburgh and Philly, and they
forget about those thousands upon millions of acres

670
00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:43.079
in between forests, right, and
you could be outside Philadelphia not far and

671
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:47.639
you're right back in woodlands like it
happens a lot of UFO sightings, you

672
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:52.880
know, in those areas as well. That isn't conducive of the woods,

673
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:58.880
but nonetheless important important to notate that, you know, just because there are

674
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:01.960
counties where these stories come from that
might seem a little outlandish to think about

675
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:06.960
the geography as a whole, not
just the city. Yeah. Percent of

676
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:13.960
Pennsylvania is what urbanized and the right
wilderness. Yeah, Matt Jenna. I

677
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:15.679
met a woman who told me about
an old man in the woods that would

678
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:20.639
look in windows in the Poconos.
If she ever runs into her again,

679
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:22.559
I plan on getting her story.
Share that with us, Share that with

680
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:25.679
that. Yeah, and I'll give
us just a second here where folks,

681
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:29.880
can you know, connect with us
on social media? You know, one

682
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:31.599
more time. We are running out
of time yet here for tonight. But

683
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:36.599
I do want to hit a couple
points. I didn't check the banner across

684
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:38.880
the bottom. You can see it'st
the Forest County Bigfoot Festival June ninth,

685
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:43.880
Sunday only in marion Ville, PA. I'll be there. I'll probably be

686
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:47.840
hanging out with our friends at Gotten
Knockers or terrorizing Bill Rigby at the Agents

687
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:53.119
of the Unexplained. It's small Town
Monsters Monsterfest June twenty eighth or twenty ninth.

688
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:58.800
They can't, Ohio, get your
tickets now before they're sold out,

689
00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:02.000
folks. He definitely want to have
a little bit of information there. Small

690
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:07.119
Town Monsters Fest we're returning with a
live podcast. We're leaving some room in

691
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:12.320
that promo in case anybody else is
joining us. But you folks do not

692
00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:15.400
want to miss this event. It's
going to be a hell of a lot

693
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.840
of fun. We had a lot
of fun in Ohio and I can't wait

694
00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:22.400
until we get to hang out more
with our listeners and folks. As always,

695
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:28.119
you can report your siting and encounter
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696
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697
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:37.320
If you go to our website there
is a report you're siting. We'll

698
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:39.239
take it. We'll keep it confidential. We'll talk about it on the show

699
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:43.800
if you want us to. But
even if it's not local to us,

700
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:47.199
we have a network of investigators of
people we trust that we work with that

701
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:52.239
we can get it investigated and we
can get the job done. You're here,

702
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:55.239
Vance, Where can folks find you? My friend? They can find

703
00:57:55.239 --> 00:58:02.480
me sitting in this chair right here. I'm on Instagram at vance nesvid,

704
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:10.480
Underscore st and news and and you
can find me on Facebook at vance nesbit

705
00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:17.800
and Sasquatch Experience. Well, there's
Vance Henry where can folks find you?

706
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:25.559
Oh? Hold on, where can
they find you? Just just like Vance,

707
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:30.280
I can find me sitting here in
this chair. Henry May on Facebook.

708
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:35.519
Henry May on Facebook, Matt talk
to me, buddy, give them

709
00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:40.000
Mickey Arnor on Facebook. Cryptic Wilderness. We do have a new project,

710
00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:45.800
I keep saying, but it is
probably by Monster Festival will be out.

711
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:49.440
That will be probably the premier way
to get a hold of me. You

712
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:54.800
and and a few others, but
at Cryptic Wilderness and Matt mckeyarner. Folks,

713
00:58:55.679 --> 00:59:00.079
I'm Sean Forker. I'm my name
everywhere. You can find me on

714
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:04.280
Facebook, Instagram, I'm a social
media who are I'm all over the place.

715
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:07.280
I love to connect with you.
I love to hear your stories and

716
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.840
I love to just you know.
This is this is a big thing for

717
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:15.280
me. This is a passion of
my life. This is my thirtieth year.

718
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:19.000
This year, guys, of we're
going into thirty years of research for

719
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:22.559
me, and it doesn't get old. It gets frustrating, but it doesn't

720
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:28.639
get old. And again, if
you feel so compelled, Jarrett, we

721
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:30.440
love you, guys. We do
this show for you, the listeners.

722
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:34.480
If it wasn't for you would just
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723
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:37.159
fun and though it's fun, it's
not as fun as it could be.

724
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:39.599
With all of you. We thank
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734
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:23.800
at the house because I used mine
this morning for coffee? Yeah you did?

735
01:00:24.440 --> 01:00:28.360
How about that, Henry? Why
don't you take us out with those

736
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:32.039
dulcet tones. You'll be good,
be good at it, folks. Thanks

737
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