EP 101: I Know... There's Bigfoot in Ohio

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The views and opinions expressed by the
guests of Sasquatch Experience do not necessarily reflect

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the opinion of the host, sponsors, or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience.

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As always, listener discretion is advised. We got someone or something crawling around

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out here? Does a legend walk
among us working in the forests of our

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world? Did you see what it
was? Well? Did a person or

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an animal? Or I can't go. Oh if I know, as if

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my thunder light came on and I
just happened to glimp and see this thing

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running across the yard. A good
side man or something works like a man.

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I don't know what it was.
For over fifteen years, we've talked

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with scientists, researchers, investigators,
and witnesses trying to gain insight and proof

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around the existence of this mysterious and
Jesus quiet, he hello, get somebody

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out here. What's going to announce
there? That's able? Mentions about six

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four nine. I don't know,
easy announce there? Yes, the working

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right here? Oh, okay,
hand on, yeah, got it's bigger?

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Okay, what's he doing in your
yard? We're gonna move You join

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us as we continue into the investigation
of the Sasquatch Experience. And good evening

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everyone, Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience
for Monday, April twenty ninth, twenty

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twenty four. I'm Sean the Fort
Chop Forker. That's Vance Nesbit over,

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there's James Baker, Hen Remain in
the bottom corner, and Matt Arner almost

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in the center square. It's kind
of like Hollywood Squares without the Hollywood and

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well, no, we still have
the dirty jokes and you know, you

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know, we still haven't and I'm
Matt for two hundred, No we can't.

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Guys. It is warm here in
the studio. I'm a little effervescent

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and the lights are having a good
time with me. But yeah, I

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think we're having a heat wave here
in Pennsylvania. Terrible, terrible storms reached

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across the Midwest this weekend, but
hopefully any of our listeners or friends out

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in that area were safe. You
know, Thoughts and good wishes go out

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to all those folks. And that's
gonna ramp up again this week severe weather.

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Quite the phenomena going on this past
weekend. It seems like every time

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we've done a show here the last
few weeks we've had that same kind of

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opening message. It's that time of
year, but nonetheless it's still sad to

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see that. You know, that
just horrible destruction. I give you that.

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It is, it really is.
And we have friends all over the

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country, all over the you know
world, and you know, we just

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want to make sure everybody's so and
think of all the squad structures that might

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get blown down nature. Yeah,
that's a chance. Guys, we're talking

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bigfoot in Ohio. I know there's
bigfoot in Ohio, and we you know,

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we got the upcoming Ohio Bigfoot Conference
this weekend. We'll go ahead and

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get a run down here. I
want to be I always thought it was

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pronounced Idaho. Oh, no,
you are. And the speakers this weekend

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will be Matt Prewett, doctor Jeff
Meldrim, who's actually live on Sasquatch Watch

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Radio right now as we speak,
Doug high Chick of course on the show,

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Darby Orst, Cliff Barrickman, and
the conf MC the one the Only,

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Adam Davies, Adam Davis of proof
that Cliff Berrickman and Jeff Muldrum are

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not the same person, correct,
they just be just have the same beer.

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So that's gonna be this weekend at
Salt Fork State Park in Cambridge,

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Ohio. Gonna be a great time. We have a good time every time

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we go. Did we go last
year? James? I think we opted

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out last year was the year before
because I think something else came at the

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same time and there was something else
going on. Right. Anyhow, we

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always have a wonderful time there.
Usually you'll fight us in the bar.

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We decided we're going to be a
little bit more professional this year maybe,

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and we're just gonna have a good
time talking about Bigfoot and hanging out with

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our friends, because, you know, the networking aspect of it, the

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social part of it, sometimes a
lot more fun than the subject itself.

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But you know, Henry, as
you and I were talking before we went

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on the air, the Ohio Bigfoot
Conference goes way back. This isn't a

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new new event. It's probably the
longest running bigfoot event there is. It

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is this is It was started in
nineteen eighty nine by well I consider the

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godfather of Ohio Bigfoot, that being
mister Don Keaty, the affable Bigfoot bulldog

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himself, right Don Keating, Of
course, go ahead, Henry, It

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had too many people at the conference. He had maybe forty or fifty originally,

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right, And I mean, look
at look how much the conference has

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grown since then. For thirty five
years. This is the thirty sixth year

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they're going to be holding it.
Yeah, you're talking huge crowds. It

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gets now we I mean when we
went Henry Even, I think the first

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conference you and I attended together,
I think JB there's maybe a few hundred

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people there. Now you're talking maybe
a thousand or more that come to this

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event. And you know, everybody
gets together and they talk about you know,

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Bigfoot. But the thing I like
about it the most, at least

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in this setting to me, you
know Mark de Worth, you know,

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in the Ohio Bigfoot Organization, they
really put together kind of the upper Echelona

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speakers. You know, these are
the the brains of research. And I

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think that that gives everybody a good
opportunity, especially those of us, those

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of us here in the East Coast
who may not get out west at some

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of those larger events, to be
exposed to Meldrum or Cliff. And you

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know, it does get to be
a little social stetic, you know setting.

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Doctor Meldrim's always very approachable. So
we've always had, right, We've

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always had good interactions. So great
event, and like Henry said, been

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going on for over thirty years,
and of course Don Keating started that.

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And you know, as we talk
about Bigfoot and Ohio, guys, the

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personalities associated with bigfooting. Not only
is Ohio one of the most popular states

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for sightings, it's one of the
most popular states for researchers and eclectic researchers.

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Would you not agree with that,
Henry, Oh, absolutely. I

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mean the cast of characters I can
think of, well, two very eccentric

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individuals, the late Dallas Kilburn and
Wayne Burton, Yeah, who claim to

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have seen sasquatch everywhere and claim to
have photographed sasquatch everywhere. Well, and

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they had their own documentaries at the
time before the documentaries were cool, not

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being disparaging simple men, right,
They weren't going to right the world on

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fire or light the world on fire, rather in the IQ department. But

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they did have a passion for what
they did. Did not always come across

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as polished or sound, but had
a passion for what they did. And

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of course Henry and I had a
few run ins with them over the years

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in different hoaxing situations. It's it
was an interesting time, wasn't it,

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Henry those early two thousands? It
was now. I actually met now As

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back in two thousand and eight.
Interesting individual. Actually got to go to

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his house. Oh really, do
you got to see his pictures and his

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Did you see any of the videos? Solid pictures? It didn't seen too

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many of the videos. So yeah, you gotta be careful going to people's

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homes and watching videos. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, you got

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to make sure that tapes marked folks. Ye, yes, but very interesting

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characters. But then there's also some
really good established researchers such as Don Keating,

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Rich Lahmonica, Ron Schaffner, Jody
Cook. You can't forget Jody Cook.

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He has been there since probably just
as long as Don Keating has.

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Yes, he has. He started
deciding when he was in the army right

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right now. Don Keating also one
point in time August second, nineteen ninety

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two, and we've written several blogs
on this, and I think we've talked

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about it in the past, not
in this version of the show, but

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with Don himself. Don was out
filming an area where they had had sightings

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in Kashoktan County and had taken a
bunch of video and hadn't watched that video.

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He just kind of put it away. In December, he goes back

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and watches this video and on this
video he hit captures what may have possibly

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been a white Bigfoot on film on
VHS. Now, you know, imagine

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taking this and seeing it at that
time. Boy, he didn't see it

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at the time. He's just taken
this video, putting it back. Then

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he pops the video in later He's
like, holy shit, this was right

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here see it. And it was
quite an experience. Yes, as Mike

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puts in the chat, you know, we got Amy Boo. We have

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Robert Morgan, Robert W. Morgan, the Donald Pleasants of Bigfoot. He

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is an adventurer, an incredibly nice
man. Interviewed Robert quite a bit in

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the two thousands, and he would
always finish our conversations with with Eric Altman

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and I that I have in my
hand here a glass of wine, and

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I'm raising it to a toast,
a toast to you fellow true seekers.

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And that was always the way Robert
liked his wine. He still does like

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his wine, by the way,
just a you know incredible who had a

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lot of different adventures. But Ohio, I don't want to say inundated because

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that has a negative connotation, but
Ohio just loaded with individuals who really went

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for that quest a Bigfoot from that
eighties into I guess even today, though

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most of them may be retired,
they you know, are still still made

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a lasting impact. In fact,
when we at the last Ohio Bigfoot conference,

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Don was selling, yeah, a
booklet, right, what was it,

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Henry? It was just Bigfoot in
Salt Fork, was it not?

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Yes? He only made what twenty
five copies because he wasn't sure he was

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going to sell them all and they
were gone. And what I don't know

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how many he bought, but I
got a copy of it. It's right

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behind me here. And then,
of course, you know, you got

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Doug Waller, you know, who's
also written many books. Doug books are

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really I call them case studies into
the you know, just books of sightings

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that have happened, and then the
BFRO database, and you've got a lot

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of good researchers from there, you
know, Mark de Werth, Mark Mazel.

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You know, again, we could
sit here and name drop all these

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folks because you know, Ohio.
Again, a lot of sightings are are

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friends to the west there, though
I still think Pennsylvania has more also an

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eclectic group of researchers no different than
Pennsylvania. I think there's something about these

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two states that neighbor that we share
some really good squatching grounds, but some

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also really strange people that are and
include you know, West Virginia that you

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know spectrum. Also, I don't
think West Virginia. West Virginia has as

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many reports or as many investigators.
You've got to remember vance when I'm talking

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about I'm talking about prominent investigators.
Ohio really popped the cap on. Oh

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yeah, I mean, oh God, like growing up, those are where

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all the stories were coming from.
You know, we had Sam Sherry and

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Bob France, but Ohio had quite
a bit go ahead. Henry west Jones

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originally from Ohio, but he lives
in West Virginia and he investigates in West

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Virginia and Ohio. So well,
so there you go, there's another native

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son of doctor Jones. I mean, just the rich history of Big Henry.

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How many sightings have do you have
an accurate number on your head right

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now of how many settings have taken
place? In Ohio. No, I

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don't have an accurate number in my
head, but I know, damn it,

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you're fired, rain Man. That's
it. One jump. And I

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know that Ohio is one of the
top five as far as the BVFUR is

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concerned for reports three hundred and twenty
three sightings in the BFO database as of

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today, with Pennsylvania one hundred and
twenty seven, which is not right.

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But you know, we'll give it
that. Yes, I'm biased. I

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can't help it. I'm biased.
It was biased to it, that's understandable.

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I think one in decividual we don't
need to forget is Tom Page.

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Tom from Ohio. He was a
millionaire who funded several researchers, including Peter

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Burn and Roger Patterson. Right now, Henry, why what do you think

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it was about then? That's different
than now that you had a couple millionaires

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Willingly able to part with money for
this quest. You don't have that today.

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You had Wally Hearshon for a while, but I don't think Wally's that

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much into it anymore. But you
know, in the fifties and sixties and

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so on, you had Tom Slick
and then you had Tom Page. The

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two Tom's exactly. But you don't
have that today. So if if you're

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a millionaire out there listening, you
know we can we like money, you

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want to throw some at us,
Henry, that's terrible. That's terrible,

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Baker. You have to behave yourself. You're on probation, you know,

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you make that one not one,
Joe, you can leave the stay.

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Yeah, but yeah, well better
than some. But you know, as

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we go into it, there he
goes the latest sighting that guys out of

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Ohio that I was reading today.
Oh oh really kind of. It really

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gave me goosebumps a little bit.
It's the latest one that was recorded in

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Jefferson County, which I don't believe
too far away from what were salt forks

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in Guernsey County. Is that right, Henry, Yes, yes, but

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Jefferson County is not far off.
The report goes on July ninth, at

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approximately ten am, I noticed my
five chickens were missing. The chicken coop

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was full of feathers, but no
bodies or blood. I did a perimeter

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check and came across an extremely large
footprint. I went back to the house

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and brought down a tape measure to
the footprint. And measured, measured it,

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and it took pictures with the tape
measure beside it. The footprint measured

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eighteen inches in width, a length
of eighteen inches with nine to ten inches

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wide. So almost there you go
again, Matt, that perfect, that

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perfect ratio. There a footprint.
On the twenty third of July, Jim

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Thompson, BFR, investigator of Ohio, had contacted me and came out to

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investigate. During Jim's first visit,
he found four more footprints near the original

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footprint, and he stated that the
other footprints were about four feet spread apart

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from each other, so you have
like a four foot gait in between those

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eighteen and a half eighteen long,
nineteen to ten foot wide footprints. On

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July twenty fourth, at approximately twelve
thirty eight am, I heard some sort

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of yelping noise coming from one end
of my property and heard a quick response

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come from the other end of my
property. At night time, every now

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and then on my property I get
an eerie feeling that something is watching me.

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There have been other strange noises,
growls and hows. These noises have

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happened after the prints were found.
There's no witnesses doesn't it seem like there

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was any sighting associated with it.
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something had to have taken them.
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a minute. The follow up report
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the event through a mutual Not knowing
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who called him and gave me directions. I met the witness walking along

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the road. He had come out
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is hard to find. He gave
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made our way back to his place. He had been sitting on his front

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porch the morning of the ninth of
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cup, he noticed his chickens were
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the rooster crow. As he walked
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the ground inside the pen was covered
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not latched, and inside the coop
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and no blood. And of course, thinking a raccoon or coyote could have

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taken them, he started looking around
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might have been taken. As he's
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side of the creek, and the
muddy finds a very large print. So

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there you go, right like again, James following the James following the Henry

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May method of think Bigfoot last is
going through and you know, process of

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elimination which could have taken these these
chickens. Now, Matt, you and

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I also have a mutual friend who
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had a lot of unusual activity near
the chicken coop with missing chickens. Mm

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hm. So you get you're lining
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And now our friend has had game
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of a moot point because aside from
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on occasion, really hasn't gained anything
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Sure, what do you think about
that, Matt? An interesting report kind

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of makes the missing chickens, the
no blood, the footprints kind of give

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me that eerie vocalizations. And you
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I would want to look at too
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something open that door, because if
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a fox, raccoon, they're going
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know, sometimes raccoons will try to
manipulate a latch. Bears can manipulate a

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latch. But you know, if
it's a certain build of a coup and

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maybe something that you know, you
need you know, a thumb or you

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need, yes absolutely to uh to
open which would which would be of interest?

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And then taking a look at the
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you know, how do they match
are they Are you sure that they're not

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bear tracks, because again, bears
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know, the certain latches. To
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a double track. But if it
looks very similar to to what you

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know, what we normally see as
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you have some strong circumstantial evidence there. Then it is a matter too,

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I of trying to find what they
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I mean I've seen animals get to
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there's still going to be some sort
of scraps, there are still gonna be

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led, There's still going to be
some innerds around that that they might not

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necessarily like, they might not like
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to find that would be key as
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of a chicken corpse anywhere right whatsoever. And they found it interesting that you

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brought up James's name as an investigator. When we go to our news break,

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there's another report that he investigated in
Ohio, so stick around for that.

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Yeah, he's a very Again we
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boots on the ground, very responsive
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we see. And you know,
folks, I don't think appreciate how important

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that is, the timely reporting of
a bigfoot sighting and how soon we can

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get boots on the ground to collect
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know, it seems silly that we
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but it's really important because you know, time is everything, especially if

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you want to collect some sort of
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And so you know, folks,
we have networked across the country with

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researchers everywhere. We've got good rapport
with people report your citing or encounter info

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at Sasquatch experience dot com. We
take it seriously, we take it confidentially,

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and we'll be glad to share your
report with the investigator. We don't

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have to talk about it on the
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mouths. Sometimes anonymity is a big
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remain you know, anonymous, that's
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important thing is that you have an
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you know, it's not about listen. You know, I think we're comfortable

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with our show being as big as
it is. We're not here to you

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know, be social media icons.
We're here to talk about bigfoot because we

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love the research, we love the
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You know, between all of us, it's really important to us that

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you folks have an outlet to share
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we can we can respond and get
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Matt, and I don't know if
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like we're on a we're on a
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discover something soon. Yeah, I
get your point, But you know what

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I think with a lot of us
that that have that experience, and and

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they know there's those that know.
And if we can all embrace each other

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that we know what this is,
we know it, we've seen it,

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we felt it, we know and
if we can all embrace each other on

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that, that's our own community and
you know what where it goes too from

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there? Do we have to prove
it to the entire world? I'm not

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sure, But as long as we
all stick together on the knower, I

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don't know. I mean, knowing's
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validation to everyone else that's doubted you
or you know it is it does feel

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nice. And you know, I
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State Park because that park in itself
has had a lot of activity, and

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you know, we'll talk about the
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little bit here, But you know, you talk about hotspots and places where

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we don't know why they're so central, these sightings. You know, you

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have the Chestnut Ridge not far from
that in Pennsylvania. These places are geographic

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hotspots for a reason. I've had
really good friends and fellow researchers that have

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had experiences in Salt Fork and I
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doubt a lot that comes from Salt
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on conference weekends. But yeah,
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the break, we'll start talking about
Salt Fork State Park, what could potentially

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be one of the Bigfoot capitals on
the well close to east coast. It's

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more mid the gateway to the Midwest
there in Ohio, Folks, We're going

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to jump to the news the big
Foot bullhorn. We'll be right back right

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after this. Stay tuned now,
Steve a symbol. I live in Ohio,

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and anyone who knows anything about Ohio
knows that even the word Ohio is

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an old Native American word. It
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And I don't know what's going on
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poor white people love Caroline. They
can't seem to get enough of it.

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I didn't even know what I was
looking at at first. I was just

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driving, like, why are all
these white people so sleepy out of it?

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Ah, Yes, it's time to
start pulling the pins on the Ohio

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joke grenades. Sean Palker and myself
will provide the grenades against Matt Arner's law.

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Enforcement judgment. But James Baker,
he's our official recognized pinpuller. Welcome

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to this edition of the Bakefoot Bullhorn. Right here on the Sasquatch experience and

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speaking about Ohio, there is a
relatively recent sighting out of Carroll County,

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Ohio. Now, this report was
submitted by the BFRO and the witness is

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quoted as saying, my name is
Betty Russell. I understand I don't sound

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anything like a Betty Russell. Were
like a rustle, but not a Betty

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Rustle. But nonetheless, I live
in Carroll County, Ohio, and I

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was driving home on February sixth of
this year. It was about eight thirty

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pm and it was very dark and
there are no street lights. It's in

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the country. I was going west
on Autumn Road when I just crested the

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top of the hill and it was
in the middle of the road. It

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was very large bipedal bean and it
had a long wavy hair, not a

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long wavy hair, but long wavy
hair. There was leaves and possibly small

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twigs on its backside. It had
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It took one step to the guard
rail with its right leg and was over

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the guard rail with its left leg
and was gone. Now the witness was

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questioned by investigator James Thompson. Now
James is quoted as saying, I met

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with the witness. See I sound
more like a James than I do a

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Betty. I met with the witness
sixteen hours after the sighting occurred. The

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sighting took place on a very hilly, ridgeline rural road. Her car crested

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a hill that turned down and to
the left. As the car's headlights came

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down, they illuminated a tall,
brown bipedal creature in the middle of the

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road. Due to the dangerous declining
curve the road took, she was only

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able to see its movement from the
road until it disappeared over the guardrail.

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I was not able to find any
indication of prints or travel. I climbed

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over the guardrail and jumped into the
grassy area, only to have its spring

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back up after I moved slowly,
and there was no indication of what I

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just did. Now I'm personal observation. What was it doing in the middle

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of the road. I would have
liked to have known, had there been

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road kill in the middle of the
road, that it was curious about or

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was it actually in transit when the
headlights lit up the animal? You decided.

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But you can read the report yourself
at the BFRO and just look up

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recent sightings out of Ohio for more
information. When we come back, Nah,

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we're just going to make stuff up
and talk. You're listening to the

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big foot bullhorn right here on the
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go to Squatch Pro Shop. Thank
you. Yep, it's all about Ohio.

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Everything is about Ohio, Ohio.
It's America's shirt pocket. And if

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you don't know what that means,
take a look at a map. I'm

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sure you'll figure it out anyway.
As mentioned, we would love to see

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all of you this coming Saturday and
Sunday, May fourth and fifth at the

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Salt Fork Lodge and Conference Center at
Salt Fork State Park in Cambridge, Ohio,

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and we'd love to have you stop
by the table, leave a dollar

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in the tip jar, and James
Baker will give you life altering advice.

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Again. It's the Ohio Bigfoot Conference. Would love to see you there.

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Thanks again for listening to this edition
of the big Foot Bullhorn right here from

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the Sasquatch Experience. Gentlemen, I'm
here we meet again. Keep your toe

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in the mind. So many things
with America's shirt pocket vance clever, I

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get it, I get it,
life altering advice. I'm glad you went

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with advice because on the advice account, two dollars, no knowledge. Stop

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it, stop it. I'm only
asking first you can take three. I

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mean stop at that, and that's
where we're losing, folks. Yeah,

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late breaking to that. I didn't
get the vance before the Big Football Horn.

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There is another festival coming up in
Western North Carolina, the Western North

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Carolina Bigfoot Festival on May eighteenth,
twenty twenty four, and Marion, North

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Carolina. I'm gonna have a nice
event there. I'm sure Vance will put

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it into the next one of these. I'll get you the contact information for

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that Vance, but folks, get
that on your radar. May eighteenth,

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twenty twenty four, the Western North
Carolina big Foot Festival focuses on the cultural

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phenomena of Bigfoot in Apalachia. Mm
hmm, that's what I have about that.

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Anyhow, as we go back to
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that, fans. It's funny we
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the charming gem in the middle not
even the middle of Ohio, but towards

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the eastern part of Ohio. It's
kind of like you drive into this park

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and you drive like twenty minutes in
to get to the lodge that's like right

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out of the shining. It's beautiful, it's a great place, but there's

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sure something creepy about those woods.
Gentlemen. Yeah, I'm looking forward to

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it, Henry. I haven't not
been there yet, so yeah, I'm

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going to have the go pros and
my cameras rolling as I'm going through there.

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So well, you know, that's
always the always the point of contention.

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There is people trying to do research
on park grounds during the Bigfoot conference.

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You know, what's the productivity level
of that? Like, Oh,

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let's go out with one hundred other
people trying to do Bigfoot research and the

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only thing we're going to get is
each other, you know, bouncing off.

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But in years past, before the
conference became such a phenomena, you

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could do that. And it was
one of those years where Eric Altman and

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Mike Feltner at the handicapped picnic pavilion
had an encounter that was pretty interesting Hussack's

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Cave. There were people that have
had seemingly Henry all the time, having

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some experience there at the cave.
What do you remember about the park and

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exciting events happening during the weekend of
the conference. It was a scream Did

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you hear that? Now? A
friend of mine from North Carolina heard her.

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Her daughter claimed that she had a
sighting and it made a sketch of

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this thing that she saw during a
conference weekend a few years ago. A

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credible it is, maybe she had
big Foot on the brain. Who knows,

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Well, what do you think,
Henry? Deep down? I know

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it's a friend I'm putting you on
the spot, But what do you really

405
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:52.519
think about that? Because that becomes
very difficult to you know, subject to

406
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:57.799
that's hard. Well, like I
said, it was during a bigfoot conference

407
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:04.319
weekend. Again, could have had
big foot on the brain? Yeah,

408
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:10.679
but always playing devil's advocate in that
though. There's always times we go out

409
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:16.920
on adventures or we go out on
conferences or excursions with the intent of getting

410
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:22.519
bigfoot evidence. So when it happens, does it happen because we've had bigfoot

411
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:27.599
on the brain, or was there
something measurable and something you know, impactful

412
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.199
that really happened and we're just throwing
the baby out with the bath water because

413
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:35.880
there's a concentration of people. I
just said it moments ago that you know,

414
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:40.280
what's the you know, actual fruitfulness
of having you know, doing research.

415
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:43.480
But there's a group of people there. But if this thing exists in

416
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:49.679
the park, why would it be
any different? Good point. I mean,

417
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:54.719
she did make a very detailed sketch, so maybe she did see something.

418
00:34:54.760 --> 00:35:00.280
It's entirely possible. You just don't
don't know scout it And that was

419
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:05.440
always the hard part, even with
you know, other peoples that we know

420
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.559
is encounter in that park as it's
happened in an area where there's so many

421
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:13.239
people in that park over the weekend. And of course you know there's folks

422
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:15.679
that have said to us many times, I've been to that park three hundred

423
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:20.360
times and nothing happened. Well,
I've been out in the woods thousands of

424
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.559
times and only a handful of times
as something happened. So you talk about

425
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:28.320
odds like if you know the population
is what we think it is, or

426
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:31.199
the chance of an encounter is what
it is, that may actually be the

427
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:37.280
right math on that. Well,
we've had that discussion multiple times, as

428
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:42.079
the fact is that you know,
you could you know, I would rather

429
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:46.519
hear somebody had one incident and it's
tried to have multiple and never got anything

430
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:50.280
compared to the guy that walks up
and goes, hey, he's there every

431
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:54.559
day two clock. Hey, Well, the problem with the guy that has

432
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:58.480
the encounter every day at two o'clock
is, no matter how many two o'clocks

433
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:01.639
come, he never gets a damp
evidence to show. At some point you

434
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:05.440
put the velcro on and you jump
on that thing, and I don't care

435
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:07.840
how hard he beats you to death. If he's calm every year for twenty

436
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:12.639
years at two o'clock. You get
yourself some evidence at some point, or

437
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:17.039
you just shut the hell up like
that's the frustrating part. That's the very

438
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:20.760
frustrating part of it for me.
And then of course, you know,

439
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:24.400
you have the some of the seasoned
researchers think that Salt Fork's just been overexposed,

440
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:30.079
and it's you know, Peter down
and brought that up before in the

441
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:35.639
past, that you know, it
has been overexposed, and there's so many

442
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:43.119
enthusiasts that are chomping around the grounds
there looking for something. I think you

443
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:47.559
may have a good point there that
it might be overexposed. But prior to

444
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:52.920
that, there has been some really
interesting reports that came out of that area,

445
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:58.639
and I don't think we can de
dine in that, from visual sightings

446
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:05.599
to audio earring of you know,
interesting things that would kind of point in

447
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:09.400
the direction that well, maybe they
were there at one point and maybe have

448
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:16.360
moved a little further back from where
most of the traveled trails are. Who's

449
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:21.519
to say, right, and you
know, and here we go, Matt.

450
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:24.199
Something you and I have talked about
in the past is that some of

451
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:28.760
these features like the Salt Fork lake
is a man made lake. It's not

452
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:32.480
a natural formation. These parks are
built like east Own State Forest was built

453
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:38.320
in Pennsylvania. It wasn't it wasn't
unnaturally existing. I mean it was naturally

454
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:42.760
existing at some point, but it
you know, a bigfoot's not going to

455
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.360
know our geographic boundaries. You know, they don't have a map, and

456
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:46.960
they're not hiking our trails. You
know, they don't have a map.

457
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:52.039
But I was gonna say the other
thing too, that I noticed about the

458
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.760
Salt Fork region, there's a lot
of private property, right Yeah, there's

459
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:59.320
a lot of farm You see a
lot of horse farms. You see a

460
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.360
lot of a lot of cattle farms, like you know, maybe going towards

461
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.679
Cambridge, if you're going up to
the north, it's more woods. But

462
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:09.440
they're supposed to assigns everywhere, you
know, or or the trees marked.

463
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:15.079
And you know what if you know, I'm gonna be taking an expedition and

464
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:20.519
we're gonna you know, try to
keep everything you know, on the you

465
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.639
know, on the up and up, and we're we're staying within the trail

466
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:27.920
system. We're not going on to
private property. You know, if we're

467
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:30.559
pushing something out and it's going into
uh, you know, the back forty

468
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:34.559
of the farm next door. We're
not gonna see it, and probably the

469
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.320
farmer's not going to see it either. So and you know, so I

470
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:42.360
think during those conference weekends, I
think one of two things happen. One

471
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:46.159
is they they do scatter out to
the uh you know, to the private

472
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:50.519
areas, to the to the areas
where there's just not a lot of people.

473
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.519
Or the other thing too being more
optimistic with people that that may have

474
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:59.280
had an encounter. You know,
Bigfoot's gonna be sitting there, like you

475
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:01.280
know what's coming up right now.
We've got ramps, you know, leaks,

476
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:05.679
you know, we got budding trees. You know, he's going to

477
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:07.280
be sitting there, you know,
plugging away. Hey, you know what,

478
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.159
I got a great dinner. And
then it's like, oh, you

479
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:15.400
know, oh, here comes somebody. You know, And maybe somebody does

480
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:19.639
get that encounter. But I know
in terms of like I said, the

481
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:25.880
the amount of private property surrounding that
park is pretty extensive. So there's something

482
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.039
to go hide back there. Yeah. Right, And as we know,

483
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:34.519
we had a gentleman we talked to
not too long ago on private property that

484
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:38.639
seemingly noticed something going through his property. Yes, you know, so you

485
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:43.760
know we talk about these things,
you know, moving around and and perhaps

486
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:46.000
you know, there is a lot
of merit to that thought of well,

487
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:51.199
when the park gets busy, they
start pushing out, you know. But

488
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:55.840
then there's also as Mike Ann and
our chat points out areas of the park

489
00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:02.840
Bigfoot Ridge right area's name for encounters
that have happened. John Hickinbottom, one

490
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:07.639
of the naturalists at the park,
you know, you know, talks about

491
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:12.400
the activity that's happened there. So
there is a legitimacy and actual agency that

492
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.000
talk about the sightings that happen in
Salt Fork And you know, folks,

493
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:19.920
if anybody's interested, you can get
a book by Doug Waller from the South

494
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:24.880
Southeast Ohio Bigfoot Group. He goes
and does library tours. He's written several

495
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:29.000
books on this topic. I think
it's about six now. And then the

496
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:34.079
Ohio Nightstalkers also do a library tour
in the state where they talk about different

497
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:37.639
encounters that have happened through the state
of Ohio. So there's a lot of

498
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:45.519
great resources for you to reach out
to latch onto and get exposed to what

499
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:49.639
Salt Fork has to offer. And
I'm not saying that just because there's a

500
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:53.559
conference that happens there, it's no
good. I just wonder, because of

501
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:59.119
the saturation of it, how much
can we actually believe that comes from the

502
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:02.000
park? You know Henry's point,
you know, it was a bigfoot weekend.

503
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:06.199
His friend had a sighting. What
do you do, right, Like,

504
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:08.440
you know, how much of it
do you believe? It's really hard,

505
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:12.119
especially when it happens to really good
friends of yours, and now you're

506
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:15.880
like, well, I really want
to believe them, but it's it's the

507
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:19.480
weekend, you know, It's it
could have been anybody, right, What

508
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:22.840
do you think, gentlemen? Well, you know, again, if this

509
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:30.079
creature is aware of a volume that
moves in and out at a certain period

510
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:34.880
of time of year, it may
just scatter understanding the fact that, well,

511
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:38.280
it's early spring, there's going to
be a lot of humans coming to

512
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:44.840
this area here, it may just
move out into the private area. That's

513
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:50.480
understandable. I know I would if
I were, you know, a wreckcluse

514
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:54.360
and wanted to stay away from other
people, which I generally do anyway.

515
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:59.079
But yeah, I think I'm going
to move over here. For the next

516
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:02.280
you know, you know, three
four weeks and then I can come back

517
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:08.920
to my feeding area or whatever that
area may be important to that. I

518
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:14.760
don't know. I was just trying
to find, you know, a very

519
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:20.280
recent bigfoot sighting because I haven't had
any that late. Last one that we

520
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:25.000
talked about just at the beginning of
the show, that Carroll County one that

521
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:29.800
you also talked about their vance was
pretty recent. But I was looking for

522
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:35.760
more for Salt Fork with the actual
sightings that looks like the last one I

523
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:39.639
can find is twenty seventeen, which
was a possible sighting and casting of a

524
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:45.280
print near Hassakes Cave in Salt Fork
State Park, and that was in the

525
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:51.480
winter of that month. But you
know, another odd port about Hassakes Cave

526
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:57.440
is the people that have experienced strange
lights at that area seeing and again we

527
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:02.320
don't get into the WU here too
much, but obviously something that's happening in

528
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:07.000
conjunction with these big foot sightings because
they're being reported far, you know,

529
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:12.119
far more often than they used to. What are they? Well, I,

530
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:17.199
you know, Matt just agreed with
the lights by his opinion of them.

531
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.320
We heard that, So Matt,
what do you have to what do

532
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:28.639
you have to? I don't you
know what we I was actually out in

533
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:34.400
the field with a with a good
friend of ours, and I'm sitting there

534
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.000
like, who the heck is out
there? You know, with the with

535
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:42.239
the super straight, super bright light
you know, going up and down through

536
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:46.599
the you know, way off trail
and you know, there was no explanation

537
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:50.320
for it. But you know,
but I don't know, you know,

538
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:54.079
those lights could be anything, but
and it could be just something that naturally

539
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:59.440
occurs that we just don't you know, how many of us really spend you

540
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.000
know, entire night out in the
woods, you know, and we may

541
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:07.280
have something and maybe something gaseous.
It could be, you know, something

542
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.039
natural that we just don't really have
a lot of explanation for right now.

543
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:15.599
But you know, and it could
just be something that again, you know,

544
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:21.239
it's almost as maybe as common as
us finding ticks on us, you

545
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:22.800
know, when we go out the
in the Sasquat woods, you know,

546
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:27.599
in the Sasquatch woods, that we're
going to find something. It's kind of

547
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:30.960
strange like that. But do I
think it's any sort of wood? Do

548
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:34.079
I think it's like a mini ufo? Absolutely not do I think it might

549
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.840
be some sort of gas, some
sort of like swot gas. Could it

550
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:39.280
be some sort of ball lightning?
It? Could it be something like that.

551
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:44.679
It's always that's always something that it
could be, you know, something

552
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.360
more natural. Right. It's just
the thing is it's happening a lot.

553
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:52.079
Yeah, and you know, at
some point we have to really, I

554
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:55.840
think, spend some time focusing on
that phenomena as well. To your point,

555
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.960
could it be escaping gas, It
could be, It could be all

556
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:01.880
lot of things. We just have
to really narrow it down and there has

557
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:06.039
to be some equipment that can catalog
it. There has to be something that

558
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:07.920
we can record it with. Yeah, we'll have to talk to Baker about

559
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:19.119
escaping gas. And to go back
to this case from the gas. The

560
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:22.599
last time I was at I was
at the Ohio Bigfoot Conference I and it

561
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:24.760
wasn't last year, it was the
year before. I remember people saying that

562
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:29.960
there was some sort of experience that
they that they had. You know,

563
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:34.800
it was within the park. It
wasn't up up on Bigfoot Ridge, but

564
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.320
it was in that area. And
I don't know if it was if it

565
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:39.760
was a signing, but that was
kind of like the talk of the conference

566
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:45.320
comes Saturday, and then we have
a good friend of ours who was out

567
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:49.639
there doing an expedition last year I
believe it was last fall, and she

568
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.960
saw something, you know, probably
about twenty yards from from her vehicle in

569
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:58.639
the middle of the night that she
couldn't explain the glow of Bigfoot's iPhone.

570
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:07.079
Yeah, I never know. Yeah, puts an android guy. But I'm

571
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:14.039
gonna throw I'm gonna throw a shameless
pullet plug in the here is. If

572
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.360
I was gonna be looking for sasquatch, you know, in the Saltwork area,

573
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:22.840
I would be in Cambridge, Ohio
at the Bear Stand restaurant. That's

574
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:27.400
where that's where me, Sean and
Baker and my wife went. Reservations are

575
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:31.360
probably preferred, especially during the conference
weekend, but man, that was a

576
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:37.679
delicious dinner. If I was Bigfoot, I would go there. Look at

577
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:38.880
us all, I mean, with
the exception events, who's a little bit

578
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:49.079
more spelt in the restaurant. We
like our food, yea. And if

579
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:53.519
you happen to be supporters of our
Patreon for as little as two dollars a

580
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:58.280
month, Matt and I have a
little feature that we do where we also

581
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:02.400
talk about our gastronomical ventures along as
our bigfoot adventures, because we do enjoy

582
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:06.639
well, I used to enjoy food, not so much anymore. Yeah,

583
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.480
it's becoming. It's still a very
important part of what we do. And

584
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:13.519
you know, we'd be remiss of
talking about Ohio if we didn't talk about

585
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:17.880
all the small Town Monster features that
have happened out of their Seth and Company

586
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:23.480
documenting Minerva. Yes, you know
that whole experience which really kind of kicked

587
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:29.599
off the Small Palm Monsters for Ray
and then the other segments they've done.

588
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:31.840
He's done a lot of Bigfoot research
in Ohio as well. And I encourage

589
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:37.159
folks to go into the Small Town
Monsters YouTube channel, subscribe and watch,

590
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:43.159
you know, the ongoing saga they
had going on there at the cabin that

591
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:46.239
Seth was a Seth and Team was
recording very good stuff. And I think,

592
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:51.000
well, you know what, one
more shameless plug for us, because

593
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.400
you know we're on a roll,
we might as well. Yeah, you

594
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:57.719
know, we'll all be at least
a good deep portion of us will be

595
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:06.840
at the Small Town Monsters Monsterfest at
the end of June. The end of

596
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.119
June, come see us. We'll
be doing a live podcast from the event.

597
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:14.119
We're going to be having a good
time. We had a wonderful time

598
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.760
last year. Again, I always
called James the unsung hero with a live

599
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:22.559
podcast because he took the ball and
ran with it. You'll meet a lot

600
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:24.480
of great people, connect with a
lot of great friends. It truly is

601
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:30.639
an event to experience. If you
haven't done so, get your tickets those

602
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:32.880
tickets that are still available, and
come out, hang out with us and

603
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:36.920
have a good time. Really great
event, well worth the money, small

604
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:38.559
Town Monsters Fest. In fact,
some of the folks in our chat room.

605
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:43.000
Then I'll be there. We did
see Jeremiah from Bigfoot Society and here

606
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:46.679
a little earlier tactical Bigfoot Research.
Mike Ann will be doing a workshop.

607
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:51.280
Amy Boo will be there. And
don't know if we missed, I mean

608
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:52.800
we could again, we could go
ahead. We'll be there. That's the

609
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:55.519
most important thing. We could go
on and on and on and on and

610
00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:00.119
on and list these things, but
it's an event that you got to experience.

611
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:06.039
I only experienced one dickhead when I
was there the last time. Seth

612
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:10.079
made short work of him, and
that's pretty good for a conference, you

613
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:15.480
know, you always assume the asshole
and idiots come out, But it was

614
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:19.199
only one. It was a pretty
good time. And if we could get

615
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:21.880
Henry, you know, at one
of these events in the next year too,

616
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:29.159
that'll be even more special. Yeah, Henry, folks, I'm telling

617
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:30.840
you, I normally don't bitch and
complain, but it's hot. It is

618
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:35.599
really hot in here tonight. I'm
trying to keep up and keep us going.

619
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:37.000
I'm losing a little bit of the
mojo here, boys, I need

620
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:43.039
some assistance to get us through this
last last ten minutes. Well, we

621
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:50.079
can't. We can't forget about Ohio
and Matt Moneymaker. How did we feel

622
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:55.840
with that? And the birthplace or
the h you know, the yeah where

623
00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:05.280
it was officially named the Ohio howe
right right, yeah, yes, Oh,

624
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:09.679
there's Henry. Hey, Henry,
That's that's where it was. It

625
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:15.559
was in Columbia and the county Ohio. That's ninety four. And then how

626
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:21.559
often now do you hear I would
say almost it's synonymous when you hear bigfoot

627
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:23.559
sounds that the first thing that comes
out of somebody's mouth is it's like the

628
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:30.360
Ohio howl, yes, right,
yep, which I think is fairly common.

629
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:35.400
But I've heard some some vocalizations recently
from UH that the bf R O

630
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:39.159
put up from UH Louisiana that did
not sound anything like that. But but

631
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:44.159
again, you know, who knows
what they're even saying. You know,

632
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:47.480
I'm up there doing the Ohio howl
up and uh up in our area?

633
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:52.400
Am I telling them? Hey?
You know, come here, I'm I'm

634
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:58.199
single, and yeah, right,
be careful that might lead into beast reality

635
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:05.800
and piss off another mission. Oh
listen, listen, I know vance I

636
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:09.800
promised I would. There's no but
we go there. We talked. We

637
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:16.840
talked about a bigfoot video that may
or may not have featured a bigfoot penis

638
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:21.280
with playmates. That's it. We
didn't take the video. There wasn't a

639
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:24.119
video of any of our penises or
any of us with a bigfoot like it

640
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:29.400
happened. I think I was a
kid when that happened, When that nineteen

641
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:37.159
ninety six Henry was the playmate video
Sweet and meets Bigot, so like it

642
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:40.960
was a legitimate doctor Meldrum looked into
it. It was a legitimate inquiry.

643
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:47.199
And so the one listener that was
upset by that, I'm sorry. Obviously

644
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:52.400
this show's not This show's not for
you, so go find someone else to

645
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:59.400
listen to. What thing One thing
with the Ohio also is it's a good

646
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:02.000
crowd. And the nice thing is
is like there's so many things to look

647
00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:07.320
at. There are people showing your
prints, there are people that make art.

648
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:10.280
If I do a thing every year, whenever me and Sean go somewhere

649
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:15.280
as I always buy a postcard and
so bring some postcover stamps with you.

650
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:19.079
Send something nice to your home,
you know, something to remember it by.

651
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.239
The food is always good. I
believe Snuffy's going to be there doing

652
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:32.039
some cards, I hope. So
that's always a fun time and if you

653
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:36.840
can. I mean, like a
lot of times the conferences all day,

654
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:39.840
but some of the great parts of
the conference are sitting at that bar Saturday

655
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:45.800
night and watching just people watching.
Not allowed to talk about what happens at

656
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:51.039
the bar, that stays in the
bar. That's nothing happen. I'm just

657
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:55.960
saying to people watching as well worth
it, you know kinds of conversations.

658
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:05.239
It is very wrong gentlemen talk about
what happens at the wall outside they run

659
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:12.000
for a man to grab another man's
bar. Yes, I think, well

660
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:16.400
it's weird. You keep your bar
grabbing to yourself. Yeah, sleeping outside

661
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:21.880
the cabin you trick grab my car? Is Don Keating setting up a booth.

662
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.079
I have not had any confirmation of
Don coming to this year's event,

663
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:30.239
but you could, you could almost
be rest assured that Don makes an appearance

664
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:35.840
somewhere. He has to, you
know, he is the godfather of the

665
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:40.199
event, and I always look forward
to my interactions with Don. You know,

666
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:45.400
Don and I go back. I
have like a whole bunch of episodes

667
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:50.880
of the Sasquatch Triangle that I salvaged
and can remaster for Don. But the

668
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:52.239
last time he and I talked,
he doesn't want to release him. He

669
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:57.679
wants to let sleeping dogs lie.
I respect that, but be rest assured

670
00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:00.519
I have them in safe keeping.
So when the day comes that Don wants

671
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:05.840
to change his mind, folks,
you can tune here and get them now.

672
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:09.840
I hope he does make his appearance. I've never met the man,

673
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:17.199
but I would certainly be privileged to
legendary as the subject matter itself, and

674
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:20.880
as we talk, you know,
wrap the show up to talk about,

675
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:29.360
you know those things that sometimes it's
the people that make this research, you

676
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:37.719
know, the the adventure that it
is. It's such they're all experience,

677
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:49.000
right, and Ohio has stranglehold on
the amount of eccentric, eclectic, and

678
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:53.079
legendary researchers I think out of just
about any state bar none. I mean,

679
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:55.639
yeah, there's some great researchers that
come out of those states. But

680
00:54:55.800 --> 00:55:00.760
just think about the concentration for a
minute, and what makes o Ohio such

681
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:05.599
a rich tapestry of big pretty goodness. But there's there is a really an

682
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:12.239
amazing turnout for you know, the
Ohio Bigfoot Conference. And you know Cliff

683
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:16.320
Barrickman, He's brought that point up
number of times. This is why he

684
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:22.039
goes, and this is why doctor
Meldrum goes, because there's such an enthusiastic

685
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:29.639
turnout at this area and they love
to come here and every year they just

686
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:35.719
kind of scope and you know,
get the feel for the enthusiasm of all

687
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:43.360
those that turnout and and ask really
interesting questions, which I'm writing down all

688
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:47.199
my questions for this year, but
we'll see how that goes. I want

689
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:52.480
to I want to bring up one
thing about the conference, and specifically about

690
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:59.199
Mark de Worth. So the first
year, I think it was like twenty

691
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:01.960
eighteen that my wife and I went. We got the VIP tickets, had

692
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:06.280
no idea what you know, like
that was our first conference where just like

693
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:10.440
you know, we just showed up
and you know, we went in for

694
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:16.480
the uh for the lectures and at
the time, I just had an issue

695
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:19.639
with my knees, so I had
to wear a knee brace and everything so

696
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:23.000
i'd have a certain seat, and
you don't what like Mark took like like

697
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:27.440
you know, five or ten minutes
to sit there and make sure everything was

698
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:30.360
perfect. I had no idea who
he was, Like, I'm just sitting

699
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:34.559
there like all right, you know, I didn't realize that he was one

700
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:38.199
throwing everything together, like he's dealing
with people that are first time attendees to

701
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:42.840
you know, the biggest names in
Bigfoot. So I give a lot of

702
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:49.440
credit to Mark for just the amount
of attention that he gave everyone there at

703
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:52.239
that conference, because you know,
those conferences, you're going through a lot,

704
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:57.320
You're you're doing a lot of things, you're juggling everything. So Mark

705
00:56:57.400 --> 00:57:00.519
was an absolute hero to us that
on that trip, and he does a

706
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:05.599
fantastic job with that. Yeah,
it is an event, that's for sure,

707
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:08.840
And folks, you two can come
join us this weekend Cambridge, Ohio,

708
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:13.679
Salt Fork State Park. Myself,
the top three here will be in

709
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.960
attendance as we go live. I
think at maybe at some point Friday night,

710
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:20.280
we're going to do a live stream. And yes, Bill Rigby,

711
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:23.599
you're still on man, I haven't
forgot about Bill Rigby. And Bill Rigby

712
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:29.480
will be joining us too as a
ancillary arm wrestling with Bill Rigby. So

713
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:36.280
that's alone. That seems really appropriate, Actually doesn't it. I'm wrestling Bill

714
00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:38.639
Rugby anyhow, Folks, thanks for
listening. I'm Sean the Fork Chot fork

715
00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:42.719
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716
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:49.679
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717
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718
00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:58.199
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719
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:01.880
him those beautiful words. You all
be good and be good at it.

720
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:12.440
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721
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:16.400
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