July 1, 2026

EP 142: Back in Action

EP 142: Back in Action
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Season 13

Sean Forker and Crew are back in action, discussing the topics pressing in the Bigfoot world.

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Using opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch Experience do

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not necessarily reflect the opinion of the host, sponsors, or

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affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. As always, listener discretion is advised.

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We got some one or something.

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Crawling around out your by.

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What it was?

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Was it a person or an animal?

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Or I can't go. I know that my underway came

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on and I did happened to glim be this big

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running across the.

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Yard, A goodbye man or a company.

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Worked by a man?

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I don't know what it was.

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Back in two thousand and five, we set out with

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one goal to give voice to the mystery and those

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who pursue it. Sasquatch Experience Podcast has been your go

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to source for serious Bigfoot discussion, where we separate fact

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from folklore. Always grounded in research and respect. We've interviewed eyewitnesses,

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experts since Keptic to like because understanding Bigfoot isn't just

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about belief, It's about the journey. Nearly two decades later,

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we're still chasing shadows and sharing stories. The search never stopped.

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Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience.

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Hello, hit somebody out.

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Here, Well, guys, it never gets old that they never

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It's nice to hear it again, everybody. Welcome back Sasquatch experience.

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I'm sewn the fork Chap Forker. That's Matt Arner. That's

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Henry May who's snuck in during the intro and you

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can't see him, but he's down there. The bit here,

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the vans nae a bit, James Baker out tonight with

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a sick dog, and guys, I tell you what, it's

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great to be back with you. It's it's a lot

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has happened. And I think we all, especially me, life

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was really kicking me in the Gonads. We needed a

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break and it was time to take one, and we

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did and now we're back. As you can see, I'm

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not at the studio tonight. I'm at Costad at Forker.

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My home is your home this evening in the lovely

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rose COURTZ dining room, appropriately by my wife.

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And I mean the black abyss. Apparently I don't know

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why video doesn't come through, but you know what, for

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a podcast, who carers?

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That's right. Most of you listened to this anyhow, you're

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going to watch it, and if you are watching, well

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sorry sucks to be your eyes editow we do need

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to get some nice eye candy for this program, although

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I don't know if I can say that without the

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risks all.

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I could do that, but you don't have me on camera,

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so I won't. Yeah, never mind.

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Only two of our panelists are eligible Baxlers Lady and

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Gym and unfortunately yours truly the Anson one is taken.

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Matt has also taken, and Baker is spoken for. Sorry, ladies,

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I know that one's got you down on the dumbs.

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But Henry is as as Baker always says, always looking

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to find a fifth.

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And then there's Vans Yep, there's Vance yep, Dingle.

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Ready to mingle and you can catch him on swatchesonly

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dot com. But great to be here. We have our

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good friends in the chat Scott Deetererley, who has been

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by the way, guys, I just I can't say enough

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kind things about Scott, A real rock and a friend.

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Yes, sir Scott, thank you, Scott.

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We really appreciate I really appreciate your kindness, your words,

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late night chats and putting up with my just overall shenanigans.

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Same with all you guys. Thank you very much.

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But you know what Scott has a lot of contributions

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to thought and process to the show. So from me

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does tudos to you, Scott. I appreciate it.

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Yeah, Scott, who really does contribute quite a bit behind

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the scenes. Him and Brian Corman. Yeah, yeah, good contributors.

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Today our production chat was kind of going off with

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what we were going to talk about tonight because we

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do have a little bit of aluse agenda. But there

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was some again I guess for a little controversy that

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broke yesterday, just I guess some verbal overstepping. I guess

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we could call it above and beyond that though it's

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been crazy, So enough about us. I do want to

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get the generalizations out of the way about the events

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popping up. But then also I do want to take

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a moment and just direct everybody to a Bigfoot society.

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Our friend Jeremiah Byron really going through a rough time

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right now. Folks diagnosed with cancer and needs are helping

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our support. I put up posed out there on Facebook

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the other day during our break, but more of appeal

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can help, please do so, yea, Robbie, this isn't you know,

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I get I think so many people mistake the fact

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that we're not competitors, were friends. There's a lot of

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mark Oh oh.

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Yeah, where did it shot? Are we still there?

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There?

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We are there? I don't know anyhow. Jeremiah has been

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a great friend to us. It was great to see

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him at some of the events over the years. But

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he needs your help, folks. If you have some time,

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go over and support him, follow his journey and go

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to the GoFundMe and you know, even support well, wishous

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thoughts and prayers, all that stuff, yep, makes a difference.

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So get out there and show some support, folks.

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He's on the prayer list.

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Well, and it does. We're wanderings, folks, Yes it does.

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We have the twenty twenty six the first ever e

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a par of Stormfest, happening in tars Pennsylvania, next weekend,

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not the fourth of July, the week after. Myself and

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James Baker will be there representing Sasquatch experience. Matt, I

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don't know if you're coming down for.

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It or not, but I can't. Yeah, I'm get me

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sorried up. That weekend, we got a.

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Lot of things going on, a brand new event being

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put on by the Pennsylvania storm Chasers. I mean, it's

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just it's great to see some of my favorite things

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come together under one roof and two of the big headliners,

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Stan Gordon and doctor Greg Forbes. And if you know

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anything about some here weather on TV, that's awesome, Greg

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Forbes demand, So come on down. Tickets on sale now.

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Go to Facebook. We'll wink it up. Go to pa

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Peri Stormfast, google it or put it in the Facebook algorithm.

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There they'll pop up like it and then come out

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and see us. It's going to be a great event.

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Folks is going to make it all happen.

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Yep, dan Is stan Is the literal man. Matt, you

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have an event popping up as well.

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Yes, July eighteenth at Thunderhead Lodge in Entries, Pennsylvania. It's

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right on top of the Blue Mountain Route three nine,

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right on the Appalation Trail.

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They're doing the Appalation conjur Fest. I kind of fell

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into it last year and they asked me to They

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asked me to do We'll have a table there, talked

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about bigfoot sightings. Next thing you know, they're pulling me

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into the main center and they said, hey, talked about

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bigfoot for for an hour, all right, you know, I

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can talk about Bigfoot for days. So we ended up

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doing that. It was super super popular and they went

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me back. And if you guys are in the area,

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you know, we're gonna have a table representing Tsese and

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we're gonna have a good time with that. So comment out.

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That's gonna be July eighteenth, twelve pm to five pm,

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so it's not not gonna be all day. Thunderhead Lodge

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is a restaurant, a very good, good restaurant. Now, the

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only bad negative thing about Thunderhead Lodge it's haunted. Oh

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so if you go, yeah, so if you go on

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our Facebook page, they always do the cameras, they always

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do the hidden cameras. So yeah, so anyways, they they

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do have a haunted restaurant. It is. The food is

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the hamburgers are exceptional, you know, but like everything else there, like,

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that's an excellent, excellent place to go. And if you're hiking,

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if you're through hiker, stop on buy. You know we're

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gonna talk about I'm gonna be more centered this time.

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I'm talking about Bigfoot along the Appalachian Mountains in Pennsylvania.

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So that's kind of thing.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely so.

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And you're good at it, Matt, you really are, that's yeah.

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So we got haunted burgers.

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Yea more absolutely in appellation through hikers coming through and

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you know they haven't had a shower in in in

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a couple of weeks, and you know, but you know what,

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it's part of the experience.

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So yes, not shower.

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Well, if anybody has an experience visiting Matt, we'd certainly

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love to have you on the show because of the

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fact of you can share whatever weird experience you may

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have had, and we're all for it.

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Yep, absolutely absolutely.

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Last oh, go ahead, go ahead.

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I was gonna say, last year I started getting just

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random people that people didn't know each other, and they're

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coming up and I have the map up there, and

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they all pointed at one particular area and uh, it's

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literally like thirty five minutes from my house. So that

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seems to be I do like to go, you know,

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in my normal research area, but I'm thinking this area

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here might be a decent area. It's ryan the Appalachian Trail.

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There's no roads you have to have to hike into

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where where this particular area is. But the landowners, you know,

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people had farms giving reports of audio. You know, hearing

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howls at night, that that weren't coyotes, hearing whoops, hearing screams.

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We had through hiker that said, hey, something came through

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his camp in the middle of the night. He and

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all he saw were two legs and he's and he said,

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there's no light. You know, whoever was walking through that

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it was not you know, a hiker that was lost.

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He said this, he said, he said it was on

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two legs. Did you describe the loans? He just said

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that they were big? Okay, and yeah, because he he

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had I guess there was a little bit of light outside.

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He was able to see the shadow and he said,

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whatever it was, it was definitely a lot bigger than him.

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So so good, good, good reports from from that area. So,

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like I said, that might be a possible area to explore.

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I sent you a couple of sightings that launch strict

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from Phantoms and Monsters posts. Yeah, and though I was

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gonna ask you, man, folks, if you haven't they just

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posted I think yesterday over on Phantoms and Monsters dot com.

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Were you able to kind of ascertain an area from

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any of the descriptions. I mean, I know it seems hard,

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but I didn't get any kind of directional from where

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those sightings might have happened.

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I did not either, And usually Lawn is pretty good.

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He'll he'll give you know, some sort of you know

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area or I've even seen a couple reports where he

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actually put the latitude and longitude lines in, which is

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really helpful. So you know, I know with that it

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was uh uh, it was a little harder to ascertain.

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I know. A lot of the reports he gets so

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are Central PA Bald Eagles State Forest, which is by

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our friend Gwen, and it's just to the south of you,

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and really, uh a lot of good reports coming from

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that area as well.

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Oh, he's speaking of Gwen. There is in Central PA

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Bigfoot krypti fet yes as well. We don't want to

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forget that. That's an event that you and I usually

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show up for, yeah, at least participate in, so we'd

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be glad to see more about that. We have to

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check back in with everybody again, guys, we've been on

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a break. Matt has been the only one that's kind

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of really been engaging in Bigfoot and Henry, but I've

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been out so I'm trying to catch up and see

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what the hell has been going on. Yeah, likewise exciting

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to a crash course, it's been very interesting. So Matt

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tell us about Forrest County, the Bigfoot Festival up there

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and some of the things that have been happening.

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we were rather than having a table on my own,

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I was partnered up with Mike and Mike Ann Uh

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you know, he said, Hey, I'm gonna come out hang

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out at the I was like, brother, you know, come

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on hang out with me. He was. He helped me

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out that entire weekend. I mean, you know what a

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fantastic friend. And I couldn't appreciate that anymore. But we

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ended up we were supposed to have a table all

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the way at the end, but uh Stan Gordon had

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like a like a double table set up, so we said, stank,

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we can we go in there with you. So was me, uh,

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Mike Ann, Stan Gordon, Eric, Eric Aleman. I mean it

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was like the whole and uh Tom, I can't think

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of his last name. Great guy and you know what

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I mean, yes, So I mean yeah, so we had,

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you know, really uh just a great lineup for Pennsylvania.

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Eric had the Prince Uh, that he got in twenty

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five there, and that was the big draw once I started,

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you know, once I got the information on it, I

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was able to both Mike and I were able to

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kind of d jump in and uh and one thing

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Eric said it was like he was like, brother, he

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was like, I'm proud of you guys. He was like,

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it's nice to see the you know, to see you

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know how we kind of came through from you know,

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just guys that really you know, we're just learning about

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this to you know, being able to go out and

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you know, explainlin take reports. So hearing that from Eric

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was was awesome. Uh, Stan gordonell and this comes back

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to to Eric, and we got to give Eric credit

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for this. He said, we need t shirts that say

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just blame stand so play stand for everything, bigotos everything,

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you know. So uh so we do need to we

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do need to get a Stan Gordon shirt going that

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That is uh, that was.

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The fact that Stan has been involved in this, yes

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for for what over fifty years, Yes, yes, before any

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of this was even a social media phenomena, He's been

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involved in this. So yeah, Stan, Oh he's the golden

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child of all of this.

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So yeah, so we were so I mean, we were

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so grateful that we had Stan in that particular area

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with us and uh and it was just, like I said,

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just a fantastic uh uh you know table that that

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we all put together. As you know, I did this

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with the first UH festival that Gwen had. I bought

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like two hundred of these little compases for the you know,

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for kids. Mike Mike ann had had some stuff to

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give away, so we had so many and we're really

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one thing that we were really pushing. And this is

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something that I brought up basically to wrap up my speech,

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is when we're out there big footing, ninety nine point

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nine nine nine nine percent of the time nothing happens.

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But do we take do we take that away that

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nothing happened, or do we take away the time that

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we spent out in the woods with family, learning about nature,

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you know, seeing things that that people wouldn't see, you

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know on a normal time. Uh, seeing ol you know

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here in the coyotes, you know, seeing all the you know,

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the creaturess of the night, you know, kind of kind

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of going through the woods like that. It's we really

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wanted people to take that away that you could be

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out there big funting, you could be out there hiking,

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but take away that time that or keep that time

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that that you have with family, with friends and with nature.

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So we really pushed that. That was That was kind

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of like the keynote of my speech there. But yeah,

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it was. It was a great time. I mean just

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you know, the the other speakers, they were fantastic. You know,

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our friends ken and and Ken Gerhardt and an Seline

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were there and I love those guys. They are They're

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the best and we had a great time with them,

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and but all the other all the other speakers just fantastic.

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I got a shirt the Forest County big. I should

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should have brought it up here, and it has my

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name on it. I'm like, oh my god, you know,

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I know so so I was happy about that. We

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festival population wise, event wise, it was packed. Uh, Saturday

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was absolutely packed and we and we did have a

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uh you know, just so many people at our table

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and and like I said, having everyone there, you know,

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along those tables was it was awesome. I want to

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give a shout out to uh one of our listeners, Brianna,

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who lives her and her family are up in the

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cook Forest area and they listened to us on the podcast,

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they watched us on STM, and very big fans. There

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was a few other people that he came up that said, hey,

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I listened to you. You know when we're we listened

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to the podcast. When when we're at work, we're listening

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to the podcast, you know, where we're in our car.

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So you know, getting to hear that it was.

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Really that is.

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So the food there was great.

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And get the review on where.

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So I ended up and it's disappointed for everything that

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they had. Is it disappointing or not. I I went

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two days to the pizza place, the the wood fired pizza.

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Uh that that pizza was fantastic. The first day I

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got you know, the generic you know, sausage and uh

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and cheese.

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You know.

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The next day I got to Margarita. Oh my god, that.

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Was that's the one that Jeff and Julie brought us

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the same place.

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No, no, no, this was yeah, this was a this

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was a food truck. They're from they're from that area though,

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so I did not see Jeff and Julie there. I

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was I was really hoping to see them they, I know,

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because and I'm gonna tell you those those two they

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are the feet on the ground in the in the

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Alging National Forest. They're fantastic people. Yeah, they're fantastic people

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and and we love them to death. So uh, you know,

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so shout out to to to Jeff and Julie as well.

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I'm trying to think of anything else we saw any

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boother she she was out there, uh camping on her own. Yeah, yeah,

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and uh and yeah. So that was really fun. And

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now if you remember when we did Eric's Camping Bigfoot

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Camping Festival last year, there was a little issue because

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I ended up pointing about half of the prizes from

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the basket raffles, so I yeah, so so we ended

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up I ended up throwing a ticket in for the

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basket raffle at the at the end of the festival,

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I ended up putting a big basket from Pheasants Forever,

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which is it, which is a wildlife conservation group, and

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I got some really cool things from that. So I

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was happy. So it was a very very good good time.

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We Uh, there was an incident that was kind of

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crazy that happened at the camp or I was staying

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at and not at our campground. I was staying at

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an Airbnb camper. Uh not that far from Marionville, and uh,

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let's just say that there was the people at the

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camper next to us were a little too rowdy and

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had the cops coming on Saturday night at like eleven

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thirty at night.

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So that was but being generous with the READI.

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Yeah, I am I, I I absolutely am. So again

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that was just a wonderful festival. When we went out,

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we did the night walk with Mike Finmillian.

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You know.

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Again, our big thing was, uh, you know, you don't

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have to you don't have to have a big Bigfoot encounter.

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It's just being out there as a family.

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You know. Again, we there was so much wildlife that

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was uh that was active that night. So you know,

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just getting families, especially if they're from suburban areas urban areas,

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to be out in the woods and to experience that

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is in itself, you know, probably the best thing. One

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one last thing before we go, And we had talked

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about this from our last show. Payment for the U

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for the speaking fee for the for the Forest County

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Bigfoot Festival. I had them do a donation in my

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name in lieu of payment. So hopefully there should be

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a Facebook post sometime this week. They made a payment

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of five hundred dollars to the County Child Yes, to

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the McKean County Child's Advocacy Center. I worked with them.

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I worked with them on a case where we had

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the victim that lived up in Potter County, but everything

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happened in the town I work in, and they were

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the ones that that did the for forends of interview

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for the for the victim who is a young girl,

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and they did a fantastic job. So the money I

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spoke with the director and the money that that's raised,

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that that was donated, that will go to gift cards

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for gas for people that don't have don't have. The

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money helps by the food you know, it goes.

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That's ad to.

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The victim. So I'm pretty happy about that.

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Uh, that's a big congratulations to those that uh, you

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know participated in the financial donation of that. That's yes,

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So hopefully, well that's awesome, thank.

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You, thank you. So hopefully this week they'll they'll put

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the Facebook post out and then once that's out, well

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we'll share it on on the sash Watch experience.

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Fantastic again, you know, that's a lot of the times.

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That's the stuff we do. Uh here, we we are

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all about giving back at Sasquad Experience. Honest to god,

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I run this the deficit and probably will be divorced

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by the time.

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Yeah, but you know what, you did the right thing.

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We did the right thing.

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And you know what. And again, and I'm going to

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kind of talk about this a little bit and in

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our next segment though, but when you talk about professionalism, right,

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and credential, but you can be the most credential person

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and the biggest name in this field and be an asshole. Yep, right,

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you've got Matteho. But you know, of the entire group,

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I'm the asshole that is not That is the kind

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of nicest, gentlest guy I've ever met. And he's the

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size of a sasquatch, but he's uh, he's a jeful

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giant and just the works that matts. I'm proud to

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have him on the show. I'm proud to have him

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as a And so thank you, thank you, Matt for

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you know kind of care.

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No, thank you, Matt, thanks, thank you.

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You're a great rapper representative of the Sasquatch Experience group.

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You really are. I try to present.

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You are just a good human dude, really, So we'll

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kind of use that to jump off, you know, to

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this next point. I guess it's no stranger. If you

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watch this show, you're probably following the drama of the

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big Footfield is a continues to unferl whether we're talking

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about the aging Bob Gimlin getting beaten up in documentaries. Yeah,

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still haven't shown their light of day yet. Yeah, two

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now eating each other, you know.

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Yeah?

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Right, So we look at Matt Moneymaker and put a

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post out the other at twelve fifteen in the morning

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actually Eastern time, so probably about nine a little at

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the nine Pacific time out there where.

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Matt Moneymaker of the Bigfoot Research right.

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Big Footfield Research Organizator. Yes, indeed, I just put my

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glasses down and tried to adjust them on my face. Sorry,

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that's been that kind of day. So I'll read the post,

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and then in between some of the paragraphs, I have

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my own kind of rebuttal, and I'll let you guys

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kind of get your own rebuttals as well during this.

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All right, that's fine, And so Maco's whenever I post

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something saying that Sasquatches have never attacked or killed any

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humans in modern times. There's always some vociferous people who

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rise up to say that's not true, and they invariably

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point to the writings of a guy named David Polite's. Yeah,

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he has two documentary videos on Netflix based on his

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books about missing people. Without saying so explicitly, Polaity strongly

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suggests that sasquatches are responsible for some mysterious disappearances of people,

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especially in national parks. Many people believe this guy and

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will passionately reference his work whenever I say that sasquatch

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did not attack humans. Intimidation is not the same thing

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as an attack. So I'm going to stop to break there.

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First of all, the documentaries are missing four on one,

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Missing For and Won the Hunted. They're pretty much out

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everywhere now, and I think there's a third one that's

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now coming out too.

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Yes, I believe so the.

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UFO connection, because while he's out warming himself from camp

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to camp, who's ever paying those speaking fees. That's who's

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responsible for these disappearing people. That's no strength, That's not

462
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:21.720
a lie, right, that's the reality. So Matt starts this

463
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.240
post off with my favorite SaaS statement. Sasquatch has never

464
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:29.759
attacked or killed any humans, and we just don't know that.

465
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.400
You know, there's no veracity of that statement, even in

466
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:37.759
modern times, because well, if you were killed by sasas,

467
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:38.839
why don't who the hell is going to live to

468
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:44.640
tell about us exact? I feel the issue and the

469
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:47.000
issue I take with it, and and he kind of

470
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:50.039
adds in modern times, so define modern times?

471
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:50.359
Right.

472
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:54.440
Uh, it's just as foolish as the statements that are

473
00:27:54.480 --> 00:28:00.759
made by David Politen's And to me, like we we

474
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:06.680
infer this creature, it's a unknown entity, right, I'm verified

475
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:12.559
by silence with wild tendencies. Why on earth would we

476
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:18.119
want to continuously portray this thing as a docile herbivore,

477
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:25.079
you know, as with any living creature. I cannot stress

478
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:29.279
enough the use of caution. That's it. I'm not saying

479
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:32.880
these things are murderous, psychopathic, bloodthirsty villains. I'm just saying,

480
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:35.880
excise a little conscient, would you, right, because you're dealing

481
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:42.279
with a wild creature and I get a little I

482
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:47.160
get a little turned by that help people attack people, guys.

483
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:50.440
And if you don't think sasquatch is an ape, and

484
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:52.119
you think it's more of a person who's kind of

485
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:54.720
our apes. You know, we're of the most violent animals

486
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:58.960
on the planet. We kill things because we're bored. Yeah,

487
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:01.759
and I hate chimpanzees. I think they're evil, but the

488
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:06.759
human sucky. Okay, So when we agree, when we try

489
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:09.799
to paint this picture as these peaceful fish giants, and

490
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.839
maybe they are, I'm not saying they're not. I'm not

491
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:14.440
saying get a shovel and beat the hell out of

492
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:16.160
a bigfoot when you see one. What I'm saying is

493
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:19.240
given space and to go out there consistently say oh,

494
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:21.319
they're harmless, they're not going to we don't know that.

495
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:23.839
Do you really want to be responsible or so someone

496
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:28.480
getting their arms ripped off? I don't. I don't want

497
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:30.799
that now. I also don't want everybody to go out

498
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:32.480
there and sleep in the shotgun on the hoo pillow

499
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:34.319
and start bagging things in the middle of the night.

500
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.599
Is that's not safe either, And that's a good point, right,

501
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:42.720
The natural impulses at work through the animal kingdom. Logic

502
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:44.960
and reason are the only things that separate us from

503
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:47.680
the from the animals, right, They're the only things that

504
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:50.240
stop us for just murdering all willing And that doesn't

505
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:53.839
even stop us again contradictory. We killed because we can.

506
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.240
It's a natural impulse. Most of us have that ability

507
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.640
to control it, as we know a lot of people don't,

508
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:03.319
he goes. I'm to say I've known for years that

509
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.599
Polite lies a lot, but it required a very good

510
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:10.039
researcher in the arena of mysterious disappearances to fully show

511
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:13.440
how much of outright fraud Polites is along with the

512
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:16.079
missing floor in one series. And if you have the

513
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:19.440
slightest care about the topic, and they claims that sasquaffs

514
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:23.559
are probably responsible for some unexplained disappearances, then you should

515
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:27.440
watch the YouTube video that thoroughly debunks and exposes Polities.

516
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:29.160
He's a fraud and the first So this isn't a

517
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:32.119
new video. The videos have been out from the Lorelaw

518
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:34.599
just been out for eleven months. And if you could

519
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:37.240
sit through the brefest that the video actually is, because

520
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.119
it's not very entertaining, and I'm not saying I just

521
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:43.039
don't find the video very entertaining. And I know he's

522
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:46.880
meant to kind of expose all this fraud on David

523
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:51.000
Politi's but fraud's a big word. You'd be very careful

524
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:53.519
when you're using that. There's some very wijitdous people out

525
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:58.880
there say it like this, the dots that these connect

526
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:05.400
and just don't connect without them fitting to connect, all right.

527
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:09.559
And then there's a lot of times that even on

528
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:14.000
his own right, depending on which which camp he's playing to,

529
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:17.279
rather it's the UFO people or the Bigfoot people. At

530
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:20.519
the conferences he goes to, that's where he kind of

531
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:22.880
changes his story. And it doesn't mean he's a nice guy.

532
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:25.799
You know, you could still be a nice guy and

533
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:30.640
be a money naked piece of shit. It happens. But again,

534
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:34.960
we have two people both accused of the very same thing.

535
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:39.039
Mind you, many maker's soul is not completely pure. You know,

536
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.920
four hundred dollars to go on an expedition to charge

537
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:46.039
for Bigfoot maybe you have an experience or not. You know,

538
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:49.119
the argument could be made that, you know that in

539
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:53.920
itself could potentially be flawed. Right, So let's not let's

540
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:57.519
not slice too much and too thinly here. You know,

541
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.640
it's just as a community now we're starting to attack

542
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:07.680
each other and the problem isn't really in the community.

543
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:08.759
By his own choice.

544
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:14.240
Yeah, you know, he's you bring up politician, you bring

545
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:21.960
up some extremely good points. You know, Polighty's always starts

546
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:29.839
his interviews or his whatever whatever it is he presents

547
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:37.079
that he's in law enforcement. So that encapsulates, Oh, I'm

548
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.880
being completely honest about everything I'm going to share with you.

549
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.400
That may not be true, that may not be true.

550
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:53.119
I always hold some skepticism from everything he has ever shared,

551
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:59.119
but it is extremely fascinating. Matt Moneymaker does the same thing.

552
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.000
Like I've been in the Bigfoot re you know, research

553
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:09.279
field for years. I've been doing this and and that

554
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:14.400
brings up the same It brings up the same kind

555
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:24.079
of whatever volume of I don't know. I'm not, I'm

556
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:28.079
not I'm trying to find the words, but equal value

557
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:33.839
between Politi's and what Moneymaker are saying with each other.

558
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.119
And so I have to sit here and play this

559
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:41.279
volleyball game between the two of them, and I'm like,

560
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:46.960
I don't know who's bringing more to the table of truth.

561
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:51.559
And it really makes it kind of you know, it

562
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:58.440
makes it for me personally. It makes it kind of interesting.

563
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:03.119
It's very interesting between the two of their points, but

564
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:07.640
I don't know which one is bringing more truth to

565
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:08.360
the table.

566
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:11.199
The problem is there's no points that are really brought

567
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:15.639
to the table. It's regurgitated information, right, that's imagulated and

568
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:18.719
not done right now, lore lodge what they do. While

569
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:22.679
the video is not very entertaining, it is very informational,

570
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:26.000
and so we're prepared to sit down and take some notes.

571
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:29.000
But as a community, we've spent a great deal of

572
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:32.639
time promoting the virtue of veterans and law enforcement being

573
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:36.079
the best in the field. Only the really let down

574
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:39.360
time and time again by people that really hold those credentials. Matt,

575
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:42.280
we're executing you from that, of course, and there's always

576
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:48.000
right zigone and many others, you know, And I'm not

577
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:50.440
taking for the love of God, nobody take it as

578
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.599
a shock of veterans and law enforcement. But those are

579
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:55.639
the people we extoll and put at the forefront of

580
00:34:55.679 --> 00:35:00.239
the field, every credentialed right, But you know, we we

581
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:03.119
look at the credentials. People look at the credentials of polities.

582
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:06.159
They start diving in what does Matt Moneymaker do? On

583
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.440
every report that's listened on to be a website At

584
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.400
the bottom of the bottom of the pain, there's a

585
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:17.119
CV of every investigator that has touched that case. And

586
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:25.519
that's to show credibility right, credibilities isn't equalified by credentials.

587
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:28.360
You can have all the credentials in the world and

588
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:29.480
still suck at what you can do.

589
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.320
Yes, I totally agree.

590
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.719
And I think that's where we as a community have

591
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:38.599
to step back and stop putting up these pedestals for

592
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:40.280
these folks that haven't earned it.

593
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:41.079
Yep.

594
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:44.000
Now, I love the fact that Matt, you know this.

595
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.000
A lot of the people we associate with or of

596
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:48.800
law enforcement and they bring a certain level of skill.

597
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:51.480
And Matt, you work with me enough to know I'm

598
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.000
a sponge. I absorb everything I can from people I

599
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:56.400
work with. The power of we is better than the

600
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:56.960
power of me.

601
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:57.360
Right.

602
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.800
And while we're out working with these folks, and it

603
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:02.840
always looks great to have them on a podcast. So

604
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:04.880
it's great to have them as some sort of expert

605
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.360
testimony in something and that quirky whatever is going to

606
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:11.320
get pistically use that they're an expert. Again, just often

607
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:13.599
die my friend, it's my show. I'll use whatever word

608
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:18.239
I want. There are folks that have expertise and fields

609
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:24.000
that relate directly to this research, right, and so those

610
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.760
are the folks we like to bring those credentials in

611
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:30.239
to add credibility to our team, but they have to

612
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:33.400
be applied, right. That's also if you're going to carry

613
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:37.920
those credentials, you have to carry yourself right. And sometimes

614
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.800
that's where the rub comes, right, those folks make issues

615
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:44.639
and their professional life, and so they've made this jump.

616
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:48.400
And you know, history is very revisional. It's so a

617
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:50.840
little bit harder to do it now because of Google

618
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:54.400
and the World Wide Web, but history is revisional, and

619
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:58.280
folks tend to find ways to make the less desirable

620
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.960
parts of them disappear so that we could stand among

621
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:06.519
peers and write these books. And you know, the jury's

622
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:10.199
still out of a lot. While I don't believe in

623
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:16.159
the missing four one one connection entirely, just because he

624
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:18.719
didn't put the right shade of lipstick on doesn't mean

625
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:21.480
it's not pretty, doesn't mean there's not truth to it.

626
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.440
Right. I agree with you Sean.

627
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:27.519
What polities does bring in that is, even though it's

628
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:31.400
a lot of collection and a lot of amagulation, that's

629
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:34.800
still more than what moneymakers brought to the table to

630
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:38.320
support his fact that these things are Uncle fluffy, that

631
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:42.559
they're not harmful creatures. And as much as we also

632
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:45.079
turn to the point where we educate the people that

633
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:48.400
come and listen to his speek. The people that come

634
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.960
and you know, go to conferences and conventions, and they

635
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:53.840
bring their kids, and we want them to have this

636
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:56.119
desire and this wonder to be out in the woods

637
00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:59.920
and to explore the strange world around us. I also

638
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.480
when I'm cuddling up the black bears or grizzly bears

639
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.920
either exactly, So we go out and say, hey, can't

640
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.880
stay away from that bear, He's going to eat your face.

641
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:12.039
You should kind of be the same attitude we have

642
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:14.119
with Sasquat.

643
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:16.719
Should we have to prove one exists? And so let

644
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:20.760
me ask a question. Let me ask a question. How

645
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:26.679
do you feel that between polite E's and moneymaker? How

646
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:32.440
is AI going to differentiate between the two and having

647
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:36.440
people's opinions be changed with AI?

648
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:41.320
Well, are are you talking about AI as a tool?

649
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:46.239
And yes, if you ask the question, how is AI

650
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:51.800
going to differentiate between those two opinions of each other?

651
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.760
Well, I think with any logical formulation, it's going to

652
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:58.239
put them on opposite sides of the spectrum. You know,

653
00:38:58.280 --> 00:38:59.639
you'd have one that's prob and.

654
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:01.840
I kind of figure that was going to be the

655
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:05.400
end result. It's going to put them on the opposite ends.

656
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.239
I really did, but I mean they're.

657
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:10.880
On the opposite ends now, AI aside. I think the

658
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:15.719
only thing AI is doing is potentially could add some

659
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:21.079
alliteration and some unless you prompt it well, pardon me,

660
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.239
unless you prompt it well and asked it to take

661
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:29.519
out certain qualifiers, it could lump in a lot of

662
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:33.760
fiction right with reality. And so you add that blending

663
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:35.280
of stories.

664
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:39.320
No, I totally agree, and I totally agree. You know,

665
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:44.559
before the whole before the whole AI revolution has come

666
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:49.760
a blossomed, I would listen to Polity's stories, and I

667
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:55.239
was completely fascinated and horrified by listening to all of

668
00:39:55.280 --> 00:40:01.599
his uh stories and giving all these deep tales of

669
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:05.519
everything he had to give. And then I listened to Moneymaker,

670
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.840
and I'm like, yeah, well, well that might be. But

671
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:15.960
I was not nearly enthrawled as much as David Politi's

672
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:20.000
stories were. So then I was starting to wonder, is

673
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:23.559
a lot of this just kind of made up?

674
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.599
Yeah? And I would have no doubt that our advance

675
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.679
and a lot of this, listen, it plays on emotion

676
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.880
just like anything that's hot in Yeah, right now, great

677
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:37.360
conversation started even I look, I'm getting hot about this topic.

678
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:41.360
And I had no I had no real skin in

679
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:43.280
the game besides trying to say the skin of our

680
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:45.039
friends and kids that are out there wanting to get

681
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:45.800
both from input.

682
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:48.039
But okay, that's true.

683
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:53.320
You know in this whole argument that the argument goes

684
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:57.800
back to the core that Matt Moneymaker doesn't like the

685
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:01.480
fact David Polities has used this for to promote sasquatches

686
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:06.239
are vindictive, evil, murdering creatures that cause are speranciational point right,

687
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:11.559
because it shies away from his vision of the fantastic

688
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:15.199
forest people and their meadows of spring flowers and you know,

689
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:22.320
sasquatches frolicking amongst the wild flowers. And there's two different narratives, right,

690
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:26.760
and in there in between is the invariable truth that

691
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:29.679
doesn't play to emotion and and what's the truth? The

692
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.400
truth is right here in this little box. Folks. You're

693
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.360
dealing with the potential of a wild animal. It's gonna

694
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:39.320
have good days, it's gonna have bad days, plain and simple.

695
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:42.760
Don't fuck with it. It doesn't be any more difficult

696
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.400
as we go out and try to elicit responses from

697
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:46.079
improving again.

698
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.280
Yeah, that's a good point.

699
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:50.960
But you know that could have a negative effect one day. Yeah,

700
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:54.440
running through the woods and Matt pushes me down and

701
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:55.280
I'm big footboll.

702
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:59.119
No, that's a good point. Just get that's a really

703
00:41:59.119 --> 00:41:59.639
good point.

704
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:03.239
But we don't know, We don't know, and that and

705
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:06.800
so so much of this goes back to what we

706
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.920
feel and two guys that have a little bit of

707
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:17.239
self aggrandization that putting themselves up above others, and my opinion,

708
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.519
weighs more than others. It's a me me me and

709
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:23.760
a me me me, and we don't know. Polite's put

710
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:26.039
a lot of time and effort into something. If it's

711
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:28.519
a fraud, that the word, that's the word others have used.

712
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:31.800
I'm not calling it that, but that's the word. He's

713
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:34.280
spent a lot of time working on it and promis

714
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:37.920
he did that. That's that's dedication to her.

715
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:39.960
W Yes it is now.

716
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:42.400
There's one hundred and fifty other problems I have with

717
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:44.679
David Polti's that have nothing to do with missing four

718
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:47.920
one one. We've talked about Missing four one one. There

719
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:53.360
are there missing people disappearing in national parks, YEP, yes,

720
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:56.480
that's a fact. Are they all related?

721
00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:58.679
Not necessarily?

722
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:03.480
Night, Are some of them related more than likely? Is

723
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:06.239
this formula he came up with the golden standard for

724
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:10.840
missing people? Not a chance in hell. They're just points

725
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:14.280
you could. We could go out there and find fifty

726
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:15.960
different shades of blue. At the end of the day,

727
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:21.639
it's blue. Yeah. Right, But they're still very different, right,

728
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:24.599
And they all have a different way they resonate and

729
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:28.840
manipulate and made people feel. Bones are very interesting color, right,

730
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:34.559
Color in general is very interesting. But two again, they're

731
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.480
both using this emotional play to I don't even know

732
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:39.800
where the hell I was going with color. I completely

733
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:43.559
lost the thing on that one. It had an important

734
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:45.400
thought and I lost it as quickly as I was

735
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:49.039
doing with it. Sorry, folks, that's all right. But they

736
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:55.679
are diametrically different fides of the same coin, you know.

737
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:58.480
I remember we talked earlier today that we're not competitors, right,

738
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:01.519
We're all friends. Some of them are competitors. It is

739
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:04.320
market share for some of these guys, and it is

740
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:08.960
about generating eyes and business. There is a reality to

741
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:13.960
what David Puladis is trying to sell, and it's the

742
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.239
reality I pointed out to you, guys, this could be

743
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:20.239
a dangerous creature, could be we could assume it will

744
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:23.239
be if you don't do things right to it, if

745
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:24.400
you don't leave it alone.

746
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:24.719
Right.

747
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:29.760
Yeah, intimidation, true intimidation is not the same thing as violence,

748
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:33.280
as Matt Moneymaker says, which is not. Actually intimidation is

749
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:34.800
the freakurs of violence.

750
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:38.880
But none of this means that fifty percent of what

751
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:43.639
polite is is shared and fifty percent of what Moneymaker

752
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:48.320
is shared is not true. It might be real, it

753
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:52.880
may very well have happened, and it's a fifty to

754
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:53.599
fifty thing.

755
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:58.119
So you go back to that credibility pieces by jumping

756
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:01.800
back and forth. And when says it here eloquently, it's

757
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:03.880
a ploy to stay in the forefront of the community

758
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:06.960
that has nothing new to offer, right, And I agree

759
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:13.320
with that. And and just like damon, the only thing

760
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:17.119
new to being offering there is missing people. But at

761
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:18.760
the end of the day, we can find out they're

762
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:20.320
just to identified serial killers.

763
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:23.880
Yeah, well, or just you know, they fell off a

764
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:26.000
cliff and broke a leg and they died.

765
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:29.599
Wellstically speaking, you have a better chance of that than

766
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:33.119
getting murdered by a bigfoot, right, and you have a

767
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:35.360
better chance of being abducted by a serial killers, and

768
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.480
you do have being killed by a big but maybe we.

769
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:40.679
Don't know, Maybe we don't know.

770
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:43.800
Those are very disturbing lines of thoughts would go down

771
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:46.760
based upon the we don't know, and then you know,

772
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:48.880
furthermore of this. I'll just surmise this.

773
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:50.719
Uh.

774
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.400
You know, I just don't like anybody creating an illusion

775
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:56.559
of false safety, right, And I also don't like anybody

776
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:01.960
promoting this murderous sas watch terrorizing national parts right now.

777
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:05.000
The National Park Service doesn't need any dive and tourism,

778
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:11.480
but we as a community are guilty of creating opportunities

779
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:16.320
for people like Politis and people like Moneymaker to continuously

780
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:21.360
go out there and promote these on a supported theories

781
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:24.760
and unsupported facts and just meeting them like these guys

782
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:28.119
are better than anyone else. They're just guys. Some of

783
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.800
them have been on TV more than others, that's it.

784
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:34.599
They make no mistake. They don't know anything more than

785
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:35.440
anybody else.

786
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:38.800
I mean, I write a report today that a five

787
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:45.639
year old was severely injured by a bison in Yellowstone.

788
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:51.239
We can't contribute that to a big footing counter we can't.

789
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:54.639
But for how many years have we told people that

790
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:55.880
the bison will hurt you.

791
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:57.599
Yeah, if you approach.

792
00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:00.320
Them, stay away, they're wild. And yet some dumb alarent

793
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:03.119
did pay a township probably listened to the matt and

794
00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:06.320
moneymaker of bison's out there and told them that, oh,

795
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:09.840
it's okay going stand next to you know, Bruno the bison.

796
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:12.000
They think it's hunted into next.

797
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:16.199
Exactly.

798
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:21.159
Yeah, Well, I mean I was gonna say that the

799
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:24.400
most one of the most dangerous animals in North America

800
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:27.800
is the moose. Yeah, and the moose onlunteering your arms

801
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:31.760
apart there. But one thing that they do that people

802
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:35.360
attribute Bigfoot two is they'll do a bluff charge. Ye,

803
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:38.039
but then they'll they'll continue going and they'll go right

804
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:43.119
through you. But but yeah, you know, it's about safety.

805
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:47.360
This question was brought up during the roundtable at the

806
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:50.400
UH at the Forest County Bigfoot. I didn't I didn't

807
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:52.679
respond because there was a lot of a lot of

808
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.679
different people and they want to move on. But uh,

809
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:59.760
the one thing is is that is that with Bigfoot,

810
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:05.239
it's not Bigfoot itself that will hurt you or kill you,

811
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:09.400
but it's big foot ting. And the one thing is,

812
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:12.519
I remember what two years ago, we had two guys

813
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:16.000
out in the Pacific Northwest. They decided to to go

814
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:20.320
out to look for bigfoot after Christmas. Did not bring

815
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:25.719
any any water resistant clothing, didn't have any any compasses,

816
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:28.800
any maps. They just went out there and started, you know,

817
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:33.639
they just around the back country. They both died, you know,

818
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:38.679
they both died of exposure. So it so and we

819
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:41.119
always talked about up in Potter County. You got snakes,

820
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:44.679
you got clear drop offs, cliffs, uh, you got so

821
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:47.119
many places that you can get turned around, get lost,

822
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:52.119
and so you do have to keep safety in your mind.

823
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:55.559
Can something like this potentially harm you or hurt you?

824
00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:02.559
As absolutely absolutely, But Matt, I think you executed the

825
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:03.440
point flawlessly.

826
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:05.559
There again, it's a night of compliments from Matt here.

827
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:06.000
Thank you.

828
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:12.400
The point made is dig fook him will kill you

829
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:17.760
if you're not careful anything, honest to God. It's it's

830
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:20.840
a safety and a common sense thing. And as with

831
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:25.280
anything with any wildlife, keep your distance, admire from a distance,

832
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:28.920
you know, just use common sense and folks, that was

833
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.159
a long way of kind of making that point. But

834
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:34.800
you know, when you have, you know, a person in

835
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:36.639
this field that a lot of people look up to,

836
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.119
going after somebody in this field that a lot of

837
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:41.960
people look up to, and you have somebody in this

838
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:43.800
field that you know, maybe somebody looks up to me.

839
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:45.639
I feel bad for them what they do. I just

840
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:47.920
want to be the voice of reason in there that says, hey, listen,

841
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:51.440
there are points you know that are to be made

842
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:55.320
on both sides. There are points right, pay attention to

843
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:59.239
it all. Don't follow one doctrine blindness, because the Matt says,

844
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:03.960
the most important thing is safety. Big footing will hurt

845
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:07.039
you if you're not careful. Your own self is your

846
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:11.400
biggest victim. Your biggest victim is your business opportunity to

847
00:50:11.400 --> 00:50:13.719
make you a victim.

848
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:19.119
And that is an extremely good point. If you do

849
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:23.760
not venture out, when you put your boots on, and

850
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:26.719
you do not venture out, and you don't have every

851
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:34.280
aspect of what can protect you from every single threat

852
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:38.039
that comes your way, I'm sorry, you're a dumb ass.

853
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:43.400
You are a dumb yeah. Right. You have to protect

854
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:48.039
every aspect of what it is that you are doing.

855
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:51.280
You have to know the danger, yep, right, and you

856
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:55.360
do have to acknowledge that there is danger. Yep, that's

857
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:58.719
that's the key. We've been almost through that whole hour already.

858
00:50:59.280 --> 00:50:59.840
You believe that.

859
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:03.920
Wow, what a crazy night has been. And you know, honestly,

860
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:05.639
we haven't even you know, got into some of the

861
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:09.440
more recent sightings that catch up on. We believe well,

862
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:12.000
citing reports that have come back, we will to catch

863
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:14.639
up on. And it's it is. But it's been nice.

864
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:18.800
And Henry, Henry has been sitting there back and forth. Henry,

865
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:20.559
what do you have for us?

866
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:24.840
Come on, man, Mary, Well, here's the thing.

867
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:29.199
If you think about Matt Moneymakers saying, oh, well, well

868
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:34.679
there's no credible end of this South squatched that humans

869
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:39.519
who what about that? Did Matt money Maker forget about that?

870
00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:42.679
Unless that wasn't a sad squatch?

871
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:45.599
You do have that in town. You had the Albert

872
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:48.239
Austman encounter, you have eight Canyon. You know, there's all

873
00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:52.519
kinds of stories that are passed through you have you know,

874
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.639
you even have stories up here in Pennsylvania of aggressive

875
00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:01.559
you know, bigfoot type encounters. So you have to just well,

876
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:04.119
thank you, Jay, wonderful show GluN having back. It's great

877
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:06.760
to be back. Our friend. Another wonderful supporter of ours

878
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:11.679
again you we exercise common sense and be safe, folks.

879
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:14.360
That's all we can say. We love our listeners, we

880
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:16.280
love our friends. We want to make sure you all

881
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:18.159
get back safely from your journey.

882
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:21.119
And I give you all a big hug. Yeah, they

883
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:22.559
give you all a big hug.

884
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:26.880
Matt or Matt, you said you wanted to have a

885
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:29.159
closing point tonight. What was your closing point?

886
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:36.119
My closing point tonight is completely switching gears that when

887
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:40.679
I was born in nineteen sixty one, and yes, I'm

888
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:44.679
going to date myself, this country was one hundred and

889
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:49.440
eighty five years old, and now we're celebrating our two

890
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:56.800
hundred and fiftieth year. I want everybody to just completely

891
00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:04.000
enthrall and in absorb the amazing country in which we

892
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:09.239
live in. We live in the freest, greatest, kick ass

893
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:16.559
country for two hundred and fifty years. So coming this Saturday, please,

894
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:23.440
whatever you do, you enjoy this two hundred and fiftieth

895
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:29.320
anniversary of the independence of our country. And that's what

896
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:33.559
I've got to say. Why I left everybody stunned.

897
00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:38.719
Yeah, going to not to go back to what I

898
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:41.760
was saying, but going back on the safety thing. I

899
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:44.519
want to make sure that when we all come back

900
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:48.159
that everyone has their fingers. You know. No, don't pick

901
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:53.679
up duds. Don't don't, yeah, don't, don't watch the Roman noodles,

902
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:53.920
you know.

903
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:54.400
Nope.

904
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:58.039
Let the professionals take care of it. Be very cautious.

905
00:53:58.320 --> 00:53:59.519
The worst I deal with.

906
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:00.880
Digit on your hands.

907
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:05.599
Yes, yeah, it's inevitable. We deal with so many traumas

908
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:08.840
fourth and July weekend, so please be careful.

909
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:12.360
Yeah, keep all the digits on your hands. That is

910
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:20.480
most important. Yeah, but enjoy America two fifty Go America.

911
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:24.119
And Henry take us out. Oh, go ahead, Hold on, Henry,

912
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:25.079
go ahead.

913
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:28.239
No, I was gonna say, I do have my BUCkies

914
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:32.760
two hundred and fiftieth America Anniversary shirt, So I'm all

915
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:33.320
set for that.

916
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:37.159
He's ready to go old BUCkies.

917
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:39.920
Now, Henry take us out.

918
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:43.599
I'll be good, be good at it.

919
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:47.480
Yeah, indeed, all right, we'll see you next time. Keep

920
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:48.800
on squatching it.

921
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:54.840
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922
00:54:54.960 --> 00:55:03.880
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925
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926
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