Oct. 28, 2022

What's In Rinna’s Envelope & Raven... Why Are You Doing Jumping Jacks?

What's In Rinna’s Envelope & Raven... Why Are You Doing Jumping Jacks?
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WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:12.359 Hi, you're listening to my Reality Says podcast, brought to you by My 2 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:18.000 Therapist. As we're here to discuss everything pop culture, influencers, blind gossip, 3 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:28.440 and of course reality TV. We put the tea in reality. This 4 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:33.439 week, we're going to be discussing the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills finale reunion 5 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:40.039 episode, a new episode of Salt Lake City, Bling Empire, and the 6 00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:46.119 first four episodes of Love Is Blind. We're gonna start off with the Beverly 7 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:51.320 Hills reunion. I can't even believe that we made it through this season. 8 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:57.399 I think we deserve a medal. How was that whole like Elton John fiasco? 9 00:00:57.560 --> 00:01:00.479 Like this season, it's been a whole roller coaster. Wait, that 10 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:03.359 was this season? I thought it was like at least two seasons ago. 11 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:08.439 No, that was this season. Like so much has happened, and I 12 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:15.359 feel like the biggest drama is like the last two episodes, and it's just 13 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:22.799 been a lot. We've been through it. While we finally survived the two 14 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:27.439 boring, kind of unnecessary reunion episodes and we finally got to Kathy and Rnham 15 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:34.959 and Kyle We'll stand down, So yeah, and Cathy showed up like a 16 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:42.680 queen and her slippers saying hi girls, like so condescendingly, Like I love 17 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:47.680 her the way she throws shade. It's like the classiest way to throw shade. 18 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:51.560 I love it. Also, I love how no matter what, and 19 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:57.040 like every time she's on screen anywhere, she always somehow brings up Paris and 20 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:00.560 how Paris invented something that's my cool. No, that's my favorite thing about 21 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:07.400 her. And she's like the most supportive all this. So I would have 22 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:14.520 invented Barbie Core. It's so cute, it's giving jazzy. I know, 23 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:20.360 I love it. I wish my mom was like that. Um No, 24 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:24.159 they have such a cute relationship. I mean, I can't really say the 25 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:30.479 same about their sister relationship. I feel really sad about it. I hope 26 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:37.039 everything gets worked out between them, because I just feel like for those sisters 27 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:40.560 in particular, maybe like reality TV isn't the move for them, Like it 28 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:46.680 wasn't great for um Kyle and Kim back in the day, did not work 29 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:52.800 out so good for them. So I feel like the same thing is almost 30 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:59.599 happening. I feel like history is being being repeated here. Maybe family therapy 31 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:04.800 is a a call. I don't know, like I mean, I love 32 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:07.919 to watch them. I think they make the show. But that's like me 33 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:12.639 as a selfish as a viewer, But like if they were my friends, 34 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:15.719 that'd be like, Wow, you guys have a lot of unresolved issues. 35 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:20.199 Maybe hug it out, go to like family therapy, like the way Kardashians 36 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:23.240 used to on like keeping Up with the Kardashians. Yeah, oh my god, 37 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:28.360 the good old days. I feel like Kathy when she signed up for 38 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:30.759 Real House I was at Beverly Hills. She was more kind of, you 39 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:34.599 know, thinking to be she was just going to be a friend of like 40 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:39.159 dropping in, having those funny like hunky dory moments and stuff like that. 41 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:43.960 And now she got involved in all of this drama and she's like, wait, 42 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:46.360 I didn't sign up for this, like you know what it is. 43 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:51.199 As she said, she thought her and Lisa Wenda were friends and she could 44 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:55.439 trust her. That's where she went wrong. Yeah, she realized that. 45 00:03:55.520 --> 00:04:00.159 I think Hathy is like used to getting a lot of things her way, 46 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:03.879 so when things I do think she had her breakdown. I'll just say that 47 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:08.400 I do think she definitely had some sort of a break Yeah. I don't 48 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:13.159 think this is all like some fabricated thing. I do think she had a 49 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:15.800 breakdown, but I don't think it was to the extent that Lisa is saying. 50 00:04:15.839 --> 00:04:19.040 I think it's a lot a lot of it is exaggerated. I don't 51 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:25.399 see her saying that she had a I don't see her saying that slur just 52 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:32.800 because I think Kathy only Erica hurt it, only Erica got and then that 53 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:36.360 that's what got to the press. If only Erica hurt it, how did 54 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:42.720 it get to the press. That's not suspicious at all. We see through 55 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:46.079 you, ericat Um. But yeah, I just think Kathy is like very 56 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:51.600 media trained, being a Hilton, So I don't see how she would just 57 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:58.279 be like saying slurs left and right, even if the cameras were, like 58 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:00.600 even if she's drunk, like she it's in l a Like, I don't 59 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:05.040 think it's okay in any capacity to be saying stuff like that, like, 60 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:10.279 you know, for where she lives, for the kind of family she's a 61 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:13.680 part of, for the kind of people she hangs out with. I just 62 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:16.560 don't see how she would ever be comfortable saying things like that. No, 63 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:24.199 and like going on TV, did she freak out because someone wasn't playing her 64 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:28.680 song. Yeah, hundred percent believe that. But like, I think it's 65 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:32.959 just a matter of Cathy like always getting what she wants, and she didn't 66 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:38.600 get what she wanted, and she didn't get her tequila represented. She felt 67 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:44.160 like it was like the world's against her exactly right after one thing, right 68 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:48.639 after the other, and she had a breakdown. I don't I think she's 69 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:54.959 well equipped to deal with things not going her way always, so I feel 70 00:05:55.000 --> 00:06:00.920 like it took those two small things to really unravel her, which like it's 71 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:05.800 giving spoiled bitch and I love it, but I feel like she's used to 72 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:10.319 people like protecting her and like, you know, being able to trust people. 73 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:15.120 It's so funny because I believe some of the things Lisa is saying, 74 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:19.800 but the way that she's saying in and how she's exaggerating things and being so 75 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:25.399 dramatic, like I was abused, I was locked in a room. Oh 76 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:29.920 my god, Like that is what makes Cathy no, like, no matter 77 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:34.519 what happened, come up in the end, because Lisa is just like coming 78 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:42.480 across in the worst way possible. It's abused Garcella. I was like, 79 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:46.560 oh my god, and then I'm like, wait, didn't you guys attack 80 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:53.040 Crystal for like three episodes for saying violated and now Kathy is she's abusing you, 81 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:57.879 like exactly, exactly. Actually, there was a lot of things that 82 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:01.319 like, we're very hypocritical, that's like everyone else allowed to do. But 83 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:10.319 Renna, oh my god, it doesn't make sense. Ah, I was 84 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:15.399 dying. I don't know how this didn't go through her mind, Like she's 85 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:18.240 so insensitive. We just need to talk about Erica for a second. How 86 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:27.959 she used the plane crash analogy to describe her situation. How can she not 87 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:33.399 understand that there's plane crash victims involved, and you know that might not come 88 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:40.360 across, It might not hit home, It might be too soon too friends, 89 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.639 How can she not understand that? I? Like, I can see 90 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:48.199 what she was trying to say, but like, it definitely was not the 91 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:54.639 right analogy. She didn't land the plane. Let's just say that I did 92 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:58.839 really enjoy her little Tiara and her like ice creen. Look she looks all 93 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:05.279 I kept looking a Toddlers and your kind of situation in that affit. Yeah, 94 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:09.519 but it was super entertaining. I just like loved watching her try to 95 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:13.639 explain herself and she was very like she was owning up to her ship. 96 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:18.120 She was apologizing to the right people. And you know, she actually was 97 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:22.399 very likable that whole reunion, Like she didn't say anything like as terrible as 98 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:26.519 she has this whole season. I feel like maybe she's finally coming to a 99 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:31.759 better place. I think a little bit you can see that she's like growing 100 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:39.519 some somewhat taking accountability. But I wouldn't go as far to call her likable 101 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:48.919 personally. Yeah, I think I still think she needs to. She didn't 102 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:54.480 show up enough for the victims. Still in this reunion episode. I think, 103 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:58.159 well, like I don't. I think she's right, it's not her 104 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:01.799 responsibility, like it's a ego matter. She's winning these cases. She's you 105 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:07.200 know, fighting for a life in the words of Jed Shaw, and I 106 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:11.840 feel like people need to stop like putting that on her, Like maybe we 107 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:15.799 are not giving her enough benefit. Maybe once she does, like you know, 108 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.799 finish with all the lawsuits, she'll be able to do something for them 109 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:22.639 and show up and be the charitable, like normal person. But right now 110 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:26.120 she doesn't have the bandwidth. I don't know, you can still say like 111 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:31.279 I feel for them, Like that's just like the bare minimum of like saying 112 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:39.360 she's she was basically saying, like I don't give a funk about that. 113 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.919 Well, she did say that in in Aspen, but like I feel like 114 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:46.720 at the Union she was kind of backtracking on that a little bit, like 115 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:50.200 not a lot, but a little bit, and then the earring things, 116 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:54.120 she was standing by it so clearly, like, you know, I just 117 00:09:54.159 --> 00:10:01.120 want to say that my next excuse for anything is gonna be for legal reasons. 118 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:05.240 Like if I'm late for work, I'm gonna be like our legal reasons. 119 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:09.480 If I cancel all my plans, I'm gonna say it's for legal reasons. 120 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:16.639 It's just for legal reasons, for legal reasons, Sandy, for legal 121 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:22.240 reasons. But yes, it's on a hill. The only thing she could 122 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:26.320 say for like five minutes. I don't know what kind of legal training she's 123 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:33.559 been doing, but I'd like to watch it because there's like definitely some lawyer 124 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.799 in her ear piece being like, legal reasons. Legally, I plead the 125 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:45.720 fifth, I plead the fifth. No. I really really enjoyed actually when 126 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:50.039 Cathy came in and the first thing she did was she kind of roasted Lisa 127 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:54.080 Arena in like a funny way I thought that was super cute, and Lisa's 128 00:10:54.120 --> 00:11:01.360 face was just like so not pleased. I was dying how Lisa is always 129 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:05.399 remembering what everybody is saying, always bringing it up. But when it comes 130 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:09.519 to what she said, Oh, she suddenly has memory loss. Oh you 131 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:13.639 don't remember that you said that you were preaching to the choir. It's like, 132 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:18.639 do you really think that during this whole conversation Lisa, she wasn't giving 133 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:22.360 her anything back. Yeah, like she was just like, stop stop, 134 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.039 I'm being abused. No, she was definitely bringing and like talking throughout whatever 135 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:30.919 Cathy was saying, like, Kathy's not a feral animal. If she's not 136 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:33.039 getting like anything back, if she's getting like really, oh my god, 137 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:39.480 please stop, she wouldn't be keep doing it. And she felt safe and 138 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:43.879 like I don't think it was as like volatile as she makes it up to 139 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:48.200 be, because like, wasn't Mauricio in the house, Like when have been 140 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:54.240 able to hear you like these glasses being stomped on and screaming and yelling like 141 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:58.759 oh yeah, when she's like it was in the dark, I was scared 142 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:00.799 and Cathy was like what do you me? And the lights were on, 143 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:05.240 were in Erica's bedroom also isn't Cathy like kind of blind, Like she wears 144 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:09.360 glass most of the time. I wouldn't like stop on her only glasses, 145 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:16.879 like calm down and be in the dark. Like no, no, all 146 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:18.919 of that is so over dramatic, And she made it sound like it was 147 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:22.240 like some sort of horror film. It was like, you know, get 148 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:28.720 out territory, and poor little Lisa thought that big bad Godzilla Cathy was gonna 149 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.480 like attack her. She had to lock the door, like I'm sorry, 150 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:35.639 what, Like, no one is going to believe that. If anything, 151 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:37.240 I'd be locking the door if I was sleeping in the same house at least, 152 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:41.759 Oh my god, exactly, and I was dying out hypocritical she was 153 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:46.960 when she was called out, being like so you like you scream and yell 154 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:50.840 at people, And she just said so like she had like no defense back. 155 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:54.519 She was just like so exactly, and like not enough people are calling 156 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.840 her out. Yeah, people really need to call her out on that. 157 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.399 I don't know why everyone so scared of her. I really don't get it. 158 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.919 I do feel like I saw for the first time this episode of the 159 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:13.080 Reunion a little bit of the like Core four group, like breaking up a 160 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:18.159 little bit, like you saw Cat Kyle, you know, kind of yelling 161 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:24.120 at the read a little bit. Yeah, and then you saw um like 162 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:30.480 Cat Kyle and Lisa also like having because of all this drama a little bit, 163 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.799 even though like she's still sticking by Lisa. I think, I think 164 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:39.759 this tension is gonna like make a few like riffs in the group that we 165 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.919 actually definitely need for next season, because right now I hate this like this 166 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.360 is one group and this is the other group, and we're gonna stick by 167 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:50.559 them. So that's the feeling you got, because that's the opposite of the 168 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.399 feeling that I got. By the end of this, I was like, 169 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:58.759 Wow, these four women are still like sticking by each other. They're still 170 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:01.120 in this fact like it's still them against everyone else. And after all this 171 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:05.960 ship that Lisa like put everyone through, everyone's still basically upper us. Like 172 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.360 I don't get it, and so no, I think there's still like a 173 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:13.440 group. But I saw like a few comments here and there where they like 174 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:18.279 we're going against each other, which usually I would see them all attacking the 175 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:24.200 other side, which was rare I think for that group in particular, because 176 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:28.960 it's like such a blind loyalty usually for them. It was amazing. Actually, 177 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:33.039 I thought it was really really cute the interactions between like Garcela and Sudden, 178 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:35.679 where there were such besties. They were just like giving each other the 179 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:41.320 eyes throughout the whole thing, like god, oh my god. It was 180 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:45.679 like so cute and like relatable and like they're real friends because they're just like, 181 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:46.840 is no one else salking seeing this? Is no one else going to 182 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:52.159 call us out? And like you can just like read from their body language, 183 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:54.120 like they didn't even have to say anything, but just their look was 184 00:14:54.200 --> 00:15:00.840 like they're like there's no point that. Yeah, Like they did look a 185 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:05.720 little dejected, honestly, Yeah, I mean I do. Didn't blame them, 186 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:09.480 yeah, right, the season would have been like so boring and toxic 187 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.799 without them. They were trying to, I think, be against them, 188 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:18.039 but they like persevered and like rose above so much that like they made like 189 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:24.039 the world love them. Everyone looked so bad. They're the biggest fan favorites 190 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:28.320 right now, and I think it might be interesting knowing that they're such favor 191 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:35.679 fan favorites, like next season, how it's gonna change the dynamic, Like 192 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:41.519 if people are gonna like if the other four girls are going to be even 193 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:43.279 more angry at them, or if they're going to actually try and suck up 194 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:48.159 to them now because they know that they're the fan favorites. So there were 195 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:52.480 no announcements by Andy, I know. And Okay, also another thing that 196 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:56.879 I was waiting for the whole episode. Lisa came in the first episode of 197 00:15:56.879 --> 00:16:03.559 the Union with her like brown Manila envelope saying I got the receipts. Yeah, 198 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:07.320 but what they weren't pulled out? Where were these receipts that you were 199 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:12.480 going to like prove your point your phone? Yeah, but I mean you 200 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:17.320 print out something in that big envelope and you like wave it around, you 201 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:25.559 better be showing much inside. She always has props. I was disappointed by 202 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:29.679 that, and it made me like discredit her a little bit because I'm like, 203 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.919 are you just doing this for the dramatics of it and you don't actually 204 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:40.720 have like backing behind what you're saying. I did um love that. Garcia 205 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:44.840 was the only one who kept asking Kyle like, weren't you mad at Lisa? 206 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:48.159 Why aren't you mad at Lisa? And like nobody was like at all 207 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:52.919 like questioning that, and Kyle was just like every once, stay out of 208 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:56.399 it, Kathy, why are you mad at me? Like there's like so 209 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:03.120 much toxicity it's it's insane, and like she made it all about herself and 210 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:07.720 she was like I'm the one being blamed, and it's like, why can't 211 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:11.920 you just step aside for a second and just like stand up for your sister 212 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:17.480 for one second and be like, Okay, whatever happened, this is the 213 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:19.759 end of it. I don't want to hear anymore and yell at at Renna 214 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:25.160 and not at Cathy. She's taking it out on Cathy when she should be 215 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:30.000 taking it out on Renna. I was actually really sad for Kathy when she 216 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:33.160 was like I was only upset because I thought you set up this whole surprise 217 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:37.640 tasting for me and then like nobody care. Then it wasn't set up for 218 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:47.079 me, so like cute and like castle cute, Like yeah, she just 219 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:51.640 like of course it was all for me, no, and then she just 220 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:56.440 like got so mad. Yeah. I can like see like bits of Paris 221 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:03.160 and Kathy, Like I can see because that's totally something I feel like Paris 222 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:07.559 would say, Yeah, you know, um, I actually wish we had 223 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:11.880 this podcast when the Paris and Love show was on, because that was just 224 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:15.920 like seeing how like the sisterhood between like Paris and Nikki versus like Kathy and 225 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:21.079 her sisters. I feel that they should learn from Paris and Niki because they're 226 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:26.440 like, yeah, sister, Yeah, I really hope there's another season of 227 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.720 Paris in Love, like when they're like really moved in, living together, 228 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:34.440 like yeah, trying to babying. Yeah, that that'll be so good. 229 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:40.119 I'm so good. I hope they do that. And I could see for 230 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:42.440 Kyle how she feels, you know, hurt that like you know, the 231 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:48.160 Hilton sisters keep like obviously supporting their mom and liking these tweets and this and 232 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:52.000 that and going out and making statements, and I mean I would too. 233 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:55.559 They're bullying her mother, like and I would be like, hey, I 234 00:18:55.599 --> 00:19:00.440 would expect better from my aunt who was the show like ringleader, to like 235 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:04.519 defend my mom and like be on her side, begged her to come on 236 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:11.440 this show. Not you're like against her. That doesn't make any sense. 237 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:15.920 If my sister was better friends, was Lisa Renna over me, I would 238 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:21.039 be very disappointed. It's not even someone likable, like no, it's like 239 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:26.880 the worst person ever. It's like you choose this person's side to like, 240 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:29.680 and you choose not to be mad at this person, and you believe everything 241 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:33.720 she says, and like you're upset with me, Like, of course our 242 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:37.119 relationship is not going to be great. Yeah, And I think she's, 243 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:42.720 like I said before, she's done that with Kim as well. She showed 244 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:48.759 her treat She I think values her like place on the show and like her 245 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:52.799 friendships on the show more than her family, which is really sad, which 246 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:56.599 I think is the issue. And that's why she always has issues with the 247 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.359 family. You know, every season she cries about her relationship up with her 248 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:03.240 sisters and they're always broken and this and that, and she's like, the 249 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:07.359 show hurt my family, But like it's not the show, it's what you're 250 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.799 doing on the show. Yeah, if like other families go on shows and 251 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.240 they're fine, but like, if you keep like becoming friends with the people 252 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:19.119 that are horrible to your family, why would your family want to be around, 253 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:23.720 And like it doesn't make sense. Obviously they're going to be upset. 254 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:27.880 Exactly if I come on the show and like you beg me to come on 255 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:30.759 the show when you're like, awesome, we'll do it. Together, It'll 256 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.880 be so fun and then you like basically friends with my bully, Like, 257 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:38.960 no, we're done. And that's why I think Kathy said. She was 258 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:45.480 like, if there's not some firings happening on this show, I'm not coming 259 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:48.480 back. And you know what, I don't blame her if it's between Kathy 260 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:52.039 and Renna. I mean, I think we know who the fans want to 261 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:56.960 go. Yeah, the thing is well production and Andy. I feel like 262 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:07.119 there's some like easy alliance between Andy and Ranna. But yeah, we did 263 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:10.759 see a little bit this episode of him being a little bit fed up by 264 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:17.799 her. He was like enough enough when Rena was talking. But at the 265 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:22.119 same time, I just feel like she's kind of like a veteran of the 266 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:26.960 show at this point, and she she feels a villain role that the show 267 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:32.920 no one else will to that extent, And that's exactly like to be a 268 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:37.960 villain so good that everybody hates you, you know, every single fan pretty 269 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:41.359 much, you have to be good at it. If you are listening and 270 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:47.559 you actually like Ranna, let us know why. We'd love to know. 271 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:55.359 I feel like no one's gonna according to our polls and everything we've ever ever 272 00:21:55.759 --> 00:22:00.119 become empty. Yeah, I've never heard anyone anyone's say, you guys are 273 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:04.319 wrong, But like if they replaced right now with like l v P, 274 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:07.160 I would be so happy. Oh my god, I miss her so much. 275 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:11.960 She needs to come back. She's amazing. I miss her girls. 276 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:15.000 I need to bring her back. Yes, the show was so much classier 277 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:19.480 when she was on it. Yeah, she's the queen Bee of Also, 278 00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:25.119 I'm gonna say this, it's gonna come like off topic and kind of like 279 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:30.680 I guess from a more shallow like place of like viewing it. The houses 280 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:34.039 and the views and everything was a lot nice for a few years ago on 281 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:42.519 they've like steadily gone downhill. Yeah, like they don't actually live in Beverly 282 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:48.200 Hills, a lot of them or whatever. I don't even know all their 283 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:53.519 houses and events and everything just looks very like pedestrian and compared to what it 284 00:22:53.720 --> 00:22:57.759 was, Like, who doesn't miss Lisa vander Palm's gorgeous view when the pink 285 00:22:57.880 --> 00:23:07.599 roses everywhere in the parties and I'm extravagance of it all, like like basically 286 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.240 exactly like she was goals and you were like, okay, like this woman 287 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:15.920 is throwing down in the kitchen, putting, putting on a badass t's gorgeous, 288 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:18.960 her closets amazing. Everyone else's house. I know they're super expensive and 289 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:22.839 nice, but like they don't They're not anything I would like, you know, 290 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:25.400 like be like, oh my god, I would die to live in 291 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:32.799 that house. Kathy's house is probably close. Yeah, but because dynamic, 292 00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:37.640 I wonder what the dynamic would be like. If Kathy and Lisa were on 293 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:44.000 the show together. Well, they were friends way back. Yeah, I 294 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:52.519 don't know if I don't know because I would hope Kyle. Yeah, but 295 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:57.799 like I don't start but when a Lisa was friends with Kathy and Rick, 296 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:02.000 even like in the big getting seasons of the show, she was still friends 297 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:04.839 with them when they want to be talking to Kyle. Yeah, so maybe 298 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:11.000 they are still friends. I mean, so apparently Kathy and Kyle aren't really 299 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:15.240 talking. Said that the episode at the end of the episode that m Bravo 300 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:18.960 con was like the first time that they've interacted with each other. Yeah, 301 00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:25.519 it's actually really sad, pretty indicative of the relationship with a work event is 302 00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:29.359 like the one time that they're talking to each other. It's actually super heartbreaking 303 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:33.680 because they always get into these like you know, fights around the times of 304 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.759 like huge milestone like events for their families, so it's like, why can 305 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:42.640 you not put that aside and be there for each other's families. I don't 306 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:48.000 know, Like this weekend, they had a baby shower for one of Kim's 307 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:52.519 daughters, right Brooke, I think on social media, so they both go. 308 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:56.200 No, so Kathy was there with like Paris and Nikki and all of 309 00:24:56.599 --> 00:25:02.279 Kyle's daughters were there, but adding Kyle and the pictures, So I'm not 310 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:10.559 sure she went, but I would assume not. Yeah, I mean the 311 00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:17.680 whole And then Fara's wedding is coming up, right, so we'll see what 312 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:22.319 happens with that if Kathy shows up. I mean, I feel like a 313 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:27.039 wedding if you don't show up to it is kind of like almost like a 314 00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:30.720 final nail in the coffin when well it doesn't show up, you know what 315 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:37.440 I mean. They uninvited or didn't invite Kyle to Nikki's wedding though she wasn't 316 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.839 there. Oh yeah, because they were. They but that I feel like 317 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:48.359 their relationship like back was really bad and now now they've made it better, 318 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:55.279 and now I think it's going back in reverse, So hopefully it doesn't go. 319 00:25:55.680 --> 00:26:00.200 I can't wait to see when the announcements are for a new season because 320 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:04.640 I'm dying to know who's coming back and who's not. Obviously, everyone has 321 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:08.960 so many opinions. Just give us the tea, Andy, like, what 322 00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:17.119 are you waiting for? Rennais saying TMZ called? Or after aspect, oh 323 00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:21.480 is she on speed dial? There? They're like, oh girl, how 324 00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:23.240 did she think that would be like a good thing to say? At the 325 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.440 reunion? She's like, they already knew, did they know because they texted 326 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:33.319 them they were returning your call, you left a message and your number. 327 00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:37.960 Yeah. I mean they were at the club with a lot of people, 328 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:42.319 but still, but how many of those people have TMZ on speed dial? 329 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:48.960 Exactly? It was really heartbreaking to watch Kyle breakdown at the end and they'll 330 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:52.599 read arms and not be able to take a shot. It was sad, 331 00:26:53.359 --> 00:27:00.400 so very sad. It's a very season. It was like the juxtaposition um 332 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:04.960 I think it was Kathy um garcelon Sutton like taking a picture like a happy 333 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:08.039 little picture at the end, and Kyle was like crying. It was like 334 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:15.480 so sad to see them to different worlds basically there was no resolution for her, 335 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.680 and I can see how she was asking Kathy for one and Kathy was 336 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.200 like, I'm not doing this on TV basically, but like Cathy was like 337 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:26.960 mad at her for not knowing why she was not. I didn't get that. 338 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:34.039 Yeah, I mean, there's clearly so many complexities to their relationship that 339 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:38.119 I feel like, like I said before, reality Reality TV is going to 340 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:42.079 be like one of the hardest ways for it to play out because I just 341 00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:47.359 feel like there's so much history that we won't even ever be able to understand 342 00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:52.519 between them. That's true, on the other hand, compared to like Real 343 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.400 Housewives of Salt Lake City, where these women don't have a lot of history 344 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:00.480 with each other, it's very refreshing. But no, some of them actually 345 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.720 do, like Meredith and um Lisa have ten years. But I feel like 346 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.880 ten years is not like it's like, you know, not like a lifetime 347 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:15.519 of like toxic fights, and like Lisa and Angie Harrington have twenty years together. 348 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.759 That's a long time. Yeah, it is, And that's weird how 349 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:23.240 that friendship blew up. Honestly, I was dying that Lisa was like, 350 00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:30.440 it's we've been friends for ten years and Meredith won't forgive me that I like 351 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:37.200 trashed her family and called her horror and then and then Angie doing it for 352 00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:42.119 twenty years. She's like, Okay, game over, We're done. Okay, 353 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:47.119 what do we think Angie's deal is? Is she's just trying to shoot 354 00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:52.960 to Stir up to be on the show finally, because she's always involved in 355 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.880 everything, but she's not been on the show. Okay, so I think 356 00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.839 she is trying to ship stir for sure. And she's definitely like super thirsty. 357 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.759 I mean like her husband is making a gene show. Suppose page like 358 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:10.319 that is what sus sketchy behavior you definitely, And like the way her eyes 359 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:14.160 light up. Also when she's on camera, like she's trying a little bit 360 00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:17.359 too hard. I feel like I get like weird vibes from her, just 361 00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:22.480 like all in all, But um, what I was gonna say is um, 362 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:29.799 Angie, she I think with Whitney like she I don't actually think she 363 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.720 said what Whitney was saying to the extent that Whitney was saying, because when 364 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:38.319 Whitney confronted her, she was like, oh, you said Lisa just dated 365 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:45.720 this guy before versus Whitney before had told us that it was the glose for 366 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:52.200 jazz tickets. So like, as I thought, Whitney flied it. Yeah, 367 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:57.720 she does with anything. And honestly this episode actually like I was trying 368 00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:02.400 to find my simple TI for Whitney because I was very hard on her, 369 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:07.119 like last episode, the last few episodes, and I could not find it. 370 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.640 No, I tried. It's not very likable, I must say. 371 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:15.200 No, Like I get that she's going through a terrible trauma and like, 372 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.680 you know, we'll never understand that, and like I get it, but 373 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:22.759 like she's taking it out on the wrong people and she doesn't know how to 374 00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.480 deal with it properly, Like she needs real help. She needs to sub 375 00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.920 conflating these two issues between her and Heather and her abuse. Those are not 376 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:36.279 exactly Heather did not abuse her. How is this all other? Yeah, 377 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:37.960 Like I'm confused. She's like, oh, it felt exactly like when I 378 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:42.119 was abused, I was silenced. Um, okay, well how is that 379 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:48.839 Hell's responsibility? It's not. She's just like, gets you drunk. I 380 00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.759 feel like it doesn't remember, like what happened. I think that's what happened 381 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.960 at the sports game. She was like, I got really up and then 382 00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:02.200 created these like memories in her mind, and I create memories to when I'm 383 00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:06.119 blackout. I'm just not starting fights over them, like, hey, maybe 384 00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:10.599 I'm wrong. We're just texting the group Chap being like, what the hell 385 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:15.400 did I say? Exactly? But she's like, you know, it's a 386 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.319 lot to put on someone, the whole abused thing, the whole I'm feeling 387 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.559 this way, to your responsibility to make me feel this way. It is 388 00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.119 a lot to put on someone. It's irresponsible and it's honestly not fair. 389 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.839 Yeah. No, it's the fact that she's like doubling down on it too 390 00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:37.039 after like talking to Angie and hearing like Angie being like I never said that, 391 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:42.920 and like you just can't admit it. Yeah, she will never admit 392 00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:48.079 things. Like she's so just damaged in like a very sad way, but 393 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.319 like she needs to stop taking it out on the friendships. Yeah, I 394 00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:56.799 mean maybe after leaving she's closing this Mormon church chapter, maybe that will help 395 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:01.880 her if she gets some real there sort of relief, Phil, some sort 396 00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:09.200 of relief, Hill, I need a drinking game. Every time she says 397 00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:16.039 hell or Phil, he'll be as black is. Yeah, I won't be 398 00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:21.039 able to recap the episode. No, He'll be like I think she said 399 00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.519 this, and I'll be like, she never said that, baby witness it 400 00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:30.200 exactly. But I'm a hundred percent team Heather. Because Heather was just you 401 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:34.240 know, making every complete sense. She was like, this never happened. 402 00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.160 She even went to Angie and she was like, Hey, did this ever 403 00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:45.240 happens? I just I mean, yeah, as much as Andree probably would 404 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.880 have wanted it to happen, because like then she would get even more of 405 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.640 a storyline. And she was like mortified. She was like, it's a 406 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:58.960 business environment that would never utter those words. Yeah, like Lisa would do 407 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:04.920 her ass, which I believe. Yeah, Like I really don't think Lisa 408 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:08.319 would take too long to see someone for defamation of character or whatever for those 409 00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:14.039 kind of rumors in a business setting, it's like obviously damaging to her reputation. 410 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:22.720 Yeah, Whitney needs to put down the tequila and look inward and heavy 411 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:29.799 journal. I don't know, focus on like that, reconnecting to your brother 412 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:34.319 and sister and like take care of your children. Just stop trying to meddle 413 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:39.400 in everything. Yeah, everybody and drama. Lisa was saying how she felt 414 00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:44.160 like close to Whitney because like, you know, what did you say a 415 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.680 bad truth is better than a good lie? But like what if it wasn't 416 00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:50.480 a bad truth, what if it's like no truth at all? Yeah, 417 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:58.119 I found that whole like friendship because like, yeah, she was the one 418 00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.680 who like started and called us all this ship like and when he didn't bring 419 00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:06.359 this up like this, none of this would have happened. So and she 420 00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:12.360 never believed award Whitney said last season, So like this season is so different, 421 00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:19.320 Like I did not have that pairing on my bingo card, not at 422 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:23.800 all, And honestly I don't like it. Yeah, No, Lisa's iconic, 423 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:29.760 so she's on her Like I like her better when she's on her own. 424 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:35.639 I love how beautiful and chic they look when they go skiing, because 425 00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:39.719 I could never, oh my god, I would be fully like Gan on 426 00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:44.400 the Bunny Hell, oh my god. Yeah same. But also like she's 427 00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.719 wearing spanks and like you know, I mean even if the other women aren't, 428 00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:51.760 they all look amazing, Like I could never look that good doing a 429 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:55.400 winter activity, Like that's amazing. And I was laughing in like in one 430 00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:59.400 part of the episode when they were doing an outside walk and Math is like 431 00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.280 it's so beauty, a full out I'm like, I'm not are you kidding? 432 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.440 How is this beautiful? It looks freezing? No, I like like 433 00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:15.079 a winter like walk, but the whole not for me. Yeah, it 434 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:19.960 never ends for them, Like a lot of people love that vibe. I 435 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.199 guess. I mean, if you live there, you have to write, 436 00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:28.239 but every activity is always like skiing or like some sort of snowy activity. 437 00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.719 Yeah, and they made it looks fun. It did look so beautiful, 438 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:37.440 Like yeah, I was just dying at the like juxtaposition of this episode, 439 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:43.920 like they're in this beautiful glass thing like with mountain views and champagne and charcouterie 440 00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.519 and like last episode in Arizona we had them at some like college bar bar. 441 00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.440 What is happening with this budget? Like what happened last episode? And 442 00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:59.360 planned this? Was it? Whitney? Yeah? Who planned this dinner doesn't 443 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:05.599 add up? Um. Another thing about Whitney I was like so shocked about 444 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:10.199 was like I just didn't realize how hard it was to leave the Mormon Church 445 00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:16.320 like that, like having a having to have it notarized, and then like 446 00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:21.239 I didn't realize that they take ten percent of your income, Like absolutely not, 447 00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:24.239 what are that your your manager is not already hanging enough taxes? I 448 00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:32.480 don't need absolutely not, like would never um. But it is interesting how 449 00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:37.960 much you're like getting to know about the Mormon Church, right, And I 450 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.360 mean I follow a lot of like Mormon influencers who are not on the show, 451 00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:45.920 and I know it's like the Mormon TikTok is like huge, and it's 452 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:49.159 like always super interesting to me because it's not something I see every day, 453 00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.440 and like where I live, there aren't a lot of Mormons or any so, 454 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:58.159 like it's very very interesting to me how they get down. I mean 455 00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:04.960 there's that whole like swinger Mormon group on TikTok and then but then there's like 456 00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:10.400 the ones that I feel like her super like wholesome and yeah, exactly like 457 00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:15.039 Rachel parself love her, Oh my god, I love her, like her 458 00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.920 family so cute, her homeless, stunning. And I remember when before the 459 00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:21.280 show came out, they were like doing she was doing a Q and A 460 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.760 on Instagram and people were like, oh, would you join Wheelhouse as of 461 00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:30.000 Salt Lake City flashed it. Yeah, she was like absolutely not. I 462 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.559 have thoughts about these women, Yeah, I think after the first episode, 463 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:37.760 I remember her saying like, this is not what real Mormon women do, 464 00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:43.880 Like, well, I mean, like definitely not, because half these women 465 00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.440 are trying to leave. I don't even know if this is what non Mormon 466 00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:52.360 women do. Yeah, like nobody does this. It's amazing on a whole 467 00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:57.079 different level. And I can see how, like if that was my culture 468 00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.960 they were portraying, I would be like, I don't like this. What 469 00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:06.679 is happening here? Yeah, but it is fun to watch just because like 470 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:09.639 every city has such a different vibe, and like, this is a vibe 471 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:13.159 I would never sign up before, just because it's cold and I hate the 472 00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.480 cold, and like they're just rocking it and looking fabulous, Like everyone's hair 473 00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:21.079 is like all blown out and long and gorgeous as their skiing, and I'm 474 00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:27.039 like, what, you don't have the humidity to ruin it? Humidity, 475 00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.920 girl, I feel like I would get tangled in my skis. I would 476 00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:35.039 just be done. I was like, all of this looks so fabulous and 477 00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.000 I couldn't tell who was who that whole like skiing shrip. I could not 478 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.719 that. I was like, why is there like people here who look like 479 00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:46.159 Lisa? Everyone looks like Lisa and like and like hither too. I was 480 00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:52.519 like I was trying to replace Whitney by like inviting of her cousin, because 481 00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.840 what is happening? Why is this such a big roop? I can't focus 482 00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.920 on what's happening when all these new people come from. But I will say 483 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:07.559 I loved um the like switch from watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, because 484 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:13.440 I kind of have like stress while I'm watching that whole franchise, and then 485 00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:17.159 when you switch to Salt Lake City, I feel like it's just such a 486 00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:21.800 like lightness to it, you know what I mean? Oh my god, 487 00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:23.960 right, it was too draining at this point, That's what I'm saying. 488 00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:30.760 Like the length of the conflict is so refreshing for Salt Lake City because it 489 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:36.840 all seems so new and light compared to Beverly like that should goes deep in 490 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.519 Beverly Hills. Yeah, And it's like such a small town and like I 491 00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:43.360 mean you saw it, like I'm Salt Lake is as well. But like 492 00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:46.719 everyone after so many seasons off the show, so many people have come and 493 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:52.119 gone, and everyone's still kind of is around and it's friends and it's just 494 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.519 like the whole thing is just you know, it feels like a lot, 495 00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:59.079 which is partly why I like it. But this season was a lot. 496 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.039 There's like more like to bauchery. I feel like on Salt Lake City, 497 00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:07.679 which is just like fun to watch, it's just like theirs are they just 498 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.079 don't care, like on Beverly Hills. I think by this one, especially, 499 00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:13.599 like women really care what people think about them. They've got their like 500 00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:20.840 very media trained in comparison, were in Salt Waters basically yeah and there and 501 00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:23.079 obviously they live in Hollywood. They know how it works. Meanwhile, we're 502 00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:29.599 I feel like we're watching like middle aged college girls. It's like Jersey Shore 503 00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:34.280 meats Like, like, I love it. They don't care. They're just 504 00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:37.159 like you know, they get blackout, they were lingoide at work, they 505 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:40.280 do whatever the fun they want. Yeah, no, it's so entertaining. 506 00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:45.519 I'm so here for it. I actually really enjoyed this episode. Yeah, 507 00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:47.400 this was a good episode. Last one, like the last few were like 508 00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:52.320 a little dark. This one was just like it was lighter better. Yeah 509 00:40:52.400 --> 00:41:00.760 yeah, um speaking of um back to l A. I guess Wing Empire 510 00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:06.559 so we finished that. Yes, I love this season. Actually, I 511 00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.800 Initially I thought I wasn't gonna like it, but it turned out to be 512 00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:15.360 really good. I really really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed seeing things through 513 00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:23.800 Christine's eyes this season, and I really enjoyed Kane going like trying to really 514 00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:30.039 be a villain this season. Yeah, he like stirs, shut up, 515 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.480 and then once it comes back to him, he's just like wait, what, 516 00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:39.719 Like I don't like, like, I don't know if it's a roman 517 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:44.920 plays on the show or he's actually like that, because I mean I know 518 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:46.440 people that are friends with him in real life and like you know, they 519 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:51.239 love him, and I just like I don't know if that's how he is, 520 00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.960 because like he just seems so fake on the show and like such a 521 00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:00.639 ship disturb Yeah, for no reason, always starting shut up, and then 522 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.960 when it comes back to him, he hates confrontation. He dies, he 523 00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:09.840 makes excuses, and then he like tries to turn everyone against Christine or like 524 00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:15.800 the fact that he didn't invite Christine to his dinner. But yeah, that's 525 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.679 like the perfect word for him, petty exactly. And like I just felt 526 00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:24.800 bad because like Christine really didn't do anything to deserve this treaty, and she 527 00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:30.599 did nothing going to create a divide Even further, I think he wants her 528 00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:35.119 off the show because she's become like more of a fan favorite. She's awesome. 529 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:38.199 First of all, people knew her before the show, and people knew 530 00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:43.400 her because of social media, right, and she's in that whole like o 531 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:49.920 C social media bubble with like Layla Milawney and Casey Brown, that whole group, 532 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.639 and like, you know, I've always kind of known of her from 533 00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:54.519 that, and I thought it was like, if anything, she'd be the 534 00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:59.159 real heart too, but I guess she wasn't Hills, So whatever. Um, 535 00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.119 I wish it would Joe in the Well Housewives, honestly, I do. 536 00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:07.000 I think she'd be fabulous and way more fun, oh my god, 537 00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:10.880 like way better. But um, she's obviously is on a different show on 538 00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:15.239 a different network. So I feel like this show is getting like also kind 539 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:21.360 of toxic for no reason. Yeah. No, they just bully each other, 540 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:29.360 and then like the whole toxicity with like Kim and Kevin, like she 541 00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:32.800 just wanted to like string him along and like it was like, oh, 542 00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:37.559 yeah, you're not my type, Okay, whatever, that's fine, typical 543 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:42.920 Yeah, and then as soon as he brings his girl over. She's so 544 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:47.119 jealous, like can't stand it, and like, I don't know, I 545 00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:51.280 just feel like she needs to go to therapy, not a just a Pikey 546 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:57.920 healer. Because girl was jealous. She was really really mean to Kevin. 547 00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.159 I don't I think she did him dirty. I don't think she was fair 548 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.360 to She did not say right away she wasn't interested. She was stringing him 549 00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.880 along. She would him take a lie detector test. She made him feel 550 00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:10.719 like a piece of ship so many times, and it just kind of not 551 00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.239 She would say she's going on a date and then ghost him, like it's 552 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:21.960 so confusing to him, like it's it's like fucked up for her to string 553 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:27.039 him along and then be like okay. Also not by everything, and then 554 00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:30.480 the fact that she was like if I wanted him, I could get him. 555 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:31.679 I was so grossed up by that. I'm like, okay, I'm 556 00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:36.159 like these like he's been in love with this girl forever, Like yeah, 557 00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.079 they had they had like the cutest chemistry ever. I really hope I love 558 00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:45.320 them on she's so cute. I apparently they're still together. So I'm very 559 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:50.519 hopeful that he will grow up and you know, she'll help him be the 560 00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.719 man he's meant to be. They seem super super key. Stop just taking 561 00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:59.840 off his shirt and like have some substance, yeah, and also have some 562 00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:06.039 self respect and like, you know, don't act necessarily like a little puppy 563 00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:09.679 for all these like other real people, yeah, to like you know, 564 00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:16.679 do charity for Like, it's weird the whole when he almost like dumbs himself 565 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:22.320 down, like when he's around them because he's like, like you said, 566 00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:27.719 like they're his little they're little puppy and like he's like whatever you guys say 567 00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:31.639 kind of thing, like like he has to be very non threatening, right, 568 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:37.719 Yeah. But like even when he went with um Christine to Paris, 569 00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.880 which I thought was like so cute, I'm like, I feel like he 570 00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:47.199 could have taken more initiative and like try try to like further his career in 571 00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:52.079 fashion and modeling being there, he was just kind of like hiding behind her 572 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:57.400 the whole time, which shows like a little bit of immaturity. Still in 573 00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.840 that sense, I think I do think his career would benefit a lot more 574 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:06.159 if he was more proactive and more confident and more would go get her, 575 00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:09.199 you know, yeah, because that would have been like the perfect opportunity to 576 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:15.199 like go away from the like l a commercial marketing and go into like Paris 577 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:22.000 Milan, like runaway stuff. But do you think he has the drive for 578 00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:28.480 that? Yeah, doesn't seem too. Do you think, um, it 579 00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:34.480 was wrong of him to date the raiky healer? I do. I think 580 00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:42.159 he should have at least like asked beforehand, because like she was more than 581 00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.639 just like the raiky girl that just like puts her hands on top of you 582 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:51.599 or whatever they do. Um, she was actually like talking about her life 583 00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:58.039 and treating them more like a real therapist. So I think given their history 584 00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:00.599 and the fact that like personal inform asian is being shared, I feel like 585 00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:07.920 a client patient boundary was overstepped. But do you not think it was also 586 00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:12.280 more on the racky healer not to go with this dude? No, I 587 00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:15.239 think they're both in the wrong. Like I was watching this whole thing and 588 00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:19.679 nobody was like saying anything about the ricky Healer, and then everyone was talking 589 00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:23.079 about Kevin making a piece of shit, and I'm like, but she's her 590 00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:30.800 patient, her responsibility. She's the one like opening up about this whole Kevin 591 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:31.880 thing to her and like talking to her. And then she goes, oh, 592 00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:37.480 now I'm gonna go out with Kevin, Like no, that's like raised 593 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.880 red flags. But I think they're both in the wrong. I just think 594 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:46.000 she wanted to be on the show. Honestly, she wanted to be a 595 00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:51.119 character, got her little she was like, hey, I'm not just a 596 00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:57.800 reicky healer and you can hide or like she was just advertising her business. 597 00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.199 I thought, odd, yeah, exactly. I thought, um, Christine's 598 00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:07.119 dinner was very very sweet to invite everyone and to like make it all all 599 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:12.559 of branch themed. So they didn't show it, but I saw that she 600 00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.920 posted on Instagram and she said like that whole intense flower arrangement, which I 601 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.760 thought it was a little much because nobody could see each other, but it 602 00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:27.079 was all made with like all of branches and through like we've through and yeah, 603 00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:29.679 and then she said the whole menu, it was all of them, 604 00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:35.320 and then like the invitations were like olive oil cakes, like in a little 605 00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:37.199 box. Like I thought it was so cute and like, you know, 606 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:42.679 she was really trying. Yeah, that's so nice, and nobody really gave 607 00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:46.320 it. Honestly, I think she's so sweet. Nobody gave me. They 608 00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:51.559 just like are always trying to tear her down no matter what, like she'll 609 00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.760 no matter what she does, it's always going to be seen somehow in a 610 00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:59.239 negative like, oh she does this like over the top party, like she's 611 00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:02.360 trying too hard, they'll say, And so I'm like, yeah, she's 612 00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:07.320 making an effort, fabulous or being whatever. I do think there's like a 613 00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:14.880 group jealousy towards her, and like I don't know why. I think like 614 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:21.679 Kane, Kelly and Kim have this like alliance and it's like sad to see 615 00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:27.000 that divide. It's true, but also Kim is kind of like okay terms 616 00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:30.719 with Christine. She's like trying to play the both sides, both sides. 617 00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:37.159 Yeah, as we see, she's good at that because she's a gemini. 618 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:45.400 I don't know, girl is toxic. I think she's so beautiful. I 619 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:49.079 think she should just like Dat one of the gorgeous actors she keeps bringing around. 620 00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:53.920 Yeah, I stop playing with this like little boys emotions. I actually 621 00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:58.320 don't think she's probably not ready for a real relationship, and there's a lot 622 00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.960 of healing that she still has to do, as we've seen previous seasons. 623 00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:07.440 So it's nice of her to address that and to face it. Yeah, 624 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:14.119 no, she I like Kevin and her just like, I really hope next 625 00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:19.119 season nothing happens between them. They don't get back together because they're just like 626 00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:22.199 not men for each other, and I hope she doesn't try and like their 627 00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:30.880 whole horrible perform Yeah, like I've never seen two people so bad like together, 628 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:37.639 and maybe Kelly and Andrew. Oh yeah, I mean Kevin did like 629 00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:42.400 Kelly the first season, like he's just stopped trying to date within the group. 630 00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.000 Yeah, I think he does like push it a little too far. 631 00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:53.000 Yeah, he's a little bit aggressive about it. But yeah, they seem 632 00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:55.719 like a good match, you know what it is. I feel like they 633 00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.199 know him really well, and as friends, they feel like he doesn't have 634 00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:02.519 what they need, Like he doesn't offer as much as like they would want 635 00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:07.519 in a partner because he's like a man child, so they're like why would 636 00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:10.960 I be into But then they like the attention because he's hot. I think 637 00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:17.440 it's like they're all very like superficial because he has made it. They're like 638 00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:22.239 not giving him the time of day exactly. Even like when they were introducing 639 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:23.800 like you know, like this guy to Kelly and they were like, what 640 00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:25.559 do you do, how much money do you have? What kind of car 641 00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:30.559 do you have? And I'm just like, who talks this much about money? 642 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:35.199 That's crazy. Like when you first meet someone, it's like it's like 643 00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:42.559 I know they say that it's in their culture. So it's very interesting to 644 00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:46.159 like, I guess watch that because it's so different from any other show and 645 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:52.320 no one else really tryin that's like very flashy and like it's giving my super 646 00:51:52.360 --> 00:52:01.320 sweet sixteen. Yeah, that show was iconic. I'm amazing, But this 647 00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:06.039 is basically every episode is that. I'm like, what is happening? Like 648 00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:08.360 this is this much? This is that much? Like about this, It's 649 00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:15.079 like it does give me the lifestyle porn though that Yeah, Beverly Hills, 650 00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:21.199 Yeah, do not always give me. They're just not trying to get robbed 651 00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:29.039 anymore. Yeah, it's not really working that one. Clearly, Um Jamie, 652 00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:37.480 oh my god, she bothers me so much. She clearly so jealous 653 00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:40.840 of Christine, like the comments she was making at the Paris Fashion show being 654 00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:49.119 like I can't believe she's a client and I'm an influencer. Yeah, I 655 00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:53.400 was like, that's not valued by the they love that. I think she's 656 00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:57.760 v I p that's beautiful. Good for her. Do you know how much 657 00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:01.840 like Channel ready to where you have to buy to like to be hundreds of 658 00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:07.159 thousands of dollars. Yeah, like obviously she buys her high jewelry and stuff 659 00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:09.480 like come on, So I feel like that is a lot of jealousy, 660 00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:14.519 like yeah, being an influencer of school, Like you're technically self made now 661 00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:19.280 apparently, so she says. But still we'll take that with a grain of 662 00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.639 salt. Yeah, she said she was only self made for her like work 663 00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:30.599 expenses, which act like a shady wave of saying she's not really made. 664 00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:35.719 I feel like she was really chill and quiet the first season, and now 665 00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:43.599 she's just like being a mean girl, and it's just like why she's so 666 00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:50.320 jealous of Christine and she doesn't really have like a storyline because she doesn't really 667 00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:54.719 she doesn't. He's kind of there. Yeah, she doesn't bring anything to 668 00:53:54.760 --> 00:54:00.880 the show, and her face is always so unpleasant, like she's all she's 669 00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:04.840 always looking so angry and like discontent. I don't know she bothers me, 670 00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:09.440 honestly. Yeah, it honestly feels like she doesn't bring anything. Some vintage 671 00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:15.199 fashion, I say, Santash, We got it. This is Vintish Galleano. 672 00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:20.920 Yeah, we know. I mean I love that Ails had a passionate 673 00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:27.400 about fashion, and that's great for your influencing career. But I mean nobody 674 00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:35.159 asked save it for your Instagram page, girly exactly. Yeah, so this 675 00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:40.840 season was just to know it was forgettable. I'd say the biggest takeaways that 676 00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:46.320 Christina is awesome, her friendship with Kevin's cute. Kevin's relationship is cute, 677 00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:52.519 and that's about it. I wouldn't say it's forgettable. I would say I 678 00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:55.760 enjoyed watching it. It was just like a pleasant watch, but it wasn't 679 00:54:55.800 --> 00:55:01.239 like the crazy drama that I thought I was going to get from it. 680 00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:07.719 I felt like everyone was being very subdued and that wasn't really bringing it, 681 00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:10.920 and I think Caine was trying. So that's why it was jarring in comparison 682 00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:15.400 to like how everyone else was trying not to bring it. Apparently, like 683 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:19.800 Cain like brought on like most of the people on the show, like he's 684 00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:24.519 kind of like the common link between all exactly. Yeah. Yeah, he's 685 00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:31.800 like friends with everyone, so obviously, like he's trying really hard to keep 686 00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:37.760 it lasting and keeping up drama. Drama. Yeah, he's like bringing the 687 00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:43.639 drama because someone else's I can see that. Actually that's a responsible like you 688 00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:51.840 know co star. Mm hmm. Okay, So before to Yes, my 689 00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:55.039 favorite of all of these shows, Love is Blind. I love that ship. 690 00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:00.440 Oh my god, I'm so excited for Love we got it up. 691 00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:08.679 Yes, super excited with the cast of course. Yes, I like to 692 00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:15.679 pretend I'm on the show. I've watched US season. I've watched this like 693 00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:19.559 show so many times, and every single time, I'm like, wait, 694 00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:24.519 I can't understand how these people are like getting married and engaged in two weeks 695 00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:28.000 and they haven't seen each other, Like it just blows my mind. Every 696 00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:34.960 single time. I'll never like understand. I will say, me and my 697 00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:38.599 man basically the side of we're getting married on our first date. So this 698 00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:45.519 was like if anyone wouldn't understand, it's us because like we've experienced it obviously 699 00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:47.400 not on the show. It was like a real date, but still it 700 00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:50.559 was like the same kind of thing where we're like, okay, like we're 701 00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:52.320 definitely getting married first date, that's it done. And we've been like you 702 00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:58.039 know, inseparable since and nothing has changed, and like it wasn't like as 703 00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:02.719 many I guess difficulties. But also we weren't always hanging out with our exes, 704 00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:07.639 and you were able to see each other, and like I would assume 705 00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:14.039 your conversation was like going a little bit further than like I like shuk Chuka. 706 00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:17.400 Oh, I also like shuk Chuka. Let's get dot com from my 707 00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:24.599 favorite couple. It's my favorite couple too. But at the beginning, I 708 00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:28.960 was just like, really, that's what's you're like? First of all, 709 00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:32.480 done when he said his favorite Boduka almost fell off the couch. I was 710 00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:38.440 excuse me. It was like what, I did not expect this. No, 711 00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:43.320 I didn't know a man and she did not either, so that's why 712 00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:46.280 she was like, oh okay, but she didn't even know what he looked 713 00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:51.119 like. So no, but his voice, his accent, like everything was 714 00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:54.639 just funny and like you know, like he's such a like cowboy and it's 715 00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:59.039 like adorable. And I do think they're super cute together. I think she's 716 00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:02.400 gorgeous, like yeah, she's done it donning. I think they're like the 717 00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:06.760 one couple I'm rooting for the most I know. I feel like they're the 718 00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:10.480 most like normal and they're just like have the least like you know, issues 719 00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:15.840 and the least like toxic relationship. It was, um, what was I 720 00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:19.760 going to say? Like I like them, and I really really really liked 721 00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:23.559 um Matt and Colleen the Ballerina. I feel like they really match each other. 722 00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:28.119 I hope they work it out. I hope they're able to like stay 723 00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:31.159 together because um, they I feel like they like look so good together, 724 00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:37.519 almost like brother and sister. They have like the same vibe. They're both 725 00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:44.679 like it's superficial and like shallow in their relationships. So mad is such a 726 00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:52.559 sweetheart, is a sweetheart, but my heart, Like I feel about her, 727 00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:57.719 like he was just like all about like looks and stuff, and she's 728 00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:01.559 like obviously, as she says her self, fairy shallow. So I feel 729 00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:07.920 like they kind of like matching there, like immatureness in their relationship a little 730 00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:14.280 bit. He's definitely more mature than she is. But I feel like I 731 00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:20.079 think she's going to go and flirt with Cole based on what I've seen her, 732 00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:23.679 like saying that she's attracted to him. Okay, that was attracted to 733 00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:28.440 her. That was not cool. That whole conversation was not cool. Okay, 734 00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:31.239 you cannot go and sit and tell someone when you're with someone else, 735 00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:35.199 engaged to someone else, that's like, oh, in the real world, 736 00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:37.360 if you bought me a drink, I wouldn't say no, like no. 737 00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:42.400 The same with partise with Nancy. I was, oh, my god, 738 00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:47.199 get me started. I wanted to kill him with that conversation when he's like 739 00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:52.559 we're both like the heads looking in the room, like who I like? 740 00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:57.920 I said that I disagree first of all, and then he he had the 741 00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:01.400 audacity to be like, oh, you know, you're like happy that I'm 742 01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:06.559 being honest though, right, It's like she was in tears and she's like 743 01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:14.199 right, My mind was blown. How someone could think that's okay all of 744 01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:15.880 that. Um, I was so furious, and you know, and she 745 01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:21.440 just kept sitting there and she never says anything, and she never like calls 746 01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:24.039 him out, and it's so sad because she's such a catch and I think 747 01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:29.079 she's she's so cute and he's literally sitting there and he's like, hey, 748 01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:31.119 you're like basically the ugly one. But it's okay because like I love your 749 01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:36.639 personality, Like that's what I would be, like, Okay, bye, 750 01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:40.400 I'm gonna go find someone else exactly like it was like, you know, 751 01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:44.880 I love that Raven wasn't even entertaining his ship. She was like me, 752 01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:52.719 I'm good. They those two actually deserve each other the most because they're like 753 01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:59.320 the most superficial people ever. I thought it was really funny when she was 754 01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:02.320 doing jumping acts when he was pouring his heart out and that was amazing. 755 01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:07.599 Girl was like checking her fitbit and she didn't get enough enough calories for the 756 01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:10.400 day, and she was like, I gotta do a few more jumping jazz. 757 01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:15.960 Like yeah, she's stunning, but I feel like she needs someone to 758 01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:20.239 make her a bit deeper. And like, you know, let's self absorbed 759 01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:23.079 and he needs to grow up. He's definitely too young to be on the 760 01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:27.760 show. I'll tell you that. Oh his age is definitely showing. He's 761 01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:29.880 like, oh, I'm so ma sure I'm ready for kids. No, 762 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:35.159 you're not, You're not. Like that whole conversation was so rude. It 763 01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:37.360 made my blood boil. I don't know how she didn't like slap him in 764 01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:40.199 the face. I don't know like how she walked out. It was just 765 01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:44.320 like if someone said that to me. He The whole thing was a backhand 766 01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:49.039 and compliment, and then he kept staring at Raven every time. He's just 767 01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:52.679 like her. Oh my god. The editors of the show did her by 768 01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:59.559 having the editor where she's just like eating the entire time, Like wow, 769 01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:05.760 that was amazing. She's eating her like bacon wrapped scallops. She's like living 770 01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:10.039 her best life. I mean she should not have. I mean it's wild 771 01:02:10.079 --> 01:02:15.280 to me that the first night together she starts going on and on about the 772 01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:20.079 giants. God, that was not okay. I'm like, okay, this 773 01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:22.599 is like, oh my god, please stop too much information. Please. 774 01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:24.280 You guys are in the bath together, Like what is going on? I'm 775 01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:29.400 so so disgusting, And he would just like kissed her to shut her up 776 01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:34.440 so you could see what was going on behind his eyes. She was like, 777 01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.840 oh no, I've made a huge mistake. That is not a conversation 778 01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:39.360 you have on the first night. No, no, no, save it 779 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:45.280 for like ten years down the room maybe never, maybe never, Like this 780 01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:49.880 is not necessary. Like I don't know what she was thinking. Honestly, 781 01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:53.119 I think she was maybe so nervous and like uncomfortable and just like k excited 782 01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:58.559 that like she was like word vomiting. People do that a lot. I 783 01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:02.159 was getting like a second and embarrassment. I was cringing, I was turning 784 01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:05.480 red. I was like, oh my god, how is this happening? 785 01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:10.719 Other than that second time in the bath. Other than that, she was 786 01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:15.400 great. Yeah. No, she was so like when I at the beginning 787 01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:19.480 in the pods, like she was the one that I was rooting for me 788 01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:23.679 too, because she was so cute and so sweet. Yeah. I loved 789 01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:29.880 her and then um my heart went out for her and Matt who was like, 790 01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:34.719 oh, I married my high school sweetheart who then got pregnant by someone 791 01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:37.760 else. I was like, excuse me, what's going on here? Yeah? 792 01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:40.159 I was like, that's so sad. I was like, he's so 793 01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:44.280 genuine, so sweet, and he's like, don't hurt me. And I 794 01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:49.400 just hope Colleen does not hurt because what she did with Cole already wasn't cool. 795 01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:54.840 No, I don't trust her. She's why she's on the show, 796 01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:59.719 Like, why do you if you say you don't want a relationship, that's 797 01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:02.199 series is why are you on a show about getting married in two weeks? 798 01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:13.239 To be an influencer? Obviously, to get yeah stupid, you can tell 799 01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:19.000 who's there to get verifying and who's there actually find love. But she has 800 01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:24.480 a very successful career as a ballet dancer. If you didn't know so well, 801 01:04:24.519 --> 01:04:27.559 if I didn't know, she definitely made it obvious. And she also 802 01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:31.880 let everyone know that she's very flexible in bed. It just like reaked of 803 01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:36.199 her insecurity, showing like, let me just try and signal that I'm like 804 01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:43.400 fit and like hot in shape and flexible so that you don't have to realize 805 01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:47.079 that my personality is ship. Just being a ballet dancer is apparently my whole 806 01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:50.199 personality. It is, And then all the guys are like, oh my 807 01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:55.239 god, oh my god, it's like relaxed. You're on a blind dating 808 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:59.559 show, Like if you wanted looks, you'd go on like too hot to 809 01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:02.000 handle or some ship, even none of them are probably hot enough to get 810 01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:14.880 on it. As much as Martiz thinks he is dying, Um is that 811 01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:19.440 everyone? No? Well, I mean I love sk I think sk is 812 01:05:19.480 --> 01:05:25.039 so sweet. Oh well is so cute, But he needs to realize that, 813 01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:30.800 like that relationship is just not good. Probably getting played. Yeah, 814 01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:34.480 like if the first night after you guys get engaged and you're like spending the 815 01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:39.480 night together, you are on opposite sides of the bed. I think that's 816 01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:43.840 like a huge red flag. There's just no chemistry. No, And she's 817 01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:45.440 like, I don't touch I don't like to touch people. I don't like 818 01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:50.079 to touch anyone. And I'm like, mmmm, that's not something you can 819 01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:54.800 like change. It's either there, it's not. Well. She just like 820 01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:59.920 has a type right, like a gym, like meathead bro like the fit 821 01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:02.199 spill dude. And by the way, Bartis is not it because he doesn't 822 01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:06.360 even look that big. So I mean, I know that was her reaction. 823 01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:13.400 She said, Bartis here. I can't stand them anyway, see them 824 01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:23.360 between him and Coal, I mean he's worse Cole and yeah, I so 825 01:06:23.719 --> 01:06:29.239 okay. Weirdly, if they work out their communication issues, I actually see 826 01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:33.320 them working a little bit because he's just like playful, like puppy dog, 827 01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:38.960 and she's like very serious. So like their opposites can attract, I think, 828 01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:42.280 and like he'll bring out the more fun side of her. She can 829 01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:45.480 make him grow up a little bit, be a little bit more serious, 830 01:06:45.559 --> 01:06:48.599 get some furniture in his house. I don't know how I can wait their 831 01:06:48.639 --> 01:06:55.000 apartments. I can offer how you're a real estate agent and you don't have 832 01:06:55.239 --> 01:07:00.960 furniture, Like, isn't that also makes sense? You were her though, 833 01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:04.000 and you watch the show back, like the few episodes we've seen, would 834 01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:08.760 you want to be with someone who kept going up to literally every single person 835 01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:11.840 and saying I'm not physically into her, she's not really my type, but 836 01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:16.480 I love her. No. No, it's the same thing with like, 837 01:07:16.719 --> 01:07:20.480 I'm sorry, what are you thinking? What are you doing? She's gorgeous 838 01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:26.079 first of all, and it's so cute. I mean, she's a little 839 01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:28.480 insecure and passive aggressive. I'll give her that. She's a bit of a 840 01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:32.400 downer, yeah, but Cole is also kind of like a dick to her, 841 01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:35.719 like when he started chack off when she was taking on holding up and 842 01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:39.719 he was like, you look so different. I wash my god, Nony 843 01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:45.199 did not. That's not even funny. That would have been came over for 844 01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:50.519 me packing my bakes. You're you're done packing my makeup? I'm gone, 845 01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:58.679 see how I can't believe I wasted this makeup on this guy. This reminds 846 01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:00.320 me when I was younger. I would like every time I would like start 847 01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:03.119 sleeping over at a new boyfriend's house, I would always just wake up early 848 01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:09.280 and put on my makeup and pretend I just oh my god, oh this 849 01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:16.920 this frankly applied lip glass, this water profileliner I don't always like this happened 850 01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:24.640 perfectly and teased hair where it's just like a little bit messy. I felt 851 01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:27.319 for saying it because she was like that, do I really look different? 852 01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:30.720 Like he literally brought her confidence down from like a tent to like a negative 853 01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:34.479 five in like a second, and it just stayed down there, Johnning, 854 01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:40.359 and she looks an She's so beautiful. She literally looks the same with makeup. 855 01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:43.159 She's like, you know, like a bombshell. I saw some scenes 856 01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:45.720 from like the next season, next episode, and I was like, whoa. 857 01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:47.680 She was wearing some sort of corset thing and I was like, gorgeous. 858 01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:51.600 Yeah, Like she's so like, you know, obviously he knew she 859 01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:55.279 was going to be exotic and beautiful. I mean, her name is super 860 01:08:55.319 --> 01:09:00.319 exotic. And then he's like, my favorite my type is Colleen. Um, 861 01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:05.439 why I'm dying. I mean, clearly dating your type did not work 862 01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:09.399 out for you. That's why you're on this show. So embrace what you 863 01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:14.479 got, especially because what you got is beautiful. Like it's so disrespectful I 864 01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:18.199 don't think I could ever overlook that even if they did get married. No, 865 01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:24.920 there's no way. I don't think I. So the last season and 866 01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:27.960 the first season, there was like a lot of people where I'm like, 867 01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.399 Okay, yeah, they might get married. But this season, I'm like, 868 01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:34.920 I don't think anyone except for Brendan and Alexa will get Yeah, exactly, 869 01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:39.640 I'm feeling, and I feel like, honestly they should do. If 870 01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:43.279 they do, it won't last. Yeah, they definitely won't. They're all 871 01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:45.520 really immature and there's a lot of insecurities in this group, a lot of 872 01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:50.079 immaturity and a lot of like you know, damaged from like being cheated on 873 01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:54.399 or this or that. It's just like a lot of it, like negativity. 874 01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:58.359 I feel like they could, like Netflix should provide them some relationship coaches, 875 01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:00.319 like they do on like a lot of first sit There should be an 876 01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:04.760 in house therapist, yeah, because that's what they need, like ten days 877 01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:09.960 to get married. And you're like, these people suck and they need to 878 01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:13.760 grow up. Yeah. At this point, most of them don't even seem 879 01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:16.960 like they should get married. No, they like they need to work on 880 01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:20.720 themselves first. For sure. I cannot wait to meet like the friends and 881 01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:26.039 family. Oh my god, those are my favorite episodes. Yeah, the 882 01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:31.039 family does not hold back usually. Oh my god, Alexis family looks like 883 01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:38.640 they're terrible frended. It's so excited. I do love that she's like, 884 01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:42.840 you know, so beautiful, so out and proud about her culture and just 885 01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:45.159 like and he's like embracing it all. And I was like, Okay, 886 01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:49.800 that's cute. So cute. Yeah. No, they seem to like match 887 01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:56.560 each other so well, and like there's definitely a chemistry there and they're like 888 01:10:56.760 --> 01:11:01.159 they seemed committed to each other when they were like about and there was all 889 01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:04.399 the other people, you know, like a lot of people were looking at 890 01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:09.680 everybody else. Yeah, they did not know we're here for each other. 891 01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:14.479 Oh my god. They literally everyone's like, oh, well, i'm a 892 01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:16.520 childhood too so and so, but I chose so and so or like this 893 01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:19.199 is not my type. And they were just like no, I love them. 894 01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:25.680 They're great. I love her. She's amazing. Yeah, I'm getting 895 01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:30.920 like Lauren and camera and energy, Oh my god. Same yeah, which 896 01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:34.920 honestly the only example why the show works. Everybody else is a train wreck. 897 01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:40.840 Oh god, I'm so excited for this season though, like, I 898 01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:44.520 just want all the episodes now. I want to binge it already. I 899 01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:46.680 know. I hate that they keep like not releasing them all at once. 900 01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:51.199 I know they just released like one or two more and then like another in 901 01:11:51.239 --> 01:11:56.840 November, like may always leave you on such a cliffhanger in the end. 902 01:11:57.239 --> 01:12:02.039 Yeah, I love a Nick lash and Vanessa just come out with like these 903 01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:08.720 figures. Oh they're so good. Oh my god. I would love to 904 01:12:08.760 --> 01:12:12.359 host one of these shows. At first, like the first season, I 905 01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:15.199 was like, why are they the host? But I kind of love them 906 01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:16.840 for it now. But they're kind of funny the way they like do jabs 907 01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:21.720 at each other. Yeah, jobs at the characters too, or the Country 908 01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:27.039 show. Well, so now that we're done Real House, have a Beverly 909 01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:32.560 Hills. Is anything else coming back? Now? So we have to recap 910 01:12:32.680 --> 01:12:41.640 Winter House, We have to do Potomac and the new episodes of Love Is 911 01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:45.239 Blind which will be coming up. So there's when is Miami coming out? 912 01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:53.479 That's really like another Yeah I don't think for like another month. Okay, 913 01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:58.359 fine, I guess we'll recover from these. Yeah. I mean I'm just 914 01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:01.279 like happy my Wednesday and it is not going to be like three hours of 915 01:13:01.359 --> 01:13:10.439 television now because it was like Kardashians Beverly Hills a lot. At least now 916 01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:14.079 it's only two hours. Well, I guess we have a month until I 917 01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:17.239 started going out and stalking the real house in Miami, all around Miami. 918 01:13:19.119 --> 01:13:26.039 I love that for you. There is Real Housewives of answer Dam coming, 919 01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:30.920 so I was that. Yeah, but I think it's in Dutch, so 920 01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:38.399 I don't know if I'll be watching because like I'm not a subtitles literally girly. 921 01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:42.479 Yeah, I just can't. It's too much reading for me to work 922 01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:48.119 on your Dutch. I don't know if it's the language that you just like 923 01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:54.960 pick up. Well, on this note, I guess um we'll be finishing 924 01:13:55.079 --> 01:13:57.920 up. I'm going back to bed because I don't know if you guys can 925 01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:01.279 tell, I'm under the weather, so I'm just like a grandma. And 926 01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:08.399 I will also be going to bed because it's who I am here in Asterdam. 927 01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:12.479 Let us know your thoughts. Thanks for being with us. I hope 928 01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:15.279 you loved gossiping with us. See you next week. By Besties