What's In Rinna’s Envelope & Raven... Why Are You Doing Jumping Jacks?

WEBVTT100:00:06.679 --> 00:00:12.359Hi, you're listening to my RealitySays podcast, brought to you by My200:00:12.519 --> 00:00:18.000Therapist. As we're here to discusseverything pop culture, influencers, blind gossip,300:00:18.160 --> 00:00:28.440and of course reality TV. Weput the tea in reality. This400:00:28.480 --> 00:00:33.439week, we're going to be discussingthe Real Housewives of Beverly Hills finale reunion500:00:33.520 --> 00:00:40.039episode, a new episode of SaltLake City, Bling Empire, and the600:00:40.119 --> 00:00:46.119first four episodes of Love Is Blind. We're gonna start off with the Beverly700:00:46.240 --> 00:00:51.320Hills reunion. I can't even believethat we made it through this season.800:00:51.520 --> 00:00:57.399I think we deserve a medal.How was that whole like Elton John fiasco?900:00:57.560 --> 00:01:00.479Like this season, it's been awhole roller coaster. Wait, that1000:01:00.560 --> 00:01:03.359was this season? I thought itwas like at least two seasons ago.1100:01:04.079 --> 00:01:08.439No, that was this season.Like so much has happened, and I1200:01:08.480 --> 00:01:15.359feel like the biggest drama is likethe last two episodes, and it's just1300:01:15.439 --> 00:01:22.799been a lot. We've been throughit. While we finally survived the two1400:01:22.920 --> 00:01:27.439boring, kind of unnecessary reunion episodesand we finally got to Kathy and Rnham1500:01:27.439 --> 00:01:34.959and Kyle We'll stand down, Soyeah, and Cathy showed up like a1600:01:36.079 --> 00:01:42.680queen and her slippers saying hi girls, like so condescendingly, Like I love1700:01:42.719 --> 00:01:47.680her the way she throws shade.It's like the classiest way to throw shade.1800:01:47.760 --> 00:01:51.560I love it. Also, Ilove how no matter what, and1900:01:51.640 --> 00:01:57.040like every time she's on screen anywhere, she always somehow brings up Paris and2000:01:57.079 --> 00:02:00.560how Paris invented something that's my cool. No, that's my favorite thing about2100:02:00.599 --> 00:02:07.400her. And she's like the mostsupportive all this. So I would have2200:02:07.799 --> 00:02:14.520invented Barbie Core. It's so cute, it's giving jazzy. I know,2300:02:14.639 --> 00:02:20.360I love it. I wish mymom was like that. Um No,2400:02:20.800 --> 00:02:24.159they have such a cute relationship.I mean, I can't really say the2500:02:24.240 --> 00:02:30.479same about their sister relationship. Ifeel really sad about it. I hope2600:02:30.919 --> 00:02:37.039everything gets worked out between them,because I just feel like for those sisters2700:02:37.039 --> 00:02:40.560in particular, maybe like reality TVisn't the move for them, Like it2800:02:40.639 --> 00:02:46.680wasn't great for um Kyle and Kimback in the day, did not work2900:02:46.719 --> 00:02:52.800out so good for them. SoI feel like the same thing is almost3000:02:52.800 --> 00:02:59.599happening. I feel like history isbeing being repeated here. Maybe family therapy3100:02:59.719 --> 00:03:04.800is a a call. I don'tknow, like I mean, I love3200:03:04.879 --> 00:03:07.919to watch them. I think theymake the show. But that's like me3300:03:07.960 --> 00:03:12.639as a selfish as a viewer,But like if they were my friends,3400:03:12.680 --> 00:03:15.719that'd be like, Wow, youguys have a lot of unresolved issues.3500:03:15.280 --> 00:03:20.199Maybe hug it out, go tolike family therapy, like the way Kardashians3600:03:20.280 --> 00:03:23.240used to on like keeping Up withthe Kardashians. Yeah, oh my god,3700:03:24.159 --> 00:03:28.360the good old days. I feellike Kathy when she signed up for3800:03:28.759 --> 00:03:30.759Real House I was at Beverly Hills. She was more kind of, you3900:03:30.800 --> 00:03:34.599know, thinking to be she wasjust going to be a friend of like4000:03:34.919 --> 00:03:39.159dropping in, having those funny likehunky dory moments and stuff like that.4100:03:39.280 --> 00:03:43.960And now she got involved in allof this drama and she's like, wait,4200:03:44.039 --> 00:03:46.360I didn't sign up for this,like you know what it is.4300:03:46.759 --> 00:03:51.199As she said, she thought herand Lisa Wenda were friends and she could4400:03:51.199 --> 00:03:55.439trust her. That's where she wentwrong. Yeah, she realized that.4500:03:55.520 --> 00:04:00.159I think Hathy is like used togetting a lot of things her way,4600:04:00.360 --> 00:04:03.879so when things I do think shehad her breakdown. I'll just say that4700:04:04.039 --> 00:04:08.400I do think she definitely had somesort of a break Yeah. I don't4800:04:08.400 --> 00:04:13.159think this is all like some fabricatedthing. I do think she had a4900:04:13.199 --> 00:04:15.800breakdown, but I don't think itwas to the extent that Lisa is saying.5000:04:15.839 --> 00:04:19.040I think it's a lot a lotof it is exaggerated. I don't5100:04:19.120 --> 00:04:25.399see her saying that she had aI don't see her saying that slur just5200:04:25.480 --> 00:04:32.800because I think Kathy only Erica hurtit, only Erica got and then that5300:04:32.800 --> 00:04:36.360that's what got to the press.If only Erica hurt it, how did5400:04:36.399 --> 00:04:42.720it get to the press. That'snot suspicious at all. We see through5500:04:42.759 --> 00:04:46.079you, ericat Um. But yeah, I just think Kathy is like very5600:04:46.199 --> 00:04:51.600media trained, being a Hilton,So I don't see how she would just5700:04:53.319 --> 00:04:58.279be like saying slurs left and right, even if the cameras were, like5800:04:58.360 --> 00:05:00.600even if she's drunk, like sheit's in l a Like, I don't5900:05:00.639 --> 00:05:05.040think it's okay in any capacity tobe saying stuff like that, like,6000:05:05.199 --> 00:05:10.279you know, for where she lives, for the kind of family she's a6100:05:10.360 --> 00:05:13.680part of, for the kind ofpeople she hangs out with. I just6200:05:13.720 --> 00:05:16.560don't see how she would ever becomfortable saying things like that. No,6300:05:17.120 --> 00:05:24.199and like going on TV, didshe freak out because someone wasn't playing her6400:05:24.240 --> 00:05:28.680song. Yeah, hundred percent believethat. But like, I think it's6500:05:28.720 --> 00:05:32.959just a matter of Cathy like alwaysgetting what she wants, and she didn't6600:05:32.959 --> 00:05:38.600get what she wanted, and shedidn't get her tequila represented. She felt6700:05:38.639 --> 00:05:44.160like it was like the world's againsther exactly right after one thing, right6800:05:44.199 --> 00:05:48.639after the other, and she hada breakdown. I don't I think she's6900:05:48.759 --> 00:05:54.959well equipped to deal with things notgoing her way always, so I feel7000:05:55.000 --> 00:06:00.920like it took those two small thingsto really unravel her, which like it's7100:06:00.959 --> 00:06:05.800giving spoiled bitch and I love it, but I feel like she's used to7200:06:05.839 --> 00:06:10.319people like protecting her and like,you know, being able to trust people.7300:06:11.360 --> 00:06:15.120It's so funny because I believe someof the things Lisa is saying,7400:06:15.160 --> 00:06:19.800but the way that she's saying inand how she's exaggerating things and being so7500:06:19.920 --> 00:06:25.399dramatic, like I was abused,I was locked in a room. Oh7600:06:25.439 --> 00:06:29.920my god, Like that is whatmakes Cathy no, like, no matter7700:06:30.000 --> 00:06:34.519what happened, come up in theend, because Lisa is just like coming7800:06:34.560 --> 00:06:42.480across in the worst way possible.It's abused Garcella. I was like,7900:06:42.600 --> 00:06:46.560oh my god, and then I'mlike, wait, didn't you guys attack8000:06:46.680 --> 00:06:53.040Crystal for like three episodes for sayingviolated and now Kathy is she's abusing you,8100:06:53.439 --> 00:06:57.879like exactly, exactly. Actually,there was a lot of things that8200:06:58.040 --> 00:07:01.319like, we're very hypocritical, that'slike everyone else allowed to do. But8300:07:01.399 --> 00:07:10.319Renna, oh my god, itdoesn't make sense. Ah, I was8400:07:11.199 --> 00:07:15.399dying. I don't know how thisdidn't go through her mind, Like she's8500:07:15.439 --> 00:07:18.240so insensitive. We just need totalk about Erica for a second. How8600:07:18.319 --> 00:07:27.959she used the plane crash analogy todescribe her situation. How can she not8700:07:28.240 --> 00:07:33.399understand that there's plane crash victims involved, and you know that might not come8800:07:33.439 --> 00:07:40.360across, It might not hit home, It might be too soon too friends,8900:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.639How can she not understand that?I? Like, I can see9000:07:44.680 --> 00:07:48.199what she was trying to say,but like, it definitely was not the9100:07:48.279 --> 00:07:54.639right analogy. She didn't land theplane. Let's just say that I did9200:07:54.639 --> 00:07:58.839really enjoy her little Tiara and herlike ice creen. Look she looks all9300:07:58.879 --> 00:08:05.279I kept looking a Toddlers and yourkind of situation in that affit. Yeah,9400:08:05.360 --> 00:08:09.519but it was super entertaining. Ijust like loved watching her try to9500:08:09.560 --> 00:08:13.639explain herself and she was very likeshe was owning up to her ship.9600:08:13.079 --> 00:08:18.120She was apologizing to the right people. And you know, she actually was9700:08:18.240 --> 00:08:22.399very likable that whole reunion, Likeshe didn't say anything like as terrible as9800:08:22.439 --> 00:08:26.519she has this whole season. Ifeel like maybe she's finally coming to a9900:08:26.519 --> 00:08:31.759better place. I think a littlebit you can see that she's like growing10000:08:33.240 --> 00:08:39.519some somewhat taking accountability. But Iwouldn't go as far to call her likable10100:08:41.639 --> 00:08:48.919personally. Yeah, I think Istill think she needs to. She didn't10200:08:50.360 --> 00:08:54.480show up enough for the victims.Still in this reunion episode. I think,10300:08:56.080 --> 00:08:58.159well, like I don't. Ithink she's right, it's not her10400:08:58.200 --> 00:09:01.799responsibility, like it's a ego matter. She's winning these cases. She's you10500:09:01.799 --> 00:09:07.200know, fighting for a life inthe words of Jed Shaw, and I10600:09:07.240 --> 00:09:11.840feel like people need to stop likeputting that on her, Like maybe we10700:09:11.879 --> 00:09:15.799are not giving her enough benefit.Maybe once she does, like you know,10800:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.799finish with all the lawsuits, she'llbe able to do something for them10900:09:18.799 --> 00:09:22.639and show up and be the charitable, like normal person. But right now11000:09:22.720 --> 00:09:26.120she doesn't have the bandwidth. Idon't know, you can still say like11100:09:26.320 --> 00:09:31.279I feel for them, Like that'sjust like the bare minimum of like saying11200:09:33.399 --> 00:09:39.360she's she was basically saying, likeI don't give a funk about that.11300:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.919Well, she did say that inin Aspen, but like I feel like11400:09:43.919 --> 00:09:46.720at the Union she was kind ofbacktracking on that a little bit, like11500:09:46.799 --> 00:09:50.200not a lot, but a littlebit, and then the earring things,11600:09:50.279 --> 00:09:54.120she was standing by it so clearly, like, you know, I just11700:09:54.159 --> 00:10:01.120want to say that my next excusefor anything is gonna be for legal reasons.11800:10:01.159 --> 00:10:05.240Like if I'm late for work,I'm gonna be like our legal reasons.11900:10:05.600 --> 00:10:09.480If I cancel all my plans,I'm gonna say it's for legal reasons.12000:10:09.960 --> 00:10:16.639It's just for legal reasons, forlegal reasons, Sandy, for legal12100:10:16.679 --> 00:10:22.240reasons. But yes, it's ona hill. The only thing she could12200:10:22.240 --> 00:10:26.320say for like five minutes. Idon't know what kind of legal training she's12300:10:26.480 --> 00:10:33.559been doing, but I'd like towatch it because there's like definitely some lawyer12400:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.799in her ear piece being like,legal reasons. Legally, I plead the12500:10:37.799 --> 00:10:45.720fifth, I plead the fifth.No. I really really enjoyed actually when12600:10:45.840 --> 00:10:50.039Cathy came in and the first thingshe did was she kind of roasted Lisa12700:10:50.039 --> 00:10:54.080Arena in like a funny way Ithought that was super cute, and Lisa's12800:10:54.120 --> 00:11:01.360face was just like so not pleased. I was dying how Lisa is always12900:11:01.399 --> 00:11:05.399remembering what everybody is saying, alwaysbringing it up. But when it comes13000:11:05.440 --> 00:11:09.519to what she said, Oh,she suddenly has memory loss. Oh you13100:11:09.559 --> 00:11:13.639don't remember that you said that youwere preaching to the choir. It's like,13200:11:13.919 --> 00:11:18.639do you really think that during thiswhole conversation Lisa, she wasn't giving13300:11:18.679 --> 00:11:22.360her anything back. Yeah, likeshe was just like, stop stop,13400:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.039I'm being abused. No, shewas definitely bringing and like talking throughout whatever13500:11:26.120 --> 00:11:30.919Cathy was saying, like, Kathy'snot a feral animal. If she's not13600:11:31.000 --> 00:11:33.039getting like anything back, if she'sgetting like really, oh my god,13700:11:33.080 --> 00:11:39.480please stop, she wouldn't be keepdoing it. And she felt safe and13800:11:39.600 --> 00:11:43.879like I don't think it was aslike volatile as she makes it up to13900:11:43.960 --> 00:11:48.200be, because like, wasn't Mauricioin the house, Like when have been14000:11:48.360 --> 00:11:54.240able to hear you like these glassesbeing stomped on and screaming and yelling like14100:11:54.679 --> 00:11:58.759oh yeah, when she's like itwas in the dark, I was scared14200:11:58.919 --> 00:12:00.799and Cathy was like what do youme? And the lights were on,14300:12:00.799 --> 00:12:05.240were in Erica's bedroom also isn't Cathylike kind of blind, Like she wears14400:12:05.240 --> 00:12:09.360glass most of the time. Iwouldn't like stop on her only glasses,14500:12:09.399 --> 00:12:16.879like calm down and be in thedark. Like no, no, all14600:12:16.919 --> 00:12:18.919of that is so over dramatic,And she made it sound like it was14700:12:18.960 --> 00:12:22.240like some sort of horror film.It was like, you know, get14800:12:22.240 --> 00:12:28.720out territory, and poor little Lisathought that big bad Godzilla Cathy was gonna14900:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.480like attack her. She had tolock the door, like I'm sorry,15000:12:31.519 --> 00:12:35.639what, Like, no one isgoing to believe that. If anything,15100:12:35.679 --> 00:12:37.240I'd be locking the door if Iwas sleeping in the same house at least,15200:12:37.279 --> 00:12:41.759Oh my god, exactly, andI was dying out hypocritical she was15300:12:41.799 --> 00:12:46.960when she was called out, beinglike so you like you scream and yell15400:12:46.000 --> 00:12:50.840at people, And she just saidso like she had like no defense back.15500:12:50.960 --> 00:12:54.519She was just like so exactly,and like not enough people are calling15600:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.840her out. Yeah, people reallyneed to call her out on that.15700:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.399I don't know why everyone so scaredof her. I really don't get it.15800:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.919I do feel like I saw forthe first time this episode of the15900:13:07.000 --> 00:13:13.080Reunion a little bit of the likeCore four group, like breaking up a16000:13:13.159 --> 00:13:18.159little bit, like you saw CatKyle, you know, kind of yelling16100:13:18.200 --> 00:13:24.120at the read a little bit.Yeah, and then you saw um like16200:13:24.799 --> 00:13:30.480Cat Kyle and Lisa also like havingbecause of all this drama a little bit,16300:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.799even though like she's still sticking byLisa. I think, I think16400:13:33.159 --> 00:13:39.759this tension is gonna like make afew like riffs in the group that we16500:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.919actually definitely need for next season,because right now I hate this like this16600:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.360is one group and this is theother group, and we're gonna stick by16700:13:46.440 --> 00:13:50.559them. So that's the feeling yougot, because that's the opposite of the16800:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.399feeling that I got. By theend of this, I was like,16900:13:54.440 --> 00:13:58.759Wow, these four women are stilllike sticking by each other. They're still17000:13:58.759 --> 00:14:01.120in this fact like it's still themagainst everyone else. And after all this17100:14:01.200 --> 00:14:05.960ship that Lisa like put everyone through, everyone's still basically upper us. Like17200:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.360I don't get it, and sono, I think there's still like a17300:14:09.519 --> 00:14:13.440group. But I saw like afew comments here and there where they like17400:14:13.879 --> 00:14:18.279we're going against each other, whichusually I would see them all attacking the17500:14:18.320 --> 00:14:24.200other side, which was rare Ithink for that group in particular, because17600:14:24.240 --> 00:14:28.960it's like such a blind loyalty usuallyfor them. It was amazing. Actually,17700:14:30.320 --> 00:14:33.039I thought it was really really cutethe interactions between like Garcela and Sudden,17800:14:33.240 --> 00:14:35.679where there were such besties. Theywere just like giving each other the17900:14:35.759 --> 00:14:41.320eyes throughout the whole thing, likegod, oh my god. It was18000:14:41.399 --> 00:14:45.679like so cute and like relatable andlike they're real friends because they're just like,18100:14:45.759 --> 00:14:46.840is no one else salking seeing this? Is no one else going to18200:14:46.919 --> 00:14:52.159call us out? And like youcan just like read from their body language,18300:14:52.200 --> 00:14:54.120like they didn't even have to sayanything, but just their look was18400:14:54.200 --> 00:15:00.840like they're like there's no point that. Yeah, Like they did look a18500:15:00.879 --> 00:15:05.720little dejected, honestly, Yeah,I mean I do. Didn't blame them,18600:15:05.840 --> 00:15:09.480yeah, right, the season wouldhave been like so boring and toxic18700:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.799without them. They were trying to, I think, be against them,18800:15:13.840 --> 00:15:18.039but they like persevered and like roseabove so much that like they made like18900:15:18.120 --> 00:15:24.039the world love them. Everyone lookedso bad. They're the biggest fan favorites19000:15:24.200 --> 00:15:28.320right now, and I think itmight be interesting knowing that they're such favor19100:15:28.440 --> 00:15:35.679fan favorites, like next season,how it's gonna change the dynamic, Like19200:15:35.759 --> 00:15:41.519if people are gonna like if theother four girls are going to be even19300:15:41.559 --> 00:15:43.279more angry at them, or ifthey're going to actually try and suck up19400:15:43.320 --> 00:15:48.159to them now because they know thatthey're the fan favorites. So there were19500:15:48.200 --> 00:15:52.480no announcements by Andy, I know. And Okay, also another thing that19600:15:52.519 --> 00:15:56.879I was waiting for the whole episode. Lisa came in the first episode of19700:15:56.879 --> 00:16:03.559the Union with her like brown Manilaenvelope saying I got the receipts. Yeah,19800:16:03.639 --> 00:16:07.320but what they weren't pulled out?Where were these receipts that you were19900:16:07.320 --> 00:16:12.480going to like prove your point yourphone? Yeah, but I mean you20000:16:12.559 --> 00:16:17.320print out something in that big envelopeand you like wave it around, you20100:16:17.440 --> 00:16:25.559better be showing much inside. Shealways has props. I was disappointed by20200:16:25.559 --> 00:16:29.679that, and it made me likediscredit her a little bit because I'm like,20300:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.919are you just doing this for thedramatics of it and you don't actually20400:16:34.120 --> 00:16:40.720have like backing behind what you're saying. I did um love that. Garcia20500:16:40.879 --> 00:16:44.840was the only one who kept askingKyle like, weren't you mad at Lisa?20600:16:44.960 --> 00:16:48.159Why aren't you mad at Lisa?And like nobody was like at all20700:16:48.440 --> 00:16:52.919like questioning that, and Kyle wasjust like every once, stay out of20800:16:52.960 --> 00:16:56.399it, Kathy, why are youmad at me? Like there's like so20900:16:56.519 --> 00:17:03.120much toxicity it's it's insane, andlike she made it all about herself and21000:17:03.200 --> 00:17:07.720she was like I'm the one beingblamed, and it's like, why can't21100:17:07.720 --> 00:17:11.920you just step aside for a secondand just like stand up for your sister21200:17:12.039 --> 00:17:17.480for one second and be like,Okay, whatever happened, this is the21300:17:17.599 --> 00:17:19.759end of it. I don't wantto hear anymore and yell at at Renna21400:17:19.920 --> 00:17:25.160and not at Cathy. She's takingit out on Cathy when she should be21500:17:25.200 --> 00:17:30.000taking it out on Renna. Iwas actually really sad for Kathy when she21600:17:30.039 --> 00:17:33.160was like I was only upset becauseI thought you set up this whole surprise21700:17:33.240 --> 00:17:37.640tasting for me and then like nobodycare. Then it wasn't set up for21800:17:37.720 --> 00:17:47.079me, so like cute and likecastle cute, Like yeah, she just21900:17:47.119 --> 00:17:51.640like of course it was all forme, no, and then she just22000:17:51.720 --> 00:17:56.440like got so mad. Yeah.I can like see like bits of Paris22100:17:56.480 --> 00:18:03.160and Kathy, Like I can seebecause that's totally something I feel like Paris22200:18:03.160 --> 00:18:07.559would say, Yeah, you know, um, I actually wish we had22300:18:07.559 --> 00:18:11.880this podcast when the Paris and Loveshow was on, because that was just22400:18:11.000 --> 00:18:15.920like seeing how like the sisterhood betweenlike Paris and Nikki versus like Kathy and22500:18:15.960 --> 00:18:21.079her sisters. I feel that theyshould learn from Paris and Niki because they're22600:18:21.079 --> 00:18:26.440like, yeah, sister, Yeah, I really hope there's another season of22700:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.720Paris in Love, like when they'relike really moved in, living together,22800:18:30.920 --> 00:18:34.440like yeah, trying to babying.Yeah, that that'll be so good.22900:18:34.920 --> 00:18:40.119I'm so good. I hope theydo that. And I could see for23000:18:40.240 --> 00:18:42.440Kyle how she feels, you know, hurt that like you know, the23100:18:42.519 --> 00:18:48.160Hilton sisters keep like obviously supporting theirmom and liking these tweets and this and23200:18:48.240 --> 00:18:52.000that and going out and making statements, and I mean I would too.23300:18:52.039 --> 00:18:55.559They're bullying her mother, like andI would be like, hey, I23400:18:55.599 --> 00:19:00.440would expect better from my aunt whowas the show like ringleader, to like23500:19:00.880 --> 00:19:04.519defend my mom and like be onher side, begged her to come on23600:19:04.519 --> 00:19:11.440this show. Not you're like againsther. That doesn't make any sense.23700:19:11.960 --> 00:19:15.920If my sister was better friends,was Lisa Renna over me, I would23800:19:15.960 --> 00:19:21.039be very disappointed. It's not evensomeone likable, like no, it's like23900:19:21.079 --> 00:19:26.880the worst person ever. It's likeyou choose this person's side to like,24000:19:26.079 --> 00:19:29.680and you choose not to be madat this person, and you believe everything24100:19:29.680 --> 00:19:33.720she says, and like you're upsetwith me, Like, of course our24200:19:33.759 --> 00:19:37.119relationship is not going to be great. Yeah, And I think she's,24300:19:37.920 --> 00:19:42.720like I said before, she's donethat with Kim as well. She showed24400:19:42.759 --> 00:19:48.759her treat She I think values herlike place on the show and like her24500:19:48.799 --> 00:19:52.799friendships on the show more than herfamily, which is really sad, which24600:19:52.839 --> 00:19:56.599I think is the issue. Andthat's why she always has issues with the24700:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.359family. You know, every seasonshe cries about her relationship up with her24800:20:00.400 --> 00:20:03.240sisters and they're always broken and thisand that, and she's like, the24900:20:03.240 --> 00:20:07.359show hurt my family, But likeit's not the show, it's what you're25000:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.799doing on the show. Yeah,if like other families go on shows and25100:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.240they're fine, but like, ifyou keep like becoming friends with the people25200:20:15.279 --> 00:20:19.119that are horrible to your family,why would your family want to be around,25300:20:19.960 --> 00:20:23.720And like it doesn't make sense.Obviously they're going to be upset.25400:20:25.799 --> 00:20:27.880Exactly if I come on the showand like you beg me to come on25500:20:27.920 --> 00:20:30.759the show when you're like, awesome, we'll do it. Together, It'll25600:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.880be so fun and then you likebasically friends with my bully, Like,25700:20:36.079 --> 00:20:38.960no, we're done. And that'swhy I think Kathy said. She was25800:20:40.000 --> 00:20:45.480like, if there's not some firingshappening on this show, I'm not coming25900:20:45.519 --> 00:20:48.480back. And you know what,I don't blame her if it's between Kathy26000:20:48.519 --> 00:20:52.039and Renna. I mean, Ithink we know who the fans want to26100:20:52.079 --> 00:20:56.960go. Yeah, the thing iswell production and Andy. I feel like26200:20:57.839 --> 00:21:07.119there's some like easy alliance between Andyand Ranna. But yeah, we did26300:21:07.200 --> 00:21:10.759see a little bit this episode ofhim being a little bit fed up by26400:21:10.759 --> 00:21:17.799her. He was like enough enoughwhen Rena was talking. But at the26500:21:17.880 --> 00:21:22.119same time, I just feel likeshe's kind of like a veteran of the26600:21:22.160 --> 00:21:26.960show at this point, and sheshe feels a villain role that the show26700:21:26.359 --> 00:21:32.920no one else will to that extent, And that's exactly like to be a26800:21:33.000 --> 00:21:37.960villain so good that everybody hates you, you know, every single fan pretty26900:21:37.039 --> 00:21:41.359much, you have to be goodat it. If you are listening and27000:21:41.759 --> 00:21:47.559you actually like Ranna, let usknow why. We'd love to know.27100:21:48.759 --> 00:21:55.359I feel like no one's gonna accordingto our polls and everything we've ever ever27200:21:55.759 --> 00:22:00.119become empty. Yeah, I've neverheard anyone anyone's say, you guys are27300:22:00.119 --> 00:22:04.319wrong, But like if they replacedright now with like l v P,27400:22:04.599 --> 00:22:07.160I would be so happy. Ohmy god, I miss her so much.27500:22:07.240 --> 00:22:11.960She needs to come back. She'samazing. I miss her girls.27600:22:11.119 --> 00:22:15.000I need to bring her back.Yes, the show was so much classier27700:22:15.160 --> 00:22:19.480when she was on it. Yeah, she's the queen Bee of Also,27800:22:19.640 --> 00:22:25.119I'm gonna say this, it's gonnacome like off topic and kind of like27900:22:25.160 --> 00:22:30.680I guess from a more shallow likeplace of like viewing it. The houses28000:22:30.839 --> 00:22:34.039and the views and everything was alot nice for a few years ago on28100:22:36.599 --> 00:22:42.519they've like steadily gone downhill. Yeah, like they don't actually live in Beverly28200:22:42.599 --> 00:22:48.200Hills, a lot of them orwhatever. I don't even know all their28300:22:48.559 --> 00:22:53.519houses and events and everything just looksvery like pedestrian and compared to what it28400:22:53.720 --> 00:22:57.759was, Like, who doesn't missLisa vander Palm's gorgeous view when the pink28500:22:57.880 --> 00:23:07.599roses everywhere in the parties and I'mextravagance of it all, like like basically28600:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.240exactly like she was goals and youwere like, okay, like this woman28700:23:11.319 --> 00:23:15.920is throwing down in the kitchen,putting, putting on a badass t's gorgeous,28800:23:15.920 --> 00:23:18.960her closets amazing. Everyone else's house. I know they're super expensive and28900:23:19.039 --> 00:23:22.839nice, but like they don't They'renot anything I would like, you know,29000:23:22.200 --> 00:23:25.400like be like, oh my god, I would die to live in29100:23:25.400 --> 00:23:32.799that house. Kathy's house is probablyclose. Yeah, but because dynamic,29200:23:33.319 --> 00:23:37.640I wonder what the dynamic would belike. If Kathy and Lisa were on29300:23:37.680 --> 00:23:44.000the show together. Well, theywere friends way back. Yeah, I29400:23:44.000 --> 00:23:52.519don't know if I don't know becauseI would hope Kyle. Yeah, but29500:23:52.640 --> 00:23:57.799like I don't start but when aLisa was friends with Kathy and Rick,29600:23:59.279 --> 00:24:02.000even like in the big getting seasonsof the show, she was still friends29700:24:02.000 --> 00:24:04.839with them when they want to betalking to Kyle. Yeah, so maybe29800:24:04.839 --> 00:24:11.000they are still friends. I mean, so apparently Kathy and Kyle aren't really29900:24:11.079 --> 00:24:15.240talking. Said that the episode atthe end of the episode that m Bravo30000:24:15.319 --> 00:24:18.960con was like the first time thatthey've interacted with each other. Yeah,30100:24:19.000 --> 00:24:25.519it's actually really sad, pretty indicativeof the relationship with a work event is30200:24:25.559 --> 00:24:29.359like the one time that they're talkingto each other. It's actually super heartbreaking30300:24:29.440 --> 00:24:33.680because they always get into these likeyou know, fights around the times of30400:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.759like huge milestone like events for theirfamilies, so it's like, why can30500:24:37.839 --> 00:24:42.640you not put that aside and bethere for each other's families. I don't30600:24:42.640 --> 00:24:48.000know, Like this weekend, theyhad a baby shower for one of Kim's30700:24:48.119 --> 00:24:52.519daughters, right Brooke, I thinkon social media, so they both go.30800:24:52.440 --> 00:24:56.200No, so Kathy was there withlike Paris and Nikki and all of30900:24:56.599 --> 00:25:02.279Kyle's daughters were there, but addingKyle and the pictures, So I'm not31000:25:02.440 --> 00:25:10.559sure she went, but I wouldassume not. Yeah, I mean the31100:25:10.599 --> 00:25:17.680whole And then Fara's wedding is comingup, right, so we'll see what31200:25:17.759 --> 00:25:22.319happens with that if Kathy shows up. I mean, I feel like a31300:25:22.319 --> 00:25:27.039wedding if you don't show up toit is kind of like almost like a31400:25:27.079 --> 00:25:30.720final nail in the coffin when wellit doesn't show up, you know what31500:25:30.759 --> 00:25:37.440I mean. They uninvited or didn'tinvite Kyle to Nikki's wedding though she wasn't31600:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.839there. Oh yeah, because theywere. They but that I feel like31700:25:40.880 --> 00:25:48.359their relationship like back was really badand now now they've made it better,31800:25:48.440 --> 00:25:55.279and now I think it's going backin reverse, So hopefully it doesn't go.31900:25:55.680 --> 00:26:00.200I can't wait to see when theannouncements are for a new season because32000:26:00.240 --> 00:26:04.640I'm dying to know who's coming backand who's not. Obviously, everyone has32100:26:04.759 --> 00:26:08.960so many opinions. Just give usthe tea, Andy, like, what32200:26:10.000 --> 00:26:17.119are you waiting for? Rennais sayingTMZ called? Or after aspect, oh32300:26:17.720 --> 00:26:21.480is she on speed dial? There? They're like, oh girl, how32400:26:21.519 --> 00:26:23.240did she think that would be likea good thing to say? At the32500:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.440reunion? She's like, they alreadyknew, did they know because they texted32600:26:26.480 --> 00:26:33.319them they were returning your call,you left a message and your number.32700:26:34.920 --> 00:26:37.960Yeah. I mean they were atthe club with a lot of people,32800:26:37.559 --> 00:26:42.319but still, but how many ofthose people have TMZ on speed dial?32900:26:44.319 --> 00:26:48.960Exactly? It was really heartbreaking towatch Kyle breakdown at the end and they'll33000:26:48.000 --> 00:26:52.599read arms and not be able totake a shot. It was sad,33100:26:53.359 --> 00:27:00.400so very sad. It's a veryseason. It was like the juxtaposition um33200:27:00.440 --> 00:27:04.960I think it was Kathy um garcelonSutton like taking a picture like a happy33300:27:06.000 --> 00:27:08.039little picture at the end, andKyle was like crying. It was like33400:27:08.200 --> 00:27:15.480so sad to see them to differentworlds basically there was no resolution for her,33500:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.680and I can see how she wasasking Kathy for one and Kathy was33600:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.200like, I'm not doing this onTV basically, but like Cathy was like33700:27:22.279 --> 00:27:26.960mad at her for not knowing whyshe was not. I didn't get that.33800:27:26.640 --> 00:27:34.039Yeah, I mean, there's clearlyso many complexities to their relationship that33900:27:34.319 --> 00:27:38.119I feel like, like I saidbefore, reality Reality TV is going to34000:27:38.240 --> 00:27:42.079be like one of the hardest waysfor it to play out because I just34100:27:42.119 --> 00:27:47.359feel like there's so much history thatwe won't even ever be able to understand34200:27:47.359 --> 00:27:52.519between them. That's true, onthe other hand, compared to like Real34300:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.400Housewives of Salt Lake City, wherethese women don't have a lot of history34400:27:56.440 --> 00:28:00.480with each other, it's very refreshing. But no, some of them actually34500:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.720do, like Meredith and um Lisahave ten years. But I feel like34600:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.880ten years is not like it's like, you know, not like a lifetime34700:28:08.000 --> 00:28:15.519of like toxic fights, and likeLisa and Angie Harrington have twenty years together.34800:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.759That's a long time. Yeah,it is, And that's weird how34900:28:18.799 --> 00:28:23.240that friendship blew up. Honestly,I was dying that Lisa was like,35000:28:25.079 --> 00:28:30.440it's we've been friends for ten yearsand Meredith won't forgive me that I like35100:28:30.599 --> 00:28:37.200trashed her family and called her horrorand then and then Angie doing it for35200:28:37.279 --> 00:28:42.119twenty years. She's like, Okay, game over, We're done. Okay,35300:28:42.160 --> 00:28:47.119what do we think Angie's deal is? Is she's just trying to shoot35400:28:47.440 --> 00:28:52.960to Stir up to be on theshow finally, because she's always involved in35500:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.880everything, but she's not been onthe show. Okay, so I think35600:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.839she is trying to ship stir forsure. And she's definitely like super thirsty.35700:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.759I mean like her husband is makinga gene show. Suppose page like35800:29:03.839 --> 00:29:10.319that is what sus sketchy behavior youdefinitely, And like the way her eyes35900:29:10.480 --> 00:29:14.160light up. Also when she's oncamera, like she's trying a little bit36000:29:14.200 --> 00:29:17.359too hard. I feel like Iget like weird vibes from her, just36100:29:17.440 --> 00:29:22.480like all in all, But um, what I was gonna say is um,36200:29:22.559 --> 00:29:29.799Angie, she I think with Whitneylike she I don't actually think she36300:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.720said what Whitney was saying to theextent that Whitney was saying, because when36400:29:33.799 --> 00:29:38.319Whitney confronted her, she was like, oh, you said Lisa just dated36500:29:38.359 --> 00:29:45.720this guy before versus Whitney before hadtold us that it was the glose for36600:29:45.880 --> 00:29:52.200jazz tickets. So like, asI thought, Whitney flied it. Yeah,36700:29:53.000 --> 00:29:57.720she does with anything. And honestlythis episode actually like I was trying36800:29:57.759 --> 00:30:02.400to find my simple TI for Whitneybecause I was very hard on her,36900:30:02.519 --> 00:30:07.119like last episode, the last fewepisodes, and I could not find it.37000:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.640No, I tried. It's notvery likable, I must say.37100:30:11.759 --> 00:30:15.200No, Like I get that she'sgoing through a terrible trauma and like,37200:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.680you know, we'll never understand that, and like I get it, but37300:30:18.759 --> 00:30:22.759like she's taking it out on thewrong people and she doesn't know how to37400:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.480deal with it properly, Like sheneeds real help. She needs to sub37500:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.920conflating these two issues between her andHeather and her abuse. Those are not37600:30:32.000 --> 00:30:36.279exactly Heather did not abuse her.How is this all other? Yeah,37700:30:36.599 --> 00:30:37.960Like I'm confused. She's like,oh, it felt exactly like when I37800:30:38.000 --> 00:30:42.119was abused, I was silenced.Um, okay, well how is that37900:30:42.240 --> 00:30:48.839Hell's responsibility? It's not. She'sjust like, gets you drunk. I38000:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.759feel like it doesn't remember, likewhat happened. I think that's what happened38100:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.960at the sports game. She waslike, I got really up and then38200:30:56.200 --> 00:31:02.200created these like memories in her mind, and I create memories to when I'm38300:31:02.200 --> 00:31:06.119blackout. I'm just not starting fightsover them, like, hey, maybe38400:31:06.119 --> 00:31:10.599I'm wrong. We're just texting thegroup Chap being like, what the hell38500:31:10.680 --> 00:31:15.400did I say? Exactly? Butshe's like, you know, it's a38600:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.319lot to put on someone, thewhole abused thing, the whole I'm feeling38700:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.559this way, to your responsibility tomake me feel this way. It is38800:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.119a lot to put on someone.It's irresponsible and it's honestly not fair.38900:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.839Yeah. No, it's the factthat she's like doubling down on it too39000:31:32.039 --> 00:31:37.039after like talking to Angie and hearinglike Angie being like I never said that,39100:31:37.400 --> 00:31:42.920and like you just can't admit it. Yeah, she will never admit39200:31:42.960 --> 00:31:48.079things. Like she's so just damagedin like a very sad way, but39300:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.319like she needs to stop taking itout on the friendships. Yeah, I39400:31:51.359 --> 00:31:56.799mean maybe after leaving she's closing thisMormon church chapter, maybe that will help39500:31:56.839 --> 00:32:01.880her if she gets some real theresort of relief, Phil, some sort39600:32:01.920 --> 00:32:09.200of relief, Hill, I needa drinking game. Every time she says39700:32:09.440 --> 00:32:16.039hell or Phil, he'll be asblack is. Yeah, I won't be39800:32:16.079 --> 00:32:21.039able to recap the episode. No, He'll be like I think she said39900:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.519this, and I'll be like,she never said that, baby witness it40000:32:25.119 --> 00:32:30.200exactly. But I'm a hundred percentteam Heather. Because Heather was just you40100:32:30.240 --> 00:32:34.240know, making every complete sense.She was like, this never happened.40200:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.160She even went to Angie and shewas like, Hey, did this ever40300:32:37.279 --> 00:32:45.240happens? I just I mean,yeah, as much as Andree probably would40400:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.880have wanted it to happen, becauselike then she would get even more of40500:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.640a storyline. And she was likemortified. She was like, it's a40600:32:52.680 --> 00:32:58.960business environment that would never utter thosewords. Yeah, like Lisa would do40700:32:59.119 --> 00:33:04.920her ass, which I believe.Yeah, Like I really don't think Lisa40800:33:04.960 --> 00:33:08.319would take too long to see someonefor defamation of character or whatever for those40900:33:08.359 --> 00:33:14.039kind of rumors in a business setting, it's like obviously damaging to her reputation.41000:33:15.720 --> 00:33:22.720Yeah, Whitney needs to put downthe tequila and look inward and heavy41100:33:22.799 --> 00:33:29.799journal. I don't know, focuson like that, reconnecting to your brother41200:33:29.839 --> 00:33:34.319and sister and like take care ofyour children. Just stop trying to meddle41300:33:34.440 --> 00:33:39.400in everything. Yeah, everybody anddrama. Lisa was saying how she felt41400:33:39.799 --> 00:33:44.160like close to Whitney because like,you know, what did you say a41500:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.680bad truth is better than a goodlie? But like what if it wasn't41600:33:46.680 --> 00:33:50.480a bad truth, what if it'slike no truth at all? Yeah,41700:33:52.000 --> 00:33:58.119I found that whole like friendship becauselike, yeah, she was the one41800:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.680who like started and called us allthis ship like and when he didn't bring41900:34:01.720 --> 00:34:06.359this up like this, none ofthis would have happened. So and she42000:34:06.519 --> 00:34:12.360never believed award Whitney said last season, So like this season is so different,42100:34:13.920 --> 00:34:19.320Like I did not have that pairingon my bingo card, not at42200:34:19.360 --> 00:34:23.800all, And honestly I don't likeit. Yeah, No, Lisa's iconic,42300:34:24.000 --> 00:34:29.760so she's on her Like I likeher better when she's on her own.42400:34:30.639 --> 00:34:35.639I love how beautiful and chic theylook when they go skiing, because42500:34:35.679 --> 00:34:39.719I could never, oh my god, I would be fully like Gan on42600:34:39.719 --> 00:34:44.400the Bunny Hell, oh my god. Yeah same. But also like she's42700:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.719wearing spanks and like you know,I mean even if the other women aren't,42800:34:47.760 --> 00:34:51.760they all look amazing, Like Icould never look that good doing a42900:34:51.800 --> 00:34:55.400winter activity, Like that's amazing.And I was laughing in like in one43000:34:55.440 --> 00:34:59.400part of the episode when they weredoing an outside walk and Math is like43100:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.280it's so beauty, a full outI'm like, I'm not are you kidding?43200:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.440How is this beautiful? It looksfreezing? No, I like like43300:35:07.480 --> 00:35:15.079a winter like walk, but thewhole not for me. Yeah, it43400:35:15.119 --> 00:35:19.960never ends for them, Like alot of people love that vibe. I43500:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.199guess. I mean, if youlive there, you have to write,43600:35:22.079 --> 00:35:28.239but every activity is always like skiingor like some sort of snowy activity.43700:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.719Yeah, and they made it looksfun. It did look so beautiful,43800:35:31.840 --> 00:35:37.440Like yeah, I was just dyingat the like juxtaposition of this episode,43900:35:37.519 --> 00:35:43.920like they're in this beautiful glass thinglike with mountain views and champagne and charcouterie44000:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.519and like last episode in Arizona wehad them at some like college bar bar.44100:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.440What is happening with this budget?Like what happened last episode? And44200:35:52.800 --> 00:35:59.360planned this? Was it? Whitney? Yeah? Who planned this dinner doesn't44300:35:59.440 --> 00:36:05.599add up? Um. Another thingabout Whitney I was like so shocked about44400:36:05.920 --> 00:36:10.199was like I just didn't realize howhard it was to leave the Mormon Church44500:36:10.440 --> 00:36:16.320like that, like having a havingto have it notarized, and then like44600:36:16.440 --> 00:36:21.239I didn't realize that they take tenpercent of your income, Like absolutely not,44700:36:21.320 --> 00:36:24.239what are that your your manager isnot already hanging enough taxes? I44800:36:24.280 --> 00:36:32.480don't need absolutely not, like wouldnever um. But it is interesting how44900:36:32.559 --> 00:36:37.960much you're like getting to know aboutthe Mormon Church, right, And I45000:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.360mean I follow a lot of likeMormon influencers who are not on the show,45100:36:40.760 --> 00:36:45.920and I know it's like the MormonTikTok is like huge, and it's45200:36:45.000 --> 00:36:49.159like always super interesting to me becauseit's not something I see every day,45300:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.440and like where I live, therearen't a lot of Mormons or any so,45400:36:52.559 --> 00:36:58.159like it's very very interesting to mehow they get down. I mean45500:36:58.199 --> 00:37:04.960there's that whole like swinger Mormon groupon TikTok and then but then there's like45600:37:05.159 --> 00:37:10.400the ones that I feel like hersuper like wholesome and yeah, exactly like45700:37:10.519 --> 00:37:15.039Rachel parself love her, Oh mygod, I love her, like her45800:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.920family so cute, her homeless,stunning. And I remember when before the45900:37:17.920 --> 00:37:21.280show came out, they were likedoing she was doing a Q and A46000:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.760on Instagram and people were like,oh, would you join Wheelhouse as of46100:37:23.880 --> 00:37:30.000Salt Lake City flashed it. Yeah, she was like absolutely not. I46200:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.559have thoughts about these women, Yeah, I think after the first episode,46300:37:32.559 --> 00:37:37.760I remember her saying like, thisis not what real Mormon women do,46400:37:38.039 --> 00:37:43.880Like, well, I mean,like definitely not, because half these women46500:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.440are trying to leave. I don'teven know if this is what non Mormon46600:37:47.559 --> 00:37:52.360women do. Yeah, like nobodydoes this. It's amazing on a whole46700:37:52.400 --> 00:37:57.079different level. And I can seehow, like if that was my culture46800:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.960they were portraying, I would belike, I don't like this. What46900:38:01.119 --> 00:38:06.679is happening here? Yeah, butit is fun to watch just because like47000:38:07.280 --> 00:38:09.639every city has such a different vibe, and like, this is a vibe47100:38:09.679 --> 00:38:13.159I would never sign up before,just because it's cold and I hate the47200:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.480cold, and like they're just rockingit and looking fabulous, Like everyone's hair47300:38:16.599 --> 00:38:21.079is like all blown out and longand gorgeous as their skiing, and I'm47400:38:21.119 --> 00:38:27.039like, what, you don't havethe humidity to ruin it? Humidity,47500:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.920girl, I feel like I wouldget tangled in my skis. I would47600:38:29.920 --> 00:38:35.039just be done. I was like, all of this looks so fabulous and47700:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.000I couldn't tell who was who thatwhole like skiing shrip. I could not47800:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.719that. I was like, whyis there like people here who look like47900:38:40.760 --> 00:38:46.159Lisa? Everyone looks like Lisa andlike and like hither too. I was48000:38:46.199 --> 00:38:52.519like I was trying to replace Whitneyby like inviting of her cousin, because48100:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.840what is happening? Why is thissuch a big roop? I can't focus48200:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.920on what's happening when all these newpeople come from. But I will say48300:39:01.000 --> 00:39:07.559I loved um the like switch fromwatching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, because48400:39:07.599 --> 00:39:13.440I kind of have like stress whileI'm watching that whole franchise, and then48500:39:13.480 --> 00:39:17.159when you switch to Salt Lake City, I feel like it's just such a48600:39:17.280 --> 00:39:21.800like lightness to it, you knowwhat I mean? Oh my god,48700:39:21.880 --> 00:39:23.960right, it was too draining atthis point, That's what I'm saying.48800:39:24.239 --> 00:39:30.760Like the length of the conflict isso refreshing for Salt Lake City because it48900:39:30.800 --> 00:39:36.840all seems so new and light comparedto Beverly like that should goes deep in49000:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.519Beverly Hills. Yeah, And it'slike such a small town and like I49100:39:39.519 --> 00:39:43.360mean you saw it, like I'mSalt Lake is as well. But like49200:39:44.480 --> 00:39:46.719everyone after so many seasons off theshow, so many people have come and49300:39:46.800 --> 00:39:52.119gone, and everyone's still kind ofis around and it's friends and it's just49400:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.519like the whole thing is just youknow, it feels like a lot,49500:39:55.239 --> 00:39:59.079which is partly why I like it. But this season was a lot.49600:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.039There's like more like to bauchery.I feel like on Salt Lake City,49700:40:02.079 --> 00:40:07.679which is just like fun to watch, it's just like theirs are they just49800:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.079don't care, like on Beverly Hills. I think by this one, especially,49900:40:10.119 --> 00:40:13.599like women really care what people thinkabout them. They've got their like50000:40:13.719 --> 00:40:20.840very media trained in comparison, werein Salt Waters basically yeah and there and50100:40:20.880 --> 00:40:23.079obviously they live in Hollywood. Theyknow how it works. Meanwhile, we're50200:40:23.199 --> 00:40:29.599I feel like we're watching like middleaged college girls. It's like Jersey Shore50300:40:29.719 --> 00:40:34.280meats Like, like, I loveit. They don't care. They're just50400:40:34.320 --> 00:40:37.159like you know, they get blackout, they were lingoide at work, they50500:40:37.159 --> 00:40:40.280do whatever the fun they want.Yeah, no, it's so entertaining.50600:40:40.320 --> 00:40:45.519I'm so here for it. Iactually really enjoyed this episode. Yeah,50700:40:45.559 --> 00:40:47.400this was a good episode. Lastone, like the last few were like50800:40:47.400 --> 00:40:52.320a little dark. This one wasjust like it was lighter better. Yeah50900:40:52.400 --> 00:41:00.760yeah, um speaking of um backto l A. I guess Wing Empire51000:41:00.920 --> 00:41:06.559so we finished that. Yes,I love this season. Actually, I51100:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.800Initially I thought I wasn't gonna likeit, but it turned out to be51200:41:08.880 --> 00:41:15.360really good. I really really enjoyedit. I really enjoyed seeing things through51300:41:15.400 --> 00:41:23.800Christine's eyes this season, and Ireally enjoyed Kane going like trying to really51400:41:23.840 --> 00:41:30.039be a villain this season. Yeah, he like stirs, shut up,51500:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.480and then once it comes back tohim, he's just like wait, what,51600:41:34.639 --> 00:41:39.719Like I don't like, like,I don't know if it's a roman51700:41:39.920 --> 00:41:44.920plays on the show or he's actuallylike that, because I mean I know51800:41:45.000 --> 00:41:46.440people that are friends with him inreal life and like you know, they51900:41:46.480 --> 00:41:51.239love him, and I just likeI don't know if that's how he is,52000:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.960because like he just seems so fakeon the show and like such a52100:41:55.480 --> 00:42:00.639ship disturb Yeah, for no reason, always starting shut up, and then52200:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.960when it comes back to him,he hates confrontation. He dies, he52300:42:05.039 --> 00:42:09.840makes excuses, and then he liketries to turn everyone against Christine or like52400:42:10.159 --> 00:42:15.800the fact that he didn't invite Christineto his dinner. But yeah, that's52500:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.679like the perfect word for him,petty exactly. And like I just felt52600:42:20.719 --> 00:42:24.800bad because like Christine really didn't doanything to deserve this treaty, and she52700:42:24.880 --> 00:42:30.599did nothing going to create a divideEven further, I think he wants her52800:42:30.599 --> 00:42:35.119off the show because she's become likemore of a fan favorite. She's awesome.52900:42:35.239 --> 00:42:38.199First of all, people knew herbefore the show, and people knew53000:42:38.239 --> 00:42:43.400her because of social media, right, and she's in that whole like o53100:42:43.599 --> 00:42:49.920C social media bubble with like LaylaMilawney and Casey Brown, that whole group,53200:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.639and like, you know, I'vealways kind of known of her from53300:42:52.679 --> 00:42:54.519that, and I thought it waslike, if anything, she'd be the53400:42:54.559 --> 00:42:59.159real heart too, but I guessshe wasn't Hills, So whatever. Um,53500:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.119I wish it would Joe in theWell Housewives, honestly, I do.53600:43:01.400 --> 00:43:07.000I think she'd be fabulous and waymore fun, oh my god,53700:43:07.480 --> 00:43:10.880like way better. But um,she's obviously is on a different show on53800:43:10.920 --> 00:43:15.239a different network. So I feellike this show is getting like also kind53900:43:15.280 --> 00:43:21.360of toxic for no reason. Yeah. No, they just bully each other,54000:43:22.960 --> 00:43:29.360and then like the whole toxicity withlike Kim and Kevin, like she54100:43:30.159 --> 00:43:32.800just wanted to like string him alongand like it was like, oh,54200:43:32.880 --> 00:43:37.559yeah, you're not my type,Okay, whatever, that's fine, typical54300:43:37.440 --> 00:43:42.920Yeah, and then as soon ashe brings his girl over. She's so54400:43:43.000 --> 00:43:47.119jealous, like can't stand it,and like, I don't know, I54500:43:47.199 --> 00:43:51.280just feel like she needs to goto therapy, not a just a Pikey54600:43:51.360 --> 00:43:57.920healer. Because girl was jealous.She was really really mean to Kevin.54700:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.159I don't I think she did himdirty. I don't think she was fair54800:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.360to She did not say right awayshe wasn't interested. She was stringing him54900:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.880along. She would him take alie detector test. She made him feel55000:44:07.880 --> 00:44:10.719like a piece of ship so manytimes, and it just kind of not55100:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.239She would say she's going on adate and then ghost him, like it's55200:44:15.280 --> 00:44:21.960so confusing to him, like it'sit's like fucked up for her to string55300:44:22.039 --> 00:44:27.039him along and then be like okay. Also not by everything, and then55400:44:27.039 --> 00:44:30.480the fact that she was like ifI wanted him, I could get him.55500:44:30.480 --> 00:44:31.679I was so grossed up by that. I'm like, okay, I'm55600:44:31.679 --> 00:44:36.159like these like he's been in lovewith this girl forever, Like yeah,55700:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.079they had they had like the cutestchemistry ever. I really hope I love55800:44:39.199 --> 00:44:45.320them on she's so cute. Iapparently they're still together. So I'm very55900:44:45.639 --> 00:44:50.519hopeful that he will grow up andyou know, she'll help him be the56000:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.719man he's meant to be. Theyseem super super key. Stop just taking56100:44:53.760 --> 00:44:59.840off his shirt and like have somesubstance, yeah, and also have some56200:45:00.199 --> 00:45:06.039self respect and like, you know, don't act necessarily like a little puppy56300:45:06.159 --> 00:45:09.679for all these like other real people, yeah, to like you know,56400:45:09.760 --> 00:45:16.679do charity for Like, it's weirdthe whole when he almost like dumbs himself56500:45:16.800 --> 00:45:22.320down, like when he's around thembecause he's like, like you said,56600:45:22.360 --> 00:45:27.719like they're his little they're little puppyand like he's like whatever you guys say56700:45:27.960 --> 00:45:31.639kind of thing, like like hehas to be very non threatening, right,56800:45:32.239 --> 00:45:37.719Yeah. But like even when hewent with um Christine to Paris,56900:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.880which I thought was like so cute, I'm like, I feel like he57000:45:40.920 --> 00:45:47.199could have taken more initiative and liketry try to like further his career in57100:45:47.360 --> 00:45:52.079fashion and modeling being there, hewas just kind of like hiding behind her57200:45:52.119 --> 00:45:57.400the whole time, which shows likea little bit of immaturity. Still in57300:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.840that sense, I think I dothink his career would benefit a lot more57400:46:01.000 --> 00:46:06.159if he was more proactive and moreconfident and more would go get her,57500:46:06.400 --> 00:46:09.199you know, yeah, because thatwould have been like the perfect opportunity to57600:46:09.280 --> 00:46:15.199like go away from the like la commercial marketing and go into like Paris57700:46:15.400 --> 00:46:22.000Milan, like runaway stuff. Butdo you think he has the drive for57800:46:22.119 --> 00:46:28.480that? Yeah, doesn't seem too. Do you think, um, it57900:46:28.559 --> 00:46:34.480was wrong of him to date theraiky healer? I do. I think58000:46:34.519 --> 00:46:42.159he should have at least like askedbeforehand, because like she was more than58100:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.639just like the raiky girl that justlike puts her hands on top of you58200:46:45.760 --> 00:46:51.599or whatever they do. Um,she was actually like talking about her life58300:46:51.599 --> 00:46:58.039and treating them more like a realtherapist. So I think given their history58400:46:58.320 --> 00:47:00.599and the fact that like personal informasian is being shared, I feel like58500:47:00.639 --> 00:47:07.920a client patient boundary was overstepped.But do you not think it was also58600:47:07.039 --> 00:47:12.280more on the racky healer not togo with this dude? No, I58700:47:12.320 --> 00:47:15.239think they're both in the wrong.Like I was watching this whole thing and58800:47:15.280 --> 00:47:19.679nobody was like saying anything about thericky Healer, and then everyone was talking58900:47:19.679 --> 00:47:23.079about Kevin making a piece of shit, and I'm like, but she's her59000:47:23.159 --> 00:47:30.800patient, her responsibility. She's theone like opening up about this whole Kevin59100:47:30.840 --> 00:47:31.880thing to her and like talking toher. And then she goes, oh,59200:47:31.880 --> 00:47:37.480now I'm gonna go out with Kevin, Like no, that's like raised59300:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.880red flags. But I think they'reboth in the wrong. I just think59400:47:40.880 --> 00:47:46.000she wanted to be on the show. Honestly, she wanted to be a59500:47:46.119 --> 00:47:51.119character, got her little she waslike, hey, I'm not just a59600:47:51.159 --> 00:47:57.800reicky healer and you can hide orlike she was just advertising her business.59700:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.199I thought, odd, yeah,exactly. I thought, um, Christine's59800:48:02.239 --> 00:48:07.119dinner was very very sweet to inviteeveryone and to like make it all all59900:48:07.239 --> 00:48:12.559of branch themed. So they didn'tshow it, but I saw that she60000:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.920posted on Instagram and she said likethat whole intense flower arrangement, which I60100:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.760thought it was a little much becausenobody could see each other, but it60200:48:19.840 --> 00:48:27.079was all made with like all ofbranches and through like we've through and yeah,60300:48:27.239 --> 00:48:29.679and then she said the whole menu, it was all of them,60400:48:30.119 --> 00:48:35.320and then like the invitations were likeolive oil cakes, like in a little60500:48:35.360 --> 00:48:37.199box. Like I thought it wasso cute and like, you know,60600:48:37.280 --> 00:48:42.679she was really trying. Yeah,that's so nice, and nobody really gave60700:48:42.719 --> 00:48:46.320it. Honestly, I think she'sso sweet. Nobody gave me. They60800:48:46.400 --> 00:48:51.559just like are always trying to tearher down no matter what, like she'll60900:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.760no matter what she does, it'salways going to be seen somehow in a61000:48:54.800 --> 00:48:59.239negative like, oh she does thislike over the top party, like she's61100:48:59.280 --> 00:49:02.360trying too hard, they'll say,And so I'm like, yeah, she's61200:49:02.440 --> 00:49:07.320making an effort, fabulous or beingwhatever. I do think there's like a61300:49:07.320 --> 00:49:14.880group jealousy towards her, and likeI don't know why. I think like61400:49:15.199 --> 00:49:21.679Kane, Kelly and Kim have thislike alliance and it's like sad to see61500:49:21.679 --> 00:49:27.000that divide. It's true, butalso Kim is kind of like okay terms61600:49:27.039 --> 00:49:30.719with Christine. She's like trying toplay the both sides, both sides.61700:49:30.920 --> 00:49:37.159Yeah, as we see, she'sgood at that because she's a gemini.61800:49:37.599 --> 00:49:45.400I don't know, girl is toxic. I think she's so beautiful. I61900:49:45.400 --> 00:49:49.079think she should just like Dat oneof the gorgeous actors she keeps bringing around.62000:49:49.719 --> 00:49:53.920Yeah, I stop playing with thislike little boys emotions. I actually62100:49:54.000 --> 00:49:58.320don't think she's probably not ready fora real relationship, and there's a lot62200:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.960of healing that she still has todo, as we've seen previous seasons.62300:50:01.440 --> 00:50:07.440So it's nice of her to addressthat and to face it. Yeah,62400:50:07.760 --> 00:50:14.119no, she I like Kevin andher just like, I really hope next62500:50:14.159 --> 00:50:19.119season nothing happens between them. Theydon't get back together because they're just like62600:50:19.320 --> 00:50:22.199not men for each other, andI hope she doesn't try and like their62700:50:22.239 --> 00:50:30.880whole horrible perform Yeah, like I'venever seen two people so bad like together,62800:50:30.679 --> 00:50:37.639and maybe Kelly and Andrew. Ohyeah, I mean Kevin did like62900:50:37.719 --> 00:50:42.400Kelly the first season, like he'sjust stopped trying to date within the group.63000:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.000Yeah, I think he does likepush it a little too far.63100:50:45.719 --> 00:50:53.000Yeah, he's a little bit aggressiveabout it. But yeah, they seem63200:50:53.039 --> 00:50:55.719like a good match, you knowwhat it is. I feel like they63300:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.199know him really well, and asfriends, they feel like he doesn't have63400:51:00.440 --> 00:51:02.519what they need, Like he doesn'toffer as much as like they would want63500:51:02.559 --> 00:51:07.519in a partner because he's like aman child, so they're like why would63600:51:07.519 --> 00:51:10.960I be into But then they likethe attention because he's hot. I think63700:51:10.960 --> 00:51:17.440it's like they're all very like superficialbecause he has made it. They're like63800:51:17.679 --> 00:51:22.239not giving him the time of dayexactly. Even like when they were introducing63900:51:22.360 --> 00:51:23.800like you know, like this guyto Kelly and they were like, what64000:51:23.840 --> 00:51:25.559do you do, how much moneydo you have? What kind of car64100:51:25.679 --> 00:51:30.559do you have? And I'm justlike, who talks this much about money?64200:51:30.639 --> 00:51:35.199That's crazy. Like when you firstmeet someone, it's like it's like64300:51:37.880 --> 00:51:42.559I know they say that it's intheir culture. So it's very interesting to64400:51:42.719 --> 00:51:46.159like, I guess watch that becauseit's so different from any other show and64500:51:46.159 --> 00:51:52.320no one else really tryin that's likevery flashy and like it's giving my super64600:51:52.360 --> 00:52:01.320sweet sixteen. Yeah, that showwas iconic. I'm amazing, But this64700:52:01.360 --> 00:52:06.039is basically every episode is that.I'm like, what is happening? Like64800:52:06.320 --> 00:52:08.360this is this much? This isthat much? Like about this, It's64900:52:08.400 --> 00:52:15.079like it does give me the lifestyleporn though that Yeah, Beverly Hills,65000:52:15.280 --> 00:52:21.199Yeah, do not always give me. They're just not trying to get robbed65100:52:21.199 --> 00:52:29.039anymore. Yeah, it's not reallyworking that one. Clearly, Um Jamie,65200:52:30.440 --> 00:52:37.480oh my god, she bothers meso much. She clearly so jealous65300:52:37.480 --> 00:52:40.840of Christine, like the comments shewas making at the Paris Fashion show being65400:52:40.920 --> 00:52:49.119like I can't believe she's a clientand I'm an influencer. Yeah, I65500:52:49.199 --> 00:52:53.400was like, that's not valued bythe they love that. I think she's65600:52:53.480 --> 00:52:57.760v I p that's beautiful. Goodfor her. Do you know how much65700:52:57.800 --> 00:53:01.840like Channel ready to where you haveto buy to like to be hundreds of65800:53:01.880 --> 00:53:07.159thousands of dollars. Yeah, likeobviously she buys her high jewelry and stuff65900:53:07.199 --> 00:53:09.480like come on, So I feellike that is a lot of jealousy,66000:53:09.599 --> 00:53:14.519like yeah, being an influencer ofschool, Like you're technically self made now66100:53:14.559 --> 00:53:19.280apparently, so she says. Butstill we'll take that with a grain of66200:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.639salt. Yeah, she said shewas only self made for her like work66300:53:22.760 --> 00:53:30.599expenses, which act like a shadywave of saying she's not really made.66400:53:31.159 --> 00:53:35.719I feel like she was really chilland quiet the first season, and now66500:53:35.960 --> 00:53:43.599she's just like being a mean girl, and it's just like why she's so66600:53:43.679 --> 00:53:50.320jealous of Christine and she doesn't reallyhave like a storyline because she doesn't really66700:53:50.840 --> 00:53:54.719she doesn't. He's kind of there. Yeah, she doesn't bring anything to66800:53:54.760 --> 00:54:00.880the show, and her face isalways so unpleasant, like she's all she's66900:54:00.920 --> 00:54:04.840always looking so angry and like discontent. I don't know she bothers me,67000:54:04.880 --> 00:54:09.440honestly. Yeah, it honestly feelslike she doesn't bring anything. Some vintage67100:54:09.440 --> 00:54:15.199fashion, I say, Santash,We got it. This is Vintish Galleano.67200:54:15.400 --> 00:54:20.920Yeah, we know. I meanI love that Ails had a passionate67300:54:21.159 --> 00:54:27.400about fashion, and that's great foryour influencing career. But I mean nobody67400:54:27.440 --> 00:54:35.159asked save it for your Instagram page, girly exactly. Yeah, so this67500:54:35.239 --> 00:54:40.840season was just to know it wasforgettable. I'd say the biggest takeaways that67600:54:40.920 --> 00:54:46.320Christina is awesome, her friendship withKevin's cute. Kevin's relationship is cute,67700:54:46.639 --> 00:54:52.519and that's about it. I wouldn'tsay it's forgettable. I would say I67800:54:52.079 --> 00:54:55.760enjoyed watching it. It was justlike a pleasant watch, but it wasn't67900:54:55.800 --> 00:55:01.239like the crazy drama that I thoughtI was going to get from it.68000:55:01.800 --> 00:55:07.719I felt like everyone was being verysubdued and that wasn't really bringing it,68100:55:07.800 --> 00:55:10.920and I think Caine was trying.So that's why it was jarring in comparison68200:55:10.960 --> 00:55:15.400to like how everyone else was tryingnot to bring it. Apparently, like68300:55:15.480 --> 00:55:19.800Cain like brought on like most ofthe people on the show, like he's68400:55:19.920 --> 00:55:24.519kind of like the common link betweenall exactly. Yeah. Yeah, he's68500:55:24.559 --> 00:55:31.800like friends with everyone, so obviously, like he's trying really hard to keep68600:55:31.880 --> 00:55:37.760it lasting and keeping up drama.Drama. Yeah, he's like bringing the68700:55:37.840 --> 00:55:43.639drama because someone else's I can seethat. Actually that's a responsible like you68800:55:43.679 --> 00:55:51.840know co star. Mm hmm.Okay, So before to Yes, my68900:55:51.960 --> 00:55:55.039favorite of all of these shows,Love is Blind. I love that ship.69000:55:57.159 --> 00:56:00.440Oh my god, I'm so excitedfor Love we got it up.69100:56:01.360 --> 00:56:08.679Yes, super excited with the castof course. Yes, I like to69200:56:08.719 --> 00:56:15.679pretend I'm on the show. I'vewatched US season. I've watched this like69300:56:15.079 --> 00:56:19.559show so many times, and everysingle time, I'm like, wait,69400:56:19.639 --> 00:56:24.519I can't understand how these people arelike getting married and engaged in two weeks69500:56:24.599 --> 00:56:28.000and they haven't seen each other,Like it just blows my mind. Every69600:56:28.000 --> 00:56:34.960single time. I'll never like understand. I will say, me and my69700:56:35.079 --> 00:56:38.599man basically the side of we're gettingmarried on our first date. So this69800:56:38.760 --> 00:56:45.519was like if anyone wouldn't understand,it's us because like we've experienced it obviously69900:56:45.559 --> 00:56:47.400not on the show. It waslike a real date, but still it70000:56:47.519 --> 00:56:50.559was like the same kind of thingwhere we're like, okay, like we're70100:56:50.559 --> 00:56:52.320definitely getting married first date, that'sit done. And we've been like you70200:56:52.320 --> 00:56:58.039know, inseparable since and nothing haschanged, and like it wasn't like as70300:56:58.039 --> 00:57:02.719many I guess difficulties. But alsowe weren't always hanging out with our exes,70400:57:05.079 --> 00:57:07.639and you were able to see eachother, and like I would assume70500:57:07.960 --> 00:57:14.039your conversation was like going a littlebit further than like I like shuk Chuka.70600:57:14.280 --> 00:57:17.400Oh, I also like shuk Chuka. Let's get dot com from my70700:57:17.440 --> 00:57:24.599favorite couple. It's my favorite coupletoo. But at the beginning, I70800:57:24.679 --> 00:57:28.960was just like, really, that'swhat's you're like? First of all,70900:57:29.119 --> 00:57:32.480done when he said his favorite Bodukaalmost fell off the couch. I was71000:57:32.719 --> 00:57:38.440excuse me. It was like what, I did not expect this. No,71100:57:38.599 --> 00:57:43.320I didn't know a man and shedid not either, so that's why71200:57:43.360 --> 00:57:46.280she was like, oh okay,but she didn't even know what he looked71300:57:46.320 --> 00:57:51.119like. So no, but hisvoice, his accent, like everything was71400:57:51.199 --> 00:57:54.639just funny and like you know,like he's such a like cowboy and it's71500:57:54.679 --> 00:57:59.039like adorable. And I do thinkthey're super cute together. I think she's71600:57:59.199 --> 00:58:02.400gorgeous, like yeah, she's doneit donning. I think they're like the71700:58:02.440 --> 00:58:06.760one couple I'm rooting for the mostI know. I feel like they're the71800:58:06.800 --> 00:58:10.480most like normal and they're just likehave the least like you know, issues71900:58:10.519 --> 00:58:15.840and the least like toxic relationship.It was, um, what was I72000:58:15.840 --> 00:58:19.760going to say? Like I likethem, and I really really really liked72100:58:19.960 --> 00:58:23.559um Matt and Colleen the Ballerina.I feel like they really match each other.72200:58:24.519 --> 00:58:28.119I hope they work it out.I hope they're able to like stay72300:58:28.159 --> 00:58:31.159together because um, they I feellike they like look so good together,72400:58:31.800 --> 00:58:37.519almost like brother and sister. Theyhave like the same vibe. They're both72500:58:37.559 --> 00:58:44.679like it's superficial and like shallow intheir relationships. So mad is such a72600:58:44.760 --> 00:58:52.559sweetheart, is a sweetheart, butmy heart, Like I feel about her,72700:58:52.719 --> 00:58:57.719like he was just like all aboutlike looks and stuff, and she's72800:58:57.760 --> 00:59:01.559like obviously, as she says herself, fairy shallow. So I feel72900:59:01.599 --> 00:59:07.920like they kind of like matching there, like immatureness in their relationship a little73000:59:07.920 --> 00:59:14.280bit. He's definitely more mature thanshe is. But I feel like I73100:59:14.280 --> 00:59:20.079think she's going to go and flirtwith Cole based on what I've seen her,73200:59:20.199 --> 00:59:23.679like saying that she's attracted to him. Okay, that was attracted to73300:59:23.719 --> 00:59:28.440her. That was not cool.That whole conversation was not cool. Okay,73400:59:28.679 --> 00:59:31.239you cannot go and sit and tellsomeone when you're with someone else,73500:59:31.280 --> 00:59:35.199engaged to someone else, that's like, oh, in the real world,73600:59:35.280 --> 00:59:37.360if you bought me a drink,I wouldn't say no, like no.73700:59:37.639 --> 00:59:42.400The same with partise with Nancy.I was, oh, my god,73800:59:42.639 --> 00:59:47.199get me started. I wanted tokill him with that conversation when he's like73900:59:47.920 --> 00:59:52.559we're both like the heads looking inthe room, like who I like?74000:59:52.639 --> 00:59:57.920I said that I disagree first ofall, and then he he had the74100:59:57.960 --> 01:00:01.400audacity to be like, oh,you know, you're like happy that I'm74201:00:01.440 --> 01:00:06.559being honest though, right, It'slike she was in tears and she's like74301:00:06.719 --> 01:00:14.199right, My mind was blown.How someone could think that's okay all of74401:00:14.239 --> 01:00:15.880that. Um, I was sofurious, and you know, and she74501:00:16.039 --> 01:00:21.440just kept sitting there and she neversays anything, and she never like calls74601:00:21.519 --> 01:00:24.039him out, and it's so sadbecause she's such a catch and I think74701:00:24.079 --> 01:00:29.079she's she's so cute and he's literallysitting there and he's like, hey,74801:00:29.360 --> 01:00:31.119you're like basically the ugly one.But it's okay because like I love your74901:00:31.159 --> 01:00:36.639personality, Like that's what I wouldbe, like, Okay, bye,75001:00:37.000 --> 01:00:40.400I'm gonna go find someone else exactlylike it was like, you know,75101:00:40.440 --> 01:00:44.880I love that Raven wasn't even entertaininghis ship. She was like me,75201:00:45.599 --> 01:00:52.719I'm good. They those two actuallydeserve each other the most because they're like75301:00:52.039 --> 01:00:59.320the most superficial people ever. Ithought it was really funny when she was75401:00:59.360 --> 01:01:02.320doing jumping acts when he was pouringhis heart out and that was amazing.75501:01:02.920 --> 01:01:07.599Girl was like checking her fitbit andshe didn't get enough enough calories for the75601:01:07.679 --> 01:01:10.400day, and she was like,I gotta do a few more jumping jazz.75701:01:12.320 --> 01:01:15.960Like yeah, she's stunning, butI feel like she needs someone to75801:01:16.079 --> 01:01:20.239make her a bit deeper. Andlike, you know, let's self absorbed75901:01:21.039 --> 01:01:23.079and he needs to grow up.He's definitely too young to be on the76001:01:23.079 --> 01:01:27.760show. I'll tell you that.Oh his age is definitely showing. He's76101:01:27.800 --> 01:01:29.880like, oh, I'm so masure I'm ready for kids. No,76201:01:30.000 --> 01:01:35.159you're not, You're not. Likethat whole conversation was so rude. It76301:01:35.239 --> 01:01:37.360made my blood boil. I don'tknow how she didn't like slap him in76401:01:37.400 --> 01:01:40.199the face. I don't know likehow she walked out. It was just76501:01:40.239 --> 01:01:44.320like if someone said that to me. He The whole thing was a backhand76601:01:44.320 --> 01:01:49.039and compliment, and then he keptstaring at Raven every time. He's just76701:01:49.079 --> 01:01:52.679like her. Oh my god.The editors of the show did her by76801:01:52.760 --> 01:01:59.559having the editor where she's just likeeating the entire time, Like wow,76901:02:00.840 --> 01:02:05.760that was amazing. She's eating herlike bacon wrapped scallops. She's like living77001:02:05.800 --> 01:02:10.039her best life. I mean sheshould not have. I mean it's wild77101:02:10.079 --> 01:02:15.280to me that the first night togethershe starts going on and on about the77201:02:15.280 --> 01:02:20.079giants. God, that was notokay. I'm like, okay, this77301:02:20.159 --> 01:02:22.599is like, oh my god,please stop too much information. Please.77401:02:22.639 --> 01:02:24.280You guys are in the bath together, Like what is going on? I'm77501:02:24.320 --> 01:02:29.400so so disgusting, And he wouldjust like kissed her to shut her up77601:02:30.400 --> 01:02:34.440so you could see what was goingon behind his eyes. She was like,77701:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.840oh no, I've made a hugemistake. That is not a conversation77801:02:37.880 --> 01:02:39.360you have on the first night.No, no, no, save it77901:02:39.440 --> 01:02:45.280for like ten years down the roommaybe never, maybe never, Like this78001:02:45.480 --> 01:02:49.880is not necessary. Like I don'tknow what she was thinking. Honestly,78101:02:49.880 --> 01:02:53.119I think she was maybe so nervousand like uncomfortable and just like k excited78201:02:53.199 --> 01:02:58.559that like she was like word vomiting. People do that a lot. I78301:02:58.599 --> 01:03:02.159was getting like a second and embarrassment. I was cringing, I was turning78401:03:02.199 --> 01:03:05.480red. I was like, ohmy god, how is this happening?78501:03:07.119 --> 01:03:10.719Other than that second time in thebath. Other than that, she was78601:03:10.760 --> 01:03:15.400great. Yeah. No, shewas so like when I at the beginning78701:03:15.599 --> 01:03:19.480in the pods, like she wasthe one that I was rooting for me78801:03:19.559 --> 01:03:23.679too, because she was so cuteand so sweet. Yeah. I loved78901:03:23.679 --> 01:03:29.880her and then um my heart wentout for her and Matt who was like,79001:03:29.920 --> 01:03:34.719oh, I married my high schoolsweetheart who then got pregnant by someone79101:03:34.760 --> 01:03:37.760else. I was like, excuseme, what's going on here? Yeah?79201:03:37.760 --> 01:03:40.159I was like, that's so sad. I was like, he's so79301:03:40.239 --> 01:03:44.280genuine, so sweet, and he'slike, don't hurt me. And I79401:03:44.360 --> 01:03:49.400just hope Colleen does not hurt becausewhat she did with Cole already wasn't cool.79501:03:50.360 --> 01:03:54.840No, I don't trust her.She's why she's on the show,79601:03:55.119 --> 01:03:59.719Like, why do you if yousay you don't want a relationship, that's79701:03:59.719 --> 01:04:02.199series is why are you on ashow about getting married in two weeks?79801:04:02.239 --> 01:04:13.239To be an influencer? Obviously,to get yeah stupid, you can tell79901:04:13.280 --> 01:04:19.000who's there to get verifying and who'sthere actually find love. But she has80001:04:19.039 --> 01:04:24.480a very successful career as a balletdancer. If you didn't know so well,80101:04:24.519 --> 01:04:27.559if I didn't know, she definitelymade it obvious. And she also80201:04:27.639 --> 01:04:31.880let everyone know that she's very flexiblein bed. It just like reaked of80301:04:32.000 --> 01:04:36.199her insecurity, showing like, letme just try and signal that I'm like80401:04:36.400 --> 01:04:43.400fit and like hot in shape andflexible so that you don't have to realize80501:04:43.440 --> 01:04:47.079that my personality is ship. Justbeing a ballet dancer is apparently my whole80601:04:47.079 --> 01:04:50.199personality. It is, And thenall the guys are like, oh my80701:04:50.280 --> 01:04:55.239god, oh my god, it'slike relaxed. You're on a blind dating80801:04:55.280 --> 01:04:59.559show, Like if you wanted looks, you'd go on like too hot to80901:04:59.599 --> 01:05:02.000handle or some ship, even noneof them are probably hot enough to get81001:05:02.000 --> 01:05:14.880on it. As much as Martizthinks he is dying, Um is that81101:05:14.960 --> 01:05:19.440everyone? No? Well, Imean I love sk I think sk is81201:05:19.480 --> 01:05:25.039so sweet. Oh well is socute, But he needs to realize that,81301:05:25.119 --> 01:05:30.800like that relationship is just not good. Probably getting played. Yeah,81401:05:30.159 --> 01:05:34.480like if the first night after youguys get engaged and you're like spending the81501:05:34.599 --> 01:05:39.480night together, you are on oppositesides of the bed. I think that's81601:05:39.559 --> 01:05:43.840like a huge red flag. There'sjust no chemistry. No, And she's81701:05:43.840 --> 01:05:45.440like, I don't touch I don'tlike to touch people. I don't like81801:05:45.480 --> 01:05:50.079to touch anyone. And I'm like, mmmm, that's not something you can81901:05:50.119 --> 01:05:54.800like change. It's either there,it's not. Well. She just like82001:05:54.920 --> 01:05:59.920has a type right, like agym, like meathead bro like the fit82101:06:00.000 --> 01:06:02.199spill dude. And by the way, Bartis is not it because he doesn't82201:06:02.199 --> 01:06:06.360even look that big. So Imean, I know that was her reaction.82301:06:08.119 --> 01:06:13.400She said, Bartis here. Ican't stand them anyway, see them82401:06:14.079 --> 01:06:23.360between him and Coal, I meanhe's worse Cole and yeah, I so82501:06:23.719 --> 01:06:29.239okay. Weirdly, if they workout their communication issues, I actually see82601:06:29.280 --> 01:06:33.320them working a little bit because he'sjust like playful, like puppy dog,82701:06:33.400 --> 01:06:38.960and she's like very serious. Solike their opposites can attract, I think,82801:06:39.039 --> 01:06:42.280and like he'll bring out the morefun side of her. She can82901:06:42.320 --> 01:06:45.480make him grow up a little bit, be a little bit more serious,83001:06:45.559 --> 01:06:48.599get some furniture in his house.I don't know how I can wait their83101:06:48.639 --> 01:06:55.000apartments. I can offer how you'rea real estate agent and you don't have83201:06:55.239 --> 01:07:00.960furniture, Like, isn't that alsomakes sense? You were her though,83301:07:00.119 --> 01:07:04.000and you watch the show back,like the few episodes we've seen, would83401:07:04.000 --> 01:07:08.760you want to be with someone whokept going up to literally every single person83501:07:08.880 --> 01:07:11.840and saying I'm not physically into her, she's not really my type, but83601:07:11.960 --> 01:07:16.480I love her. No. No, it's the same thing with like,83701:07:16.719 --> 01:07:20.480I'm sorry, what are you thinking? What are you doing? She's gorgeous83801:07:20.679 --> 01:07:26.079first of all, and it's socute. I mean, she's a little83901:07:26.119 --> 01:07:28.480insecure and passive aggressive. I'll giveher that. She's a bit of a84001:07:28.519 --> 01:07:32.400downer, yeah, but Cole isalso kind of like a dick to her,84101:07:32.440 --> 01:07:35.719like when he started chack off whenshe was taking on holding up and84201:07:35.760 --> 01:07:39.719he was like, you look sodifferent. I wash my god, Nony84301:07:39.840 --> 01:07:45.199did not. That's not even funny. That would have been came over for84401:07:45.239 --> 01:07:50.519me packing my bakes. You're you'redone packing my makeup? I'm gone,84501:07:50.880 --> 01:07:58.679see how I can't believe I wastedthis makeup on this guy. This reminds84601:07:58.679 --> 01:08:00.320me when I was younger. Iwould like every time I would like start84701:08:00.320 --> 01:08:03.119sleeping over at a new boyfriend's house, I would always just wake up early84801:08:03.159 --> 01:08:09.280and put on my makeup and pretendI just oh my god, oh this84901:08:09.639 --> 01:08:16.920this frankly applied lip glass, thiswater profileliner I don't always like this happened85001:08:19.079 --> 01:08:24.640perfectly and teased hair where it's justlike a little bit messy. I felt85101:08:24.760 --> 01:08:27.319for saying it because she was likethat, do I really look different?85201:08:27.399 --> 01:08:30.720Like he literally brought her confidence downfrom like a tent to like a negative85301:08:30.800 --> 01:08:34.479five in like a second, andit just stayed down there, Johnning,85401:08:34.479 --> 01:08:40.359and she looks an She's so beautiful. She literally looks the same with makeup.85501:08:40.439 --> 01:08:43.159She's like, you know, likea bombshell. I saw some scenes85601:08:43.199 --> 01:08:45.720from like the next season, nextepisode, and I was like, whoa.85701:08:45.000 --> 01:08:47.680She was wearing some sort of corsetthing and I was like, gorgeous.85801:08:48.560 --> 01:08:51.600Yeah, Like she's so like,you know, obviously he knew she85901:08:51.640 --> 01:08:55.279was going to be exotic and beautiful. I mean, her name is super86001:08:55.319 --> 01:09:00.319exotic. And then he's like,my favorite my type is Colleen. Um,86101:09:00.359 --> 01:09:05.439why I'm dying. I mean,clearly dating your type did not work86201:09:05.479 --> 01:09:09.399out for you. That's why you'reon this show. So embrace what you86301:09:09.520 --> 01:09:14.479got, especially because what you gotis beautiful. Like it's so disrespectful I86401:09:14.479 --> 01:09:18.199don't think I could ever overlook thateven if they did get married. No,86501:09:18.520 --> 01:09:24.920there's no way. I don't thinkI. So the last season and86601:09:24.960 --> 01:09:27.960the first season, there was likea lot of people where I'm like,86701:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.399Okay, yeah, they might getmarried. But this season, I'm like,86801:09:30.520 --> 01:09:34.920I don't think anyone except for Brendanand Alexa will get Yeah, exactly,86901:09:35.239 --> 01:09:39.640I'm feeling, and I feel like, honestly they should do. If87001:09:39.640 --> 01:09:43.279they do, it won't last.Yeah, they definitely won't. They're all87101:09:43.359 --> 01:09:45.520really immature and there's a lot ofinsecurities in this group, a lot of87201:09:45.560 --> 01:09:50.079immaturity and a lot of like youknow, damaged from like being cheated on87301:09:50.279 --> 01:09:54.399or this or that. It's justlike a lot of it, like negativity.87401:09:54.560 --> 01:09:58.359I feel like they could, likeNetflix should provide them some relationship coaches,87501:09:58.600 --> 01:10:00.319like they do on like a lotof first sit There should be an87601:10:00.359 --> 01:10:04.760in house therapist, yeah, becausethat's what they need, like ten days87701:10:04.800 --> 01:10:09.960to get married. And you're like, these people suck and they need to87801:10:10.000 --> 01:10:13.760grow up. Yeah. At thispoint, most of them don't even seem87901:10:13.840 --> 01:10:16.960like they should get married. No, they like they need to work on88001:10:17.000 --> 01:10:20.720themselves first. For sure. Icannot wait to meet like the friends and88101:10:20.880 --> 01:10:26.039family. Oh my god, thoseare my favorite episodes. Yeah, the88201:10:26.079 --> 01:10:31.039family does not hold back usually.Oh my god, Alexis family looks like88301:10:31.039 --> 01:10:38.640they're terrible frended. It's so excited. I do love that she's like,88401:10:38.720 --> 01:10:42.840you know, so beautiful, soout and proud about her culture and just88501:10:42.920 --> 01:10:45.159like and he's like embracing it all. And I was like, Okay,88601:10:45.319 --> 01:10:49.800that's cute. So cute. Yeah. No, they seem to like match88701:10:49.840 --> 01:10:56.560each other so well, and likethere's definitely a chemistry there and they're like88801:10:56.760 --> 01:11:01.159they seemed committed to each other whenthey were like about and there was all88901:11:01.199 --> 01:11:04.399the other people, you know,like a lot of people were looking at89001:11:04.399 --> 01:11:09.680everybody else. Yeah, they didnot know we're here for each other.89101:11:10.279 --> 01:11:14.479Oh my god. They literally everyone'slike, oh, well, i'm a89201:11:14.560 --> 01:11:16.520childhood too so and so, butI chose so and so or like this89301:11:16.560 --> 01:11:19.199is not my type. And theywere just like no, I love them.89401:11:19.199 --> 01:11:25.680They're great. I love her.She's amazing. Yeah, I'm getting89501:11:25.720 --> 01:11:30.920like Lauren and camera and energy,Oh my god. Same yeah, which89601:11:30.960 --> 01:11:34.920honestly the only example why the showworks. Everybody else is a train wreck.89701:11:36.079 --> 01:11:40.840Oh god, I'm so excited forthis season though, like, I89801:11:40.880 --> 01:11:44.520just want all the episodes now.I want to binge it already. I89901:11:44.600 --> 01:11:46.680know. I hate that they keeplike not releasing them all at once.90001:11:47.720 --> 01:11:51.199I know they just released like oneor two more and then like another in90101:11:51.239 --> 01:11:56.840November, like may always leave youon such a cliffhanger in the end.90201:11:57.239 --> 01:12:02.039Yeah, I love a Nick lashand Vanessa just come out with like these90301:12:02.039 --> 01:12:08.720figures. Oh they're so good.Oh my god. I would love to90401:12:08.760 --> 01:12:12.359host one of these shows. Atfirst, like the first season, I90501:12:12.439 --> 01:12:15.199was like, why are they thehost? But I kind of love them90601:12:15.239 --> 01:12:16.840for it now. But they're kindof funny the way they like do jabs90701:12:16.880 --> 01:12:21.720at each other. Yeah, jobsat the characters too, or the Country90801:12:21.960 --> 01:12:27.039show. Well, so now thatwe're done Real House, have a Beverly90901:12:27.119 --> 01:12:32.560Hills. Is anything else coming back? Now? So we have to recap91001:12:32.680 --> 01:12:41.640Winter House, We have to doPotomac and the new episodes of Love Is91101:12:41.640 --> 01:12:45.239Blind which will be coming up.So there's when is Miami coming out?91201:12:46.800 --> 01:12:53.479That's really like another Yeah I don'tthink for like another month. Okay,91301:12:53.520 --> 01:12:58.359fine, I guess we'll recover fromthese. Yeah. I mean I'm just91401:12:58.479 --> 01:13:01.279like happy my Wednesday and it isnot going to be like three hours of91501:13:01.359 --> 01:13:10.439television now because it was like KardashiansBeverly Hills a lot. At least now91601:13:10.479 --> 01:13:14.079it's only two hours. Well,I guess we have a month until I91701:13:14.119 --> 01:13:17.239started going out and stalking the realhouse in Miami, all around Miami.91801:13:19.119 --> 01:13:26.039I love that for you. Thereis Real Housewives of answer Dam coming,91901:13:26.159 --> 01:13:30.920so I was that. Yeah,but I think it's in Dutch, so92001:13:31.319 --> 01:13:38.399I don't know if I'll be watchingbecause like I'm not a subtitles literally girly.92101:13:38.720 --> 01:13:42.479Yeah, I just can't. It'stoo much reading for me to work92201:13:42.479 --> 01:13:48.119on your Dutch. I don't knowif it's the language that you just like92301:13:48.399 --> 01:13:54.960pick up. Well, on thisnote, I guess um we'll be finishing92401:13:55.079 --> 01:13:57.920up. I'm going back to bedbecause I don't know if you guys can92501:13:58.000 --> 01:14:01.279tell, I'm under the weather,so I'm just like a grandma. And92601:14:01.640 --> 01:14:08.399I will also be going to bedbecause it's who I am here in Asterdam.92701:14:08.640 --> 01:14:12.479Let us know your thoughts. Thanksfor being with us. I hope92801:14:12.479 --> 01:14:15.279you loved gossiping with us. Seeyou next week. By Besties