Diana vs. Garcelle, Jen vs. The US Court System, Kim vs. The World

0:00 Hi, you're listening to My Reality Says podcast, brought to you by My Therapist Says. We're here to discuss everything pop culture, influencers, blind gossip, and of course reality TV. We put the tea in reality. On this week's episode, we're going to be talking about Bravo Con, Reheelhousewives of Beverly Hills, Realhousewives of Salt Lake City, and Bling Empire. Let's get into with besties. I'm Gina, I'm Nicole, and we're super excited.

0:41 There's so much that happened on this week's episodes. I mean, go ahead and Nicole get us started. I mean, Christmas basically came early. We have Bravo Con this weekend. I'm so excited to see what goes down. We're going to get some new announcements. Some new franchises are maybe being announced. We all the Bravo leberties interacting. I'm so excited. I I actually have a little bit of fomo that I'm not there though, Oh my god, next time we have to go. I'm obsessed. I can't believe Kathy Hilton finally got her CONGA line. I am so happy for her. I mean, like her prayers were finally answered, we're here for it. She looks so happy. Ashley Derby was like loving it also, Teresa Judais.

1:27 It was the best clip ever. I think everybody loves her, and I think after I guess watching this season, everybody just wanted to like support her and be like, hey, let's have fun. We're down for a conga line, Like why not? I don't know why they were so anti conga line, like just let Kathy have her fun um a little that they're not into it. They were just hating honestly, like there was no reason for that. They would just mean to her for no reason, so rude Lisa, and I was also booed at Bravo con. I am not surprised. I mean, she kind of asked for it. She was also giving the middle finger to the crowd. I'm like, that's on you, okay.

2:14 Last week, he said Lisa Minna's and her villain era. I don't know if she ever like got out of it, but she's like leaning into it hard this time. She's looking for it. I think she realizes like that's her identity now and she's just going for it, full throttles, running with it. Uh. She's like I know you all hate me, and I don't care like f you. I'm here. I'm a truth teller. But is it actually working for her though, because there's some rumors that Andy is going to be firing her. I mean he actually was asked that during Bravo con I saw tonight and he was kind of just smiling. He didn't really give an answer, but I kind of feel like she won't be asked back.

2:58 I mean, everybody hates it right now, but at the same time, all the drama revolves around her, so it's true, like there would be no drama without her. It's exactly. And I feel like every season, the one that creates the most storylines is the most hated because like she just gets on everyone's nerves, whoever it is. And he didn't say, like, I'm not, like, what's going to happen, So he just said wait until the rest of the reunion airs, so like maybe like something's going to redeem her. I don't know, are we getting an announcement at the end of the reunion that she's gone. I mean, I will be happy my wishes will be answered, but honestly, I am tired of her, Like we need a break it's too much. It's too much, and I don't even know if, like what she's going to do after this.

3:46 I feel like she'll be freaking out that she's not a housewife. I feel like her whole identity is now being a villain houselife. Are people still going to be buying her lip kids? Was anyone ever buying her lip kit? Though? I don't know, I've never seen questionable questionable? Um, that's amazing. Wait are they dropping the trailer for Real house Hose of Miami on Sunday during the Miami Panel. I'm so excited for that and I cannot Oh my god, I can't wait. Like I've been obsessing over the Miami Housewives that season that Peacock. It was amazing so much only on Peacock. It should be on regular television. They should be giving that season everything because those girls they are giving, oh they give the drama. They are bringing it.

4:39 But I do think it was like a test run because I guess the first edition of the show didn't do so well a few years ago, so now they're like, listen, we're not going to bring you into like whatever Primetime Bravo, like, let's test it out on streaming. See how people like you and people loved it. They keep requesting it for to be. People are obsessed. I mean, it's better than any other show that's on about right now. I mean, I love Beverly Hills, but I feel like this season I was a little underwhelmed. It's draining. They need like some new problems, like some new storylines. Yeah, I kind of felt the way that I feel about Real Housewives of New York. And apparently Andy is going to do some announcements this week about Real house Wives of New York.

5:20 I mean, we've heard the rumors that there's going to be two separate um shows. One that's going to be the younger influencers and one that's going to be more of the o G. So what's going to happen with that? So excited, Like we've obviously heard some hints and some names being dropped. I cannot wait to hear the confirmations because I think that's gonna be something new and exciting because like we're used to obviously older housewives, and I feel like they keep making them like a little younger and younger every like rendition in every city. So it's like really interesting to see like someone like maybe closer to our age, like navigating this whole thing. I agree, But at the same time, I love like the interaction of the young and the old together. I think it should just be one show. They get some more younger people, but they keep it just one show. I mean at the same time, like I have so many shows to watch, Like can I really be a young version and an old version? Like, I'm no, they should mix it up. I don't get the two versions. I think it should be one. But I mean, I guess we'll see what they say. But like, speaking of interacting of the generations, um, Kyle and Crystal at the reunion, Oh my god, they didding heads and the whole like Crystals and millennial. I do feel a little bad for Crystal.

6:38 I mean, I think she's misunderstood. She can't really like articulate herself well. And I think they the girls don't bring the same energy towards Crystal, that they don't get the same energy that they're giving Crystal to the other girls. Basically, So that was my question, are you team Crystal or team Kyle in this interaction? So I thought the whole fourteen Friends drama is actually so stupid, like fourteen friends and we know what if your fourteen friends dropped you, I would want to know the tea. I'd be like, what did she do? Whose husband did she sleep with? Like what's happening?

7:18 But I'm saying, like Kyle is getting mad or everybody's getting mad at Crystal for saying, you know, like the dark thing about later actually not actually saying what. She's like insinuating that there's something dark, but she's not actually saying it. But meanwhile, Kyle is kind of doing the same thing. She's like, oh, yeah, all these fourteen friends are saying something about you that doesn't have to do with the show, but I won't say And on the reunion she said it. But then they went to commercial and I was like, well, I'm waiting are and they didn't adjust it. So well, I feel like a little not the same thing. I feel like you're wrong, that's not the same thing, because suddenly are both on the show, the fourteen Friends aren't. That's like the Hills neighborhood gossip. I know, but it keeps being brought up. So if it's going to be a storyline on the show that they keep bringing up, you might as well address it, and the same thing is happening with um Eric or what lie Serena is saying, because she's saying, you know, Kathy saying, is saying all these dark things, but she's not addressing it either, So exactly saying this to Crystal but not to everybody else. I know, she's like taking a page out of Crystal's playbook. And I do think that like they're just like making it overly dramatic, like on this I'm honestly d percent team Kyle because Crystal really bothers me, and I feel like she's so dramatic and she's just trying to make like, you know, something out of nothing and like as triggered as she might have been whatever like either saved or like shut

8:50 the funk up, Like I don't get it, Like basically at this point, making Suton look so bad unnecessarily while now claiming to be her friend. Like if you were like now friends and liked her now, you'd be like, hey, like actually I was like, you know, upset, I didn't mean it, blah blah blah. I agree, But I mean, I just think they're not giving the same energy to everybody else. It's like kind of unworking about ganging up on the younger girl, and I feel always to her in that sense, and I feel like she really did have a tough time this season with her like eating disorder stuff, and I mean, I feel bad, she confided and to Read and Read said it. I thought it was fair game because everybody knew like me, but she said like more details that she didn't really say on camera to other people, and it did feel like a little bit gossipy, is what I thought. But I feel like maybe there is no if you're like in this big group of friends, right, And like, for example, if I told you something and I didn't want like Lola Nora to know, I would tell you, hey, between u us, like let me tell you a secret, not like or like hey, like I don't I don't like talking about this, but I'm just feel comfortable talking to you. I would appreciate it if you didn't mention it to people like that. To me would be like, yeah, okay, Like if somebody didn't say that kind of disclaimer, I would be like, hey, we're all friends here, it's fair game to bring it up. Yeah. But at the same time, the way the tone that

10:24 in the way that she brought it up, was kind of like yeah, and kind of gossiping about her, making her like look bad. I don't know. I I think I thought it was like a little sensitive she was if she was you know, if she asked Crystal maybe, I don't know. I thought, yeah, that's like it's really like sensitive, tough subject where I feel like if you're just going to be blagging about it, you better have the person's like discreet permission. I get it. I also think Crystal was having a really hard time this season, um finding a storyline. Oh yeah, Like at this point, I'm like, why is Crystal.

11:07 They're like, what is the purpose of Crystal? Because there's no storyline and her like one thing she was trying to go with it that she's a sensitive millennial, which honestly makes me like embarrassed of being a millennial because she gets triggered by everything, and I'm like, please, like stop, how l A can you be like I just like like that guy? And I understand that no one said anything like offensive or racist or whatever, and she was just trying to like push it out of you know, like I feel that when like, yeah with Sutton, what the comment that Sutton said about the hot top comment. I was like, Okay, that was just like that was an awkward comment. Like it was just like nobody asked this. It's like I didn't know what she was trying to say, but she was saying in such a clunky, like awkward, older woman way that she was trying.

12:00 Yeah, she sets things a little bit wrong, but I know she doesn't have Yeah yeah. I mean like I'm pretty sure she's not racist. I feel like she liked didn't mean anything bad by it, but like Crystal just went off on her. And I feel like Crystal was just looking for like one of these older, out of touch ladies to like trigger her, and like she just like keeps going and like finding reasons. Yeah. I know it is a little bit over the top. I agree, but I do feel for her, just like seeing them all getting up on her and they're like, you know, freaking out about her word usage, and you know she she's really bad out articulating herself. She just like breaks down and cries, and I feel like bad she was crying. And then like it was kind of weird because like they were like, okay, so then you admit what you were saying is like over the top and dramatic, and you should have taken it down a notch without like, you know, kind of like making Crystal like a Sutton's character like looking so bad, like you're basically assassining your character. You're making her seem like she's like this horrible, racist person that says dark, terrible things that you can't even repeat. But then it came out that she literally didn't even say anything. It's just the way she found like that's not okay. Yeah, it was that I thought it was not okay. But what was interesting to me is that Sutton was like me and me and Crystal have totally like hashed this out over we're we are, we're good, and everybody else was like, no, but you shouldn't be good, like they wanted the same and Kathy yeah, yeah, like

13:35 they don't want people to move on because they need something to talk about obviously, and they need like you know, they want someone else to take attention of them. So they're like, hey, Crystal sucked up too, we should getting up on her. It's not just me. But speaking of Kyle and Kathy, some unseen footage came out where Kyle was saying that she was relieved that, Uh Lisa was, you know, bringing this out and talking about how Kathy is you know when down. Yeah, exactly. So that's interesting. I didn't really expect Kyle to, you know, not have her sister's back, she seemed I did, but not in this sense. I do think she's happy that, like Cathy's like quote unquote dark side is getting exposed now because, like I think in the clips she said, that's what I've been dealing with forever, and in many clips actually many of the interviews, she said that this is the side of Cathy I've been dealing with and my family has been dealing with for like many years. So I feel like their relationship is so complicated and they have so many like feelings and it's just like hot and cold, and like there's just years and years of trauma clearly.

14:52 So, I mean, I think they had a bit of a toxic upbringing from one I heard with Big Cathy and every thing, there's a lot of drama, sister drama always and competitiveness. Yeah. Well apparently like Big Hathius to basically like rank them and tell them, like which one is her favorite at the moment allegedly. So I mean that will automatically create some issues between your sisters. Yeah, it's true, and like you know, they're all obviously super like obsessed and like Mr Mom so much, and like she clearly was like the glue that held them together. I feel so I feel like but also the thing that tears apart exactly. But like a lot of mothers do that. It's like a very toxic common trait, especially when you have like daughters. I find that a lot of I've seen that a lot.

15:48 So it's just like you can't help but be obsessed with your mother and want her approval, but then like it comes at the expense of kind of competing with your sister, which should never happen in the perfect world. Yeah, and I think Kathy, sorry Kyle, grew up actually being like the sister that wasn't in the spotlight as much, you know, yes, yeah, I mean Kathy had her amazing marriage and like you know, marrying well, and then Kim was like a movie star, so exactly. Kyle was kind of just like maybe shafted in that sense. But I feel like now she's living her best life and she's like, hey, look at me, I'm successful. Now I have an amazing family, like you know, I'm your equal, and I feel like she wonders why people don't view her as that. I wonder if she gets jealous that Kathy is now like the favorite on the show, that everybody is obsessed with all of Kathy's like jokes, and you know, she's like she was like a fan favorite when she feels the moment every time. Yeah, so I wondered getting a little bit of that jealousy back, and maybe that feeds into the drama too. I do feel like there's like so much unseen footage, and honestly, I wish there was a show like just keeping up with the Richard sisters because like, oh my god, would be amazing. Like there's I feel like every day it's a different thing with them, Like even on social media, you hear, you know, Kathy saying we're good. Then you hear Kyle saying we haven't talked in the last month or two, and it's just like you're getting all

17:21 these different sides of the stories, and I'm like, what's going on? Are you guys good or not? Did you see the comments they were making on each other's posts where Kathy was like, I don't know why she's crying. I was the one like victimized and bullied for ten months. And then Kyle was like, I don't think you want me to say why I'm crying. You know why I'm crying. And I mean we saw the clip of the end of the reunion and that did not look like it ended well between them. So I mean, I'm so excited to see what happens next week. It looks like it's going to be insane. I do fact like Kyle, Oh yeah, same, I think she will. I mean, it's crazy to think that she's just a friend of and she there's so much drama around her, and she brought so much just being a friend up, so I'd be surprised if they didn't bring her back. She's got that queen energy honestly, Yes, the best commentary and just like overall iconic behavior, just like a comedic relief. Also, like the Hunky Dory thing was hilarious, Like everything she says is so ridiculous, but that it's so funny but also like harmless and like you're like, how are you real? Like I love you, I want to hang out with you exactly, Like she would just be such a good time. Okay, who is your best dressed at the reunion and who's your worst? Okay, So I just have to say I was not impressed with the reunion fashion this year. I mean, I think they all look like they're going to different events. Where was the theme?

18:53 I don't understand, um, But I would say my favorite best would be Dereat and my least favorite would definitely be Kyle's out said, I don't know what was going on there with like the LeMay and the buckles. I was not in it looked really cheap. Also, I am kind of partial to Kyle's brunette hair, Like I just like, don't really love her with highlights. I feel like she's just such a beautiful like you know, I agree like hot brunette that Like, I just like her hair is such a big part of who she is and like it's such a signature for her that I just like don't love when she changes it. Same. I I completely agree her hair is like so healthy and shiny. Yeah, I completely agree.

19:44 I did love to Read's hair, Like, I love her hair amazing. That's why, just because I was like, her hair is always amazing at ra means, and her hair was so good. You don't pay attention to her outfit. You're just like you don't know what you're wearing. The hairs and the makeup is amazing. She always brings though. I just think she's so beautiful and I'm obsessed with her. Um but my favorite I think look was um Garcella's. I love that little black dress with like the blaze situation here and like the Yeah, it just like was something I would actually wear in real life. And it was like something so nice and like she wasn't trying hard. It was just like very I don't know, it was chic.

20:26 I loved it. I liked it, honestly. The rest of them were not so memorable, Like I remember Lisa Reynis Look. I think she looked beautiful. Actually, I love the hair. I love the Dolce like she looked beautiful. I didn't love it. I think she just looks like a sugar mom in it. She does, but like, I mean, prefer anything to her regular haircut. So I love meg on her. I love the wigs, and I think it's better. I think she could have done better. I think it's better than like her like trying to wear the Balenciaga Kime Karashians things, so that no. So to me, I'm just like, I'm I think doll chase way more. You. I love it, but I mean I wouldn't call her my best dress. It was a little boring. So I do think Garcela looked amazing, and I do think Kyle is probably my worst, which is like normally I love with Kyle was, but like that dress was such a loss for me, Like it was just like like I feel like the color probably looked amazing in person, but on camera it just like looked weird. She looked so cheap candy rapper.

21:29 You know what's interesting, Um, if we did a pull on my reality says who has the best outfit? And actually Crystal one, which I wasn't expecting. I kind of was just a little bored by her outfit. I don't remember what she was wearing. That's how forgettable it was to me. Yeah it was um that neon yellow like long long sleep dress. Yeah, yeah, I mean it was fine. I was just like, I wouldn't chase it as my favorite. Crystal's fashion style is not really something that like stays out to me or that like I ever think about that. I never noticed what she's wearing, because I don't think she's known for a fashion I don't think she's a fashion e girl. I think she looks beautiful all the time, like she always looks good, but like it's nothing like crazy memorable you know to me? Yeah, I mean that's like half the reason why I watched the Housewives is to see like the crazy fashion, to like have the yes and so I get a little bored sometimes seeing crystals outfits. Yeah, they're like very just like nothing to write home about. They're just like a very basic something like you know, what would all wear. So I just feel like she's like very um understated as a person, like her taste.

22:38 So I just like don't think I mean, she does have amazing birkins, but like are just like very simple, which on TV is not necessarily memorable compared to everyone else is over the top stuff, right, Okay, Um, So then moving on, because like that's didn't miss anything else that happened. Oh sorry Diana and Garcela, Oh my goshs on that interaction because that was like insane. That made me so angry that Diana somehow making it about herself, and you know, she uses her excuse Oh in my country, Um, you don't we you don't understand what would happen in my country.

23:26 This would be a real death threat. So is this not a death threat? What they said? They said they're going to be kneeling on her son's neck. How is that not a death threat? The way she was trying to minimize it and make it about herself when it was about a young black child I thought was disgusting. I don't think it's at all comparable to like a war refugee from like you know, Eastern Europe whatever, Like they're both traumatic experiences, and they're both like, you know, experiences obviously experienced by like a group of people, but like it's not your place to just like even talk about it, Like I don't know it was a death Yeah, And do we think she's behind the bots because we don't want to get one of those seasons exists. We don't don't get seasons exists. But I think the only reason why people are so convinced that it's her is because who else would care to stand up for her and be like leave Diana. Yeah, I don't think she's that popular, like any fense, Like I just I don't think people care, and she just came on as a bully from the beginning and she never stopped. I felt really bad for her dreaming or the fertility miscarriage moments of like you know, like vulnerability, and she felt so sad for her and like obviously it's the traumatizing experience, but like she was still so mean to everyone all the time. She was evil like necessarily,

25:02 and she was going the way she was going after Garcel on social media, and I don't know, I also think she fully did not have COVID and the way she was looking fresh as a daisy. She had a glam squad there. Actually she posted a story with her glam team unmasked, So if you have COVID, I don't know why you have a glam she had COVID. I thought it was just like she was she had a flu or like she was. No she confirmed that she has COVID. Oh that's weird. Yeah, when your glam squad is there un mass interesting and you look amazing and obviously as good as always, I mean, I mean she was sick for like a lot of that season, or sick like like showed up or did they edit her up? Well, remember I mean, she was like in the hospital bed or whatever her like thing was, and then she showed up took herself's birthday, so UM eloquently questioned, So like, clearly Diana knows how to like get past whatever issues she hasn't put on a show and look amazing. Yeah, that's true. Um. I also thought that she was reading off cute cards. She kept looking above, and I was like, it's your public They're like with a gun at your head. What's going on? It was so like robotic and just like it could also be the English thing that she was like trying not to season exists and like seeing

26:36 things properly. I don't know. I would give usually give her the benefit of the doubt in that scenario, but the way she was looking up really and her eyes were like moving as if she was reading, so it didn't think there was some kind of teleprompter situation cute cards. I don't know. I was really upset for herself when she started, like she got so emotional and she just like you know, like looked like she was about to cry because it was about her child and it was such a traumatizing thing to go through. It like the first first week of high school. Like the whole thing was terrible, and like Diana is just like, yeah, well it happened. My family actually died, so whatever. Can't you feel bad for her for one second? And the way that Garcel was so calm and composed during all of that, Like if that was me, I would be screaming, yelling, I would storm out. I hats off to make Carcel because she's queen and she's such grace. Yeah, and you know people have stormed off before for less. Oh yeah, I mean Kyle is going to leave before the cheers. We saw that, like yeah, oh yeah. I mean people just like don't care. But like she was really keeping it in and she was keeping her cool, and she was like an amazing professional as we know that she is. And I think, um, I feel really bad, and I do hope she figures out who has been going after her

28:07 own social media. I think she will because when it's a death threat, the police got involved and trace it. So I'm actually really interested to figure out its hate, what who it is. I mean, sure it is for the benefit she said, maybe she just paid for it, but she didn't tell him what to say, and they just took it from there. I mean, still horrible because it's a child that you're attacking. No matter what you're saying. It was heartbreaking, Like it was just not cool and it did not make like honestly, Diana did not convince me that it wasn't her, and the fact that she was so like concerned about herself, saying like why didn't she wipe out my name? I was like, this is a child, You're an adult. Why does why does she need to be thinking about you when her child is being attacked? And then Kyle to step in. I was like, what's going on here? Kyle, like just sit down. Immediately her face it was like she was like, I agree with where is this energy defending Kathy when Kathy is getting attacked? That's what I mean. It's like a little group of like you know, Kyle, Lisa, Rinna and Erica and Diana because she's like, you know, brought in as Lisa Rinna's friend, so like they're all just kind of stuck up to each other and like back each other up, but like they don't like back up anyone else. Like it's very obvious at this point, So I feel like maybe the producers do need to spice up the cast and kind of

29:40 like divide group. Yeah, it's like they're just cannot let anyone in. That's what that'd the impression I'm getting, Like it's very high school. Who do we think they're gonna let go? Well, probably Diana because she's like don't love her and I feel like she doesn't want to come back either, which I mean good riddance. Yeah, she probably wasn't expecting to be so like disliked, and I feel like it's probably not good for her reputation. And she doesn't seem like she can handle the hate, So I feel like she maybe does not have like the emotional like um bandwidth to be on a show like this, And I don't think would want to keep up all this like social media hate of her, and legal issues because she keeps throwing her lawyers involved in getting them involved in everything. So yeah, I think Andy's going to say goodbye to her for sure. I don't think he likes her either. When he when she was talking, like his face was like disgusted of her. Honestly, Yeah, I feel like she's just not doing a good job trying to be likable, Like she's not likable. She's not trying she's just like always trying too hard to act like she's better than everyone, which comes along like it comes across as very like insecure, as opposed to like, oh, you're boss bitch, Like Cathy is cool without trying and everyone knows who she is and everyone knows she's like amazing and you know, has all these resources and this wealth. But then like with Diana, it's almost comes across as like, while you're trying really hard, like nobody cares,

31:14 so show offie and obnoxious is going to come back because I feel like she also has she's not conflict and with everything that happened in the last episode and what may happen at the reunion, I don't know. I don't want to be back. I want, but I feel like if she's not, would be on her own terms and like she would just be like I'm done with this. But I feel like maybe she would want to come back to kind of like maybe have like a different give people a different like side of her, yeah, and just kind of like make up for like, you know, whatever perceptions people might have now after this whole thing. Maybe to redeem herself is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, exactly I really hope she does come back. What do we think about to read because a lot of people say, you know, she doesn't really have a storyline anymore, and a lot of people have been questioning, and she's actually going to be brought back. What do you love her? I think I would miss her if she was let go. I think she brings a lot she I mean she made it with the whole like the best, the most funniest parts of the show this season, war the toothless and now oh my god, and then exactly like she makes the show fun. She's like one I tune in for. I don't tune in for like necessarily the like the dark drama.

32:40 I would rather just like laugh with the read and be like, oh my god, she's so funny, like how she exhausted by the drama sometimes, like the finale and the reunion already is exhausting me a little. And that's how I feel about um Crystal. I just feel like she's draining, doesn't bring anything fun onto the show and doesn't really like I haven't hasn't found herself on the show. So I feel like if they got rid of her, I don't think anybody would miss her. Yeah, she doesn't really fit in well with the group. I don't think they meshed with her. I mean she's really close with Carcela and Crystal, but even then Carl and Sudden are sorry Carcela and Sudden, Yeah, they're like they're like a little trio.

33:25 I think, Um, I maybe it's only because they're all kind of like alienated by the core group, so like they goin to have to stick together. But I don't see them naturally like being friends. Like it's weird to me, Like they don't really I mean, there was the drama was Sutton and Crystal in the beginning, but now they said that they've moved on from that in their goods. That's because they're both very like good people, like nice people. They're bigger people. They're always like, you know, do like the like they let things go. They don't like, yeah, are not like Lisa bringing it up a thousand times and shoving it in your face.

34:05 Oh my god. Yeah, she's like once she sinks her teeth into something, she doesn't let go and like I can't I'm tired talking about her. I just feel like I can't wait for this next episode. Is it a two or three? Part reunion. Um, I think it's just two parts. I'm so excited, like I can't wait to see what happens because I'm just I hope they start fresh. I mean I do hope they keep a lot of the same people, but like I do hope they started different issues, Like something needs to be changed up. They need to forgive each other and move on, because it's getting very like Housewife of New York style. Yeah, it's that when you're like rehashing the same drama over and over and over again, it gets boring for the viewers. We want to see something exactly more of the homeless, but not toothlessly these yes, Okay, So what did we think of Jamie Lee Curtis showing up. I thought their reactions were so over the top. They looked like they thought Jesus came into the room. I was like, dying, dying, even like the Twitter reactions were so funny because they're like, Wow, Jamie Lee Curtis did not expect to ever have anything to do with this ship show, and now she's so somehow I can shoving it because it's helping her charity. She understands their star power, and she understands that they're like, okay, like we need

35:36 to like she. They bring a lot to her charities and to her movies. I don't think anybody cared about Halloween movies before, Like they weren't really up there with like like Texas Chains and like all these other like you know, scream, Like they weren't really like called favorites until Kyle kind of like restarted the franchise. Now, yeah, exactly, and now it's on Peacocks, So yeah, you can see that it's like being pushed a little bit. Yeah, so she conveniently showed up when it's releasing being released this Friday. So I mean, I love City Curtis. I think she's a good sport. So I'm enjoying her on it. I do hope she comes more often. I feel like it should have been like a watch What Happens Live segment though, because I was kind of like, I want to hear the woman talk, not really Jamie Lee Curtis, you know what I mean.

36:35 It's true, It's true. I mean afterwards, I watched What Happens Life with Kyle and Chloe Moretz and I was dying because I had no idea Chloe Grace Moretts was such a fan and she like knew everything all the drama, had openies on everything. It was amazing. I was like, well I missed it. I was like, okay, can we be friends and talk? Can we have her on the pod? Yeah? Like she was amazing. She was so passionate about to too. She was like, oh my god, Crystal said this, and then like Runna said this, and then I like what she wore. And I was like, oh my god, amazing. Okay, if you're if you ever want to come on the pod, Chloe, my heads, this is our invitation. Yes, calm, discuss the tea with us, please. Um So, any last before we move on from Beverly Hills, any last notes that you want to discuss.

37:30 I mean, I know there was a whole Li Sarent and the cancer Institute, which you already talked about last episode. I mean, I'm just happy they said that and put her in her place. Yeah, honestly, I'm done with that. Um I think that's all I have. I actually do want to talk about what I thought was so weird was Kyle sending the thief money. Oh my god, what is she doing? Why isn't she going to the police, like what is open in here? I think she just really really wants her sentimental pieces back, right, and she's just like please, like I can't replace that, Like insurance will not replace those things. So I think for her it was like whatever I'll pay, just like give me those irreplaceable pieces, which it sounds ridiculous and makes me so mad it makes my blood boil, honestly, that like she's still even giving him money, and like, you know, the whole thing. I hope she gets her stuff back, do Yeah. I think I was a little bit like scared for her though, because she's kind of opening herself up to further burglaries and extortion, because anyone could be watching and be like, oh so if we rob her, she's not gonna call the police. We can just you know, get money from her and get her stuff back. Well, speaking of that whole thing, it's like all these women are on TV, they were like all these amazing things, like everyone knows the kind of stuff they have, and yet none of them have security outs at their house at night, like it doesn't make sense. And they're having been so many rock investing

39:04 in security, Like I don't get like regular security is not going to do it, like you need someone parked outside of your house. I know people that have a lot less that have that, Like I don't get it, and it can be that expensive. It's like the one they need what Anna from Bling Empire, Yes, that's what they need because like obviously all these people put themselves out and open themselves up to risk, and they're on a show. People know where they live and lay super unsafe right now, so like why would you not like protect yourself and your children, like it's so well to me, it's pretty stupid actually, And they're always posting live on stories too. Yeah, it's like very scared for them. I don't even post my real whereabouts and I don't know. I feel like that's like the first rule of social media. I know, like real life people on Instagram like get robbed a lot, and like you know, they don't even show their faces. They just showed like they're like you know, purse collection or whatever, and like people still end up finding them and robbing them. Like it's scary. Yeah, no, it's terrifying. I hope they invest in some security and uh be a little bit more careful. Yes, speaking of Anna shay Um, can we briefly discuss Bling Empire because I know we're only like on them. Yes, all the episodes are out, but we've only benched like three episodes so far, so we'll finish it this weekend. But like, so far, it's been really fun. I found another villain.

40:40 It's such a fun show because it's so over the top and ridiculous and like they go, they make Beverly Hills look like nothing exactly. I love it, Like the levels to this is amazing. So I have a new villain that I love hate and that's Caine. Oh my hate him so much. He was a little him. Yeah, Like I know he's like the one because I feel like without his ship Stirring, it would be a very very boring show. So he's really starting all the drama and he's making the show. But it's so frustrating to watch because I'm like, oh, you're being such a bad friend. I think he gets off on it. Like at that lunch, wasn't even mad at Christine that He's like, you know, she's a liar. I love that called it so she knew he was stirring.

41:31 And I love that doctor to like stepped in and like stood up lost cut. It was so cute, Like that's like how her husband is supposed to have your back, Like it's amazing, Like I love that a family. They're so cute, And I feel really bad for Christine. Honestly, I feel like everyone believes her and comes at her because she just tries a little hard. But I don't think it's like a little bit jealous of lifestyle. Like when ing that Christine is jealous of her, I was like, of what you and you're like Dad's money. Christine is more wealthy and has like in her life and she has her family, her cute husband. What is she supposed to be jealous of? So I don't think that. I think Christine does have a jealous streak, but not so much jealous, more like insecure. So it comes across as jealous of everyone because like the first few, like it was a one season or second two seasons, she was like, you know, she was trying to compete with Anna, and it was coming across as really try hardy. When she's like, oh, this is Lebaton high jewelry, this is kind and this is that, and people are like nobody asked, like calm down. Everyone knows they have money.

42:44 Body if they keep proving and it's very Diana energy. I think she humbled herself a little bit, so I think she got so much better. Yeah, I love Sorry, sorry, um, I was gonna say I love Anna, but I was a little upset in the first episode when she brought Andrew to the party. I was like, what are you doing those guys? He's abusive, he's horrible. I hate him. Why are you bringing him back into Kelly's life? Like, deal with your own ship with him, but what are you doing bringing him back? And not without even telling her? That was so fucked up. I hated that. I think that was shady. I think that was unnecessary and like, who are you to do that? Like it was just not cool. And I do feel like she's struggling a little bit this season to have a storyline. I just feel like he doesn't know what to do with herself. It's like that whole scene of her sneaking out of her house, what is going on here? It was so ridiculous, and like Kim is just like just as ridiculous, And I feel like those two are lacking storylines. Yeah, I think Kim also wants to be best us with Anna. Some of those shopping springs and then it goes on. Yeah, the way these people give to each other is ridiculous. Yeah, like I could never I mean, I love that when you have it, you share it, that school when they do it for each other. But like at this point, it's almost like people have like

44:19 like bad reasons to be friends with someone. It's like they're like fake at this point, just to get gifts. Like I wouldn't trust the genuineness of these people, and there's such like over the top gifts that if I was a friend, I would feel like indebted to the other friend and I wouldn't want to accept it. No, it's true. It's just like especially like you know, we know they're not like really like that close in real life. I don't think. So, it's just like kind of like for the TV show, it's a little ridiculous, but it's a lot of over the top gifts that are unnecessary. I think it's just like so far, the main storyline is that everyone's versus like hates on Stein and kind of bullying her for no reason honestly, but whatever she said or didn't say, but like what she said if somebody told her that she has every reason to react the way she did, and like it's not up to Kane to go and tell everyone that she's like a fake bit who cried and said Anna was abut to get her, Like, I mean she, I do think that came from Jamie. I do think she's like, yeah, yeah, you do.

45:23 I do. I don't like her. She sends that you don't. I don't have an opinion on her. Honestly, she does seem a little bit cheap, but like like a fun way, like a very high school way. I don't get her. I don't like her. Yeah. I think I think she's jealous of Christine. She's trying to start some drama. Um. I feel like everyone is at this point kind of jealous of Christine, Like it's weird, Like Kelly, I feel like it's being a very loyal friend to Kane, which I don't know if she deserves it yet or not so far, like they seem to genuinely friends. The whole dating app thing though, I was like, Okade, isn't she mad at him? Like he's saying that she wants to do threesomes and stuff publicly on I would be so angry. I didn't understand that at all. She was just like like, that's so funny. I'll still go on this date and be from the game. I would be like, okay to lead that right now, are you. I didn't think that guy was hot, like I thought he was great for her. I don't, like, I'm sad that she didn't really give it a chance, but I'm proud of her for, like, you know, taking time to heal. I mean, I don't think he was the right guy for her, though their lifestyles are very different. He was he was a little weird and the whole like not paying on the first date thing maybe Oh my god, laugh, I'm like, what is going on

46:54 here? I was dying because literally I was watching it with my boyfriend and like he was like half watching, like on his computer or whatever. And then at that moment he like literally his head like did like a three sixty, and he was like did he just not pay? Just like children sitting there like looking at the bill, sowd did this happened? I was like, I guess it did. And then it was so weird that he flew out all the way to Cabo but he wouldn't pay the Ramen bill. It's like, yeah, did production pay for this what's happening here? Because I know he didn't not on his budget. Yeah, he was giving some energy for sure. I feel like Key wasn't a fan. No, no, I wasn't a fan of that at all. It's true. I actually didn't pay attention to that part. I was like, I just like blanked during that part. I feel like I was traumatized. And then also I was like, he's seems weird for like being I guess I guess when he saw her in person and got to know her. But I feel like it was if a guy was coming on a date and he knew that he was talking to another guy the whole time, Like, wouldn't you as a guy I want to leave the date. Yeah that's literally what my boyfriend was saying.

48:20 He's like, wow, so he was catfished by this guy and he's like cool with it, Like it doesn't make sense. But yeah, I guess he was a track he needs job, he just wants to be on a show, let him be, or maybe he wants to show your mama. Yeah, Like, I mean I get it, he has his agenda. I think, Yeah, I have to give it to Kelly for seeing right through that. I mean, I'm just glad she's moving on so exactly. Okay, Um, before we run out of time and this podcast goes for two hours, let's talk about Salt Lake City really briefly because it will come back to a blink empire once we're done watching. Yes. Wow, this episode of Salt Lake City was so chaotic. I had to like step back after watching it. I was just like, wait, what didn't I just watch what just happened? We had woman throwing alcohol down each other's hands, then going on horses in the same outfit, which I'm just like, Okay, that is like an infection waiting waiting to happen. What's going on here?

49:32 And then we had a party of them all in lingerie, cooking and yelling at each other. I was like, what is going on here? With me? Growing in a thong was my favorite? You know what is going on? Or get that image out of my mind? I didn't I want to say that with a group of girls who wanted to be naked with each other, like it's kind of weird to me and like to be dressed like so sexy and like it's just for like the five girls they're like it makes no sense to me, and you're on national television like in this situation coming up, like what's going on? Like, I don't get it.

50:15 It was like a really shitty Halloween. Yeah, I was very over the top. Um. I was like, is Jen Shaw okay? She looked like she couldn't breathe and that course that just trying to get all the glamor out before jail, just trying to outfits. Um. That was a very traumatizing party. And you know what, I think Whitney stirs up Ship every season, every event she starts Ship like she just cannot be her mouth shut. She got like she gets drunk and she turns into Nancy Drew and started causing all this drama. I'm just like, okay, girl, put down the tick. Heal us, like, let's not do this. Everybody was having a good time until you're just like, wait, I can't keep this to myself. It's honestly keep it to yourself. Drived that. I'm like, are there producers in your ear telling you, hey, now is the time to start it. Everyone's having too much fun. Start it now, because like it doesn't like the blue it comes out of nowhere and you're like Whitney, Where did that come from? You just said literally three people just told you don't bring it up, and you're like, hey, guys, let's bring it up. So let's sit down. Let's all this guys.

51:35 You said this, You said this, like do you talk shit? I'm uncomfortable the things I was saying and that were said to me. First of all, all of last season Angie was your best friend. You were like hating on Lisa, and now you're throwing Angie under the bus for Lisa, Like what then is going on? And then she's also saying that she never brought up the jazz tickets call right, and I'm like, you did. There's footage of you saying that's Meredith. I honestly think she cannot be trusted. If she was my friend, I'd be like she the snake, like yeah to faced, Like I don't know if she just wants like to keep being involved in these storylines so they never fire her, or she just like is bored, Like I don't get it. I think it's because she's going through so much ship and she's like taking it out in the worst way possible.

52:23 It does seem like it. Actually it's very like Lisa, I'm going to attack sudden because my mom died energy. Yeah, that's exactly are And it feels like she's like getting black out and just like causing ship and I felt not a good look. No it's not. I felt really bad for Lisa Barlow because she was like, whoa where did this come from? I did not expect she was so blindsided. Yeah, she was like genuinely hurt and she was like pissed off. My favorite, though, was Heather's commentary throughout all of this. She's like, Heather was the MVP. I wasn't courtside tickets because I would have done a blowy for that. I didn't know this nugget. I would have given a blowy for a Burger iconic. I think she's the funniest person on that show. I love her, and I do love that Mayor Deith actually went into Lisa's room to explain herself, and I feel like that was very kind of her after everything. She felt bad for her. I really hope they just move on from this drama because it does seem like it's a little bit repetitive, and I really love them as friends. So let's forgive, forget you guys both called each other, of course, who are having an affair financial situation, So let's just call it a day, and it's a mystery for both. Otherwise we're going to see this drama throughout the whole entire season, and I think I'm gonna stop watching

53:57 if that happens. I'm getting four two tears with the same stuff. They need to move on to something more interesting and like invite new people because like this like Little Circle Jerk is like too incestuous at this point and like there's nothing new coming. And I actually laughed because after that episode, like I actually googled, like what does Meredith Mark's husband do? And then like what does all those husband do? And those are like very popular searches, like did we want? No, it doesn't make sense, None of it makes sense. A mystery. Yeah, I'm like, okay, so it's a mystery with both of your Like how both of you have money is a mystery? Okays, a mystery. For Whitney, it is, Oh my god, please, I can't stand it. I'm dying to see her uncover that mystery and be like before we can eat, let's talk about this. What is your husband do? Yeah? God, I was dying that jen Shaw.

54:59 Somehow in this episode, it's the most Yeah. I was like, okay, so the one who's going to prison is the most normal. But then she started crying out of the blue when everyone's out, and she's like, what about me? She had to make it about herself. I'm like, nobody said anything about you, doesn't Like She's like, this is supposed to be my jail party. What's going on? This is supposed to me party? Screaming and crying before jail, y'all stealing my thunder. She looks so happy right now on social media. I'm like, girl, do you know that you're going to jail? Like how long is she going to jail for? Like what's happening? I forget that she's going to jail because it's so like nonchalant, and her court date keeps getting prolonged. There's rumors that it's going to be prolonged again. I think it's now in December, but yeah, people are saying that she's trying to get it prolonged even further, just get it over with though, Like yeah, like how long would she be sentenced for? Like I wonder I've heard rumors that it's going to be like around seven years. That is a long time. Really I would put along that too. I mean, though, if it's going to happen anyways, get it over with pull a mystart, you know? Oh my god?

56:19 Yeah, seriously, like do it with like dignity, I guess yeah, um two words for you do your boots? Oh my god. The fact that she was explaining her do your boots to the horse riders, I was like, they did not give a funk about what she was saying. And she's like, do you know that these are vintage? Do your do you know? Do you know? I think she planned that whole trip just for the boots. I was laughing so hard, like it was so funny to watch, Like I recognize what she was referring to, but like I don't think anybody cares. Yeah, ho, Lisa, I love her, but it's giving um black empire. Yeah, which, by the way, I forgot to mention what we're talking about. The one part that was so hypocritical to me was one Kane was like, Oh, everywhere like Christine goes, she's always like, oh my god, designer this designer that as if he doesn't do the exact same thing every he he was like talking about it is jacked last episode that we watched, and we think he says, it's always like about labels and designers and like just like that's all they care about, and like, I'm sorry. Yeah, Christine brings it up a lot, but like so do the rest of you. Yeah, it's giving.

57:40 These glasses are oh my god, can be as iconic as that, but like, yeah, even like was Jamie and Anna like arguably two people born into like insane wealth are still like omegand it's that vintage Galliana and one time, like nobody gives a fuck okay comment, Yeah that was really annoying. Like you can be into fashion and it's actually giving suttons for a season, but she's like Dolce Tour runway, dolcha if it's not runway, I don't want to She was just as unlikable because like nobody cares and she stopped doing it and everybody loves her. Yeah, so if you're a housewife listening, don't do that. Like you don't have to be relatable, but you don't have to be insufferable. Like you can love session. I love it the way Dorry does it because she is the most like extra and always wears labels and everything. But she's not like, never talks about it, never talks about it if anyone else talks about it, She's always just like, oh, like, it's just this little thing whatever. It's just like a whole lu baton. But it's not a big deal, as she should like it shouldn't be a big Her style is amazing. I think she also carries herself with class most of the time. Like I never felt like she was like, oh my god, please stop, Like she doesn't make me cringe.

59:13 Agreed. Yeah, she's never like too overly dramatic. I mean, unless she's talking about wind chimes, but that's a foll other thing. It's so charity doesn't count. Yeah, No, I love, I do, really love to eat. I think she's becoming my favorite. So yeah, I mean I think Carsala is my favorite still. But okay, should we move on to the Kardashians. Yes, okay, so really quickly. Not a lot happened to see this episode. I mean it was um Chris I guess wrestling with her mortality, which was very sad to watch um, and then it was like Kim's having sex in honor of her grandmother, which was it's like, we get it, you have sex, you don't need to bring it up every two seconds, which is kind of the vibe I'm getting from Kim and Courtney nowadays. And I honestly feel like him is a sexual or something. She's just like into herself, so it makes me cringe when she talks about sex. It's giving I lost my virginity. You can't sit with us, like it's very middle school, right, yeah, like, Okay, everyone has sex, nobody cares, like, we don't have a details.

1:00:30 Why are you thinking about your grandma during sex? Also, like I don't know, like someone who was so traumatized by the sex dape and doesn't want her children to identify her as like you know, or like have those connotations about her. Um, why are you bringing it up? Yeah? We want to see interactions with her in Pete, but not those kind of interactions like save that for the bedroom, save that for the Beverly Hills hotel that stays there. Like it doesn't really seem very like Jenny. When I don't know, it comes across as like, oh, look, we do have sex. Oh my god, we're trying so hard, like we're a real couple. Yeah, it's very awkward. I did not love that comment.

1:01:14 I don't. And then Travis and Courtney are now talking about edging and he has a song coming out about edging. I'm just like, Okay, I didn't love the t M I for me, Yeah, you didn't invent that, so sit down. But also keep that in the bedroom. Yeah, Like, I just don't understand the constant need to like talk about your sex life, especially if you're married then together. Like everyone knows you have sex and you're happy and you're cute. Anybody loves it, But like, why so many details? It's too much comment and let us know? Does anyone care to know these details? Like only ones who don't want to know? Yeah, please let us know. Yeah, Like, I just want to know if there's value in that, like if there's a reason why they keep you ring. I mean I think it's also like a little bit of the shock value factor for them. It gets them in headlines, I think.

1:02:07 But at the same time, nobody wants to know, um, but I do want to see. Actually I don't want Courtney to talk about her sex life. I wanted to talk about her work life because I want to see her go to work the show, Yeah, like talk about your work ethic, because that's more interesting to me because like, I don't everyone like in first that she doesn't have one, So I'm just so curious. Yeah, and oh my god, the Variety interview, did you see how when Kim was saying the work thing, she was kind of looking at Courtney. I thought that the whole time when it came out, I was like, oh my god, they're like fully looking at Courtney, like yeah, okay.

1:02:47 And so did you also notice that they took out the part where it says it seems like nobody wants to work these days? They totally took out that part because I think it sounds worse than they like, get your stup in work. They completely edited out as if like we don't people. Yeah, but I mean, come on, everybody knows, like it's a huge meme. It was for like she was like, um, feeling like really thrown by it from like I don't know. I just felt like her reaction was like why, like what do you care what people are saying? Like, yeah, people are going to pick apart everything you say for years, like everyone knows that. I don't know how she was so shocked. It's so out of touch though, So I mean, how can you be shocked?

1:03:36 It's like I just like, I mean, she was like traumatized by this whole PR disaster, and it just was kind of refreshing to see that she cared so much. Yeah, No, I think I think it got to her for sure, because she was like, I don't know if I'm built for this anymore. But I didn't get the apologetic side of her that I thought I would see when she was going to be taught talking about it. So yeah, but she didn't really like apologize well because I think she stands by her comments maybe, which I don't think her comments are that bad if they're in context, like if like she's like, obviously I'm not talking about every woman, but like you know, I think she Her explanation was that she had a point, but like it didn't come across because you're saying something like that and general what you come from, you have to be careful about what you're saying, because I come across in a bad way. I wasn't bothered by her comments because I thought she was talking about it in relation to her family because they do work a lot, and like, yes, their work is like, you know, different than most people's work. It's not like a nine to five that makes you want to kill yourself. But it's like still like I watched them, like I watched their days. Like on social media, you can tell what time she wakes up, what time she goes to bad She's always posting, She's always promoting something. She's always like launching new things, like she keeps adding onto her busy staff, like you know, Empire. So like, yeah, you can't say she's lazy.

1:05:09 She works a lot, and I think what she means god lost in translation. I I don't think she's lazy at all. I think she does work really hard. But what she's saying is basically like you can do it too, almost, And it's like not everybody has the same exact resources that you have a platform an ability to launch her billion businesses. Yeah, it did. That part was automatically going to come across poorly. I think she thinks that if I made it, anyone can. But like, okay, well, my best friend wasn't Paris Hilton, my stepdad wasn't Bruce Jenner, my dad wasn't one of the biggest lawyers in Hollywood. I do think they kind of gloss over the nepotism part just because her dad didn't give them any money, but like he gave them, he gave them a name, so like it's still a name is a lot were still they were still like well off though, Yeah, exactly, So that's what I'm saying, even though in their minds, like I was actually gonna say, like, you know, do you remember reading like the Kardashian Confidential. They're like biography from years ago, and like all their like interviews after that, they're basically saying how like they were like you know, basically not the cool rich ones and Beverly Hills. They were like the more weezer family because like they didn't have as much as like the Hiltons or the richies or whatever. And I'm like, okay, well, being like the less like wealth the least like not the

1:06:41 least wealthy in Beverly Hills is still being more wealthy than anyone else else. You're still the one person money. Like just because you have this like like chip on your shoulder because you were like maybe like you had to be paris as assistant does not mean closets. Yeah, that's when you started from the bottom. Yeah, yeah, I know it's very out of touch, but I mean it's hard to I feel like it's hard for them to get it because that's just like it's just the reality that's what they were born into. Exactly. It's kind of like what Hayley Bieber was saying and like her like last interview, she was also mentioning that she was born into this famous family that is not like she can't do anything about it, you know, and then she married the superstar. Like sometimes you can't be relatable even if you try. Yeah, I mean Kathie Hilton not relatable and doesn't try to be amazing. She just like kind of owns it and she's not trying too hard and she's like, oh, this is not in my universe. I'm not going to try to go down exactly. Well, um, I feel like this week there was a lot of like stuff that got started that we need to like finish watching and like see other episodes to like continue I guess making forming our opinions about it. So I can't wait to do that next week.

1:08:00 Yes, I'm so excited. We're gonna watch some more Blink Empire. There's gonna be a new episode of the Kardashians. There's another Potomac episode out. We didn't even get to that today, but we're gonna get to that next week. Um there's another Beverly Hills reunion episode Salt Lake City. It's gonna be a stacked week. And then there's just like all the other pop culture stuff that happens, So they're gonna be busy, get excited. Yes, I hope you enjoy their second episode. Let us know your thoughts. As always, let's talk in our d m s and we'll see you next week. Yes see you guys by besties. Hope. I love gossiping with us an a