Good, but too long

Fan of this show but 2 suggestions for improvment : 1) It would be great if Shann can speak less/more concisely: his chiming during interviews often prevents from guests’ sharing their insights fully. 2) Sam needs to prepare what he wants to deliver before the show. Sam’ comments many times are not framed well, so a chunk of substance is missing. For the matter worse, Shann chimed in if he saw some gap in Sam’s comment. Want to hear Sam’s thought better and learn.