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July 13, 2026

Weird Science (1985) Review | Does It Still Hold Up?

Weird Science (1985) Review | Does It Still Hold Up?
Weird Science (1985) Review | Does It Still Hold Up?
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Weird Science (1985) Review | Does It Still Hold Up?

Is Weird Science still a classic… or has it become cringe? Join John and Beth as they revisit John Hughes’ iconic 1985 sci-fi comedy Weird Science to find out if it still holds up. From the outrageous humor and memorable performances to the film’s lasting legacy, they’ll discuss what still works, what hasn’t aged as well, and whether this ’80s favorite deserves its classic status.


What do you think? Is Weird Science still a classic, or has it become cringe? Share your thoughts in the comments and join the conversation! 👍


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00:00 – Intro & Guest Welcome (Beth from Made for Movie TV Podcast)

01:05 – Favorite Scenes: The Bar Scene & Creating Lisa

02:18 – John Hughes' Understanding of Teenagers

03:09 – Nostalgia Ratings (Personal History with the TV Series)

04:08 – 80s Fashion & Authenticity in the Film

07:08 – Movie Trivia: Bill Paxton’s Improv & Practical Effects

08:57 – Non-Nostalgic Review: Does it Still Hold Up?

09:51 – Scene 1: The Locker Room (Is it "Creepy" today?)

14:40 – The Creation of Lisa: 1980s Computer Logic

20:12 – Character Deep Dive: Wyatt, Gary, and Confidence

23:38 – The Bar Scene: "Do your parents give you a hard time?"

28:40 – The Mall Scene & The "Anxiety" of Being a Teen

44:11 – The "Acting Factory": Comparing Careers (Schwarzenegger, Jason Statham)

49:55 – The Missile & The Party Chaos

58:20 – Chet’s Transformation (The Giant "Turd")

1:07:22 – Final Non-Nostalgic Ratings

1:08:43 – Guest Outro & Upcoming Reviews Michael Pressman Interview

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[SPEAKER_00]: And hello, movie lovers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm open to show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So today I have my good friend Beth from the May for movie from May for movie TV podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's here to join me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're talking about weird science.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This might first time seen this movie as a whole, but she's actually got the big nostalgic for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's, she can't wait to dive into this scene by scene.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're gonna also strip away the nostalgia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we can, later on in the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So go ahead, click that like button share button and all that good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's get this party started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And A-Beth?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, John.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for having me back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're very welcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just glad that you're here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And everyone, this is Beth from me for movie TV podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So my question is this Beth?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you look at where science and this is what I'm going to be doing, I'm going to start doing on every one of my podcast episodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was one scene that you really loved about where science?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think, I mean, it's so hard to pick a favorite scene because there's so many funny scenes in this movie, but I think the scene where they go to the bar is one of my funniest and when I watch it again, I would laugh and out loud again because it's just it's just so silly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd like that scene though too, especially when you have that one character, he's over there pretending that he's drinking and he's partying with those other older men and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that scene, but I also like it like the one scene where they're both trying to figure out how they're going to make this woman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How they're going to be?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that's just the final thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that whole thing of like these nerds who are trying to fit into a society and school that doesn't, that doesn't allow them to fit in and they're, they're figure, okay, well, since I can't get a girlfriend, I'm just going to go ahead and make a woman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like the ID and the concept behind it, and we'll get into it a little later, but I like how John Hughes brings that to life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think John Hughes really understood

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it was really clear with all the movies whether he directed or wrote them or both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He really understood teenagers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he really understood like the teenagers that didn't necessarily fit in perfectly into the world that the 80s was, which was, I'm sure today there's a lot of pressure to for teenagers and maybe even more so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there was a huge amount of pressure to like really fit in in the 80s and I think this this movie really shows that and that's what I love about it and actually of all the movies because you and I have done a lot of John Hughes movies whether they're written by him directed by him or both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this one in a lot of ways and I'm sure we'll talk about it really held up more than some of the other ones that we've seen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, for me, as for someone that's seen it for the first time, myness to house it is probably going to be like a, maybe like a tube because the only thing I grew up on was the USA network TV series back in the 90s of where it's science.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just how I went, I knew that there was a movie, but I never seen, seeing the movie other than towards the end of it when the

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's like my only thing that I've seen with weird science.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never got a chance to go back and rewatch it or even like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like other 80s or 90s movies that I was really into at that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So weird science for me was not one of those movies that I wanted to say, okay, I want to go ahead and check it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I can say I can appreciate this movie in the back that I got a chance to watch it now as an adult.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for me it's way higher than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: out of ten.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay I would say for me, this was probably an eight or nine and a lot of that also has to do with how much I loved Robert Downey Jr. back then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean he was like he was he was it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or I do he was like the dream kind of teen idol.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though he did a lot of other serious work later on but um

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But also the girls, their fashion was so spot on for the 80s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I loved not least a necessarily because obviously she was perfect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the girls that they were, you know, trying to date and dated or whatever, they're what they were wearing really looked like what people teenagers really dressed like back then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's uncanny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, sometimes you see some of the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: movie's from the 80s and they're dressed like fashion magazines and not really how people dressed, but these girls really dress, actually most of the cast dressed, how people really dressed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say that too, like at least John Hughes actually knew how to dress them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You'd be from like teenagers of the 80s and modern time, because any other 80s when we would actually probably have them in other types of different clothing other than the 80s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and just like sometimes like I say like, you know, you see things even from the 90's like, like, like, let's say when you are a teenager, whatever, you watch movies from that period, you're like, that's not really how people dress, that's how they dress on magazine covers, but that's not how people really dress in real life, that's not how you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were and so for this movie, they did a really good job with that and I guess you did that all the way around and all of this movie But this one especially because I was like, oh, that outfit I love that outfit back in the 80s and I still thought it was cute

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's one thing that John here's what like you said, that's one of the things that John who does is it brings you into a time of the 80s of that time of being a kid and saying, okay, I wore this in the 80s, even as an adult is like you can fly back to that time as a youth as a young youth, but like, hey, I used to wear that as a teenager, I used to wear what Lisa was wearing or where what one of these characters are wearing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: basically going Beverly Hills.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And dressed them up to the nine, like, clueless and necessarily that the 80s was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually a really good example, because nobody really dressed like that in clueless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe they did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like you said, Beverly Hills are

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[SPEAKER_01]: some of the more wealthy, uncloths in America, but that's not how people ran around and dressed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not something that we're hearing of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with the way that they, you know, did it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just really liked that for me, the nostalgia factor in weird science was there partly because of the fashion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, there's just something about that movie that I just love this movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's so, like, I was laughing out loud and still again and I'm like, oh, how about that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's so silly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know what though, I do have a little bit of trivia on here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they'll pack some actually improvised many of the sheds, funny, and sense in mannerisms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Helping make him one of the movie's memorable characters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cheds transformation into a giant blob, like feature, near the end, relied almost entirely on practical make up in special effects, no CGI, because there's no such thing as CGI techniques, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, did they use a favor of something for him?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what that was?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say they just use regular prosthetic makeup and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need some type of pepper to your stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't not 100% sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So gross.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was so gross.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could actually feel the do-nist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like so, even again, even though you know, like it's like, ugh, it's so gross.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So gross.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So gross.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kelly LeBrock was cast as Lisa because of her striking model look, making her seem almost too perfect to be real.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was a model.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she was a model in real life, if I'm not mistaken.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's really beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what, I know that we talked about Robert time in junior and my friend movie with him in it though, too, even though he was in the mean star was back to school, Ronnie Dangerfield.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a year later, he stars and deck to school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which I found really interesting in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He also did, I think it might have been an 89 or 88 he did on less than zero, which is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a tough movie to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never go around to sing in that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm trying to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it's really, really a tough movie to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now that we talked about this, this is statically now that we broke that down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're going to go and ahead talk about this movie on this statically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Have you ever thought you'd know what life, what my life is missing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: a supercomputer creating the perfect woman after two socially awkward teenagers hack into a government network.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the answer to yes, congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, either seen where science or you probably need to clear your browser history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Night, Beth and I are diving into the most gloriously ridiculous movies of the 80s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It, it's got, brought on people's heads,

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[SPEAKER_00]: mutant grandparents and somehow all this makes perfect sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So grab your favorite 80 snack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't try this experiment at home unless you want the FBI knocking on your door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless you have the important question, that's where science still hold up or should this experiment have stayed in the lab.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is movie lover's lover's unite and we're getting weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, same line, in the official suburb of Shemerala, and Oasis, nearby social outcast, Gary Wallace, Anthony Michael Hall, and Wyatt Donnelly, Ian Mitchell Smith, are publicly humiliated by Ian Ian, which is played by Robert Downing Jr. and Max, Robert Rouser.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After they are seen, it's winning over two girls who happened to be their girlfriends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the way that this opening scene was,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was not expecting it to be in the locker room and then they're just over there just watching these women in the locker room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I never seen like a joint locker room where the guys are able to go into the locker room like that because I don't know if that really existed at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that might have been just for this movie, and that is one of the few things that I felt like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that might have been a little of hit from this national left food days kind of, you know, ish, maybe was a little too adult for this movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But because it's almost creepy in a way, but it's still funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of said, okay, with the creepyness, but yeah, I don't think that really existed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, even in my high school, it would not exist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not at ours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our sort of like, actually our locker rooms were like on

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it does, I do have to say this though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does give me as a teenager of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see, imagining being with somebody, a girl that you have a crush on, and you're able to watch her through the locker room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just imagining what you would be like, maybe naked or being able to take her out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I'm seeing that these two guys are having this fantasy over what it would be like to be popular, what it would be like to have friends, what would it be like to actually have that accomplished and be with this person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Regardless of the fact that this person

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[SPEAKER_00]: They still want that whole, it's the unknown of not knowing what it's like to be popular.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like that idea of what John Hughes does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It makes you question, what would it be like to be popular as someone that's not popular?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like how he's playing into that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it actually works for the scene, but at the same time, it is creepy as four as this goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, you know, Ian winds up jerking down the juxtaport.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then they hurry up and put the shorts back up and then wear science pops up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So my mind was this, I thought they initially first start out with them making a girl on the computer and that's how it's started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm glad they didn't start it all that way because that's actually how in the wear science TV show is they give you the storyline of the TV show of how they

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I actually want to go back and launch it, but I didn't know because it was so much later than the movie I think, at least I was like in the 90s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I would have to say that's the scene that for me that doesn't really hold up them that well, but at the same time, though, I can relate to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I was a young John in my teens and having fantasies of this looking at this girl for the first time and wanting to actually date someone that's popular, yeah, this team actually works, but it also has that cringy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: not it doesn't hold up that much for the scene, but it actually is that's the tone of like, okay, now you can see why these got these kids want to make them make a woman now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, in like they said, I think a lot of that is just like a little bit of a whole not because John worked for national and food for a long time prior to becoming a filmmaker, prior to writing vacation and in vacation you can see a lot more of it, but I think in the

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to play that down because that's really for more adult oriented kind of stuff, you know, like, um, if that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's not worth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like that they had that cold opening before they started with credits and, uh, song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Me too and I think it set up the movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I just got a little bit of the food factor, but that was really the only scene.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the fact that it gives us that cold opening because it allows you to actually know who these characters are and what they're going through being introduced for the very first time, so I do like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now we're going to get into this other scene now alone, uh, let's then after that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I help Kylie and Deb away from Ian and Max alone for the weekend with why it's parents gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gary's inspired by the 1931 classic Frankenstein to create a virtual goal using why it's computer infusing her with everything they can can see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to make the perfect dream girl after hooking electrodes to a doll and hacking into a government computer system for more power, a power source creates Lisa, a beautiful and intelligent woman with seemingly endless powers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably she conjures up a

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[SPEAKER_00]: a Cadillac convertible to take the boys out to a bar using her powers to manipulate people into believe in Gary and wire of age.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The boys come up with the name Lisa based upon a field of romantic experience of Gary's that ended with Lisa kicking him in the testicles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about the fact that you know they're sitting at home, they're watching TV, they're watching Frankenstein

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[SPEAKER_00]: can you make a woman on your computer?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, yeah, I can make a woman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can actually do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they start developing this, but I'm not, but here's the thing, I don't want to cut off dead women.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we're not going to cut off dead women.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like how they do like a virtual way of actually creating a woman and trying to, and they're like, well, how big do you want

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, breast size.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you how about the legs and they're coming up with all these things and then finally they wind up, I hack in the government computer and I like how they do the even though the CGI doesn't hold up now and I even set this in hackers as what the movie hackers from the 90s they have the same type of computer formula is going around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then things like that, but it's according to how we would actually think the computers are actually going to be in the future to be able to do some of this right right and I'm certain and and quite frankly John, John huge budgets weren't that big so they thought in the event of a very big budget to create that what was there so probably it's like with the budget they had was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously we didn't have the same DJI effects that we have today and that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, I mean, this movie sort of folks funded itself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that that's a, that's a scene where it really kind of did that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, again, you have to be forgiving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think part of it is that Gary and why it are just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just like the nicest guys, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it's even forgettable that they made up this woman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so domestic, but whatever, I mean, I like this movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was funny that they ended up saying, well, we need to come, there's like a ritual that they have to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have to hook up the Barbie doll to these jumper cables.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then also wear bras over the ends for no apparent reason, we don't know just because we don't, but according to their logic, it works because it happened to be, they made Lisa because of all this, right, so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I like how they both look at each other when Lisa comes out and they're like, wait, we just did this in your right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's this innocence about them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're very nice guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just they're just nerd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are geeky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't fit into anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they only have each other's backs, even.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The brother that's played by Bell Pax and bullies the other brother, the point where he's going through serious PTSD, having to pay him all the time, being a bully at home, being bullied at school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You would think that there would be a break in between the two, but there isn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Check out this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey back later on in the movie which will get to you, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's just I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's just something so likable about them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even when even when they create, you said they're just kind of like a terrified of her, you know, well, don't forget they also took a shower with her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you know, a little bit frenzy scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's still it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is because of the fact that they're both probably versions and they don't know what exactly to do with the woman if they had one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, I don't know anything, so it's not like, you know, there's any kind of weird x-rated stuff going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's just that it's like, okay, maybe their parents taught them manners of like, hey, look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go in and share with this naked woman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to go ahead and put some pants on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not being it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the way I'm not doing anything improper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, like I said, it's that instance of not knowing what to do with a woman or she's in the shower with you because of the fact that they're both probably still versions and they don't know what to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like that instance about them where, you know, they had the pants on and you write their scrunched up like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, they're just basically, you made this woman to have to be able to sleep with her, be able to

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you're not going to do anything with her because it's all talk between two guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You think about it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they really, in the end, they really wanted to use the teenage girls anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So kind of, you know, played itself out of that way too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they weren't like, you know, I mean, I think that they think that they thought that's what they wanted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when they got it, they really found themselves more

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, it took a little while, but they kind of even then they were, they're so nervous about everything that happens in this movie, which is also funny, um, they respect Lisa, even though terrified of all the things she does because they don't know how the end is, you know, it's not going to work out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but I also like the fact, too, that there's layers of these characters between why it, um, you know, between.

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[SPEAKER_00]: between wine and Gary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they have layers as well, because they seem to like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There, these characters are both trying to find out who they really are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And trying to find out how popular he is, not the way to go about planning against somebody, be yourself, respect yourself, respect everybody around you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what this

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[SPEAKER_00]: in a lesson is, and then also do Lisa's there for a basic way if you think about it, Lisa's there to get them confidence, to be able to boost their MO, because they have no confidence in their own selves at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, one of the things I kind of on sad about this movie was in more than one scene, they said, well, we don't have any friends, but it's like, you guys are friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're good friends and you get a lot of little while and it's sort of like let's say that you guys have it but it's so strange because I guess we should probably also mention that they're very wealthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are very wealthy kids like all of the kids in this high school because Why why what some points as well the main is going for the weekends and don't make a master whatever and it's like these people have a lot of money and in a lot of communities having a lot of money means popularity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but that doesn't mean it for check and why if they're not popular.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, me too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was an interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we always see like the rich, knobby kid getting everything, especially in 16 candles with the, with the, with the older boy, the guy that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Going ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and I'm pretty in pink.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You always see the rich douchebag get everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have someone like Ducky who doesn't have anything that can't get anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do like how you have everything that you can actually imagine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Has because you're rich, your parents are rich.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the one thing you can't have is friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't buy friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't buy girlfriends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to try to be the best version of your own self and try to boost up your own confidence to get with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like that concept.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, me too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then promptly she kind of hundreds of the Cadillac like we meant like I mentioned and we talked about the bar scene.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to I was like, well, how are we going to do this, man?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not 21 and the next thing you know, you would have the IDs that changed from 16 to 21.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my favorite line in this movie is at the bar, or when they're in the bar, and Gary is sitting with those gentlemen, and they're quite a bit older, like some of them might even be older than me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like talking about how his parents always gave him a hard time, and he's like, dear parents give you a hard time, and it just goes silent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, there was so much, I laughed out loud, just don't know why that struck me, so funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like one of those jokes that like if you're not paying attention, you're been a totally miss it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like 70s, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, even, even, right, they're basically in their 70s, these guys who are basically these bluesy type guys, because there are people like people who love blues and music stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're, you're right, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, how am I going to relate to this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I don't, I've been out of my parents' house since I was 16 and here I am almost 50 or 60 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I can't relate to someone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even if you're 21 years old or living with your parents, I cannot relate to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I am, it's just so funny to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's so nervous of you're like drinking and then they're like working about driving home because they've been

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do like it when, why it turns around and he says, yeah, man, I've been, I've been trying to tolerate this one, uh, 16 year old girl, man, and I'm like, okay, that, that part made me a little frenzy because you're supposed to be 21, but you're hauling it up to 16 year old girl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's drunk and not knowing what he's saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, yeah, and, uh, this girl, and I was actually seeing this one girl, she kicked me in the

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I was dating this other girl from Canada, which I thought was kind of fascinating because you don't see a lot of 80s movies where guys want to hook up like girls out of state and Canada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could add some context to that in the 80s that was kind of running jumping back on the globe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Burms, they talk various various talks about his girlfriend he handed up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for some reason, in the 80s, when a guy could get a girlfriend, he would say, oh, I have one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She lives in Canada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know why or where that came from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that was not the only movie that I mean, that was kind of a, I want to say running joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's what people said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because how do you're going to prove that that doesn't exist?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, because the obvious thing into myself, that would be actually something that you would say in the 90s, because of, you know, chat rooms are happening during that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm like, I found that really fascinating to me because I never knew that was like a running joke in the 80s like, well, what does she live at?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Canada, I never knew that there was a running joke, but for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Looking at them like, huh, that's actually pretty interesting that John, who's actually put that into this screenplay because I don't hear a lot about that in the in the days like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So no, and that's why I thought it always thought it was funny when you I don't know if you've ever seen this show the gold birds because, but it's that it's not modern, but it's set in the 80s and so one of the running jokes in the show is that the brother Barry had this girlfriend in Canada, which he really didn't have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're like, yeah, you're go for the Canada, you know, but it was like, yeah, I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I remember that like I, that was on TV show for other things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the other member of the Goldbergs because my wife and I've been stayed about a couple years back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love the Goldbergs, but I forgot all about Barry having a girlfriend in Canada and I forgot that that was actually a joke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that show and now it's being replayed on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do like the fact where they also ask Lisa, hey, look, how did you get this car?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I can get anything I want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not stolen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you see Lisa changing the license plate because the boys just all of a sudden thought of the name Lisa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that was pretty neat on how they actually created that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just decided to name her after the next school friend

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, I don't know, I like that, that was really funny, I thought that was, I thought that was really clever, and I don't know, I just, to me, it's just so to myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But basically, they kind of made Siri, if you think about this like, if there's like a modern day thing, if you'd like Siri that they created, but I still like it, I think that it actually works out for the scene, I've been let's see here and then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: probably she conjures up okay so now we're talking about they return home drunk and happened upon shed why it's being all the brother who extorts money from him to buy his silence Lisa agrees to keep herself in from him but realizes that Gary and Wyatt while extremely sweet are very uptight and in need on wine after humiliating experience at

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a crowd of people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lisa tells them about a party at Wyatt's house, of which Wyatt had no prior knowledge before driving off any course, 928.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She conjured for Gary despite them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about the fact that they return home drunk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's the next day and shit just pops up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he comes home from talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Bill Paxon's character, I swear, kind of reminds me of this knobby army, what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Army type person, and he and I wouldn't be surprised that the father is like this is where you need to be tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to be a man, you need to have masculinity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't have masculinity, you're a win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And basically, why it is actually the opposite of why his brother is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'll stop anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the Chad Lake physically blocks them too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's some physically blocking them from going to where they want to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are it because he uses vasculine against him because he's also don't forget he's also both bigger than they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got muscles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And also to he kind of reminds me of someone that went to military school versus college.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I actually thought maybe should have had to be in the military at home for the weekend, but I don't know that he would have been able to get leave so maybe that's why they didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he must be in Roxy or whatever in ROTC and college.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got it on ROTC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That I mean more sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to me, I always write it that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they ever mentioned it, but it seemed like that to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We call it rotsy, but it's our ROTC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know, but he did, he was definitely had sort of a, a remasculine military feel about him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he also feels like he's way older than a college student.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he might, maybe he was older in real life, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just played that part because I love Bill Paxon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just played it so well because he's that's like the only one of the only times I really hated Bill Paxon in a movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is one one role that Bill Paxon is told douchebaggin is true lies with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jamie Lee Curtis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have not seen that movie in so long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even remember it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did a review on that while back, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to punch him just as all of one of the punch him for sleeping with his wife and talking about his wife's ass and everything and stuff like that so with this I wanted to punch him even harder with me he was treating why it ain't Gary and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just felt bad for Wyatt who's always just getting picked on and then extorting him from money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This guy's a told douchebag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he went into your own brother.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How can you walk them trying to buy his silence for anything he does?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to walk on egg shells.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How much rather be staying the night over at Gary's house versus being in that big old house with his brother?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm surprised they didn't, but I mean the movie would have been wouldn't have been a movie if that happened, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's especially because when Gary finds out that He doesn't even want to stay there anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just wants to go out with Lisa and Gary, and that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because now he's got three friends instead of just two friends that are there for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and then they go to the mall the next day and do space dump the slushies on him and they think it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they're like, oh, would you be mad at you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they're like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what else though?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Beth is this, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like how you have Robert Downe Jr. going down the escalator.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just as Lisa's going up and of course, is actually after that other crunchy crunchy scene to me is when she asked the old woman inside the laundry shop with this turn on a 16 year old kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm like, okay, as the 80s, I need to remember a different time, but I understand what I like about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do like what the old man says back to her, but I'm where she says, would you have also the Mashman brother go with his, you're killing me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I do like this escalator scene where you have this interaction going on with Ian and also Robert and Robert down, Juniors character and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like how they're both looking at Lisa, and they're both leaving their girlfriends to go and figure out who Lisa is and try to be hitting on her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm sorry, but if those two girls were smart, I'd be like, look, we're not together anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would I want to be with you when you were just flying over this one woman in the escalator for five seconds that's going to forget about you and who you are?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know who you were, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So why would I want to be with you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I also like how Lisa ends up doing this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She winds up smiling at them, which lowers them away from their girlfriends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she gets Gary to pick her up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's so cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just love what she does to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What you did to white and Gary is totally wrong or what you did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're having a party at Wyatt's house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what do you think of this this scene about what how Lisa is caring for them?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which like which which one can from why it in Gary when they're drunk or after or because of the what the situation at the mall is what I mean I think so I think that really kind of shows that she's not just

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[SPEAKER_01]: This thing they built this robot they built she actually really cares for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think she really does care for them immediately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though it's like really subtle throughout the movie because she's never like, oh, let me go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean, but everything she does is for them, especially the party and they don't want to have a party.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, we can't have a party level of luck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, no, we're having a party.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I mean, she does it for them, not for herself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I really like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, too, because any other film would have made her more like a robot, AI kind of robot, one dimensional Lisa has lears to her, just as white and Gary do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like how she's caring about them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it may be in the wrong ways of how she handles stuff, but she doesn't know a way that she cares for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why and Gary also cares about her, even though they, they wind up getting wrapped up into the whole whole entire thing of

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[SPEAKER_00]: in in the party and losing who they are true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I think I mean, I think she knows that she can undo anything she does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't know that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gary Wyatt don't know that which is why there's someone so tight you are the whole movie because they don't know that everything that she's doing is going to be undone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think everything she's doing is for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She wants them to be popular because that's what they want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She wants them to have the girls because that's what she wants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she really hates the juice bags as much as everybody else does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: so which is why she kind of tries to get some revenge on them as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is why she does what she does at the mall and is like you know what you guys did was wrong and like she purposely put herself there so they would like ugl her and try and come after her and she's like sorry not with you guys you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then also too she's also giving kissing lessons to white and gary and that same night when they were drunk and also

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[SPEAKER_00]: grabs why it's ass as well to try and I think everything has a purpose with this would be even though it might be crunchy to some people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a different time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna say it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a different time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a different time like there are, if they tried to remake that where we today there's some of the things that we've talked about that they probably put in put in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that was really normal for an 80's comedy back then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not trying to

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just is what it is that can't be done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is what it is and so we have to kind of go with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's a little cringy, but like I said, again, it's sort of that whole, Ashlyn Lampoons kind of thing that he was doing before that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but I also want to say this though, too, is a confident, I think she was just trying to give them confidence that they can get with somebody like her, even though it's not going to be her, but you can find a personality within somebody else within their own age, even though they're thinking that they can get with someone that's older than they are, even though they created someone that is artificial intelligence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's when I'm I'm seeing with this movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not and yes, I'm seeing the crunchiness, but at the same time, though, I'm seeing layers being unpacked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what they're going for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and I think her whole goal as soon as she was created, I think her whole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She understood she understood the assignment, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She knew that her goal her job was to help them help themselves, you know, they wanted what they really needed was self confidence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where she gave them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She gave themselves confidence in themselves to be able to do what just stand up for themselves, to be able to have confidence in the fact that they can have a woman, their own age, to be able to kiss, to be able to do the things that a popular people can do, even though they're not popular themselves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'd be looking up, because we think they might get popular later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, because it's an entire party situation that's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So despite why it's protests, Lisa insists that the party happened anyway in order to loosen the boys up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lisa goes to meet Gary's parents, Alan Lucy, who to Gary's embarrassment are shocked and is made at the thing she says in her frank manner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After she pulls a gun on them, later will be able to beat

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[SPEAKER_00]: to Gary to be a water pistol.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She alters their memories too, so that Lucy forgets about the conflict and Al for guests that they've had a son altogether.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like this idea of like, okay, well, I gotta go get Gary now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I already got Wyatt signed up on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's good to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now I need to go and try to get Gary on board for this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because remember why it is actually the type of person who is like, I don't want nothing happened to my hat to the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want this party on panicking because of my brother on panicking what's going to happen at the repercussions afterwards, especially with my parents.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got the anxiety happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gary is also actually on the opposite in where he's like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: where happens if something goes wrong?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What if I'm not able to be popular?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What if I'm not going to be able to nail a girl?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What if it's all the what ifs for Gary?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I like how Lisa walks into the home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It pretty much dominates the parents into letting them go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, well, it's not going to happen all you start like it's going to be whips and chains or anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's like the really famous

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dips, chips, chains, and whips line comes from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know where that's from, that scene actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, the first time I saw this and I know with the trip for some watching it, I was a teenager.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw this in the movie theater when originally came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was horrified and like, oh my god, like how, like, you're, I just thought was so horrible because I didn't have any idea how the movie ended.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh my gosh, she just talked to his parents that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now the dad doesn't remember his own son, you know, she just sets up this whole thing and then of course throughout the rest of the movie because we're actually pretty, pretty far into the movie at this point, um, she has to keep reminding that he has a son, maybe he's for none, that he had a kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's Gary, who's Gary?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, who's Gary?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I think that actually works for, you know, you said that you seen this for the first time and what's giving you anxiety.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that that works in its favor though, because the movie is actually doing its job, because you're feeling the anxiety of what the kids are going through, just as you as a teenager are going and wondering how are they going to make this out of this thing, because you're actually having anxiety like, okay, what's going to happen to why it's house?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's going to happen in the gallery?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's,

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[SPEAKER_00]: what all the what if she says they're wondering all the what if scenarios as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that is actually working in the favor of the 80s teenagers turn that time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, even more to get now, it's still sort of gives me anxiety watching get because you know, it's going to end but it's still like, and I think I think that John he was made up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: some really good choices in order to make that happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was one of them that's seen with the parents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then so over the top, it's just like, oh, how is this going to undo itself?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was trying to think John, I don't remember when this when we came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, how they marketed it because I think this was the first of his teenage teenage movies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was, I think after vacation, if I'm, I could be wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he wasn't really known for, you know what I mean at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he was like, the guy who makes movies for teenagers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was just trying to remember like, did I see an advert to how did I end up in the movie theater to see this movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a lot of movies marketed to teenagers back then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was probably just like, you know, the typical marketing or a teenager kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Michael Hall was famous at this point because vacation I think came out first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, and now I forget the actor who played Wyatt was not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he never was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he only made a couple of movies and then wrapped it in this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm only seeing him as a blogger, 80s movies and that was it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a professor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he went on to go get a graduate degree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a PhD and he teaches in somewhere, he used to teach at least somewhere in Texas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure where about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think he found some interviews, you know, sick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there's a real nostalgia about John Hughes movies in particular.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he has done some interviews about making this movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but like I said, he's, he's, he's, he's very short enough to have it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Scott, I think it's a really tough, I think even today it's a really tough business to be in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a tough business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially if you think about it, I look at acting as like a fat working in a factory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And since because it's like let's say for instance, you have Arnold Schwarzenegger, right, you pump him out of the factory and he's on his way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the MVP of the 80s and 90s of the action stars, right, then after a while that they start aging them out and look for the next one because they brought a lead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: after as many years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, okay, we need a new fresh face of the action stars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who do we have next?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get Jason State them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the new face of the action movies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No more talking about Vietnam, no more Stallone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to be the guy who's going to be carrying the carrying it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was the rock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the way I see it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like manufacturing people versus ours versus anything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when I look at acting in the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, even Anthony Michael Hall, he had a long, obviously relationship with job working relationship with John Hughes, and then he turned down, I think, ducking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they actually had a break where they never spoke, I don't think they ever spoke again after that, because John didn't forgive him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then he went on to do Edward's Cisir Hands, which really turned his career around because everybody thought he was just a teenage,

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[SPEAKER_00]: comedian, how many I think that he wanted to get out of that whole entire band of the castes and work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and I think it worked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a huge, like lead, but of course when you have back then at least Johnny Depp in a film behind a film, it's going to be a huge success.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also a win on the writer at that time was huge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, her, she had her own career woes, but that's a very unusual

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of ways it could have been a big bust people loved it, but that didn't, I mean, it's a weird movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I felt I reviewed that one back in March.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a good movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me just tell you this, like I, as a kid, I loved it, but as an adult, looking back on it is very weird and unusual and different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like the fact that, you know, Michael C. Hall is like, look, I'm getting older now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to be duckie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Duckie would have been a great thing for me if I was just starting out, but I'm not that kid anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to do something that's more tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and I think that he did a really good job and it versus your hands and also too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At that time, Johnny Deb was not a big name star like he was, he was on Jump Street.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was really close though, I mean, because I get stuck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The movie with Leonardo DiCaprio, what's eating Gilbert great?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was one of the movies that made him a huge star.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he already was a T-nightle

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not going to lie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love Dr. 21 Jump Street and I wanted to cry when he left it because it was never the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it still makes me sad to think he left it, but I love 21 Jump Street.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this was sort of at the beginning of his film career because he left 21 Jump Street.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say in 90 or 91, maybe, and suddenly I think it was 90 or 91.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and because they wanted to make movies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to go back, Anthony might go home, only to kind of play Duckie, Duckie, Duckie, and in 16 candles, and I think you didn't want to do that again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that was a great decision because, and now I forget who played Duckie, and my brain, you know, job is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: To an appman, the actor that was on two and a half men,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I love him so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love Ducky Dale and I can't think of his name and I just saw an interview with him, but at any rate, he was... Joe, John crying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: John crying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That could not have been better cast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was, he was Ducky Dale.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think it just worked out really well in the end anyway, so...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, hopefully for everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's get back over to the Don L. E. House.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The party has spun out of control while Gary and Wyatt take refuge in the bathroom where they result to have a good time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Despite having embarrassed themselves on front of Deb and Hilling, meanwhile Wyatt's grandparents arrived in Toronto, Lisa, about the party, but she freezes them and hides them in a cupboard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and upstairs in Wyatt's bedroom, Ian Max convinced Gary and Wyatt to re-create the events that created Lisa, but Lisa chides them over their misuses on the magic to impress their tormentor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She also mentions that they forgot to connect the doll, thus with the bear but live electrodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: lying on top of the magazine page showing a rising two medium range ballistic missiles, a real missile appears through the, through the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the fact that you have these two guys, you have wide and Gary and they, they're like, they're in the bathroom and these two girls come knocking on the door and they're not laying them into the bathroom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just wide

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just thought that was funny is like, they're so terrified of this party that's happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not wanting anything to do with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Still.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think that Lisa's not having that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is like where they kind of start changing a little bit, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because now they're going to

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[SPEAKER_01]: We even though they're terrified in the bathroom, that's not how it all ends up right, and we know that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the this missile comes up and then at least it's still not happy with how everything's going so we bring in what you haven't talked about the game yet so I think this is and we're getting really close to the end of the movie where we really start seeing these changes in these guys because you know a lot has already happened and now it's just like we're at the party scene and

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot going on at this party.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they're trying to make a girl for the dudes and they kind of do it, but they do it wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's how we end up with that missile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like what they did here was like, OK, we got to recreate the events that happened, the way they, well, the way we did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to put the bras on our heads again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do we have to do that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just have to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It may not make sense, but we got to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have everything right all except having the Barbie doll with the jumper cables on on there and when they did that everything changes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have the house turning upside down with one person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have one person's clothes being stripped off for them and hanging on while the house is blowing everything out of the chimney.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have all this disarray with their house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then finally, you see the black smoke, you see the smoke happen again, and they're thinking that they did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Instead, it's Lisa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Lisa kind of reminds me of the pissed off parent that found their kids doing something that they weren't supposed to be doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like how they think that they got away with something and they didn't and it's actually Lisa he's like she's like did you ever think about putting the jumper cables on to the barbie tall just like you did before to bring me to life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, oh, okay, we messed up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I also don't think Lisa wanted them to do that because we don't want to help them do I keep calling the news guys because I remember the name, but she didn't want to help them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they're such jerks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They threw slushies on them earlier, you know, and they're at the party just because other people were going to be a part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know who these guys are like, I don't, you know what I mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and I understand, and here's the thing, I don't understand why why and why it and Gary want to help these guys either, because I'm going to help these guys out, so I can fit in and be like them, because this is what I need to be in order to fit in, so even if I have to go ahead and sell my own soul in my friends out for what I have to do be popular to have friends, I'm going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, helping that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that could be too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't really go into why they do that, but for whatever reason, they just choose to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it could be for what you said, and along the same lines like just because like, I mean, I guess you like, if you can't beat them, join them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right and I don't I didn't like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were changing themselves about who where they started from just to sell out Lisa to make another version of Lisa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like canceling out one girl to be with the other girl right kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like well, Lisa one point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's not working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me make Lisa two point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, and maybe that would help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I felt felt like to me and then I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: then Lisa resolves that the boys had need a change to boost their confidence and has a gang of mutant bikers, like you mentioned, and they at the party, causing chaos and sending the boys running.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The bikers take Deb and Heli, your hostage, and why didn't Gary decide, they need to save them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They front the bikers with a new boost of confidence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lisa, Lisa's water pistol to force them back down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's another thing we forgot to talk about was like the water pistol that she pointed at Gary's parents.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you mentioned that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do like the fact that it comes back again in this scene.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I also like how Lisa's like, okay, you guys are hiding in the closet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys need to get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And really confront these guys because these guys are tearing everything up into your house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything that didn't want happen is happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to do something up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like how she has, I know just the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she gets these mutant types zombie bikers to destroy this whole house and then to try to give them their boost to boost them up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She goes on ahead and tells the, and Gary winds up with the gun and points the gun at the head zombie and they wound up leaving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, everybody's terrified at this point, especially because why it is like with the gun, you know, he's holding and they like talking and talking and then, um, Gary's like, dude, you got the gun after these guys leave and he's like, what, it's just a water pistol.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like falls a trigger and it's a gun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a real gun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was in the car, everybody at the party is also ducking because...

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a gun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a water pistol.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden the chandelier falls because it fell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because he thought it was the water pistol, like it was the water pistol earlier in the movie, or at least she said it, well, you know what I mean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that was really funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then she, like, he let they like save the girls, the zombie bikers leave and the kind of the heroes of the party at this point, and that we're getting close to the end of the weekend and long day, everything to be home soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's time to be worried because of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then you have Chet on covers the disarray in which the house has a missile parachuting from through the kitchen and fourth joyous and carpet of the bedroom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The kitchen being turned into an entire blue and is chaotic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Grand Paris in the cupboard before confronting Wyatt and Gary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are tells the boys to escort the girl's hall while she talks to Chad alone, very, very, very excease being pulled over by the police in a pondering Ferrari while while it proclaims his love or hilly before being sprayed by her parents' lawn sprinklers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And both the girls reciprocate their feelings for the boys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I like how it's the next morning and you have shit coming back in there being all tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In this car, he goes up to his bedroom, it's knowing in his bedroom like that's normal and then he goes back down the stairs and then you have the confrontation with why it again and he wants to go I don't want just a little bit of money for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I want to please 200 or $300 to keep this tight lid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, how are you going to keep that tight lid anyways, and I get the fact that you're trying to basically

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[SPEAKER_00]: do what you did before, but the house is disarrayed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you're just a way of coming this up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're still gonna try and do that to your brother.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought for sure, because they stood up to the bikers that would actually still get them confidence to want to stand up to shed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By instead it doesn't,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wish that they would have actually kept that in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you worked all the way up to the fact of standing up for yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You needed to also be a less enough standing up to your family if even though blood doesn't mean anything, you need to still stand up to your family at times when they're being wrong, being wrong to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What would you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think that's a really important sort of

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[SPEAKER_01]: points to make, even though it was sort of tucked in at the end there, I think that they did a good job of making that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do have to laugh at the grandparents being frozen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was so funny when they opened the cupboard and they're like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they're just like, they went out to dinner and they're like, well, we should stop and see our grandson and make sure he's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's like the like the like the like the like the having love from your grandparents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're so sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the next morning would be the same way when the boys woke up before where everything's put together again, and they think it's a dream, but no, I like how she makes them learn a lesson with all the mess and chaos they created, with their own chaos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, the party was bad, but the damage that they did was their own fault.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because of the missile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to help those two douchebags.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, trying to help the douchebags, which is a mistake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do like the fact that Lisa tells the boys to take the girl's home and now her and shit have a chat and I was like her said and I can be a, you know, I'm going to

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then, you know, you had this whole entire scene where you have Gary's running from speeding and then you had the mother and father of, of him and he's like, I think that was Gary, because who's Gary?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was still there when it took.

01:00:03.478 --> 01:00:05.019
[SPEAKER_01]: Gary's Gary's down still doesn't

01:00:12.525 --> 01:00:19.189
[SPEAKER_00]: Then finally, I'll do like the fact that Wyatt confronts his love for Hilly, Hilly winds up kissing him.

01:00:19.569 --> 01:00:20.670
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he tells where he loves her.

01:00:20.710 --> 01:00:22.711
[SPEAKER_00]: This regular water sprinklers come on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he doesn't care.

01:00:24.873 --> 01:00:31.657
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the cars disappear once Wyatt in, uh, I'm putting you on the name now.

01:00:32.057 --> 01:00:32.318
[SPEAKER_00]: Gary.

01:00:32.898 --> 01:00:33.658
[SPEAKER_00]: And thank you.

01:00:33.859 --> 01:00:34.539
[SPEAKER_00]: Why and Gary.

01:00:35.702 --> 01:00:50.694
[SPEAKER_00]: And now we have that whole entire competition now in the house and you see chat turned into this troll like being just giant turd is basically what I'm calling it because that's where it looked like he's got flies around him.

01:00:50.814 --> 01:00:51.074
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:00:51.535 --> 01:00:52.816
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's just like this gross.

01:00:53.576 --> 01:00:55.237
[SPEAKER_01]: Lobby turd thing.

01:00:55.798 --> 01:00:56.679
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so gross.

01:00:56.719 --> 01:00:57.860
[SPEAKER_01]: He's so gross.

01:00:59.901 --> 01:01:03.484
[SPEAKER_00]: And I also like how wine and Gary think that Lisa's going to be so hard broken.

01:01:04.109 --> 01:01:06.530
[SPEAKER_00]: because of the fact that they have girlfriends now.

01:01:07.450 --> 01:01:13.492
[SPEAKER_00]: And they don't realize that Lisa was trying to teach some of the lesson the whole time that they don't need her.

01:01:13.832 --> 01:01:21.855
[SPEAKER_00]: They wanted someone that they could date that had the same qualities like her.

01:01:23.552 --> 01:01:37.465
[SPEAKER_00]: So I liked what they did with that and then, you know, I like how she tells the boys, don't worry, she'll be okay, we'll turn back into normal later on and then in meantime, she has over there telling why it that he loves him, that he's never going to do that again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's also catching flies as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so close.

01:01:43.070 --> 01:01:47.232
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also like how we talk about a sweetest check-out, right?

01:01:47.292 --> 01:01:53.616
[SPEAKER_00]: And I also like how Lisa, you guys want to check my hand and she's like, nah, and then, not thank you.

01:01:55.357 --> 01:02:02.541
[SPEAKER_00]: But I also like how they still kept his facial structure in that costume too, because you can still see the crew cut.

01:02:02.621 --> 01:02:07.624
[SPEAKER_00]: You can still see his eye still, and you can everything about him still looks like shit.

01:02:07.884 --> 01:02:10.186
[SPEAKER_00]: So I like how they didn't change anything with that.

01:02:13.476 --> 01:02:18.119
[SPEAKER_00]: but then of that, at least it turns everything back to normal again.

01:02:18.139 --> 01:02:24.064
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have, as Lisa's leaving, all the disarray is magically transformed back to normal.

01:02:24.144 --> 01:02:28.667
[SPEAKER_00]: The missile disappears, the home is restored to the original phase state.

01:02:29.227 --> 01:02:34.551
[SPEAKER_00]: And check returns to normal just as why as parents return home, unaware anything odd has happened at all.

01:02:35.112 --> 01:02:41.276
[SPEAKER_00]: Some, sometime later, at Schermer High School, at Jim Klaus of Sweaty, Pimply, Adela St. Boise,

01:02:42.518 --> 01:02:47.500
[SPEAKER_00]: for a gym class to begin, is met with a beautifully fit coach in Spandex.

01:02:48.060 --> 01:02:55.223
[SPEAKER_00]: And it is revealed to be Lisa, who tells the class to drop, who give me 20, causing all the boys in the class to faint and collapse.

01:02:55.263 --> 01:02:57.644
[SPEAKER_01]: She turns the cameras with miles of knowledge.

01:02:58.805 --> 01:02:59.405
[SPEAKER_01]: That's funny.

01:03:00.826 --> 01:03:10.970
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I do like the fact that, I think, do you think that John Hughes was gonna try and go for a second movie or it wasn't like, okay, well, my adventure for these boys are gone.

01:03:11.893 --> 01:03:20.019
[SPEAKER_00]: So now I'm going to start a new adventure with these other kids and try to teach them that they can do this with same thing that I can do with white and chat.

01:03:20.520 --> 01:03:22.181
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't know.

01:03:22.301 --> 01:03:30.107
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because I always feel like when you wrote a movie, he was done with the movie, but it is possible he wrote it to try and set it up for another movie.

01:03:30.167 --> 01:03:30.968
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to say.

01:03:31.068 --> 01:03:31.828
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really hard to say.

01:03:31.868 --> 01:03:32.389
[SPEAKER_01]: I never really

01:03:32.842 --> 01:03:53.078
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I've not really given that ending all that much thought, but I feel like in the end she probably was real, but maybe not, I don't know, that's a good question, but I kind of thought it was also weird because I'm like, is it everybody going to remember her from being at the party because it's, it's their vehicle.

01:03:53.706 --> 01:03:58.329
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, that you bring an interesting point because of the fact that the manipulation she does.

01:03:59.009 --> 01:04:03.832
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, I don't think the boys are going to remember her or anything that they did.

01:04:04.252 --> 01:04:06.494
[SPEAKER_01]: She probably can, yeah, right.

01:04:06.814 --> 01:04:10.016
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just hard to say because I don't know.

01:04:10.376 --> 01:04:11.757
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, that's a good question.

01:04:12.712 --> 01:04:19.501
[SPEAKER_01]: And you could have set it up for a second movie and they probably could have made one actually, maybe at some point they thought about it.

01:04:19.941 --> 01:04:28.112
[SPEAKER_00]: But also to it's also part of fine actors to fit the bill from Michael C. Hall and then the other kid that played right.

01:04:29.087 --> 01:04:32.589
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and it's rare that John Hughes ever does sequels.

01:04:33.030 --> 01:04:33.330
[SPEAKER_01]: Never.

01:04:33.350 --> 01:04:45.138
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll only sequels because I think he wrote the Beethoven movies and I think those were the only movies he ever wrote that had sequels, but those were, you know they were going to be sequels when he started writing them, I'm sure.

01:04:45.758 --> 01:04:47.319
[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's hard to say.

01:04:47.379 --> 01:04:53.504
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's a really good question John because I never really thought a lot about the ending to that scene.

01:04:53.544 --> 01:04:55.325
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never given it a ton of thought.

01:04:56.427 --> 01:05:01.009
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, because it seems like they would want to make a sequel out of this because of the way it leaves off.

01:05:01.490 --> 01:05:02.550
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:05:02.670 --> 01:05:15.117
[SPEAKER_00]: Any other, let me tell you this, if this was more than time and let's say, for instance, this movie was a 250 million dollar budget and it made over the amount, they would actually cash that in and wanting John to do another one.

01:05:15.477 --> 01:05:21.220
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but that's true because sequels started to be huge in the games.

01:05:21.620 --> 01:05:25.042
[SPEAKER_01]: If there was anybody to be made in the sequel, that's where that began.

01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:28.662
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in fact, this movie had a 7.5 million dollar budget.

01:05:28.842 --> 01:05:30.944
[SPEAKER_00]: It made 38.9 million.

01:05:32.405 --> 01:05:33.186
[SPEAKER_01]: What was the budget?

01:05:34.087 --> 01:05:36.449
[SPEAKER_00]: The budget was 7.5 million.

01:05:36.469 --> 01:05:40.872
[SPEAKER_00]: You were right about the fact that his budget was not that big.

01:05:41.172 --> 01:05:41.713
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it wasn't.

01:05:41.993 --> 01:05:46.977
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, when you consider how many how many sequels were to vacation,

01:05:48.565 --> 01:05:51.266
[SPEAKER_01]: which predated this movie, you know.

01:05:51.366 --> 01:05:59.470
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe he did think to set it up and maybe, and maybe at some point there was interest, but I mean, he very much lost interest.

01:05:59.570 --> 01:06:02.731
[SPEAKER_01]: I think in directing because he couldn't do what he wanted to do anyway.

01:06:03.191 --> 01:06:06.853
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're, they're put a bit of a lot going on and all that.

01:06:07.153 --> 01:06:16.077
[SPEAKER_01]: And he will always move on because you remember that he had for you thinking and then he did bear a spoiler and then at some point in there, he did blanks trades in automobile.

01:06:17.002 --> 01:06:21.025
[SPEAKER_01]: He had so many other projects going on that maybe he just didn't want to revisit that one.

01:06:22.206 --> 01:06:35.857
[SPEAKER_01]: I can totally understand that at all because I'm not sure that I mean, I love this movie, but it also wasn't in deep as some of his other movies in that it meant that it was meant to be.

01:06:35.877 --> 01:06:38.919
[SPEAKER_01]: It meant was meant to be what it was.

01:06:39.980 --> 01:06:44.243
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, you know, it's going to be really like how many trying to find yourself.

01:06:45.109 --> 01:06:53.595
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he meant like when you think about trained planes and automobiles and how deep that movie was and how many how much layering of complexity.

01:06:54.155 --> 01:06:57.617
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that is where his interest moved to.

01:06:57.677 --> 01:07:03.041
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to say, you know, it's really hard to say because he didn't do a lot of interviews about his own career.

01:07:13.570 --> 01:07:17.714
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, just writing different projects that he was in the 80s.

01:07:19.335 --> 01:07:21.777
[SPEAKER_00]: So now that we talked about this, not in a static way.

01:07:22.298 --> 01:07:24.780
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we stripped away the nostalgia, where do you get this?

01:07:28.643 --> 01:07:31.646
[SPEAKER_01]: What do I give it today or what would I give it in the 80s, right?

01:07:33.167 --> 01:07:38.352
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to say, I probably would give it a 6.5 or a 7.

01:07:38.392 --> 01:07:38.612
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:07:40.962 --> 01:07:59.412
[SPEAKER_00]: At first I was going to go a little low because but things but then does we start talking about it and real and I'm realizing the layers of these characters and the care that Lisa has for these characters and, you know, I'm going to give this at least a 5.8 out of 10.

01:07:59.432 --> 01:08:01.713
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's fair.

01:08:02.053 --> 01:08:06.936
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's certainly because comedy we've ever seen, but it was still a solid comedy.

01:08:08.058 --> 01:08:20.169
[SPEAKER_00]: I do, I really do appreciate this fellow because if going through puberty, if I was trying to find myself and I didn't fit into a school or anything, I would want to hang out with Wyatt and Gary.

01:08:20.189 --> 01:08:21.511
[SPEAKER_01]: You like it?

01:08:21.531 --> 01:08:23.352
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you want to take a nice place.

01:08:23.713 --> 01:08:23.873
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:08:25.548 --> 01:08:30.930
[SPEAKER_00]: So my question for you guys is, what would you give this as a modern day review?

01:08:31.070 --> 01:08:34.491
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, too, what's your nostalgic nostalgic rating as well?

01:08:34.531 --> 01:08:41.653
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me on movielubstatedgmail.com, or go ahead and comment below and I will go ahead and talk to you back.

01:08:42.274 --> 01:08:47.235
[SPEAKER_00]: So Beth, would you have anything coming out or anything, anything new?

01:08:47.976 --> 01:08:52.997
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the summer, the main for TV movie club podcast, we're doing some of our hits in Mrs.

01:08:55.739 --> 01:08:58.680
[SPEAKER_01]: pilot movies that were at the past on.

01:08:59.320 --> 01:09:02.861
[SPEAKER_01]: We were doing some movies that had short-lived series.

01:09:03.081 --> 01:09:07.403
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we're doing ER, pilot.

01:09:07.623 --> 01:09:09.043
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's super exciting.

01:09:09.484 --> 01:09:12.945
[SPEAKER_01]: And I have been writing for Twisted Palt magazine.

01:09:13.805 --> 01:09:16.986
[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty much I'm going to be in every issue now, and I'm going to be writing about,

01:09:17.568 --> 01:09:18.248
[SPEAKER_01]: TV movies.

01:09:18.328 --> 01:09:19.709
[SPEAKER_01]: So if that's been fun.

01:09:20.049 --> 01:09:24.171
[SPEAKER_01]: The last one I wrote about was a TV movie from the 70s called the Initiation of Sarah.

01:09:24.531 --> 01:09:25.231
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a horror movie.

01:09:25.251 --> 01:09:26.372
[SPEAKER_01]: It actually was quite good.

01:09:26.632 --> 01:09:30.374
[SPEAKER_01]: They called it a rip off of Kerry, but I think it had a lot of value on its own.

01:09:31.474 --> 01:09:31.774
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:09:33.295 --> 01:09:35.496
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm having to check out, check that out as well.

01:09:35.556 --> 01:09:38.017
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the writing that you've been doing for your podcast.

01:09:38.337 --> 01:09:39.838
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I'm having.

01:09:39.958 --> 01:09:41.839
[SPEAKER_01]: I've really been enjoying doing that.

01:09:41.919 --> 01:09:42.699
[SPEAKER_01]: And actually the

01:09:45.057 --> 01:09:52.042
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to he's been writing a lot of horror and I've been writing some horror for him to for some anthologies.

01:09:52.122 --> 01:09:57.545
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he's going to maybe come on to the podcast and talk about that a little bit this fall.

01:09:58.186 --> 01:10:01.328
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well guys, that's going to be it as far as this goes.

01:10:01.548 --> 01:10:08.192
[SPEAKER_00]: I will have a super girl review coming out on the YouTube channel coming out this weekend because I'm going to go see it.

01:10:10.308 --> 01:10:17.313
[SPEAKER_00]: I do have a, then of course, going to check out my Michael Pressman interview I did with the Teenation and Charles Director also to go ahead.

01:10:17.613 --> 01:10:23.358
[SPEAKER_00]: Check out the Al Mariachi review that me and Jason did for that, for that film.

01:10:23.398 --> 01:10:26.080
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a fun, fun review that him and I did.

01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:30.643
[SPEAKER_00]: So always the next time guys, have a green safe day and we'll catch you guys in the next one.

01:10:31.063 --> 01:10:31.624
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Beth.

01:10:31.684 --> 01:10:32.545
[SPEAKER_00]: Again for joining me.

01:10:32.585 --> 01:10:33.765
[SPEAKER_00]: I do appreciate it.

01:10:34.106 --> 01:10:34.786
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

01:10:35.247 --> 01:10:35.847
[SPEAKER_00]: Very welcome.

01:10:36.147 --> 01:10:36.628
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, guys.

01:10:36.968 --> 01:10:37.188
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.