Stranger Things Season 5 Volume 2 — Episodes 5–7 Spoiler Breakdown

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[SPEAKER_00]: And hello movie lovers, I'm open to show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So tonight I am a good friend today at MasterTuck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have Dawn with me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're here to break down Stranger Things season five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Episode five through seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are gonna be doing our episode eight review.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I'm probably next week's sometimes, but still guys, I'm excited to be able to break this now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We both are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's break this thing down and let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And hey, Dawn, how are you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, good evening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and I'm very talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited to talk about this, break it down, do all that other stuff, going into volume two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was, you know, we talked about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were some things that, you know, especially when we were involving her friends if her sister come back in the play again, 11th sister.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want her to die.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't trust her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't trust her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't trust her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my first initial thoughts coming out of the gate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I won her to die.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't trust her because of the way 11 left her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I guess we're for that, dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way she's going to let that slide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she has a plan right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who she's working specifically, like with Beckna, but she's more likely working with the side, the Laura Hamilton's character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Laura Hamilton's character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: OK. Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I'm thinking, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, she saw the pregnant woman and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We seen it in the flashbacks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But my initial thoughts is this, just because we seen it in the flashback, does not necessarily mean that she didn't go on ahead and kill all those pregnant women, just so that way 11 can sacrifice herself with her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think if she's ended up, I think she isn't telling the truth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, there's no way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm with Hopper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to bring with everything the Hopper says.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopper is a screen on, you know, he usually has an idea of what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's not always right on, but he usually is the most level headed, what at least, like, no, no, no, let's look at this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Buying, you know, the thing, the other, what's that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, where is that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This goes to show you how much of a cop hopper actually is where he is able to actually see what's going on ahead of him and stuff like that and I think that you need someone like that and also to he's also a father figure to 11.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I definitely like how he put it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know you, but you're going to tell her that she has to sacrifice herself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then also too, she winds up saying, you know, what we should do, we should go ahead and just sacrifice her, both of herself on that bridge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and no, let's also talk about another thing that I liked about the within the season though, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That thought that was really good was the Holly and Max dynamic between the two of them working together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you get, and then you'll see Derek, who's actually on the sideline,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I liked it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like I actually liked that they play with his perspective, not play with it, but show us from his perspective.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's a standard, I don't know what the heck is like, I don't know what, but I think he's just so scared in that moment that he has to just kind of go along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do like if they show that from his point of view when they're downstairs, he's like, these people are crazy, not his kids are crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, this is a definition of, this is a kid's cult and dairy, is just saying they're watching everything go down while he's also watching Holly as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, then you have Holly who goes all the way out to the woods, again, to see mags, and she's trying to break it down to mags, hey, look, Henry said

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is not good for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden, she max actually here something in the background and happens to be direct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Derek is actually laying on the ground.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just how much of you heard, well, I heard the part about her about Henry and I come back and I did that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I just love this dynamic between them, it's like, okay, now she has someone on the inside that's going to try and help her, but then you find out later on that Henry actually has on a way to have leverage over Derek.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a scary scene too, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know what I would do in that moment if I was a kid either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be freaking out too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely would be too, but I like how Derek is not afraid to stand up to him either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, who drew this map?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a mom?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's definitely fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That kid's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a jerk, but he's funny at being a drill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He plays it well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is like our closest to live action

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do have to say I like the dynamic with him and then after that you have everything that's happening within the upside down everything that we thought we knew about the upside down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were totally wrong about it and is doing his research and at first I thought maybe it was like a time travel thing with Dustin because we see the map laid out right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: him in the past, that this is what happens if they wind up shooting that electric field that Nancy shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know if this is the one part of the show where they will they lose me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be honest and it's unfortunate, but it's not so big where I'm like, okay, I'm going to worry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't take me out of the show, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand the worm whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That I don't understand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand how it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, he wants to make his own earth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So therefore, and what you know is right, I understand what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I guess I would kind of, it kind of reminds me of like a skull, a skull island called King Hall versus Godzilla, where there's like the underworld area and it's like a separate world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I understand like the mechanics of what's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I just don't like the explanation is kind of, is a little weak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like kind of like lazy writing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say lazy writing because I couldn't come up with this, but I'm just saying, I don't know, I just, I thought it was just going to be more of this, it's just a world around our world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like this is like almost like a, like, wear goose slip, you know, kind of thick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's just a world we can't see, but it's always there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always on the other side of the mirror, kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, that's kind of more like, yeah, like that, then like it's an actual separate world that he goes to through like a time for the world of time or it's not a time portal, but it's a way to move some space.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, basically, yeah, it's a way to move through space without using your basically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Supported.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it works as well because you would, I don't know, it's just weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just hoping that they don't do like the whole time travel thing because I don't want that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad it's our time for Iowa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I wouldn't want time travel on this to be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that explanation, it's just, I thought it was going to be something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought it was going to be something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not even that that actually created this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was science that created this whole entire basically, this condo, this conductor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Nancy shoots it and, hey, how you doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you a moment, I do pretty sure you're being inside the live chat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I just think that, you know, with the way they did this was perfect, I thought it was perfect to have Nancy and Jonathan together and then bringing everything to the forefront of why they feel so distant and why the relationship has now changed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the things that Steve wants is not necessarily the things that Nancy wants and Nancy doesn't want the things that Jonathan wants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he was gonna propose to her,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he ends up breaking up with her on proposing to her for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said this to one of my friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said it would be more poetic if you had those two characters die off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's not Romeo and Juliet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get that I mean someone commented like this is not Romeo and Juliet, but no, it's not Romeo and Juliet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time though, we have two characters that are facing death together that are embracing the fact that they were not going to be together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So even with them in death, they're going to be separated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they, but they still managed to flush out everything that in the relationship that they found wrong with each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that would have been on perfect way for them to go out versus being them on the table.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I just really feel like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I, I, how did you feel about that, Tateco?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you, but read with me or do you disagree with me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's okay if you disagree with me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just kind of curious about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you like that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you not like that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or did you feel like me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, look, did you want to just end these two characters?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the thing, I feel like that they're playing in safe with keeping past certain characters alive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, come on, it's the final season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need it actually in some of the characters that we know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know they need to kill people off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But people need to be getting hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They need to be a little bit dangerous elements to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there should be more danger involved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That will agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does feel like they're very away from everything that's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, he says, I mean, I feel like they should get married than Jonathan died the day after to make a dramatic last episode, in my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a bad idea and it would be cool to actually have Steve come in there to comfort Nancy after everything because Jonathan and him have been beefing back and forth about who's going to be the module guy that's going to have Nancy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This actually gives him to be a little bit more charismatic towards Nancy's feelings and put his side his differences as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I definitely like I like that idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what I was saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I definitely like where you're going with that, but, you know, I just think that they need to have more of a danger element.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we know that Holly and Max had a little bit of a danger moment whenever they're trying to get to each other's back into each other's bodies and stuff, but that needs to be a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I don't disagree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I don't disagree with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get every time when you're seeing Max, she's just staring out into the abyss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, Ron.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know what this is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was not the that's the other thing about to see that really kind of bothers me is because it's just not the time to try to figure out a new way to connect to the world like you basically at this point now you just revealed to that to Holly that you've been lying to the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but at the same time, though, I feel like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Holly's new to this world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Max knows this world inside and out at this world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Max has been like, oh, but at the time we can go home, we can go home, we can go home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when they get there and the first thing she says to her, okay, you can't go with me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to find your own body.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You had to find your own body.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just kind of felt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It felt mean in the moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It felt me like, okay, you helped me, but now you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're

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[SPEAKER_00]: They finally getting that one part where the mother sacrifices herself and you have Holly who ends up just feeling guilty over the fact that she wasn't able to save her mother and I like how Max is there to boost her confidence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, look, there was nothing that you can do is just act.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She did just happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, the conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the connection.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She makes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like to hear the, or the high in the heroic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the connection.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How she eventually makes her connection to the world is that I felt in that moment wasn't the time like it was just the moment that it happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought I was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Josh Josh the midnight cinema our friend because it's actually a master tuck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don Grand Creature he lives.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am alive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he's alive and healthy and well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, back to what I was trying to say though too was this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This has that nightmare in on Street 5 where you actually have dignity going into the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He walks down that exit to where they can actually go out the door and then the other thing that I thought I wish that would have happened and I think that we'll sure to aim for the hit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like, I'm like, screw the lake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, if you know you can tap into thickness mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why maybe that's why he couldn't because they needed the brain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know But I do agree with you kill the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They put it right through the chest or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe with you I'm with like you know what that Thanos you're trying to aim for the head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep If you could happen to if you could happen to deck now if it enters the thing if you want to kill them We wouldn't have a those he's of an alley tomorrow night Well, I'm just saying do more damage than damaging his leg You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that they could have just went on ahead broke his neck

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And no, he just made a good point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, uh, stop bringing back Vekna.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so I've said this before last time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll say it again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do feel the D&D influence on this series and what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: if they did something different like it was a mine flare or why don't they don't mind for the story but it was cthulu or like if there was actually a big bad that we were getting to like back to the shit I think that there could have been another version of the mine's uh uh the mine's layer I think there could have been another version of it that's a whole lot bigger and better being the big batty because if you think about thickness basically the general.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you think about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of what I was thinking they should have done is had somebody above him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, somebody they're just been called a short layer of yeah of that kind of like no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We still have this one more person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think that would help to not, I don't even want to say help to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it would have felt more D&D for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, you know, they're doing a show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not doing a campaign in D&D.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they have to, even though it does feel like a campaign D&D.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because a lot of the decisions they make, you can tell it's like a group of people who just, you know, send a rat to them, you know, just coming up with something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's kind of always the moment they're in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Something crazy's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on with something great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, come on with an idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on with a plan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, midnight cinema also says or or make will become some master's creature that they just cut down or battle 11 to the death.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, if he freaking shapeshifts into like albert or something that would be so dope, so dope, but I mean, they won't do it, but no, but I think that it's going to end with a will probably dying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or I was thinking about the lemon dying because they keep saying, just because they kept this whole last episode was literally just you're going to you have to die you have to sacrifice you have to die you have to die you have to die and they're not going to do they're not going to telegraph it that I can imagine they're going to telegraph it that much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only way I could think of it is like if she goes down in Dr. K's laboratory in the upside down, that would be the only way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see herself doing that at all because she wants to be with Mike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ultimately, yeah, she wants to be with Mike.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do like the fact that you have the mother saving them again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me a little bit about your Terminator 2, which she walks in there and through the smoke and she, oh man, I was like, all this is like Terminator 2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But also 2, it also, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But also 2, man, it also reminds me of Jurassic Park.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just going to say, do they really rip the scene out of Jurassic Park with a raptor?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The demigor didn't shoot it yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even the distraction with the noise coming from the other side of the room, everything was so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the mother coming in there to blow them up with the oxygen tank.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, her walking through that smoke for a lot of these don't want to turn it air to like her to come in through just with a shotgun, just blowing it all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many huge odds with the 80s and like early 90s and this, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm eating this up and you know, everything, there's certain things that I'm questioning about and there's certain things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just stuff in my face for a popcorn and enjoying this whole thing and saying, forget about the noise in my head and just enjoy the show for what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, though, I'm questioning certain things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that people were kind of like, okay, we'll coming out that he was gay and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really get it because it's the 80s and everybody at that time, especially with someone coming out that they're gay, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of, in the way that Vignan said it, it's like, these people are not gonna love you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not gonna be there for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and twisting and turning, this just is internal motions and his own demons that he's fighting against and he's struggling to be able to tell his own family and his own friends how he feels, even though Mike might feel like he's in the friends zone now, because look at his expression on his face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, but I'm just kidding about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he realized that though he wasn't actually in love with Mike, I think no, I realize that now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that that was just sort of like his best friend growing up, you know, somebody who was close to, you know, obviously he would have, especially, you know, in the 80s, like you said, just the stigma behind it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see Miles says, bro, stranger things is a W is great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I came into love in this show in 2015, whenever I first aired, a matter of fact, I had someone that emailed me a message me on my, uh, on our Facebook page.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, look, if you love the 80s, five, with a touch of Stephen King and a little touch of Spielberg, you're going to love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've been tuning in every single season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love this show and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, and, you know, and so I want to touch back up on, uh, that whole thing that you mentioned about Mike,

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[SPEAKER_00]: as well with the internal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, my seven, the first season, if you remember, Mike says him in the first season, it's not our fault.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't like girls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, obviously that's a hurtful thing to say, but I think they, I thought they're all always somewhat new and kind and they accepted like, you know, what extent they did in the 80s, you know, they never brought it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, I think in that moment, it wasn't more about him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I go back to the scene before that with him and his mom, or he's telling her, look, I think it's more of the fear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is not him coming out as gay more than it's him getting rid of the fear of losing everybody if he does and they don't accept him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that a external struggle of what happens afterwards?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, after a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just going to turn away from will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody love will in that room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody knows it's a good thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like even with, oh, what's her name?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she's a blanking now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Robin Robin with Robin to be honest with yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't only be honest with yourself, but also be honest with everybody else and here's the thing I'm in as a straight person and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I managed to find something that I

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm saying, like, trying to talk to my friends about how I feel about something and just the emotional stuff, I found myself tearing up a little bit because of that, you know, I don't know if he's going to be able to take care of take over the mine flare now this is a two hour and thirty nine minute episode for the finale, but my thought process is this maybe the first half thing that this is like a football game right first half will does not take down the mine flare, he guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he gets in himself and stuff like that where he's like I'm weak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I can do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just now one of these powers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know understand these powers myself, which you also winds up telling everybody, hey, look, I'm not no sorcerer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but at the same time though, maybe he's at internal struggle of like, okay, how can I beef myself up to where I can take them out, mine, take down the mine player?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If there is something bigger and better than Dicna, right now we're thinking that Dicna's the big bad, but what if there's something else after Dicna that they have to face?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will put it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think your football terms are really good, but I also think camping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in a D&D state, they're setting will up for the D20 rolling back now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they're setting him up for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to roll with D20, but he's going to fail a few times in this last fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because there's going to be minions between them and back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's going to fail a few times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when they get to back, that's when he's going to roll the D20.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when he's going to do the big thing that's going to, I really do think that's what's going to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think their setting will up for the D20 roll.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you would be cool, D&D terms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, since you know what though, I like the D&D terms better than my old family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they were any when they went, you know, when, um, lady Apple Jack comes in and they have the whole conversation about do I do I roll to a roll and they roll when you get the 20.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what they're setting that moment up, not literally die if Erica winds up winning the whole thing like she didn't D&D.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's my favorite character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're a two favorite character, too, dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm my favorite girl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My her SaaS and her just I'm not taking crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ready by.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what this, let's say, let's pick it a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I also like how her brother is over there looking at the popcorn because they're trying to think of a plan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then just as he's thinking of a plan, Erica's also thinking of a plan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She sees Dustin with the science teacher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the science teacher's always involved in every season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't even know what he's involved in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's part of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now, this last episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This season, he's a vascular part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has no clue what's going on at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Mr. Clark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has no clue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No clue at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what I like is the fact that he doesn't, he's not in the knowing of all through all through the seasons, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's another thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's helpful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's helpful, he's definitely the best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can go this guy in one o'clock in the morning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's gonna end up helping you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, look, you have friends with me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me help you out with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm going to say this, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love how you have Lucas that comes out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because okay, remember that one time when we were trying to take down Max's brother and we put him inside the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where's the thing that I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I

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[SPEAKER_01]: She gets a lot of stuff like that, I love it so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she goes, what if we go on ahead and get a Mr. Clark involved since he knows about science and he also told me about black holes and see what we can do and they take Murray of all people to go with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't understand that choice, but I do like, but you know, what though, I like how when owner writer's character winds up saying, hey, look, why don't we take two darts and see what we can nail

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's both ideas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly, again, not to keep being the dead horse, but D&D.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is D&D through and through all of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is not the part of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when that plays D&D back in college, yeah, it's right on D&D.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I love those little flavors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love those little flavors, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that, but the girl that plays Eric of that actress, I'm telling that little, that kid is a star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Erica's so annoying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Sassy, yes, she's, she grew on me through a season three in the mall and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when she grew on me as a character that I really loved her sass and I really loved seeing the back and forth dynamic between these characters as he how they interacted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I love about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it's the little sister, but it's your friend little sister.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't really be mean to her, but you can talk some, you know, you can talk some crap back or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can talk some crap that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fine, you know, and then

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like how he's Mr. Clark is over there being in the library and then you have I'm sorry you just look did you put you in the

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's not this key moments that I really do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like how, you know, we now are now, we talked about that, no, we talked about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then you also have the annoying character once we said, we were talking about this a little bit at the beginning about how we wanted 11 sister to be gone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And remember when they were at the church, she starts smack talking is like, well, they're gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where's your friends now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you just show back up after season two and telling us, no, I didn't trust her when the very beginning, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did not trust her again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just remembering what how 11 left them and just kind of went on a rune and I just don't feel like she has any love for 11 at all, like, I don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I don't know who she's working with or even she might be just working on for her purposes at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like not even working with anybody just seriously like just being like, no, I just don't like you at all because of what you did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that could totally be what's happening right now, but she is not on 11th side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: no, she's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's out for herself for the sense when like I but what other stuff actually stands out to you and even the guys in the chat tell me what else you guys want to talk about because so many just fun action scenes the action scenes were great them in the building splitting up and going upstairs downstairs before all the stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really good fun stuff with the I mean it's new too because you know everything was melting So they could bring that kind of effects in and Dustin and Steve having the moment with the latter where he saves on basically Yes, I want there's a really good stuff in these episodes really good stuff

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, thank you, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for subscribing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do appreciate you and I will be having a great night if you're on the if you're central eastern or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope that you have a great safe night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back again soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope that you got I hope that you stick around and thank you for sobbing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So my other thing I want to talk about, okay, we talked about the fact that they were, uh, but everything melting and stuff, I really felt like Nancy and them were going to really freeze the death in that place or get kind of wet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it looks like kind of wax.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it felt like I was thinking too kind of wax here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's immediately what I thought of when I saw the melting and stuff and just the way it looked

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I was shy and he but it was still like that, you know, like, right, when it was max access to starting the milk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, um, let's talk a little bit too about the this other world that that's not created because I do want to get into it a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when she pushed him through the wall through the portal that she created.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He created this world or he went to the upside down first and then he created this world went to the upside down first and Okay, that's where I'm a little confused.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they explained it in season four or five, but yeah, season four I think my bad not so many days of the powers, but it felt like the way it wasn't this see and the way they're explaining it now is that he

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[SPEAKER_01]: read it this world immediately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like basically he got sucked into the portal and then he created this world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's how I took them explaining it this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I was a little confused on the timeline because I thought he was in the upside down for a while first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then well remember 11 puts him through the upside down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we also have the architect, which is will do in the tunnels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we find that out in the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to put it up, yeah, which is sad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're the cool little time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did actually like that a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did like that touch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that made a lot of sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is like a land and a whole new world that they're not created.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Any creative wormhole, which takes us through, again, I hate to be a science star, but a super amount of energy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: so much effort to achieve that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's theoretically possible, but practically improbable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Simply, that's how science is basically described.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But no wonder why he, and then he's using these kids as like engines, like, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like vessels to be able to do whenever he needs them to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is another thing I do like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do like this a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is another cool thing that they're doing with this, with this character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I do think he shouldn't just

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too, but I think that he might still be the general.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's the big bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If that was the big bad, I don't think it would be getting a 2 and a half hour episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, because see, so what this reminds me of again, D&D, but the thing, this is almost like the face that he just created.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just created the fact, basically, like another dimension world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I know that some people were talking about the clause sticking out in this guy,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, uh, clod thing has like an easter egg to something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the the the the the symbol for Vekna is the hand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with the eye in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's the that's the cult of Vekna symbol and D&D lore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a lot of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, a lot of D&D easter eggs for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I don't even know them all are catch them all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do like the fact that they're trying to figure out a way to get up there, the Vietnam before they have the world's collide.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like how they're like, okay, which is another D&D thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another D&D thing where like worlds are collapsing into each other or like the bridges between worlds and collapsing, you know, that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, I don't know if this plan's going to work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't know if this plan's going to work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I like how they're all getting ready for battle through the clash and then there's like they're like really this is what we're going to wind up getting ready to do to do battle with this song and then Robin goes I have a better song and I also like how Robin is figuring this out with records is like with a hotly max and using the records.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like that part as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're rocking, rocking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a cliche 80s like DJ names go along with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I did, I did like though that that also, that's another interesting thing we didn't talk about is that they were using the radio station to send messages.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we talked about the first half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about that in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: little bit, but I just I love he's a little touch of them when they bring back back and show her the radius.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He likes showing her the Burke sound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was funny too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a good moment with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be back together really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like them being back together again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The gang is back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Max is okay now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though we now that now we're gonna.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She realized in that moment that he's so it was never that actual song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was hair, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's what she said to him basically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, basically she said that she didn't need the song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if she did lead the song, then why did the portal close when the song ended?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like what she kind of tells Holly, which is what you believe in the most.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like she believed it was the song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when she heard the song that connected her to him, but it was really in the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's all connected her to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think is what kind of they're kind of saying, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I like how Holly has that connection to something else with my giving her the the D&D character for her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's that's a cool moment with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I forgot about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's a big brother sharing something with her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That Max even said this because why do you think it's a stupid character when you're wearing it around your neck?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You must believe in it if you think of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Think about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And even what she says to her after that about, you know, like, yeah, you didn't, you didn't succeed in these moments, but you succeeded in these other moments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, you were brave in these other moments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, right, you were brave enough to go outside into the woods when you were told to stay behind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that classic thing of bravery, it's a, you know, it's a trope kind of a movie's to now, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is kind of true where, you know, bravery isn't that you're never that you're not scared.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that you're willing to do the right thing even when you are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, yes, kind of that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if it wasn't for Holly, matching up the mountains and everything and her fallen through, they wouldn't have known that, you know, to get into those memories with Holly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, and her always leaving the cap one thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, did, yeah, again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little thing, but it figured out a piece of the puzzle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it helped them in some way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you got to take those little wins too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, I just think that this was then, when Holly gets back into her body, and then,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay, there's no way she's going to escape.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If she almost once I'd be escaping, it looked bad and I was, I was so happy for her when she was falling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not that she was falling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that she got away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought she was getting away at that moment is what I mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought for sure, she was going to land on the school and she's going to go through the school.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, where was she got away?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then when she starts going back up, I was like, no, I was like, damn it, but they have to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got to give us something to go back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel bad for Holly once she gets back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're going to turn every one against her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Holly is sick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, she's not all there or anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She needs the love and support of others.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Derek wants to do something, but he can't, because Decta has leveraged over him, because he's afraid that Henry is going to go on ahead and kill his parents.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he has a choice, but to go with it, Holly's character gets ripped off for neck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just sad to see this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, braven a moment when she needs to be because he'd ever, she doesn't back down and say, oh, no, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just losing him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she stands around that whole time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And once again, not underestimated some another person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and it's, you know, it goes back to the will thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He told will, you know, I pray don't you because you're weak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he prayed on Holly because he thought she was weak too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and that's what which is weird because I never saw Max a week after ever so him praying what her didn't really make sense for that if it was for that reason at least none of that moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think at that moment he was looking for someone tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, so it was different reasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I was that this is me speculating this is no to learn anything like that, but coming at this makes sense, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to go if you're a general you want to go after someone that's tough that can handle shit, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Max was a tough girl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's been through a lot of shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's been through a lot of stuff with her brother.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And stuff with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if I'm going to recruit someone, I'm going to recruit someone that can handle her own, not only handle her own, but can has balls enough to stand against somebody as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to recruit Max.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then he's realized his way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I over step my boundaries with this one person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't need someone like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need someone that's different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So even though Will is also the week one in season one, you know, but I also feel like Vietnam was trying to like basically being Dexter's laboratory trying to experiment on what he wanted to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he's like, you know what, I already have one weekling, that weekling didn't really do that much for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he's buying for me, but I need someone a little bit tougher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he gets max.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Max didn't work out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know what, I need to go back to the drawing board get more weak kids and then screw that over and then I can add my vessel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, man, I don't know because they can bite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just never saw Max as weak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought her, she's not getting the season when with her brother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was a little bit weak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say only because he was, you know, the older brother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was just feeling her in general.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I never thought she was weak in those ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought she was smart by not provoking the book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you don't put the bear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I never really saw her as a weak in those movements, I guess, is for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Same here, you know, like I said, I'm calculating, like I'm not going to do anything to piss off the person that could screw me up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's see here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you think of the ending?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's going to be a ride, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the little break in final break in and then getting in and I like the moment with her not shooting too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do like the moment where she kind of like, all right, if you have to get back out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you do, but right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But do you think that the military guy is actually going to still follow orders with K because he's even questioning certain things that K is doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think but still this I think this this season's actually pretty good as far as Oh, I love this season's work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has little things to take here and there, but again, they're not enough to make anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not enough to make the show bad, like or make it, you know, bring the quality down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think anything in this in this season so far, this plot to quality down at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this show is right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: back to where it was last season in the season four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it actually enhanced the experience with everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the season is pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, maybe some of the writing might have been a little sloppy here and there in a sense, but that's that's Yeah, again, you kind of sometimes got to let those things go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just enjoy the ride and you know what though, I love this goopy due moments of like, oh, sure, of course you would want to be with Nancy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that was a good movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Scooby-Doo moments for me for that same work as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a lot that I can't say that I didn't enjoy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's a lot that I enjoyed with this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now we have a two hour break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They more good than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If there is any really bad bad, you know, there's some, again, like you said, there's some little writing things and some little liberties they take with, with reality, but whatever, it's a show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 11 has powers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're past reality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to have to have fun with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have a question though, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you see any of the other characters dying off or anything other than the ones that the one that we want kill off?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one that I honestly think would be the biggest shocker, honestly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At least for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if anybody else would think it's a shocker, but I would actually think it was a shocker is choice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they actually did that and left them to a loan with like the rest of their lives, I guess, with like Will's family to grow up, basically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess at this point, or something like that, or Mike's family, I mean, grow up at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that would be a shock or plus that would punch the heck out of Hopper again, which would, you know, bring probably him and 11th closer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's something to do with that death if they did it, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: One last thing there too, one of the bring-up was, you know, I think that when you're doing your show like this, you know, it's just sometimes just to go ahead and enjoy it for what it is and rather than nitpicks or things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, there might be some things that I felt like, you know, with the, um, that they may be Hill back a little bit with certain things with not killing certain characters off, but I feel like you need to kill some character off at some point, this is not Cobra guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We, you actually have to count the characters a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But how do you feel about a spin-off show?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because here's a thing, I'm not that excited about a spin-off show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want this one to be basically going off from the sunset and that's the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm tired of spin-off, I'm tired of, I just want one show, just giving one show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wouldn't mind if this was like an anthology series when they first started off with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And basically, you have other stories within this universe while this set of some season one is doing their adventures, you get to see them and then this other Well, we'll call it campaign.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's other campaign characters are doing their own adventure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I wouldn't mind that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hear me out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So remember when the 70s show was out and they then they try to do that 80s show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they set them the next anthology work with seasons of the show in the 90s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they had in the 90s and not back to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To feel who comes and does something similar, I don't know, but that would be fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it should not do a spin-off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, I want to see a weapon the prequel, I don't want to see any of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I hope we're not same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to, I don't want another spin-off show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want one show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One idea show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is actually one idea I think they could do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The spin-off is not a spin-off of the show itself, but it's the, it's the Hellfire Club the Dustin years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, college years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, just like him and I like the him now being the freshman

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, we got a little bit of a touch of that, but I would like to see more of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a straight D&D show, basically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you people probably need to be in a D&D.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a YouTube channel, just want to write a D&D show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the highest pool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, yeah, I would be like, yeah, but I think that would be something to give you that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now, we don't need it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't need it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think of that one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we talked about Will getting into Vegas body and what did you think about him going, can I run, get, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm kind of, if you want it, but again, I don't think it kind of looks like something, from the 80s, it looked like this one thing talking to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, it's like, look, you do need to warn them, but after you warn them, break the dudes head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he should have finished the child, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he'd like to like energy to say what he had to say and that's why he couldn't finish it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, which sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they should have finished it right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree, but there was a funny means, though, where it's like, we know how we'll manage to get the perfect, you know, basically the perfect formation is him opening a bedrar pickles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be it as far as this goes, but guys, tell us in the comments how we're going to tell us where you guys think and don't forget to smash the like button, and don't necessarily want to say, we'll die, we'll die, always until next time guys, bye bye.

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.