Spider-Man: Brand New Day Review | Non-Spoiler + Spoiler Discussion
John and Rossie are breaking down Spider-Man: Brand New Day!
We start with our NON-SPOILER thoughts on the movie, including Tom Holland’s performance, the action, the story, and whether the latest Spider-Man adventure lived up to the hype.
Then we head into SPOILER territory to discuss the biggest moments, surprises, character reveals, theories, and what everything could mean for the future of Spider-Man.
🎧 If you haven’t seen the movie yet, you can still listen to the first half — we’ll warn you before the spoilers begin!
What did YOU think of Spider-Man: Brand New Day?
00:00 – Intro: Non-Spoiler vs. Spoiler Structure
00:41 – Tom Holland’s Best Performance?
02:53 – Street-Level Heroics & Life After No Way Home
05:48 – The Mutation of the Spider: Maturing Powers
08:00 – Scorpion Fight & Moral Struggles
10:32 – The Punisher’s Introduction & Chemistry
14:23 – Heartbreak at Ned’s Party
16:05 – Mystery at the Control Center: V-Max & Telepathic Jumps
18:50 – Jean Grey’s Manipulation: The Rooftop Scene
24:10 – The Hulk Returns: Angry Hulk vs. Geeky Hulk
27:50 – Peter & Frank: “You Like Chili?”
⚠️ 30:00 – SPOILERS BEGIN HERE ⚠️
31:22 – Geeking Out: The Civil War Comic Callback
32:32 – Night Nurse & Superhero Hospitals
35:30 – V-Max Revealed: Jean Grey’s Backstory
38:23 – The Rossie Takeover! (Technical Hiccup & Flow)
38:54 – John Returns: Connecting with Jean Grey
41:10 – The Shot: Spider-Man’s Sacrifice
43:35 – Movie Runtime Discussion & Ranking
45:00 – Closing Thoughts & Fan Questions
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[SPEAKER_01]: So today, Rossing and I are going to be doing our non-spoiler review slash boiler review for 5 me and brand new day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the first step is actually going to be non-spoiler than the 30 minutes after that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be spoiler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you haven't seen it, I recommend that you come back and check it out later on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what's up, John.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's a much higher than Rossi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So excited to talk about Spider-Man, Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm bringing the name of the Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love this movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is probably Tom Hall's best performance as Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I mentioned in my non-spolar review guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't checked out that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was actually literally crying in the movie theater.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was crying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was laughing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This movie knew what it wanted to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also feel like this as well, that it wasn't too joke, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like when I watched Thor on Love and Thunder, I hated that movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like it was an SNL skit, only that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also felt like whenever I'm just using this as a reference, but whenever Thor's girlfriend has cancer,
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, oh, she has cancer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's tell a joke now, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so with this movie, what's by remembering day though, they actually do give it time to breathe and let you have those serious moments to where you care about what's going on in Peter's life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is something that I really thought that they took time and care of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I like this so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, going to the movies is such a, such a fun thing, you know what I mean, getting ready, you know, getting prep to go, getting your popcorn, and knowing that you're going to go see Spider-Man, you know, so excited, and so getting in a theater, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The movie comes on and it's just this pleasure of when you know you're about to see a really good movie and I actually love Tom Holland as Spider-Man and I love how at the beginning of the movie, you know, you're getting to see a little bit of his life, but also I love the montage of
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[SPEAKER_00]: Spider-man going out there, solving a crimes, web and around the city, I love that they do that because it gives you the excitement for the plot that's getting ready to start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree, and I think that that's one of the things that they handle very well with this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also like the fact that this is actually your street-level Spider-man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not how it was before, where they're having all this mystical stuff happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the brawler spider me and with these brawler type characters in it works and lands and like you said, right from the beginning of it, we actually have it where it's starting off where we left off with Spider man no way home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where, you know, he's missing his friends he has no friends he doesn't have is that may any more to be able to be there for him just as with Ned and MJ.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His friends forgot about him because the spell that Dr.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Strange casted over that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now he has no one to go to a turn to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're trying to find himself in this world without his friends and trying to figure out who he is again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I like the world building that they did with this and giving the layers to Tom Holland to be able to do this in him going through our Instagram Instagram and everything missing net missing NJ and it reminds me of us going through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those type of situations of us missing our friends and wondering what they've been up to and knowing that you can hang out with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, yeah, no, you know, when you talked about, you know, shedding tears, you know, because it is points where you just feel so sorry for Spider-Man for Peter, but the fact that you see what he does every day, you know, going and visit Aunt May every day to show you, you know, his life like he said without his friends, but the fact that he's still around them, they just don't know him, they just don't know each other anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He lives such a lonely life and, you know, I felt for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like the way that the movie delve deeper into the emotions, his mentality, how he was dealing with things and how that affected his abilities to be Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree and that's something else that I want to talk about, even with his own mental health as well because even the cops said, don't you ever stop working?
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is who I am.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know when to stop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like us as adults going into a photo because we think we're like this with the homecoming of Spider-Man, which is basically said in high school, which is a coming beige film with Peter Parker and our induction to him and then get him again, whenever he's doing the graduation thing for far from home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming of age stories.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he's reaching
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to be able to rely on his friends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have anybody there to actually help them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the only thing he knows how to do is work in this mental health state of him as an adult now, having to go through stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I like that whole entire thing and also like the whole idea of the spider being the mutation of the spider as he's getting older and the video being played.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and I just thought that was interesting of the fact that he's maturing just as the spider that's in the video is also maturing and changing, which is also allowing his own bloodstream also to be changing as well because he's going through these changes, so I like what they did with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I really like how they did that, and I like how they showed, well, first of all, back to him having the issues that he's having going through the mental things that he's doing that's affecting his body to where he can't perform as Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's interrupting his whole insights, but back to the whole,
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[SPEAKER_00]: spider thing and him looking at the screen and you know wanting that to be turned off because it's too close to home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But how you start to see the change, the eyes going going black to where it's a more dangerous spider man because he doesn't have his emotions and feelings and check.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is a guy that has kept everything in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's by himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't get the talk to anyone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No one gets to know who he is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a life, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even the kid is like, even one of the kids goes, I want to be like Spider man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm like, as a kid, you're thinking, yeah, this is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get to say people I have super powers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then you don't deal with the whole entire thing 24 seven of these powers over taking you and to the point of your breaking point and everything's in height is height to the point where you're hearing everything around you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not using your powers like you were before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and you can't do the things that you were doing because of those powers being heightened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, it's just a whole environmental struggle and the kids, you know, little kids don't see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They see this, and that's something I really think that they captured is like, you know, the kid is like us as the audience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, it'd be awesome to have super powers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then going into real life is like, no, I do not want superpowers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not want this weight of this world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every decision dictate who I am based on a decision that I make that could actually kill somebody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it almost did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, you realize how bad it was for him when he arrives at that fight with who he thinks is scorpion at the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's the way he's flying through the city.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His web's not working.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's he's a little messy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's falling, you know, directly onto the scene and get in his ass kicked by by scorpion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you see that and then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: when it affects him and he takes that change and almost killed the officers that were coming to help you realize the problem that this is going to be as the movie goes forward and how he's going to be able to control that and maintain that because that's the other side which I thought was really actually interesting and fun was I couldn't wait for that other side to come out because it was it was pretty cool when he get really upset.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you see I actually got to McGuire vibes from that because of his power's being so in hiding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where he didn't know what he was doing either, but you're right about the whole thing of what Scorpion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like he's just one bad day from being another villain because of these powers over taking him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually laugh whenever he's flying through the air and then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He crashed crashes onto a cop car and then he's trying to take down Scorpion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just went total nuts on hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he takes the tail rips it off and slaps it with the slaps him with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a WWE match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the cop is like, do you realize you almost killed another cop by the decisions that you made because of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also like the fact that, you know, he's trying to figure out why is he as powers doing what it's doing and then the science behind it and I've had something else I like a science behind behind all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because didn't he have to figure out and that's where Punisher came in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, I love the Punisher character.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love the fact that the joke between the two of them throughout the whole film is Spiderman, letting him know, like, remember when I saved you like I saved you and you know, Punisher is like, you know, forget about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but I love how they come together and that relationship that they had throughout the film and, you know, further along in the film where they have that back and forth joke in the hospital.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, go ahead, go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was actually something else I was worried about because I'm sure it's my favorite
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I watched the Netflix series of the Punisher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched everything with a Daredevil brand, brand new, not brand new day, but for and again, and you know, I was just worried that it was going to be watered down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was worried about the fact that wouldn't be as violent as it needs to be because that's who the Punisher is, but I think that the chemistry with Tom Holland and John
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also like the joke between them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember the time when I say stand island.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, forget about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the scene at the hospital will get to that when we do our spoiler review.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I actually had another geek out moment about that because it represents another comic book that happens to Peter and Frank is actually carrying them through the emergency room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we'll get to that in a little bit, but you're absolutely right, though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was just something I was worried about, but the chemistry works, I think it works with it, and then especially when Frank's about to say the upward and then that was great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, now I'm like, okay, now I want to see how they do did with the PG 13 with this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's one thing that I definitely wanted to mention and I wanted to make sure I love the fact that it was a family film, you know, the flubs that come up, they covered it up really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when I was at the theater, I had a family sitting right in front of me in a little kid's were like so excited to see Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the energy in the theater, you have people laughing, it was really quiet, but I really love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So kids can come out and see Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I also want to mention as far as the Punisher goes, you know, when you see that Spider-Man Peter Parker is going through this depression thing that he's going through, it was nice to know that the Punisher was going to be his friend because when the movie starts off obviously they're at odds, they can't stand each other, but I love the fact that you realize, okay, so he is going to have a friend because he does need a friend, he needs someone to help him and that's
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't want anyone to help him like he's he's got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got it all taken care of and that was this flaw was not asking for help.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was nice to know that the punisher was was going to be that help in that friend for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His dream.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with that because of the fact that you know, Frank is one of those guys is a one man army.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and he's hyper person is you fall down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to get back back up again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he needed that in his life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Peter made that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: dust yourself off and go after what you need to go after and he doesn't he doesn't sugar code he just goes on ahead and lets it out and that's what Peter needed and even whenever you see Peter just being Peter going over to Nitz party and then he ends up getting flowers for MJ and
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I felt bad for him because that's supposed to be him and feel like that he's an imposter in this world that he wants new and he's watching somebody else take his place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when that scene happens, you know, ends at the party, you know, there's a little bit of you that wishes that come on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys don't you remember them?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't you guys remember him, but of course they don't, but see in him, see, you know, MJ with someone else who's not a good guy anyways, you know, like I didn't like the guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm upset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm upset with Peter Parker about this, but that long stare that he just looks
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[SPEAKER_00]: this man, you get how in love like he loves MJ.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He absolutely loves her and he loves Ned too as best friend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that scene, I was just like kind of kind of hoping that one of them would remember him, but no, of course not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just sad that an heartbreaking for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then yes, you know, even though we don't know this guy, we It feels like that Peter's our friend and we're like, this guy is such a douchebag, even though we didn't do anything to him, right, but You know, we actually feel the same way that he does and I think they actually do a good job establishing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but else to stand to start up for you, because I know I did my non-spoiler review.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to get more of your thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, what would really got me is when we found out when the plot kicked in and you know, I thought it was interesting, um, oh gosh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they were at the the control center building when they realized the behind the bolt, whatever was behind that bolt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And remember it said a v v v v bent or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: V Max.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, the jumping of whoever that is, because we don't know whoever that is, I thought that was cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that scene of them jumping.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it was basically Jean Gray trying to jump through Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she gets into him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know that tour at the time, gets into him, but he was able to, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: half her jump out of him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember the person that she was, she was, you know, taking control of, looked at him and said, no one's ever, no one's ever to be, been able to fight that off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's when it got me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when a plot was like, I cannot wait to see where this is going, because I want it to know, what is going on here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was a coolest thing how telepathically
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree with you on that with the whole telepathic thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he also using his science to figure out how she's jumping in how far she can just yes, yes, I thought that was very smart of him to be able to do that right and you're also having that mystery element of like, who is this person, why is this person doing this and then you're also like this too, where you know, she's trying to get into Peter's head and she's he's the only one that she can't get into his head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that makes it even more unique is like I can get through to everybody else because they're so simple right with you I can't do that with and you know I was like that's kind of interesting I was thinking does she feel kind of like
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is scaring me to the point where I didn't use to have in my way, and now I can't have my way, because I can't get in your head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I like that element of that, and then she's also in his house, yes, and that's even more scary because now she's he's picking up stuff in his house and looking at his weaknesses, I think that they did a really good job of establishing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Peter's weakness and also heard being able to use that weakness to get to go ahead and go after MJ at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that now that scene, that scene was absolutely sad because he realizes that MJ is in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes and gets her there on the rooftop, you know, the top of the building.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm thinking as everyone else, oh my gosh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like they're together, she remembers him and what she goes up to and gives him a kiss and he's tearing up, he's crying and he cries in our arm, I'm crying as well, tearing up because this is what you've been waiting for, but then when you realize that it's gene gray and not MJ.
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[SPEAKER_00]: your I was angry pissed and I felt so bad for him because he just opened up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just told her how much he loved her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How much he missed her crying and that scene was that scene hit me hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Me too because it's the whole time manipulation of like, okay, well, I can't get in your head, but I can get into your apartment and I can figure out a weakness and your weaknesses is girl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Take her on love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm gonna go and play off a bad instead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then this is my, I was crying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like MJ, I love you, I miss you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then MJ's over there like, I missed you too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I love you too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, and then once you see that, I was like, I was pissed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Angry, yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because of the whole manipulation thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, then
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[SPEAKER_01]: She winds up wanting to throw in, Jay off the building, make her sell herself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Peter's over there trying to save her yet again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that people were like, oh, this is too mushy and stuff because of the whole MJ thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, and I'm bustling my friend Cody's balls, something that's against my podcast, because he was a pre him and I were talking, and I was just chatting back and forth with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm like, this is who Peter is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His weakness has always been MJ and has always been his name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're always, the villains are always looking to pull and break Peter's heart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it actually works on the way that string gray is actually doing this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And at first, whenever I was doing my debugging, I'm like, nah, they can't be gene gray.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They cannot be because there's another villain that does telepathic stuff too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then once I realized, I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay, I'm fine with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to enjoy the movie now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go on ahead and enjoy for what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they actually know what to do with this character.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they're establishing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: mall steps into getting into the X-Men Purdue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I do agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, at first, you know, thinking that it's going to be someone horrible, like some horrible villain, just, you know, monster light.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you realize it's Jean Gray surprised me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then when you get her back story, when she's sitting on a bench with her sister,
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[SPEAKER_00]: and they're sitting there in a park and then you start filling for her because you realize she's a mutant just you know the fact that they had their mother gave them up and how they came and got the sister and then her revenge on the control center whatever the company was her revenge and her sister saving her in the park that day by making her walk away so that they don't know that she exists.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I felt so sorry for her because then you get exactly why she's upset and then being upset expired, man, because he was responsible for helping to get her, you know, because him not, yeah, yeah, I'm not knowing that, you know, her story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was very interesting to me that that's what I got to say was it was interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't expecting that, but her story alone was really sad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So then at that part, I'm wanting her to get revenge for what they did to her sister.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree because all Spider-Man's doing is just trying to get criminals off the streets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not there to interrogate anybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just trying to do his job and he's also proud of the fact that he's getting these criminals off of there because crime is down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we see a montage of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We also see a montage of him buying flowers and going over it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but you know, he's just there to go and get criminals off the streets and doesn't know that anybody's back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So whenever she he wants to find that out he's like, Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the organization that was built to protect people and put these criminals behind bars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: are actually the bad guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not even knowing what I'm involved in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even the part where she's like, ah, isn't that interesting?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They built a weapon just for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that, you know, when Spider-Man realized, you know, that the head guy was lying to him when he went over, why would he say Sarah's name?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would he?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's when it kicks into him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I've been lied to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would he lie to me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we get that full story of or the scene where he goes and he's, you know, interacting with Jean Grey when the huge scene with the whole, who I absolutely love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that the fact that the Hulk was being taken over by Jean Grey, awesome scene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree because, you know, I think that was a great scene as well, but also I want to there's also so many great other moments though to permeate that's that works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about the potter shirt, but the Hulk seeing a banner cut him going over to banners thing as like, oh, there's a pluddle there because the fact that he remembers him no he doesn't he used a big name to get over to the college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: talk to Banner about using the technology to help him with his power to where he can actually be more balanced out and I really like the fact that Banner actually told him is yeah that would work and then doing and then finally Peter's going through like three or four different microchips just to get to the point where he needed and of course MJ's the one who wants
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, you know, I like how it's that balance and it still works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That chemistry, of course, they're married, but the chemistry between Sunday and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, uh, you know, I'm talking about Tom Holland.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fitting the technology that they both use.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then seeing Hulk be Hulk again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not speaking, Hulk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm like, yes, this is the angry Hulk that I've been wanting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then seeing Frank try to shoot him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have Spider-Man over there dragging him away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see the con just, you know, you know, you know, it was just funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just laughing my butt off of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a great scene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Seeing Hulk upset his tear and shit up was just, that's the Hulk that I love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that Hulk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also want to mention though, I want to go back to the fact that, MJ had to be protected because obviously Jean Gray knows exactly where she is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So going over to the Punisher side of the world and having a Punisher, basically litter hideout,
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[SPEAKER_00]: with him and him not wanting to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And him also knowing that, you know, Spider-Man has a thing for MJ, but I love the interaction between a Punisher and an MJ.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love the fact that, you know, they have the scene where, you know, she's like, you know, I kind of like him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, I kind of like her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that scene, but it was really sad, because remember, she also tells Peter Parker that
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't remember him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't know him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't love him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when she leaves, he just kind of stands there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at that point, it's like, wow, he did all that for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can't blame her for not remembering or knowing who he, who he was or who he is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but I love that interaction between three of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that actually, now that I was a, that was another thing I was wondering about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's, I was, this interaction is going to be good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the trailers and stuff, but how is this going to actually dominate over the screen when we watch it, right, and I really love what they did with that, even with the setting up the traps and him trying to get their Frank's place, the punisher's place, and then you're like, she can't stay here, let me, you know what John Carlos always that guy who wants to tell somebody something, I'm surprised and say let me tell you something, you should not stay here, let me tell you something Peter, but no, he is up saying,
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[SPEAKER_01]: hit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can't stay here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, she's going to stay here because she has nowhere to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to be off the grid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that heartbreaking scene, though, too, where she's like, I need to talk to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to talk to Peter Peter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that heartbreaking scene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, he, I like the fact, too, is like when Jean Gray tells him, well, if you kiss her,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm thinking of myself is he going to kiss her to try to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I like how he's respectful towards like, look, I'm not going to do that to her or anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is how she feels is how she feels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I cannot change her mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Alicia was open and honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love that they end up, she end up bringing him back to her place, you know, um, uh, and Ned, you know, I love the Spider-Man track track that she made, you know, I love the scene where MJ goes into the place and he's like freaking out because he's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, Spider-Man's nearby, and she's trying to tell him he's like, no, Spider-Man's like, and Spider-Man shows up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love them sitting there, and I love the fact that you get to see Peter Parker, Spider-Man, just be, just be, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hangin' out with MJ, Nets there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't remember him, but I love that they have such a good time together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just, he's enjoying himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't wanna leave.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when MJ shows the picture of them and saying basically, it's like you guys have known each other forever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that scene and I tear it up in that scene because I was happy to see, you know, Spider-Man just have a break and he just just to be, you know, with friends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I thought it was awesome that he was like, sure, I'll come up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that too, because it has like a piece of his life back again, that is, yes, yes, he feels that holding this now, even though, and she's not with him, he has saw at least she's in his life at some capacity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you also have that connection with Ned and him doing the legos again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then her drawing him this this was a perfect scene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then with I know we talked about the whole thing with Frank inside the ship and with yeah, you know, with trying to hide MJ, but the other thing I like was like, are you going to help in?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to help?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm not going to help him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't need my help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she's like, remember that time in Santa Island?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can't even get away from it with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you know, and I agree with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He needs help.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to tell you that he needs help.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And come to find out he needed help.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love how Punisher's irritated and also love the fact that, you know, when he did say MJ can come up, you know, and she came up and she, you know, was going through his, his stuff and, you know, saw his family asked, ask him, is that your family?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's very, you got to very personal to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't touch his stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he has chili, you know, he has chili.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, like any time John Berthler goes, let me tell you something and then he always wants to tell you something, but this time he just goes, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a scene where Frank is actually carrying Peter Spider-Man into an emergency room and he's bullied up and I'm like, oh my gosh, even though this is not so a war, they're brought it into this, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yes, I've loved this moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My stepguard just looked at me like I'm losing my mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm like, this is a call back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a call back to the Civil War comic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think even though it was in the Civil War movie, they brought it back over here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I showed some kind of nostalgia for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was all for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then seeing you frank, sleeping in the same room, where Peter's actually laying down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I've got a plan for you, kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he puts the mask on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know some people were playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, Frank is supposed to be this most wanted person, but how the hell is he in a hospital?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I don't know if you know about nightmares.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so nightmares is basically a character that only works on superheroes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she has her own practice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was actually in the Daredevil series
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, play by Zoe Zadana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, that's that's what I'm thinking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that they're in this hospital that's only for superheroes, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that also explains why Frank is there too, because even though he's not considered a superhero because of the fact that he doesn't have powers or nothing, but he's still inside that hospital area to where you don't know where about security, you don't
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[SPEAKER_00]: that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my theory again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Once again, my theory, I'm not making this 100% but that's what I'm thinking you're to make it more sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, even with that scene, you know, you realize, you know, why Spider-Man protects his identity, why, you know, when he's, you know, in the room, you know, on the ship with MJ and there's a curtain between them, while his mask is off, because for scenes like him being able to walk out of the hospital,
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[SPEAKER_00]: No one has a clue who he is, but I love when you look up and you see Frank and the window.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, that was so funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was hilarious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love the little kid that's on his dad's uh, on his dad's back and he looks over at Peter Parker and says,
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[SPEAKER_00]: and does the movement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was, yeah, that was so cute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But him, him coming out of that hospital and realizing the love that New York has for him, I was happy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted him to fill that because we love Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this character and this, this superhero is one of your favorites.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He, he wouldn't harm anyone that doesn't do anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good, you know what I mean, he's like you said he's only after the bad people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you love Peter Parker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You love Spider-Man, but seeing him walk out and just kind of in awe of the people there for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when he looks up and sees Prick and Frank in the window, wearing the mask and doing all the moves and he was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, and then, I know we were talking about some of the funny stuff, but then you get into the whole thing with Sadie Sinks character, which he knew right, and then she's like, you killed my sister, I'm looking for the, and all this time we're thinking she's looking for that file, right, and then you find out it's not a file, it's actually got the prison cell in which they were interrogating her sister, which they died because they killed her to get the information that they needed because they dug to deep into her head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it was the VMAX, which is actually the VENT.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that was in the cell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, throughout the whole film, you know, you're hearing about VMAX, VMAX, VMAX.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, me, I'm wondering what the hell is VMAX until she's sitting in that cell and that glass box and she looks up and it's the VENT.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so she realizes her sister, that's where her sister was and and the fact that you find out that they killed her sister.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've taken her powers away because thanks to Spider-Man, she has that thing on her neck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she just she can't do anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But don't they take it off because they're texting her jumping skills and if she can still jump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because remember, they said, I never knew someone that could jump this much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they kept on going further and further with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The point where now, teen is now in control of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I thought that's was actually her dark Phoenix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you know what the dark Phoenix is or anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But is that I just wonder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So basically a James Gray's power is goes 10 times worse than what this is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, basically, when she's pissed off, you guys will say at the end of the world is coming because you're seeing destruction coming around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're seeing people dying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see everything she has ripping havoc.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whenever her powers are out of control.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the dark Phoenix.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was thinking, oh, are they going to do the dark Phoenix with this to the point where she doesn't know how to control her abilities enough to wear now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: professor X, which is the expense school to be able to control of powers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was what I was thinking that they were going to try and do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, because I was thinking of the dark Phoenix and matter of fact, that was actually, you know, and they're going to run thought.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think the power that she had when she was able to overtake them, I want it her to get the head guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when she wheeled him in there, just like brought him in there, and he's sitting there, and she has the the glass from everything breaking just kind of frozen
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was so happy because once you realized what she went through and why she's there and her sister dying, you want her to just have it on all of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Spider-Man ends up coming in that room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The scene that really hit me the most was when she was able to jump inside a Spider-Man telepathically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have the scene of him in the room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, they showed that scene over and over again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She wants a mom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's never had mom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Her mom gave her up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that scene was really important for her because she was also able to connect with Spider-Man and to see that he too lost someone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're kind of going, they're mutants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they kind of have the same issues, the loneliness, all of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I cried during that scene because I hurt for her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to have crying with that scene because it's like, hey, you're not alone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have people that care about me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm always going to be here for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I haven't goose bumps right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right over again, it was emotional scene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was it hit me on such an emotional and I didn't find myself thinking that it would have that would ever happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I just love the fact that you allowed her into his head finally and was like, you know, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand now, yeah, I'm not by myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You had someone that cared about you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I can actually have that too, but it's gonna be with you as a friend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to help me with this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and you know, you have Frank set up, you know, because Frank has, he may not be a superhero, but don't test them with his artillery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he has everything, but oh, my gosh, when he takes that shot and Spider-Man moves
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he falls down and you see Spider-Man blood, like you know what I mean, I'm thinking he's gone he's a gone or he he's done with and then and the scene that we've been talking about the whole evening basically guys, the the scene where Spider-Man's in a hospital, which is a funny scene ever being able to see him wake up and
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[SPEAKER_00]: her doing that, her being in him, giving him that breath of life back and making sure he's okay before she takes off and leaves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The film was just, do they, they did just such a great job putting everything together, everything together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I want to talk about that too because Frank thought that he lost his friend, he thought that he lost fear and to know that he was
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so him taking them to the hospital, he's like, please don't let me screw this up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, I mean, I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that they knew what they were doing with this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also want to talk about the fight scenes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the fight scenes were one of the best fight scenes that I've seen in a while, though, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because it reminded me of that Spider-Man video game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that we play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, by the way, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, absolutely in the very first by the man as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it has so much of that going for itself that used the same technology from the video game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This has nods to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's well, this movie knew what it wanted to be and knew it's identity and knew it's target audience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see how anyone cannot rate this low.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do that
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we've been waiting a while for a new Spider-Man film.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you have so many criticisms of films that come out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was hoping that this was a good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a solid film.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I haven't seen a Spider-Man film that hasn't been a solid film.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've up to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've liked them all, even earlier, Dave's of Spider-Man in the mid 2000s or early 2000s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: there you go, yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've all been great, but this one here, what a great comeback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a great film.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the way that they put it together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fight scenes I have to say, and I was telling my husband, those are my favorite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm up in my seat, just excited because they gave you that action a little bit of whitt, you know, whittiness, what Spider-Man, and then this love story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They gave it all to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My only complaint that I have was I just felt it was too long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was my only thing, but I do understand what a film like this, you know, you're not going to be done with it in an hour 45.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not, you know, you need that full two hours and 20.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, one minute that it ran, you need that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was my only complaint because I really had no other complaints about the film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, what though, I was actually thinking to myself once the whole thing with Peter taking her to
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[SPEAKER_01]: the government officials stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, this movie's done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I looked at my step on my, I'm just letting you know that I stay for the credits because it leads into something else for the next movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, that's where we still going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was my thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was my, I mean, after a while, I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can wrap this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can wrap this up in credit, because they always show you know where we're going next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if it's going to be an X man, if it's going to be another, whatever they let you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but yeah, that was my only complaint other than that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't feel the runtime in this movie, like I did with disclosure day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What this was your day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt the runtime.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been saying this even in my Odyssey review, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't run time with the Odyssey, but with this in this movie, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't feel the runtime, but the disclosure day I'm like, okay, Steven, come on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a clock now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's wrap this up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I get it aliens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Woo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, I have one, I'm hungry now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ran out of my popcorn about two and a half hours ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I need my, but with this, I was entertained.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this is the best spider made that I've seen in a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a while until I rank them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm coming off it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I rank just like I ended up giving this like a five out of five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I really get five out of five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know, I know that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't do five out of five for the sake of giving a five out of five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this movie deserved it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, this was, and just, you know, out of all some of the blockbusters, this is one that I'm happy that I was able to go see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a great kind of, you know, kids are going back to school now, so it was a great film for them right before they went back to school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I enjoyed it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely, and I loved Tom Holland at Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And MJ, the whole cast, it was just great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree and I have a question for you though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this has nothing to do with the thing, but you know, I think this is my question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you were to rank this one above with no way home, which one would you watch first, would you watch this one again first, or would you watch no way home?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, definitely no in home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No way home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched that again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I can see that because in the South of Pactor, you have all the vitamins there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, if I'm not going to go nostalgicly, I would actually go with this film first if I wasn't going to go nostalgia because of the emotional aspects of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And because of what they did with this film and it was so great, different than what we got from the other Spider-Man movies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I find that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But as far as your analysis as far as this goes, what would you give it out of it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would give it a four out of five and only because of the runtime for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Other than that, it Like I said, I don't have any complaints about anything that happened in the film.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was kind of concerned with how is this going to come together?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is the major plot going to be Then finding out the plot?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It gave you a little bit of everything and Yeah, it was I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Same here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my question for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you like Spider-Man, brand new day, tell us in the comments below.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, too, do me another favorite guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, what was your favorite moments?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was your some of the things you might or not like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was some little nitpicked things?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it the runtime?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it because of the overuse of the GD word or something?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell us in the comments below.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to actually know we both would like to know what your thoughts are and tell us
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[SPEAKER_01]: comments, both comment back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this movie is fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Check it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of great moments in this movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't wait to get out with you over this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know me too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, I'll have Jason from it's not that bad podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be finishing up our once upon a time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mexico review.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you haven't checked out our al-marayachi reviews, check that out because we got the al-marayachi in the
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[SPEAKER_01]: finishing that up tomorrow night and I'll probably have that out probably sometime next week or for the audio in the video, right guys?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Have a great save night and we'll catch you guys in the next
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