Resurrection 1X5: Murder Horny Review

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[SPEAKER_01]: and hello, movie lovers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking to show it today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually have my good friend, Anna Stasia here with me, Jason's out of town, but he'll be back next Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're here to talk about murder or horny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's go in ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about murder or horny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anna, let's do this, guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And hey, Anna Stasia, welcome back to the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're very welcome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good to have you back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that we ended up talking about a lot of stuff that happened with the last episode and we predicted some of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then some of it just felt through a little bit, but I like how we came up with some of the predictions and some of them came true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about for you?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm so happy by how this episode kind of morphed.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, not to get too far ahead, but it not happy like Dexter probably isn't that happy, but I am as a fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As a Dexter fan, I am definitely happy with the way it went down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the fact that it opens back up to Dexter and Harrison having that competition where he's about to turn himself in and Dexter's like Harrison, what are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't not turn yourself in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they wind up going back to his house and I was thinking to myself as they are doing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Dexter's just thinking that they can just go ahead and just go about like, father and son relationships go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is a very different father and son relationship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Your father's a serial killer who also told your son to shoot you in the woods.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now he's dealing with trauma because of things that you told him to do and he actually owns up to the fact

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[SPEAKER_01]: of what of that too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's like what I like about that too is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dexter also owns up to the vet table.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I screwed up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the one who told you this shoot me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're dealing with the anxiety of that in on top of killing somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And also like this whole, this other thing too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just the fact that, you know, he's like, well, I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you want to get up by the eat?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, what makes you think that we can actually do this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You need some time to process things and Dexter's just like going all in father mode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what did you think?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, obviously the character of Dexter, he's missing a couple things and he processes things at a faster rate and different than normal human being, especially like movie teenagers or however old Harrison is.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, how shocking to think that you killed your father and then all of a sudden, when you're about to put everything out on the line,

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's alive, you know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So that's crazy and enough itself.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so I understand how Harrison needs time to process and he's like, I need some time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I can't just like jump back into like the sun roll and have everything okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: some trauma that's happened.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And we've got to talk through this in my time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I mean, that's kind of what I love about Dexter too is that he kind of owned up to the mistakes that he makes as much as he can.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He has his own trauma and he's obviously missing things that normal people go through.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But he's dealing with it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think his best is they can.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I like that with the character that he wants to be like a good dad is good as he can be.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's trying his best right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I got on that though, too, is like, hey, I want to be the best father that I can't be, but I can't be that father for you right now, because you're not allowed me to with a good reason, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Harrison's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like the fact that he's like looked at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also having anxiety about this watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have this watch that's on me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all I can hear is the fucking ticking sound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then also, too, I like how he said this to next year, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, man, you're like a fucking harm movie villain.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to make a motion with that because he's huge Jason Voorhees fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm kind of curious about that when he comes back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and just like dark comedy of that aspect of it, and then he explained him, he looked at the because of this, no, because of the cold, I was able to survive the shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're just in the scientific way of actually explaining it to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, it's just a picture of why I'm taking the watch from Harrison, he's like, look, let me hold this hold on to this for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like how he's this fatherly being that he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like at first he's not doing it for himself or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing it for a son to take away the anxiety that his son's having with this watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you see here the watch tick and then as he's taking away from him, I like how it fades away just calming Harrison a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I like how they played with that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: and deathster like totally takes control and protects hairs.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And you know, like I just like, you know, as like a dance, I just like these type of like physical movements that, you know, it's a deeper meaning, you know, like a father's embrace, you know, our parents embrace.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so he's shielding Harrison from that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: and obviously that Harrison's guilt because on one hand he wants to protect that young woman who is going to be assaulted and then on the other hand he doesn't want to kill like he doesn't have those instincts those like he doesn't have that hunger

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[SPEAKER_05]: or that it extra has exactly yeah so he's just obviously like rolling that around in his head and trying to make peace with it but yeah I think that's safest with Dexter but you know I don't love or Dexter decided to like keep well actually I mean

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm talking about later on.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He decided, like, hang in in an area.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Am I getting too far ahead, maybe?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So like his, he gets another kind of like trophy case, right with his slides.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he decides to hide them where the where his landlords and their daughter.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's where she likes to hide stuff.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm like, okay, are you guys just like,

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, something's gonna happen, cause like, also, that family is a little not everybody, but like the mom, she's Snoopy, which is fine, cause like, I wanna know who's living in my, like- Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So that's valid, but just knowing how they work as humans, it's like, okay, I feel like we're gonna have some kind of confrontation, and I hope he does happen murder in him, some.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, I don't see him murdering the family, not intentionally murdering the family, but

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but there's been cases where he has to kill people to cover people.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, we're bad people, right?

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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's like he'll choose himself or his fan, you know, at the end of the day, he's gonna self-preserved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's a good point that you bring up though, too, because the mother is newbie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've seen that he she did the whole entire background on Dexter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it's like, well, I was snooping on my daughter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I make sure thing I'm not going to snoop on you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's could be something that he gives himself away, or he she feels like, maybe the mother feels like, okay, this dude's coming off kind of creepy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to investigate this further, but I need to go down into where he lives to find out if there's anything more about him.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, because you know, like, because I understand.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, parent move is that you're going to go sneak into like your kids room to see if they're doing anything bad.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe the mom, maybe surety knows about her daughters like where she keeps her pot and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I feel like they're building up to that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I hope not also because I feel like that just it's just too easy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, like, I don't think that takes some work and I didn't see coming because that's the problem with these things.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, I see a lot of this stuff coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Me too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like paying by the numbers kind of deal right where we can see certain things coming because of a pattern that we've seen and all the other extra series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can definitely understand that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, once Harrison walks off, then he gets to call from Detective Wallace.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because remember he ends up calling her and he hangs up because oh, never mind, I just changed my mind and like dude, you get screwed up again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because of the fact that, you know, you call up the detective and you want to turn yourself in and then after that you change your mind because you want to turn yourself in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're telling her that you changed your mind about why you keep wanting to come in and talk to her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you had to make a BS story, the back track, everything, which doesn't even fall in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's all over the place.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's probably suspicious, you know, that he's hiding something.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, obviously, she's

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's so many characters in this series where I'm like, okay, they're just like a ticking time bomb for when Dr.'s gonna strike and like get them out of the way because they just keep on becoming a problem.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Can we talk about Lady Vengeance and yes, in St.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Twist?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind jumping around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can definitely tie my lady vengeance because, you know, you me and Jason were all talking about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, maybe they'll team up and sure enough, they were going to team up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Harry's like, I don't know about this, Dexter, you're teaming up with another serial killer to and teaching her how you do things, even though you're not red, you're teaching her how red supposedly does things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was also thinking this to it like the ballet because remember because you want to see one late because oh, that's the most boring is news fest that you can actually go to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, either you don't like delays in your lying about who you are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was strike one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dexter should have actually seen right through her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, she says she likes ballet based off the news report.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's into this there stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In reality, she isn't so she isn't who she says she is and then they go on a date for polling and I love the bowling aspect of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought that was kind of cool, like Diction is like, okay, I finally get my chance to actually score.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And with her, this is I'm throwing this strike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she winds up blowing a strike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, she winds up saying, hey, look, but no, we team up and kill some people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, and he's singing himself well, I can't just kill someone on random.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has to be someone that is innocent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he's singing himself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he also doesn't want to give himself away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I like how he was, wait, you don't know reflection hoodie like I do.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that was really safe because I was like, how was he going to talk himself out of this one for you?

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[SPEAKER_05]: So like ready to go and like almost desperate for the next kill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you see, that's what I was thinking too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, how are you going to do this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you going to tuck yourself out of this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's even got like the shot shot as well to actually knock around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But how do you do that when you're in the back seat?

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[SPEAKER_01]: and stuff and you're going to try and do this.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then he's going to have to try to think about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, this doesn't work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but I like how he ends up playing it off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked, you know, no reflection, reflection, hoody, like I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Your face is going to be shown, so we cannot do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he wants up chicken and out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's like, well, I'm out for blood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So lady vengeance goes over to another nightclub, finds this stock market guy and brings him back home for some bondage time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought it was interesting on how Dexter frames her for the killing that Harrison did just as he'd framed docks for being the Bay Harbor butcher.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, yes, let's back up just a tiny bit.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So like the whole revelation that she doesn't have a code that she's just a killer for blood.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And doesn't matter if he would is was totally crazy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And as a female fan, I was like, yeah, she's gonna die.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because I was in my way.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, no, Dexter.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You don't need a girlfriend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I looked at my wife that we were in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is when I said to her, said, she's going to wind up on this table.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Totally.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, so the whole like, okay, from

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[SPEAKER_05]: from rethinking about it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I should have saw that part coming that he was been a plant.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, the watch on her to cover Harrison.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But that was a total surprise.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, yes, good job.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like he's being like a great dad, you know, like totally rooted.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Mother of the year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, at the end of the day, we all want, I mean, Dexter fans all want to see Dexter get away with it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And that includes a family at this point, you know, it's like no matter what everyone else can just like fly off of a cliff, I want Dexter and Harrison to be okay at the end of the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: exactly because we also want anticipating to, is he going to get caught?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the ending for Dexter for this season?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's also what we're anticipating as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the thing that I like was whenever you had the watch on one hand, and then you have the needle in the, uh, it's like, I was actually thinking this is like his old life was the needle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His new life is this New York City, which represents the watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is like, do I need to go and be a serial killer of out for blood?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do the new way with the watch of my hand and take the ways of taking trophies or do I continue doing what I normally do and have the syringe in my hand?

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[SPEAKER_01]: is kind of like that counterbalance of how do I approach this, which I thought was pretty neat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how I represented the needle to the watch and that one scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?

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[SPEAKER_05]: So interesting.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I feel like just because at that once Dexter woke up from a coma, he had a fork in the road.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He had two choices either to go on his merry way and not be a dad just like be singular and go to his bench

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[SPEAKER_05]: killing, which is, you know, old school dexter or go find a son and make a man.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so I kind of felt like he's always going to choose at this point, you know, his son and protecting his son.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because yeah, you can see like there is maybe a little, a little bit of an edge, but also his mark

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[SPEAKER_05]: was, you know, what's in it?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Mia or, um, you know, lady revenge?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, lady vengeance, uh, let's go.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then there we go.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but yeah, so.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Everything, I feel like when he was trying to talk to her and then they were trying to find a target together.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, like, all of that was fake.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It didn't feel like truthful in his sense because we all know he has to build the kill.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's got to build his, you know, to do like shooting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to build right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to build his case before he kills somebody and know that they're innocent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And even he ends up asking her, are the people that you're killing innocent as well?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This fine, what do you mean by innocent?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, evil is she.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it started out as righteous because we get a little hint of her background, but I feel like that was always, it was just gonna be a matter of time because she is so in, she's so bloodthirsty, you know, just the vibe that we get from her.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like when she's done masking and pretending about who she is, which she led her guard down with Dexter, which was a mistake.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But when she was finished doing that, like how, like insane and chaotic and just wanting to kill to kill, you know, she was sloppy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's not true.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Dexter is very calculated.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Everything, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything has a motive, everything has a reason.

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[SPEAKER_05]: A motive and clean, you know, if you want to be doing it in the middle of his apartment with the window shades open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he also says, wait, do you mean he's meant home with you and you killed them in your home?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She wasn't thinking.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he even sees the trophies in that little wind up jewelry box on the in on in your living room.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, wait, we show him that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Wasn't there a moment or did he just figured out on his own?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he just stumbled by if I'm remembering correctly, I think he just breaks into her house and sees the jewelry box.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Hmm, no, I mean before when they like she's like, okay, yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I forget if there was a moment where she showed it or if he just stumbled because he's he's a little nosey too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, yeah, this is a little nosey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe he and she showed it to him or there was something like that in the apartment from like the last episode.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and then also could we talk about so lady she says she mentions that to her victim that it's her first victim in New York.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so I feel like that's gonna hunt Dexter and Harrison with the watch if the victim talks and says no, this is her first victim like she said, but also it's kind of like how how much are you gonna believe a serial killer when they've obviously killed like she has so many trophies that they could research.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I just like it's a little bit of a loophole that I hope they don't follow it just because for me, I feel like it's like a cheat move.

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[SPEAKER_05]: but like if they it's like it's a very small chance that the detective connects lady vengeance to uh you know Harrison and then ultimately Jackson but it's it's a little bit there it's like the fingerprints in the the evil layer you know and that's what I was thinking too though

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[SPEAKER_05]: little open-ended issues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you see, that's happened that I was thinking about too in a stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like this, like she has all those trophies and who they linked them up to the other kills that she had in her past and then link it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually had was thinking about this this morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the stuff I think about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was actually thinking about this this morning was who that watch link back over to Harrison, the only way that it can is because of Betista.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because Batista could probably say, hey, look, this is not represent who Lady Vengeance is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And based off of this guy that Dexter saved, this guy was just a random guy and not someone that Lady Venge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing, we know her background because of her interaction with Dexter, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The news outlets quote her as like a hero.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this guy is just a random.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they came and see that this is actually a horrific, horrific thing or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's also a different picture that we that she painted with the media to now how that she represents what dexter.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly like she seems to hate the process view of her which is like righteous kills, and that she's like quote unquote, like kind of the good, you know, she's like the Batman, the paper cedar of it and their eyes because.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'm trying to think about with the Bay Harbor butcher, I think they figured out that they were all bad guys too, right?

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[SPEAKER_05]: The victims and then that's how they thought that it might be like somebody agitated or somebody in the police force.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because it's not the idea, but maybe not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there was actually one season where you actually have that older FBI agent comes in, there's a love interest between Deb and him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's also that thing of, oh, snap, they found all the body parts below in the ocean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they bring it back to Dexter and Dexter's having it basically to a transcript of

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[SPEAKER_01]: holding the trying to fool them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had to do this whole entire thing, but he also, that's also another thing, too, is that agent actually makes sense that it's somebody within the police force that's doing the killing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're actually right about that because I remember that one particular season.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, they got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just certain things sticks with me and that's was the season that was like on my toes because I'm like, is he gonna get caught?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he not gonna get caught?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They found all the body parts and they wind up saying, okay, these are the bad guys that he killed.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So, lady, Benjamin says going to talk herself out of this one because if like the press thought that she was a good guy and was doing all of these kills to bad guys, so that makes me feel like maybe her previous like victims were possibly mostly bad guys and then this Rando guy who's probably just a nice person, this new one who survives.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so it's like it doesn't add up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I wonder how she's gonna deal with that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then to talk about, um, also with like, um, the Thurman's character.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, totally.

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[SPEAKER_05]: In prison or wherever they have her, I literally thought she's gonna kill her.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like somehow.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, I'm gonna talk to you about that one now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was also thinking this too of like, this is just a friendly visit of like, hey, look, it's like a gangster type of thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where's like they send in the enforced her?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, look, I already know the rules.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I already know the regulations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to say anything or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I already know that I'm out of this dinner thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Charlie doesn't knows now that she doesn't have to worry about her snitching or anything like that on the on.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, people do idiot things all the, you know, so, but yeah, the fact that she can come in and visit her and there's no problem, but also they offered to pay all of her expenses and to like get her out soon.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I wonder she's going to be back on the street and I wonder if she's going to put two and seven together and know that dexter is the one like,

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[SPEAKER_05]: You would assume there's so many possibilities.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then did she say, I don't remember, did she say that she's out of the dinners?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, she's not allowed to attend dinners or anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's too much heat on her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that means, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and she also knows too, not to talk about the dinners or anything like that either, because that's also another thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all these work out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This bill's in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And speaking of Charlie and Leon, let's talk about them too real quick too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Charlie is visiting her mom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Her mom has cancer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My wife's like, why is she telling her that she's a teacher?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, because there's a lot easier to live your mom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The teller, hey, look, I'm actually a driver for this guy who loves to collect serial killer memorabilia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he also likes to sit down with other serial killers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's easier to paint her a picture of something that's innocent versus something that's dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she lies to the mother to make it because they maybe she did have a degree in teaching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so or maybe she'd find out and she's just lying to her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because her mom has cancer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't want her mom to be remembered that she's been taking care of this billionaire who collects serial killer stuff and also has serial killer dinner.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, we also don't really know how Lucid her mother is and how safe it would be for Ula to disclose all of this information.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Also, like we don't know how much she's built a fake life in her mother's like, you know, view in her world.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and how far this goes back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, obviously, Uma looks like a trained killer.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, she looks like she's on the police force and she has connections.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, I wonder she had like if she does like undercover kind of stuff where she can't even tell her family that she's a police.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, like, right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: how far it goes.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then that kind of leads me to believe, like, okay, so like, just she know about deaf serving deaf, you know, because...

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[SPEAKER_05]: his whole history, just not even to do with the Bay Harbor butcher stuff, the his whole stuff with Rita, and his, you know, on paper, serial killer encounter with that because, you know, that was huge news at the time, probably when it happened.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I feel like that would blow through the police force and everybody would know what Dexter looks like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because get this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually watched another YouTube video before we started this and they were speculating that Leon knows that Dexter's who he says he is and that remember that podcast that we had from Dexter new blood the podcaster?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you do.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so this podcaster is investigating serial killers true crime stuff and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're thinking, well, Leon has to know about Dexter through the podcast, because it's a nationwide thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So therefore, maybe Leon might know, but also too, they're also speculating that because of him changing his name whenever, during the Trinity killer, Thanksgiving day thing that happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, they actually had a drawing of Dexter of what he looks like at the dinner and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're actually aiming more towards the fact that Leon knows that Dexter that he is Dexter, but I even think that might be a little stretch right now, but it's a good speculation.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I have some theories about peer-dinkledges character, because like we got some more intel about how both of his parents died in a hit run, like in a house with like somebody who was under the influence, right?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so he ended up going to a foster home.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so this is another kind of theory that's like a little bit difficult, but

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[SPEAKER_05]: I kind of wonder if he was also born and blood with that experience.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And there's a couple versions of that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, did he kill his parents?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Did he go crazy and not get his way or whatever?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then they ended up dying or did he meet

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[SPEAKER_05]: like Brian in the foster care like like is there any connections with that?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Or is he I mean because it's like when you lose your parents it's like why?

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[SPEAKER_05]: if you're dealing with all of that to overcome and then, but then your your fans of serial killers and you're inviting them and you're funding them to continue to kill.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like you're entertaining the idea of supporting their their addiction by giving them like copious amounts of money and then kind of protecting them and bringing them to your plate.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Lures weird super weird because he he brought to himself as this like, Oh, I'm so innocent, you know, and then you see him like behind the scenes and he's like pretty rude because

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have the same, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you remember Batman vs Superman with Lex Luther.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you want to go on ahead and present yourself to turn the daytime as your best behavior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then at nighttime when you are behind closed doors, that's when we really become our true selves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So basically with Peter Dicklish's characters, the same kind of way, especially with the interview is like, oh, Leon, you're a professional chef.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're a billionaire for lenses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the list just goes on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What happened to you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was your background?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're absolutely right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what exactly made him say, look, I love serial killers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to have dinner with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to have a handable lecture style sit down with everybody.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and it's like I collect their like a murder weapons and victims.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not really normal.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's normal loving love that for him.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, it's super freaking weird and creepy and I feel like he probably the most evil one out of the bunch because the other ones like they just they have something wrong with them and what do I doubt it what's wrong with him because obviously it's not normal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't be surprised.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he got maybe his parents got killed by a zero killer.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I was thinking like, I wonder, I wonder if there's any crossover with like red and his, you know, the dark passenger, like the real one.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I wonder if there's any crossover between his dad and like Peter Dinklage, like did his

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[SPEAKER_05]: Dad caused that accident because he's like a draw.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He was going into depression or something, but he didn't say like anything like, oh, there's a car accident and that kind of like.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, that was the idea to the downward spiral of my, you know what I mean, so like, I mean, I'm so hungry for like, I love aster.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I love that universe.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I don't mind like inventing things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Me too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm into the wheel because this is also why too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is also too wide like weekly episodes to where we can actually use our imaginations and speculate and stuff like that versus binging a show out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we're fully digested to the point where we forget about everything that we talked about.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the little minor details, details, every episode.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's nice to be able to deep dive these theories.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then, okay, so also with hearing footage, it's character, the whole thing about him wanting to be quiet about

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[SPEAKER_05]: paying for like mortgages for these like foster kids or like you know what I mean, you know, I'm wondering where that's going to go because I was so random.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, there's a lot of time spent on that on like building that thing for his character, you know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's like he ends up getting all this information from people, you know, to like pay that bill for them.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I like I or does he follow these kids and see if they become bad, like do they does he follow their life and knows how to like keep track of them, you know, and how many of the

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[SPEAKER_05]: the serial killers and his dinner parties or in the past how many of them were in the foster care system you know exactly or you haven't gotten to know what to uh al and the other one oh yeah we hit there's a bunch of other serial killers like words all the way forgotten about them like i hope we get to deep dive them too

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that we will get to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I like the fact that it focuses on one serial killer at a time in a sense of it's like, OK, well, we got rid of lady vengeance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now, Dexter doesn't have to kill her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now she's in prison.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Dexter will go on ahead and figure out those other serial killers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he even mentioned the same thing that we mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If these killers go missing, they're going to look at him.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So obviously, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm glad that he saw

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[SPEAKER_05]: that little flaw in his righteous system, you know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wouldn't be surprised though, like once he works his way up to Leon, Leon's going to be on that table for entertaining the idea of having serial killers.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, completely.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he can totally, too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He goes against uh, Dexter's like morals, you know, just like the whole supporting because it's like how many

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[SPEAKER_05]: How many different victims have they killed under his support?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because for Daxter, he tries to get them off the street.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, like these serial killer, these murderers, or evil people, let's say, he gets them off the street, which is great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_05]: By the legal system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then we actually have this other thing too now with Batista.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to bring that subplot back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's trying to bring all that back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if there's anything, that's going to be the one that winds up saying, hey, look, it doesn't add up to Lady Vengeance being the serial killer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you killed all these other people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time though, that watch doesn't represent who she is.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, the writers are really trying to make Batista work for this season.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, Batista's like, M-A-B-B-J-A-Murder, you know, like a Dexter Morgan, did everybody forget?

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's always like hassling them, but I like that on paper.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It just looks like he's, you know, stalking them.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So he doesn't really have anything.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I guess with like the body being cut up in nine pieces and like that was kind of a dumb move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: On Harrison's part, but at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But also too, we can also put in sort of lady of vengeance as well, which is Mia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he can even say, hey, look, that's not even her style because her style was bondage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We made her think about all of a sudden, chopping this one, dude up into a million pieces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless it's like, well, she was in a rush.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She just, you need to, the hurry, need to hurry up and get the body.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just don't really feel like setting up that bondage thing in a hotel room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's just too much work.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, I mean...

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like when this but she's they're gonna get caught because he's hassling, you know, Harrison and he's gonna end up finding where uh, Dexter lives and he's gonna be probably at his door or sneaking around his apartment.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe he finds it and then Dexter has to, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But another thing too that we have to think about too is with Harrison and Dexter because remember he goes wait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but he said, maybe think that you were dead.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so he's gonna be pissed.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was an evil move, very manipulative of the Tista, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, he's like, I feel like he's lost.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's lost like all credibility for me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I know that he's working on instincts and he thinks what he's doing is right and technically I know, Dekster's bad, but I'm always like rooting for our naughty boy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm rooting for him to get away with it and stuff and not get caught.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, with the tea stuff, he just working my nerves a little bit and I used to love the tea stuff, but I, but he's just that retired cop that just can't get, get, get past everything, but I wouldn't mind seeing like I sit down with like you mentioned on like the last episode where all of them sit down together, hate look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here for my son.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not here for anything because it's still explainable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything is still explainable right now.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the program stands show like evidence as they say, right?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then I would love to see Dexter come in strong and be like, hey, back up, you know, leave me and my family alone.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, this is enough, play time, you know, go back to Miami or rapper.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Now, because it's like, if somebody was picking on my head, you better believe, like, watch out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'll be going up to the Miami Metro Police Department.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, look, you have a real pop on your field right now harassing me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not doing anything wrong.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's, that's what he should do.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He should get some money from it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then we can have Dexter funded again.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he can have all of his fun like a little knife side and all of the plastic wrapping ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that an endless supply of plastic wrap?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I know we catch this a little bit and then I think that will be the end of the breakdown, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when we talked about Harrison, whenever he missed the call from the station and attacks attention, Detective Wallace returns the call.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, whenever he's in the interrogation room, he goes, yeah, I feel kind of guilty about, you know, about trying to save this girl, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, wait, that's an interesting work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: guilty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, I'm like, you are such an idiot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but still, I think that this is going to be like an open book case though right now, open because of the fact that they got me and they have the launch and then according to our partner, he's like, okay, well, we got our serial killer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Wallace is like kind of like the Tista in a way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think she's going to be able to adapt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's going to be optimistic enough to say, hey, look, this is not the right person that we have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that we have, yeah, we have the serial killer, but we have the wrong person for this kill.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think that there's definitely, there's going to be some kind of, well, I hope there is some kind of revelation.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I wouldn't be surprised if her, like, detective partner.

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[SPEAKER_05]: is doing something like a piece some kind of killer to I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like there should be a twist with that, but that you might like insanity, hoping for another another twist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but I can see Batista and her teaming up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because like, he's so quiet and I'm like, there's always something when they throw red herrings in and then there's like, there's like, one of the characters is very quiet until the end.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm always watching.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I watch a lot of like English crying dramas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's interesting though that you need to do that because I wouldn't have thought that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really wouldn't have thought that maybe the partner might be a killer or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's very interesting.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because like now he's that back, he was like kind of like out front, you know, and I feel like for some reason, the writers decide to kind of ditch him because you don't see him that often right now.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, he's not in the interrogation.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's not like on the phone call, you know, like they're not on the phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's also not behind the glass in the interrogation room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just always lawless working the case when you see him.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think that that would be a smart move that they did something like that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But, you know, I got to write my own problems.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I like that idea though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't mind that idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just don't have to get off the narrative of it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then, okay, can we talk about how cool?

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I was talking about Michael C. Hold his music band and then go figure during the credit sequence.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We've got his, his eating a racer song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Isn't that amazing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the lyrics actually kind of coincide with the episode in a sense as well, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, it does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I have to go back and re-analyze everything, though, too, just make sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But just for me, I always try to make a connection with why they put music in the certain episodes, like they do, because I did the same thing whenever I did Dexter, new blood, and they put in a sound garden, for example.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually said that was very fitting for Dexter to be able to use that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, that's one of my favorite songs of his so like his princess go band and then oh princess goes and then so that was a track off of their thanks for coming album from like twenty twenty one

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[SPEAKER_05]: And out of the album, I find myself listening to that song all the time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I actually want to do some, because I'm a dancer and a choreographer.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So like, we do like a little video dancing to it, because it's like very inspiring.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I love the song.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The only problem was because it's part of the credits.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They really mixed it low.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So you could hardly, it sounds like, my mostly halls like whispering, but it's such like a killer song when you hear it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I always suggest to listen to music on headphones so you can hear all the background and the face and everything like that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I was a little tiny bit disappointed that they mixed it so low and they had the sound effects going over the song and then they did a little some kind of crap quick quote.

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[SPEAKER_05]: a credit mix, so like you didn't even get the full scope of the song.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But if anybody hasn't heard it, please go check it out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Wonderful bands, so many good songs, but that's one of my favorite songs out of all other songs.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That was so exciting.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And it kind of got ruined for me because both of them, because I follow the band on social media like on Instagram and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So they were posting stuff like in the middle I'm in LA.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So obviously like the East Coast gets

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[SPEAKER_05]: you know access and everything like earlier than I do but like I don't know I like watching even if it's streaming I like to watch shows like later at night with my husband Rich Ricky and so like throughout the day I had to like Bob and we like I'm like I'll end up doing the same thing with my wife

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the band, like totally spoiled it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, oh, no, so I knew going in that was gonna be.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I got to tell my husband, like, oh, yeah, that's him singing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He really can't really hear it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I promise it's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is the lyrics verse two of that song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the one that I was telling you about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because this is things I never told you down on my knees.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why not let me hold you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me your weight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's saving just today?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was thinking to myself, this is actually him talking to Harrison, begging him on his knees and it for forgiveness for what happened to Rita, what happened in the past and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was one aspect of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what's worth saving just for today when he has the rest of his life to be able to be a father to his son.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, that crosses over.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That means sense.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then screw you in the door, you know, it's like you's the star of the show.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so if you can get his music, he's one of her who wants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's also that eating a racer, dismiss your brain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They can make you face her either ways fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She is fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm thinking that's like lady death.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they kind of counter balance is the episode to fitting the characters in the narrative of what the plot line is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's just me basically over maybe over analyzing it a little bit, but I like to geek out and try to put music in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't even get a chance to think about how that resonated with that episode or lecture as a series.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So that's really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to keep that in mind just knowing that that's where your head goes.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, so that we can have more to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: because I'm an obsessive person and it works well for for my work because I'm an actor and a creator.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We certainly never think so I get hyper fixated on like movies or shows or you know learning or songs and so I listen to it back to back to like thousands of times.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I was listening to this one and I was like I wonder if like

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[SPEAKER_05]: Before I knew it was used for Dexter, but I was like this song kind of sounds like it's from the perspective of like a pet dog or something like that because there's like a vacuum like how scary it is and the toilet flushing I was like you know it's just like in my head I was like a pair of like the POV is like the dog or the animal is kind of sad right it's from that version and they're like watching their human like I don't know do daily chores or something like that

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[SPEAKER_05]: But that's goofy for me to say during the text.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that aspect that you brought to that though, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, with me whenever I hear songs and stuff and like movies or TV shows, I'm like, well, how does this emulate the soundtrack to this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because sometimes people just put in songs for the sake of having them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if it's there to actually increase the plot and it's there to actually enhance it, I like to actually analyze it based off of those things and you're right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like I feel like when you're dealing with

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[SPEAKER_05]: films or like like like high budget films and high budget like TV shows and stuff like there are choices made because like they can have anything that they want you know because they can afford a licensing music and stuff and so yeah that probably has to have a connection to what's going on in that like in this case in the episode or with the characters something so I like I like that

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[SPEAKER_05]: definition and I like that thought process.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because obviously, like a composer, even if it's like sourced music, like music that, you know, like you're going to jinns a brown song or something like that, something that's sourced outside of an original score.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, you know, a composer is generally very talented and will choose those things for specific reasons.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Can they atone or an emotion?

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[SPEAKER_05]: within the aspect of, you know, the product.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I love that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I love that thought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do appreciate that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That means a lot to me, because I feel that way with scoring, though, too, which is why I like Danny's music as well, because I was on the stage for each other.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's a key and such a key.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like insanely like joyful, and then it just like it's deep and dark and got wrenching.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He actually just released, it was a French Dracula film.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And the score was just released a couple of days ago, and I've been completely

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think Lee upsets with it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: If you ask me what my favorite song is, I love all of them, but my ultra favorite is a bloody meal.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's so crazy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you have to.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's Dracula.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of like the origin story of Dracula and it has everything I ever wanted.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Ralph Walsh, and it has, oh God, I'm blanking on the main Dracula.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's so good, he's such a great actor, but he was in David Lynch's twin piece of return.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The two thousand, some of the team reboot series, and he played a character.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he's been in a lot of other things, but that one always sticks with me, because it's such a dramatic, like, deep performance that he did.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but yeah, it looks killer.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I can't wait until it's released a state side so I can see it because everything all the little clips that I've seen is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So thanks so much, Janet.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So now I can like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because here's like, I remember on the school buzz, I'm listening to the men and black soundtrack and I'm over there scoring like as if I'm like Danny and I'm also imagine stuff within that also do the Batman theme song for Tim Burton for like two movies and then viewers says a hands matter of fact, let me show you this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and then viewers says her hands.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I've got a I've got a I'm gonna bat me on like from the bat member turns really said Batman and that's really cool I Never mind as a kid the Batman and Catwoman and I've got one too

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I have to like screen.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They're like under like a dome glass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand that's how I am with my stuff though, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But hands down, Danny's one of my favorite scores ever since I was in school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I grew up with Danny, basically, I have the generations of music.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's so inspiring.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He has these live shows, and I walk away.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He does live to picture Nightmare before Christmas, so the music of Tim Burton films like he has different shows, and then he's got his

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[SPEAKER_05]: from a boring go to Batman.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's like a compilation of his whole career.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's like the rock band stuff.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's the score stuff, you know, like Simpsons, P. We.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And stay all of that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then his new album work, big mess.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he's coming out with a new album of new rock album pretty soon too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's so exciting.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I, yeah, I'm so glad that you're here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to be a sports stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a thing, I just love the way he explores stuff, he keeps himself busy and occupied with different range of music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I love his alternative side, different things, and he's very creative with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just want to bring him up real quick, but since we're on the topic of music, but still, this is a great episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a great deep dive that we did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait for us to talk about the next episode after this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that's everything that that's going on is right now, but I will have Josh pray on we're going to be doing the naked gun reboot.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think you saw that like last night on day night with my husband Richard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, we're going to be reviewing that on Tuesday at eight o'clock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not going to click Eastern time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be doing that with me, the entire spray and then airborne with June generation podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, that's going to be on August seventh at eight o'clock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be two live shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for this month so far, but that's about it as far as this review goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that everybody has a great save day and thank you so much for listening and watching and don't forget to smash that like button, subscribe, and also to give us a five star review where we guys hate your podcast from at movie loves you night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell us what you think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Email me at movie loves you night at gmail.com and thank you so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Janice, I do appreciate you coming on the show talking about the next.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, thanks so much.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And everybody can find me on social media.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm Dahlia Demont under my stage name on Instagram and on Facebook.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm on a stage of Elfman and on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm around coming down here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And let me have a favor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me a favor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After the show send me out all your socials and I'll put them in the description.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Perfect.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That would be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right guys, well, that's gonna be it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead and check out the station.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Check out Danny's new album whenever you guys get the chance and always until next time guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In a town blanket in snow, a man hides his truth beneath the layers of flannel and plastic wrap.