Peacemaker Season 2 Finale Review: “Like a Keith in the Night” & “Full Nelson” Breakdown!
John dives into the explosive two-part finale of Peacemaker Season 2 — “Like a Keith in the Night” and “Full Nelson.”
From insane action to emotional payoffs, we break down everything James Gunn packed into these episodes.
Did Peacemaker stick the landing? Find out as we talk theories, character arcs, and what this finale means for the future of the DC Universe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello movie lovers, welcome to show some of the day I'm going to be reviewing these Bakers season two this is the finale we're going to be combining balls episodes like a kids in the night and a full Nelson so this is going to be episode seven and eight and here one welcome to the show so this is going to be me today so I just want to go on off the caught from everything I really liked these Bakers season two episode seven
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[SPEAKER_00]: As far as that goes, I felt like that was more of a cohesive story, and when you look down to the finale of this for episode 8, I feel like episode 7 is probably the perfect way to actually wrap up everything, but instead we get episode 8 and we're getting to full Nelson in a few minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me just tell you a few things that I liked about episode 7.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I like how Chris is also blindsided by the whole entire deal of he's got everything back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and his father's back, his brother's back, and he's blindsided by this town.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how about how racist this town is?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris and I actually broke everything down in the last episode of, let me a week or so ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, it's just a whole fact that Chris is so blind to the things around him that he doesn't see the big picture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of them is the fact that this town is racist, only though they racist, but they also worship Nazi, they also are worship of, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris doesn't even know what's going on around him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All he cares about is one thing and one thing only.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is the fact that he's got his family back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got his brother back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got his father back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So little small details to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't really care or notice it or anything with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And up until you see, you know, once you actually get to see Amelia come into the picture and he's like, hey, look, you need to look around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a button, all this racist stuff is going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, what do you mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said there's a mine cough, a book on the table back when the Hitler was in prison, he actually wrote a book called mine cough, my timing in prison.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's sitting on on the desk as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you also have the Nazi flag.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you also have the neighbors, also chasing down Amanda Weller's daughter as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lot of racism within episode seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Chris winds up flying himself out of the home tire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Please station with Amelia Harcourt and she winds up a wick Chris and I love that moment of them on the motorcycle and her wrapped up around him and it was just like that odd moment of like Chris finally got the girl he's been wanting and it's not the girl from that uh that I'm that a mention or anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like the fact that you know Amelia Harcourt is actually the perfect woman for him and it's not and he doesn't have to get to another universe just to be with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got the woman that he's wanting, but you know, I also like how Judo Masker is in this and he's saving I mean, it was daughter and I was like, how he winds up helping her out of the swimming pool and she's like, well, why are you helping me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes, well, I didn't think it was a fear of fight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the on how's your day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm so prepared to go to Havier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do appreciate you coming in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, we are the only one watching right now, but I'm sure there probably be a couple of others coming in sooner or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So how's your day going?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I want to know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you doing on this Sunday?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for joining me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope that you enjoyed the last two episodes of Peace Maker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope that you stick around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, I just think that, but you don't helping out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a wallet dollar was actually a perfect way actually doing it because he, like I said, why are you helping me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I didn't think it was a fair fight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what does he do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He winds up helping around it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm pulling, he winds up electrocuting all the other people in this woman pool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love that little dark moment of
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[SPEAKER_00]: this humor that he has.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, well, I just broke my own record of how many people I actually electrocuted in the swim pool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She goes, what do you mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How many did you actually kill for?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just bust out laughing over that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Harvey has said, my day is going good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was your opinion on that cliffhanger?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get into that in a minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to break down episode 7 on some of the things I liked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: about episodes, I mean, then we'll go into episode eight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, even though Chris is in part of this universe, his dad still sees his him as a son, even though Chris killed his own self and stuff like that, his own father actually gets his own father just sees Chris for who he is and still loves him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And his brother is brother only on him wants to kill him because of the fact that Chris killed his brother in this universe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, sad to actually see once again that, you know, basically him losing people around him and it's just sad to see that and why would he then also to how John is being tied up in that moment and equally is walking around the kitchen and goes, hey,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, come to find out as a different year that they're from another universe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they're trying to get risk and a mere, uh, basically a mental well as daughter and everybody else back into the other dimension.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that was actually pretty cool on how the fathers like look, we need to get these people out of here while the brother, oh, the other hand, doesn't want to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He also just wants to go on ahead and kill Chris for what he did have to his brother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I understand where it's coming from, but at the same time, though, it's not going to bring his brother back, even his own father said that to what started his done and I totally get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'll also like how Keith wants to this also when I want to talk about to, Keith wants to kill Chris for killing his brother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris and Mr. wanting to see what it was like to have a family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be like how the father has enrages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be like the speech that Chris's dad winds up giving everyone before he gets killed by vigilante and I love that moment of him having this great speech and it's about him being able to protect the city that he loves while also protecting the family that he loves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then at that moment
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[SPEAKER_00]: you have something that winds up happening in the background of vigilante ones up stabbing him in the neck over and over again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the plus I did that is at least Christine kill his father this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was somebody else that killed his father.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Chris has a little bit of guilt because of the fact that whatever he touches something bad winds up happening that person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I totally get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I totally get the grief and the guilt over that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I also like the the layers that John Cena was able to give us within this episode where he's seen this chaos around him where everybody is focusing on violence and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then whenever his brother is about to die and stuff too, he's like, what the fuck is wrong with us?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is wrong with the picture here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is going on on a deeper level with us and does the pain the emotion and the crying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt really bad for Chris.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really have to say John Cena did a really good job and pulling on the layers on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then if that we want to have in the cliffhanger of where
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[SPEAKER_00]: The more close is because the vigilante winds up kicking the door back to where you don't see anything else that happens within the aftermath, you have a million hard court who was also going to kill versus brother, but she doesn't because the fact that everybody was coming into bust in on them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And therefore, she winds up going back over to the other dimension, you know, and then it shows Chris's brother going to the hospital and things like that, so it made me wonder, like, are we going to get him back in season three where he's picked up on tensions for Chris.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or is he going to try and save for, especially with their flip anger?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not know how they're going to go ahead and get him out of there, but it's going to be interesting to see, and I'm glad that your day is going good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so now we're going to get into episode eight, okay?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what some of the things I have to say about episode eight guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So first I just want to say, John is Chris Smith and piecemaker and Jennifer Hollinis, Emila Harcott, Amir Yarkard, have been great all season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the minimum lighting style in stuff like that, well, won't the plot finally comes to a chaotic place here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gun who wrote the whole season in his end back to direct the finale, finally takes us back to the night on the
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're Chris and Harclard apparently hooked up in the drunken moment that at least one of them has seen to regret.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gun always as a master when it comes down to reading pop music and to his narratives, what reveals that the night, no positions, father to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I just liked the whole entire deal of when we actually get to see what's going on with them, but at the same time though, I feel like it's a little too late for that in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that they should have showed us that earlier to give us more context with it, then they put it into a finale.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just feels like a post credit scene that was just totally in this place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like an extended post credit scene that we would see at the very end of a movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that would have been better placed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's episode seven be the finale and just put that at the incredible scene, but instead we get in an episode eight and it doesn't feel cohesive to me, it should have let us off where we left off with with episode seven in my opinion, that's why I have a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: part of nudity problem with the season eight, but that's just my opinion though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just didn't hear that much about this season, but I like I wanted it to because it doesn't feel like a season finale.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just feels like just another episode and that was it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get me wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that what happened to Chris was horrifying and things, but at the same time, how does this lead into Superman?
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[SPEAKER_00]: how does this come about into the other DC projects as well?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I would like to know in the future as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I just think that that's one of the things I didn't like was the fact that I think that one part should have been an episode seven or should have been somewhere earlier to show us why
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris in her broke up or what happened that night, but I understand that they're trying to give us context on what happens later on because that's when Chris is like, wait, she's really into me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, that's especially when Amelia winds up telling me, look, I love you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he has that who raw moment in the hotel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time though, I wish that they would have went on and did like a little small flashback with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he has that who raw moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's just my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: of this, of this reminds me of monster incorporated because they're looking for other dimensions and other places that we don't know why they're looking for this or the other dimension or anything with averages as blind as the people that are working for flag at the same time though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They once again, it just feels like as a here and there situation, it's like, okay, why should we care?
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[SPEAKER_00]: even more about this because it's just like all of the sudden flag just turns from being vengeance against Chris to one of the finest dimension.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we find out that he wants to put Chris in this dimension and arrest him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wish that it was just built on the fact that you know, I got want to get vengeance on my son.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he beats the crap out of him during the interrogation scene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's sure I thought that would have been the end of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, he's still as hung up on this whole vision thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just don't think that actually matched up to what I wanted this to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just the whole expectations and the execution of what I wanted it to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's my fault for expecting something when the wind is already been happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that might be something that I need to maybe go back and check for myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything with this episode seems just to have with no rhyme or reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love one of the open up the door and then you see this giant mushroom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You also see this candy land kind of feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It reminds me of like Wizard of Oz, but it also has like a candy land board game kind of doorway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought it was kind of fascinating and kind of weird, but also, too, you have all these
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[SPEAKER_00]: And killing them, and then while that's happening, you have another montage later on, where everybody on this team is going to eat not by these monsters, and then you have brick flag and his team just celebrating over the paperwork, celebrating over everything, while
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing but chaos within this whole entire do all the doors and stuff and everybody's getting killed and he doesn't give two crops about what's going on either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All he cares about is trying to find this dimension, finding this other earth that we can place other people in and that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just such a douchebag when it comes to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because even John is witnessing all this chaos and everything around him as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just sad to see that they don't even care about the things that are going around them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And even the people that when it's once we find doubt that you know Rick is actually setting up a prison for men and humans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then even the people who, if he wants them to approve it, he goes, wait, you're just one step away from being less Luther and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where, you know, the like, why are you doing this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he might be a, there's a thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He might be a bad guy, but he has some good ideas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that his ideas were flawed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to try and carry those out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, they get it approved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Rick is so,
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[SPEAKER_00]: hide into the fact of the on vengeance to the point where he doesn't see what he's doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I'm seeing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just don't like where this episode is going the whole entire time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you also have this other scene that happens on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rick wants to make a prison and call it salvation and put meta humans in it because he tells Amelia Hardcore about flag is making a prison in the both quit artists and they make their own call checkmate with burdo and flurry and judo master.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my thing with that is is the fact that I just think that
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like too much montage within this episode and itself that it pulls you out of it a little bit because I think the montage is born there to actually do anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like it was just there for being there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just didn't like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just felt like the pacing was off with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then Lee is realizing that it's time to say goodbye to her partner, where it's not fair to be with someone that is happy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, the other person is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like the fact that Lee finally has closure
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[SPEAKER_00]: With a partner, I do like that part because of the fact that why you're going to be with someone that doesn't appreciate you and also too Why do you want to be with someone that also wants to make you change when this is who you are in a way really sees you for who you are
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not fair for her partner to be happy while also Amanda Wallace daughter being miserable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I understand that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd really like the closure between them too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you had the big mistake was getting jotted and distract, flagged team, which I thought was funny because they're trying to find a location of Chris and I've just thought it was funny because he's just coming off off the wall in nonsense about football game and then you also have
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[SPEAKER_00]: the lobster that walked into a bar and the bartenders is what the fuck are you doing here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like those comedic moments with John and him being awkward and trying to tell jokes while Amelia and also reflects girlfriend as both trying to locate Chris.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but I even have to agree with John on this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It should have been hardcore that that should have been doing the talking because John is what what he's good at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's good at IT work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's good at hacking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's good at all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not good with conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not good with telling jokes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not good at bringing a trying to distract someone, but I like the fact that even brings it to their attention.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, look, I'm not good at this, but it makes it even more funnier to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you also have Chris blaming himself for people dying around him, but technically, Chris didn't kill his dad in the other universe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Adrian that actually killed his dad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then one week later, they make it make their own agencies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do like the, now this is actually one of the ones I'm probably like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: where you actually had the montage set up where they're setting up the agency and stuff like that and that part worked it was the part where You had a middle all as daughter trying to explain to Rick Flag seniors girlfriend about what they want to do and how they want to build stuff do things and things like that with this agency that they're trying to make.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the one thing that I wish that they didn't do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish that they would actually give us some dialogue into what their plans are, even though we might get that later on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted a little bit more context without the montage, without the music and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do like this whole entire deal where you have Flory, you have Judo Master and all them being part of this checkmate agency and Rick Flagbyn in the center of it being represented with this agency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, I do think that there's going to be consequences where Rick Flegg working with Lex going into Superman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, and I was like, well, how is this going to lead into Superman?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was one of those people too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that said that earlier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was like, how is this going to lead into the sequel of Superman?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This has everything to do with the consequences and everything that Rick Flegg senior is doing and dealing with what's going to happen with Rick Flegg later on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what's going to happen also too for dealing with baby a team up between Lex and Superman possibly in this next Superman movie where you know it's like yes I am the big bad guy but at the same time though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, um, we need to team up because there's someone bigger and better than who I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So right now we're going to be frenemies and then we're going to bring this down and then after that we're going to continue business like we normally do where I'm the bad guy and we're going to have to come after me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I think that Superman 2 is going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now we actually have where Chris is now caught and captured and arrested.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's thrown into this minutes of meta-human prison.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I really, on that cliffhanger, I'm just wondering how was he going to get out of there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They went through other doors, no creatures or anything like that or in this one supposedly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Up until Chris is now
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[SPEAKER_00]: in that door, and you can hear other creatures, other things that could possibly kill him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they don't even know what's in these doors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And also too, they weren't even in that door long enough to even consider, hey, look, there's other animals, other species in this thing that could kill somebody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All they care about is getting ready, many humans and saying goodbye.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just how heartless that brick flag is, and this team is, but Harvey, what do you think of this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think of
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this finale did you like it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you not like it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like to know, tell me in the comments, dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I just didn't really feel like this was a finale that I was expecting out of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was expecting more, more closure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that we might actually see Chris's brother showback up again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that it'll be an awesome season 3 that it will show up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, well, I don't what happened with that whole entire deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the Nazi thing would show back up again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the universe would actually come into this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they closed all those doors on intended in episode seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now we're primarily focused on this season on what's going to happen in season three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.
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[UNKNOWN]: Harvey
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[SPEAKER_00]: was very underwhelming and James Gunn overhyped it way too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do agree because even my friend Chris who actually joins me for these after shows, we both felt the same way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where's a tie-in for this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, while the only thing he mentioned was left and we actually got that already.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was no, that's really to be excited about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has, I'm afraid for Chris, but at the same
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[SPEAKER_00]: The finale falls so, let's see, fell so filler and yet they were also rushing future plot points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they closed the door for everything that happened in that universe, and then focused on this other thing now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, Chris just being stuck there in that cliffhanger wasn't enough for people to draw in to see what's going to happen next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there should have been something else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there should have been another big bad or something that happens at the very end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or some of the ripple effect that happens when it opens these doors and have consequences within that because we actually had consequences in Superman where it had caught because everything that
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[SPEAKER_00]: This doesn't have no consequences because of the fact that they have that portable portal thing that they have because Chris winds up giving it over to reflect thinking that was going to ease the tension off of him and admitting that he was wrong for using it, but no instead that made Chris even more of a bigger target.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just felt like it was just, I think we need to lease one more episode to really flash out something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see here, Havir says, this season lacked a big bad villain that peacemaker in this gang could confront in the last episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You see,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even at the beginning of the season, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was wondering, how was even asking Chris?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, where's the big bad?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because there has to be some other big bad within this universe, especially when they're opening different portals to different doors and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's gotta be something that gets out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, nothing gets out, nothing happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All it is is Chris wanting to see his family again and realizing what he has and front of him and the friends and family that he has in front of him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And nothing can change his past.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has to look forward for them backwards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what this episode was mostly about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was self-healing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and being able to accept things from who what they are because just because you have things great in this other dimension and stuff doesn't make it to where everything is great because look what happened, that universe Hitler won the World War II.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You also have racist people in there, but also worse than what wasn't the Earth that Chris is from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no diversity within that universe or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that made that, that plays a lot more darker than what the Art Academy Chris lives on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have that going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, there was no big bad guy or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All it was was self-reflection on Chris and realizing, hey, look, I don't, I have a bad over on the earth that I live at, but it's not as bad as what's over there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I get my brother back and I have my father back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do I need to go on ahead and live here when I have all my friends that supports me back on earth now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just him just basically coming to terms with his own self and his own self reflections and his own guilt and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's more of like a psychological if you think about a more of a psychological season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For Chris to give us more from him and realizing, hey, what I'm doing, I'm still changing, but I have to still change one day at a time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It does not happen all the time and I need to stop reflecting back on guilt because guilt only gets me so far because if if I wasn't feeling guilty, I would not be going on ahead and try to go into this universe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and be part of something that I don't need to be long in, even though I have my family, and I have that closest with that family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do like the fact that the father is on a racist in this universe, and I like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the fact he was still trying to protect them, even though he's not his son, and in his own father's eyes, he sees Chris as his son.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I liked that building that they did with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have Chris's brother who's just bent on like right flag is on vengeance because of him killing Chris with killing himself basically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just it was just yeah, I wanted more from this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was expecting a big bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't get a big bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Still, I was like, I'm here for the ride.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is where you're gonna get me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna go with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, it's not as good as season one, but it's still okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like the very first couple of episodes where it's nothing but SNL skits versus it being a cohesive storyline at the very beginning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I laughed, yes, I was entertained.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time though, I wanna be fed something
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[SPEAKER_00]: go on because all it was was just an SNL skits the whole entire season up until you get to episode six through eight and by then it's like okay our people are going to be allowed now because the lackluster of those three episodes are they going to still stick with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: even after the finale or even out even with that purpose to four or five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, okay, so let's see, however you're says season one thought that like a standalone while season two just felt like a building up first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do feel like it was building for Superman because even James guns said that certain events within this season is going to build towards Superman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get where they're going as far as that goes, but yes, you had a little sprinkle of legs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you had the many human prison and stop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was not really enough to really say how does this connect and quarrel with consequences coming into Superman are two other than the consequences of brick flag and the stuff that he's doing with the government and him trying to shine away metaheuments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the time that reflects girlfriend who's also a metaheumen comes to realize, oh, look, I'm actually screwing this up because of the fact that I'm a metaheumen
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[SPEAKER_00]: So by then the light bulb comes on and by then it's too late because Chris is over there already has all the everything not Chris but we have a reclac who has everything that he needs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody knew why he wanted this universe or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why they were going through doors up until the finale.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just sad to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that that happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now we're faced with the consequences of him working with Lex Luther.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's like the only thing that I can see that's going through Superman 2 as far as that goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think, Xavier?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, are you going to stick with it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's your plan as far as wanting to see more of a peacemaker?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I like to actually know that, and also too, are you excited about us with me and too?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I am still excited about Superman too, it's just, I want to know the context of the story and what they're trying to build and what they're trying to do, as far as that goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that this season finale just felt like another episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't really feel like anything I want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: also like how the near ass kicking that hardcore is ready to give that random dude outside the big belly burger is thorded because of Chris and how his outlook on life look at the moon, look at the star, serves an illustrated by a hardcore might fall for the big lug between that and being caught up in the magic of Nelson, how could she not?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, hard court in the 11th street kids used that same Chris five to bring him out of his funk later in the episode when he's at his lowest and under the impression that he's cursed because all all of the bad things that have happened around him, I believe in the miracles because of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw an eagle hung a human at Daniel Brooks who plays ads and she cries and it's not in a funny way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an in a man these guys do all all love each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on a way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it still comes back whole circle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I just, I just think that they could have done a better job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If this is the last season for a piecemaker, I'm absolutely devastated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could see them doing a checkmate or maybe a salvation series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that this is not going to be the last piecemaker series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that we might actually get a piecemaker series with the checkmate's penoff show of piecemaker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm kind of hoping for because I do love a lot of piecemaker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like what they were doing as far as the finale goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also like how the near as picking that hard court is ready to give the random due to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it all comes back to Chris and Harcourt, the leader of whom finally in Miss said, yeah, of course, the night of the boat meant something and meant everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, not much else in this episode comes together as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As Chris Harcourt with Frank Grillo's Rick Flags senior really coming across, as a kind of a mess of a character at this point that I missed something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why was I, why,
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[SPEAKER_00]: was he having a jolly good time with the rest of the staff of Lex Luthor's old command center while people that he worked for are working for him and he's just having a good time watching everybody die around him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also piecemaker fell sideline in the final episode for some reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it just seemed like he was kind of sideline just because so that way they can can happen and put him into that other dimension.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the way other people can try and save him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I felt because it's like, okay, we got to peel, he's make a jail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be a lot of jail with Adrian's money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then must they be a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh snap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he's kidnapped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now nobody knows where he's at or anything because they have no way attracting him because he's in the other dementia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No one's going to get him up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No one's going to tell say where he's at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wonder what's going to happen with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do feel like that he is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was silent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was just a thing that brought us up to the finale and that was it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I want to see, I want to hear the thing, I want to say something good about the finale and I'm hoping that I'm not being too critical or anything is just it wasn't what I wanted then you also have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that has to be where peacemakers the show connection to man of tomorrow comes in, but reflects senior now hanging so tightly with Lex's old henchmen and admitting that he doesn't like the billionaire villain, but he is the smartest man in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why not use his brain to make a world a better place, which is dangerous?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was actually against what but it flagged it was even part of it to begin with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then there's a scene between ads and her wife,
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[SPEAKER_00]: which is well played, but also feels like a little too little too late as the problems and the couple have faced face just doesn't get enough room to breathe over the past eight episodes and as far as Freddie Stormman's Bell Joleney and Steve agrees John economists will again, they had some fun moments in this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: season in this episode, but that's about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, this is John Cena's show first and form most, but in a in the symbol cast like this, just needs to be a little bit more attention.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of fun, getting to the sea, Foxy Chazam perform the season's title track back on that same rock ruse is pretty cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though it's a haircut in the montage, intercutting the montage
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[SPEAKER_00]: that sets up the group's creation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Checkmate the new super spy work that they're going to be running.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They said I'm not sure that I fully follow the thread that led to the decision to just up and watch their own covered ops groups.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It comes in that moment when our court and the rest are leading with Chris to get back on track, but still it just falls out of place and while we didn't go back to the Nazi planet like I mentioned at all this week or get to visit from David, it's been kids myth we have to assume this isn't the last we've seen of that character it is a bit of a let down that this particular story is left.
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[SPEAKER_00]: so open-ended here and also the guns didn't grace us with the last big action scene this week instead Chris being stranded by Rick Singer on Salvation has to pass for our big QQC twist and there's no denying that the prospect of Chris having to fend for himself cast away style with nothing but
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[SPEAKER_00]: The whole season, I just feel like it has good moments, but it's not the strongest season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go guys, but that's something that I have to say as far as the season goes, but guys, if you guys have listened of watching or anything like that right now, tell me what you guys think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you like the season?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you like the season?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you feel like I feel like this like how, RVR and I feel about this right now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me in the comments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to actually know what you guys think, RVR, thank you for commenting and just being interactive because I love doing this and I love interacting with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there anything else that you want to touch on as well?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I like to do now too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to stay on here a little bit Also please make a feel so okay, so I think that's everything I've wanted to cover and if there's not any other questions or anybody else in this live chat or anything I'm going to go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to close out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope everybody else has a great and safe Sunday
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[SPEAKER_00]: So go ahead and check out the schedule over there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And always, I'm the next one guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have a great day and thank you again, Havier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for commenting and all that other good stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do appreciate it and all the ways until I sound.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
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