IT: Welcome to Derry Episode 1x4 Review — Breaking Down “The Great Swirling Apparatus of Our Planet’s Function”

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[SPEAKER_02]: And hello, movie lovers, welcome to show, so tonight we're going to be reviewing it Welcome to Darry, Darry, episode four to great swirling apparatus of our planet's function.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my good friend, Chris here, but as I'm gonna say, we did peacemakers season two, now wherever he's back to do it Welcome to Darry episode four.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's go ahead, let's welcome Chris back to the show and let's do this guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And hey Chris, welcome back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi John, thanks for having me back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're very welcome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have a question, how have you been enjoying this series?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that Rossi and I have been enjoying this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And guys, I just want to let you know Rossi has something that came up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know I lied inside the cop in the description that she's going to be here, but she's going to be here for next Monday's review.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But still, what did you think of this episode overall?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This episode, um, I thought it was, it was a nice setup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the series so far since I was your first question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am enjoying it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I really, I really needed a good, uh, horror series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm glad that this one came out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been really nice fast pace.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, this episode, I, I like it was a lot of a world and lore building and, and it really helps, uh, give some history to what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I really enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's one thing I liked about this episode, too, was the world building the lore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like, you know, we have in chapter one in chapter two, right, and I feel like this is just an extension of that world building that we're getting with this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like an extra extended add-on, which something that I really do appreciate within this series itself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's building up more the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You get a little more understanding of what,

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[SPEAKER_00]: what things are going on and figuring out what this creature is, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, let's go ahead and let's get into it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, we'll lemveronka, Lily Rich, and it shows the police, the pictures, the Clint, they don't see what the kids see, Clint threatens them that they shouldn't go and get involved in police work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, Rossi and I were like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they really wind up getting the pictures that they needed and I said no, I said chances of them getting this you're definitely not something that's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It has, in fact, it manipulates the adults and to see whatever it wants them to see and therefore they didn't get anything I said I would it would be funny if they just walked out out of this and they have a bunch of selfies on themselves making idiotic faces instead of something and then instead it's just like burr crap and then there was something else and then something surprised me though this right because Clinton this is Clint was like wait.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I see a little statue, which is the same thing that the kids saw which was the clown.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So my thing is this, I don't think that was actually penny-wise.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that picture if Clint was able to see that picture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it could have been just like a blit, but you know, I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pennywise has a way of manipulating people's minds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe he just, I mean, is he a perfect creature?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, and, or will he make some mistakes, or is he just leaving that in there just to get that little seed planted for that fear that he wants to build up?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but for me, I think that this is actually somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's not, they were going online that saying that's Mr. Shaw, Ms. Shaw.

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[SPEAKER_02]: from it chapter two, which is the thing that it wanted that pertaining to be and took the persona of her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it could be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's also the, and people are also speculating Mrs. Shaw is also the clown that was at the very beginning of episode three in that carnival.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I can actually see that in a way because of the fact that when it's able to see the see this, it is manipulating the adults.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The only people that can actually see anything are the kids because of the way that it manipulates it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why I was thinking of thinking of the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I could see that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we also have other spirits, right, getting involved like Dick's mom, right, showing up, right, right, but with Dick's mom though, grandmother coming in there, though, it's basically his shine because he is a part of the shining universe, so basically he's seeing her through a vision of saying, be careful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, and it's like death right where it's soft at first and then it starts getting louder and louder.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because she keeps on warning him throughout episode one two and three and then finally this happens out in the woods with taking his buddies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, I just thought that was something that was really horrifying as well, seeing the grandmother over there trying to warn him out of the blue, but what's your think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought it was kind of creepy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was kind of like nice because you know he has these like psychic abilities, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I also kind of was going off of for the kids being able to see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They say kids have a little bit more of an open mind and maybe a little bit closer to the psychic ability stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe that's why they're being kind of played.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of the reason why I thought maybe maybe it could just be another spirit getting involved with the pictures.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for some reason, you can't catch the kids spirits that were chasing them through the cemetery, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that was actually Pennywise and doing all that work, but an actual spirit probably could have maybe gotten caught on the photo graphs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, that's a possibility of like a real spirit would be able to do that in something that it didn't manipulate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but with dick, though, I think that this is his shine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, is his real, his grandmother really warning him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think his his is real.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's because he, he knows how to control and look into that and all that and everything, but I was more leaning towards the, the kid's section.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: By, you know, the thing that I've really, that I'm really enjoying is the fact of the world building, like you mentioned, Clint is actually Henry Bowers is grandfather.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you have a book who's actually Henry Bowers is father.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Clint is actually the person who said part of the police force.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember Henry Bowers from the original hit movie?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, but yeah, I definitely like the manipulation within this world and then Veronica and then trying to prove for dad's innocence and it's just the circumstances with those still breaks my heart and it doesn't matter what they do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is still going to win because of the manipulation within the police force and then also to with the racism going on within the 1960s itself is like an open shut case right it's like, well, we got our guy is a black guy so this has to be the guy that we have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's no reason to even open up the books because on top of that, whatever Pennywise's power is that the whole town just seems to ignore any rising hate or or anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean on top of that as well, it's just it's a whole fuel sandwich.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a whole entire cancer if you think

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[SPEAKER_02]: Within this town itself where these people are being implemented by it don't want sees anything they choose not to see anything as if everything is just perfect on the dory that this is also another thing to like in the bathroom or Veronica.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And stuff like that to Veronica's afraid that our dad will be transferred to Shawshank 1930 kids disappearing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's also the other thing what Mrs. Shaw, like I said before, I'm thinking that that's Pennywise because here's the thing, why else do you think that this woman is putting making her making Lily push herself to find out more information.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, it's interesting, though, like why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we don't see her too often right, but she does appear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she keeps like pushing her to find more stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she she met her at the the Institute, right, that's where she first met her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she meant her at the Institute because remember she said people are afraid of what they can't see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're now she's telling her now that she needs to go ahead and keep him bestigating it and she in Lily even asked her she goes she said this to where she said, well, did anything like this ever happened she's yeah in the 1930s stuff like this happened, but I can drastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: all casual and everything about, right, it's like, it's another Tuesday, and then she's just, the same kind of like the opposite of what like a counselor or anything would be doing, like, well, let's talk about your issues and what's going on in life right now, not go investigate this more and see what you can pull up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so you have that going on and then that's seen in the gym and stuff like that and the cop and basically they're like, look, we can't do anything about this because we're going to get in trouble for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it just hurts that neither side is wrong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the surface circumstances that Lily and Veronica are both in and will is trying everything he can do so as a rich.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like there, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what can you do against this being and no one's really going to take kids seriously anyways right exactly because there is kids have a wild imagination maybe they will all watch to movie or read a book or you know right exactly that's exactly what the cops are going to say like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, what was your kids reading because their imaginations can go, hey, why or stuff like that, you know, is what comic books, yeah, comic books is your son reading, because I remember that I think that was a thing back then to comic books bring out evil and stuff like that back in and it was something that they don't understand is what they're afraid of, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I do like, is everything too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have Rose visits the Holland's Rose becomes friends with the Roy's wife.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is where she also tells his wife that, hey, yeah, there's an evil in dairy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That you need to be aware of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's something going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this, I'm not quite sure where to go with that one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I like the fact that she's in the know of this because of her culture, because of her Indian culture.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's racism going on all over the place within this town.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have lack racism.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You also have the Cuban racism going on because of Richie's Richie's background because he's Cuban.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then you also have the in the in the tribe as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you have racism going on in all parts of this show, but I like the fact that they're not using the inward or anything, what they're doing with the show is smart is like what we can show racism, but we're going to show racism in a smart way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're just going to go ahead and let these characters look at someone of color or look at someone that's different in a different way, and that will mark the way that we're going to deal with racism, I think it was a smart move to go then that direction.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I think with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing a really good job of portraying it without using a lot of the derogatory terms of the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the whole group that was on the military base, they said to them all the way off of base, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, they, I mean, they have a nice, nice setup now, no, that it's all cleaned up, but still like they obviously still have an issue with, with them being in the military.

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[SPEAKER_00]: during this time frame as well and then the Native Americans are all trying to keep people off the land, the government's just pushing themselves on the land and, you know, it's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all segregated.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I want to go on this, I want to take you back off of what you said, though, because Dick and the boys, Dick and the guys, and what I like about this is the fact is like, okay, so we're going to go on ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to move you guys off of base and let you guys have your own space because that's what is more comfortable for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's more comfortable for you, douchebag, because you don't want someone that is different than you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It looks different than you in the military, even though there's supposed to be serving and protecting our country,

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so Dick is looking at the opportunity of like I get to be with my friends and maybe not have to shield myself from this and I don't have to go ahead and read people's minds or anything I could just be myself for a little bit like he did with Lee Roy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and everything is grandmother pops up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the grandmother pops up and that scene was very airy and creepy and especially with everything that Dick is everything that I know about the shine and what he's doing and she even knows about his shine and what he's doing and she is look, you need to put a lid on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not something that he should be using because get this, not only are they're going to try and weaponize it, not only is the military going to weaponize it, but they're also trying to weaponize dick as well because he's also forcing him to do something that he doesn't want to do, but he has to do it under direct orders.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then at the same time, from the last episode, when they were flying over, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, when he got back, what did you see?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, it's more like, it saw me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of like a warning from his grandmother to him, like, hey, this thing's a little bit stronger than than you should.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe, maybe stop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do it on it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's let's not go further into

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You do not need to go through anything else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just put a lid on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Be saved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And well, we know that that's not going to happen because, you know, he's going to follow orders.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's good soldier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So then we have the scene where we have Marge and all them inside the classroom, there's actually a total reference again in the show, which is the total that I'm mentioning in my it, you know, the his town history thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So basically that is actually the counterbalance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's actually the protector and the good one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it is actually the chaos in the psychopath of what something that's totally different than Marcher.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Marcher is actually the protector.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I do like the fact that they're even mentioning the title in this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Marges also creeped up ice nails in this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we have a little bit of a foreshadowing of what's going to happen to her later on in the series.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, but we'll get to that in a minute.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But do you want do you have anything to add as far as that classroom seen or not?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that classroom scene, she got, well, she got what was coming to her really.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So then we have Will, she kind of welcomes home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: His mom finds the pictures and Will is telling his mom what happened at the cemetery.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Will's mom wants Will to tell Lee Roy about Veronica.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's talk about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about the first thing that happens.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He gets in trouble for the pictures that he has in the draw.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And once she finds the pictures and she finds out what will set, she's like, okay, she goes over to the police station and demands that she sees Veronica's father.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Clint is like, no, you're not a visitor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're not anyone that is a relative or anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not going to let you see him or anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I like how the fact that she's not dumb, she's smart.

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[SPEAKER_02]: as she knows what racism is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the fact that she's even from the south and now she moved up to the north and there's worse racism than it is in the south, then it was in the south.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, well, that's how you have a lawyer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did he lawyer up?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she gave them all the laws of everything that they've done wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I like she also like, um, she flut kind of played it off too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, uh, the kids were chaste in the cemetery.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So somebody's obviously still out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just like like you were saying, you know, it could have been somebody earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and then she went from there and she's like, you know what, let me go ahead and push this a little bit further.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, have you, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: has he lawyer it up and everything and then, you know, he's going by the books right and say well you're not family you're not a lawyer or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then she she goes home or whatever and then when she comes back she has this letter and she she talks to one of the detectives right from the deputy well she goes over to Veronica's grandmother yeah he's also her father's mother that's where she got the letter

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so she goes, she talks to somebody that's not Clint and she goes, I really, because look, I have a, I have a note now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They says I'm allowed to talk to him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because well, you can't get the OK on list to captain says it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I have the letter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So she's who gets what she goes on ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She talks to Veronica's father.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Veronica's father now confirms that he wasn't at home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she goes well with so bad about sleeping with a married woman.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not that back and then

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she's white.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knew the whole racism thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'd just be strung up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why you didn't want to say anything and not only that, whatever would happen to the woman as well, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I totally get this point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, I don't want no harm to come to mean.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I only do not know harm to come to me, but also don't want no harm to come to this, it is a woman that slept with me because of with her and I did because they're going to be hanging me up with a rope instead of sending me to Shashi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I totally get it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like I rather be in Shawshank than be honed in front of other people and be put out there like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And also to the woman could also die to because the husband could also kill her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I totally get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have this other thing and please, I'm just, oh, I'm sorry, go ahead and the whole town would ostracize her if she doesn't die, you know exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you also have where she asked tell some of you's, well, since you didn't lawyer up or anything like that, you're entitled to a lawyer, you also might get on house arrest because they don't have enough evidence on you right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You'll go to trial, but you'll get to be home with your family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have a more of an actual chance of defending yourself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like all of her experience from the silver rights movement that she had just come from,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and her husband, uh, remind me of his name again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Lee Roy, Lee Roy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's like, stop getting into stuff, stop getting in the masses and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is my job over here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she's going to go help somebody who's presumably is innocent, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's going to use all that power in that knowledge that she has, which is is awesome to try and get him at least some more time with his family.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I understand where Lee Roy is coming from.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, look, I work for the military, I work for the government, United States government.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're all already castizing me for being the skin color that I am.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need more fuel to the fire than what you're doing right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the same time, though, she's a stay at home mom, who is cooking and cleaning for Lee Roy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't really have much going on for herself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she's a civilian.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I understand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I totally get why she wants to do this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She wants to be the person that wants to do something right without someone telling her not to do something, when it, something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I like where she, where she's going with this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I definitely disagree with Leeroy with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I disagree with them too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you got to stand out for yourself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, okay, you're fighting racism in the military, that out here on these streets, you're not seeing the racism out in these streets as much as I am because I'm also a civilian who's witnessing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like no one's right or wrong is just that the fact that there's racism on both ends and their racism is different than what they're seeing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: by different areas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just think Lee Roy is wrong in this because I would want my white to stand up for for anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then again, this is someone of color, but still at the same time, though, he doesn't want anything to happen to his wife.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But his wife, I have to say she could take care of herself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's she's a strong independent woman who is not going to back down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we move into

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now we got, then we got the dinner table scene with, I thought for sure he was, she was wanting to tell Leeroy about the pictures at the cemetery because she goes, are you gonna tell him?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I totally thought she was gonna push him for that too but I think she also saw how uncomfortable will was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she just didn't, she'd like at the last minute, changed her mind and went and said, oh, he's got a girlfriend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or he has a crush and I love that moment that reminds me of us as kids when we have our first crush and we tell our parents and then the first person we run to is our mother and then after that is the father.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, oh, really.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So tell me more about her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I would like the fact that it's now a changed conversation at the dinner table, because I also think too is like, my son is also trying to do the same thing that I'm doing as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's trying to do something right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And just as I am.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's a related ability to him, mother and son.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so why she didn't ask him to see the tell him about the pictures, but I definitely like the dinner table scene.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really, it was a very funny loving moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've shown the innocence of the child and then what does leave what I do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He wants to pick his son to spend more time with him by going fly fishing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, as I'm not a big fan of fly fish, I would do other fishing, but not fly fishing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was watching it and they're out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're fly fishing and he's they almost get the fish right almost almost catches it, but then it comes off the line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He needs a new fly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I actually got irritated because his dad just left him in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, he's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's low tide tonight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's good to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, no, even if there's not a crazy monster out to get everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you just leave your your kid to go?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I know it's different times, but like, like, like, well, my son is like, well, I'm in the military.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My son knows some stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: fine, and then you start noticing like, and it is a scream, though, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, but as someone that lives like knows Boston and stuff like that, I didn't know what fly fishing was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been until my uncle introduced me to fly fishing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a big thing up in New England in the New England area and stuff like that with live fishing, but I also find fly fishing, oh, I like the other I like just a regular cast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like doing right, but anyways, I'm going to get it, but yeah, you know, he's the leaves he makes it to his truck and will is still out there holding onto his pole and then one of the the fish just swaps right up to him is like, oh, now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you can almost see it coming like something's going to happen, and then the fish kind of disappears into rocks and then boom, you have that and reach out exactly and even the fish look kind of weird, though,

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[SPEAKER_02]: on top of it like it didn't look like a normal fish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a weird, a weird looking fish, and then it just boom, Pennywise working his Hizzievo magic, again, yanks him under, like, was it maybe a foot, foot, deep water is now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a deep water, but still that's still scary because it's actually an arm that pulls him down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, this woman say that was not his father that he saw in the water, it was him

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[SPEAKER_02]: being burned up because he died.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think so?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he died in the future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He ended up dying in that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember on a chapter one where Mike sees a bunch of burn hands and stuff like that in the alleyway?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was actually the mill or whatever that ended up catching on fire.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mike's dead will dies in that fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm thinking, yeah, I thought because I thought it was his fear that his dad was going to die because he had crashed and Vietnam in the past.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why he has the scars on his face.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but I was also thinking too, what if something happened to him and Dick in the future, where they're looking for Pennywise or it and they craft.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a glimpse of him seeing his dad under water, but it makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think Pennywise could pull from the future into the past?

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[SPEAKER_02]: If that's the case, I think he could, but I think I'm leaning more towards the fact that, you know, it's actually, he's, he's, will is actually seeing his own self, not he did, but he's not, but will is not understanding that or anything, he's in present so he only thinks that his dad is going to be the one who dies, right, and he may not recognize himself and as we grow sometimes we look like our, our parents would only get older too, right, and also too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Will's dad is actually in it chapter one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that tells me that Lee Roy is actually survived this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that tells me that that was will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can see that I can see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, he gets swept up and his dad comes running back and pulls him out and then sees all the burns on his arms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you see our favorite balloon floating across.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to tell you that gave me the goose bumps on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, we're finally at the red balloons.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the fact that Lee Roy can actually see this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Lira, I think because his fear when he came running back, he thought, you know, something was happening to a son, he had that fear and then Pennywise just grabbed right onto that fear right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now he can start seeing stuff that Pennywise is doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That actually does make sense as well, but I was also going on the theory of the fact that, you know, they're not still connected within this community to get with dairy to the point where his brain is not poisoned by it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was thinking of the lines of the fact that because of the fact that they're new in town, that's why he's able to see the balloon, but you do make a very good dairy though on the fact that, you know, we know that this is actually amplifying fear it amplifies fear, which also amplifies it to actually kill and scare them out of people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: even mentioned it that, you know, some predators like to scare their prey and stuff to a point to where, you know, they finally get all that adrenaline and stuff in their system to taste quote quote taste taste the way they want it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, I think I think his fear of a sun drowning or something happening to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really spiked all that and then Pennywise since it's and she was there he was doing that to Will right and then he just latched on to that now now his dad's going to see see more of Pennywise actions and yeah and then and we see it later when will can't sleep right right so he looks out the telescope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I like to sing though, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where it's like, the kids are like, wait, does he eat us?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so now Veronica has the idea of using the pills because the mother has happy pills that make after they feel better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I learned to make the pills better, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But do they know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if you're as a sleep,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was funny, because as they were talking about it, and then she burned, I was like, anxiety meds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she brings out, oh, these are my moms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, anxiety meds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because get this, okay, I remember my doctor, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, I'm gonna help you with your fairings ID with taking your GD test, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So she gave me a small dose of Sanxas to see how I was gonna do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The good news is I didn't have any fear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The bad news is I felt like I was floating on a cloud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was so...

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[SPEAKER_02]: I slept.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have an anxiety tax after my last car accident that I was in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they tried putting me on say next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my brain was still firing off a million miles a second, but my body was just like, yeah, I'm here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But my brain was still like going like crazy and my body is just like not it was like still out of see But yeah, she pulls those out and I'm like anxiety bills Like Lily these people already think you're nuts now you're gonna drug the students In a little back to Jennifer Grove for selling a soliciting by forgiving her classmates

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, anxiety meds, well description.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that she has a hole for a whole new Pennywise moment at school, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she ends up not even taking it because she draws it down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But to be fair though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That would scare me too, especially if the stall is not opening for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm hearing someone that I know screaming for a life, look, come on, girl.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You need to go on ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Move yourself a little bit away from the toilet and not try to get the bill over the toilet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was just like, oh, no, that she tries reaching in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, mouth of those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's gone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, another thing too is I'm like, it could actually grab

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just like how he was going to drown will.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm thinking, no, do not put your hand down that toilet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was not the home germs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to another dream thing thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he comes out of the sink comes out of the toilet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you have toilet monster right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll get this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's actually why I was scared as a kid after the many series because I thought he was going to come through the toilet and grab my ass and pull me into the toilet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a problem with Saint Drain's for a while, but it's me too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's showers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, she tells Lily, oh, I feel so bad about what happened.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to make up and then she sees his jaw that Lily likes and she and now that jaw is also acting like she's that he's interested in Lily when he's really not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think his name is Tim, so get this, she goes, well, I'm going to go to the bathroom to freshen up and then Mark just gives like a, I swear, I want this character to die.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the actress is doing a fantastic job of playing Marge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's doing a great job of putting this character that I absolutely hate this character and just want to smack her in the face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's doing such a great job and and you know there's there's only a few characters like are a few actors that that could portray a character that you absolutely just hate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's doing such a great job with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it and hate it at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Same here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I got carry vibes from this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like then finally you see this we were talking about the bathroom

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[SPEAKER_02]: start seeing something in her eyes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they turn blood red, next thing you know, she has nails for eyes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, from from the the video, they were just watching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she was making like a weird face like I guess she's afraid of of those kind of things and and she's just like Roger rabbit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Freaking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The juxtaproloid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And their eyes are just like all over the place and then she goes to the what shop class.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm, and at the same time I'm like no girl.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't need to do that because now all of a sudden, I don't like care about her Because Lily's actually following her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like no, leave for be Lily, leave or be

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean at the same time I kind of was like there was a like a brief moment of redemption she was going to she was going to have right right before all this happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was actually going to tell her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that it was all set up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, Pennywise is Pennywise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know the plans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and she runs in, she has those, and I actually, like, I don't even know what her thought process was just using the freaking saw like it was because I think that the fact that, you know, it's like, okay, these are snails and I just want these snails off of my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know, maybe just what are those panic things just cut it off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, no, and then you see Lily on top of her, I'm like, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to Jennifer come over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, that's it because, you know, but the salt doesn't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she picks up the wood chisel and starts stabbing her eye and then Lily pulls it away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, all the classmates walk in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, what's in her hand?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I don't, here's a thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If March winds up telling them, oh, I have nails for eyes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I was stabbing my eyeballs out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You'll be going to tune over growth, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're all going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll have a whole new series called Juniper Grove.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or a March bite.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking that March is going to say, Hey, look, Willie didn't have anything to do with it or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what excuse she's going to have for plugging her eyeballs out, but, you know, I don't know, I don't know, I think you know what though, the thing is, though, I just started thinking about this as we're talking about it, you know how the patty kicks always look down on Lily for being kuku right now tables are going to turn on large now she's not going to be part of that patty cake group now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she was on the edge anyways, I think the girls were using her yeah the girls were using her peer pressure and stuff like that but at the same time though, this is an easy excuse for them to say oh, it must be a friendship they between Lily and her to be a little cool cool for cocoa puffs right you know, so I don't see her being part of the patty kicks anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, I don't see her being a part of it either if if she even says anything or if she even gets the chance to say anything, right, you know, I think she's gone in the next episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably there's just using her and I mean, they could still use her if she doesn't say anything right there's like see she is crazy and Lily is a not job right and they said and I could see no wonder why you want to be a part of want to be her friend your business crazy as she is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I knew you weren't on our patty cake.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The worst one because, okay, so another thing to is, I like how Lee Roy is also investigating the military and something that too is like, what are we dealing with here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And finally he, you know, he said, okay, I'm going to let you in and it comes to find out roses nephew is over there looking at the military base he lets them in and then you have that conversation between the nephew did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: which is Daniel I think is his name, but he basically, I just feel bad for Nick, because he's being weaponized to unlock this kid's head to get the information he needs, because Rose came out, he came out and I'm behind it with the, you know, the sergeant.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because of the fact that she gave them the wrong information.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now he has to interrogate Rosa's nephew and this scene was terrifying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Shaw, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: General Shaw.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, General Shaw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that whole scene.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is where the world building really started for this episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... when you get into it because you get so much history from him going into his mind uh... and his name is tenial tenial yeah tenial i don't know why it's a Daniel for some reason it's i think it's spelled pretty much the same just with a teen state of a d uh... but yeah i mean he he

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[SPEAKER_00]: Daniel fights him pretty well at the beginning, but then, you know, he kind of succumbs to to Dick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you get the history of, of at least what the tribe understands of this creature.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can see all the different benefits, stations that Pennywise uses, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: zombified like deer and then the moose the moose as well, which is also massive and so yeah, and then you also have the settlers as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's also part of another fair as well for the up or that tribe because of the what what happened with their ancestors and everything too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just a horrifying scene of seeing this happen and they're using the charge as a way to keep the balance

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[SPEAKER_02]: where it will get out and they have to stay within the charts itself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they end up having because they only had a one-shard, so they ended up having to go and get our lucky number 13, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: 13 shards and make a barrier around hoping that that would help

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[SPEAKER_02]: of using, you know, the tribes, you know, I'm saying the mythology within the tribe and stuff within the story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'd like this thing of where there's his, the doors where Dick is looking through the memories, and stuff with that Daniel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he goes into the door and there's like little Daniel sitting down and Rose is asking him about what, you know, I'm saying about if he remembers the story,

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he tells the story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that story is just horrified.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like she she boats down, you know, some stories are just for learning and and some stories are actually real.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she points out to that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he knows that it's actually real from her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes through the whole story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just it's horrifying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can only

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[SPEAKER_00]: dealing with this creature and it just slaughtering pretty much every one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It slaughters everybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It actually feeds on the fear of the tribe and then, you know, then finally dig.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like this moment where you can finally see the old house where the well is that we got from the first hit chapter one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then on the sudden, you see that Rose's eye goes down and he claps and he goes, thank you, I got everything I needed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he leads him to another door, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, do you remember?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He leads him to another door and then it's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like super bright.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now that was that was when we were seeing the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See this old dilapidated house.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's exactly where it is and the char, you know what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I just thought the mythology around this and the world building that they did for this episode was perfectly well executed and needed this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and someone that, and I actually know the lore of this, but for someone that, you know, that are just casual Stephen King fans or sometimes someone that has them read the books or anything, I like the fact that they're showing the history of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you give more substance to the story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You bring more to the world from what they understand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People who don't know will know that Pennywise is not from Earth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a possible way to possibly contain him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then also,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so Mr. Gray is actually the husband to her who actually was what the guy who was running the carnival.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, which is the one who was up, you know, get this that's also the same one that it also manipulated like he took the persona of him and made him into the clown and stuff like that because of the woman clown.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just want to point that out there, but we didn't, I know that you mentioned the part where Lee Roy going on in the middle of the street, you see Will with the telescope and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to get in with that just a little bit because I didn't get a chance to talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, I just thought it was really frightening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, you have, oh, this guy just walking down the street with his dog and then you see a balloon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, you see a clown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see a clown.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it scares the hell out of will.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Lee Roy is like, what the heck is going on?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he goes out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's Matt is hell, which he has a rewrite to be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you see the balloon up in the tree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, first he thinks it's somebody because

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, uh, his wife went to the station.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now they're being stalked, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he, you know, he thinks it's some maybe racial thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes out to go to confront and then yell at him, wake up the whole neighborhood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then then he hears something and he looks up and you see our favorite red bullet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, and I'm like, come on, the police, the police department is not going to go ahead and blow up a balloon and put it in that tree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think this is feeding more into into his fear now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in the bedroom bringing enhancing it and then he thinks that it may be he's going to be attacked again probably because he was attacked in previous episodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he goes in and goes confront so he has that adrenaline going and then you have the balloon back so I think he's starting to put

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, maybe two and two together with this and what's happening with their military mission.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I wouldn't be surprised at the next episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We actually have this, uh, the chief, I think, are the general of the military.

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[SPEAKER_02]: or the major, but I won't be subgeneral general show, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, general show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get wind of Lee Roy screaming out in the middle of the street because now that Alfa costed attention on him, which is something that he didn't want in the first place.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now it's making him look like he's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it could be,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, as Shah doesn't seem, I think he's more interested in figuring out this thing for Webin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then he is a racial attack out of all the characters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's the one that's least concerned about race at this point because he needs them, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, because Dick has that psychic ability, and Leroy is one of the ace pilots that they have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think he's going to be more focused on figuring out, like, is this creature's power expanding, maybe?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or... That's a possibility.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is he going to be compromised now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That can be another way for it to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all right, there's so many different ways that it could go, all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And keep you guessing, keep you moving, green.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I definitely like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that, you know, this was a perfect episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I liked this episode a lot better than episode three, even though I enjoyed episode three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just like the Lord and the world building, and it was actually the 15 charts that they actually have throughout the whole entire land that, you know, I just wanna make the clear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But still, I had a great time watching this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really felt like I was on the edge of my seat with the whole scene with March.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is actually a perfect well-balanced episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know some people complain about the CGI and episode 3.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I look like Scooby-Doo, but I was mostly enthused with the suspense of them with the camera than I was with the special effects.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's just the straight up fear that they were just trying to push and get out and you didn't know if it was going to be another theater scene just this time into the theater in the cemetery right where all the kids just gets slaughtered so I I was I wasn't too focused on on the CGI for for that one and into this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do like the effects that we have noticed with general shaw, meaning up with rows at the store.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't remember, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't remember until he saw our name and then everything started coming back to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you can already see that whole memory thing going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, within dairy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, because if you're way from dairy long enough, you forget about everything, but then once you come back, your memories from your past start coming through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's really well rounded so far, and I'm enjoying it, and I can't wait for the next episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, well guys, tell me in the comments.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you like this episode?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you like this episode?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Were you like Chris and I wherever you just enjoyed this?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The lore of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tell us when the comments below.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also too, I dropped my history of dairy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually more connected with the source material of the book.

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[SPEAKER_02]: then the actual TV show and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So go and check that out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I dropped that today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Check that out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And first thank you so much for joining me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is always fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for having me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone have a good night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Have a good night, everyone.

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