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IT: Welcome to Derry 1x08 “Winter Fire” | Series Finale Review & Pennywise Breakdown

IT: Welcome to Derry 1x08 “Winter Fire” | Series Finale Review & Pennywise Breakdown

The nightmare reaches its final chapter in IT: Welcome to Derry Episode 8, “Winter Fire.”

In this audio-only podcast episode, John and Chris break down the explosive series finale that brings the 1960s storyline to a terrifying close. As General Shaw’s plan to weaponize IT’s power spirals out of control, Derry descends into chaos, proving that human fear may be just as dangerous as Pennywise himself.

We dive deep into the episode’s biggest moments, including Dick Hallorann’s psychic abilities, the kids’ final confrontation with Pennywise inside the school, and the brutal consequences that define the bloody end of this era of Derry’s terror. From thematic parallels to Stephen King’s larger universe to what this finale means for the future of the IT franchise, we cover it all.


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[SPEAKER_00]: and hello movie lovers some of them to show so today I have my good friend Chris with me we're here to wrap up welcome to dairy episode eight winter fire i have to say this is actually how you do a season for now this is how you wrap up everything within the show this is how you do a pretty cool show and expanding on the actual universe that in the mushy eddy actually gave us

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have to say, this is fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really love what they did with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They expanded a lot in the lore, not only in the lore, but also did a lot within the lore of the movies and not so much as the book, but they managed to do so much within this show and I really do love what they've done with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This show, it just felt like it just kept going and it wasn't like it was a droning go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like a freaking awesome going, you know, like I was excited for each next episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same here as well, like I was on the edge of my seed and not knowing what was gonna happen next making my predictions because of the fact that I actually have probably the family tree of kids that might die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And everything and I was wrong about the deaths of the kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I actually have my friend Jamie from in the front row and we said, John, you always wanna wish death upon kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, it's not my fault.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just the way the story looked like it was going, but it didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the thing that I have to say about this is, I like how the people in Darry are seeing the darkness being unleashed, the fear and the confusion around the town, military tracking it through the home tire airspace and stuff like that, and then you've seen this darkness being pulled in within the town, and then you see the all the classmates of

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[SPEAKER_00]: Richie and Margaret and you know all the all the kids that we know and that was just something to actually see especially whenever you've had that whole entire thing where Pennywise shows up at the school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah and there he's using the principal as a puppet just as he actually uses everybody else's a puppet so I'm wondering if that's how Pennywise actually sees everybody that he's using as like a little puppet that he just carries around

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[SPEAKER_00]: by and he didn't even like he didn't even try to hide if he was like pretending we'd that he literally merrient at the guy it was a great scene I love that I was freaked out by that and then of course the kids try to run outside the door after they seem their principal die and then Pennywise just dancing on stage like it was nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, there goes the paticate crew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, we actually have the paticate being dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, through the deadlines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you have Veronica Lily, a March cleaning up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are witnessing the darkness of it in the missing kids from school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pennywise bringing kids to the source.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where it looked like to me at first, because on the fact that you have this wagon, that looks like a Pinocchio, you know what I'm saying from an army.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the card of Lydia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's over there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like how he's actually using the kids' hands to actually play the horn and things like that and him driving this whole entire thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like that darkness within it and also to the humor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The dark humor was really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That landed for me as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, it was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually kind of liked the glowing ice that gave the children as they were floating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, that's actually a pretty neat little, little buzz, tidbit right there for graphic wise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That way you don't just have like these dark, drawl faces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and I actually like those special effects because of the fact that it shows the implications of what the headlights are and what,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, what it does to the kids, whatever they look into those dead lights and in them float up in the ear and him on the ice driving this carnival card it gave me goose bumps and I mean it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was actually on the edge of my seat watching this episode because I was not expecting when I was expecting through this whole entire thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a ride that I did not want wanted to stop at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was just so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have Lee Roy, he's right about Will, Pennywise calls Lee Roy back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lee Roy knows Will is taken by Pennywise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dick's seeing dead bodies everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dick here in Voices, the kill himself, Dick becomes a blames Lee Roy for what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lee Roy tells Dick that Pennywise has Will and he needs Dick's help finding him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the thing that I have to say that really,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and getting him to go after will and try to find him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then knowing that Dick, he needs Dick's help to do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Dick is over there about the blow is brains out because of everything that he sees around him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he wise thinks that Dick is completely broken already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just feeding off of his fear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he thinks that he's not going to be much of a help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he ends up being a total lifesaver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He definitely does like once you get towards the end of it, then you realize how much a lightsaber dick is actually is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at this point in time, it's like, I'm going to stall a stall dick because I know that Lee Roy is going to go to dick for help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to stall him as much as I can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can lower the the kids into the source so that way I can get what I want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, man, does he stall until that time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, the other thing that really creep me out was seeing Will's pitcher, the poster of the lost kids with all the other kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Peace out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That really creep me out and then you have Veronica, March, and all them wanting to find will now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they wind up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like anyways, new, where they were the whole time and plastered everyone's wanted posters up on the tower.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was like, kids, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he knew they were there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He knew that he knew that they had the dagger too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he didn't mess with them, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like he's messing with them psychologically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: right because he knows where they're at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that he can't get to them because of that home tire dagger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's going after the weaklings first, which is the kids at the school, which makes more sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's also trying to figure out a way for Laura them into trying to say will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only way that he can get to them is by doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right and I think he understands the material of the dagger if he could get to a point to where the dagger wants to return itself, they won't be able to use it against him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because the dagger also is trying to reject where it's supposed to go and everybody was right about this and even though you and I thought maybe it's not true that it has this lower the rings kind of flavor to it where it's possessing this power over Lily where it's actually damaging her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then Marge kind of figures it out has their struggling with it in the woods, which you know, I have to give props to Marge because at first she was such a prick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to devour her and she's actually she's actually become one of the strong character friends, which, you know, power to the actor for pulling that off through the script and everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For a child actor like her to pull that off and have those layers to that character is a hard thing to do as an adult, but it's even more of a harder thing to do as a child.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it just goes to show you how much thought process and stuff that they did with Margaret, the actress who plays Margaret.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A little kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I really loved how she did that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We went from, oh, I want her to die with the patty cakes to all of a sudden you don't want nothing to happen to her because you want her richy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We grow old together and have kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but so much for Richie, but at the same time, though, you know, you actually do have that care Medicare thing for this character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You actually had that with some where I'm thinking of emotional attachment to a character that we love now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, for someone, a young child actor to be able to pull off a character that people would absolutely be annoyed with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then turn around into a character that people like, oh, man, I hope she survives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's just great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That means she did an excellent job as an actress to pull that off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree, 110% on that because that is like I said, it's a tough thing to do, but it's a tough thing to do when you're that young to be able to do it and know how to actually bring it in and bring it home,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so now we have Francis, he finds out that literally right when A-wall knows about Dick being with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Charlie finds out about Will being as he rose for tells them they don't stand a chance against it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dick needs to find the dagger to lock it back into the cage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rose helps Dick with voices in his head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dick drinks what Rose gave him, which is also the same drink that Mike, Mike, gave

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[SPEAKER_00]: He went, he ended up getting Bill the same drink in it chapter two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that was the same T. Yep, the same T to help calm down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: right to help calm down to try and see the visions that he needs to see, but I like how this mythology around it is like, okay, for someone normal like Mike and Bill, they're not going to be able to tap into someone else's mind or anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just going to be able to see the vision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like how it separates that to someone who has the shine and be able to expand on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you were right about one thing about the fact that, well, Francis doesn't no longer cares about the fact that Hayland went AWOL because he's already got when he wanted, but at the same time, though, he needs Dick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the only reason why he's even going after Lee Ryan at this moment is because of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they both took off together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't realize he didn't realize that they had formed a decent bond with each other

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[SPEAKER_00]: right, but Francis forgot one thing though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are people of color and people of color during those times are going to stick together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because of everything that happened, especially with the fire and everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, but Mar, okay, so now we also have Rose tells them that they are, I like how the show actually breaks it down and the like look, you're going

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like how they actually gave her some room to actually do some stuff with the cat with the cast and stuff because she's just pops in and out here and there in certain episodes, but like how she is now needed for this mission to be able to take down Pennywise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of pushed her off to the side, which, you know, for the time frame that makes sense to because, you know, the racism and stuff of the time, it didn't just pertain to the black culture, it also pertain to the Americans and stuff as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they kind of pushed her off to the side, and she was not a mean focus and now they need her, they need her right there because of the fact that her people actually don't with stuff like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and, and then she, she remembers that the, the, the dagger is out about and she, she helps them figure out a place to put it to resecure the barrier, but they have to do it before it gets out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And before he finds out that the dagger is going back into that, um, into the tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, I'd so turned the entire dairy into like silent hill with all the fog and everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, yeah, that's pretty much what he did, but I also like how they did this though is like how she's explaining it's like a condu like a conductor where that one pillar connection that one dagger can actually fix everything despite maybe the military having all of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like how they said that it acts like a conductor and because it acts like a conductor, everything's runes together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like that whole entire deal of them giving you that mythology around it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's something else that I really have to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now we have Mars driving the pillar fell out of the truck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dick found the dagger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ron, and I like how they do this vision with Dick whenever I think of his margin or Lily that put yeah I think of his Lily who puts the dagger back in the purse and it just shows his long drop of the axe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a kid like an infinity drop and then it goes into kind of like an infinity mirror kind of thing with Dick right that's actually pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It definitely, you know what though, and reminds me of West Crava's new nightmare, where you actually have the sheets, you know, and then the sheets and everything you go into Freddy's world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where you see, you know, that's something that I really like that they did with this with Lily is they should drop it and it's like an endless drop in that person dick is actually seeing it through the visions of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was pretty cool to see that and then the girls are trying to kill it the the girls are trying to kill it the the dagger does have power that it can't possess someone and go crazy they found that they found the carnival coach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is, okay, I don't know about you, but I felt like Arnold at this moment where it's like shot top because of the fact that they go over to the carnival, they're following these kids that are up in the, up in the thing you have Pennywise drive in the stage coach and they're going to go, well, is that you will?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm like, would you shut up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just went yell at him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, why are you screaming?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, pity wise is there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it is there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why is such a kissing dream?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just the illnesses of the children, though, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that yes, they're looking for their friend and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then at the same time, they're trying to call out to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, they can't, they don't know that if he can, they can call out to him or not

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they're trying to jump up and reach out the molly's floating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I definitely like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have all the time to see the stage coach just, you know, just stop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Pennywise comes out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's scarier as hell at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pennywise got like the scent of a polar bear, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He smells every his scent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has a really good nose on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He does not know a legura.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has no allergies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crystal clear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do like this moment where, you know, they're having the confrontation between him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, and then you have finally there by themselves and you're also seeing dick

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[SPEAKER_00]: going into in Pennywise's mind, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stopping him right before he eats a marriage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But before that though, this is something that I really have to say that maybe a laugh was when Dick goes in through Pennywise's mind, this character's calling him Bob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Bob, my name is not Bob, but what is going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going on here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can see he's literally trying to figure out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can see the thought like process go through as mine and it is like, I am not to Bob.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, okay, Bob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's feeling like every bump that Dick is failing as they're going through the woods to try and get to them before Pennywise does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He falls and he goes backwards back and I just love this scene.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has such dark humor to it, but it's so well deserved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't scarce guard as Pennywise in this moment in this in these scenes is one of the best things about welcome to dairy for the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was great and then you see them slowly he figures it out one one of the bumps kind of messes up the camouflage and he sees digs are Right because he sees one arms wide the others on his black disc is that you I don't know what you're talking about Bob

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We still play in this because we talked about like last week's episode, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're Pennywise is playing it off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it goes, I'm Pennywise, the dancing daddy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then now you've had a dick who's doing the same thing that Pennywise is doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, what are you talking about Bob?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you then your head a little harder than we thought you didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there was a lot of blood, but still, but I liked how they moved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then also Dick is now revealed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And but also to I also like how they now Margaret has that confrontation between it between Pennywise and talking about the fact that Richie was the one which is her son Richie tozer and we talked about this how I first I was going with the most popular thing for the theories and stuff like that because I'm like, okay, maybe maybe not that finally last.

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[SPEAKER_00]: episode, I actually believed it because it actually does make sense and he's like, well, your son is the only one that stopped me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're going to have a son and you're going to have a son and he can see the in basically, Pennywise can see is the all in and all knowing who can see the past future and present.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is like past present future, it's all kind of gets a little combabulated, but I like this, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the fact that they did this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And also, too, remember when Richie was having, I don't know if it's not Richie, yeah, Richie, the her son in chapter one, because I hate fucking clowns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, and then the mother also says,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Richie and chat chapter one also says let's kill this fucking clown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, it's mirroring in it chapter in the past and also in the present day of it chapter one, which I really, I was kicking out over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she, uh, he, he gave a full, like, hey, you're going to have a kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's what he's going to look like, and maybe I'll just kill you now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, like, well, crap, if he kills her now, does that get rid of Richard the future?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would go to happen?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That actually, that pretty much kills Richie and Richie was not a revenge on the thought of if this happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I also want to tell everybody this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was right, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody was saying, oh no, pretty wife can't see the future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can't see the present.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He only, no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in this universe, in this movie universe, not the book universe, in this universe because he passed present in future, which also means that will didn't just see his father, father in that, and that string.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That means that he saw himself as an adult that pulled himself down into the string and saw himself not his father, but he also thought that that was his father.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't, it was him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just gonna say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were talking about that a couple of episodes ago, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When he was fishing in the river with his dad and I got upset because like why would you leave your kid at a creek?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and what made work great in a book may not work so great on screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they have to work it in the way that the universe for this movie universe is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what to me that that doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and kind of bridges it together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It still keeps what the book wants at heart, but makes it more visually appealing on screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I promise you this, if Stephen King wasn't high on cocaine, this probably might be the way that he did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably, but you know, I also have to say this, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we were, so I also like how Pennywise is about to kill Marge and then all of a sudden he freezes and creepy face and it's the, uh, then after that, we find out is the dagger that actually saves her from that and then she pulls away and then they want wound up running away with will believe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I also like she has Margaret Tonser's Richie's mother, and then you have Daniel and Leveroy goes after Pennywise's Pennywise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Military shoots them, Daniel is dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Leveroy tells Will de Berry the dagger in the tree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Willis scared.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't know if he can do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Francis wants Dick and Francis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Seast Pennywise, Dick is in Pennywise's head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We already talked about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have a lot going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's tons going on right here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Daniel and Leeroy, I felt bad for Daniel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got the shit in the nails, especially with Dick going into his mind and doing the stuff that he did to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pulling all those emotions and everything just to get the story that he needed to find the piece.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then labor-wise injured and then that allows will like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I can do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you don't have to be me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have to be you and believe in your own self.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically make your own path and believe in your own self.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that game will encourage some good encouragement to be yourself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Be as strong as you as you need to be and go about it your way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't don't be like me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh choose your own path basically and that that that was pretty encouraging for him in that particular moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By then you have this whole entire thing of the of now Francis is in front of Pennywise and I'm like if he wakes up he's gonna bite his face off if he's been directly in front

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[SPEAKER_00]: It happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was really hoping for until.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was going to the side right after the side and he misses him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Francis was smart for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I like how he basically Francis acts like he's a highway patrolman like check and drivers license.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can go now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can go and it's like I can go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I was gonna know anyway, is it what are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, who do you think you freaking are, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like that moment with, I am the law.

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[SPEAKER_00]: From Dutch Dred, it's like, you're like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's just looking at like, okay, what do you want me to do, okay, all right, you know, I could just flick you and you die, right, right, because you can go and then, because it's niffs, just I know you, I remember you're sent, oh, well, this is not a good Francis,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden it's face transforms into that hobo from that boy guy and now you see me now

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like how he's over there skipping over to that over to the tree just as the kids are trying to get the dagger in there and then you can say the resistance happening with the with with the pillar with the DAG years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like how it takes all of them to try and do this I'm like and I'm on the edge of my seat here I'm like come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: how like it is just going to push it to the other season is this going to be a new season he he makes it out but somehow it gets pushed back what's going to happen let's go to happen and then and then and then you get me anxiety and fear and this point right and then Dixie's Dick and Rose see the tribal leader and the tribal leader reveals

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[SPEAKER_00]: Richie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Richie's back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love this moment, Richie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where he flips, can he rise off?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of was like a looney tunes come on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Looney tunes, um, cartoon in a sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the road, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all of a sudden, you have richy going in there with them and pushing, pushing it in to the tree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden, you see all the shapes that it has formed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like the CGI was amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's flipping through all these different forms,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was freaking that was an awesome transformation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to lie that was probably one of the best parts of the all the CGI in the season I know some people didn't like the cemetery scene.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They said that it kind of reminded them of like Scooby-Doo Kind of the heart of mansion Right

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[SPEAKER_00]: which I can understand, but for me, I was just going to send more into the story than the CGI for me to even care at this point, but for this finale, I feel like the CGI is really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think they listen to the audience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, they low key listen to the audience and it's like, okay, we need to step up our game on the CGI stuff here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they went and did a fantastic job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, after this happens, then after all this happens, more just that rich rich is fuel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dick watching he sees Ricky Richie Dick tells Rich is parents that Rich is with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love that moment of him of Rich just miling back at him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's like, everybody thought that was like a little creepy, but for me, I thought it pulled on the emotional attachment to him and was like, oh, okay, it didn't get to him because he didn't get to the dead lights or anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So therefore he, it could not form.

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[SPEAKER_00]: shapeshift into richy, so I like that aspect of it and then you still he was still pretty much pure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, I mean, he went out in a pure way, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's say he saved March.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that was like a hero's way out, really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that they kept him from being zombie fired, looking

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[SPEAKER_01]: And dead light, dead pen, you know, I mean, I mean, we too, because I think that's the perfect way for Richard to go out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want him to go out with the dead lights.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it had taken the form of Richie, because then it races everything that March remembered about him in the heroism of what he did for her to save her life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a very touching moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was actually, I was actually happy that the deck actually showed up to the future.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he didn't, he didn't really have to, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then also, too, I also liked how margins give in the speech.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the scene that pulled on my, like I'm bamboing over Richie flipping Pennywise off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm over there crying like a baby because of the fact that what Marges' saying about Richie and as the funeral, and it's just, it pulls on my heartstrings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, she even admitted that, you know, she only knew him for like a month, but it was, he was such a great person that they formed this bond and and the fact that he saved her and everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was a very emotional, very great speech for for this ending.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then also to then you have the reminder of Richie hang up with the airplane in the tree, which is a great need in a main straight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and hit Main Street.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you have Richie and then you have Lily talking to her dad's grave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now she has closure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with it because before it was like, I cannot go to my dad's grave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go to my dad's grave or anything because I want to remember my dad for who he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also scared to go there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now she actually has a reason to go there and just add that closure with her dad apologize to me and I think that that's going to help her move on from this point forward for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then margin Veronica looking over the town, March tells the league about what Pennywise said about having a son from the future and that her son and his friend stopped it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do Pennywise wants to kill someone from the past?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which we are going to go to the past and season two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You think we're going to go to the past?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm pretty sure we are too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, you know, you're just going right at a chapter one, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, yeah, but I think they are going to go into the past, but I think it's going to go even more into the dairy history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then maybe part three is going to pick up where will and Veronica and all that more probably.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I could see that I'm excited for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did such a great job with the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just am at static for a season two, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited for all three seasons because they're only going to have three seasons of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that it's very well deserved very well-eated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, I think it's one of the best things streaming right now, honestly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree, this is probably one of the best horror shows that we can have in the best way to wrap everything up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have to say this is probably the best TV series of the year as far as I think so, even though I like task task is still going to be my number one show that I really love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me be all max.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But as far as a horror show goes, I have to ring this is like a number one for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As far as I know, it's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been trying to find something to keep my attention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this one, it cat me on the edge of my seat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You never really do what was going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you lost all the kids at the first episode for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here I am wishing more death on the other characters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I actually know the timeline since I've got that because I'm even a book, but then I also have to remember to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to separate myself from the book allowed the show to actually work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, but that's also why I'm doing this lore, the dairy stuff for the lore of the book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that way people can actually see the difference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, the thing, the other thing I want to bring up is, okay, in the book, we'll dice up cancer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And his wife

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh will winds up uh dying inside that factory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was thinking maybe and in season three will is going to die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Veronica's going to die at some point because of the fact we hear her voice in the drain where Beverly marshes and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So at some point she's going to die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know for right now that's where I'm leaning more towards this part

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now we actually have, let's see, we want to, okay, so Dick is going to the overlook as a cook.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm going, you guys, let's, let's, let's the worst can happen at a hotel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that made me laugh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm like, really, dude?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have no idea what this is going down there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is just the beginning for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, yes, it is he said that I'm like, ah, they're so, so much that could go wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But some people are saying that they might actually do like an overlook hotel thing with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe do like a shining HBO Max series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And part of me is like, do I really want to do that, but I actually get it because it also expands even more of the lore and stuff within the Stephen King universe to actually really fix some of the mess that they did with the other movies and the one huge universe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really bringing a lot of the classics back to the surface too, and I kind of like that because people are starting to look back at the originals and stuff like, oh, this is really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see where they got this, I mean, not as not many people necessarily read the books.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not really a remake, but it's like a remake sort of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just kind of like revamping the the franchise expanding on the Franchise and expanding on the Lord while also giving us something new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's that's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we Roy is out of the military, uh, honorable, horrible discharge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rose wants everyone to protect the pillars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rose is like, I had enough of this shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys rock your own.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna have my first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You, the curse now belongs to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Goodbye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Goodbye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they're like, oh, I don't know anything about sheep out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to Right, but the father, but Lee Roy does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm not, I like how Charlie is no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I make your the ones who notice about chief.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All I'm going to do is protect this pillar and that's all I'm going to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's actually where it's called back to edge after one because he's actually teaching my

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rose once every one of his fellow rose knows it will be back in 27 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wakes up again when it wakes up again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Leroy and Charlotte wants to leave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once the movie always type out, well, will knows if he leaves that he will forget everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Veronica kisses him and then also too, Hank and Veronica are leaving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then what else like well, if I keep writing you, you won't forget who I am, you won't forget any of the memories that we have, which also is like his family is basically being the lightsaber or the lighthouse for this, uh, for this town.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Veronica, yeah, Veronica Kisses him, Charlie is wanting to stay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lee Roy wants Charlie to help with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Veronica leaving Barry with Hank.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mrs. Kersh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's in a, no, no, she's actually in Jennifer Grove.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's being just, she's lies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's talking about a gibberish and then 27 years later, you're hearing screams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The same song playing on the record player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought to myself, Penny

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I was thinking of this Pennywise coming to get her to kill her to take on her persona.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I could see that because she also took her persona in in chapter two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was just thinking on that end of the scale.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though he had her in the deadlines after they wind up taking it and everything else, all those other kids are okay now because they're not part of the deadlines anymore.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we have this whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She sees Beverly Marsh, a morning over someone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's someone is her mother.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because her mother, why does I have killing herself?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that also leads into just being Beverly and her father.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, and I thought that was a great way to put that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They put a memorial at the end of the episode for the actors that played Miss Kersh as well because I believe she passed away, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, I once I actually saw the show in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, I was done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, it was like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the the older actress, I believe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking the gun, uh, the, the older one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The older actress, uh, yeah, I'm just happy that she was able to reprise over roll again and give us this one last performance as, um, Mrs. Kerch and also too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was, um, uh, in loving the Maria of Joanne Greggson, which was, uh, Miss, Miss Kerch, the older older actress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's one more thing I want to mention with this, though, too, is they actually got the actress that played Beverly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At first, I'm like, was this just a deleted scene that they had, and that they shot when these kids were little, and that this was just left over shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then I looked at a Google that didn't know everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, the actress came back to reprise the role of Beverly, just for this one scene, but I'm like, but they went and I'd probably de-aging her to look like her because she doesn't look like that now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been since 2016 or 2017, the movie came out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'd like this little call back to the first one, and also introducing us into the timeline that we know from Itch after one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing what the aging could do to she looked fantastic in that shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, she did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't even look like it was the aging effect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looked so clean, so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is probably as clear as I could get as you can get like Civil War like with Robert Downey Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But still, I thought the series is fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought everything about I loved everything about this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait for season two or in season three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's if Netflix doesn't screw the pooch and doesn't give us what we want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, for right now, I wonder if I'm happy with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to actually own this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can actually have it on my rack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: for everyone that's watching tell us what you liked about it what you didn't like about it tell us in the comments below this is open discussion of like to actually know what you guys think if not that's okay um we're going to be going to close out but is there anything that you want to add as far as this ending goes for the finale

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm just, I'm stoked to see where they go with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they did an excellent job on this entire season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I hope they can keep up the momentum, honestly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Me too, as long as any Moushiyadi is attached to this, we're gonna be getting a lot more content as far as that goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's gonna be great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And guys, I just want to let you know we I did drop episode two of dairy the town history and I'm going to be diving into chapter three pretty soon is that's dealing with the black spot even though we got the black spot from it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to dairy this is actually this is actually the lore from the book that I'm using so it's going to be different more it's going to be a lot different than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just want to thank everyone for watching and also to if you did if you listen to us on the audio only podcast going ahead, rate us that give us a five star review, let us know what you guys think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to be out guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope everyone has a great scene Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll catch you guys on the next one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you very much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for joining John.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very welcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very welcome.

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.