Hackers (1995) Review | Does the Cult Classic Still Hold Up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, movie lovers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking to show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So today I have my very good friend Jason from It's not that bad podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're here to talk about actors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This has a 30% on run made up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, what better way to bring one of my guests on that to see if it's actually not that bad his perspective and do this thing by seeing and what's going to end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see this out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And hey man, welcome back, it's been a while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It has been way too long.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am stoked for this together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When you told me the movie that we were watching and I'm like, wait a second, I've never actually seen this film before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I get to watch a new movie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We get to talk about something totally from the 90s, completely my era.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is, there is a lot to talk about with this film.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of stuff that does not hold up in comparison to what we have now in 2026.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be something one of those things where we can say, well, things were different in the 90s and then it's not going to be hard for people in 2026 to be able to relate to the stuff and the knowledge that we had back that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, you take a look at the very premise

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[SPEAKER_02]: Usually people just sitting in front of a computer, hopped up on jolt cola, their eyes cranked open with toothpicks and all they do is sit and they stare at that monitor like humans on bees, hands on keyboard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Great!

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now we're going to turn that into an hour to have with lots of action

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get in get this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember at the movie theater for me, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm seeing the movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm seeing the poster hackers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what the hell is that even about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I went and seen something else that I knew and then one of my friends, I didn't know where it was with his mom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard him go hackers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, how do you know about this movie?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I don't know anything about this movie other than the fact as the word hackers on it has Angelina Jolie and this has no nothing makes me want to go see this in the theaters as a kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I think that's what going ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was good to say.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I need to get the set of the way now because of course we're looking at a film that is, oh god, like 31 years old this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this film in hindsight is fascinating.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We take a look at the cast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, it's angeline.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's surely in a younger role looking like a Timo Vulcan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: fair enough, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But for anyone who's been watching Daredevil born again season two and seeing Matthew Lillard in this, like if your understanding of anything the Matthew Lillard does was he was shaggy in the live actions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Could we do films?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is not a stretch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the only reason you know Matthew Lillard is because of Daredevil born again season two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's wrapped in because here's a thing my Matthew Liddard I grew up watching him on screen one, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a very different comparison to seeing them in movie like hackers, but it's here's the thing though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It actually fits in with this personality at that time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he's always playing these over the top characters, especially in the movie's senseless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You also played in a,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, he also played and she's all that, but still seeing Matthew Lillard and this is totally Matthew Lillard in the 90s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is everything you want it from Matthew Lillard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It also has a dude from the crow in there who played Tintin and you know, I remember as a kid seen, I was like, oh, that's Tintin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, this is Stu.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, I can hang with these guys for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I also, you know, I'm, I'm of a certain vintage, we'll put it that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So to see Fisher Stevens in this and immediately all I'm picturing is the guy from short circuit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm expecting some point going, oh, her pants are blazing for you Newton Crosby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rick on that hackney system.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I mean, I get the 80s were a time and pretty much anything went in the 80s, but oh, Fisher Stevens, you think that that was a joy-spect, and the problem is it's still stuck on my head because it was the most memorable one liner from that movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, don't eat five red.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna dance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We danced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sharks are good too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to do a review of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was something I've seen of the first.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I missed the short circuit films.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Me too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was such a different time, like you said, but it was such a blast watching that movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially the both of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I have to say this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really feel like I'm threatening in this movie at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know it was because the whole short circuit thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, Fisher Stevens in this comes across as the coolest guy in the uncoolest group of kids.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I remember we on on my show and it's not that bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We covered the movie Antitrust with Ryan Philippe and Rachel Lee Cook and Claire for Lonnie and a lot of the characters in that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh, you think you're so cool, but you're not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what it feels like it feels like you must be with these hackers, but they won't let him be at their table.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, okay, I need to blackmail the person's blackmail the person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the way I connect by blackmailing the mother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is like the dark side of revenge of the nerds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, someone gets kicked out of the lambdas and they decide to create their own fraternity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're going to get revenge on the rest of the nerds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me, for someone that has watched this repeatedly on correct TV as a teenager and in Washington theaters, only seen the poster, I'm going to have to get this if I was talking about nostalgic way, I would give it a least maybe 4.5 on a five because the fact that I didn't know shit about this and all until like later on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it didn't get into my teens, which he gave me in a perfect time because then it was actually more relatable to me as a teenager versus it being in my 20s and not being a bit relate to any of them because they're in high school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's how I would actually count it as.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think going into this film again, this was the very first time I actually watched this movie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So based on just initial watching the trailer and the soundtrack of this film is surprisingly really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_02]: obviously around this time we look at music and everything was grudge, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there was also really good budding techno scene that was coming up and there were a lot of fantastic tracks on this soundtrack.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was really intrigued by seeing young performances from known actors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: a good soundtrack and a 90s take on, you know, the computer of the time, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The people's understanding of the information super highway and these cool rebels that were in like the the cybersphere.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I went in with this with a six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the fact that you went in there with like a six and you know I'm excited once we actually break this net thing down by seeing by seeing about what you thought of it going coming out of it and stuff too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm interested in that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hack the plant, or at least, Hack your neighbor's Wi-Fi because tonight we're diving into one of the most glorious, ridiculous movies of the 90s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to movie loves night and I'm joined by Jason from it's not that bad podcast as we reviewed the cult classic hackers the movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That convinced an entire generation that hacking looking like skateboarding into a nightclub with techno music blasting in the background.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking roller blades, we're talking floppy disk, we're talking angrily and girly, looking cooler than every human being alive in 1995.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And set how every computer in this movie, it's about to launch missiles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These people are typing with the intensity of someone diffusing a bomb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, I still look at the keyboard like it's personally betrayed me when my password doesn't work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What still works about this movie?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What age like expired blockbuster popcorn?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And whether hackers is actually a secret masterpiece or just pure nineties chaos injected directly into our veins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So grab your role of blades, boot up your giant CRT monitor, and whatever you do,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I don't plan it, I

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I have to say this, the opening scene on loan makes me, at first you're not sure what's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see this very dark blue kind of thing that's happening with the FBI banging into this person's door and then you then you see the export date out of

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[SPEAKER_01]: house and then he gets court and then they wind up giving him a sentence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like, I can't believe like, what would you do if you're a kid and you have to rely on technology to do your homework and you're not even allowed to touch a keyboard until you're 18 perfe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also feel bad for the mother in this situation is because of this whole entire situation, she's $45,000, probably going to have to sell her house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's probably going to have to move somewhere, push that, which basically happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And also too, I bet the husband ones have leaving us all because of their own son.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So everything is because of his own fault and his own doing his own storm that he created within this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: hacking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't feel bad for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if it was a teenager and I'm sending this I'm like, way to go do that's impressive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Me as an adult, I'm like, you're a little jerk off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All this stuff that's happening is because of you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this, I mean, I understand that the entire opening sequence is trying to set up the, you know, the, the back story of zero cool because obviously this is a brain of story that is a brain of characters and we're going to kick things off with the bang well we're going to kick things off with the FBI right cool and I do like the energy that it does start off with the court scene I don't hate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: this scene.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a little quick cut, but again, this is the 90s.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm willing to remember what it was like 30 years ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, though, it is a small, weird way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This actually sets up dates, mothers, character, or Murphy, a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because like, when we eventually do, see, you know, meet them again after the opening credits.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, they, they've moved

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it me or is Dave's mom the most laxed daisicle mother in the history of laxed daisicle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, like she's walking around Like she was just a girlfriend over for the night and I'm like that's it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's your son Put some pants on girl right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like way to relax to be a mother And there's like okay, well he's 18.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all good

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't need it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He already knows what the birds and bees are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'll be fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, better my soul.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, and yeah, the fact that the mother is kind of set up in this way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like clearly, Dade was an unsupervised youth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, who just happens to be a genius.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It does happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Duggy Houser was existed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So why not?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just Duggy Houser is not hacking the planning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He just popping up his corral word perfect in doing his diary at the end of each show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here we get a very hands-off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: set of parents.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now the dad just boots out afterward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But this sets the tone for the dynamic between the two that is actually going to play down the road.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So in a hindsight kind of way right off the bat, it's a whole lot to take in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When you get to the end of the film, you realize just how important that setup is, not just for date, but also for his mom as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and I do feel like that she's an essential part of the movie and it's important, but at the same time though, it doesn't feel like she has a presence in the film that much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's a little like maybe three scenes, she's in her underwear, she talks to stayed and she's like, are you on that computer?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've been on that computer all night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because yeah, and I'm also a virgin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's also in another scene where she's giving cookies to his friends that she doesn't even know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's New York City acting like it's Mississippi where they welcome everybody into their house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: then she's in one more and one more scene after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like she's there and not there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, but even when when she first meets Kate, a little bit of a genre, I know we're kind of going to get ahead of ourselves here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like, you know, it takes one look at Kate and those, well, I see what all the fuss is about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you were just talking about you wish that yourself would get out and meet girls.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now here's Angelina Jolie in all of her pixie cuteness.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, it's like, okay, so that's what the fuss is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't mind the character of Lord Murphy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, but yeah, it's almost like they needed a little bit more, needed a little bit more time to develop her, but is a very hands-off kind of parent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it also explains then why Dave went with her instead of his father when they separated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, it does set up like this whole entire thing of the date is the one who ended up putting trauma on his mom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's stuck in the situation now to where they are moving to New York because of the things that they did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now they're default now they're also divorced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the dad's not even in the picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just him and his mom and he's trying to read just into the life of having a computer again is that's all he has in his life is just a computer meanwhile the mothers are they're struggling with the fact of I got to restart my life over again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in this little small

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[SPEAKER_01]: as a department, my son was nine years old, whenever he hacked the planet, is now been is now gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything that I work my ass office now gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm probably about $45,000 in debt because of him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm still stuck with him because his father doesn't want nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I had to make sure this little ball bag doesn't get touched a computer for 18 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in my mind,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as a teenager, I'd be like, oh, way to go, Dane, way to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got your 18th birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see you do some hack.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's the thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The minute he turns 18, she's like happy birthday and we want his honest computer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the thing that he did that got them into the trouble in the first place.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I don't know if she's throwing off by the fact that her son is casually throwing around the he's still a virgin, you know, with the casualness of Tommy Wiseau in the room.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He may have just said, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, how do you sex life?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's been a fight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, hi, mom.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is the most casual, I'm still a virgin drop in the history of I'm still a virgin drop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, really did we need to go there, but she, the fact that she's not on his case, the minute he gets on a computer on his 18th birthday, like, have we learned nothing, mom?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Seriously?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And also too, there's no birthday cake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing there for him other than the fact that it's his 18 birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she gets him full range on the computer in his room, when it should have been in the living room on that little small or maybe on the coffee table, because I probably small, when you can even put a computer desk in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it should have been somewhere where she can watch him because I know if I just lost my house and took me 18 years to rebuild when I'm losing him still trying to rebuild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's going to go in and have the computer might dump inside of my house and my living room.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, John, we're cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're friends.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You cost me $45,000 in screw your

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because we 45 grad there is no birthday cake for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll because I will listen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No birthday cake for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not no birthday cake for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How dare you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then dayd winds up hacking a local television station.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another hacker by the handle of acid burn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tanner's Day's Attack and an eventually kicks him out at school, Dave joins a group of hackers, Raymond, the Phantom Freak, Sanchez, Aminiel, Serial Killer, Goldstein, Paul Lord Dicken, Cook, Show, Joey Pardella,

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[SPEAKER_01]: a novice hacker without any with an alias and the youngest member in Kate acid burn lidy the hacker who kicked him out of the TV station earlier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's already within 20 minutes, maybe not even 20 minutes of his birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He winds up hacking into

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[SPEAKER_01]: local television company.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm not going to lie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was geeking out a little bit about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, to see the tape robot that that is actually in the the archives and loading in the VTRs and whatnot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like for someone who works in television, this is the part where I was like, oh, oh, the tape robot, all the tape robots, one of the coolest things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you watch it go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, you take a look at this, though, and you know, I don't like to go political.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just going to point this out just as a matter of observation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This film is in like the mid-90s.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the fact that the show that was booted off the air for the Twilight Zone, thanks to his hacking of the tape robot, was something called America First and sounded very right-wing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like, what did you guys know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what did you know it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because that is fascinating to watch, you know, from today perspective, but the whole idea of hacking the television station, I mean, you see these clips and the stories of people who have actually hacked TV stations, there was one where I think it was like a PBS station that was hacked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and someone put, you know, had a mask on and they were dancing around and they cut into an episode of Dr. Who back in like the 80s.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You also, I think there was a station.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was in Seattle where someone had hacked into the emergency broadcast system and put out this warning message that zombies were rising from the grave.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That same sound bite can be heard on the

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh God, worship music album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what though, like, seeing, I actually like that scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the scene when we see him picking out different music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking of anthrax now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But as well you should.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I like seeing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the fact that, you know, before everything was digital, that's how they would do things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You would get a robot put in different things and then they would go on ahead plug it in probably the same way that you would actually see the national anthem at the end of each programming they would pull out the videos that they had already pretty long and then you would insert that so I just thought it was fascinating on how he's doing this and he's watching TV through his computer which is dialogue by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm wondering, okay, so you watched about 10 movies and one setting, hacking this local station.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All I could think of is the buffering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's half.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But also, so there's this scene where he calls up someone at the station, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, yeah, oh, yeah, I got to this guy to this guy thing, I need the phone number on your modem.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No one is ever going to give up to some stranger on the telephone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the phone number to the modem of the computer that they're on that this is one of those just one person thinking properly or critically would end that entire scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, all they would say, look kid, I don't know who you are, but I'm only a minimum wage security guard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to go on ahead and give you the code off the back of the

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[SPEAKER_01]: can be off the back of the router.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, we already tracked your number zero cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So guess what, you're going to get a rest of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And your mom's going to have to probably move the Kansas now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, can you place something better than twirling zone on the air if you're going to hack the network?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there was also the Tarzan movie that was also being played as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unlike, come on, dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pick up with something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Put some Scarface on or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's 1995.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's throw in some Batman, the animated series.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Show some danger if you're going to go in and hack something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have acid burned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he winds up saying mess with the best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't like the rest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do like the back and forth between him and this other hacker that's messing him up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he doesn't even know who it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a little bit of a mystery element to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then finally he's like, okay, I'm going to

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[SPEAKER_01]: The next morning is when I'm just you better not been on that computer all night, because if you are, you're going to go back to prison.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: do you remember what computers were like in the 90s?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were not quiet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were loud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And those keyboards cracked like you wouldn't believe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know if his mom is, oh, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're finding herself to sleep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, little Jack Daniels in there,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you got money saved from the birthday cake that you're not given the kid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So why not?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, did you not hear your son on the computer in the middle of the night?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, especially when you're dialing up to the internet in your, do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he turns around and says, and by the way, yes, I am still a version.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that anyone who doesn't remember what dial up modem sound like, let me give you a visual here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Imagine the sounds of two radio antennas having really loud nasty sex.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty much what it sounds like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Imagine the radio static.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hot and heavy, two different tones over on top of each other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: These switch positions every now and then it's loving.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have a cigarette that's basically what the hell it mode of sounded like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, and only that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing to like this, if you have a landline phone and you're not getting through, your song's on the internet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless he has like his own private line.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, if your son got you $45,000 through hacking, you are not getting your son the private line.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyone who's everyone knows, like, all you had to do was pick up the phone to make a phone call and all of a sudden you would knock the other person off the internet because you've interrupted that signal so does Lauren not use the phone during the day and there's another thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder who the hell she's talking to because oh yeah, he's been on that damn internet internet computer all day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she wants out making that crack joke about yeah, you know, do you like girls don't you I'm like what when did you start becoming one of those high schoolers in 12th grade making fun of freshman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for not having a girlfriend because she's been on the internet all day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like very different and the change of how her character was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, it's almost an adversarial relationship between the two, like, yeah, it's her son, but I'm pretty darn skipping that,

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's why like a love hate relationship, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're my son.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to love you no matter what, but a whole crap kid to piss me off and you're still at 45k.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now my other question is this, what did you think of meeting all the characters?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, they're going to be being introduced to just as, you know, date is actually being introduced as characters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then also two, they just present themselves as hackers to date as if he's also a hacker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is like an ABC family special for hackers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I, I get right, I took a look at this film and I was having little moments of remembrance to pump up the volume.

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[SPEAKER_02]: where now admittedly, date is way more unreasonably overconfident in his own personality and self as opposed to what Christians later was doing in the volume, but I mean like here you have like people who feel like they're on the cutting edge of cool, like they're their rebels, they are against the grain, they're against the damn the man hacked the planet, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So obviously this is the kind of status.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And as we eventually see their clubhouse a little bit later on, like this is a, this is a point of pride for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not actually surprised that these people are all like, oh, yeah, I'm a hacker, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, everyone dresses like they're in some weird futuristic dystopian, you know, skateboarding nightmare.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I would I would actually pressure the early 2000s and 95 would be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that being 1995.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I would actually, if you would put this in 1995 and say this is the year 2000 and this is the way that kids in from 2000 would press it would make more sense to set it in 2000 versus it being a 99 and set in present day, 95 there were in jumpsuits like we're in like back to the future too and fifth 10 is going to start showing up somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, just look at what Joey wears.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like he's wearing a damn picnic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of those old picnic tablecloths that we would have at our grandmother's house.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the 80s, that's what it looks like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't blame his friend asking him that his mom dressed him that morning because it does look like his mom dressed him that morning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, although funny thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the woman who actually does play Joey's mom in this

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not, I didn't know that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I kind of like that little aspect of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like it's the only film she's ever done too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She probably was like, you know what this film only made 7.6 million at the box office.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm done with my acting career now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, so what will we meet?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Ramon, now Phantom Freak, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I like that introduction.

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[SPEAKER_02]: same thing with Joey right it's a it's very much a you know outsiders kind of find each other kind of thing you know and obviously day kind of he dresses the dress he kind of walks the walk a little bit so clearly it's one of those things where it's almost like a flag and you see some of the classroom scenes like the hackers are all dressed in these like cool avant-garde I feel like I'm about to jump out of a parachute just with the backpack

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[SPEAKER_02]: exactly where is everyone else is dressing like a normal 90s teenager, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's almost like the clothes that they would choose to wear is almost like they're raising a flag to find their hacker brother, which is kind of cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, Kate does a little bit of the same thing, but she's obviously a little bit more dialed back from the, from the over-doneness of it,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she executes all cool as where zero cool is just way too overconfident.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, the really the only person who's introduction was really thrust upon us with no warning whatsoever is Matthew Lillard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right because I was not prepared for Matthew Lillard like I like the introduction to Joey I need an earliest name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need an earliest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no earliest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you also have with his the freak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also like how he introduces Dade as I'm the freak, you know, the pen the freak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like as if he like he gets around, you know, and if I read all the hackers around

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, it's just, that's the, don't you know who I am kind of moment?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I do, is we'd like the name crash over right better than zero cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Crash override sounds a whole lot cooler to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like zero cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it sounds like an emo kid that was like, you know what, I think that's trying to make an AOL name in the 90s or and it's like, I think I'm going to be zero cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like crash over right actually sounds like a really wicked looking transformer that you want to get right as a burn is definitely the coolest transfer you want to get serial killer is basically a garbage pale kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely I would actually pick up what I would definitely pick a transformer out of it was like crash override because it was one of those transformers that can pack and gaining kind of system exactly when I would want the the comp you bought that the comp you drawn right the technobots yes there you go

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I geeked out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I geeked out a little bit too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do like the, I'll leave all of these classroom scenes where, you know, we're not prepared for Matthew Lillard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at all, especially when he sneaks into one of the other classrooms that date goes into because remember he tells Angeline Jolie's character, Libby, he's like, you should get, you guys, so you mean to tell me, I don't have any classes with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go snow, go snow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he goes into this other classroom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and everybody's writing poor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the idea is of this class.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like a bunch of gibberish all over the chalkboard, and it's like everyone has their own philosophy that they're going to put on the board.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's Matthew Lillard, quoting Aussie Osborne of all the things I remember that those are the things I lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm paraphrasing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember the actual quote.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's Aussie Osborne and the teacher's like, you're in my class, but he's not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if the Simon is right a random quote on the board from memory.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm probably going to go grab some song lyrics as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm kind of with the serial killer on this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually like the idea here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I'm picked around a little bit with them about these kids writing shippers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I like the fact that they're expressing what they love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would actually be one of those kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would think if they're being quoting Aussie Osborn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be with value best reload.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll probably wind up quoting Aussie on the board.

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[SPEAKER_02]: who hasn't heard a song, it's got a lyric that just for whatever reason speaks to them and sticks in their brain because it hits them on some kind of level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, maybe Aussies, you know, an obvious choice in 1995 because I think that was after or shortly around the time where no more tears had come out because that was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Might have even been around the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why not put it african layer that that is the most teenager thing you can do like dude He didn't even do like Navana with because don't forget we actually see a Navana poster in the background of Dades house So he could have actually incorporated the Kirk O'Bane earlier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He winds up dying But still you can actually do it a year later and You know still play into the whole entire smells like teen spirit or come as you are

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[SPEAKER_01]: to make it more relatable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Aussies relatable too is just, you know, with the grunge music and the vibe that they're going for, I would actually went for soundgarden, I would have went for one of the grunge errors at that time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, got Allison chains.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but I do like how Matthew Lilith's character is like, Oh, this is not what's up class and why's I'm ducking on the class and he leaves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I definitely love seeing Matthew Lilith on in this movie every single time when I see him, I'm always geeked out wondering what he's going to do next.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will say, though, then, you know, because we were talking about how, you know, the hackers kind of dressed the part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's almost like raising a flag.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The 90s were subtle like a sledgehammer when it came to their costume design and trying to portray people like, like, forget subtly, you know, forget dialogue.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to dress the part and everyone's going to see you come in like 10 miles away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: definitely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, here's another thing though, too, that I wanted to mention was like him playing a musical sting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's actually a perfect name for Matthew Lillard's character because he does look like an man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It actually fits him to a T. And then you also have the the other thing with Angel Angel Angel Lillian Dade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, well, where's the swimming pool?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, it's upstairs and then he winds up getting drenched and rain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And okay, I got this, he decides to hack the computer system and cause the fires sprinklers to go off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he is just walking around with the umbrella.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, your computer lab is going to get fried.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not his computer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope, not his computer, not his problem.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the thing is, I like this set up of this, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It shows what date is able to do when motivated, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was motivated for a little bit of revenge.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was motivated to get back at the girl that we know he likes, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, in a very smart way, and I love the fact that the fandom freak kind of sees this whole setting off the sprinkler thing as like, all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you're in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're too, too, boy, you're elite, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the biggest thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the highest level like you're elite for someone who say that they are elite.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we hear that at the end of the film, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the minute you say someone's elite, that's almost like the highest praise that these hackers can possibly have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, and that's the highest ranking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's automatically in, and they don't need to go on ahead and do any kind of special initiation or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's automatically, and he's got the VIP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yes, just to go through everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do want, this is not something that liked was the fact that, you know, the little get together with the little play, you know what I'm talking about, like the little hangout place that they have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the fact that it's actually a place that they can go to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and who's paying for this place though, what's that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's paying for this place?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The city.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure someone probably hacked the hack the city records and basically gave it like a one dollar lease kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just wondering at one point too, because this looks like every single like 80s, 90s film were like, you know, the these castaways and whatnot or right in this little club house is where like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: because I got teenage winter to turtle vibes from this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, this is a place that I would wanna go to as a teenager.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, you have Matthew, you have Matthew Lillard, selling bootlegs, art is vomiting on themselves and dying and selling bootlegs of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you also go inside the place and then there's actually a hacker, a channel that people can watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you also have the report tape recorder

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[SPEAKER_01]: get your chains back from the pay phone, which now is no longer available to us anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there goes that idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That time, that would be the most elite thing that you can do as a hacker is get your money back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now you might be able to get your coke money back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, it doesn't think in reading up on this film.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like these were actually things that hackers had done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like all of these little tricks and things where it's like, it's researched.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if it's in there that a hacker has done it, that's because someone has done it in real life was able to spoof the system back in the day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, we'll get to the scene where they come in to try to beat acid burns high score, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: this is where we get into these crazy internet, you know, at least 1995 computer visuals of like, you know, all these things floating around in all the cast that were just like, oh my God, you are so 90s.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm having major lawnmower band vibes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got that too though because this is actually how we would think in the 90s what these with the games would look like virtually, even though it's not virtually, but it has that 3D effect of what we think that it would be and it's so dated now looking at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at that time though, it's so cool to see because of the fact that, you know, it's futuristic, it has a cyber punk kind of feel to it, is that those kind of vibes and it fits in with the narrative of what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, enemy for life there, but I mean, that's the thing, like the the concept of what the quote unquote, you know, information super highway was going to actually look like to envision it, which is why I mentioned the beginning of the show right where it's like the idea of showing a hacker in their element.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In reality, it's probably the most boring thing possible, low lighting CRT tube monitor and tons of empty Coke and Jolt Cola cans lying around, but I mean, that's because the understanding of how to make the internet look cool in the 90s was was a little skewed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you'll remember the the Microsoft Windows 95 video guide.

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[SPEAKER_02]: with Matthew Perry in Jennifer Anderson, because just talked about the internet and what not in Windows, they would throw everything at you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Lundmore, man, is by today's standards, an absolute CGI nightmare.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm not saying this film is like borderline Transformers Beast Wars kind of thing, but it's kind of almost there as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, this could be a, you know, what though,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would believe you because this is the first thing to a sci-fi movie that you can get because of how futuristic it is now as much cyberpunk it looks and also with the lawnmower man vibes too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can definitely feel feel that as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you go back and take a look at the openings of shows like the real world, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where everything was this real glitchy, you know, very hyper, oh, you know, sensory overload kind of television openings and whatnot netting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This fits right into the pocket.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you grew up in that era, then you're kind of accustomed to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly and that's where that's how I feel about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that we're accustomed to this era of these hackers and what they're doing and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're absolutely right though, it would be like a very boring life to someone that's outside of the hacking and everything too because of the fact that you know they'll be jacked up on Mountain Dew because I can picture a hacker on Mountain Dew and caffeine pills.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Trying to stay up all night, trying to get data, trying to hack stuff is very boring job to somebody that doesn't know a computer, but to someone that's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what they're passionate about and in the fact that they can even recite all the books that they threw at him is like, what's this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's red book of death.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what's this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's that that's done it out of that and it's just amazing how much they know and how they are able to just get all their information from these books like they can actually pull it out of but Barnes and Noble.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And these are the bibles to the hacker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it makes sense that if you are elite, you don't need to scroll through it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can just take a look at the cover and go, I know exactly what that is and I don't need to read it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, and you don't even have to go into the index.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can just turn to the middle of the book and there it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you need to, but if you're a pro hacker or a lead hacker, you don't need it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I also like the different passwords that hackers use, love, God, sex,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I like that aspect of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now we're getting into the fact that Joey's out to prove his skills.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He breaks into a Gibson and remember, he was actually uh, bragging about the fact that he hacked into a bank out in Idaho.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was data from his home, which is easier for him to get arrested for doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to get caught, doing what he's about to do now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way around it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Joey guys out to prove his skills breaks into a gifts and super computer owned by Elixine mineral corporation while he's downloading a garbage file as proof not the band garbage by the way as proof For his feet his mother disconnects his computer leaving him with a fragment file his instruction has been noticed and brought to the attention of the computer security officer Eugene the plague Delford and former hacker plague

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[SPEAKER_01]: realizes the garbage file being downloaded as a worm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He himself is interested if defraught, I was in claiming the file to be the code of the Da Vinci computer virus, though it kept size the company's oil tanker fleet and pretending the hackers are to blame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And list the U.S. secret services to recover the file in fact plague and insert the Da Vinci virus

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have a lot going on with this one scene, but I do like how we go into this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, we how you're doing crossing state lines, very illegal, yep, very illegal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, but remember this, it's not illegal until you get caught, and that's exactly what Joey did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, remember that Gomez, okay?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's only if you get caught.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what I have to say is this I do like how we're inside the computer mean frame inside their systems and it has these X's and why I do like the 3D effect of that because of the fact of how sci-fi and looks is still looks cyber yeah it has and also do this is the matrix before the matrix right so it has that matrix 5 to it as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a very different style on the way they do it for the programming and the numbers and letters and stuff that they corresponds with computer language, but I think it fits in with 1995 really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, the idea that all these oil shipping ships are out there and everything is connected via the internet because of course everything is being tracked one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All of that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you could conceivably hack a ship in order to be able to adjust the ballast and have the ships kill over a side for the fact that you're losing a, you know, a ton of money for the company.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is an environmental crime, like for reals, like if these are oil tankers and I don't know if they're well covered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're messing with the government here right away above your pay scale on this one, Joey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, also let that let's bring it back here, Mr.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Plague.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you are, this is the whole idea of the, you know, I'm going to quote demolition man here because it's courses demolition man, right, you know, don't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bremen, you have to go to Mediac, you know, so it's like, exactly what they've done here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it's like, very cliche.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to bring in this hacker kind of thing is this now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they know that he's a hacker, but clearly he's a computer genius.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's kind of infiltrated himself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's make a story about Eugene from it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's time magazine artists of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the best computer wizard in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just happen to seem on the cover of time magazines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what, we need to pay Eugene here about five geez to go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and get these hackers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's make up that origin story of the fact that maybe they might just seem to run on time magazine or maybe one of those other computer magazines from the 90s.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the title is Hactus.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hackedivist at that point, yes, but also, can we talk about special agent Richard Gill for a second here?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Special agent has reached a certain level in the, okay, secret service agent, okay?

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[SPEAKER_02]: not taking orders from the plaque.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know which is better the keyboard of the mallet, but I mean, like, also, when you eventually went when the play kind of confronts, uh, uh, date.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to leave this guy in the room alone with a potential suspect and banging things up and all that and not come in with your gun drawn like sorry agent kill find a new job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is bad at his job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a crappy agent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're right, he goes over to Dates Place, Eugene does, and so does special, special agent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he tells him, okay guys, you know what, let's talk, I know him because I guess what, I'm actually, I'm actually part of this whole entire thing too, where

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know about computers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He knows about computers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's bond like my father-in-son, hacker to hacker, and maybe I can get some information out of him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he wants to be excusing on, so they might have to be giving him some time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dave, the Eugene's over there banging shit up, wrecking Dave's house, you would think that the agent would actually wonder what's going on is dating him fighting what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, he just gets away with the fact he just destroyed someone's house and also to how did you wind up coming to the conclusion that there was nothing on his hard drive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You would have to do a clean sweep of that whole entire thing and confiscate the whole thing like it's Tony soprano sense computer and see what's on the computer again movie subtle like hammer and now you know this is me as an adult watching it with modern day eyes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have to ask right because obviously this was my first I'm watching the film.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am you know really trying to wrap my head around the evening and that's a lot of new characters to introduce.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're in the board room.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're figuring out this whole adventure virus and the shipping companies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Potentially dealing with all the the ships that could be overturned through hackers and this virus and all that and there's Lorraine Broko What is she doing there who is she why is she there I I get as we learn later that her and Eugene are Copicetic they're they're in on it together with an inside job.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the one who created the defensive virus.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry spoilers, but like you have all these

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, very important looking business people there and they're all word and then the camera pans over and there's Lorraine Brockleck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who the fuck are you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where did you come from?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Why are you here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, I thought it was someone that works within the company herself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking that she might have been part of this company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And no, she is not a, she's not part of the company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not part of anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's part of, you know what, she might be using secretary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it looks like from the, from my perspective.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No introduction whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I would have understood if she was like the head of the company and she was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, but that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have this virus that apparently can infect the ships in order to cause them to tip over, but really the virus in itself is just kind of like this skimming tool that is squirling away money and dumping it into offshore accounts, but this is the part that's complicated about the move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If this teenager is dumping money into offshore accounts,

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[SPEAKER_01]: This kid don't have Jack shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at his, you know, he had money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His mom and him would be living in a big apartment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He listen on a bunk bed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you mean, tell me, this kid is the person that you're gonna pin it off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, but also, again, this falls under the, if just one person had done their job, this movie wouldn't exist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you know that the ships are connected to their servers through the internet, disconnect the ships from the internet.

52:40.400 --> 52:43.784
[SPEAKER_02]: Or, right, it is a boat water.

52:44.044 --> 52:46.086
[SPEAKER_02]: You have a general idea of where they're going to go.

52:46.747 --> 52:50.191
[SPEAKER_02]: And before the internet, the boats knew exactly where they were going to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So unplug them and make the sailors sail.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, do what they're supposed to be doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is also, okay, this was a modern time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Guess what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those ships will be controlled by Wi-Fi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the sailors are not doing their job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just in case the computers go down, I'm malfunctioned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you could imagine if you go into training and there's no training, they just put your ass on a ship and say good luck, Sailor and then it's like, oh, now there's a computer now there's a computer hack or that's hack and we're going to have to unplug the computer and then you guys have to manually do this yourselves.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

53:34.837 --> 53:49.960
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, protocol would state that you would have a full crew on the ship, just in case you lost your satellite signal in order to be able to steer the ship and not get stuck in the middle of fricking an aware and crashing new Antarctica, that's you're going to have a crew on the ship.

53:50.360 --> 53:56.922
[SPEAKER_02]: So just, I don't know, disconnect the satellite connection and let the crew do what they do and movies over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Roll credits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

53:59.182 --> 54:02.003
[SPEAKER_01]: Only, and maybe 15, 15 minute movie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we still have to get dating kid together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we still got another good 20 minutes or so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so then it's just because a rom-com got it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A hacking rom-com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a scary thought.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hacking my heart with dating Kate.

54:20.864 --> 54:39.292
[SPEAKER_01]: coming soon to what they hear you this summer, but I do like the other thing with the Amazon, I'll put the super computer and he's like, God wouldn't be up this late and here comes Eugene and his little skateboard skating over to the Amazon super computer and there's the

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they wind up tracking Joey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, and then Joey is a, then Joey's also having nightmares that he's going to get arrested and shorten up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was up, can you rest that same day?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, is everyone have weird dreams in this film?

54:57.818 --> 54:59.399
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's having weird dreams.

54:59.939 --> 55:02.960
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're a hacker, this is the dreams that you're going to have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have a dream about your crush and then you and leather that she got from Spencer's and then then for that you're going to have to be dreaming about the fact that you got caught.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is weird on that on that high curse of the worst dreams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really do it makes you know I want to be a hacker after that.

55:22.322 --> 55:24.063
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, not sell in the job here.

55:26.160 --> 55:32.485
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, so what does it drop a whatever the whatever, um, someone pays me maybe about 50 G. So okay cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But dream suck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What dreams.

55:36.328 --> 55:38.830
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's see, I had dream about my crush.

55:38.850 --> 55:44.154
[SPEAKER_01]: I had, and then I found out that she wanted to dress me up in drag and leather.

55:44.875 --> 55:45.796
[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now I'm not going to do that.

55:49.137 --> 55:53.341
[SPEAKER_02]: The dreams started okay and my door opened and there was Angelina Jolie and she wanted to make it with me.

55:53.721 --> 55:58.365
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we did and then all of my door opened and there was Fisher Stevens and I was afraid that he wanted to make it with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what as a teenager you would think that was actually Angelina Jolie and it does this body switch?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Jen said there's still handcuffs involved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now Joe he's arrested in this computer research, but he had hidden the disk containing the file, dating Kate make a bet that with date choosing a date with Kate man, that rhymes should he win and Kate having date.

56:29.142 --> 56:31.604
[SPEAKER_01]: be her slave if she prevails.

56:31.944 --> 56:37.549
[SPEAKER_01]: The hacking duel is a harassed secret service agent Richard Gill, who was involved in Joey's arrest.

56:38.109 --> 56:47.596
[SPEAKER_01]: After various hacks and including canceling Gill's credit cards, fabricating a criminal wreck, changing his payroll status to disease to dual remain a time.

56:48.077 --> 56:53.221
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have that going on, then you also have Joey gets arrested.

56:53.581 --> 56:55.803
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're decided, okay, well, guess what, guys?

56:56.303 --> 57:04.350
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go ahead and try to figure out a way for Kate and date date to date now after she wants to have been the garbage file.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like, ah, Joey's in the slamer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get it on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hacker style.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is literally like, you know, freaking Brooklyn, 99.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, Joey's in jail.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a very good hacker anyway.

57:25.540 --> 57:26.921
[SPEAKER_02]: I had to get my date with Santiago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we funny those like if, uh, Matthew Willis, Cracker, was like, you know what, I told him that he would get arrested.

57:35.730 --> 57:39.573
[SPEAKER_01]: That dude sucked and then just starts rifting on something else.

57:39.833 --> 57:43.037
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah, serial killer has thoughts.

57:45.956 --> 58:06.883
[SPEAKER_02]: But the thing is, so you dropped the whole raisin debt, the idea of this virus and this company, and these are the guys that were able to track him down after whatever joy finds the all the mathematical formulas thrown up onto the screen in some weird garbage file kind of thing because that's exactly where I would look for whatever.

58:07.383 --> 58:12.064
[SPEAKER_02]: But still, and then it's like, okay cool, we've set all this up, this is the intrigue,

58:15.305 --> 58:28.334
[SPEAKER_01]: back over to date and k because that's what matters most and I hear something there's no chemistry between date and k anyways to establish that you know that they want that there there's a need for this to happen.

58:29.034 --> 58:29.414
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

58:29.895 --> 58:32.136
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's so weird to realize that they married afterwards.

58:33.017 --> 58:34.858
[SPEAKER_01]: And last is only like 24 hours.

58:35.739 --> 58:37.400
[SPEAKER_02]: Hollywood speed that's that's pretty good.

58:37.920 --> 58:39.321
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's pretty good standard.

58:39.961 --> 58:42.843
[SPEAKER_01]: But I also like whenever we get into where they need

58:44.735 --> 58:45.235
[SPEAKER_01]: Tintin.

58:45.936 --> 58:49.559
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm calling him because I've got his character's name is Lord Nikon.

58:50.079 --> 58:50.519
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

58:50.739 --> 58:56.263
[SPEAKER_01]: That actually sounds like a badass name, though, too, for the totally be a transformer that changes into a camera.

58:56.944 --> 59:07.952
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and have like a hood over, but you know what though I'd like this whole entire deal of like we ever we're wondering why.

59:09.127 --> 59:11.708
[SPEAKER_01]: Matthew, a little character is always one is crack.

59:11.748 --> 59:12.328
[SPEAKER_01]: It goes, hey, man.

59:12.368 --> 59:13.089
[SPEAKER_01]: Can I crash with you?

59:13.529 --> 59:15.189
[SPEAKER_01]: And then days like, let's just deal goes.

59:15.770 --> 59:19.091
[SPEAKER_01]: His parents missed out on what made him miss out on Woodstock and he was a kid.

59:19.851 --> 59:21.692
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's trying to pay them back.

59:22.872 --> 59:28.114
[SPEAKER_02]: Which Woodstock wouldn't be 69 like so you missed Woodstock 1994.

59:28.134 --> 59:28.354
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well.

59:30.743 --> 59:33.606
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay, so that's not the best bad thing.

59:33.626 --> 59:35.589
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you still got limpipsa coming up in 99.

59:35.609 --> 59:37.411
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and we're not killing that person.

59:37.631 --> 59:50.305
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

59:50.525 --> 59:53.367
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember watching the, the totally sidebar in here.

59:53.707 --> 01:00:10.317
[SPEAKER_02]: I told you remember watching like the, the, the live streams from Woodstock 99 on much music, because they had camera camera people there and they were doing live hits from Woodstock 99 and then they showed music videos and they go, and then after, at some point it went from music programming to live breaking news on much music.

01:00:13.828 --> 01:00:16.909
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, because all the riots, you know, that was going on.

01:00:17.609 --> 01:00:26.071
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you didn't expect that in a music festival in 99 to be that chaotic, especially with the rain and then and everything going on.

01:00:26.791 --> 01:00:30.472
[SPEAKER_01]: But going back over to this with the on when Caden

01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:40.481
[SPEAKER_01]: I do like the harassing that they do to him.

01:00:40.501 --> 01:00:41.582
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do like the actor.

01:00:41.642 --> 01:00:46.944
[SPEAKER_01]: He played in suits in Brandy and I ended up benching that and he's a great actor.

01:00:47.365 --> 01:00:48.045
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:00:48.445 --> 01:00:52.808
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do like what they made him to seize.

01:00:53.208 --> 01:00:54.729
[SPEAKER_01]: Exynated all his credit cards.

01:00:55.049 --> 01:01:04.294
[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, though, that goes to show you how bad the FBI is in the 90s to where it's so easily for an FBI agent to get hacked.

01:01:05.263 --> 01:01:13.488
[SPEAKER_02]: if they have completely buried any credibility out of secret service agent Richard Gill.

01:01:13.629 --> 01:01:16.731
[SPEAKER_01]: Like turning your badge and gun, you're useless.

01:01:17.291 --> 01:01:19.112
[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, he sucks at his job.

01:01:19.532 --> 01:01:22.094
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't keep a very good security with him.

01:01:22.714 --> 01:01:26.577
[SPEAKER_01]: He also goes and sees Eugene, who's playing a VR game.

01:01:27.397 --> 01:01:29.179
[SPEAKER_01]: And he acts like this is his boss.

01:01:30.097 --> 01:01:31.617
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what are you doing?

01:01:32.398 --> 01:01:33.158
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make sense.

01:01:33.258 --> 01:01:38.740
[SPEAKER_01]: It still does not make sense to me on why you're pivoting to him all the time for information.

01:01:38.780 --> 01:01:42.141
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I get the fact that he's a great hack.

01:01:42.521 --> 01:01:46.922
[SPEAKER_01]: He's good at what he does, but come on, there has to be someone within that agency.

01:01:47.806 --> 01:01:50.249
[SPEAKER_01]: that knows it, stuff about hacking or about computers.

01:01:50.809 --> 01:01:57.777
[SPEAKER_02]: But also, he's listed as secret service agent, which leads one to believe that they are on presidential detail.

01:01:58.598 --> 01:02:02.263
[SPEAKER_02]: And last, I checked the plague is not the president.

01:02:03.024 --> 01:02:08.350
[SPEAKER_02]: So FBI, sure, FCC, definitely secret service.

01:02:09.621 --> 01:02:12.523
[SPEAKER_02]: you're in the wrong jurisdiction, no wonder you're bad at your job.

01:02:13.004 --> 01:02:15.045
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, he doesn't know which one he is.

01:02:15.386 --> 01:02:18.768
[SPEAKER_01]: Like on a Monday he might actually be secret service on on a Tuesday.

01:02:18.828 --> 01:02:19.709
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a different story.

01:02:20.230 --> 01:02:20.390
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

01:02:20.470 --> 01:02:21.551
[SPEAKER_01]: He wears different hats.

01:02:21.971 --> 01:02:22.732
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:02:23.332 --> 01:02:25.574
[SPEAKER_02]: Wednesdays I go down to the Postal Service thing.

01:02:25.594 --> 01:02:26.415
[SPEAKER_02]: He needs to knock down there.

01:02:26.435 --> 01:02:27.175
[SPEAKER_02]: The short staffed.

01:02:28.196 --> 01:02:28.776
[SPEAKER_02]: I drive an Ultra.

01:02:28.796 --> 01:02:31.378
[SPEAKER_01]: He's delivering mail at this point on Wednesdays.

01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:34.401
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, he sucks.

01:02:34.981 --> 01:02:35.442
[SPEAKER_01]: But.

01:02:36.455 --> 01:02:49.279
[SPEAKER_01]: I then after that, the least on bail, Joey reveals the disk to freak who has arrested the next day and informs Kate, the disk is hidden in the bathroom as school at that special place that he went to at that one time.

01:02:49.299 --> 01:02:50.059
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what he did.

01:02:50.479 --> 01:02:58.301
[SPEAKER_01]: Dave refuses to help Kate in in serial killer as he has a record and by copies the disk so they can, so they have an

01:03:04.978 --> 01:03:09.761
[SPEAKER_01]: will a plague sends him a powerful laptop with a request that he joined him.

01:03:10.201 --> 01:03:18.166
[SPEAKER_01]: He later threatens to have dates mother incarcerated, but they manufacture a criminal record forcing day to deliver the copy of the disk.

01:03:18.707 --> 01:03:28.493
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, first of all, even if you have a powerful computer, you still need to plug a phone line into the computer to make it dial up.

01:03:29.312 --> 01:03:36.493
[SPEAKER_01]: Then the computer is then also to it's like sky whenever it was first developed, you know.

01:03:37.965 --> 01:03:44.728
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, uh, some of the graphics are definitely, um, yeah, they're just a bit, right?

01:03:45.089 --> 01:03:46.689
[SPEAKER_02]: But I, there's something to be said it.

01:03:46.789 --> 01:03:49.931
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, you don't want to take a look at this film and kind of compare it to today's graphics.

01:03:49.971 --> 01:03:51.372
[SPEAKER_02]: I get that, that's all fine.

01:03:51.772 --> 01:04:00.576
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's something to be said about going back and watching a film from that era and taking a look at what the imagination thought it should actually look like.

01:04:00.616 --> 01:04:01.317
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is

01:04:02.157 --> 01:04:05.839
[SPEAKER_02]: probably the more fascinating aspect of it because we really didn't know.

01:04:05.939 --> 01:04:09.161
[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't know what the internet actually looked like all we did.

01:04:09.181 --> 01:04:17.206
[SPEAKER_02]: We was just sat down, we clicked on our keyboard and we burned our eyeballs on the CRT monitors of the day.

01:04:18.687 --> 01:04:28.073
[SPEAKER_02]: But the idea of data going back and forth and through your phone mind, magically bringing all this information from around the world, it's a fascinating concept

01:04:31.975 --> 01:04:33.577
[SPEAKER_02]: it kind of does make sense.

01:04:33.957 --> 01:04:39.902
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think many movies do it that well because it's all up to interpretation.

01:04:39.962 --> 01:04:46.867
[SPEAKER_02]: This was what I don't think actually did all the cyber spacing very well because really it's just a bunch of like

01:04:48.549 --> 01:04:54.376
[SPEAKER_02]: Windows, screensaver kind of explosions and mathematical formulas flying through the air.

01:04:55.337 --> 01:04:57.560
[SPEAKER_02]: And okay, I get it.

01:04:57.960 --> 01:05:03.006
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know what you're actually trying to show because it wouldn't be mathematical formulas.

01:05:03.366 --> 01:05:05.669
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be everything in binary.

01:05:06.410 --> 01:05:07.972
[SPEAKER_02]: At least the matrix got that right.

01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:19.969
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and also to at least the matrix looked like whatever's supposed to look like yes, it's not look like what it's supposed to look like even for 1995 and don't get me wrong.

01:05:19.989 --> 01:05:33.441
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that technology changed three years later, because then everybody was panicking about the why to k-bug and 99, but in 1995, it was the questions of what could with the internet be like,

01:05:33.881 --> 01:05:36.622
[SPEAKER_01]: and it's nothing to what we imagine it is.

01:05:37.042 --> 01:05:39.842
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it all looks like a Windows media player visualizer.

01:05:40.542 --> 01:05:40.782
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:05:40.982 --> 01:05:51.604
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're in this virtual world without a virtual helmet looking at these letters and numbers that looks like it's coming at you, but really is just on the screen.

01:05:52.404 --> 01:05:53.385
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:05:53.405 --> 01:05:56.285
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of like how you look at a PS1 game and think it,

01:06:02.501 --> 01:06:04.183
[SPEAKER_02]: but the game play was always good.

01:06:04.784 --> 01:06:07.729
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree, just Metal Gear Solid was my jam.

01:06:08.450 --> 01:06:12.377
[SPEAKER_02]: Front Mission 3, my favorite game of all time, it was an old school PS1 game.

01:06:13.060 --> 01:06:13.400
[SPEAKER_01]: nice.

01:06:14.260 --> 01:06:22.762
[SPEAKER_01]: But then you had the freak who had the dream about him getting arrested and he was all told deja vu and then he makes the one phone call.

01:06:22.842 --> 01:06:30.284
[SPEAKER_01]: Hacks the, you know, the police stations phones to make a collect call to Kate.

01:06:30.584 --> 01:06:37.346
[SPEAKER_01]: It says, hey, remember that one place that I'd let I love that disc at that one place where I ended up sticking my ding ding dong in or something like that.

01:06:38.146 --> 01:06:42.647
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, okay, and she just goes into the mince bathroom without a problem.

01:06:43.487 --> 01:06:45.368
[SPEAKER_01]: And then comes out with the disc.

01:06:46.248 --> 01:06:47.248
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll give them this.

01:06:48.009 --> 01:06:54.731
[SPEAKER_02]: Every time they put Kate on screen, they put her in a way and they made her act in a way that really kind of exuded cool.

01:06:54.771 --> 01:06:59.953
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think this is a film that really kind of catapulted Angel is jolly into that.

01:07:00.673 --> 01:07:02.435
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.

01:07:02.455 --> 01:07:04.017
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't even just a sex appeal to.

01:07:04.077 --> 01:07:08.321
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, it was the confidence that Jake suited on screen, right?

01:07:08.702 --> 01:07:13.807
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, she gets the disconnect and just kind of look at everyone, you know, all the guys in the different locker room.

01:07:14.047 --> 01:07:14.908
[SPEAKER_02]: So he just walks over.

01:07:14.928 --> 01:07:20.554
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the condom machine takes one out and walks away with a little twirl on her way out.

01:07:20.574 --> 01:07:23.016
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that is all on her face.

01:07:23.817 --> 01:07:36.550
[SPEAKER_02]: And pretty much, yeah, it's very much that that just self-confidence and the owning the scene every single time, it's no wonder that Angelina Jolie became the star that she did.

01:07:37.620 --> 01:07:44.087
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can definitely see that though, because not just with the sex appeal, like you said, it's just that smoothness about Kate.

01:07:44.668 --> 01:07:54.639
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like how she just casually goes into the men's room without no problem, like she's done this every single day to get connoes for a douchebag that she doesn't want to be next to when she's hacking another computer or anything.

01:07:55.468 --> 01:08:15.000
[SPEAKER_01]: And she gets a condom out and smiles walks out and I do like that whole entire thing of that confidence with her, you know, because I don't think anyone during that time could play that role like Angel Angel League could not just a sex appeal, but also the confidence of like I can go into this men's bathroom take a little condom.

01:08:16.001 --> 01:08:18.202
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll the machine and walk away like it was nothing.

01:08:18.887 --> 01:08:22.030
[SPEAKER_02]: But also, she had the look as well, right?

01:08:22.430 --> 01:08:37.804
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that that pixie cut, like the, the, the mysterious eyes, like the big pouty lips and all that, like she had the look that she would be kind of on the, on the fringe of the law, if you will.

01:08:39.145 --> 01:08:41.287
[SPEAKER_02]: She looked dangerous hot.

01:08:42.097 --> 01:08:42.577
[SPEAKER_01]: She did.

01:08:42.737 --> 01:08:48.400
[SPEAKER_01]: She was very spicy hot, like a Chinese hot hot sauce and you don't want to mess with.

01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:58.764
[SPEAKER_02]: But but the kind of girl was like, I want to go with you, but I know if I do that I'm probably going to end up in bar, you know, behind bars at some point in the night and it's going to be the most awesome night ever.

01:08:58.824 --> 01:08:59.624
[SPEAKER_02]: But let's go.

01:09:00.544 --> 01:09:01.905
[SPEAKER_01]: Right and screw the consequences.

01:09:02.105 --> 01:09:04.126
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if my mom is being blackmailed.

01:09:04.266 --> 01:09:08.968
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go on ahead and do this and then if that were my mom later.

01:09:10.733 --> 01:09:12.123
[SPEAKER_02]: She's worth the record.

01:09:13.320 --> 01:09:26.843
[SPEAKER_01]: And, okay, what do you think about Eugene telling Dave that if he doesn't comply, he's going to end up saying that she's going to be in position of cocaine and that she was arrested and I forgot what state it was.

01:09:27.263 --> 01:09:36.886
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, his mother up on potential charges, like basically taking her record and making her look like a multi-time film.

01:09:36.926 --> 01:09:37.646
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.

01:09:38.166 --> 01:09:39.106
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, I'll see you're

01:09:42.247 --> 01:09:57.874
[SPEAKER_02]: everything that Eugene does in trying to get date to his side just feels like he's trying so hard to be super cool with zero cool and it's just so sad and pathetic for the for this guy.

01:09:57.914 --> 01:09:58.894
[SPEAKER_01]: Just crash and burn.

01:09:59.795 --> 01:10:00.095
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:10:01.255 --> 01:10:02.076
[SPEAKER_01]: Over and over again.

01:10:02.536 --> 01:10:07.318
[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to be at that cool kids table with all the other hot topic kids and won't let him play.

01:10:07.338 --> 01:10:11.260
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was the uncool kid in the uncool group.

01:10:12.131 --> 01:10:13.191
[SPEAKER_01]: and the hot topic mall.

01:10:13.711 --> 01:10:13.971
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:10:14.291 --> 01:10:19.753
[SPEAKER_02]: So, so we decided to go and get all the business closed, so we could set himself apart from everything else.

01:10:20.173 --> 01:10:28.395
[SPEAKER_01]: But even the way he skateboards to go and get the disc from date after he winds up telling him, okay, kid, we just relax.

01:10:28.735 --> 01:10:30.715
[SPEAKER_01]: Your mom's, oh, going to be okay now.

01:10:31.455 --> 01:10:37.376
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he just skates like Marty my fly near the limo and takes the disc.

01:10:40.286 --> 01:10:43.373
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 90s love their skateboards and roller blades.

01:10:43.854 --> 01:10:47.583
[SPEAKER_01]: It just made me laugh though of like, okay, so you're rich, knob.

01:10:50.168 --> 01:11:01.939
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, who's car was it was it was it this agent gills car because if it was all right you Mr. Secret surface agent you you just drive the car.

01:11:02.299 --> 01:11:03.240
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna be out here.

01:11:03.260 --> 01:11:04.561
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna.

01:11:04.861 --> 01:11:16.091
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna get that disk and it's gonna look It's gonna love this Yes, I'm blackmailing him, but you know what date is gonna love me for this Yeah, you're seeing what's fucking awesome

01:11:16.673 --> 01:11:18.734
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, get those other agents there.

01:11:18.754 --> 01:11:21.816
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, get that Mark Anthony guy to start spraying all the smoke around.

01:11:22.096 --> 01:11:23.517
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it has to get through it.

01:11:23.797 --> 01:11:26.739
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just go right through the fog if they want to be on this day.

01:11:27.099 --> 01:11:28.180
[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be like a smooth criminal.

01:11:30.101 --> 01:11:38.426
[SPEAKER_02]: The only the only way they could make Eugene worse is if they put, oh God, the name is escaping me.

01:11:38.506 --> 01:11:38.887
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.

01:11:38.907 --> 01:11:41.068
[SPEAKER_02]: Why is his name was gave him me?

01:11:41.668 --> 01:11:44.470
[SPEAKER_02]: Guy who was in like death of a unicorn.

01:11:45.415 --> 01:11:46.336
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who you're talking about.

01:11:46.376 --> 01:11:46.736
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.

01:11:46.756 --> 01:11:46.877
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:11:46.897 --> 01:11:49.079
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, where's your tea grant?

01:11:49.099 --> 01:11:49.659
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it is.

01:11:49.719 --> 01:11:56.506
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but then after then he said he was going to change it back like it was nothing nothing even happened.

01:11:56.886 --> 01:12:02.191
[SPEAKER_01]: So here's the thing if you're going to try to pin this on someone to make it look like a criminal.

01:12:02.211 --> 01:12:03.933
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you going to change the shit back.

01:12:04.553 --> 01:12:06.435
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but also.

01:12:07.884 --> 01:12:10.386
[SPEAKER_02]: For the record date, I don't remember correctly.

01:12:10.426 --> 01:12:17.492
[SPEAKER_02]: Date never actually told any of his friends that they were putting the pressure on his mom's record.

01:12:17.532 --> 01:12:19.034
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why he did this.

01:12:19.434 --> 01:12:21.316
[SPEAKER_02]: He just said, well, I give them a copy of the disc.

01:12:22.156 --> 01:12:25.780
[SPEAKER_01]: He did say, though, he said, what was I supposed to do?

01:12:26.320 --> 01:12:29.903
[SPEAKER_01]: They were gonna go ahead and get my mom.

01:12:30.364 --> 01:12:31.525
[SPEAKER_01]: They were blackmailing my mom.

01:12:32.120 --> 01:12:35.561
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, but really after he says, I can't go to jail.

01:12:35.761 --> 01:12:39.161
[SPEAKER_02]: I just can't, like, you sound selfish.

01:12:39.181 --> 01:12:42.322
[SPEAKER_02]: And now, oh, it's your mom, okay, cool, whatever, right?

01:12:42.622 --> 01:12:46.883
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I mean, I mean, like the one of whom we mom and jail, but I can't go to jail.

01:12:46.943 --> 01:12:49.124
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, why can't you go to jail?

01:12:49.604 --> 01:12:52.404
[SPEAKER_01]: The one else was the one who did you when you did juvenile.

01:12:52.464 --> 01:12:55.785
[SPEAKER_01]: You, you ended up basically doing cost arrest without a computer.

01:12:56.504 --> 01:12:59.367
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but at that point they didn't know he was zero cool, right?

01:12:59.607 --> 01:13:05.212
[SPEAKER_02]: So at this point Joey's already in jail, the threatening is mom and everyone else couldn't because he had to go to jail.

01:13:05.232 --> 01:13:06.893
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I can't go to jail, man.

01:13:07.094 --> 01:13:07.314
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?

01:13:07.334 --> 01:13:09.356
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you're soft, right?

01:13:09.956 --> 01:13:12.258
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you going to be everyone's new friend in the prison?

01:13:12.559 --> 01:13:14.881
[SPEAKER_02]: No, tell them the truth.

01:13:14.901 --> 01:13:17.243
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell them who you really are because no one gives a damn about.

01:13:17.523 --> 01:13:20.747
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you'll rewrite like you're zero cool.

01:13:21.007 --> 01:13:26.574
[SPEAKER_02]: That's supposed to mean something in this world how you're not You said it's levy on tires.

01:13:26.674 --> 01:13:37.607
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, right because if you're everybody knows who zero cool is because you're legend You you're the youngest hacker Yeah, it's fired other hackers to do what you do

01:13:38.250 --> 01:13:54.142
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I understand not putting your zero cool name on the internet while you're hacking a TV station I get that, but I mean, if everyone is flying their freak flag, you know, by telling everyone who their their hacker names are except for Kate, you know, because it kind of gets dragged at her.

01:13:54.782 --> 01:14:02.228
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you would think that people are proud of their accomplishments and, you know, if bringing down 1,500 and 7 different computers in order

01:14:08.712 --> 01:14:16.654
[SPEAKER_02]: Why aren't you telling these people who you trust and the girl who you kind of really want to get together with Tell them the truth.

01:14:17.374 --> 01:14:22.896
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, but no, these 90 movies will make other kids having anxiety for no apparent reason.

01:14:23.336 --> 01:14:27.377
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, having It's like, okay, I just got to lie my ass off.

01:14:28.157 --> 01:14:29.897
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what that's what these 90s movies do.

01:14:37.918 --> 01:14:39.499
[SPEAKER_01]: it well, and also to his friends too.

01:14:40.380 --> 01:14:44.964
[SPEAKER_01]: So instead of just coming clean, they're just going to go and head and add extra anxiety to them.

01:14:45.624 --> 01:14:47.125
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's pretty much it.

01:14:48.086 --> 01:15:02.918
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, then you have Kate Lord Nixon, serial killer and Dave learned that the code is a worm designed to sell $25 million from Ellison transactions and that the DaVinci virus is set to capsize the oil tanker fleet the next day

01:15:06.233 --> 01:15:13.217
[SPEAKER_01]: Dave confesses that he gave, gave, play a copy of the disc and reels his hacking history as zero cool.

01:15:13.778 --> 01:15:15.218
[SPEAKER_01]: So we talked about that.

01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:19.921
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also like how all the other hackers are now kicked out of the fact that he is zero cool.

01:15:20.362 --> 01:15:25.184
[SPEAKER_01]: I like Lord Nixon, but I guess, this is zero cool man.

01:15:25.705 --> 01:15:28.627
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's like, he's like, starboard and he's a lead.

01:15:28.867 --> 01:15:29.867
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a lead.

01:15:30.188 --> 01:15:30.788
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a lead.

01:15:31.068 --> 01:15:51.057
[SPEAKER_02]: And then of course, you know, so zero cool is good to like rebuild this virus and all that and rebuild the garbage file, how I don't know, like, you know, start typing the zeros and ones to the cows come home meanwhile, you know, in this montage because much like other 80s and then he's films got to have a montage, you know, it's.

01:15:51.797 --> 01:15:54.079
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone else is doing everything but working on the computer.

01:15:54.119 --> 01:16:04.668
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, zero cool sit in there like the the computer zombie that he is magically running the for all we know he just put in some weird code made freaking contra.

01:16:05.529 --> 01:16:15.337
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's all he did and just one long code that doesn't mean shit gibberish and also to you know you're right though.

01:16:15.498 --> 01:16:19.201
[SPEAKER_01]: It just feels like he's supposed to be like this in all all no hacker

01:16:20.333 --> 01:16:26.980
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's going to and all his friends are just doing all the paperwork and the heavy lifting in here he is just on the computer, she's typing and that's it.

01:16:27.581 --> 01:16:43.097
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I at some point just put it up up down down left right left right be a go, you know, EDB sees yeah, yeah, so then we have dating Kate they seek out razor and blade, which I love.

01:16:44.036 --> 01:17:08.702
[SPEAKER_01]: Razor on Blade, even when we get first introduced to them on the TV for hacked a planet, a hacker themed TV show, Lord Nixon and serial killer learned that warns for their arrest are to be executed at 9.9 a.m. the next day, the next morning, date, Kate, Nixon, and serial killer, uh, serial role of Blade from Washington Square Park and beating the secret service by hacking the traffic lights, meeting up with Joey at some

01:17:14.083 --> 01:17:15.904
[SPEAKER_01]: troubles to hack the gifts in that first.

01:17:16.204 --> 01:17:21.627
[SPEAKER_01]: Their attempts are easily rebuffed by plague, who calls day to taunt him.

01:17:22.027 --> 01:17:31.492
[SPEAKER_01]: Razor and Blade have contacted hackers around the world who win their support and distract plague long enough for Joey to download the file.

01:17:32.233 --> 01:17:37.055
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a lot of taping going on in this whole section.

01:17:38.356 --> 01:17:40.177
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I also like how it's

01:17:41.049 --> 01:18:07.525
[SPEAKER_01]: I like razor and blades placed though because it has like a rage against the machine kind of feel to their whole their deal right it feels like they're against the system which is you know them hacking into different government systems so I like that idea of them playing that narrative and having a band that's there to rally the troops of these hackers and having stage dives and

01:18:10.348 --> 01:18:11.850
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what the music felt like.

01:18:12.230 --> 01:18:27.467
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the idea of the blatant razor show, like getting back to the early one, I was getting some major cowboy beep-op vibes, because of course they got that show that goes out just for the cowboys and all the bounties that are available.

01:18:27.927 --> 01:18:29.909
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is kind of in that same way.

01:18:29.929 --> 01:18:31.851
[SPEAKER_02]: We would also these are the guys that

01:18:32.512 --> 01:18:33.773
[SPEAKER_02]: have a media presence.

01:18:33.853 --> 01:18:42.897
[SPEAKER_02]: So even though they may not be the best hackers, they're the most known hackers, even though everyone says, oh, you're zero cool, you're elite, whatever.

01:18:43.458 --> 01:18:51.642
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but these are the two that actually have media attention to them, which clearly is what hackers want.

01:18:51.722 --> 01:18:53.063
[SPEAKER_02]: Why else would they do all these?

01:18:53.863 --> 01:18:55.263
[SPEAKER_02]: crazy out there things.

01:18:55.604 --> 01:19:08.468
[SPEAKER_02]: So the idea of them going to these very well-known hackers that clearly would have and in with all the other hackers worldwide because why wouldn't they try to get in with these two?

01:19:08.488 --> 01:19:19.331
[SPEAKER_02]: It kind of makes sense because if you're just a team of four at that point, because God knows who else is in prison, it's like, yeah, you're going to need help and you're

01:19:23.322 --> 01:19:28.727
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, and you need an army to be able to stay down just trying computer system.

01:19:28.867 --> 01:19:30.208
[SPEAKER_01]: You can do this solo.

01:19:30.628 --> 01:19:32.269
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, you're going to get caught like Joey.

01:19:33.911 --> 01:19:37.634
[SPEAKER_01]: But this penis out and you don't want to do that.

01:19:37.874 --> 01:19:45.100
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to have the best you lead team together and also, too, you want in razor and blade, they can they're able to hack.

01:19:45.502 --> 01:19:49.886
[SPEAKER_01]: into a whole entire network television to have their own show.

01:19:50.146 --> 01:19:51.747
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to need guys like this.

01:19:52.188 --> 01:19:52.988
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, absolutely.

01:19:53.028 --> 01:19:53.389
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:19:53.409 --> 01:19:58.853
[SPEAKER_01]: And then also like how, uh, yeah, Matthew and Lillard goes, well, if you do this, I'll do it.

01:19:58.893 --> 01:20:00.635
[SPEAKER_01]: And you, you'll have it in 10 minutes.

01:20:00.655 --> 01:20:05.759
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like Lord the rings where, but for hackers, you know, it's, um,

01:20:06.945 --> 01:20:07.686
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's what I get.

01:20:07.706 --> 01:20:11.730
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like Lord Lemings for hackers because if you have my computer, we'll do it in 10 minutes.

01:20:12.250 --> 01:20:13.912
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, if you do that, guess what?

01:20:14.032 --> 01:20:15.514
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be done in 15 minutes.

01:20:17.155 --> 01:20:19.478
[SPEAKER_02]: One seed drive to rule them all.

01:20:19.938 --> 01:20:21.680
[SPEAKER_01]: One floppy disk to bring them together.

01:20:24.858 --> 01:20:30.220
[SPEAKER_02]: But I get it right like this is kind of like the the we're belly and gearing up to take on the empire.

01:20:30.801 --> 01:20:40.785
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though at this point really all they're going on is days reconstruction of whatever was in this garbage file and maybe hopefully somehow this is actually something.

01:20:41.465 --> 01:20:45.847
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, there are a lot of leaps of faith to get to this point, but, you know,

01:20:46.267 --> 01:20:51.271
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just spending all this belief, okay, we're going to go with this, we have a plan, we have some outside help.

01:20:51.411 --> 01:21:10.064
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got our, basically a rose and crancing guilt and stern in these two with razor and blade and it is it's kind of actually it's more like I kind of like a statler and walled off kind of with with the two and how they're commenting on Kate and date and then they're like, but maybe, you know, it's it's almost like this.

01:21:10.624 --> 01:21:16.306
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, upper crust kind of look down and knows is at them, but we'll Dane to help you.

01:21:17.366 --> 01:21:17.666
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:21:17.786 --> 01:21:19.267
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's exactly what it looks like.

01:21:19.307 --> 01:21:23.728
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like an even whenever you measure a little car character who once I'm getting caught.

01:21:24.088 --> 01:21:32.831
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you then I also like how he's going into the offices to get underneath the people's desk to be able to ahead get the whole entire system.

01:21:33.514 --> 01:21:34.495
[SPEAKER_01]: to where they can hack it.

01:21:35.135 --> 01:21:38.216
[SPEAKER_01]: I do like him playing the IT guy and him looking.

01:21:38.997 --> 01:21:44.120
[SPEAKER_01]: So you need someone like him to actually fit the bill as like an IT person.

01:21:44.660 --> 01:21:47.842
[SPEAKER_01]: And he looks like every IT person that I actually know.

01:21:48.842 --> 01:21:50.043
[SPEAKER_02]: With their pants down that low?

01:21:50.623 --> 01:21:51.223
[SPEAKER_01]: Not that low.

01:21:51.323 --> 01:21:51.964
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.

01:21:52.504 --> 01:21:54.705
[SPEAKER_02]: Because just they know a crack here.

01:21:55.266 --> 01:21:55.966
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

01:21:56.026 --> 01:21:58.587
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, I don't want that kind of crack around in my life.

01:21:59.148 --> 01:21:59.368
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:21:59.548 --> 01:21:59.868
[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.

01:22:00.537 --> 01:22:13.156
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and then after that, you have after a crash in the Gibson date and company arrested date, quickly informs serial killer that he has tossed the disk in a trash can as date and Kate are being interrogated.

01:22:13.216 --> 01:22:15.199
[SPEAKER_01]: Raise your own blade, Jam, television signals.

01:22:15.599 --> 01:22:18.941
[SPEAKER_01]: And broadcast live video of serial killer revealing to the plot in place.

01:22:19.441 --> 01:22:29.027
[SPEAKER_01]: And policy plague is arrested on board a flight by Gill while attempting to play to Japan, the name's clear, deed and hate began in a relationship.

01:22:29.367 --> 01:22:30.708
[SPEAKER_01]: And they may go to this one pool.

01:22:30.728 --> 01:22:31.589
[SPEAKER_01]: Why the crowds roll?

01:22:32.209 --> 01:22:33.570
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:22:33.730 --> 01:22:39.153
[SPEAKER_02]: So, because we ain't getting out of this with at least two get together.

01:22:39.233 --> 01:22:39.534
[SPEAKER_02]: Are we?

01:22:40.054 --> 01:22:40.814
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.

01:22:41.175 --> 01:22:43.116
[SPEAKER_00]: We've worked all the way up to an hour and 30 or 40 minutes.

01:22:45.695 --> 01:22:46.975
[SPEAKER_01]: for them to go out on this date.

01:22:47.376 --> 01:22:54.498
[SPEAKER_02]: But also why are we going to like, you know, future jetzons where our us for our end clothing is very weird, right?

01:22:54.618 --> 01:23:00.680
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we go from early 2000s sci-fi and walk to now the jetzons look at the constant.

01:23:01.220 --> 01:23:02.101
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:23:02.161 --> 01:23:02.441
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?

01:23:02.741 --> 01:23:05.742
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, okay, Kate's in the dress.

01:23:05.902 --> 01:23:08.043
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, just like just like we said earlier in the movie.

01:23:08.103 --> 01:23:08.283
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:23:08.303 --> 01:23:08.403
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:23:08.695 --> 01:23:09.716
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you wearing, Dad?

01:23:10.636 --> 01:23:14.538
[SPEAKER_02]: What, you are ruining your chances with the choices that you are made.

01:23:14.558 --> 01:23:15.819
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to be in the front row?

01:23:15.839 --> 01:23:17.540
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the best way to get in the front row.

01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:18.160
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:23:19.041 --> 01:23:21.262
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you look special?

01:23:21.762 --> 01:23:22.463
[SPEAKER_01]: It's right.

01:23:23.023 --> 01:23:27.626
[SPEAKER_01]: I could just say, well, I wonder if my ballback boyfriend's gonna be available now.

01:23:27.966 --> 01:23:28.106
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:23:28.266 --> 01:23:29.347
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, what happened to him?

01:23:30.387 --> 01:23:41.373
[SPEAKER_02]: It's making it with her and then all of a sudden she starts looking at his computer and that he's gone because he's not in can do computer stuff or hacking So, well, I'm sorry, sir.

01:23:41.413 --> 01:23:43.294
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have a floppy disk or hard drive?

01:23:43.654 --> 01:23:44.454
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that was the problem.

01:23:44.474 --> 01:23:47.336
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe his floppy, maybe his disk was floppy.

01:23:47.756 --> 01:23:48.676
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was only 3.5.

01:23:48.696 --> 01:23:48.816
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:23:48.837 --> 01:23:49.337
[SPEAKER_02]: Not 4.5.

01:23:50.317 --> 01:23:56.580
[SPEAKER_02]: Not 5 in a quarter, floppy now.

01:23:56.841 --> 01:23:57.821
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a 5 in the quarter.

01:23:57.901 --> 01:23:58.341
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

01:23:59.922 --> 01:24:09.448
[SPEAKER_01]: But I got more right when my hard drive that you could possibly imagine, I need to make, I need to shout.

01:24:09.788 --> 01:24:16.612
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do like how Eugene and his girlfriend are now arrested and how they're blaming each other for the stuff.

01:24:16.732 --> 01:24:23.076
[SPEAKER_01]: It reminds me of home alone with Joe Pescian and them arguing back and forth about the story.

01:24:23.116 --> 01:24:25.637
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, as well as your fault.

01:24:25.697 --> 01:24:26.678
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was your fault.

01:24:26.738 --> 01:24:27.238
[SPEAKER_01]: It was all your

01:24:29.267 --> 01:24:32.849
[SPEAKER_01]: You're a sister and act to act the national waters.

01:24:33.570 --> 01:24:38.473
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, you started into a bad comedy with those two, right?

01:24:38.493 --> 01:24:40.814
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this is why it should became a psychiatrist later on.

01:24:41.135 --> 01:24:41.695
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

01:24:42.375 --> 01:24:43.396
[SPEAKER_01]: For Tony Suprano.

01:24:43.976 --> 01:24:46.118
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, also, we haven't talked about it yet.

01:24:46.998 --> 01:24:52.942
[SPEAKER_02]: Pendulette as, I don't know, guy in front of keyboard while Eugene does everything else.

01:24:53.743 --> 01:24:54.163
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

01:24:54.718 --> 01:24:56.941
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm sorry, don't be wrong.

01:24:57.141 --> 01:24:58.062
[SPEAKER_02]: I like Penn Gillette.

01:24:58.142 --> 01:25:01.626
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Penn and Telle's bullshit was one of the best shows on HBO.

01:25:02.146 --> 01:25:04.769
[SPEAKER_02]: But, Penn, what do you do in there, man?

01:25:05.110 --> 01:25:06.191
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not touching any buttons.

01:25:06.211 --> 01:25:10.596
[SPEAKER_02]: You're just, you are literally Sigourney Weaver from Galaxy Quest just commenting on things.

01:25:11.236 --> 01:25:14.120
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and looking at how smart you tune is.

01:25:14.707 --> 01:25:16.288
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's all he is.

01:25:16.848 --> 01:25:20.650
[SPEAKER_01]: He he he sucked us in a hurting guard to be honest with you.

01:25:21.030 --> 01:25:25.972
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, also the attorney at the beginning going back to the very very very getting the attorney at the beginning.

01:25:26.372 --> 01:25:27.372
[SPEAKER_02]: Felicity Huffman.

01:25:27.773 --> 01:25:29.473
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even recognize her to be honest with you.

01:25:29.653 --> 01:25:37.977
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, pre desperate house wise Felicity Huffman was the attorney who lost the case and cost them $45,000.

01:25:38.357 --> 01:25:39.398
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that explains it.

01:25:39.838 --> 01:25:40.038
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

01:25:41.732 --> 01:25:46.096
[SPEAKER_01]: But she did pretty good for herself, she did a, um, being in the neighborhood with all the other desperate housewives.

01:25:46.136 --> 01:25:46.916
[SPEAKER_01]: So pretty much.

01:25:46.936 --> 01:25:48.498
[SPEAKER_01]: She came out on top with the 45,000.

01:25:48.518 --> 01:25:49.799
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.

01:25:50.379 --> 01:25:55.323
[SPEAKER_01]: So now that we got sick to this with a modern eye, and we got rid of the nostalgia, what do you think?

01:25:55.503 --> 01:26:00.748
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I still kind of look at this at a six, six and a half, um, a couple things here.

01:26:01.008 --> 01:26:06.072
[SPEAKER_02]: So obviously, when we kind of mentioned about, you know, looking at these and not trying to,

01:26:07.033 --> 01:26:13.399
[SPEAKER_02]: criticize the way things look with a modern eye because the graphics are going to change throughout.

01:26:13.819 --> 01:26:21.526
[SPEAKER_02]: I think really the only movie you can take a look at from the 90s and say, wow, it still holds up to this day is probably Jurassic Park.

01:26:22.126 --> 01:26:24.988
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything else kind of pales and comparison to that.

01:26:25.469 --> 01:26:28.431
[SPEAKER_02]: So, obviously, this is a project of its time, and I'm fine with that.

01:26:29.212 --> 01:26:37.759
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a fantastic indicator of how big Angelina Shirley was going to be and how much of a presence she was going to be on camera.

01:26:38.260 --> 01:26:46.707
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay, it was leaning into the whole idea of hackers or cool kind of thing, and it leaned into some of the the what's cool and the tropes

01:26:48.508 --> 01:26:50.750
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's a time capsule film, right?

01:26:50.971 --> 01:26:53.393
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not a bad movie.

01:26:54.714 --> 01:26:55.435
[SPEAKER_02]: I could defend it.

01:26:55.475 --> 01:26:58.618
[SPEAKER_02]: I could say it's better than the Rotten Tomatoes score that it actually has.

01:26:59.339 --> 01:27:09.849
[SPEAKER_02]: But the thing is it is still kind of it sits in its own lane and it does have a lot of these plot holes where if one person just did their job right, the movie would be over at about 20 minutes.

01:27:10.429 --> 01:27:18.495
[SPEAKER_02]: I still think it sits around a six or seven, meaning because I think the soundtrack stands out above everything else, the soundtracks, yeah.

01:27:18.895 --> 01:27:21.057
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's an unheralded soundtrack.

01:27:21.077 --> 01:27:25.780
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, I've on my music show there can only be one and on-spin shuffle skip.

01:27:26.160 --> 01:27:30.803
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I've talked about things that are like the amount rush more of soundtracks.

01:27:30.823 --> 01:27:33.445
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously the crow was out there, singles is out there.

01:27:33.865 --> 01:27:38.549
[SPEAKER_02]: 90 soundtracks were the absolute bomb and the soundtracks haven't been the same since the 90s.

01:27:39.429 --> 01:27:45.553
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is one of those underrated ones, if you're into techno and electronic.

01:27:46.413 --> 01:27:46.634
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:27:46.714 --> 01:27:49.776
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was big and I'm big into techno at that time.

01:27:51.056 --> 01:27:57.120
[SPEAKER_01]: As well, prodigy was probably one of the biggest things that I liked in the 90s first techno goes.

01:27:57.240 --> 01:27:58.341
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like movie too much.

01:27:58.701 --> 01:28:02.423
[SPEAKER_01]: But prodigy was actually one of those things that I really love for high energy music.

01:28:02.864 --> 01:28:04.625
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's nails you can actually put in there as like

01:28:08.895 --> 01:28:13.898
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, but for me, I like the soundtrack.

01:28:13.918 --> 01:28:14.918
[SPEAKER_01]: I like what they did with it.

01:28:15.839 --> 01:28:19.721
[SPEAKER_01]: They're stuff that's aged out now, the technology's aged out for me.

01:28:21.642 --> 01:28:27.425
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the dialogue for me falls out for me for me to be able to give it a really good score.

01:28:27.946 --> 01:28:31.027
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I like, I can watch this movie still in time I want to.

01:28:31.448 --> 01:28:34.069
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually own it on 4K because I liked it so much.

01:28:34.089 --> 01:28:35.330
[SPEAKER_01]: I got the anniversary edition.

01:28:38.031 --> 01:28:41.155
[SPEAKER_02]: because some of them are in 4K, my goodness, right?

01:28:41.375 --> 01:28:43.878
[SPEAKER_01]: You can actually see everything now as so clear now.

01:28:44.018 --> 01:28:47.182
[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, make it with that mathematical formula is, right?

01:28:47.322 --> 01:28:54.030
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially those little bars that they have now, you know, but for me, I don't know if they give this at least

01:28:56.095 --> 01:28:57.636
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's gone down for you.

01:28:58.016 --> 01:28:58.236
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:28:59.017 --> 01:29:03.659
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, going into this, I had a very neutral opinion sitting at sex.

01:29:03.799 --> 01:29:05.700
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it still holds that six, six and a half.

01:29:05.760 --> 01:29:11.943
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it went down for me because I was expecting something that was of its time and it's going to look dated.

01:29:12.463 --> 01:29:13.964
[SPEAKER_02]: And I tried to see past that.

01:29:14.785 --> 01:29:18.767
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a good action romp, even though if it is,

01:29:19.547 --> 01:29:32.535
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the little far fetched of you will and yeah, um, Fisher Stevens is a little can't be at the end of it all, but it was, it was, it was not a waste of my hour to have you exactly.

01:29:33.015 --> 01:29:40.040
[SPEAKER_02]: I had fun watching it and that's, you know, if an hour and a half of my time has spent with a smile, I'm good with it.

01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:41.080
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.

01:29:41.841 --> 01:29:42.121
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:29:42.161 --> 01:29:43.982
[SPEAKER_01]: So my question is for you, Jason, like,

01:29:47.421 --> 01:29:51.382
[SPEAKER_01]: After that, I'll give everybody else tell everybody else about what I'm doing.

01:29:52.343 --> 01:29:59.365
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so this is going to be a really special year because in August, my podcast, it's not that pattern.

01:29:59.405 --> 01:30:01.686
[SPEAKER_02]: It's five freaking years old.

01:30:01.706 --> 01:30:03.747
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to be celebrating that first week of August.

01:30:04.207 --> 01:30:06.128
[SPEAKER_02]: And then this coming October.

01:30:07.182 --> 01:30:09.704
[SPEAKER_02]: Machtober returns for the 30 year in a row.

01:30:09.744 --> 01:30:11.105
[SPEAKER_02]: So we got a bunch of stuff happening up on it.

01:30:11.145 --> 01:30:12.086
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not that bad.

01:30:12.806 --> 01:30:17.069
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been prepping about a ton of stuff up for there and it'll be one of my music show.

01:30:17.830 --> 01:30:18.910
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, no one.

01:30:19.511 --> 01:30:20.371
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to announce this.

01:30:21.772 --> 01:30:23.734
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't put this on the website yet.

01:30:23.854 --> 01:30:25.455
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to announce this on the website.

01:30:25.475 --> 01:30:27.576
[SPEAKER_02]: So I got to show if that's OK. You get the exclusive here.

01:30:29.101 --> 01:30:30.002
[SPEAKER_02]: On there can only be one.

01:30:30.022 --> 01:30:34.846
[SPEAKER_02]: If you listen to that podcast where we go through an artist'sography and pick only one song for me, job them.

01:30:35.607 --> 01:30:38.229
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we have spent shuffle skip, but just sister show on it.

01:30:38.829 --> 01:30:44.834
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a brand new sister show coming up on that channel.

01:30:44.854 --> 01:30:53.441
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, because part of the rules of there can only be one is that a daughter says to have five albums or more in their discography.

01:30:54.253 --> 01:31:00.057
[SPEAKER_02]: But that doesn't really help for the artists who don't who never made five albums.

01:31:00.538 --> 01:31:07.623
[SPEAKER_02]: So coming soon, and you're going to get the first drop of this in that first week of August.

01:31:08.564 --> 01:31:13.347
[SPEAKER_02]: The under five top five is going to be a show that comes up on the channel.

01:31:13.988 --> 01:31:17.931
[SPEAKER_02]: The top five songs from artists with fewer than five albums.

01:31:18.970 --> 01:31:19.611
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sweet.

01:31:19.711 --> 01:31:20.071
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:31:20.432 --> 01:31:21.353
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that idea.

01:31:21.913 --> 01:31:27.520
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's one of the first, yeah, the first Tuesday of August that you're going to get your very first under five top five.

01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:30.403
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to say who it is, but it's a good one.

01:31:31.083 --> 01:31:31.364
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:31:32.353 --> 01:31:57.834
[SPEAKER_01]: So guys, I just want to let everybody know that in a section I often was on the show with me the other night we ended up dropping her house on a hill review going to check that out also too I designed a new t-shirt and it's called don't make me go Rambo on you and it's a parody of of Gizmo Chris that best Rambo so get yourself some merch I actually spent a lot of time making this

01:31:58.675 --> 01:31:59.275
[SPEAKER_01]: cute shirt.

01:31:59.355 --> 01:32:02.056
[SPEAKER_01]: I also have tumblers that says, don't make me go random one.

01:32:02.076 --> 01:32:04.438
[SPEAKER_01]: I also have movie lovesy night merch as well.

01:32:04.998 --> 01:32:08.079
[SPEAKER_01]: So go ahead, go over to bonfire.com for slash movie lovers night.

01:32:08.219 --> 01:32:09.820
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the link will be in the description below.

01:32:09.920 --> 01:32:10.940
[SPEAKER_01]: Get yourself some merch.

01:32:11.641 --> 01:32:12.721
[SPEAKER_01]: And let's go.

01:32:13.101 --> 01:32:17.823
[SPEAKER_01]: And then coming up this week, Jason will be back on the show again.

01:32:17.843 --> 01:32:19.484
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be doing Al Mariachi.

01:32:19.784 --> 01:32:25.987
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm hoping to have you back on again to be able to finish off our Desperado.

01:32:28.170 --> 01:32:29.171
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, trilogy.

01:32:29.231 --> 01:32:29.551
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

01:32:29.891 --> 01:32:31.432
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the pilot time in Medico.

01:32:31.792 --> 01:32:36.454
[SPEAKER_02]: So I am so looking for it, I got to kill it already to go.

01:32:36.994 --> 01:32:38.495
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to kill it.

01:32:38.775 --> 01:32:39.616
[SPEAKER_01]: I got my guitar.

01:32:39.696 --> 01:32:40.476
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good to go.

01:32:40.896 --> 01:32:41.576
[SPEAKER_01]: Am I right?

01:32:42.377 --> 01:32:49.020
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I have a nylon string classical acoustic guitar sitting over there that I will horribly play for you when we get to that point.

01:32:49.691 --> 01:32:54.875
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so if you guys want to have a drink with us, why would we do this and get drunk in turn us out?

01:32:54.915 --> 01:32:55.656
[SPEAKER_01]: That's great, too.

01:32:56.176 --> 01:32:56.417
[SPEAKER_01]: So.

01:32:58.999 --> 01:33:00.640
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be guitarist starts just to now.

01:33:00.680 --> 01:33:02.742
[SPEAKER_02]: Hit the mute button with the guitar goes away.

01:33:02.922 --> 01:33:03.583
[SPEAKER_02]: Take it off mute.

01:33:04.203 --> 01:33:04.643
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

01:33:05.184 --> 01:33:07.346
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, guys, I hope everyone has a great and safe.

01:33:07.466 --> 01:33:09.147
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we'll catch you guys on the next one.

01:33:09.167 --> 01:33:11.709
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much, Jason, for upcoming on yet.

01:33:12.170 --> 01:33:13.571
[SPEAKER_01]: After Sunday, I do appreciate it.

01:33:14.255 --> 01:33:15.416
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, absolute pleasure, man.

01:33:15.576 --> 01:33:16.377
[SPEAKER_02]: Anytime.

01:33:16.497 --> 01:33:16.938
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

01:33:17.658 --> 01:33:18.639
[SPEAKER_01]: And thank you, sleepy.

01:33:18.679 --> 01:33:21.762
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