Edward Scissorhands (1990) Review | Hits Different as an Adult

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[SPEAKER_01]: And hello, movie lovers, I'm open to show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So with me, I'm a girlfriend so here with me from Beck looks in my podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're here to talk about Edward's experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does it hold up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does it not hold up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna find that out tonight as we strip away that nostalgia and we're gonna do that right now, guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So everyone, give a warm welcome back to my friends' zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, how are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good to be back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's great to have you back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy to have you here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my question for you is, this is your first time seeing this movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're just as good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm intrigued.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to know what your thoughts was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because this one is actually for me and this dial just I'm going to go into that in a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I want to know your first thoughts and everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can actually take an NA for this dial,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when with what your first initial thoughts was whenever you've seen the previews, where were you at this time when you first heard about it versus your hands?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the thing is I've always wanted to see this movie when it originally came out I just never got around the scene and then I just kept skipping your passing it over or whatever just never got around to sitting down and watching the film because I'm kind of a fan of 10 Burton like most of the films that I've watched that he's directed a kind of enjoyed so like there that man of course, but then there's also

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[SPEAKER_00]: the demon barber of Fleet Street.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to talk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's also some sleep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sleepy Hollow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sleepy Hollow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that was a good one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I even liked, which the one that everybody else hated, the House of Wonderland.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, not that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, that's probably when I didn't like it as much, but I didn't hate it like the other ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, if this is also like a new adaptation of a book, I'm trying to think of a name of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about a Charlie Charlie Charlie in chocolate factory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I actually kind of liked it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was it was overly long, but it kind of hit his aesthetic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of liked that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never got a route to watching a pee was big adventure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't realize that that was this first trial.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So actually I've seen that one as a kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know a lot of people did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't overly attracted to pee behind me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People weren't going to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I was like, I was a little bit of an older kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And seeing bits of it, like I never watched an entire show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But seeing bits of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, yeah, this is, I'm way too old for this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I remember saying I'm having fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, teacher Herman is like a Captain Kangaroo or like Mr. Rogers or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of them are Captain Kangaroo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He used to come on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he came on Saturday mornings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember watching him when I was very young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was very news by him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, you know, I was way too for TV Herman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can imagine so, man, like that was my captain kangaroo was P.V.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Herman and something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's actually my captain kangaroo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit goofy talking couches and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, P.V.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Herman was actually my captain kangaroo if you think about it in that kind of context.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I was I was pretty excited about watching this now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to say that I was my excitement was tempered because a few years ago people asked him about why he didn't have as much diversity in the thrones like maybe in some other films and he would say stuff like well, you know, my films don't call for it or don't call for that diversity or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a very unsatisfactory answer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think what the real answer is is that he grew up at a time when you watched television, it was like mostly white people on television.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's calling back to that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why many of his films look the way they do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of his films kind of call to their past.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They kind of call to maybe like the 1940s of 1950s of America.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's where he's does the aesthetic that he's trying to raise up in his films.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't see like a futuristic Tim Burton film.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're not going to see a film by Tim Burton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about 2020.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's too early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's too late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 21, 21.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to see that from Tim Burton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you're definitely not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that I have to say is like what the new Beetlejuice Tim Burton did put

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[SPEAKER_01]: a couple of like people in there, but I mean, yeah, there's, there's always going to be a little bit right here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, there's always going to, I mean, even casting like Billy Williams as Harvey didn't that's like an inspired casting because you kind of expect him to show up in a future film as the main bad guy is everybody know that he, he has a, a heel turn, but so there's always going to be a couple of people, like even like with Pete and Herman,

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[SPEAKER_00]: people Herman had Cowboy Bob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't know what Cowboys is named Cowboy Jim Cowboy Bob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we'll just play by Lawrence Fishburne.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is the name?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure it's Curtis Cowboy Curtis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a Cowboy Curtis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That sounds about right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't Cowboy Chris was in pee adventure with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he wasn't.

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[UNKNOWN]: No, he

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[SPEAKER_01]: which is crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think the movie was the TV show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it was in extension of the TV show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is supposed to be separate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the show, I never watched it though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't make that judgment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like the TV show was very much a show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a, you know, he's presenting stuff to children.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in the movie, he's basically acting out a narrative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's completely different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like even in episodes, there's a, you know, at least, there's a few black people that there were some kids in the classroom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then there's also the police office and who plays a significant role in the story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like he doesn't have diversity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't want to feel like that he's being forced to do a bit at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The answer that he gave, that he gives, it's pretty obvious that he kind of wants to see, he wants to harken back to America.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't, like, there are a lot of people that never knew that they were black people with scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, go back to that the age of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: of entertainment of that and those 40s of like at least how people are mad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how people today imagine that the entertainment was because in that time, like maybe not in the 50s, but certainly in like the 20s and 30s, there was like certain types of entertainment where you couldn't get away from it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there was a time when the most popular form of entertainment was Blackface.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that you see anymore for obvious reasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I remember that though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then some of the people's favorite stars have performed in Blackface.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the kind of information and history that is currently being suppressed right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think people like Tim Burton they want to keep it suppressed as much as possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, okay, so going off minus voucher though, too, this is what I have to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My as a as a little kid going into the movie theaters to see this for the very first time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I still remember the trailer to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember telling my mom, I want to see this movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is actually my Tim Burton, this is actually my Gothic Tim Burton, without the CGI, without the weird stuff that normally does and stuff like that, this is all practical effects, this is my Tim Burton, right, in the 1990s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is actually the first collaboration between Johnny Depp and him as well, which I didn't know that at the time until I did some research on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing that captivated me was the Gothic look,

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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy who has a hint of scissors for hands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was intrigued with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, let me go out and see this movie with my mom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I dragged my poor mom to see this 90 minute movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have to say my nostalgia is at least a 10 because of the fact that I watch this movie over a hundred times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'm not only that, but I also have an Edward Scissor hands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, figure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, too, I could have this on VHS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also bought the Blue Ray.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also bought the 4K for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, how you doing game Freakness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I haven't seen it get this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually revisited this recently to do this review.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen this in forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, for me as a child, seeing this for the very first time, it's a tent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking this is the best movie on the planet Earth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm enjoying this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm laughing my ass off at Johnny Depp, banging his head up against the car on an accident.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm enjoying my innocence on my use watching it now it's probably going to be a different story and we're going to get into that why once we strip away this nostalgia, but yeah, so that's where I am I'm adding solid tech for this this is my this my childhood this my innocence on my life thing and that everything's all

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[SPEAKER_00]: Me and my nine years old and that's definitely this static that he is trying to present what this movie reminded me a lot of was Forgot what it's called it's a it's a move that came out just a couple years ago, and I can't even I can't remember the names of the people who are in it, but it at any rate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was more of a sci-fi film and the film kind of opens with this

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[SPEAKER_00]: throw back 1955, 1960 aesthetic, for people living in like that, the, the cold the sack, where all the houses look almost exactly alike.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they get into their cars that are all similar, and it has been started working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very, the wives they hang.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's, I miss you darling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love you darling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love you darling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It starts for Florence Pue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And styles, rate, high-risk styles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that was a pretty decent movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what Edward Siddler hands your minds me up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: OK.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Game Freakness as well, does the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he does, he does and we're getting it as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not only does he eat with his fans, but he also serves food with his hands as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's a master of many, uh, many trades.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's not a master at eating foods with his.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He sucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he struggles with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He struggles with drinking and he's, and it's funny, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he doesn't need to eat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's obviously demonstrated because he's, he's been in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: house alone before he was discovered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been in there for many years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's indeterminate how long he's been in there, but he had to have been in there for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's had lead in all the time and never felt that he needed to eat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's obviously a machine, but apparently he's a machine that can eat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get it to we're going to get into this because but stripping the wind in the shelter you're going to left your ass off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, my, oh, my.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How everything as an adult now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop and harm looking at this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all the questions I have in life right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, right, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a TV.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, forget about him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's go on ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's now that we talked about this moving this down strictly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to say welcome back to movie loves tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The podcast where you break down the movies be grew up on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Seeing by scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not finished.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then hit him up with the modern day rating like Edward trying to give a haircut.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Beautiful at first, but somebody definitely definitely getting cut.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: would you have mine?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host, John, and today we're talking about the only man who can line you up trim your hedges and accidentally catch a body and all before lunch, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Edwards is a hands because nothing says real man's like falling in love with a guy who can't even text you back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: without slicing his phone in half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And joining me today, I was so from the back look sent him a podcast as we answered the hard-kitting questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How does Edward sleep without turning his bed into a shredded memory phone?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How did nobody in the neighborhood think, hey, maybe giving this dude hedge clippers for hands, isn't safe?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And most importantly, how the hell did it was this man supposed to survive cuffing season?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So grab your hair spray, hide your waterbeds, and for the love of God, keep your hands to yourself because we're diving into Edward's residence and trust me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This review is going to cut deep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now we're going to go into the scene by scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So scene one, and elderly woman tells her granddaughter the story of a young man named Edward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: who has scissors and blades for hands, as the creation of an old inventor, Edward is a humanoid who is almost completed the inventor home school's Edward but suffers a heart attack and dies before giving real hands to Edward leaving him permanently unfinished.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what I want to say is this, I like the opening of this where you actually have

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[SPEAKER_01]: the credits of it, you have Danny Elkman score, which is just beautifully laid out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you get into the story of this nice little lady telling this nice story, and I like how she's telling it like this, you're as well, this is a guy named Edward, and he lives up in the hills.

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[SPEAKER_01]: then you see it cut into this whole entire deal where it goes out to the window and we're introduced to this neighborhood like you mentioned so and it's all covered in snow and then you see and we're looking out into uh out into the neighborhood uh up in this little castle tower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just thought that was kind of interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if it was like Edwards also thinking about when owner writer as an old woman, while he's also thinking about himself and wondering, I wonder was she's up to nowadays?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder what she's doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does she have kids, does she not have kids?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But still, what did you think of the opening shot?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted a thing that I thought I was like, well, Tim Burton really loves miniature.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's his jam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It reminds me of the opening of Beetlejuice specifically, and I'm pretty sure that there are some other films where he used miniature.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was it was nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was it called to the anticipation of the film and when I saw the old woman, I knew immediately that it was a younger woman dressed in makeup, but I was wrong about who that woman was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they, after this scene, they go to the next scene and they show all the women.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that it was like the main character woman that the Abon lady, I thought it was her, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And at the end of the film, I was pleasantly surprised that it was somebody completely different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was, I liked that the way they had jogged in there a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's not like, it's not that the makeup is so bad that you can instantly tell, but anybody's paying attention

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[SPEAKER_00]: to make up, you know, when it's a younger person, that's just to look older.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very difficult to pull off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the way that it looks though, the way the cosmetics and stuff like that works for the makeup itself, for when owner writer, you can tell with the lips and like the makeup's like here to hear old and then for lips, it looks like she's young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, right, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because the certain things that they can't really cover up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the other thing is that

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[SPEAKER_00]: People tend to look younger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: then they, then when they age them up, like you see actors and they get aged up make up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when you see them reach that age in real time and real life, they don't look nearly like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like for example, you have William Schottner famously, at least a couple of times in the original Star Trek TV show, he's aged to look like an old man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then fast forward to like even today

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[SPEAKER_00]: 80 something years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He looks much younger than what they painted them as in that old episode of Star Trek.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they they can't quite crack how how to present an older person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How that make up works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's none of the 90s at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, in today's makeup and everything, you can probably do a little bit of Benjamin button effect and stuff like that with a thing like that, but back in those days, doing practical effects with a younger person, such as Winona Rider at that time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a very hard thing to pull off, like you mentioned, which is probably why they kind of did like a little bit of a far away shot, a little bit, and then also a little bit more of an up close shot, like later on towards the end of the film.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, like you know, that's actually,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kim does actually the love interest for Edward right right yeah so that that was a thing that I had to continue with but yeah it was I like how the movie's being set up you can also the thing that I noticed that is being set up as a fable like a whole thing like the way that the set design is the way they use the colors in the beginning the the music it's also set up to as a fable it's like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Most movies are set up to make you think that this is real life with this is nothing that can really happen or something that's actually happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They try to reach as close to realism as they can, but Tim Burton style is that he wants you to know that you're being told a story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he's not going to try to reach the the utmost of realism and you can see that being set up in the opening shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and plus this is also a children's story, though, if you think about it with the grandmother telling the daughter, the granddaughter about her life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just like a little bit of fantasy mixed in with the storytelling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why it also kind of looks like that to I think it's just the mind of the childing innocence of the child, the way that kids probably pinched it in their minds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I was thinking going into it as an adult of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because as I was at age six or seven watching this for the first time in the day and having that instance, I'm watching this for the first time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But also, there are certain things I got to ask you about when you saw this scene and watching it as a child.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I know we don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which scene I talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's actually two scenes that we can talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One is this one coming up, but many years later, Peg Boggs, a local door to door Avon C. Oswoman tries to sell all that's a descriptive gothic mansion where Edward lives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She finds Edward alone and offers to take him to her home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After discovering, he is virtually harmless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Take introduces Edward to her family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Her husband, Bill, the young son, Kevin, and their teenage daughter, Kim.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Edward falls in love with Kim, despite her initial fear of him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we actually see her going to order to work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Avon calling, Avon calling, and then you see the slide of the neighborhood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with because every summer home has either the overall religious woman or they have the slight of the whole entire neighborhood, which happens to be hurt, you know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, she knocks on this woman's door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, oh, can you not tell that there's actually a truck?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell my door right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm busy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she closes the door in her face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's hitting on every dude that she can come across.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that this probably nothing wrong with their washing machine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She just called the doodle work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, so she can basically, so she can attack him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what though like I didn't that went over my head as a child to be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it's supposed to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is it's supposed to because in the like this if you need to have something in there for the parents right because their kids drag your ass to go see this movie, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like okay, so we need to have something young for the adults.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's have some sexualization with somebody, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's go ahead and do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but yeah, Joyce is actually the slutty neighbor and you know the thing then even the sexual jokes though is like, oh, isn't there like a thing on the subject about lonely and handyman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that are that are lonely punch of people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then can it be as not even paying attention to her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just basically, okay, then all you do is just put this in there and out she pops and even that is like a sexual sexual joke as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, right, then with that character, her name is Joyce with Joyce, there are a lot of things that happen with her to put she is she is an extremely sexually charged woman, but yeah, she she was extremely funny and in those moments the other thing I noticed were were the colors it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: all these pastel colors or these primary colors that they use very specific, you use the very limited palette.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this reminds me of Dick Tracy, where they did our purpose, where they only use colors where you could see in a comic book in the 1930s or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and the Dick Tracy moved the movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They used a lot of primary colors and they did the same with this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not that it was just primary colors, but because they use a lot of pastels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I noticed like the same color green that was on a telephone was like the same color green that was on somebody else's carpet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the same color green that somebody else's dress that or somebody somebody else's dress was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was another thing that emphasized how this is the fable element of this story or how I think was going door to door being very polite and doing the hardest job in the world trying to sell avon products were and to people that she knows not going to buy her products even that teenage girl that she tries to sell avon to just yeah what's one do you like I like this one well what makes you think I'm gonna what makes you think I have money

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she said, you don't think I have any money to you, like I'm pretty show the teenager would have bought it as she had the money, but she didn't have any money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's just, or she's trying to get something out of either that or she's just trying to get something out of her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay, I can get free samples from this Abon lady and just paint my photo nails on fingernails with this free shit from it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, pretty much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like being a teenager, you just kind of like polite is like an able lady.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lady comes to your home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually somebody you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you invite them in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have coffee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You do let her do her spieler demonstration.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, but a lot of times this happens is like, you go, you try to tell somebody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they say, well, I can't buy anything at this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After you've just got done having a whole display for an hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do the samples and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they do

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's practice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then also to you have you have Helen that's over there too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She knocks on his hard to work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at the gigadan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She said, you know, I'm not going to buy anything from you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, at least she was honest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least she didn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We could teenage girls in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She sells it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's saying people all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She, you know, she, I think what happens is that she starts on her neighborhood and maybe she expands from out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's like there's no way you're going to be successful trying to sell in just her neighborhood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure that she expands.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think Helen was the first house she went to and yeah, that was with so funny is that she Ellen answers the door and she lets the, you know, what's the name go, you know, you know, I'm selling all of these, this may have good for what not, you know, she just looks at she, I think her name is pay she looks at pay with pity and says, you know, I got to buy anything for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cheers, I know, and then walks off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, right, right, you know, you have to try.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see, she has to try.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think, you know what's funny is how she skipped the religious woman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what she looked at the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right, first she's like, okay, maybe I should try her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then she sees her at the organ and stuff like, nah, right, right, right, right, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was brilliant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was fun with it and then, you know, I think it's brilliant because you, it sets up like why did she skip that house, like she is very determined that she's going to people that she's no was not going to buy her product and then she purposely skipped that house and that sets up a later in the film as to what happens later in the film and why she would you just skip that house, right, because once you find out who that character is and what she is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like hyper religious, not just religious, she's I call it hyper religious, right, right where everything in the house is nothing by crucifix is probably And stuff like that, she probably even has a cross in her own bedroom besides the living one that she has.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, mostly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She got, she has portraits everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's a singing religious homes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, she goes to church.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're times a week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, she's that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's like whenever she talks to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But see the thing about it, it's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not somewhere so she's hyper-religious because, you know, for the sake of religion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not like she's preaching peace and happiness to everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's basically telling everybody about the devil and how they might go to hell or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think that's what makes her unpleasant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's very unpleasant woman, but at the same time, though, I think that I know hyper religious people that are like that, though, is like, I call it hyper religious is because you're going to go to hell instead of like, you know, trying to be salt and light and try to ease into the conversation, not her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She just goes on ahead and just tells it like it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's where the hyper religious thing comes from to me as someone that has been around it a little bit, but that's where I get out of it is like she's like hyper religious to me, but then you see pay go into her car and at first you're right though, on the thing that she's leading the neighborhood to go out maybe to the town maybe to sell some Abon maybe she has a table in the back or something that she maybe she planned out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe she's going to go and sell up that little market thing that we see Edward at, I don't know, but she sees the castles, I like how she has her mirror and how all of a sudden you have this beautiful neighborhood and then all of a then you have a castle looking over this neighborhood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like as if she's even king is supposed to be living there or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, close they had Vincent Price was living there, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to get to that in a minute, because I want to know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have some questions, let's put it that way, but I do like how she goes up to drives into the driveway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see all these things that Everton has done, you see the lawn care that he's done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you see, I like how they play around with it though, like you don't see Johnny does face or anything, you see a shadow of Edward, like when she looks up and then coming up and get moved away from the window and then she goes into his house and to the castle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you see the a bat in the the bat and everything too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I should go away and then you see a shadow on the right hand side and then you hear the little the scissors sound effect right then Edward hurries up runs away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do like the fact that this castle feels like a character and it's own self.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's very atmospheric with the castle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you also have the cookie baking machines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm calling it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care what he says.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the only thing it could be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very elaborate device that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It creates the dough and it flattened the dough and then it cuts the dough and the cookie shapes and it bakes it, but these are very under cooked cookies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I let's put that oven is not nearly long enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, just know where you can bake it in such a way that it's going to be good cookies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are some doughy ass cookies that he's been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is something that white people would eat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even sure like it's just white people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anybody who likes crumble cookie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a lot of people who like crumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I think crumble cookie is not a race based organization.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think everybody loves crumble cookie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so anybody who loves crumble cookie would love the cookies that this this inventor makes from this oven because that's where it is being cooked way too fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what we live in a fast place right now where we have to drive throughs and it still doesn't make a deal of a difference and we have to drive throughs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he just loves cookies, that's his favorite thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he doesn't have a machine to make anything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, sure he does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has machines to make other things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But as far as like food or culinary experience, he has a giant machine specifically for cookies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he doesn't have like a pasta machine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have like a pizza machine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have, he doesn't have a fried chicken machine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just has a cookie machine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he has a purchase for cookies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but what do you think of the castle?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think of pig coming in there and something like that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I want to know and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's interesting because like she's full of color.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's got on these color for clothes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She comes out of her color for a car and she's wearing these color for clothes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she goes into this house and this the house is like black and white.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like and everything around it is just gray black and shadows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so,

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[SPEAKER_00]: it's a stark contrast between her and the house and her looking around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like the way it builds up anticipation for what's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when she gets to the attic, the first thing I noticed was like, there's a giant hole in the roof.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no real explanation for how that whole got there, but I'm thinking to myself,

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[SPEAKER_00]: that the Florida addict should be ruined by now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It should be ruined like it should be an unsafe place to walk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's experience all manner of weather for Lord knows how long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it should be all rotten wood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it should all be molded by now and run, but that must be smell to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Perhaps it's the whole in the roof of the other recent event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the wood is not yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: has not yet rotted or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like how Edward was discovered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What happens is that, because I didn't see it at first, I think maybe my TV was set to dim, because I didn't see anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then what happens, you see a glint of his scissors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I saw that glint.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, miss something over there in that corner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she says, oh, miss something over there in that corner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she goes out and she,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was a very interesting meeting because at first, she's horrified as she should be because it's a dude with giant scissors where his hand should be and then she's like, she takes video on a month like almost immediately because he has like a child like the meaner and she and she senses that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's, I love how that, it's a very believable way that these two people can meet each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like how, I think it's a believable way that she doesn't immediately run away, screaming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As this is obviously like an analogue to Frankenstein.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like if you can imagine Frankenstein with giant scissors for hands, it's like it was the screaming would never stop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is like a kind of flip on that story where instead of people like a stranger, running away from Frankenstein, they take pity on them and they basically bring them into their home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The way that relationship kind of develops immediately, it was surprising, but it didn't feel unnatural.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I really like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that natural thing that she does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also like how she looks over to with this little crummy bed is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's like the national inquire of people without hands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's like, Edward is actually searching for hope that he'll someday have hands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as a kid, I'm like, I feel so bad for Edward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm looking back at him like, who put that there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who put that there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who put that there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have to wait to put the tax on there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been something that the inventor left behind on the other thing was that the first words that Edward said to her what she said what happened to your hands and he holds out his scissors and it's like I'm not finished and she's immediately frightened and it was like it's amazing that's that's the thing that has occupied him for a very long time with the fact that he was an unfinished creation

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like how she's like, oh, put those down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Put those down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're supposed to be afraid of giant scissors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be if I seen this dude coming at me with scissors for hands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Put the scissors down and we'll talk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's, yeah, and he's very compliant, like he, there's an understanding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he's got scars all over his face and I had not realized why his face was so scarred to later on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing is that because of his demeanor, he's kind of quiet and he seems to be shy and he seems to have a.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a child wonder about the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what attracted her to him or what gave her confidence that this is someone who she could bring it to her home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, because she feels bad for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay, she goes, let me try cleaning you up and she takes some of her aim on stuff and things like that and cleans up his cars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then just I think I usually come home with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she does like this little head bow and then Edward does it back to her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then next thing you know, she's there in the car and you're right about the innocence though it's like the innocence of the child as if it was Edward and he I like how you have the slip and slide and he gets excited about the guy the person going down in the slip and slide and he's like and then he accidentally bumps his head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, because he's never been outside the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's never been, he's never seen so much color.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing about it is that the way Edward is dressed, I'm not sure if he's naked or if that or those supposed to be as close, because he never takes it all, but he's got on this like these black leather straps and and he has chalk white skin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he goes into a neighborhood that's filled with color or like greens and blues and and purples and and just all manner of different flavors of color.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what happens is that this is basically drawing a line between himself and the rest of the world like it's showing visually how he is separate from everybody else right right and then when she she gets him home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And tries to make him feel comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I liked how the stories being told visually as well as do dialogue and actions that part I like because it shows the separation between Edward and the rest of the world and the way the rest of the world thinks of Edward as well and being like like alienated from everybody else you know and then even whenever you go when she's bringing them through the neighborhood in

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, making phone calls and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, what though, I think those are his clothes because of the fact that he, I think it's made out of a machine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think those are machinery clothes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I do have to say I do like the costuming and then they also do the separation of the with the colors and stuff like that, the scalar color scheme and also like how she brings her into her house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're seeing this thing play out where's like wow, I'm missing out on something that I never never experienced, especially when she looks at all the pictures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's, and she goes, yeah, this is Kevin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin looks a little bloom because he didn't can't know fishing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, my husband, he's also the champion of bowling, which is his second, and then this is my daughter, Kim.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I always love this actress as a mother, because I loved her and the lost boys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not only that I like her and the lost boys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every single one of my senior pop up in a movie, and she's a mother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, man, she's such a great mom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is just her as a mother trying to be there for someone that she just met and try to show him, hey, look, this is my family and I would like you to partly be part of this family and maybe you might actually get a picture with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do like how she said that this is my daughter Kim and then all of a sudden his face just melts over Kim and how beautiful Kim is and then the he knew it from that right then and there they fell in love with her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is that when he was in a house, he gave him clothes to wear, and how he had struggled to put on the clothes, but I think the clothes symbolized him, his attempt to assimilate to the rest of the world, because now he's not, you don't see his black leather clothing and that was the thing I've met just like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He pulls these clothes over his is leather clothing, I'll like, and because he doesn't know any better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, well, maybe that's his skin or it's something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that was one of the things that I was wondering is that is that does that mean he was make it the whole time and now he's putting on clothes like he feels like he's naked, but he's not naked maybe this is actually how he feels like that he should be We're using everybody else by clothes and there don't have they're not covering up anything else of who they are, but he's got you know what you make a good point though about the colorization earlier, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like he's trying to fit into the society that he's now in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess to be like them, just as get this, we actually, you and I review short circuit, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're Johnny five wanted to be human.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we ended up dressing up like a human, just as it works, also trying to do the same thing and trying to fit in some size.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Johnny, did you do that in search of a short circuit too?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Short circuit too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No did I do in a short circuit?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I think you did dress up as a cowboy one time.

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[UNKNOWN]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't, there's a little bit of a deeper thing here going on here, but you're absolutely right though, maybe it's just him trying to fit into society and think, oh, this is who I'm supposed to be right right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, also pay a gave him the clothes so it's like this is this is what you're supposed to do this she wants him to look normal she she's actually introducing the concept of a revelation to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like there are so many things that he doesn't understand like what he was trying to explain bowling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't get it right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was trying to here's like words that he hadn't heard before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, bowling, you know, right, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, he, she would have to skip that because he wasn't getting it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you also see her whole entire messages are all lit up because of her bringing ever back, because I call them pigs fake friends because they're going to hurt now because she brought a new guy into.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that's so funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the first thing is funny is that

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they were running and screaming away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's more like when they saw her driving outward, they just noticed that she had a dude and they just got excited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It running into the house that they can call each other and then find out who this dude is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when she was home, there was a crowd of women that were at her, like in the around her house basically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was thinking to myself, these are some nosy bitches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they're very freaking nosy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all-erably, Mozi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No appear on the pale.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what happens when you move into like small suburban neighborhoods.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's in each other's business and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially these women is like, I'm at you at the corner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even Joyce and everybody else is over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then remember, Joyce is just flinging clothes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to find something and like, wait, you're just going on the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like Edward is going to be in takes car after they just drove all that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All that way back to our house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's pretty extravagant day if you think about this kind of an exhausting day is like, hey, could have died, she doesn't know her, she could have actually still be up there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dad, nobody wouldn't actually know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, because yeah, that was the thing when all the women they had gotten excited and they wanted to go over there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the things that happened was that Helen that the woman that said that she wasn't going to buy any A bond from her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For our most of the first part of moving and she pulled the curls that curlers out, so she can be resentable to go outside and meet this whoever it was that was that pegs house right because it was like, well, have you heard from peg?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not, not since the crack of dawn this morning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, and then at the dinner table, we have the father sitting there, we had the brother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the brother wants to bring Edward to show and tell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Edward is actually having a hard time eating his food.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No one's helping the poor guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You throw it there with a pee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A stuck on his honest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One team of his scissors, I think, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's kind of bothering with his hands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the poor guy only had one pee, probably for dinner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And also Alan Arkin, who's just amazing, he was completely not to log basically throughout the home will be never really getting overly excited, not nearly all that concerned that his wife just bought a strange boy to their home and a strange boy with giant sharp implements where his fingers are supposed to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: not really can't just totally accept and just completely relaxed about this situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like even their son was kind of like surprised and then later on when the daughter comes home she's in shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, but it's like he's completely nonchalant about this situation and that was just an amazing way to play a character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right because he's like this husband that just comes home and it's just like to see his wife and his kids right and it's like this is like all normal for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay, take just brought home a guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's perfectly normal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't right right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, just having a regular conversation, just, you know, that's like an icebreaker question, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do love him as the husband where he's just, you know, just trying to be the best he could do as a father figure, probably to for Edward just as pig is in a sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it shows that he trusts pay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he doesn't really question that she brought this boy home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he immediately starts to give at least this weird advice is fatherly advice to Edward right so it's so funny, especially at the movie progresses the East constantly giving his advice to Edward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought that was your two because I thought some of those moments were actually pretty funny there's something charming about that attitude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Dick is sure anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just very charming attitude to have to wear somebody's like not being judged mental just taking a man for who we is and just trying to be there for somebody, you know, has ever been taught right and wrong, just trying to show him, hey, look, you're safe here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so also humanization, which really funny is that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The bed that peaked chooses to put him in is her daughter's bed and her daughter has a water bed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He immediately accidentally punctures it was able to save the day by just putting like a doll on top of the puncture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was stuff animal plushy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the little stuff animal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now here's the thing, I've had a water bed and I can tell you that that's not going to work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you're not going to be able to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: just put something a doll over the puncture and stop it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the way he punctured it like as big as it was, it shouldn't have been like shooting out, not just, not just pooling at the surface of the bed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I understand it's, this is a fable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can accept that he's able to stop the leak with the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: with the little stuffed animal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the problem is that why would you choose to put a man with scissors for hands and a water bed?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And especially you had another bed available.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It you could have put him in your son's room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your son thinks the kid is cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you could have been in that room when you had a regular bed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, now you put him in a water bed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm on top of that, though, man, they couldn't even put him in that, you know, how once he sees Kim and they bring him down to the basement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why can't I just be in a limit of basement?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's when you would naturally put somebody like that, but unless they were thinking, well, you know, he stayed up in the attic all those years, maybe he might feel like the basement is just as it is as the attic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that she just instinctively wanted to put them someplace where he might be comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe she figured, oh yeah, the water bed is very comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's put them in that water bed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But still, it's a water bed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has scissors for hands.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing that really saved them like one of the questions you asked at the beginning is how does he sleep in a water bed?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or how does he sleep at all?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's a given that he's in a Tomaton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he sleeps in a very peculiar position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, in a particular way, it's awkward for a human, but for a robot, not not a very difficult thing to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was just his pose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like he slept like a playing a praying mat to sling down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see, he slept like a machine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like a robot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like, we're not even sure if he...

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[SPEAKER_00]: really slept.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just assumed a position and probably just doubt back his awareness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably that happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He comes home now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my first initial thought was, there should be headphones around this wherever she is if she's coming into town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, mom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, I'm coming into town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come back early from my camera trip or I'm on my way home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm going to be a little late coming home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Han, guess what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We picked up this guy named Edward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked up in this castle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's actually in your room right now, but let me try and get him to move out of your room, so that way you'll be alright when you come home and you won't get freaked out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a possibility, but there's really no reason for her to call home is like a turn home She's not going back to somebody else's place As a teenager, I was taught to call my parents whenever I'm on my way home and when I'm late before when I'm leaving and when I'm on my way home This is the 90 so my thing is this Come on, just call your mom say hey, look mom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on my way

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there was no phone call or anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She goes home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's going to go ahead and sleep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's getting undressed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Edward sitting there in the background.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden, she notices in the mirror.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's Edward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All awkward issues.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, because she screams, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's scared.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He must be scared.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's scared.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't know what to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he loses control of his fingers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he starts slicing up her water bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It basically causes a flood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've had a situation like that before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a situation where my son Zachary, he stabbed the water bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I told his story many times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, actually, this is back when he was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: five years old or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Max and younger than that is before he went to school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You still in diapers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like four or three or four years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was very young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then at first,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was diving at what needles we never saw him do it, but it's like we would see needles in the bed, like pens, like push pens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We would see these pushpins in the bed and we would see these tiny little holes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, somebody's somebody stabbing a water bed with pushpins and it was like, and I didn't think that was the moment like I didn't do further investigation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just took the pens out of the bed and used the small patches to seal the leaks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when they were sleeping and I wake up,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and I see Zachary pull a steak knife out of the bed and it's huge boom of water that shoots up because I'm in the bed and then I start chasing him down the hallway and actually it's like I got a choose between catching him or trying to stop the lead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As I was chasing him, he threw the knife like it was a murder weapon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It ran to his mother, then I had to go and deal with the water bed like spewing water all over the place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was it was a thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was an orgy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been I've been at a friend's house in the early 90s, where everybody had in water beds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I definitely understand that struggle when plus they also have to do something else to patch up the water bed and then try and get the water bed back to level again right right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got a whole ordeal and a whole shore about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got a match with the water bed and then you got to refill the water bed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a pain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're not even that comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why they fell out of fashion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we can see why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, so now we can actually have that happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He goes downstairs and can basically the father goes, well, I guess you have been well, I guess you haven't been up in the castle long and everything to learn about teenage girls.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He goes, here you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ed, he goes, what's his lemonade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He starts business around with the glass support guy can't even have a drink.

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[SPEAKER_01]: or anything, but the father still talk, you know, the glands that glance swell up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just having a casual conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like his daughter is freaked out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got a walkin' up to have to deal with the situation because they got to find someplace else for Edward asleep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he just casually just starts pouring quote-unquote lemonade and pours Edward to glass and Edward is struggling with this glass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just casually drinking there finally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like everything you do is so casual and so he casually grabs a straw, casually puts it in Edwards glass so that Edrick could have a drink.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love this though, the back of the board, and then he understands Ed is also just as freaked out as Kim is though, too, probably.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to comp his nerves now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I like how the test position is where now you have peg talking to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The poor thing, he was just up in the castle by himself, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought it would be a good idea to take him in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I like how Peggy's like, well, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just need to go on downstairs and shake the man's hand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She goes, shake his hand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, not literally, shake his hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she goes, hi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, because he's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's like, he didn't even get drunk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got high, oh, I'll go home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it changed his behavior so drastically that he actually becomes the thing, like a frightening thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like he's actually a frightening figure now because he's drunk off Lacko Hall and then he falls over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I wonder, if he's a machine, what is that doing to his hardware on the inside of him?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it like turning the insides of his gears?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, what is the deal indeed?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can eat food, it stands for even that maybe there's a way that he can convert food to energy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what does that mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can talk about in some instances, some there are some forms of alcohol that can be used as fuel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe that that's going up the fuel works or some some kind of way or maybe it's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why his personality changes drastically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why he falls over because he can't really process the whole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the same thing as it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I will go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, you go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now what you're saying, the message of thing is that he calls it lemonade, like Bill calls it lemonade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the message of thing about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It really is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is messed up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the next day he goes over Joyce's house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: just what you like some fresh lemonade lemonade right right immediately though he not now he he has a reverse Pavlov's dog reaction to lemonade and instead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we have to get your master like you know right right right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I was thinking, they said, well, if you're a machine, then why you're trying to pukes, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, maybe it's just a flashback of him having that moment and just having a PDSD maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's, I think that's what that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's PTSD all the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, as our neighbors are curious about their new house guests, the bugs throw at neighborhood barbecue welcoming Edward, most of the neighbors are fascinated by Edward and be friend him, except for the religious fanatic as Moralda and Kim's boyfriend Jim ever repays the neighborhood for their kindness by trimming their hedges and into.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Long, long hard, the leads, this leads him to discover he can groom dogs here and later he styles the hair of the neighborhood woman, one of the neighbors joys offers to help Edward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Open his own here salon, while scouting a location, Joyce attempts to deduce him, but scares him away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Joyce lies to the women that he attempted to deduce.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Reducing their trust in him, the bank denies Edward alone, as he does not have a background or financial history.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about the fact that these neighbors,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, they just come over to a house and say, Oh, yeah, you, you are went with time as a barbecue like what time should we come over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they choice is the one who's initiating this whole entire thing, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And put bills outside with after that whole entire deal with the religious person with those morality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, because she's like burning a nature or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot how she put it, but I forgot, yeah, I forgot most of her she should basically, she was warning everybody else about Edward, it basically how he's like, she didn't necessarily call him a spawner of St. and I don't think, but she basically references, she suggests that Edward is evil and everybody should stay away from him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but also too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, she does this too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She goes up to because Edward's actually, well, that's actually that's not at that point yet because he hasn't made the dinosaur or anything like that, but he's already made the dinosaur.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like how they do the dinosaur thing, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot when he yeah, forgot when he first starts doing it, because Bill is outside and he's cutting the hedges.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Edward starts imitating Bill, like cutting the hedges.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he just kind of goes, gets out of hand and creates his dinosaur.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't remember when that happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That happens before the barbecue because the dinosaur was up at that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that happens before the barbecue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at that point in time, he's already cutting the hedges out the family and stuff

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when the religious fanatic comes in there as Moral that then she comes around the house after she gets on harassing them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she tells the barbecue, oh, a burning of nature isn't that just lovely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what Joyce winds up saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they all just laugh at her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt bad for Peg though, because she's looking for a bell for help, because bell, bell, like she's writing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, that's the danger of being entirely too chill of a person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But all of a sudden, you didn't want to buy anything from this woman, but yeah, you want her to have a barbecue with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you want a pastor with a barbecue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, at least everybody brought stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's good thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Joyce brought her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot what she brought some some weird stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: people brought like whatever their specialty dishes were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So at the very least, Peg did do all the work, but there was this, this was something that they kind of just pushed up on her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you also have this other thing that happens as well, where now it's chairman at the dinner table, it's the his friend, you know, basically all the kids friends and, you know, he's cutting a roast and I like how they have like a little apron around him now.

59:43.317 --> 59:44.299
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right, right.

59:45.440 --> 59:51.709
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's the chef on the house and the friend goes, I don't think I should touch that because he used his hands.

59:52.516 --> 01:00:01.107
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, yeah, that was a dinner later on and then he actually drops it on Kim drops the roast on Kim's lap.

01:00:01.468 --> 01:00:01.768
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:00:02.589 --> 01:00:07.055
[SPEAKER_01]: And stuff, but yeah, we'll talk about that a little later, but I do like the barbecue scene.

01:00:07.075 --> 01:00:09.218
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the shish kebab was actually pretty funny.

01:00:09.699 --> 01:00:12.202
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you also have this other more veteran that comes in there.

01:00:12.222 --> 01:00:15.807
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't ever tell them that you haven't handicapped don't you ever tell them that.

01:00:15.787 --> 01:00:16.950
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, right.

01:00:17.391 --> 01:00:20.439
[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently because I think this guy was handicapped.

01:00:20.860 --> 01:00:22.424
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think he was on film with the leg.

01:00:22.965 --> 01:00:25.873
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he had a leg because remember he knocked on the leg and you can actually hear.

01:00:25.893 --> 01:00:27.838
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:28.207 --> 01:00:34.160
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, and so that that's kind of like foreshadowing something that happens later on in the film.

01:00:34.982 --> 01:00:38.770
[SPEAKER_00]: And because at this time, the whole neighborhood they love them.

01:00:38.790 --> 01:00:40.253
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all curious about them.

01:00:40.915 --> 01:00:44.543
[SPEAKER_00]: They all love that how different that he is.

01:00:44.583 --> 01:00:47.008
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's almost like a commentary on

01:00:47.140 --> 01:00:53.708
[SPEAKER_00]: No, we talked about earlier about how Tim Burton does have a lot of diversity in his movies.

01:00:53.748 --> 01:01:08.347
[SPEAKER_00]: But this is like an example of diversity in movies, like paradoxically, because this is how people react when they meet somebody who is different, who is fundamentally different than they are.

01:01:08.667 --> 01:01:10.870
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they're asking

01:01:10.850 --> 01:01:37.600
[SPEAKER_00]: like what might be stupid questions like the way Bill asked like when they first met it's like oh so you can see far away high in that house huh right you know sometimes people meet when people meet others from like when people from America meet other people from other countries they they'll start asking strange and stupid questions and then even as an American when you travel abroad people are asking strange and stupid questions about America right so

01:01:37.951 --> 01:01:38.812
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

01:01:39.112 --> 01:01:40.314
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of that going.

01:01:40.334 --> 01:01:51.728
[SPEAKER_00]: So everybody is curious about this new strange person that's in their neighborhood and I like how all these interactions happen at the barbecue.

01:01:52.769 --> 01:01:53.250
[SPEAKER_01]: I do too.

01:01:53.450 --> 01:01:54.411
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the interactions.

01:01:54.451 --> 01:01:55.492
[SPEAKER_01]: I also like the joking.

01:01:56.173 --> 01:02:00.759
[SPEAKER_01]: And everything too is like, hey, by guys and I, we're going to invite you to a card game.

01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:02.821
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to, but only one thing.

01:02:02.941 --> 01:02:03.502
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't cut.

01:02:03.542 --> 01:02:04.543
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:02:04.603 --> 01:02:04.964
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:02:04.984 --> 01:02:05.865
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:02:06.773 --> 01:02:10.319
[SPEAKER_00]: That was definitely a dad joke.

01:02:10.339 --> 01:02:11.400
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was a dad joke.

01:02:11.921 --> 01:02:15.647
[SPEAKER_01]: Then there was also where, um, What else was there?

01:02:15.687 --> 01:02:17.530
[SPEAKER_01]: There was also the veteran guy.

01:02:17.550 --> 01:02:18.692
[SPEAKER_01]: There was also the chick.

01:02:19.093 --> 01:02:20.094
[SPEAKER_01]: Chickabob thing.

01:02:20.595 --> 01:02:24.040
[SPEAKER_01]: And I like how everybody's feeding them the salad and stuff like that.

01:02:24.081 --> 01:02:24.321
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:02:24.381 --> 01:02:25.523
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's our and their stuff.

01:02:25.543 --> 01:02:26.284
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:02:26.264 --> 01:02:34.517
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Bill goes up to him and goes, and he goes, okay, soups up, and then here's Edward holding the shish kebab.

01:02:34.958 --> 01:02:36.841
[SPEAKER_01]: And he goes, oh, this is going to shoot you up.

01:02:37.242 --> 01:02:39.405
[SPEAKER_01]: And he goes, it is, it is.

01:02:39.786 --> 01:02:41.809
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a, you just need to stop taking things literally.

01:02:42.710 --> 01:02:43.351
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.

01:02:43.672 --> 01:02:48.660
[SPEAKER_01]: Then that night, he has that flashback of the inventor.

01:02:49.467 --> 01:02:56.107
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, played by Vincent Price, which I felt like was that that night, I was that during the barbecue.

01:02:56.348 --> 01:02:57.331
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody says something.

01:02:57.431 --> 01:02:59.357
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, cause them to have their flashback.

01:02:59.858 --> 01:03:02.025
[SPEAKER_01]: Pig actually gives him the flashback.

01:03:02.444 --> 01:03:09.613
[SPEAKER_01]: This gives him the flashback, remember whenever she's cutting open the, uh, the can and he sees the can.

01:03:09.793 --> 01:03:21.488
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it was right, right, right, they, she's cutting something open with a can opener and then that reminds him of when it took contraptions of the inventor's house and then I had this in my notes.

01:03:21.528 --> 01:03:28.958
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, is Edward actually flashing back to the time that he was in a machine to the point where he's like being the machine of opening cans.

01:03:28.938 --> 01:03:29.719
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.

01:03:29.739 --> 01:03:30.721
[SPEAKER_00]: That's when I thought too.

01:03:31.563 --> 01:03:35.991
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, was he a can opener before he was made into an atomic on?

01:03:36.592 --> 01:03:36.993
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:03:37.354 --> 01:03:39.778
[SPEAKER_00]: But know that thankfully that wasn't the case.

01:03:39.858 --> 01:03:44.888
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like he's flashing back to when they're basically the inventor was trying to teach him ethics.

01:03:45.589 --> 01:03:45.829
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:03:46.210 --> 01:03:49.296
[SPEAKER_01]: Because at this point, we actually see the cookies being made.

01:03:49.616 --> 01:03:52.161
[SPEAKER_01]: Whenever we see the can opener and stuff like that.

01:03:52.394 --> 01:04:16.208
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the flesh back I'm talking about is after the barbecue and everything he's you see the process in the book of how he's trying to turn this machine into a human and then he's trying to teach like you said economics trying to teach Edward about how to place his napkin on his lap and having manners and being respectful right.

01:04:17.723 --> 01:04:27.981
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that he starts off one way with ethics and then it seems like not that it's too much for it, but it was getting a little bit complicated.

01:04:28.001 --> 01:04:30.866
[SPEAKER_00]: So he switches to like a different type of lesson.

01:04:31.166 --> 01:04:33.771
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was more like a story or a fable or something like that.

01:04:34.693 --> 01:04:38.619
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, it was like just joke that he said that he was a book of poems.

01:04:39.020 --> 01:04:41.284
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's switched to poetry.

01:04:41.602 --> 01:04:47.517
[SPEAKER_01]: I just love how Vincent Price does this and this is actually Vincent Price's last movie that he was in and after because after this he died.

01:04:48.219 --> 01:04:50.023
[SPEAKER_01]: But I like it because boring.

01:04:50.284 --> 01:04:56.038
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and then yeah, yeah, yeah, and then you'll visit the book and you're okay.

01:04:56.118 --> 01:04:56.680
[SPEAKER_01]: You can laugh.

01:04:56.820 --> 01:04:57.602
[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny.

01:04:57.768 --> 01:04:58.710
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, right.

01:04:58.730 --> 01:05:02.858
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause this sees Edward kind of having a smile a little bit of a smile.

01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:06.024
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're trying to teach him how to have a motion, which is all right.

01:05:07.167 --> 01:05:12.958
[SPEAKER_01]: Something that I thought was interesting on him trying to teach him on a motion, because machines are not supposed to feel a motion chat GPT.

01:05:12.938 --> 01:05:29.209
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, I just thought that was interesting and then you know my other thing was this I'm like does he even have a penis like how is that supposed to work with him and can't be in the relationship that was so another thing in my mind now isn't about

01:05:31.028 --> 01:05:43.204
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like, some people was suggested that actual sexual population isn't necessary to have a loving relationship with the partner, some people might suggest that.

01:05:43.624 --> 01:05:55.500
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think that's entirely relevant unless it's, you know, somebody like Kim would not want to be in a relationship with somebody who

01:05:55.480 --> 01:05:57.645
[SPEAKER_00]: could not perform in that manner.

01:05:58.106 --> 01:05:58.467
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:05:58.487 --> 01:05:59.830
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't I don't know.

01:05:59.931 --> 01:06:00.472
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:06:00.552 --> 01:06:11.177
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of that's why I'm saying that I didn't understand the covering over his most of his body if that was actually his body or if that was clothing is like that's.

01:06:11.157 --> 01:06:13.460
[SPEAKER_00]: because he's like, like I said, he's a machine.

01:06:13.720 --> 01:06:18.005
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and it's like, I think that says, body does, it does make sense for me to be his body.

01:06:18.425 --> 01:06:18.926
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:06:19.046 --> 01:06:20.588
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't seem like he ever takes it off.

01:06:20.608 --> 01:06:24.953
[SPEAKER_00]: It apparently he doesn't expel waste, like, biological beings.

01:06:25.333 --> 01:06:27.636
[SPEAKER_00]: So, there's no need for him to take it off apparently.

01:06:28.417 --> 01:06:30.459
[SPEAKER_00]: So, it doesn't seem, I don't think he ever sweat.

01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:35.885
[SPEAKER_00]: So, no, it's like he's not like he's suffering under that covering.

01:06:35.905 --> 01:06:40.911
[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's like, I guess this is something that we're not meant to know.

01:06:42.612 --> 01:07:00.572
[SPEAKER_01]: But then we have the whole thing with like I said at the dinner table with Jim because I was setting up that establishment of the gym is rich, he's a rich douchebag who has everything all except the car and I like how bills like well, you know, that's good though it sets up character for yourself and everything right, right.

01:07:01.693 --> 01:07:11.404
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's actually trying to be a father figure to Jim and Jim is just not having it.

01:07:11.384 --> 01:07:12.265
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:07:12.405 --> 01:07:14.048
[SPEAKER_01]: And then here's back.

01:07:14.228 --> 01:07:16.391
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, wouldn't be great just to be that rich.

01:07:17.172 --> 01:07:17.292
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:07:17.312 --> 01:07:17.592
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:07:17.692 --> 01:07:17.953
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:07:18.033 --> 01:07:18.253
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:07:18.373 --> 01:07:18.614
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:07:19.235 --> 01:07:23.460
[SPEAKER_01]: So she's being invious and she even owns up to the fact that she's being in the of his parents.

01:07:24.121 --> 01:07:24.442
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:07:24.522 --> 01:07:24.702
[SPEAKER_01]: So too.

01:07:25.443 --> 01:07:33.354
[SPEAKER_01]: And then at this point, we then after that it goes into him doing the trimming for other people, the Bell Arena.

01:07:33.394 --> 01:07:36.518
[SPEAKER_01]: We have all those other lawn things that he's doing.

01:07:36.618 --> 01:07:41.104
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it goes into the fact of,

01:07:41.590 --> 01:07:44.953
[SPEAKER_01]: I like how Bill was like, well, you need to have a job.

01:07:45.834 --> 01:07:50.718
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, I'll actually know, not that he needs a job that he needs to start charging people forward.

01:07:51.099 --> 01:07:54.982
[SPEAKER_00]: And she says, and like, Peg says, well, he's getting paid in cookies.

01:07:55.002 --> 01:07:57.624
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, you can't pay bills with cookies.

01:07:57.644 --> 01:07:59.506
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't buy a car with cookies.

01:07:59.546 --> 01:08:10.416
[SPEAKER_00]: He needs to start charging from that's why one of the things where they start talking about having, well, this is after he starts doing people's hair, but just like, one day,

01:08:10.396 --> 01:08:16.542
[SPEAKER_00]: He's doing the hedges and then a dog walks by and then he starts sniffing dog and now the dog looks amazing.

01:08:18.063 --> 01:08:18.964
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, Frank's pool.

01:08:19.264 --> 01:08:40.403
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I like the progress and it's like he's just suddenly he's cutting everybody's he's a dog rumor after that and he's doing he's cutting everybody's dog and not just regular dog ruin, which is like fancy for dog grooming and it's amazing the precision that he can cut these dogs hair without stabbing them that's remarkable and then

01:08:40.383 --> 01:08:49.633
[SPEAKER_00]: after he does a dog roaming, it progresses into them, him cutting women's hair and I forgot would.

01:08:50.103 --> 01:08:51.524
[SPEAKER_00]: where the progression was.

01:08:51.865 --> 01:08:53.286
[SPEAKER_00]: But then he just starts cutting hair.

01:08:53.326 --> 01:08:55.768
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, no, actually, I think Peg, not Peg.

01:08:55.828 --> 01:08:58.230
[SPEAKER_00]: Joyce, Joyce, can you cut my hair?

01:08:59.532 --> 01:09:00.833
[SPEAKER_00]: And he says, yes.

01:09:01.393 --> 01:09:02.114
[SPEAKER_00]: And he starts cutting.

01:09:02.134 --> 01:09:04.176
[SPEAKER_00]: And then she has this sexual experience.

01:09:04.496 --> 01:09:07.639
[SPEAKER_01]: This orgasm on the chair and this launch chair.

01:09:08.660 --> 01:09:10.542
[SPEAKER_00]: Just from getting a haircut from Ed.

01:09:10.602 --> 01:09:18.709
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was hilarious.

01:09:19.027 --> 01:09:31.038
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, very sexual, but I never knew a person that got their hair cut and was like, that's demulated to the fact that's right, right, then again, it's Johnny Depp cutting your hair.

01:09:31.178 --> 01:09:34.386
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can actually understand why you would actually have that orgasm.

01:09:34.518 --> 01:09:49.827
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know because he never actually touches her he's just I mean maybe he's he asked him a just her head with the side of his blades so there's a little bit of that but it's like if you actually.

01:09:50.380 --> 01:10:01.991
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to get an experience from somebody cutting your hair, he's like, you know, when a barber cuts your hair, sometimes he has to palm your face a little bit to move it from side to side of wherever he needs to move it in order to cut the hair.

01:10:02.091 --> 01:10:16.024
[SPEAKER_00]: So, or maybe if somebody's washing your hair, because women get to get their hair washed when they get their hair done, it's like hair care when a woman gets it, it's a very hands-on thing.

01:10:16.544 --> 01:10:19.307
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I guess from that perspective,

01:10:19.473 --> 01:10:31.915
[SPEAKER_00]: With somebody's gotten their hands all over your hair, I can see maybe getting excited over to get having a sexual experience over it, but with Ed is different because he's not actually touching her so.

01:10:32.336 --> 01:10:38.106
[SPEAKER_00]: So at least not in that way, so.

01:10:38.795 --> 01:10:43.303
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, maybe it's just the sensation of the sniffing that got her excited.

01:10:43.623 --> 01:10:44.925
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe because that's what it was.

01:10:45.226 --> 01:10:55.784
[SPEAKER_01]: Her feet completely curls up and then finally get over to pig and everybody else and they're not having the same reaction as as Joyce or anything like that.

01:10:56.345 --> 01:11:03.958
[SPEAKER_01]: So Joyce has like a five star gives and we're probably a five star rating while other people

01:11:03.938 --> 01:11:22.993
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if she definitely gave it to the assistant, whatever the highest possible rating if it was a five she gave my five it was a 10 she would have gave my 10 she gave my five star and she gave my huge tip like she's very speaking of tips.

01:11:23.345 --> 01:11:23.806
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:11:24.246 --> 01:11:28.854
[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is that they didn't ask for a specific style.

01:11:28.874 --> 01:11:32.699
[SPEAKER_00]: They basically trusted him to make the style for them.

01:11:33.080 --> 01:11:38.308
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like is purely his artistic expression, right.

01:11:38.508 --> 01:11:44.037
[SPEAKER_00]: What he did for these women, which is amazing, because no one was like Andy Warhol with scissors.

01:11:44.017 --> 01:11:48.467
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know because I don't know if Andy Woha did art for other people.

01:11:49.389 --> 01:11:56.966
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, he was for, it's like, if you normally, when you commission an artist, you were commissioned in name to do a specific type of work.

01:11:57.026 --> 01:11:58.851
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I want a painting of this.

01:11:58.891 --> 01:11:59.352
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to paint.

01:11:59.472 --> 01:12:01.637
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm painting of a Campbell suit, Cam.

01:12:01.757 --> 01:12:02.599
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I'm,

01:12:03.001 --> 01:12:05.985
[SPEAKER_00]: and a painting of a mural of Martin Luther King.

01:12:06.186 --> 01:12:07.968
[SPEAKER_00]: You want a specific thing done.

01:12:08.449 --> 01:12:16.000
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like you contact the artists and say, we're just paint what you want to paint, or just sculpt what you want to sculpt, but just cut the hair in the old type of way.

01:12:16.020 --> 01:12:18.303
[SPEAKER_00]: People are very particular about their hair.

01:12:18.703 --> 01:12:25.373
[SPEAKER_00]: So that they trust that I'm enough to just let him express himself artistically and what he thought would look best for the women.

01:12:25.673 --> 01:12:27.456
[SPEAKER_00]: That was remarkable.

01:12:27.892 --> 01:12:28.513
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

01:12:28.654 --> 01:12:30.999
[SPEAKER_01]: It was his own artistic flavor to it.

01:12:31.500 --> 01:12:37.013
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the weird hair styles, even the cop mentions that later on as well.

01:12:37.053 --> 01:12:42.525
[SPEAKER_01]: You get spelled out, but I do like the fact that they bring it back up again about how.

01:12:43.180 --> 01:12:47.766
[SPEAKER_01]: about how much of a character he actually is in this own world that he's in.

01:12:48.446 --> 01:12:48.707
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

01:12:48.727 --> 01:12:49.928
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he's a creative.

01:12:50.169 --> 01:12:54.053
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is actually, if you're thinking about it, he's actually a creative.

01:12:54.614 --> 01:12:54.734
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:12:54.754 --> 01:12:54.914
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:12:55.014 --> 01:12:55.255
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:12:55.315 --> 01:12:55.575
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:12:55.996 --> 01:13:00.020
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but yeah, I definitely like that.

01:13:00.081 --> 01:13:06.188
[SPEAKER_01]: And then while scouting for a location, Joyce attempts to seduce him, but but scares him away.

01:13:06.268 --> 01:13:11.955
[SPEAKER_01]: Joyce lies to the woman that he attempted to seduce her.

01:13:12.678 --> 01:13:34.652
[SPEAKER_01]: They go into this beauty salon and just an over here we're going to have the cosmetics right here and I like how Edward is imitating her right I guess you know, pay cash kindness yeah she does and then she goes this over here is where I'm going to stand and greet the customers.

01:13:35.392 --> 01:13:37.038
[SPEAKER_01]: So ever it's going to be doing all the work.

01:13:37.379 --> 01:13:39.446
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, she's doing the reservations and stuff.

01:13:39.948 --> 01:13:40.149
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:13:40.169 --> 01:13:40.329
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:13:40.369 --> 01:13:42.979
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's important work too because they would know how to do that.

01:13:43.500 --> 01:13:44.865
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he can't even answer the phone.

01:13:44.905 --> 01:13:45.688
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

01:13:45.719 --> 01:14:00.412
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, he can't actually write in appointments because from the time that they're adapting, it was pencil and paper, pen and paper, and an appointment book, and answering the phones and doing all of the customer relations is many things that he cannot do.

01:14:00.612 --> 01:14:02.614
[SPEAKER_00]: He really is kind of a handicap person.

01:14:02.894 --> 01:14:06.878
[SPEAKER_00]: And the only thing that he could do with confidence is just cut the hair.

01:14:07.258 --> 01:14:15.085
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, yeah, I don't begrudge her for taking on a position as being customer relations

01:14:15.284 --> 01:14:24.840
[SPEAKER_01]: And at first, I'm like, okay, I like the fact that she's trying to help him build his clientele and trying to be there, but she always has like a hint of gender and motive behind everything that she did when.

01:14:25.401 --> 01:14:25.842
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:14:25.862 --> 01:14:28.446
[SPEAKER_01]: And so she goes and this is in the back room.

01:14:28.486 --> 01:14:34.236
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the store room and she wants to put basically pushing the poor guy down on this chair.

01:14:34.276 --> 01:14:35.258
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:14:35.999 --> 01:14:39.144
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, and what do you think about this one?

01:14:39.445 --> 01:14:41.308
[SPEAKER_01]: There's, oh, I like that one.

01:14:41.474 --> 01:14:45.300
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it was scarves that she was gone to the town.

01:14:45.480 --> 01:14:45.780
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:14:45.861 --> 01:14:46.101
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:14:47.423 --> 01:14:54.654
[SPEAKER_00]: And she, though, yes, she's trying one of these scars that trying to find out what, what he liked the best.

01:14:55.375 --> 01:14:56.957
[SPEAKER_00]: And let's do it.

01:14:57.358 --> 01:14:58.480
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:14:58.640 --> 01:14:58.900
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:14:59.000 --> 01:14:59.261
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:15:00.222 --> 01:15:02.926
[SPEAKER_00]: And then she starts unbuttoning our shirt.

01:15:04.408 --> 01:15:05.330
[SPEAKER_00]: Climb on top of them.

01:15:05.350 --> 01:15:09.456
[SPEAKER_00]: So what I want to know is, what did, how would you

01:15:09.723 --> 01:15:18.735
[SPEAKER_00]: I was six or six so what did six year old John think of this how this woman was climate top of Ed.

01:15:19.716 --> 01:15:23.501
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, six year old me is thinking, why is this woman timing on top of him?

01:15:23.702 --> 01:15:24.943
[SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?

01:15:24.983 --> 01:15:31.512
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm like, well, maybe he got freaked out because he fell backwards.

01:15:31.711 --> 01:15:32.752
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how I thought.

01:15:32.812 --> 01:15:36.255
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he was freaked out because he felt backwards, right, right, right.

01:15:36.616 --> 01:15:37.957
[SPEAKER_01]: I was not thinking anything sexual.

01:15:37.977 --> 01:15:42.702
[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking, okay, this woman just climbed on top of him and he fell backwards.

01:15:42.822 --> 01:15:45.084
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I freak out six year old me or something.

01:15:45.104 --> 01:15:46.585
[SPEAKER_01]: You're all me is the right.

01:15:46.665 --> 01:15:51.650
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I know I would freak out someone climbed on top on top of me and made me fall backwards.

01:15:52.211 --> 01:15:52.851
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.

01:15:52.932 --> 01:15:53.272
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:15:53.312 --> 01:15:54.273
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was thinking.

01:15:55.214 --> 01:15:57.516
[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny that you should say that because.

01:15:58.340 --> 01:16:01.204
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you shouldn't be thinking of anything sexual at six year old.

01:16:01.224 --> 01:16:02.205
[SPEAKER_00]: That would have been weird.

01:16:06.391 --> 01:16:12.379
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she was definitely trying to jump his bones not not even knowing if he had bones to jump.

01:16:12.999 --> 01:16:17.746
[SPEAKER_00]: And so she's climb on top of him and the chair falls back and I think that really did free.

01:16:18.046 --> 01:16:25.596
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was freaked out that Joyce was coming on to him, but at the same time, because I think

01:16:26.369 --> 01:16:29.654
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he seems to have the mentality of a six year old.

01:16:30.074 --> 01:16:30.955
[SPEAKER_00]: So, right?

01:16:31.857 --> 01:16:36.042
[SPEAKER_00]: So he just comes to you as you were at the time that you were watching it.

01:16:36.062 --> 01:16:40.949
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's confused too, and so she climbs a top of him.

01:16:40.969 --> 01:16:43.272
[SPEAKER_00]: The chair goes, and so he's freaked out with that.

01:16:43.372 --> 01:16:50.262
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he's also freaked out when the chair goes backwards, but he's able to take that opportunity to escape.

01:16:51.163 --> 01:16:51.904
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:16:51.884 --> 01:17:17.082
[SPEAKER_01]: because here's the thing if you think about like this though man like he he's not thinking about the sex right he's thinking of this woman's trying to help him or anything right and she's thinking about sex like 24 seven like right she's a nympho but you know she he wasn't running out of the store she thinks that he turned her down he didn't turn her down he just didn't know what the hell to do right right right right you got freaked out because she came on too hard on him

01:17:17.163 --> 01:17:37.787
[SPEAKER_01]: And she, especially when it goes into the thing next door, the place next door and everything and goes yeah choice took me took me to the new hair salon thing and you know the husband is like that's good.

01:17:37.767 --> 01:17:41.252
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she took me in the background, but she took her clothes off.

01:17:41.452 --> 01:17:41.993
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.

01:17:42.774 --> 01:17:44.176
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right, right, right, right.

01:17:44.196 --> 01:17:50.946
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody else is looking at everybody like totally glossed over that she took her clothes on.

01:17:51.266 --> 01:18:00.019
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think was that it was such an outlander thing for him to say that they must have just assumed that he's he was confused about what he saw.

01:18:00.499 --> 01:18:03.724
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he can't possibly just be describing her.

01:18:03.704 --> 01:18:06.128
[SPEAKER_00]: Joyce taking off her clothes, it must have been something else.

01:18:06.549 --> 01:18:09.353
[SPEAKER_00]: So they just totally like ignored what he was saying.

01:18:09.814 --> 01:18:15.063
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Kim and Cameron probably were just shocked at the fact that something like this happened.

01:18:16.145 --> 01:18:22.455
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the, yeah, and even if you look at the faces because I first I'm like, okay, maybe everybody's ignoring it, but then I looked at the faces.

01:18:23.347 --> 01:18:35.847
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see the thing about Kim and Cameron, they, it's not their place to tell, to basically tell Edward was going on, or to maybe they're concerned, but it's like, it's a really not their place to act.

01:18:35.867 --> 01:18:45.261
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if anybody was gonna talk to Joyce about what happened, because that's the next step of like if you believe and take them out as word, then next step would be to go to Joyce like, well, what happened with you and Ed?

01:18:45.562 --> 01:18:47.885
[SPEAKER_00]: But that would be either bill or peg to do.

01:18:48.186 --> 01:18:48.687
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

01:18:48.707 --> 01:18:50.890
[SPEAKER_00]: That's their prerogative, their prerogative.

01:18:50.870 --> 01:18:51.972
[SPEAKER_00]: Bill don't care.

01:18:52.052 --> 01:18:52.814
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, that's good.

01:18:52.854 --> 01:18:53.756
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's good.

01:18:53.796 --> 01:18:56.061
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know it's amazing that he does it.

01:18:56.121 --> 01:18:56.822
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.

01:18:56.862 --> 01:19:09.688
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking that maybe it's such an outrageous thing to say that that he just kind of glossed over, but I think this kind of speaks to something even darker like you have a lot of families where like a family member.

01:19:09.808 --> 01:19:10.650
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, whoa.

01:19:10.630 --> 01:19:29.023
[SPEAKER_00]: sexually abused like the children or something like that, like a uncle or a cousin or something like that, you hear stories of these children being abused or whatever and they try to go and tell their parents and their parents to tell them, well, that's not what happened because they don't want to believe that their cousin or their brother or had abused their child.

01:19:29.724 --> 01:19:30.225
[SPEAKER_00]: So.

01:19:31.049 --> 01:19:35.213
[SPEAKER_00]: this happening in Edward Siserhand, kind of speaks at that dynamics.

01:19:35.253 --> 01:19:41.418
[SPEAKER_00]: That thing that sometimes happened in families where Bill just kind of ignores it and it's like, oh, that did really happen.

01:19:41.438 --> 01:19:45.982
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't say it out loud, but his entire mannerism kind of says that.

01:19:46.723 --> 01:19:46.843
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:19:47.664 --> 01:19:49.766
[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody's like, this is not normal.

01:19:50.086 --> 01:19:54.430
[SPEAKER_01]: And even when Peg is looking at him, like, what the hell is wrong with you?

01:19:54.890 --> 01:19:56.372
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of look, right.

01:19:56.792 --> 01:20:01.056
[SPEAKER_01]: She's not saying it, but she's thinking it, just the body language and so are the kids.

01:20:01.036 --> 01:20:02.238
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, as well.

01:20:03.300 --> 01:20:13.541
[SPEAKER_01]: So now we have now jealous of Kim's attraction to Edward Jim to just Edward picked that pick that lock on his parents home to obtain a van for Jim and Kim.

01:20:13.921 --> 01:20:20.234
[SPEAKER_01]: Edward agrees, but when he picks the lock, a burglar alarm is triggered, Jim fleets and Edward's arrested.

01:20:20.535 --> 01:20:22.318
[SPEAKER_01]: The fleets determine that his

01:20:22.298 --> 01:20:27.030
[SPEAKER_01]: period of isolation has left Edward without any sense of reality or common sense.

01:20:27.431 --> 01:20:32.565
[SPEAKER_01]: Edward takes responsibility for the robbery telling Kim he did it because he she asked him to do it.

01:20:33.086 --> 01:20:39.362
[SPEAKER_01]: Quince and Lee Edward is alienated by those in the neighborhood except for the Boggs family.

01:20:40.658 --> 01:20:51.273
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to also going to talk about the fact that the bank also denies him thing because remember with the husband says because well, where you're a criteria, you should be able to get along.

01:20:51.353 --> 01:20:56.300
[SPEAKER_01]: You should be able to be able to get everything you need.

01:20:56.641 --> 01:20:58.083
[SPEAKER_01]: He has no such a security card.

01:20:58.183 --> 01:20:59.485
[SPEAKER_01]: So he doesn't really exist.

01:20:59.965 --> 01:21:01.808
[SPEAKER_01]: He has no collateral.

01:21:01.928 --> 01:21:03.190
[SPEAKER_01]: He has nothing.

01:21:03.170 --> 01:21:15.373
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, he doesn't have anything to show that he could pay the bank back like the husband was thinking that well because he's so skilled then he should easily be able to go and get the loan, but

01:21:15.488 --> 01:21:26.904
[SPEAKER_00]: When reality hits and he goes to the bank and asks for the loan is like it's him and pig and they're off the light and, you know, they basically got what little paperwork they could get in order.

01:21:27.465 --> 01:21:35.075
[SPEAKER_00]: But he doesn't have much to show for it like you said he doesn't have any documentation that actually shows that he exists and he doesn't have a credit history.

01:21:35.456 --> 01:21:41.344
[SPEAKER_00]: So the bank and I just loan because it's like, it's like, it's almost like giving.

01:21:41.324 --> 01:21:44.992
[SPEAKER_00]: money to a ghost and, you know, the ghost could just disappear.

01:21:45.052 --> 01:21:49.401
[SPEAKER_00]: So they don't, he just doesn't have enough trust built with the bank.

01:21:49.862 --> 01:21:59.282
[SPEAKER_00]: And with these times reflected, so this kind of reflects the before, I think it's before 1989, there was no credit report.

01:21:59.431 --> 01:22:14.634
[SPEAKER_00]: So people, when they would go and get loan to a bank, they would just basically go on like you're not, since you didn't have a credit history, I guess you would have to go with the bills that you paid or stuff like that to show that you're a responsible person.

01:22:14.674 --> 01:22:23.768
[SPEAKER_00]: You would have to have your paystubs, so they can repay the loan.

01:22:25.165 --> 01:22:27.108
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's what Edward was going through.

01:22:27.689 --> 01:22:28.831
[SPEAKER_01]: My thing was this though.

01:22:28.871 --> 01:22:36.102
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, well, Joyce was actually, I was wondering if they were going to use Joyce as a way to get what Edward needed.

01:22:36.543 --> 01:22:40.089
[SPEAKER_01]: And now that Joyce had the ability to be right.

01:22:40.349 --> 01:22:42.392
[SPEAKER_00]: That would have made more sense.

01:22:42.713 --> 01:22:47.901
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, it would have made the best sense if Bill had went in and asked for the loan.

01:22:48.682 --> 01:22:52.388
[SPEAKER_00]: And basically, well, Bill and I,

01:22:52.368 --> 01:23:03.627
[SPEAKER_00]: Edward would go in and they would ask what alone jointly and that should have worked because it's kind of weird for the time period as being depicted for a woman to go in and ask what alone.

01:23:04.047 --> 01:23:04.388
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:23:04.468 --> 01:23:06.652
[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at that before, that's right.

01:23:06.752 --> 01:23:07.613
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what's alone.

01:23:08.114 --> 01:23:08.294
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:23:08.314 --> 01:23:11.359
[SPEAKER_01]: And even when they go on the talk shows and stuff, she's actually there with them.

01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:12.661
[SPEAKER_01]: None of the family members are.

01:23:13.002 --> 01:23:14.224
[SPEAKER_01]: Kim's with Jim.

01:23:14.204 --> 01:23:15.887
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's stuff like that.

01:23:15.907 --> 01:23:17.330
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels weird.

01:23:17.370 --> 01:23:34.221
[SPEAKER_01]: It misconjoined in a sense of like if this if Edward's part of your family you wanted to be like a good morning America broadcast thing too of all the family being there just as the bank situation there should have been the husband and the wife and Edward

01:23:34.505 --> 01:23:34.906
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:23:34.986 --> 01:23:35.226
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:23:35.888 --> 01:23:36.288
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

01:23:36.388 --> 01:23:44.543
[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot at what point that the talk show happened, but that was one of my favorite parts because it had John Davidson.

01:23:44.643 --> 01:23:44.944
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:23:44.964 --> 01:23:46.166
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember John Davidson?

01:23:46.767 --> 01:23:50.995
[SPEAKER_00]: I barely knew some of this stuff, but it's like a fog.

01:23:50.975 --> 01:24:01.380
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so John Davidson is impactful for me because I didn't know him in any of the capacity except for one of the hosts of a show called that's incredible.

01:24:01.400 --> 01:24:06.132
[SPEAKER_00]: And so in that show it's kind of like a Ripley's believe it or not or it's kind of like, um,

01:24:06.112 --> 01:24:13.300
[SPEAKER_00]: There's really no show that's really comparable to that show, but they would show like people with crazy or amazing talent.

01:24:13.900 --> 01:24:24.111
[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes the people would show up on a show and do have these amazing abilities that they would do on a show like somebody who could type real good.

01:24:24.131 --> 01:24:30.398
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the closer you can come is like Johnny Carson and when he would bring someone on that had some kind of

01:24:30.378 --> 01:24:32.721
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what they would do on that incredible.

01:24:33.222 --> 01:24:37.008
[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes they would go out to the field and they would have videos or something like that.

01:24:37.128 --> 01:24:42.135
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of like if you took the Guinness Book of World Records and put it on television.

01:24:42.956 --> 01:24:44.338
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what that show was about.

01:24:44.358 --> 01:24:45.600
[SPEAKER_00]: And I used to watch the show all the time.

01:24:45.620 --> 01:24:47.723
[SPEAKER_00]: And apparently John Davidson was a singer.

01:24:48.244 --> 01:24:51.048
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he had any albums out, but he was sing on the show occasionally.

01:24:52.029 --> 01:24:52.209
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:24:52.229 --> 01:24:55.474
[SPEAKER_00]: So when I saw John Davidson on this movie, I was like,

01:24:56.872 --> 01:25:03.542
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's fully a capacity of being a TV show host because that's what he did.

01:25:03.582 --> 01:25:04.243
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he does.

01:25:05.185 --> 01:25:06.046
[SPEAKER_00]: That's his thing.

01:25:06.647 --> 01:25:06.827
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:25:06.867 --> 01:25:11.614
[SPEAKER_01]: And he goes over to the one woman and goes, you know, if you had hands, you could be just like everybody else.

01:25:11.755 --> 01:25:13.317
[SPEAKER_01]: I never goes, yeah, I know.

01:25:14.859 --> 01:25:15.300
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:25:15.320 --> 01:25:16.982
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:25:17.183 --> 01:25:18.144
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:25:18.164 --> 01:25:23.853
[SPEAKER_00]: I like how you said that it's like he left out no duh.

01:25:23.873 --> 01:25:23.993
[UNKNOWN]: Right.

01:25:24.884 --> 01:25:27.167
[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of like why I'm here, lady.

01:25:27.447 --> 01:25:28.568
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right, right.

01:25:28.648 --> 01:25:30.530
[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully it gets surgery after this.

01:25:30.971 --> 01:25:31.451
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.

01:25:31.491 --> 01:25:36.036
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because someone offers them, like they know a doctor at that scene in case like that.

01:25:36.337 --> 01:25:38.219
[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, well, he'd like to meet them.

01:25:39.580 --> 01:25:46.548
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that was, I like the interaction where people offer to help them out at the end of the heat would get home.

01:25:46.568 --> 01:25:52.815
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that one of the most pointed things that was said when that show was that,

01:25:53.639 --> 01:26:00.388
[SPEAKER_00]: somebody suggested that if you replace your scissors with natural hands, then you wouldn't be special anymore.

01:26:00.748 --> 01:26:03.872
[SPEAKER_00]: And Pat kind of spoke up and she said, well, he will always be special.

01:26:04.073 --> 01:26:06.656
[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that was, that was a great moment.

01:26:07.056 --> 01:26:07.417
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:26:07.437 --> 01:26:08.258
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was a great moment.

01:26:08.278 --> 01:26:10.561
[SPEAKER_01]: That's when we're immediately instincts came in to play.

01:26:10.581 --> 01:26:10.681
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:26:10.701 --> 01:26:10.962
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:26:11.302 --> 01:26:14.546
[SPEAKER_01]: I like how she gives him enough room to be able to handle his own cell.

01:26:14.987 --> 01:26:17.490
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she doesn't know how to handle himself.

01:26:17.570 --> 01:26:18.371
[SPEAKER_01]: She steps in.

01:26:18.391 --> 01:26:23.578
[SPEAKER_01]: So I like the

01:26:24.098 --> 01:26:27.502
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, well, Edward will always be special to us as a family.

01:26:27.923 --> 01:26:28.103
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:26:28.123 --> 01:26:32.308
[SPEAKER_01]: That, that, that, that still captures my heart that she did that.

01:26:32.668 --> 01:26:33.489
[SPEAKER_01]: That right, I'm sorry.

01:26:34.911 --> 01:26:35.271
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.

01:26:35.291 --> 01:26:35.652
[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.

01:26:35.672 --> 01:26:36.333
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:26:36.353 --> 01:26:36.673
[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.

01:26:36.973 --> 01:26:38.956
[SPEAKER_00]: I was, I was just saying.

01:26:38.976 --> 01:26:45.844
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I, I would just saying that he did not look at himself as being special.

01:26:46.645 --> 01:26:48.327
[SPEAKER_00]: He sees himself as being unfinished.

01:26:48.507 --> 01:26:53.413
[SPEAKER_00]: So when she, when they say or suggest that,

01:26:53.714 --> 01:27:09.327
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he would probably say something like, well, I'm not special, it's like I'm I'm actually unfinished, but he doesn't get a chance to express he doesn't have to say that or express that and that's when I came in and you know just said that she that he'll always be special.

01:27:09.593 --> 01:27:09.953
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:27:10.334 --> 01:27:14.480
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you accidentally electrocutes himself by touching the wire.

01:27:14.580 --> 01:27:22.231
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, because whenever I remember this, this is actually the part where one of the women said, so is there any one special in your life?

01:27:22.651 --> 01:27:27.478
[SPEAKER_01]: And just kind of daises and things about Kim and then at that moment, Kim is also thinking about him.

01:27:27.538 --> 01:27:28.519
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:27:28.539 --> 01:27:30.202
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the interconnection kind of thing.

01:27:30.702 --> 01:27:38.453
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he accidentally touches the microphone wire and he shocks and gets and and once again, another chair situation.

01:27:38.433 --> 01:28:05.875
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, right, yeah, if you were chairs and that's another issue where it's like he knows what he wants to say like somebody says if there's somebody special in your life, he knows exactly what he wants to say, but I think he has a sense of there being a sort of inappropriateness of saying that like a boundary line right right right right, right.

01:28:06.057 --> 01:28:26.192
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, like in the sense that if you're part of the family, then the woman that you're attracted to is it's kind of like your sister or maybe because she has a boyfriend, then he feels the inappropriate mess of trying to have expressing how he feels about her when she already has a boyfriend that that could be it too.

01:28:26.172 --> 01:28:26.713
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

01:28:26.773 --> 01:28:28.157
[SPEAKER_00]: That could be on both levels then.

01:28:28.618 --> 01:28:28.878
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:28:28.899 --> 01:28:29.139
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:28:29.700 --> 01:28:29.901
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:28:29.921 --> 01:28:37.579
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's multiple levels where it's like he enters a sense of confusion because he does because he doesn't have that much life experience.

01:28:37.860 --> 01:28:39.464
[SPEAKER_00]: So without that life experience.

01:28:40.386 --> 01:28:41.228
[SPEAKER_00]: He is.

01:28:42.119 --> 01:28:47.574
[SPEAKER_00]: He basically becomes confused and he doesn't know what to say at that moment.

01:28:47.594 --> 01:28:48.336
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, exactly.

01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:51.024
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's getting my desk.

01:28:51.285 --> 01:28:53.852
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be an editing nightmare for you.

01:28:54.333 --> 01:28:57.141
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be fun, trust me.

01:28:57.121 --> 01:29:10.557
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but no, I didn't you also have now we have Jim who tell tells Kim because remember he locked his I think either Kim locked her keys out of her house or Jim locked his keys out of his house.

01:29:11.018 --> 01:29:15.483
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we're just happens to be walking down the street or walking down the sidewalk.

01:29:16.264 --> 01:29:17.386
[SPEAKER_01]: And he lets them in.

01:29:17.626 --> 01:29:21.070
[SPEAKER_01]: Just wow, look at that and you didn't even leave a scratch.

01:29:21.050 --> 01:29:21.851
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:29:22.031 --> 01:29:23.574
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was Kim that was locked out.

01:29:23.614 --> 01:29:24.595
[SPEAKER_00]: She forgot the key thing.

01:29:24.856 --> 01:29:29.883
[SPEAKER_00]: He just goes and pokes up one of his sister fingers into the lock and just instantly opened the door.

01:29:29.923 --> 01:29:30.664
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:29:31.545 --> 01:29:36.332
[SPEAKER_01]: And then then get the idea of breaking into Jim's house.

01:29:36.453 --> 01:29:39.497
[SPEAKER_01]: Jim makes Edward breaking into his house.

01:29:39.477 --> 01:29:42.342
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's all because of the fact that he's in love with Kim.

01:29:42.402 --> 01:29:48.574
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, and I like the alarm system, ADT has nothing on this alarm system.

01:29:48.814 --> 01:29:49.195
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:29:49.255 --> 01:29:50.337
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:29:50.357 --> 01:29:53.723
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I want to know what kind of alarm system Jim's dad has.

01:29:54.144 --> 01:29:54.384
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:29:54.404 --> 01:29:57.811
[SPEAKER_01]: This really does lock you inside the house as a prisoner.

01:29:58.151 --> 01:29:59.193
[SPEAKER_01]: The old town lock.

01:29:59.213 --> 01:30:01.317
[SPEAKER_01]: It's if you call up that security.

01:30:01.297 --> 01:30:08.001
[SPEAKER_01]: place that actually, Jim's dad is, has, and, you know, then you let him out.

01:30:08.483 --> 01:30:10.952
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you have ever coming up with his hands.

01:30:11.894 --> 01:30:14.918
[SPEAKER_01]: Rob raised up raised your hands.

01:30:14.978 --> 01:30:18.102
[SPEAKER_01]: I do not want to shoot you buddy and then they said drop his weapons.

01:30:18.363 --> 01:30:21.327
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, drop your weapons and then you have the neighbors are easy.

01:30:21.387 --> 01:30:23.530
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where his hands those are his hands.

01:30:24.031 --> 01:30:24.311
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:30:24.671 --> 01:30:24.932
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:30:25.072 --> 01:30:25.192
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:30:25.212 --> 01:30:27.435
[SPEAKER_01]: And the way they handcuff him was like through his thumbs.

01:30:28.437 --> 01:30:29.278
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:31.220
[SPEAKER_00]: That was funny.

01:30:31.681 --> 01:30:32.462
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was funny.

01:30:33.263 --> 01:30:40.433
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was not funny, but it was remarkable how like the police that showed up.

01:30:41.189 --> 01:30:42.952
[SPEAKER_00]: with a scissors in the air.

01:30:43.313 --> 01:30:51.388
[SPEAKER_00]: And it kind of reminds me of X2, or X2, how the police showed up in Wolverines in front of the house.

01:30:51.889 --> 01:30:53.832
[SPEAKER_00]: And they say, put the knife down, buddy.

01:30:54.253 --> 01:30:57.338
[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, I can't do that.

01:30:57.359 --> 01:30:58.160
[UNKNOWN]: I can't do that.

01:30:58.180 --> 01:30:59.282
[UNKNOWN]: I can't do that.

01:30:59.262 --> 01:31:08.931
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, and in that case, the police shoots Wolverine in the head, but in the case of Edward Siserhand, the neighbor's Russian because they are nosy.

01:31:09.351 --> 01:31:15.436
[SPEAKER_00]: So there are nosy enough to notice that all of this is going on and they rush over and basically rescue Edward.

01:31:15.476 --> 01:31:28.408
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know because one of the things I was wondering is that is he bulletproof or is he at least bullet resistant because he's, you know, he's not real, but they they actually stop the police from shooting at him.

01:31:28.557 --> 01:31:30.699
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and he's fine, right?

01:31:30.719 --> 01:31:33.703
[SPEAKER_00]: He's with, you know, they're able to peaceably arrest them.

01:31:33.743 --> 01:31:38.328
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's cooperative because he understands that he did something wrong.

01:31:38.789 --> 01:31:39.049
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:31:39.089 --> 01:31:49.721
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like he only did it for for Kim and he's thinking that like maybe maybe she'll come and she'll straighten everything out.

01:31:50.722 --> 01:31:53.485
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but that doesn't actually happen.

01:31:53.617 --> 01:32:07.457
[SPEAKER_01]: No, and said he takes the fall for it and if he doesn't have a record, if he has no record of debt or anything now, he now has a criminal record, but here's how do you book somebody with no social security number.

01:32:08.399 --> 01:32:08.900
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:11.985
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think the police, but people with no so security.

01:32:12.465 --> 01:32:22.541
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, but it's like, well, you don't have no debt, but hey, buddy, you have a criminal record now, because he did a B and D B and D. Right.

01:32:23.262 --> 01:32:35.622
[SPEAKER_01]: And everything B and E, my bad not being any, but, you know, I just fall bad for him in this moment, and then even when he does psychologists, whenever the cop asks the psychologists, is he going to be okay?

01:32:36.243 --> 01:32:44.251
[SPEAKER_01]: Because, well, with the way I like it, and you mentioned it before, it was like the whole entire art form of what he does.

01:32:45.753 --> 01:32:52.480
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, yeah, I think it would be okay with society and stuff if you just release them, but it's just the odd stuff he does.

01:32:53.621 --> 01:32:54.502
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right.

01:32:54.522 --> 01:33:04.933
[SPEAKER_01]: Between the haircuts, the dogs, and then, you know, the other stuff he does, but he should be fine as long as the neighbors leave him alone, but you know, all right.

01:33:06.652 --> 01:33:31.410
[SPEAKER_01]: Then after that, we have during a Christmas Edward than after that, during the Christmas Edward Cray, Cray's an allergic ice car's an allergic um, angelic ice sculpture modeled after can the ice shabings are thrown into the air and fall like snow, everybody of the neighborhood can dances in the snowfall, gym arrives and calls out to Edward.

01:33:31.390 --> 01:33:34.877
[SPEAKER_01]: Surprising him and causing him to accidentally cut Kim's hand.

01:33:35.277 --> 01:33:42.210
[SPEAKER_01]: Jim accuses Edward of an intentionally harming cam, but Kim annoyed knowing by Jim's jealousy of Edward freaks up with him.

01:33:42.431 --> 01:33:50.125
[SPEAKER_01]: Edward flees and rage destroying his works and scaring Ezmir all the until he is calmed by a stray dog.

01:33:51.404 --> 01:33:56.473
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, so those are all fascinating parts.

01:33:56.533 --> 01:34:04.989
[SPEAKER_00]: This is where it starts to look more like Frankenstein, where he's like in the Frankenstein movie, he drowns a little girl.

01:34:05.731 --> 01:34:11.281
[SPEAKER_00]: And in this movie, you have the creature figure of the Frankenstein figure.

01:34:11.621 --> 01:34:13.024
[SPEAKER_00]: He accidentally cuts

01:34:13.662 --> 01:34:20.013
[SPEAKER_00]: He accidentally cuts a girl and now they're accusing him of doing it intentionally.

01:34:20.033 --> 01:34:23.880
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he was just cutting a sculpture in mind of his own business and he got startled.

01:34:24.101 --> 01:34:31.654
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like when that's the only time he ever really loses control of his scissors, the other thing is like when he's trying to handle something,

01:34:31.634 --> 01:34:34.800
[SPEAKER_00]: and he'll slip and cut his face because he cuts his face all the time.

01:34:35.060 --> 01:34:40.029
[SPEAKER_00]: That was what I meant by where I didn't know where his cuts came from until one time he cut his face.

01:34:40.049 --> 01:34:40.871
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh my good.

01:34:41.372 --> 01:34:45.820
[SPEAKER_00]: He really doesn't have as much control over his fingers as you think that he would.

01:34:46.260 --> 01:34:46.521
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:34:46.601 --> 01:34:53.794
[SPEAKER_00]: So he is constantly cutting himself and Peg is there to patch up the cuts as best as he can.

01:34:53.774 --> 01:34:56.722
[SPEAKER_00]: But in this instance, he's cutting the sculpture.

01:34:57.184 --> 01:34:58.808
[SPEAKER_00]: He startled and he swings around.

01:34:58.828 --> 01:35:01.355
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't know that Cam is behind him.

01:35:01.816 --> 01:35:02.819
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't know does anybody.

01:35:03.200 --> 01:35:05.206
[SPEAKER_00]: As far as he knows, he's completely by himself.

01:35:05.727 --> 01:35:09.538
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he startled, he turns around, he accidentally cuts Cam.

01:35:09.518 --> 01:35:11.040
[SPEAKER_00]: Kim is bleeding real blood.

01:35:11.480 --> 01:35:18.207
[SPEAKER_00]: And then do get mad and wants to have a fight with a guy with scissors ran, which is crazy.

01:35:18.687 --> 01:35:22.752
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like he's lucky that his that it's instinct is to run away.

01:35:22.812 --> 01:35:29.218
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, because, you know, he's like, oh, shit.

01:35:29.318 --> 01:35:33.923
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I actually hurt somebody I care about and Jim is the one who startled me.

01:35:33.903 --> 01:35:39.873
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, it's like that, it's like that unsilliness of like I actually harm somebody I care about.

01:35:40.356 --> 01:35:41.321
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do.

01:35:41.441 --> 01:35:42.225
[SPEAKER_01]: So he runs.

01:35:42.678 --> 01:35:56.177
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I like how he's sitting on the sidewalk and he happens to see this dog, the dog, he gets a dog a little trim the dog face and at this point, he's actually pissed off and everybody.

01:35:56.457 --> 01:35:59.361
[SPEAKER_01]: So, bro, that you cut off the bell arena lake.

01:35:59.462 --> 01:36:10.457
[SPEAKER_01]: He also, I want to know of this, for someone who doesn't have hands and has scissors, he sure did put up that devil decoration thing with those morale that really quick.

01:36:10.910 --> 01:36:31.238
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so when he was sitting on a sidewalk and the dog came out the dog had it was a type of dog that had hair growing over his eyes like bangs that covered the eye the dog's eyes So he went over and sniped the dogs hair, so the dog can see more clearly so that was Because the dog never did him no harm like the dogs are kind.

01:36:31.298 --> 01:36:37.086
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like he can always trust that the dogs won't turn on him, which is which is why he

01:36:37.387 --> 01:36:39.292
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a moment of peace wham.

01:36:39.813 --> 01:36:43.883
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when he went over to El's Merello does house and she's inside of house.

01:36:43.903 --> 01:36:46.108
[SPEAKER_00]: She hears a bunch of sniffing and whatnot.

01:36:46.128 --> 01:36:48.534
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's not really paying attention because he's playing on a piano.

01:36:48.554 --> 01:36:52.363
[SPEAKER_00]: And then she finally opens a window and it's like a devil figurine.

01:36:53.105 --> 01:36:54.889
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was amazing.

01:36:54.869 --> 01:37:01.223
[SPEAKER_00]: That was I think the whole her entire story arc was setting up for that joke.

01:37:01.484 --> 01:37:11.747
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a great one of the best punchlines of this movie.

01:37:11.727 --> 01:37:36.165
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's almost also kind of symbolic because like when now I'm going to be what you want need to be like what you I'm going to be the thing that you was telling everybody that I was and that there are the things like when he was upset and he was walking away from the neighborhood he started to cut up his clothes because now he's cutting away the thing that made him assimilate he's going to separate himself from society once again because

01:37:36.145 --> 01:37:38.449
[SPEAKER_00]: he feels that society has rejected him.

01:37:38.889 --> 01:37:39.991
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's cutting up his clothes.

01:37:40.031 --> 01:37:41.734
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was some amazing sense.

01:37:41.754 --> 01:37:54.795
[SPEAKER_01]: Even when his clothes are kind of tore up, it's kind of like this this whole thing of society and how disjointed society is and it's just tearing away from the inside of him to the inside out of

01:37:54.775 --> 01:37:55.696
[SPEAKER_01]: Right think about it.

01:37:56.077 --> 01:38:00.101
[SPEAKER_01]: So his clothes are actually just as much as a character than him himself as well.

01:38:00.442 --> 01:38:06.169
[SPEAKER_01]: So you actually make a very good point because I was even thing in this too, whenever I was watching him like that's very interesting.

01:38:06.569 --> 01:38:19.264
[SPEAKER_01]: The clothes are actually matching his mode his mood because when he tears up pigs, drapes from seeing Jim and then you see the clothes are also disoriented as well.

01:38:19.632 --> 01:38:20.996
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and stuff.

01:38:21.056 --> 01:38:31.262
[SPEAKER_01]: So it actually matches his mood and I like how they do that and then it's like, okay, well, I'm going to strip away everything that I thought society was and this is who I really am.

01:38:31.327 --> 01:38:32.108
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.

01:38:32.409 --> 01:38:33.310
[SPEAKER_01]: Want me to be this monster?

01:38:33.370 --> 01:38:34.271
[SPEAKER_01]: This is who I am.

01:38:34.973 --> 01:38:35.273
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

01:38:35.974 --> 01:38:40.401
[SPEAKER_01]: And then once everything is calm down, you know, all of us, man, we get really hostile.

01:38:40.821 --> 01:38:48.273
[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden, you know, they just, you see, the cop, car, just the police, they run.

01:38:48.293 --> 01:38:48.473
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:38:48.673 --> 01:38:48.894
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:38:49.274 --> 01:38:53.821
[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, Kim's dad and Peg is a gone kid.

01:38:54.302 --> 01:38:56.946
[SPEAKER_01]: They can be behind just a case somebody shows up.

01:38:56.926 --> 01:38:58.348
[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect shows up over there.

01:38:59.349 --> 01:39:01.672
[SPEAKER_01]: And she goes, Edward, I'm scared.

01:39:01.893 --> 01:39:02.233
[SPEAKER_01]: Hold me.

01:39:02.293 --> 01:39:04.096
[SPEAKER_01]: Go, I can't.

01:39:04.116 --> 01:39:06.479
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she, he winds up holding her.

01:39:06.739 --> 01:39:09.383
[SPEAKER_01]: And it shows that he doesn't really need hands to hold her.

01:39:09.843 --> 01:39:14.830
[SPEAKER_01]: But it also goes into the inventor flashback out and Christmas whenever he was going to get his hands.

01:39:15.431 --> 01:39:16.272
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're right.

01:39:17.173 --> 01:39:22.140
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was an interesting one, because when she tells him to hold her,

01:39:22.812 --> 01:39:24.282
[SPEAKER_00]: and he says that he can't.

01:39:24.725 --> 01:39:27.827
[SPEAKER_00]: Then she manipulates his arms in a way that

01:39:28.938 --> 01:39:32.203
[SPEAKER_00]: that he could hold her without using his hands.

01:39:32.543 --> 01:39:35.308
[SPEAKER_00]: So, basically showing how she really cared about him.

01:39:36.129 --> 01:39:41.297
[SPEAKER_00]: And I like how, like when he went back to the house, he started cutting up the walls.

01:39:42.218 --> 01:39:46.705
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they had wallpaper and he cut up the drapes and that's how.

01:39:46.725 --> 01:39:55.418
[SPEAKER_00]: Because, right, right, because he was so destructive and then when Bill shows up, it's like, well, you know, you're gonna have to replace the drapes eventually, right?

01:39:55.870 --> 01:39:58.513
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like he's still not allowed, but he's still a matter of fact.

01:39:58.533 --> 01:40:00.836
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, well, we're going to have to figure out what to do.

01:40:00.856 --> 01:40:02.337
[SPEAKER_01]: We have to replace the drapes.

01:40:02.497 --> 01:40:05.761
[SPEAKER_01]: And also, we are in the towels, right?

01:40:05.781 --> 01:40:06.041
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:40:06.061 --> 01:40:09.485
[SPEAKER_01]: We also have to teach you from right from wrong on what to do.

01:40:10.166 --> 01:40:10.486
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:40:11.027 --> 01:40:11.367
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:40:12.168 --> 01:40:14.391
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, he's an incredibly patient, man.

01:40:14.811 --> 01:40:17.314
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a very patient.

01:40:17.334 --> 01:40:25.303
[SPEAKER_01]: And then even when he's even a jolly mood during Christmas time, though, too, he's up on the roof while all this hell is going down below him.

01:40:25.283 --> 01:40:25.825
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:40:25.845 --> 01:40:27.309
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a gem get out of here.

01:40:27.429 --> 01:40:28.232
[SPEAKER_01]: Get the hell out of here.

01:40:28.573 --> 01:40:29.917
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, dude, you don't want to live there.

01:40:29.937 --> 01:40:31.301
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to tell Edward to leave.

01:40:31.722 --> 01:40:34.329
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right, right, the trespassing basically.

01:40:35.011 --> 01:40:35.272
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:40:36.135 --> 01:40:39.023
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think it's more like he's not really telling

01:40:39.222 --> 01:40:42.347
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not telling Ed to get out of the property.

01:40:42.367 --> 01:40:44.510
[SPEAKER_00]: He's telling Ed to get out of the neighborhood.

01:40:44.530 --> 01:40:45.371
[SPEAKER_00]: He's telling him.

01:40:45.451 --> 01:40:45.932
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.

01:40:45.952 --> 01:40:46.993
[SPEAKER_00]: Get out of this society.

01:40:48.616 --> 01:40:50.879
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's like get out of our spaces.

01:40:50.899 --> 01:40:55.806
[SPEAKER_00]: It's more like that more than get out of the property or get off the property.

01:40:56.828 --> 01:41:00.353
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that was that was that was poignant too.

01:41:01.193 --> 01:41:13.596
[SPEAKER_01]: And then at this point, we finally get the fact that we get the fact that cameras coming haul, uh, walking haul because from up's friends, Max's house, you see the old band again, you said there was foreshadowing from the barbecue.

01:41:13.616 --> 01:41:17.143
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, don't let everybody tell you that you have a handicap son.

01:41:17.744 --> 01:41:18.305
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, right.

01:41:18.686 --> 01:41:20.569
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, son, have you seen that cripple?

01:41:21.511 --> 01:41:26.402
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, now he's calling him a cripple, right?

01:41:26.422 --> 01:41:27.725
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or a handicap.

01:41:28.186 --> 01:41:37.107
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that was the only call, I think that's kind of like saying what they only call you that when they don't like you or they're trying to or they're insensitive for something like that.

01:41:38.335 --> 01:41:38.716
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:41:38.756 --> 01:41:42.884
[SPEAKER_01]: And then this point, Jim drives around in the drunken rage and nearly runs over a cabin.

01:41:43.746 --> 01:41:51.401
[SPEAKER_01]: But Edward, which is Kevin to safety, and, and, and Vanilly cutting cam, and he doesn't mean to kind of like you said, it's only when he panics.

01:41:51.942 --> 01:41:52.343
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:41:52.484 --> 01:41:53.025
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:41:53.686 --> 01:41:55.750
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's, and it's like me with ADHD.

01:41:55.830 --> 01:41:57.213
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like all over the place.

01:41:57.955 --> 01:41:58.656
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:41:58.636 --> 01:42:00.578
[SPEAKER_01]: He just has a ADHD hand.

01:42:00.598 --> 01:42:01.199
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all it is.

01:42:01.219 --> 01:42:01.439
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:03.721
[SPEAKER_01]: Just go out and get out of here.

01:42:04.182 --> 01:42:05.143
[SPEAKER_01]: It's me being Italian.

01:42:05.323 --> 01:42:07.225
[SPEAKER_01]: I just going around and talk with my hands.

01:42:07.745 --> 01:42:08.065
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:42:08.626 --> 01:42:15.253
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel bad for Edward because he did something nice and he's being shafted again by the society that doesn't even want him there.

01:42:15.633 --> 01:42:21.219
[SPEAKER_01]: It's exonying him and then he's like, OK, I have no choice but to go to the place of where I was.

01:42:21.919 --> 01:42:22.200
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:42:22.400 --> 01:42:22.700
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:42:23.201 --> 01:42:26.584
[SPEAKER_00]: It starts to run away.

01:42:26.918 --> 01:42:39.392
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would just say that was when like when he rescued the little boy and he kind of took a little to the ground and I think that's he was trying to see if the boy was okay but.

01:42:40.081 --> 01:42:43.126
[SPEAKER_00]: And he cut him a couple of times and trying to see that he was okay.

01:42:43.426 --> 01:42:47.132
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the boy was freaking out at it was trying to is like lube in a sense.

01:42:48.153 --> 01:42:49.796
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to think that we as gift over.

01:42:49.816 --> 01:42:58.309
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go back to a scene when the show and tell scene when the boy was so proud to actually bring in a show and tell.

01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:07.157
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was kind of like playing along with it and he, the kid was like saying and he can cut your head clean off and it like it kind of acted it out.

01:43:07.617 --> 01:43:17.918
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, one crunch after a guy's head, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, it pulls the action pose right anyways.

01:43:18.218 --> 01:43:31.798
[SPEAKER_00]: So after this and after this whole scuffle with basically the whole neighborhood, and he runs off again in the police, it's chasing him and chasing him back to his house.

01:43:31.818 --> 01:43:40.311
[SPEAKER_00]: But the police has, this is the same officer that ran into him before, and he knows kind of Edward's mental state and the situation and everything.

01:43:40.291 --> 01:43:55.549
[SPEAKER_00]: So with the town people, since the town people hadn't caught up yet, he fires a bunch of shots in the air, and then when they finally get them, he says it's over, it's over, but because he, and before he tells it to run it, then he tells the minifires of the shop he tells all the town people want to show up that it's over.

01:43:56.322 --> 01:43:56.963
[SPEAKER_00]: go home.

01:43:57.023 --> 01:43:58.124
[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing to see here.

01:43:58.604 --> 01:43:58.804
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:43:58.905 --> 01:44:00.466
[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently, not even the body.

01:44:01.807 --> 01:44:02.948
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, there's nothing to see here.

01:44:03.149 --> 01:44:03.829
[SPEAKER_01]: It's over people.

01:44:04.029 --> 01:44:04.410
[SPEAKER_01]: It's over.

01:44:04.490 --> 01:44:04.990
[SPEAKER_01]: Go back home.

01:44:05.010 --> 01:44:05.251
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:44:05.391 --> 01:44:05.631
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:44:05.751 --> 01:44:05.991
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:44:06.212 --> 01:44:09.014
[SPEAKER_01]: But being as newsy as they are, they go on.

01:44:09.154 --> 01:44:10.896
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what are you accomplishing guys?

01:44:11.577 --> 01:44:11.877
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:44:12.298 --> 01:44:14.600
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're already made a mess of things.

01:44:14.640 --> 01:44:15.240
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to do?

01:44:15.441 --> 01:44:17.503
[SPEAKER_01]: Mess up things even more than what you already did?

01:44:18.103 --> 01:44:18.403
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:44:19.004 --> 01:44:24.169
[SPEAKER_00]: You're trying to get back into the house is because I know that they're kind of standing around a little bit.

01:44:24.250 --> 01:44:26.767
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they don't actually make it in the house because remember this.

01:44:26.787 --> 01:44:29.687
[SPEAKER_01]: So Edwards already got there.

01:44:29.937 --> 01:44:30.237
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:44:30.257 --> 01:44:34.343
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you have a camp that winds up getting there before all the other neighbors do.

01:44:34.984 --> 01:44:35.284
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:44:36.086 --> 01:44:37.387
[SPEAKER_01]: And at that point.

01:44:40.091 --> 01:44:43.356
[SPEAKER_01]: She, she winds up seeing Edward on the bed.

01:44:43.396 --> 01:44:48.503
[SPEAKER_01]: She sets out next to him and goes house camera because he's going to be okay.

01:44:48.603 --> 01:44:49.344
[SPEAKER_01]: He's we find.

01:44:50.065 --> 01:44:55.793
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, dude, you might he might need a couple of incisions and everything after what happened.

01:44:55.773 --> 01:45:05.101
[SPEAKER_00]: But that said he was fine, he is probably because he just got a light scratch like a paper cut as as opposed to something that requires like stitches.

01:45:06.462 --> 01:45:13.648
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think Ed had a couple of you know, I want to say maybe he pulled back a little bit to where he just wanted to make sure he was okay.

01:45:13.988 --> 01:45:25.678
[SPEAKER_01]: So it could be a couple of paper cuts but still kind of, yeah, yeah, but then just I thought you were dead because I thought I was to and then

01:45:26.789 --> 01:45:27.250
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:45:27.330 --> 01:45:28.412
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he was too.

01:45:28.912 --> 01:45:30.675
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he takes out the gun.

01:45:30.695 --> 01:45:31.877
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the point.

01:45:31.897 --> 01:45:34.421
[SPEAKER_01]: This is actually your experiment that you want to see fall through.

01:45:35.002 --> 01:45:35.222
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:45:35.242 --> 01:45:36.284
[SPEAKER_01]: If he's bulletproof.

01:45:37.145 --> 01:45:37.446
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:45:37.506 --> 01:45:37.786
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:45:38.026 --> 01:45:41.652
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to see if he was he was bulletproof.

01:45:42.333 --> 01:45:49.945
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think that when he pulled out the gun, I guess his Kim came knocked him over or something like that.

01:45:50.060 --> 01:45:51.182
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember what happened.

01:45:51.602 --> 01:45:56.930
[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, Kim is trying to pull the gun away from GM.

01:45:57.631 --> 01:46:02.358
[SPEAKER_01]: It is also trying to go ahead and get him away from her.

01:46:02.559 --> 01:46:04.221
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're all trying to protect each other.

01:46:04.722 --> 01:46:05.483
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this is happening.

01:46:05.503 --> 01:46:05.663
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:46:05.703 --> 01:46:08.027
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he shoots the roof.

01:46:08.127 --> 01:46:10.510
[SPEAKER_01]: It falls on Edward, piece of the roof falls on him.

01:46:10.591 --> 01:46:13.936
[SPEAKER_01]: Wherever the roof part of the roof is left, falls on him.

01:46:13.996 --> 01:46:14.276
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:46:14.737 --> 01:46:15.578
[SPEAKER_01]: And then,

01:46:16.199 --> 01:46:23.751
[SPEAKER_01]: He winds up stabbing Jim into the stomach, and then Jim falls out the window, and then that's when the town's people show up.

01:46:23.771 --> 01:46:26.876
[SPEAKER_01]: So they don't even look into the building into the castle.

01:46:27.537 --> 01:46:28.258
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:46:28.338 --> 01:46:35.690
[SPEAKER_00]: That was, it's like, Jim was so eager to fight this dude.

01:46:35.710 --> 01:46:36.812
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, fist to cuss.

01:46:36.832 --> 01:46:38.675
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, but it's dude got nice.

01:46:38.735 --> 01:46:43.202
[SPEAKER_00]: For a hands with it, and now you're just on, you don't have a gun anymore, right?

01:46:44.060 --> 01:46:48.448
[SPEAKER_00]: And so now it was like, this is when Edward was truly angry.

01:46:48.808 --> 01:46:56.041
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like he had been pushed past the point of really caring whether Jim lives or dies.

01:46:56.081 --> 01:47:00.168
[SPEAKER_00]: He's pushed past the point of caring about being careful with his hands.

01:47:00.449 --> 01:47:02.372
[SPEAKER_00]: And basically, all he did was

01:47:02.352 --> 01:47:15.726
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if he had hands like regular hands, he would have it would have just been him pushing Jim away just trying to get Jim away from him, but he got scissor hands so scissor hands like stabs him to the chest.

01:47:17.048 --> 01:47:31.583
[SPEAKER_01]: Malcolm like his down to facts for this I like the missing of this is right it has just like I think I don't like this team kind of sound effect to it.

01:47:32.069 --> 01:47:34.312
[SPEAKER_01]: and then he just and then he just falls off the window.

01:47:34.913 --> 01:47:35.213
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:47:35.614 --> 01:47:35.934
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:47:36.936 --> 01:47:37.176
[SPEAKER_00]: Stay.

01:47:37.196 --> 01:47:37.957
[SPEAKER_00]: He gave him a key.

01:47:37.977 --> 01:47:38.918
[SPEAKER_00]: He stabbed him good.

01:47:39.159 --> 01:47:46.769
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when I saw this, I was like, the rain drink going to like this, Yogi is like, how are they going to explain this?

01:47:46.829 --> 01:47:50.975
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, uh, it's not like a dead body there and thank you.

01:47:50.995 --> 01:47:52.237
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody has to figure this out.

01:47:52.757 --> 01:47:53.959
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, uh,

01:47:54.125 --> 01:47:56.027
[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's when Kim comes down.

01:47:56.187 --> 01:48:01.473
[SPEAKER_00]: And she actually grabs a piece of scissor hands that happened a bit in line around.

01:48:02.294 --> 01:48:09.341
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, like she knew to go over to the spare parts where the engine is like, okay, I need something really quick and hurry.

01:48:09.761 --> 01:48:10.943
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me see what I got here.

01:48:11.483 --> 01:48:11.804
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:48:12.004 --> 01:48:14.026
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I'm cooking where now that's not going to work.

01:48:14.346 --> 01:48:15.988
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, look, there's some extra hands.

01:48:16.529 --> 01:48:17.089
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.

01:48:17.229 --> 01:48:19.812
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she goes, they try killing each other.

01:48:19.792 --> 01:48:49.343
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, well, they did kill each other, they did kill each other because apparently she said that something the roof fell on Edward and Edward stabbed Jim so they killed each other so now she's saying reinforcing that there's nothing more to see There's not no reason to go in the house nothing more to see a neighbor because like they she's their neighbor she's trustworthy is like right she was up there and they weren't so they believe her but it's it's amazing how

01:48:49.762 --> 01:49:17.187
[SPEAKER_00]: quickly the townspeople turn on Edward right and then it's like after they got evidence that Edward was killed she held off the hand that was the evidence and so they just went back home like I guess the show was over at that point right it's like well damn okay I'm to go back I got tacos in the oven right now and right I got you my crawlers I know I have the

01:49:17.723 --> 01:49:24.530
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but you're absolutely right though, and I was even thinking about this though, like the after effect, because you know, Jim's dad is rich.

01:49:25.151 --> 01:49:29.675
[SPEAKER_01]: So how do you explain Jim dying being stabbed in the stomach.

01:49:30.556 --> 01:49:42.608
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and also, too, what happens to Edward after this, like does, does, is he just going to be hiding up inside the attic the whole time to make it look like it's in a band and castle.

01:49:43.569 --> 01:49:44.390
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's it.

01:49:44.590 --> 01:49:46.212
[SPEAKER_00]: We see with.

01:49:46.428 --> 01:49:47.812
[SPEAKER_00]: Jim's father being rich.

01:49:47.832 --> 01:49:53.670
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the kind of thing where the rich man would just would buy the property and bulldoze it down.

01:49:53.690 --> 01:49:55.034
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the kind of thing that would happen.

01:49:55.937 --> 01:50:00.792
[SPEAKER_00]: But then the other funny thing is that he never stops.

01:50:02.155 --> 01:50:03.617
[SPEAKER_00]: like doing his artwork.

01:50:03.677 --> 01:50:07.604
[SPEAKER_00]: He never stops doing during all those years.

01:50:08.085 --> 01:50:11.290
[SPEAKER_00]: He's constantly pruning his garden.

01:50:11.771 --> 01:50:18.021
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's evidence that somebody lives there, but I guess nobody goes past the gate in order to see.

01:50:18.001 --> 01:50:29.137
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the also the ice sculpture, which is the explanation for why there's no one to tell, because it's like the beginning of the movie, the little boy asks his grandmother, why is there snow?

01:50:29.718 --> 01:50:34.225
[SPEAKER_00]: And she, this whole story was to explain to him why there was snow.

01:50:34.285 --> 01:50:44.700
[SPEAKER_00]: And so apparently the snow comes from the ice, the ice sculptures that Edward makes, and somehow goes over the entire neighborhood.

01:50:44.680 --> 01:50:46.743
[SPEAKER_00]: and create snow.

01:50:47.444 --> 01:50:49.928
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I have a question, like, who the, I have a question.

01:50:50.168 --> 01:50:55.416
[SPEAKER_01]: That's home depot, get a, get a thing from Edward to say, look, I need ice sculptures.

01:50:55.837 --> 01:50:56.998
[SPEAKER_01]: It's about that time of the year.

01:50:57.058 --> 01:50:58.400
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, Ken's expecting this.

01:50:58.601 --> 01:51:00.023
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, where do they get that?

01:51:00.223 --> 01:51:02.807
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, where do they get the blocks of ice

01:51:02.787 --> 01:51:05.851
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's like, could you mention the people at Home Depot?

01:51:05.871 --> 01:51:07.513
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, here we go again every year.

01:51:07.534 --> 01:51:17.127
[SPEAKER_01]: Ed goes on ahead and gives us a call says, hey, we need about five or six out ice sculptures to make it look like it's snowing outside, even though the temperature still feels exactly the same.

01:51:17.908 --> 01:51:24.016
[SPEAKER_00]: Or it could be pig just buying blocks of ice from wherever she might be able to get blocks of ice from.

01:51:24.537 --> 01:51:25.879
[SPEAKER_00]: That could be it, too.

01:51:26.319 --> 01:51:30.465
[SPEAKER_00]: She supply Ed with ice so that he can

01:51:30.445 --> 01:51:34.583
[SPEAKER_00]: do his sculptures that I think that's also a possibility.

01:51:34.765 --> 01:52:03.912
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but what do you think about the fact that the elderly woman is actually Kim telling her granddaughter the story and then revealing that she is herself and she is seeing that she never saw Edward again she prefers not to visit him because the case had passed and she wants him to remember her as she was in her youth she believes Edward was still alive immortal because he's artificial and because of this now, like you mentioned, which is Edward's creatures when carving ice sculptures my thing is this so he is a machine.

01:52:04.482 --> 01:52:07.347
[SPEAKER_01]: because of the fact that he doesn't age.

01:52:07.827 --> 01:52:11.954
[SPEAKER_01]: So even if you were to be with this dude, you would be in your 80s.

01:52:13.016 --> 01:52:15.159
[SPEAKER_01]: This is not gonna work out either way.

01:52:15.219 --> 01:52:17.563
[SPEAKER_01]: It goes even if the town people did love him to death.

01:52:18.364 --> 01:52:18.665
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:52:18.945 --> 01:52:21.068
[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna love those people.

01:52:21.629 --> 01:52:25.275
[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna be even more depressed because he's seeing people dying around him.

01:52:26.555 --> 01:52:29.343
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's definitely a situation.

01:52:29.644 --> 01:52:37.326
[SPEAKER_00]: But being a machine doesn't not automatically mean that you live an undetermined amount of time.

01:52:37.406 --> 01:52:39.973
[SPEAKER_00]: It's because I think it's sooner or later.

01:52:40.358 --> 01:52:46.145
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sooner or later, if you're going to have parts to run down because he doesn't have anybody to replace parts, he doesn't have anybody to work on.

01:52:46.165 --> 01:52:47.687
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's never been completed.

01:52:48.067 --> 01:52:51.992
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you drive a car from long enough, you need different place of tires.

01:52:52.012 --> 01:52:53.253
[SPEAKER_00]: You got oil changes.

01:52:53.874 --> 01:53:09.572
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, you got mysterious engine troubles and he's going to start having, like, when he starts putting mileage on his body, he's going to start having issues and complications and he's going to eventually run down.

01:53:10.430 --> 01:53:13.234
[SPEAKER_00]: So we don't know exactly what the lifespan of Ed is.

01:53:14.115 --> 01:53:25.189
[SPEAKER_00]: He just doesn't look old, but he's not going to age like a normal human being, but he definitely has an endpoint.

01:53:25.230 --> 01:53:26.872
[SPEAKER_00]: We just don't know what that endpoint is.

01:53:27.953 --> 01:53:28.414
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

01:53:28.995 --> 01:53:34.682
[SPEAKER_01]: So now that we talked about this movie non-destasically, how do you feel about this film now?

01:53:35.101 --> 01:53:35.623
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

01:53:36.084 --> 01:53:37.829
[SPEAKER_00]: It was as good as I thought it was going to be.

01:53:37.929 --> 01:53:43.204
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like I had high expectations for this movie and it met those expectations.

01:53:43.245 --> 01:53:50.325
[SPEAKER_00]: I love all the similisms that they put into the movie that I like how Tim Burton makes.

01:53:50.744 --> 01:54:16.330
[SPEAKER_00]: movies with intention and you can see those intentions on the screen and it's amazing because normally I'm not the type of person that catches the you know the symbolism that a director might put into a movie but I guess in this particular sense it's so obvious that it's you know it it would be impossible to miss the symbols that that were assembled that that he created so

01:54:16.732 --> 01:54:19.095
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like something that a genius would do.

01:54:19.115 --> 01:54:24.881
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's a, he's a, this is one of those movies where he displays his genius.

01:54:25.001 --> 01:54:29.086
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love how he used color, I love how he used sound.

01:54:29.526 --> 01:54:33.391
[SPEAKER_00]: I love how the soundtrack compliments everything is happening in the movie.

01:54:34.412 --> 01:54:36.194
[SPEAKER_00]: I love how it's set up as a fable.

01:54:36.474 --> 01:54:42.461
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not supposed to be something that's real and how you know that from the beginning of the movie.

01:54:42.621 --> 01:54:43.482
[SPEAKER_00]: I love.

01:54:43.462 --> 01:54:46.245
[SPEAKER_00]: I loved how this movie was put together.

01:54:46.305 --> 01:54:48.628
[SPEAKER_00]: The story was a great story.

01:54:48.728 --> 01:54:51.812
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was, it was as good as it thought it was going to be.

01:54:52.092 --> 01:54:53.134
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm glad I watched it.

01:54:53.814 --> 01:54:54.896
[SPEAKER_00]: So what would you give it out of ten?

01:54:54.916 --> 01:54:59.581
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I would give it eight out of ten.

01:55:00.242 --> 01:55:00.703
[SPEAKER_01]: Eight out of ten?

01:55:00.823 --> 01:55:01.083
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:55:01.163 --> 01:55:01.383
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:55:02.284 --> 01:55:07.170
[SPEAKER_01]: So six or seven year old me, but I actually gave the gate, which my name is Sasha was ten.

01:55:07.831 --> 01:55:08.071
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

01:55:08.192 --> 01:55:12.777
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to, I think if this, I'll least a seven point five.

01:55:13.364 --> 01:55:17.310
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because there's some things I'm questioning it now.

01:55:18.152 --> 01:55:19.333
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's why I gave it a eight.

01:55:19.394 --> 01:55:22.198
[SPEAKER_00]: There's some questions that you got, like, What is a question?

01:55:22.218 --> 01:55:27.346
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, what are you going to do about this rich, this rich man who's son just got murdered.

01:55:27.366 --> 01:55:27.687
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

01:55:27.707 --> 01:55:32.875
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a very valid question that, you know, that wasn't answered.

01:55:34.137 --> 01:55:39.734
[SPEAKER_00]: was is at able to sexually satisfy the women that were all sexually attracted to them.

01:55:39.754 --> 01:55:40.215
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

01:55:40.235 --> 01:55:41.659
[SPEAKER_01]: Another advantage is dry Humping.

01:55:41.980 --> 01:55:42.381
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:55:42.421 --> 01:55:43.926
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it's just going to be dry Humping.

01:55:44.287 --> 01:55:45.952
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just going to be rubbing up against them.

01:55:45.972 --> 01:55:46.373
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

01:55:47.436 --> 01:55:48.720
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what's going to happen.

01:55:49.780 --> 01:55:52.524
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I enjoy this movie and stuff like that.

01:55:52.544 --> 01:55:57.231
[SPEAKER_01]: I even bought it on 4K for the steel book, edition for the anniversary edition and stuff.

01:55:57.251 --> 01:55:59.274
[SPEAKER_01]: I also know this on regular blue ray as well.

01:56:00.235 --> 01:56:03.320
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll probably continue to watch it, but I'll still have questions.

01:56:03.820 --> 01:56:19.483
[SPEAKER_01]: But even though I don't, my question I can not have ready to be met, but still, I do have a, I give Tim Burton credit though, because basically he made this movie because of the fact of the awkwardness that he had

01:56:20.071 --> 01:56:20.592
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

01:56:20.613 --> 01:56:25.366
[SPEAKER_01]: And about how he felt isolated from society and how awkward he is.

01:56:27.011 --> 01:56:34.452
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why this movie got made and then at first, one of us is going to pick it up and then after that, it got sold over to 20th century of Fox.

01:56:34.938 --> 01:56:35.579
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

01:56:36.160 --> 01:56:39.466
[SPEAKER_00]: So that he definitely, he definitely gave Edward his hairstyle.

01:56:40.067 --> 01:56:43.813
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I could definitely.

01:56:43.833 --> 01:56:45.916
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, all and all guys tell us what you think.

01:56:45.956 --> 01:56:47.159
[SPEAKER_01]: What's sure in a static review?

01:56:47.199 --> 01:56:48.861
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your non-nest object review?

01:56:48.881 --> 01:56:50.003
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell us in the comments below.

01:56:50.043 --> 01:56:50.704
[SPEAKER_01]: We would like to know.

01:56:50.985 --> 01:56:52.167
[SPEAKER_01]: And what questions do you have?

01:56:52.307 --> 01:56:54.190
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it because do you wonder if he has a penis?

01:56:54.210 --> 01:56:55.392
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you not wonder if he has a penis?

01:56:55.673 --> 01:56:56.935
[SPEAKER_01]: What happened to Jim's dad?

01:56:57.115 --> 01:57:01.182
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he, is he, is he going to

01:57:01.162 --> 01:57:05.613
[SPEAKER_01]: and everything and destroy it is going to turn to a museum more than coming on the comments.

01:57:05.633 --> 01:57:07.077
[SPEAKER_01]: I like to know what your theories are.

01:57:07.558 --> 01:57:10.204
[SPEAKER_01]: And so thank you so much for joining me for tonight.

01:57:10.325 --> 01:57:12.350
[SPEAKER_01]: I do you enjoy our conversations.

01:57:12.650 --> 01:57:14.355
[SPEAKER_01]: Last time you were here we did rookie of the year.

01:57:14.635 --> 01:57:16.039
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're doing it and we're scissor hands.

01:57:16.279 --> 01:57:17.803
[SPEAKER_01]: That's great to have you here, my friend.

01:57:18.003 --> 01:57:18.985
[SPEAKER_00]: It was great to be here.

01:57:19.065 --> 01:57:20.427
[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed talking about this movie.

01:57:20.447 --> 01:57:21.329
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for having me over.

01:57:21.890 --> 01:57:22.732
[SPEAKER_01]: You're welcome anytime.

01:57:23.493 --> 01:57:23.954
[SPEAKER_01]: All right guys.

01:57:24.074 --> 01:57:24.895
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's going to be it.

01:57:24.936 --> 01:57:27.861
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01:57:27.901 --> 01:57:29.464
[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's fact looks in the podcast.

01:57:29.965 --> 01:57:32.189
[SPEAKER_01]: And given five star review over there, he doesn't mean it has to jump.

01:57:32.209 --> 01:57:32.930
[SPEAKER_01]: It's his reviews.

01:57:33.531 --> 01:57:37.138
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, too, go ahead and give me a five star review if you see a deal more as well.

01:57:37.679 --> 01:57:39.081
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll catch you guys in the next one.

01:57:39.522 --> 01:57:40.163
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