Dune 3 vs Avengers: Doomsday — Will Dune 3 Move Its Release Date?

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[SPEAKER_00]: friends with me from the CVMK.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is what it is podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My good friend, Vernon Kelly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy to have him back on the show again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a privilege and an arm to be able to have the man, the myth, the legend, Vernon Kelly with me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about some movie news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have Doomsday, facing off against Doom 3.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this going to be a Doomsday?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or is it going to be a Doomsday for Doom 3?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know, but let's go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have me, bag man, it has been a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're excited to be back on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's great to have you back happy new year, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: New year, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a couple of new stories that we wanted to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We wanted to talk about the students.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Doing three versus of Avengers Doomsday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But before we get into that, there's a little teaser that dropped this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's actually Daredevil born again season two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed season one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that not the many people really care for the stuff that that was in season one, because they basically have Frankenstein the script up to be able to give us that season, because it was completely going to be a completely different TV series altogether, but from the trailer itself, I'm really in and intrigued to see what they're going to do with season two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What about for you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, dear, dear to us, been a very interesting development.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Saw the first season, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think everybody kind of fell in love with it because it was a rebirth of the character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You saw him in Devlin and Darker, kind of mold, but he wasn't, what I would say, Gritty, like Punisher's Gritty, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dare to almost still kind of, I would say, fluid as far as presentation, you saw Jessica Jones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You saw, you kind of saw the whole collab and universe come together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What made me kind of back off from the trailer is that it felt like it was too little too late.

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[SPEAKER_01]: almost the same reaction I have for the new Avengers film right like look just let it end right like you know like you you almost get like can you can you beat what you already established right like you'd have to bring back so many people and you'd have to bring back so many stories that honestly have dissipated so you know the trailer showed a lot of

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[SPEAKER_01]: promise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was great to see certain characters, but I don't know if I was completely sold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what I saw and I was like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's dingyworthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's me being locked in, you know, for the four episode release, or they do one a week after they go about it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's mean, you know, ordering food, overeat, you know, focused.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What it did do though,

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[SPEAKER_01]: is say that Hollywood or specifically me as a whole is re-interested in major production.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a positive thing right because because for a while like post-COVID they got away Remember like everybody's supposed to get 20 episodes and then went down to 15 and then went out of 12 I think about 10 now it's six And then after she hoped there's like now we're not doing this right so now it's kind of like maybe we need to relook at this So it is promising But I'm gonna say a dollar late a dollar short

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see, I enjoyed seeing the teaser trailer, I enjoyed seeing Foggy, and of course, it's connected in with the comics, where basically Foggy, Nelson, why is that picking his own death in the comics?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm wondering if that's gonna be a flashback scene or if that's actually gonna be him and full flesh of him talking to Matt and stuff too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's something that I'm wondering about myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not only that, but I like seeing, for instance, not for you back again, it's Kingpin, he does a fantastic job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I play in Kingpin, so I'm very excited about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: boxing ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm excited about those things, but I actually had to delete my reaction video because it bombed because nobody watched it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then even with the people that I follow, they got maybe 14 to thousand, uh, 14 to 15,000 views on their channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then some people that have them about the same kind of subscribers that I do, only got about 5,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, is anybody really excited about the show current back?

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[SPEAKER_00]: or not because of the basically how I do my stuff is like, okay, my reaction is not doing what it needs to be doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, people that I follow are not getting the views that they're getting, is anybody actually care about this series?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like you said, it's too, is it too little too late, giving my dollar 50 back, basically, or what I need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm excited to see Jessica Jones back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited to see those characters.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think people need to have a reason to actually watch this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though they did give us the ending that we got where basically you have mad, who's over there trying to get his team together, these brothers to take down fish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'd like that idea behind it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I want to know what the whole entire substance of the hot one is going to be, even though this is a teaser to Liz, no, hey, look, there's going to be a new season coming out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're just guys, you guys are just going to have to wait until March to figure out what we're going to be doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you're definitely right about the viewerships, though, as far as like episodes, because people's attention spans are like a tension of like basically a tension of a gold fish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You think about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at TikTok.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You get 30 seconds and people like I'm out after

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that's one of the biggest things I was going to say to your point earlier, you got to blame the algorithm, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think it's not an issue of content or quality of content.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's more of an issue of, unfortunately, Daredevil does not have box office possession.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you take like, you know, the doomsday trailers, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you see the Avengers and you see, you almost have like a new Avenger release every week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, well, who won't be in it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got X man coming back, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all this build up and hype where, you know, just seeing Jessica Jones wasn't enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to have not just a vision for how you want to go about marketing this, but also

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[SPEAKER_01]: can the content survive on its own two feet?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a eye test, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What made Daredevil work the first time is because it passed the eye test.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The problem with, even though that's kind of fun and because they're doing something for that, you know, but the problem with the problem is what her Daredevil wasn't Daredevil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What herdom was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jessica Jones got our own spin off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Luke Cage got his own spin off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You had so much pouring out of it, in contention with other projects that really took away from, wow, this thing is a stand alone project.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm honestly my worry for this is the same thing that happened to the past, it's gonna happen to this project, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you keep pumping the algorithm with the Avengers and Steve Rogers,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like in Robert Downey, Judy, like you keep doing that, they're not going to think so consciously, man, deer doubles back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this reminder, hey, look, Daredevil's back, just for the TV series, because things like this, they don't really make much of a TV series or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The box office, basically, they make them money off movies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're hoping to get new subscribers in by getting them to subscribe for Daredevil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh, snap, Daredevil's back again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I better subscribe, or I unsubscribe because Daredevil's is not going to be on TV until next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to subscribe to Disney Plus until I get Daredevil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you might have those people coming back, but at the same time though, you're actually losing your fire in the moment of everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not gaining anything either because simple fact is this, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm watching Wonder Man, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched two episodes of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great, I ended up enjoying the first two episodes, out of the eight episodes that they dropped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason why they dropped it all at once is because they're saying, look, we're not gonna make money off of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we're just going to give you everything all at one time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So here you go, here's your buffet of Wonder Man and enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to go ahead and give you what we want in December, which is doomsday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think I feel like this, though, to Marvel's playing into their greatest hits, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is their greatest hits album, when you look at doomsday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, you know, what you have, Steve Rogers come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, oh, wait, wait, wait, you have an artigee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's coming back, but he's coming back as Dr. Doom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're all like, oh, you like the work doors come back to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have all these characters coming back again that we know and love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then nostalgia factors there, but it's the nostalgia factors just for the sake of being there or is it or is there a reason how these characters are round, even though artisty is playing Dr. Doom, but the same time though, they could have actually

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dr. Doom, you didn't have to cast RGJ.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a desperation, in my opinion, to get people back into theaters again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the recast to go RGJ was absolutely, and granted, I'm not a director.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they have some amazing plot twists that it all comes together, makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want to put that past them, because they have a lot of great talent in this production.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think it was a necessary move, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to your point, when the original universe ended,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you have to leave even when it's a broken work because there was a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody counted on Chad with both of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a lot of things that happened in real life that affected production.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm people that basically had a Frankenstein that to benefit to because of the university needed to make with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay to say,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this album is only gonna have eight songs and we're not gonna go remaster it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you remaster it and it blobs, then you have what I call the teenage meanage of turtles, three of fact, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're in Japan, they went back in time and it's so terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It makes you not wanna remember that they did a third one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right, right, right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This has that feel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wonder sometimes do

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[SPEAKER_01]: production companies or does Hollywood as a whole do what I call sympathy projects to test the waters like to me and I need to get into Wonderman and I don't want to shoot it down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I felt like Wonderman was a sympathy project for what they should have done, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like because honestly, I'm looking at it, I'm looking at the, you know, the cast characters and everybody in the album, you have talent, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just it doesn't

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't drive, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yaha Abdul, Matt and this thing, yeah, I think is great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen him in other stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Be, obviously, Ben Kingsley is great, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, was it necessary, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see, uh, they actually greenlit this thing a while back though, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is back whenever the other Bob came into play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was just green lighting everything, make everything a TV show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then the other Bob comes in and basically says, what are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, look, what we're going to do is we're going to go and hang.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to grade like your Wonderland TV series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to still do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just going to dump it on there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be the dumping ground.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that'll be it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to do anything with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we might get another season or you can get a movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: let's just see how the positive were about my go from business perspective, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then he also seemed what they were doing with Mandalorian and Grogu, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great, great, great, what are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't had a Star Wars movie since 2019 that made over a billion dollars, despite the fact that some fans critically hated it or didn't like it, and some critics actually liked it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what are we doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go ahead, let's chop this thing up, make this into a movie, make some money back on it and be done with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was basically a made for TV movie that's gonna be released in theaters in May of this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're doing things in the right perspective now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That Bob was like, look, what are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't need to make a TV series because we're not gonna benefit of TV series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna be benefiting off of the movie theaters and movie tickets.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's how I think this is actually the right way to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They finally got their cards and play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, in fact, they got rid of Catling Kennedy in Star Wars as well, running it because now she's doing something with AI for them for Lucasfilm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you have two other people now they're in charge of Star Wars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm thinking that now they actually are shaping and molding with needs to be done, even with Star Wars and Marvel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I, so I think it's about, Bob Iger, right, the other, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I can't think of the other, I can't think of the other, I can't think of the other, there were two, Bob, there were two, when Iger came back, he put Disney back in the driver's seat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, when, you know, Iger left for like a year or year or two, whatever, Disney went off into, like, creative,

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[SPEAKER_01]: like chaos, like they were just kind of just seeing what, you know, stuck at, you know, they don't speak at all, not really understanding to me their true fan base and what is actually resonating with audiences.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think also you can be a victim of your success.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the problem is no company has had a string of hits like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like this is a string of hits and I'm not talking about like good box office.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about like break record really strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they established record break it again, established record break it again, like that's that's unheard of, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's so many different dynamics in their production rollouts that is almost like are the interest more important than what the fans want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all about the money, all about the Benjamin's when it comes down to the product.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't care about the fan base, even though they should care about it, because they're the ones who draws the money in for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now I think the other Bob actually understands that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So too, it's like, look, this is a business about the same time that we need to have that raw, you know, to be able to have the money coming in without money coming in, whatever you're doing here as a business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're rid of Marker Fellow for the whole, like I heard you're not gonna be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's not the reason why that's just a rumor that happened and I just want to play this up too because I was like, not that's completely BS because I was even thinking this too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, no, there's no way they're going to get rid of Mark Gruffalo, what he was doing was he was filming another movie and another location.

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[SPEAKER_00]: as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he, so that's what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But also two, he's not going to be in the new doomsday movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's only because of the fact that the storyline doesn't, he's only going to be in Spider-Man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they didn't get rid of him or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just basically saying, hey, look, the script doesn't call for Hulk at this moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like World War.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A World War Hulk works in the comic books.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how that works in a madingly, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to actually really be able to keep people's attention, especially when you're dealing with something in space.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you can actually lose the fan base, but still, is an interesting concept on how they do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though we've seen a little bit of World War Hulk and Thor, Ratner Rock, we saw a little bit of that, but not enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's supposed to be the angry Hulk that we got though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're basically going with the Browler type Spider-Man Browler type to haul that we knew the angry hull.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it could actually work in that kind of way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Mark Ruffalo is safe and I'm happy that he's actually still working with Disney and Marvel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But my question for you guys that are watching, what do you think about the stuff that we're talking about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I want to know too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you like Wonder Man?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you not like Wonder Man?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about the whole entire thing of the two Bob's coming into play and the business aspect of that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel like I actually know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's go on in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were going to talk about June three versus June's day where they were basically going to have a June's day, kind of like Bob and Hymer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said this from the beginning, this is a big mistake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dooms going to get eaten alive by Dooms Day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the thing, they can't move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They cannot move now right now because Dooms actually is cured in a exclusive three week lock on all global iMac screenings, beginning December 18, 2026, forcing a major premium format.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And stuff like that, even the film is shot with IMAX cameras and sure thing is premium large format release.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That means that you might not be able to see due to day in IMAX because of the fact of the three weeks that they have on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it could benefit doing a little bit to where it's like, hey, look, we can make our money from IMAX.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We already had this date already secured unlocked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that doomsday decided to go ahead and take the slot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But someone like me and you, we're probably going to try and see both movies on the same day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or we're going to go and we'll see this movie and then we'll go in and see the next movie the next day or next weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for the average movie viewers like which movie do I want to go and see the most so you might actually have more people going to see doomsday versus doing three and that money money in here's the thing it's going to be a split to where nobody breaks even.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because also, too, we also talked about the whole fact, this is not the early 2000s marvel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the flops of the stuff that we have with the other Bob and also the stuff that we mentioned earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's also that being in the play as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this movie gonna make money?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does doomsday needs to move out?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the people's like, oh, this is gonna be just like Bob and Hymer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, you had one movie that was attached to IP, which is Barbie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you had another movie that was completely different, which was a Christopher Nolan film.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And not tied to any IP, and you cannot compare apples to oranges when you look at doomsday and do in three and say, oh, it's the same thing as Barbara Hymer, it's two different movies all together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, this is how I play it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for doomsday, if Disney wants to have a very bond home run, they have to get engaged with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: what I would say new media so like this is new media right like this is the podcast space you have to reach out you need to have influencers like John who has the best podcast on a plenty of y'all subscribe to this channel today uh... so that you know you can drive the traffic but not only drive the traffic set up watch parties set up review parties set up you know like when we have president debates we have a panel right afterward they should have that type of engagement

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[SPEAKER_01]: The fact of the matter is, Doomsday is going to do numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They know what's going to do numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But do you want to do numbers?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to break records, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could get into another stratosphere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have this much height, if you tap into that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doon is created to get Oscars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doomsday is not going to win the Oscars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if it's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a sound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a sound best costume, you know, you know, something of that nature.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Make a cut.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not best actor, not best supporting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: None of that, none of the major titles, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doing three because of you have to be shot out, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have Zendaya, you have Robert Pattinson, you have these notables in it that they're, that's what they're looking for in their career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And doing three is kind of geared toward that talk track.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The, I think what's going to happen is you're going to see a real low opening weekend for doing three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to send shock waves right and then you're going to see roll back and then you're going to see this big For doomsday and it's going to be hot hot hot hot hot if I'm doing three I'm changing the day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you don't want to go to war with Disney.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have too many resources too much money involved like they own they're like the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to do anything on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They own Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can say first quarter we want to be right before the Oscar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We want to be the movie that everybody's mind is on June 3.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, hit it out the gate all of a sudden because remember, that's what sinners did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: sinners came out last winter right before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they had a whole year of just being able to talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People did digest it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's how you get the golden glows and all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's say if they could, even then you have that stipulation I mentioned with the IMAX right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's say you've changed it to like early December right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You would have they would be facing off against violent night December 4th, which is sequel to David harbor silent night violent night one, which is about Santa Claus who goes on and, you know, kills the bad people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it would actually make more money doing it that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that way you have a couple of weeks before doomsday comes in because on the 18th, you also known on the 11th, then you have Sony's Jamaji 3 that comes in, which is gonna make money too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Therak, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So at least you have a couple of weeks to make your money back and do a that way for doing three and I understand why Dune wanted to go on ahead and take the December.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But because of the fact so we can get nominated for Oscars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember this, Dune 2 was released in March.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody's remembering anything from Dune 2 from March all

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why it didn't get nominated because there was other movies that got in the way and outshined it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why they didn't get Biden do the buzz that they needed to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's smart to actually market it between November and December by even though you're secured your eye max.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have your deal with that in that stipulation, I think it would be smart and moved to like an early release in December.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for the holidays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, for the sake of revenue and then reward, right, awards, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a perfect play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But whatever decision is made, you don't want to go hate to hate with doomsday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you can go hate to hate with Chumaji.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, come on hard as a brand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the Wayne Johnson has a brand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But their brand isn't Disney brand, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Their brand isn't Avengers brand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's a different giant to slate, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And why do you kind of is more of a, you know, oh, it's your module.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not really taken seriously.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just there for kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's there to stop popcorn in your face for two and a half hours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Watch act black to take a couple of the fart jokes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the rock, do what he does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My luck the camera does the one eye thing and that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what everybody's expecting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you want to fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the one to fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to fight dooms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to fight dooms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They go into that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a battle that you just lose all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even if you go into November, you had the hunger games prequel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's coming out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think that the other thing makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It makes more sense to do early December.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now that we talked about that, do you want, which one do you want to talk about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to talk about the super girl?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or do you want to talk about the sea of Avengers James Day and secret wars up there could mean new golden age for the MCU?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or do you want to talk about John Rambo or dirty dancing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got whatever, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got about John Rambo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so you know John Rambo is going to be getting a prequel, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the life before semester.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's about the life before he ends up becoming the Rambo that we know according to Lionsgate, that coming prequel called movie title, John Rambo has officially begun production and being caught Thailand movie starring Noah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cynthia Centiano has also announced more of its stars that he does not will cast alongside Centiano.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The movie will also star Yahoo, which is the person from centers, Jason Tobin, the thousand blows, Quincy Isaiah from winning time, the rise of the Lakers Dynasty, Jefferson White from Yellowstone and Ty

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, John Rambo takes audiences back years before the events of first blood diving deep into the roots and experience that forge one of the big screens most enduring and complex characters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Please, the official long long line for the film, the Rambo prequel will be directed by.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jean-Marie, Hollander, and is said to follow the story of a young rant about during the time of Vietnam War, who made the role of sort of a Sloan who made the role of Rambo is said to be aware of the movie, but not involved at them in the moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: However, the door has opened for him to potentially appear in the movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Should he be willing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The franchise stresses across five films beginning with 1986 first blood, which was an adaptation of the 1932 novel of the same by David Morrell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you think of this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, um, good first investor loan, people want to see slide and it's like an homage to him, even though yes, this is a prequel, you know, historical setup, it also shows a couple of things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lack of creative investment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think this was a necessary project.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We could create a

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[SPEAKER_01]: thriller, wartime thing, there's an audience for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think you had to go back and say, you know, we're going to take Rambo, and we're going to make Rambo before Rambo, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think, yeah, that time has really passed, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's almost like, what made, okay, it'd be like, they're doing the Rocky, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one is, you know, filming Rocky, they're making a movie about Rocky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: get it, but how much interest really is there in that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if you continue to along the same universe as like a creed, if you don't have a true captivating story,

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[SPEAKER_01]: a true hero's arc or anti-hero's arc.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't have a compelling move that speaks to the issues of humanity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just doesn't connect, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things, and I'll say this, one of the things that the last creed, and they had to me, you had you out of the majors, you had the right cast as far as talent,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Rocky was missing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was a huge blow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was a mistake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was a casting, honestly, a mistake, not to have him part of the film.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also think,

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[SPEAKER_01]: because there just wasn't this, you didn't go deep enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like that's what's gonna happen to this film.

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[SPEAKER_01]: John Rambo, yes, it will have the aesthetics, it will have the storyline, they'll put him on enough, creatine who'll have the body, who will have the surface layer of material to actually be in production.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it won't be deep enough to say, that was a justifiable mood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what's going to be the take on Don Rambo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's too little to leave for this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you really wanted to tell the in-depth story of Rambo, the way you needed to be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You should have done it with Stallone, even though in the book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you read the book or anything for Rambo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rambo dies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wouldn't even get a franchise like

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[SPEAKER_01]: He died of the book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he died in the book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's done from where people told me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not this hero that we know him to be from these other movies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think it's just too little to late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really care for about a prequel series, a prequel movie for this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like everything's been established within Rambo 1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a guy who just happens to run into bad trouble because of the fact he just seen one of his best friends' wives who he was actually looking for his best friend, his best friend dies of cancer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he runs into that ballbag sheriff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all Grable wanted to do was eat and then basically Rambo ends up just going having his PTSD moment and just going on a rampage against this sheriff's department because of the way that they treated him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to do a frequent series before that and to get to know him before we know who he was from first blood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sold on it, even with, and get this, the guy actually play, the guy's playing him, Noah Centiano, he played in warfare.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is a great war movie and stuff like that that came out last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed it, but I didn't think that he embodied who Rambo is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and even though he's working out getting abs and stuff like that, I just don't buy into this thing and now I want to, but I'm going to have to see a trailer before I said yes to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I totally agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, um, I tell you to your point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't connect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't connect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't connect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, a movie can, I was hoping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, man, I want John to talk about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Odyssey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That movie is my most height movie of 2021.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, what they got everything right to a teeth and being at a historical film.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh, the clothes are on round.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, it's historically accurate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's, they can tell in the story of the Odyssey, you got John Perntall, you got Tom Holland, you have all these big name stars in this movie, for a reason, Dolan's not using special effects.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not using green screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this could be fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to be my, my summer of the movie, just to go and see this movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mad Damon, when I first went when I saw the trailer, I said, oh, this is it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is how good the movie is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't really give you much in the trailer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As I'm going to say, I don't need to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to give you the highlights.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to give you any amazing bike scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to just show glimpses of faces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to show historical accuracy, and I'm going to show you how I filmed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it is an Homeric fantasy like it is it is you know like it is true to the novel you know I'm because I haven't seen it, but I mean if you kind of read the Homeric you know tell of the Odyssey to take that story that depiction and actually bring it to film only Christopher Nolan could do that and because of who he is you know it's not going to drop like it's not going to be this disappointing thing he you almost feel the way or to me it almost looks like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and he actually puts him in that world of being in the in history, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He puts you on the Odyssey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He makes you feel those moments of tension out on sea and those moments of being with Damon and you know what, is there's a, and I think this, I've seen the trailer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a difference between watching it on YouTube and watching it in the, in the movie theater, which this, this, the trailer needs to be in the theater to really get the

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when have I seen it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm just geeked out over it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in awe about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I'm actually in these intense moments with these men as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, sign me up for the Odyssey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would go on a hand and say, here, take my money right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This will probably if I only had five dollars a 50 cents.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's it for my from my movies for the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be my that'll be that'll be it for my year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't even worry about going to see other movies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, That'll be it for the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that'll be it for me for the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has that you know, I said this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think people realize how

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[SPEAKER_01]: have the power of selection and what I mean by that they don't do a film every year they don't do a film every two years

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when they do it, it's done right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a short list, little streets on that list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a Washington's on that list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Matt Damon's on that list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when they do it, it's done right, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to be in this film, because Matt just doesn't do, like you can't, unless you're, you've been athletic, you can't convince Matt to do a film, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I honestly, I've said this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If Matt wanted to, I don't think that's just his demo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Matt Damon is this generation's oh my god, Tom Hanks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I get this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually listen to what, well, I will listen to Howard Stern interview Ben in Matt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Matt, okay, Matt Damon is so picky about the scripts that he gets.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he wants to make sure that

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, I looked at some of the scripts he's getting and he's like, man, this is good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is like some stuff I would actually get and here's Ben, I mean, here's Matt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, no, I don't want to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he actually picks the films that he knows that he can actually do well in versus just getting it doing anything and everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, he plays Sunny McCarrot like he's Matt Damon really has the versatility like I can do this if I wanted to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, I that's how I think like this member right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's talking about Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I when is also done 2026 is going to be the Odyssey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do they have the biggest splash?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but when it's all said and done and you look at it say what is great content what is what is greatness look like right like what does that mean is far as acting Method acting getting into characters cinematography just all that goes into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're looking at it with the Odyssey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I 110% agree with you is my most anticipated movie of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Matter of fact, sinners was my most anticipated movie, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That movie spoiled me as like I wanted to try to find something that could be it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're my top five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't find anything for the rest of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That connection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so this could actually be my sinners again, but it's with the Odyssey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the only thing that derails the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's the wild card, let's say, Doomsday has pre-COVID success, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say it has what in game head, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or infinity wars, infinity wars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause I always say infinity wars is better than in game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say it has the success infinity wars has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then everybody's like, you know, they're, you know, they're, you know, they're praising them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what a smash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're going around over the tour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it Disney's like, we got to put out something now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to put out a follow-up now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if it's a TV series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is the only potential site that you very all from this movie is that Disney can play their hand and say,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Instead of one major drop, we're going to do another major drop in the same year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give you a six week filming, basically, cycle to get this out and it's got to be from start to finish out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the product and then you could see, okay, they kind of, you know, do that to sabotage, but as long as this doesn't do anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they learned that lesson from doing that though because if you remember they kept on Russian production with Dr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Strange with the CGI and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think they learned that lesson to do something like that is like, look, we're not going to rush production, we're not going to do anything, we're going to take our time with things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't see them trying to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then again, you have other studios that might say, hey, look, let's try and figure out a way to knock something outside of the park.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but yeah, obviously is in my top, top tier right now, to go see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, let's see, let's talk about a little DC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, basically, Robert Pattinson is gonna be returning as a batman again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that you didn't really care for the batman with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you know, he's a good guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just not Batman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I got you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you're a lot too objective, opinion and subjective opinion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, what did James Guns say about the dynamic dough in the DCU?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The dynamic dough will follow the origins of two robins, Dick Rayson and Jason Todd, who each went to become the headman's most famous psychics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the dynamic dough includes batman characters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were speculations that the movie would be the DCU.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One thread user has gone about the dynamic do rumor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eric, I'm at this adjoer road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey James, is it true that dynamic do is being written to be part of the DCU gun responded dope?

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[SPEAKER_00]: When another threads user asked about the status of dynamic do, gun said really, really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Coach Bellachek.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, since October, 2024, the joint project between DC studios and one of the brothers, pictures, animation, author, mince, will direct the movie, mince, sway box, enrolance, animation studio, we started with his wife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tracy Anderson will animate, dynamic dos, say, sway, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba,

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[SPEAKER_00]: box use Momo animation and combination of CGI animation live action real-time performance in on-stop motion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Originally Matthew Adash, who co-wrote Pixar's Coco had been tapped to pin the dynamic do in September 2012.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Scott Nezranter and Michael H Weber were brought into rewrite the script.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then, uh, producers include, uh, gone and Peter Saffron for DCs, Anderson's sidewalks, Matt Reeves for six, uh, in Idaho, Michael, New Zealand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So my thing is this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that James is still wanting to keep them separate as well with what things as far as the past and Batman goes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they haven't even cast as a new Batman yet, but we're getting a

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[SPEAKER_01]: I already go another wrong route so the movie's been delayed it was supposed to come out actually last year then it moved to this year and now the time of October 1st, 27.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got script delays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's in that kind of bad sign man it's like it's like you know and I just feel like if you're arguing when you're dating you're going to be divorced to get married you know like it's it's it's a bad sign to start off with so much contingent and it's not that Robert Patterson isn't great I think that

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[SPEAKER_01]: That version of Batman doesn't fit who he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I was absolutely well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was watching over the holidays, Richard, you know, like, you know, like, come on, I mean, I was like, he could play Batman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, he could play Batman in that universe, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, Madison, Madison is, I don't wanna say George Clooney, that's not fair to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, because George Clinton was a little over the top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Paterson is a little bit more serious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, how does it is nice?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's already been there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw him right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know if he sees me, he's going to be like so I'm nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I can't believe that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm like, not like nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like you're just like, you're a nice part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm going to say you can't be a, you can't be a jerk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying like, that man is not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The problem with Batman is you got a pick and to me, no Batman, even though I still have Michael Keynes number one, been to, has never really was a great Bruce or a great bat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was either a great Bruce, you know, it was just a flip-flop, it was never and, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to be great at both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have to be able to exist in a universe that wants to be intrigued.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And right now, I just think with the climate and everything, nobody wants us to close or recluse billionaire that has no identity is only socially acting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just seems standoffish and it just doesn't go with the vibes of the times, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Robert Patterson, I think, for his sake,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's best if you don't, and you back out, and to me allow somebody like a preacher, or as funny as it sounds, even if you wanted to go goofy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was worth, and I said this, you could get the work of play both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If Captain America did play Johnny's play from the human torch on Fantastic Four, and Captain America, he could do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For me, I know the gun said this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, Patterson's Batman is going to be a separate from the DCU Batman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're going to pick somebody else for that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm fine with the fact that we have two different Batman in this universe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited about the Clayface movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been wanting Clayface, he's underrated as a villain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's good to have an underrated villain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you need to give us

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[SPEAKER_00]: another Batman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to give us another face for this DCU.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though we have an elsewhere, that man, I want to see what you have for this, you know what I'm saying, for this version of Batman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm excited for the Batman movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to see what we're getting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it took them a while because Matt was going, Matt Reeves was going to her divorce and stuff like that, which also slowed things down as far as the script writing goes and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You also have a lot of other things that fell into place too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, is it happening as if not happening?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think now maybe people might actually think, okay, well, we waited too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's time to give the Batman up and put another new face and just make it the DCU.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying and I like the Batman don't get me wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like Patterson does Batman and Bruce Wayne and stuff like that, but even I know it's time to actually give Something up so that way we can actually have something else that's it Alan Richardson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Alan Richardson, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He should be Batman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's you get a face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You give him the face of Batman because what, because you know he can play region.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're not to worry about him getting in shape, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's young enough where he can appeal, but at the same time, you get a very mature Batman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you can have a very dark Batman with Alan, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Versus kind of a, I don't know what's that like a gothic, but very kind of just weird Batman with Robert, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need grungy, creatine, steroid Batman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't need refined slick hair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like that doesn't work with Batman, you know, Batman, Batman is every man's,

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I mean by that like, if you ask the average man like, how do they see themselves?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They say, I'm Batman, you know, and you're destroying that, put it in a wicker state.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so, give us the Batman we all want to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for me, I want to go with Brandon's coach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to, you know what, there's actually another guy that I like because Brandon's goin' hard, I think it's his name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I really like him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he would actually be able to embody that, um, bats, not only bats, but also Bruce Wayne as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Brendan's gonna hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, gonna hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he would be really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he was in 1923.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, he's in the yellow stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's in yellow stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, okay, he can play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see what you mean, okay, yeah, he could play and he's an American actor, okay, so that's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, so he has the look you definitely can add size to him, yeah, I mean, he could play it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's what I'm saying like there's there has to be a foundation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to say what does Batman mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think a lot of times when it comes to these casting calls is what does this character mean in the perception of society?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then how do we want to evolve it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like Robert Downey Jr. can, oh, not Robert Downey Jr. but Iron Man can only be played by two people, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he the Arty J or Tom Cruise?

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[SPEAKER_01]: like there wasn't a debate on who else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It couldn't be played.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are the two go to people at that time was Tom Cruise or him or your RDJ.

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[SPEAKER_01]: RDJ.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it will Smith play Iron Man and I love Will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be so bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, be just a cartoon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, two cartoony and will's not naturally a butthole like you have to be naturally like this is really like you even if it's not you right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Snarky you have to be a womanizer you have to be and don't get me wrong back on my glory was a womanizer and stuff with that to that effect, but he was not a rich billionaire who had money and that could do all the things are to jay was doing here that snarkiness and that quickness with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to where you can believe that that started Tony Stark any also a body who Tony Stark is just as Tom Cruise could also do that same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just has a little bit more of a smoother, slower type of style probably on how to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, Artige was just quick on his feet when it came down the Iron Man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he had look, he has had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Artige has the gift of dab like he can just fire

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes, the character plays you or you play the character, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's art and taking life like, if it's not in you, you can't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter how talented you are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Will is talented.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He could have done it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Robert Patterson is talented as Batman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he is not in him to be the savior of Gotham, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't think Gotham City don't think Robert, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you need somebody that exudes that, that kind of has that like, I don't need anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that kind of just like almost dark vibe, but it's like it works for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what he could have been, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like I think they need to, and I'm saying this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll in on here, they need to do an homage to Pierce Bros. Nick for James Bond.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's set up the new James Bond with Idris Elbow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want Idris Elbow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want him as game 007.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been seeing this for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want Idris.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we want Idris.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People want Idris.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, we like Superman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like Superman as double on 7.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, so let's go on ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we talked a lot of comic books stuff and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's wrap it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to do, do you want to talk about dirty dancing getting a sequel after all these years?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's wrap it up like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the long-awaited, dirty dancing sequel that no one asks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, with star Jennifer Gray returning us Francis, baby houseman will soon mombo its way into movie theaters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Line gates has taped the Hunger Games and crazy rich Asians producer in a jack of Jacobson and Brad Simpson to oversee the movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With the studio eyeing a starter production later, this year's screenplay will be written by

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[SPEAKER_00]: Humanity's prize winner Kim Rosenstock or dying for sex.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's going to be himming it dirty dancing remains as beloved today as it was upon the initial release.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we know we knew that a very special group of people would have to come together for fans to embrace the return.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to kill her men's uh we are beyond thrilled to announce we have a sum of the perfect team to carry this film forward in partnership with Jennifer Gray and a full uh folgison lion's game motion picture group chair said of the new developments so my thing is this who asked for this um right you guys even

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[SPEAKER_00]: We actually had dirty dancing Savannah nights as well, which nobody has for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We also didn't ask for another remake of a Petra Sways move that came out roadhouse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is actually going to be hard coming back in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, is she going to be teaching somebody else how to dirty dance?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it going to be like a female role and then there's a male role coming in where she has to now teach that kid how to dance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like she has to learn also to wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been 40 years since the original dirty dancing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So is this going to take place in the 90s?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, dirty dancing for me, Patrick's ways you got her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're, well, okay, this will happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a fan base that is very into the arts and it does well on Broadway, does well on the stage play, and it starts resonating and somebody says,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If it worked, you know, on, you know, the stage, I know there comes a Chicago, look at the film production, if it's working in the New York Opera House, this will work on the big screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is, there's a big difference between Broadway and IMAX.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's two different audiences, two different perspectives, two different viewpoints.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just because it's the same story, doesn't mean it's gonna have the same effect, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, dirty dancing is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If your budget is over $5,000, you know, is not going to have the splash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, it was interesting because the academy likes to give awards to, I was not performance, not all of you saw that for these, it doesn't make sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're asking it walk away with two or three awards and you wouldn't even be like, how, why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it has that and I think that sometimes

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[SPEAKER_01]: These get retrofitted because there isn't enough direction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they had to spend the money, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like this one was there, they had to spend it, you know, no offense to anybody that's involved with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that there's other projects that could have been green lit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, that's my justification for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not, here's like, I like dirty dancing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like, I even have the soundtrack as a kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I don't see myself going to see a sequel to it even though Jennifer, uh, even though you had the original actress that was in it to play baby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even if this took place 40 years which is going to be in the 90s, you don't have Patrick Swazey doing this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And is this going to be her morning over Patrick Swazey and her trying to find her way into dancing again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then as next thing you know, it's going to be step up, but it's going to be drugged dancing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so depressed now and if it wasn't for this one guy at this studio who happens to be trouble that's just happens to be like baby and the same personality as baby I would not have been able to dance

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I just don't see a working.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I need to see what it is on paper and then also what the trailer is and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even then, I'm like, I'm not gonna be the target audience to go see this movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this not necessary?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, we need to create a category.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, this would create a category called not necessary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I'm going to move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I don't know why you made this not necessary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't see anybody saying, hey, look, you know what I mean, it's been a while since I done the mom though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I want to do dirty dancing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't say anybody doing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, what do you guys think you guys at home that's watching listening and all that stuff I want to know are you guys wanting a dirty dancing movie maybe Vernon I run maybe maybe this is something that you guys want this because we don't want it doesn't mean they you don't want it with anything about the Robert Patterson stuff we would like to actually know comment tell us what you think but Vernon I do appreciate you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to, we need to petition Hollywood, we're going to start today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to new Batman and it can't be robbered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No offense, Rob, Rob.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We love you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not trying to take money out of your pocket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do a lot of great things, just not this thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give us the Batman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We all want.

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