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July 29, 2025

Dexter Ressurection: Call Me Red Review

Dexter Ressurection: Call Me Red Review

In this episode of Movie Lovers Unite, we break down Dexter: Resurrection Episode 4 – “Call Me Red.” Dexter attends a mysterious gathering hosted by a highly influential figure with macabre ambitions, setting the stage for dark revelations. Meanwhile, Harrison continues to spiral under the weight of guilt and pressure at work—just as Angel Batista makes his arrival in New York City.


We analyze the symbolism, tension, and clues hidden throughout the episode, plus share our predictions for what’s coming next.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And hello, movie lovers, in welcome to show us the day I actually have my good friends, Jason Pitts, anesthesia, helping with me.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And we're gonna be talking about Dexter episode four, call me red.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So let's go ahead and let's do this.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And hey guys, welcome back to the show.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I do appreciate you guys joining me for Dexter Resurrection, call me red.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, midjohn, awesome to be back.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's awesome to have you back as well in the stage.

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[SPEAKER_06]: right and you know what though I was geeking out through this whole entire episode right because of the fact that we finally get to the serial killer party and what I love about this is we're not sure what this party say we're actually like Dexter though we don't know what to expect from this party we don't understand where they're going with this party or anything like that which is as scared as Dexter is a little bit and also like how Harry's like looked actually need to listen to me

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[SPEAKER_06]: We actually lure people in to capture serial killers or any type of criminals to do that like this is like well, it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I already have backup he ends up putting a blade in his pocket just so he can have a way to kill somebody but also like

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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, we talked about this the last week.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Remember where we were like, I wonder if he's going to do with the thumb and if he's going to just carry the thumb with him.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And the way he does it is just so smart.

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[SPEAKER_06]: We're taking the thumb front from from the victim and doing it that way, which I thought was a lot more clever way than what I thought it was.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I thought he was just going to carry around a black thumb, the whole entire time.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But flies going around with magnets on it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But still, what do you guys think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think that three times trying the thumb is a little too much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like that would have been a big red flag for even Thurham's character to stand in there watching them do that three times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my only issue with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I would have only had it not work one time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think twice just was too much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about for you, Anastasia?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think that whole building up with a thumb printer, it's kind of like mission impossible, him creating.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was so cool that at work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I agree with the three times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that feels like me, like if my car doesn't work when I'm going through the grocery line or I'm like returning something at Whole Foods from Amazon and like I can't find it fast enough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I would just

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[SPEAKER_02]: probably have passed out on the ground just being so nervous, especially all of that state for Dexter in that moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like if it didn't happen the second time, then Uma Thurman's character, I feel like she wouldn't just pull the, you know, kill Bill or just like slash him and have.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Because she was already on the fence, right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad that they did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was worried about how he's going to juggle the finger.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They kind of problem solved that issue because I literally thought that there would be a scene where like the finger rolls away and he's got a like stab at her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, look, I just thought it was going to be something like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Which I would have enjoyed, but it was I didn't think that it would go that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that was kind of a fun exciting twist.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Same here.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I think that it actually is very fitting for a forensics person to be able to do that versus it doing the way that we thought about it because we don't think like a forensics person.

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[SPEAKER_06]: We think of us as a civilian.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So it was actually a peric way of how texture would handle it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And especially when on the throne is actually searching him.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I don't think there would be a way that actually hide that from her.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I totally understand it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And his mouth.

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[SPEAKER_06]: What's wrong?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Nothing.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I just got to go ahead and shoot this up for a second.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'll be right back.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I do like the fact that Omythurman is don't even trust Dexter's right out of the gate either because we're dealing with zero killers.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And so when you see her

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[SPEAKER_06]: Telling him not not so fast because if he already knows red it reds ammo is to go in the back seat and kill somebody But I wonder if she does that with every serial killer though It's like now you're gonna write up here for me I'm not taking no chances so I'd like how she's She's in the know about how these serial killers operate because of Peter Dichlic's character and He probably gives her a whole bio of each character that he picked up So it wouldn't be surprising to me that she's actually on the fence with these guys

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[SPEAKER_06]: But I definitely like the fact that umetherments just that woman who is for higher and basically takes these uh, serial killers to this party.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel like she's like a hired assassin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like she would know what she's doing out in the field.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought that was very smart to acknowledge that trait of red that she can't trust him in the vaccine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I agree that I feel like she probably cause that's a special with everybody because they're all crazy and killers and used to getting away with things because they're on the street still.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that little detail was a big detail, and I'm glad that they kind of acknowledged it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm also kind of making suspicions about her, where I don't fully trust this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's just the hired hand, like, kind of shooting something and everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just using, like, a deep-flinch as, like, a deep-boy or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that would be a good question for me if you ended up being more important.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's actually an interesting twist.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't think about about it like that.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe she gives a serial killer.

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[SPEAKER_06]: She knows how a serial killer's operates.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And basically, he's in the know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or she's collecting these people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I'm very suspicious of her being kind of a side character because she commands the screen so well, you know.

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[SPEAKER_06]: She does have a present about her.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she decks away at certain times, like, okay, I'll watch over, you know, the monitors, and she's ready to go if there's an alarm, you know, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was that small detail where Peter tells Dexter that she doesn't like what I'm about to show you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when they go into the vault with like, so it's like, there's that little detail where it's like she doesn't, she doesn't like what he does, but she's like just there for the money kind of as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's true, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of the vibe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what she does is, do you want to prove the serial killer stuff?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, she doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I'm going to read those.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't like her.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I said she maybe she doesn't like the trophy.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: She definitely doesn't like the trophy aspect because remember the look that she gives Dexter when she goes, uh, you have your trophy because yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And he ends up giving her the driver's license with the X on it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: The red X. She's like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't really like this.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But I have to go with it because I'm getting paid.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So.

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[SPEAKER_06]: She definitely doesn't like that.

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[SPEAKER_06]: She actually feels uncomfortable with it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But yet, she's also comfortable with peer-declitch paying her to pick up these serial killers.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So she makes it just as bad as peer-declitch is for actually entertaining this idea of a serial killer party and picking them up.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So, I'm wondering if Dex is going to go on ahead and put her on the table later on after he gets some killing all these other serial killers.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Because like he said, this is a serial killer buffet.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He can go ahead and wipe out all these serial killers and he can be the last one standing and then take out big-licing self.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't it be interesting if with Urban's character was like

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[SPEAKER_01]: After a certain serial killer and his with Peter Dinkbisch just like hopefully this this killer will eventually come to his thing and it's like she's out for revenge and that's like her whole motivation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't think we have something in the back of the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's definitely something more than her just being an instrument.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Whenever she's a cop, when if she's actually an undercover cop investigating Peter Dicklage and she's been on to him for years and she wasn't in now is actually coming to a head for her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like Peter Dinklage, I feel like he, his character is very thorough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, if you'd have to be in deep, deep cover, or maybe he thinks that she's crooked or so, there's something, you know, because I'm also, I mean, not to get too far ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The whole, when Dexter is there, he's touching buttons with the wrong finger, he's giving the hat, like there's all kinds of things where they are gonna know, like they're gonna figure out, and also it's like if, uh, ink legit characters, so in this serial killers, like why does he not notice that that's obviously Dexter, you know, like,

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, there's not a face to for the Bay Harbor butcher per se.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, dogs was actually the Bay Harbor butcher, but at the same time, though, they should give themselves away with intention to slides.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think as far as I think as far as the world, the world knows the Bay Harbor butcher's dead and it's dogs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I don't think unless they do a really deep dive in like study all of the cops and the people that worked on the cases, I don't think they would know who Dekstra is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Which I feel like they have some time on their hands and a limited resources.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like that could happen in theory.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, but yeah, Dekstra was definitely he was fondling, you know, that was not like I got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get, I'll tell you, I got chills when when I saw the sides.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I was happy to see finally the slides and also two.

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[SPEAKER_06]: The extra was also just as happy as we are as an audience seeing them for the first time in years and now he's got, he feels like he has a sense of home now that he's seen the slides.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But the same time though,

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[SPEAKER_06]: This is another thing, I was kicking out over the serial killer stuff from Dexter stuff that he collected.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's like as us as fans who are fans of Dexter, we would actually collect certain props, not saying the serial killer props, but certain props for our own personal stuff from Dexter.

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[SPEAKER_06]: just as Leon, who's played by Peter Dinklage, collects stuff from Dexter.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, the thing that I was kicking out was like, wow, you actually paid an FBI agent to take the Bay Harbor butcher table, or, uh, big, true, true.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And you had that and you paid off an FBI agent for this.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Then you have wing glazed graces clown outfit.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You also have other serial killer memorabilia.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting how they like weave like actual cases in the fabrication of the series.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's, you know, it kind of like makes it grounded.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I feel like if nothing else,

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's going to be a standoff and Dexor is going to want to get his slides back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like, that's absolutely exciting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The death deed, you know, like he's going to have to die.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because nothing, I feel like nothing, he had such a reaction.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and I did too, you know, just seeing like what it relief to get like have those and then to protect those for, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like there's definitely going to be some like high noon standoff going on at some point.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I definitely agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to make this interesting guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This relationship with Dexter and Mia, Kristen Ritter, how do you how do you guys see this going like this he see because of her ML where she where she kills sexual assault people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of similar to his code where he kills super or he kills serial other serial killers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you think that he might kind of see her in a positive light and not kill her, not want to kill her?

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[SPEAKER_06]: I could see it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I could see them teaming as like a vigilante serial killer system, but it's all about the trust and building that trust up with her, just as she's trying to build that trust up with him.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But I just don't want it to be in a situation with Ms.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Parton Mike Tits from one of the season from one of the dexter episodes because we remember he fell in love with that girl and that girl turned into a total entire psychopath.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, remember the British woman that he falls in love with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the pyromaniacs like season two.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I call it part of my tits because that's which he says.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So that's the nickname I gave her because I can't remember her actual character name.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I just call it part of my tits, but I just don't want him to go through that same thing that he went through with her.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But I do see maybe, uh, then what, uh, teaming up and actually taking down maybe the mysterious killers at the table.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Probably.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like right now, I feel like Dexter is just trying to get a handle unlike what is going on in this situation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You've been here longer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not telling her what's actually happening, but he's pretending to be another serial killer, so he has even more at stake because now he's like double down and lied in front of everybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel, so I don't feel like there's like much chemistry right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But from me aside, I feel like she's trying to figure out what his deal is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because she doesn't like people, you know, she's for revenge.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like she's like kind of testing the water to see what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so she's like flirting with him to get closer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's kind of her MO.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like, I mean, we'll learn more about her as the, you know, episodes go on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like, I don't know, it kind of feels a little bit like what was, is like kind of girlfriend was that Lumin were, they were out for revenge for her abusers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it kind of feels like on that that line, not really the British lady because she was crazy and she was going to literally like destroy Dexter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think me as like as far from one episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think she's evil.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's trying to you know right the wrong doings just like texture in a way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like he's harnessing his like quote unquote evil for good right now

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[SPEAKER_06]: you know what they're nothing you mentioned and she it is kind of like women in the sense of you know with that with that character too.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I totally get it now and get now done on mission and yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I agree with you on that.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Then the dinner scene where Dexter's expecting me, he's wanting, and then he has to learn that he's a vegetarian.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And I just thought that was incredibly funny where he's actually mixing the cauliflower in with some of the other stuff to give it some extra flavor because he does not like that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So we have to try to figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He also needs to go ahead and eat it because otherwise it's going to cause attention to himself.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But then it's show and tell with sclero killers.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then there's also the other thing with the baseball bat where it's like, hey, look, if you guys step under line break the rules, you're going to die.

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[SPEAKER_06]: here.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And Leon winds up telling him, so you guys need to follow the rules.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Then we have the tattoo artists who's doing show in tell and saying, this is going to be my next victim.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And it's not completed yet.

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[SPEAKER_06]: The tattoo is not completed yet played by Neil Patrick Harris.

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[SPEAKER_06]: play.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, and I just thought it was definitely different to see Neil Patrick Harris play this kind of character.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And I'll just love how dialed in he is as this character because you actually believe it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm actually having goosebumps whenever I'm watching him.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, you're a creepiest hill.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You need a die.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I hope Dexter puts a knife through you.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But you're doing such a damn good job acting your ass off right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm super sad that

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[SPEAKER_01]: probably only gonna get one episode with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the diner, when he was watching her, he looked so engrossed and he was salivating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did such a good job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'm sad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to see more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I enjoyed his performance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm also like, okay, so I love the other serial killer Eric Stone Street because I'm a huge modern family fan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like one of our go-to shows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've rewatched all of the modern family episodes, like probably twenty, you know, it's just a go-to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I love seeing him and like a darker, because he plays his role so upbeat and fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's kind of

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, even this serial killer is kind of like a fun, jovial guy, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm curious to see like more like maybe go on a hunt with him and see what his deal is because obviously there's something unhinged happening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he puts on a very good facade.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like being a family guy and soft-spoken and well-manored.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that whole scene with the dinner, like having those big, like, they look like Tomahas steaks, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're a little sledge raw, which I was like, I'm also a vegetarian.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was actually excited about Dekster's meal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like,

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[SPEAKER_06]: Here's the album, actually our Dexter's meal.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I was actually on par with Dexter's meal that we had from all the other seasons.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm like, because I like stakes and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But you know, I like that whole entire attention to detail and how they put it, it implemented it into this episode, because they mentioned it just for a little bit, and then they put it into it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I like that little attention to detail with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought like one of his biggest tells was that when he left the dinner he immediately went and got two chili dogs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be outed immediately, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: there's like so many things like I'm like oh you're touching things they've got your DNA on like the forks and the wine glasses and they have all of this stuff and I'm like you're being too to have a layer with with this like let's rain it in a little bit because like right I don't want him to ever be caught I'm the same way as you I mean I would have actually had my balls up not really touching that much stuff

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you would think with his history with law enforcement and knowing how people get caught constantly he would have been but also I understand that there is a freedom where he feels like in a certain way he's at home with like-minded individuals and who have these urges that he feels like an outsider and a monster all the time even though he's like focused his

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[SPEAKER_02]: evil stuff into positive like getting rid of other people who are actually doing evil wrongdoings towards innocence you know but yeah I was like okay let's let's ring it you know back like let's come down let's be a little bit more guarded like I don't want to see you in jail unlike the fifth episode

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[SPEAKER_06]: But I wouldn't jump piggyback on something that you said, Anastasia, though, too, with the serial killer who has a family life.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Don't forget, we also seen that with the Trinity killer as well, where he was trying to have a family life and also be a serial killer.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Just as Dexter was trying to have a normal life in half at all, too.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And you also get to see the little details with the Trinity killer with the hammer.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I thought that was pretty cool for the thing.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, and maybe Dexter's house has that question of,

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[SPEAKER_06]: like how do I juggle being a serial killer and also being a father to my son because I didn't get that money that much answers from the Trinity killer.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So maybe this killer might actually give me some advice because he's been married for a good forty plus years and he's been doing this for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, when we look into like the Trinity killer's family life, it's so

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[SPEAKER_02]: toxic, you know, like the wife is obviously abused and to, you know, giving him positive reinforcement.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a healthy living situation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like mean to his kids, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just, that's not a good example for downstairs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean his whole thing with his son.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how that's going to be fixed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope he figures it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He told me to help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was really interesting, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first thing he does is start showing them pictures of his kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, there's obviously like a level of love and for his family there, he's proud of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's definitely interesting dynamic.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's like he may be a killer by night by by day.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He's a family man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's not a gay who he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I if I remember right Gacy was like that, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Gacy had a family and they had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of feel like I was a lot like Gacy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's kind of like it's like hover, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to hear normal and that that nothing's wrong so that you can get away with the stuff for as long as possible, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, and with the theory that is the, does the family actually exist?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it like a bait situation where, you know, like nobody's actually there?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, is it?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Because we're taking this as base value too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: as well.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So it could be a split personality by polar disorder kind of thing too that could happen because Dexter doesn't know this guy, but yet you're going to try and trust this guy and try to get to know this guy, but you don't know anything about him or his history.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a family.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like all of these serial pillars are kind of like they're on the chopping block with Dexter and they're like his next victims, you know, and you're trying to get close it up with them to kind of figure out what's going on, what these dinners, how intense is like, linkage character, you know, because like it feels, it feels like he's just like figuring out his odds, you know, and

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[SPEAKER_02]: He gets close to them, and then maybe... Bigger's out there a week has.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But I do like the, what do you think about Dexter just being the only one that shows that first?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Because I hate being the first in a party.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I feel awkward as hell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think when I run, I think of myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Peter Dinglish's character had Uma Thurman bring him first so that he can have some alone time with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was by design.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Because he doesn't know anything either.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He just knows him by

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[SPEAKER_06]: that by that one name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I don't think human terms character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I feel like the first time these serial killers get an invite, she brings them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, they come on their own.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But what do you guys think about the whenever dexter ones that finally kill in the tattoo artist?

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[SPEAKER_06]: And he's like, by the way, I'm the big harbor butcher.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, then he was, I've said, I thought this whole entire setup was really good.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I really like the dark humor within that part.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I really felt like it worked and then him getting the

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[SPEAKER_06]: the blood sample sample, like we've seen in all the other dexter stuff that we got in and he's like, oh, you do that?

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's kind of lame.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then as he's doing this, dexter is still in control of the situation.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I'd like how dexter's like kind of in like kind of just murking it like, okay, I'm gonna tell him who I am.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then there's a shock, like, oh shit.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But do you guys like?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, go ahead, Jason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, I mean, I thought it was a cool line of him being able to say, you know, I'm Dexter Morgan, the Bay Harbor butcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now the reaction on the other end from, you know, have Patrick Harris.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he knew he was going to die anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why he freaked out so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because he, he already resided and resigned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was going to die.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't think who Dexter is, should have mattered that much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he just completely freaked out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, shit.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I think it's the most of the fact that you're already a book as far as you did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that part kind of, I was just like, okay, but like I love Dexter, you know, being able to say that line and having that look as I, like I am, I am me, you know, finally, after all this time, taking control of his identity, I loved that, but Neil Patrick Harris's reaction to that, I thought was a little over the top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I overall, I liked it, it was cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who are you in a stage?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I love like when we get like hints and flashbacks to like OG Dexter and him and his elements.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like I am ravenous for those moments.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that you know, like that's kind of my favorite.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The others have just kind of fluffy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see him as element and you know, getting these like bad guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, so whenever we get that,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm such a happy girl.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I am too.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm very happy with the whole entire setup of it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And whenever I see him in his element like that, it makes me geek out, makes me go back to the original texture over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But now let's talk about the fact that we're dealing with Harrison again.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, because I wanted to actually talk about this.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Because the teaser shows back up, but I like how Harrison winds up saying, let me guess you're not here to talk about happy family time so over at Miami.

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[SPEAKER_06]: just to paraphrase it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And he winds up telling him, well, you sold the car to your friend, which also led him back over to Harrison.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then you have Harrison who is still dealing with the fact that he killed somebody.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And he's about to turn himself in.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then you see Dexter pop up because, oh, I was like, oh, now you want father of the year.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Now you want to show up.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, he's wherever you three episodes ago where you just, you know, letting him do his thing.

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[SPEAKER_06]: As soon as he turns himself into the cops, because you know, he's going to write you out, but I'm meaning to write you out.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But he's going to write you out, but Harrison still thinks he's dead.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But what do you guys think about that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm okay with, like, I wish it would have happened sooner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand one and stretch it out and increase the drama and the tension of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think me personally, I think the most interesting thing about that whole side of the story is that Angel doesn't tell Harrison that Dixon's alive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just let's Harrison go on believing that he killed his dad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that part is really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I want to see obviously I want to see this

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[SPEAKER_01]: confrontation between Harrison and Dexter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now I want to see Harrison and the Tista their next meeting and see how that goes with Harrison knowing that Dexter's alive and trying to hide that he knows that Dexter's alive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's all going to be really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I think so too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel like

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is dragging out quite a bit, this subplot and, you know, like, I feel like this could all be solved with just like a sit down with Dexter and Harrison and like, cause like Dexter other than running away and maybe feeling like he's being harassed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He hasn't done anything wrong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: on paper, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But now it's just a feeling, which yeah, I mean he's like, you know, what they say, could mother rocker, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think he's a little spooky, but I feel like he's, um, what's the agency?

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[SPEAKER_02]: that he said, he's like really like harassing the family.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He's like, this retired cop who hasn't left.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He's like that retired cop that is retired, but it's not left the police force.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's nuts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like if we got the three of them together, they could be like, OK, so I'm, you know, sorry that you suspect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It suspect me, but I'm just loving my life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to reconnect with my son, like everything that's explainable right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop her out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can actually tell, like, a corner, right?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Because it feels like the teacher trained in spots for dogs at this moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're definitely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that was like, you know, it's like, OK, enough and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We get it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, they're dragging out the supply and trying to keep the, you know, that character in which I like the actor, but it just feels like we're grasping at straws.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's kind of like it's a little boring for me, just because like there isn't really anything for him to do, except like kind of little grumpy.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But it's like a WWE match where they just decide, hey, we're gonna put the undertaker in for the sake of having the undertaker in there.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, you know, I'm saying just for base value and stuff just to pop them there.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's like a surprise of cameo and then moving along.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's like we have we have so much subplot going on we really don't need this added because just with Harrison alone with that that investigate that detective woman that's enough drama to like keep that story afloat and then him feeling remorse about his first kill and then the the the watch haunting him you know he's like having anxiety and about that which again, it's like

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder why he doesn't just give that to the detective woman because that doesn't really implement him in anything other than she already knew that the guest, uh, favorite him and would put do era he would do errands for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's such a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I think from his standpoint, with his first murder, his anxieties up a lot, and he's a winning-year-old kid that just killed somebody.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So he doesn't really, he's not really thinking straight either.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I think it's a lot to do with his anxiety and also the age and everything rolled into one big, huge mess for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel like he was definitely going into like confess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he was gonna like out his dad at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's an even on there.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It would be different if the piece that was already there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Dexter wasn't even on Harrison's right or either because he thought he was dead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I don't think he was gonna out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot that we find like, because I'm like, okay, when is this like, let's wrap it up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll get to the good parts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad that we have that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm looking forward to seeing how

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, does he and does Harrison end up moving in with Dexter, you know, because like he's homeless right now still, right?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He's still homeless.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which is an added stress.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I get that he's, you know, kind of defenseless right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's not sure which way to go, but I feel like he has enough to stand on to not get convicted, because everything just hypothetical right now.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And I want to mention this.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You mentioned the fact that three of them needs to sit down.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I want this to be like a heat moment where they sit in a restaurant with bitista and they have that sit down and they talk about things because I think that'll be the perfect way to actually get rid of bitista in a nice way to where Dexter doesn't have to kill him.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'll put him on the table because he's already trying to put these other killers on the table.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So he doesn't need more collateral with it as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the one thing is being edited?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's really powerless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he finds Dexter and confronts him, where do they go from that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, other than his suspicion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know how like Dexter likes to come from people like leave me alone that kind of stuff like I would like to see Dexter do that like leave me and my family alone you have like there's you know It's nothing for you here that you've lost people You know, but like I had nothing to do with it because right now he has not he has nothing on them It's just a feeling right and right now he's actually making himself insane and it's like

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[SPEAKER_02]: if the Miami police found out about him harassing, I feel like he would be in so much trouble because he's got a reckoning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's technically retired and he's technically retired and running around flashing his badge, which I think I would think would be illegal, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's paying for this are the.

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[SPEAKER_06]: This don't be high.

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[SPEAKER_06]: There's no family member.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No, there's no family member a pain.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They but Tista.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's paying for the next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's out of his own pocket.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's using all of these resources.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We know that he's right, okay?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Normal people, you know, everybody else, he's just harassing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he literally lots his whole family, tragically, you know, has like why all like Dexter went through it on paper.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and even more off-paper, you know, that we saw the struggles that he's dealt with and still persevered.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so just on paper, it looks like it's guy, it lost everything and he's just trying to put his life back together and reconnect with his son.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it looks like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, like, let's just, we can look, I can look at that this up a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm seeing the old character, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do like, I do like the motif of the watch ticking, even though when it's impossible for him to hear it, it reminds me of the tail tail heart with the underground post story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I dig that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_06]: As if it's like ticking down to something that we as an audience don't know about yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I taunting him.

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[SPEAKER_06]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's making these crazy choices just to get away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: from that and the guilt.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So is there anything else that you guys want to talk about as far as this episode goes?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope Dexter is less reckless.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was like, this is wrong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is wrong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, honing in like be careful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think of hope that we get a moment because like, I don't think this bunch of people would care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't know red.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, he was a new guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they would care at all if Dexter, you know, uh, have an himself like this is what I do, you know, accept me or not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it would be fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like they would

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[SPEAKER_02]: they would actually enjoy it more.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I think that's a bigger badass than, you know, Leon would definitely get out of the fact that he has the Bay Harbor butcher in his home.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I think he would feel like he won the lottery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think there's that reveal working could just like put it out on the line because he feels it feels like he's at that tipping point where he doesn't want to hide from everyone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he wants essence of community and a type of family and he wants to reconnect with a son and help him and he just wants to move on and he wants to do what he's good at and that's like you know going after like evil doers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I feel like there's a version of this story where he could just own up to being himself, Dr. Morgan, and still deal with this dinner.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it might be heightened because like, it's a good idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a good idea for him to reveal himself as the Bay Harbor butcher when the Bay Harbor butcher killed serial killers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good point.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's a very good point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it would be like, he's the biggest badass guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like when villains find out Batman is Batman.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like, go ahead and try me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: See what happened to the other guy.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It might actually make him a threat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I think it's killing people like me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's what we go through my mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I also too, it's a guy.

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[SPEAKER_06]: kind of agree with the illustration though, too, where it's like, I'm dead.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm the big bad of them all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it'd be really risky at his part to reveal himself after thinking about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At first, I was like, oh, yeah, that'd be awesome, but then I'll be like, but then I was like, wait a minute, the Bay Harbor butcher kill serial killers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's something that everybody knew or knows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like Dexter loves a risk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's his thing and he likes getting away with things as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think to like keep up because like he wants a chase.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He wants to be challenged and that's why he goes after that's part of why he goes after to like relieve that

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[SPEAKER_02]: hunger of killing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I feel like he would be up for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It would actually be him like kind of taking control of his destiny and taking control of his powers and owning up to it and be like, I am the most powerful of the lot of you of anybody, you know, in this in this situation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'd like to see that.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I agree and you know I definitely do agree with you guys like the sub plot and stuff like that definitely slows everything down I don't really like to supply I want them to hurry up and get the sub plot over with and get into more dexter stuff

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[SPEAKER_06]: Because I feel like I just piece things up without the supply.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Like you mentioned in this nation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you have a lot of work with the T. I was going to eventually merge with the main plot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can see a situation where textures and real trouble and Harrison saves them by killing one of these simple killers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what in over a set?

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[SPEAKER_02]: In person, like, you know, connect and go after all of them together, you know, because like Harrison's having a hard time coping, and so he needs that, like, father's big, obviously, you know, just like how Dexter needed a father figure to help figure it out, like his urges and everything, and his code.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so just like that reassurance, I feel like would be great for Harrison.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then yeah, I mean, I feel like we're just like being set up to like eventually get to know the serial killers and then one by one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then that's going to be very suspicious for Dexter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're the only one who's like surviving.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody else around you is dying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How long can you keep this up?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's like a survivor serial killer addition.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Who's going to survive the dinner?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, it is going to be very suspect if he's like the only one.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So maybe Lady vengeance has to go on ahead and do some killing of her own.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So where desert, desert doesn't feel suspect at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it has my attention.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It has my attention.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was a little, because I felt like like Avengers, you night kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, we're making this like two superheroish for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm actually liking this sub-laught a little bit more than I did last episode, because like the variations that can go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that gets my mind spiraling in a good way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's keeping my interest.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Same here.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Same here as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was worried that it was going to fizzle and I thought it was going to water down like dexter with too many too many people, but it's it's working out pretty well so far.

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[SPEAKER_06]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's going to be it as far as this goes.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I hope that you guys enjoyed our episode four review of Call Me Red.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But you can call me John.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But we're going to be going on here.

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[SPEAKER_06]: We're going to do this every single Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But we're going to do this is going to be a straight up just audio podcast last video.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And whenever that gets released, we'll go on here.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'll let you guys know when it gets released.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And always until next time, guys, have a great safe day and always until next time.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In a town blanketed in snow, a man hides his truth beneath layers of flannel.