July 30, 2023
The Fed Raised Interest Rates Again - Are You Prepared For What’s Next?
The whole crew is back for another volatile week in the markets. The Federal Reserve raised interest rates another 25 basis points. The latest PCE inflation data came in below expectations which sent markets higher. The first reading of Q2 GDP came in...
The whole crew is back for another volatile week in the markets. The Federal Reserve raised interest rates another 25 basis points. The latest PCE inflation data came in below expectations which sent markets higher. The first reading of Q2 GDP came in higher than expectations. With inflation slowing, strong corporate earnings, and a strong economy and labor market, what's next for markets? Stay informed and stay prepared!If you would like to contact us to learn more about our firm and our process call us at 520.544.4909 or go to our website at www.Greenbergfinancial.com or email us at Contact@Greenbergfinancial.com
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Good morning everybody. It's that time
again. It's Sunday morning. It's eight
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o'clock, it's seven ninety candids tea. This is Dean Greenberg and we're gonna
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bring you the Money Matter Show.
We've been doing a show for a long
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time, as you know, it's
been over thirty three years now, trying
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to do the same thing over and
over again. And it's amazing because I
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remember the last time the dow was
up fourteen days in a well, that
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was nineteen eighty seven, you hear
me, nineteen eighty seven. However it
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was January and not July and and
and all what had happened, but fourteen
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days in a wel we had to
dio. Now, there's good positive things
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with it that the dial usually ends
up higher after that three months later goes
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up there. But you know what, I'm not so sure it's gonna happen
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this time. The markets keep powering
forward and powering forward. But what I've
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known, what I've seen over the
years, the only thing that's making it
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goes is all the like incentive money
that's still out there. The government still
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has money, it's still spending money. Well, eventually that's gonna be inflationary
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again because prices keep going higher.
I don't see prices come down. I
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know on Friday the PC came down. Markets get excited. The day before
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interest rates went up, the market
didn't like it and reversed all the way
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down. We're in a scenario right
now that you can stay invested, but
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I wouldn't be fully invested, and
we could be totally wrong. But you're
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still gonna make some money. Eventually, at some time the market will fall.
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Now here's the other thing. August, September, October are the worst
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months of the year. That time
frame, whether it starts in August or
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September October doesn't much, dude much. Maybe this year woods different. I
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don't know. Maybe he's gonna keep
going. So you stay with your model.
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You never sell everything. We've been
mitigating risk, which obviously will hurt
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a little bit, you know,
but it also gives that protection from where
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it was before. So now what
you have is an opportunity to see pair
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back positions that have run outside of
what your allocation is. If you said
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I don't want more than five percent
in a position and now it's ten percent,
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you got to cut it back.
Yes, you don't have to cut
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it back to five. That's a
good idea, but maybe cut it back
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to seven. Have some cash,
learn how to mitigate risk, because at
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Sunday, just like yesterday, when
the market was all the way up and
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one down, we could have gone
down another day. And then then the
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motivation, the mental part of it, everything changes and then the selling comes
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in, and then the computers hit
the selling phograms and next thing you know,
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you're down five to six seven percent
and you're like, wow, what
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happened? And you need cash to
do in the Other thing is, I'm
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going to talk about this later,
a little later on, is that there's
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always opportunities. The guy's coming to
me this week. You know, we
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just got in some new money.
What are we gonna do where we're looking
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one of the stuff. There are
opportunities, And I'll tell you what those
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opportunities are and how we look at
them and why we're looking at them that
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way. This is the money amount
of show, as you know, and
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it is brought to you by Greenberg
Financial Group. Greenberg Financial Group is a
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broken dealer and a registered investment advisory
registered with the SEC. The members of
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Finer and the members of SIPPIC on
the show. We always talk about different
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products, different strategies, different ideas, individual companies. We kind of tell
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you what the risks are, but
there's risk in everything, and your risk
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tolerance is different than somebody else's risk
tolerance, and only you know that risk
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tolerance. So I don't just take
what we say or anybody else says,
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or anything you eat and just say, hey, I'm gonna go do this
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without understanding the risks. Every investment
bear is some type of risk, So
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understand that prior to investing, and
your risk tolerance should not change when the
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market's going up, because of course
you can hand the risk when you're making
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money. Think about what it is
when the markets are going down. Think
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about now we're going into August,
September, and October. I don't think
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we have just a full off the
cliff thing unless something happens that we don't
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see coming. But I think earnings
have been okay. You know, from
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a year over a year, they're
gonna be good. Twenty two wasn't that
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great a year. This is the
coming into the thirty year the presidency next
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year, so let's see what happens. Most of the year. The stock's
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going up of the Magnificent seven,
and it's all driven by AI artificial intelligence.
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Well and two people's start making money
on artificial intelligence. That whole craze
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wears itself out if it's not creating
cash and creating profits, but only creating
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interest and euphoria. So where do
we sit now? We sit The SMP
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was up one this week, up
three for the month, and up nineteen
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percent for the year. That stacks
up two three point eight four a month
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and up thirty six percent for the
year. The small caps are one up
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for the week, five percent for
the month, and twelve percent for the
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year. And the one that we
always look at is the equal weighted S
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ANDP A point two percent for the
week, a three percent for the month,
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which is equal to the SMP,
and only up nine percent for the
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year. That makes more sense because
unless you just put all your money in
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the SSP and NASDAC, which means
you're pretty much very high risk type person,
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because it can't, we'll go down
and we'll go up. And I
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know the whole thing is, who
cares it keeps going? Well, it
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doesn't always keep going, guys,
because you know what, what only close
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to forty six hundred, and that's
two hundred somewhat points lower than the highs,
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which means if you did that at
forty eight fifty, you're stole down
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and when you're at thirty nine hundred, you were worried and concerned. I've
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been in this thing a long time. I understand investor psychology. So with
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that, I'm going to go back
to what I was saying, opportunities.
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So they come to this to me
this week and they say, you know,
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I don't want to keep putting money
from the Amazons, the Googles,
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the Apples. You know, it's
just so high I don't want to get
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in and then watch them come down. And then when there I said,
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okay, so what do you do
there is you maybe start with a little
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bit of the index that has them
in there so you can dollar course avage
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if it comes down. But if
you're looking for individual places, let's look,
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Microsoft got beat up. Microsoft got
down to the low three thirties.
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I mean, is it really beat
up to compared to when it was down
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at the low two hundreds now,
but it has come off twenty thirty points
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from its highs. Not a bad
place to start a little position. If
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you don't have any If you're trying
to get self invested and you have all
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this cash, what's the other thing? Raight Theon? We live here,
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we know Raith Theon, Raytheon's not
going away. Raytheon have some trouble with
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their engines. They got to take
a look at it. No different than
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bowing with their planes. These are
in short term plays. When they turn
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around, when you get in and
Rython under eighty five popped a little bit,
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who knows where it goes? You
can come a little unto eighty Raytheon's
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not going away, be smart about
it. And the other one when I
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got down the thirday could tell people, you know, Target, Target is
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not you know, got hit for
the same reason bud Light died. But
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Target changed their philosophy pretty quickly yet
rid of what was bothering people went the
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other way and back to school.
So you know, you pick it up
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twenty eight thirty and now it's about
thirty six dollars. There's opportunities all the
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time, even when the markets are
rocketing up and you're and you're looking at
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these other stocks and say where do
I put more money? And that's the
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cycle that you go through. Look
for the stocks that guy have gotten hit
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a little bit for one reason or
the other, and the money will flow
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back in and stay with good companies. Raise the UN's a great company,
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Target's a great company, Microsoft's a
great great company. Doesn't mean you're buying
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it at the bottom, but it
means you're buying it a lot less than
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when they were their highs. That
they just had read and lee. And
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that's what you look for. No
different than those banks. Alliance Bank got
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down to eleven dollars, but you
know you might have been able to buy
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it between fifteen and twenty that day. It's back over fifty. Crisis crisis,
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I don't want it was all room
is. But if you invest,
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you gotta look and be quick at
opportunities and pull the switch. Switch your
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mind from being, oh, oh, I gotta buy these things are going
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I'm gonna I'm not gonna. I'm
not gonna be part of it. The
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video's gonna go to a thousand,
I'm not gonna be part of it.
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Well, you didn't buy it,
which for a little bit of a pullback.
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Google Apple, Oh, you'll have
an opportunity. Look for the other
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opportunities in these markets. So you're
an investor says, this is happening a
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lot now too, ultra conservative investor. They're out of the market's got cash
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sitting there, but they want to
go get going. So I started thinking
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about it, and I came up
with a model that's perfect for the ultra
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conservative person. It's called sig cig
conservative income and then get a kicker in
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the growth. It's for preservation of
principle, with the opportunity to make some
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money in the market without risking your
principle. How about that? Okay,
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how about that? So you go
in. There's a couple of different ways
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to do it. But you've got
government bonds, right, you got government
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bonds paying you four percent, four
and a half percent whatever it is,
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and the income that's derived off of
it, and the money bought it because
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you remember, you're buying it at
a discount right now, you're buying it
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at a discount usually two ninety three
to be able to get that yield.
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Those bonds will turn into you say, you're doing it on a million dollars.
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You put up nine ten, nine
hundred, twenty thousand that you know
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every time you those that bond ladder
comes due, you're gonna get one hundred
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thousand dollars each bond that you bought
or whatever it is. That million will
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turn into a million, and nine
ten will turn to a million. No
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risk to a principle. You take
the other part and the interest and your
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dollar course average into our growth model
using indexes, not individual stocks indexes.
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You'd be surprised over time three years, four years, five years, seventy
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years, ten years, how much
that will grow for you. And you
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sleep at night. You know why
you sleep at night. Your principal's secure
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by the government bonds. Ultra conservative
investors that want preservation a principle, but
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understand to keep up with the inflation, we need to get some growth over
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time. So you do a five
year program, three year pro whatever it
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is you want to put it away. Right the worst case scenario, if
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the markets all want to zero,
the government bonds pay off, you're right
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back to leash your principle. Of
course, you're gonna have more than that.
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The indexes aren't going to go to
zero. The interest is going to
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come in. But unlike insurance people
with that SIG, they're guaranteeing it through
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annuities. We can't use the word
guarantee. So I'm telling you you'll it's
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preservation a principle, getting your income
that turns into growth. Sig CIG conservative
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investors who have cash on the sidelines
that are afraid to get into the market
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right now because it's where it is, and you use the opportunity over time
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to do it. Take advantage of
the interest rates being higher, take advantage
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of dollar course averaging into the markets, and you'll be well rewarded down the
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old The worst case scenario is you
get all your money back, and you've
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heard that story within with the with
the what you call it all day long
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and nuities and nudities, nuities.
But here's the best part. It's tax
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efficient. That's tax deferred. Remember
if you're an in enuity, it's tax
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deferred. You take it out,
you pay taxes on your games. This
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is tax efficient. Why because government
bonds allow you to not have to pay
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state tax. We have state tax
in Arizona. So you say, well,
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not tax, doing the EFT,
doing the e f T the index
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models. You stay in it long
term, which is a year, or
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if it's down, you can sell
and take tax losses and switch from one
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to another. That's why it's tax
efficient long term gains, no state tax
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on the income coming off the US
government bonds. Now that's a way to
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look at it. We're going to
talk about it with all the guys later.
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But there's a model. There's always
something coming up. For all the
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years I've been doing this, we
manage the money ourselves. I've come up
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with the models, the income models, the the the the protection models,
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all the stuff. You know.
We had a protection model. Everybody loved
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to protection model in December twenty two
because guess what, the market went down
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and it did what it was supposed
to, not lose more than ten to
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twelve percent of their original amount of
the accountant people that got in earlier one
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even close to that. Right now, markets are higher. Of course,
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the insurance it's gonna cost you in
your returns. That's how it happened.
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Market goes up, the insurance goes
down. But when the markets wentn't down,
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the insurance was perfect. Now I
have a whole other way of doing
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it for you, the conservative investor, Take it and think about it.
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So that's where we're at in investing
in the markets. You gotta be careful
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where we are, but you gotta
be invested because I don't know if we're
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gonna go to make new highs right
now. I thought the forty two for
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Max would be the highs were close
to forty six. I'm not perfect,
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but I'm still making money. That's
the idea behind it. We know how
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to protect your portfolios. If that's
what you know. If you're fearing,
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if you're scared, if you're nervous, do it. And it all starts
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with the plan, and it ends
with the money management. We do it
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all and why you do it all. It's of course I understand how to
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manage money, but in order to
do it, you got to find out
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what the risk tolerance is, what
your plan is, how much income you
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need, do you have enough income
stream, will you be able to live
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on it? What are you going
to do with the money? Those are
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important. That's why what we the
setup we have as a team right now
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is working fantastic. And all those
people that keep coming in and making appointments,
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I'm glad you have confidence in us
and trust in us to at least
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show you how we do it.
And then so many of you wanting to
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do business with us, and I
think a lot of it is too,
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honestly is we think the same.
We think the same. We we we
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look at the situation in our country, in the world, in our government
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and just can't believe what's happening.
I mean, this week is no different.
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Think about it. They beating up
President Trump again, trying to indict
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him again on garbage to distract us
from what's really going on right in front
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of the world, but the media
doesn't want to expose it. That's disgusting
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to me. How does Biden get
away with all this? No diffen than
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Clinton, but at least Clinton's didn't
have all the social media that really got
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out there. What the Biden's man
think about it? You're catching guys with
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bonds on his lawyer, smoking a
bomb, you know, getting coking in
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the White House, You're getting weed
in the White House. Where's it coming
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from? And the fact that they
don't pin it on anybody else. I'm
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glad to hear that. Okay,
is you know where it's going, you
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know what it's about. And then
they try to sneak through the justice system
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and give Biden's son the ability to
basically don't go to jail, and we're
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gonna and you're gonna get your immunity
right there. We should rise up Democrats,
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Republicans, people in the US and
say hell no, hell no.
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You know they spow all this stuff
about we're all well, no one's above
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the law, except of course,
if you're in a Democrat or you're a
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Clinton, or you're a Biden.
It's time for the people to say no
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more. It's time for us to
say no more, and our judges.
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And I'm glad that judge had some
goods to do this and not just roll
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over. The judges need to stop
letting this happen. They have gotten away
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with so much. I mean,
come on, the judge. Judges in
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Arizona won't even look at the election
information or let it get exposed. Okay,
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expose it, let the people see
it, let them decide. But
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no. But I'm glad as judge
didn't go down the road of just rubbers
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stamping Biden to get immunity to not
not to go to jail all that stuff.
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We know, it's so much more. How are they not talking about
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the money. The money trail I'm
hearing is over fifty million dollars that they're
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going to expose. And you have
iOS agents talking about this talking about these
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millions of dollars and saying his country
club expenses and it's sex club expenses.
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Lie after lie after lie after lie. I couldn't kill less what he does
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in his life. I don't want
him to do be a drug addict.
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I don't want to be, you
know, a degenerate. Okay, I'm
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not happy that he doesn't. But
don't give him a break just because he's
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a president's son. China, Russia, Ukraine, everything that they can't they
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pinned on Trump. They did it
themselves. And now they're trying to put
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Trump in jail when they're doing it
themselves. I mean, think about that.
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Think about somebody that's an absolute lion
narcissist and you catch him with something
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and they turn it and say it's
you, or they always try to get
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you in trouble that even though you
didn't do it, but they know because
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they did it. They knew what
was going on in Russia, they knew
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what was going on in Ukraine,
in China because they were doing it.
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So they were trying to make a
game plan of saying that was Trump.
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Sure, I'm sure it's sub of
Trump's business dealings and everything wearing above boarding,
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great and everything else, but they
haven't been able to nail him on
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that, you know. And I
know if the IRS came after almost anyone
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the stuff, they would say,
Oh, that's not good, that's not
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good, that's not good. That's
good. But I've heard many stories too
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when the IRS comes in and orders
to you, they discredit this, but
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you get credit for other things that
you didn't so pretty much pay your taxes.
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Okay, they won't bother you.
But at the end of the day,
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I gotta look and see what kind
of country we're leaving to our grandchildren
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and their children. And right now
this country is so corrupt, so bad
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politically, turning into the weakest country
I've seen a long time. And is
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it because for all those years they
have been doing things that they're not supposed
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to. I mean, blistically,
you got one political system. You had
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them, some called Democrats, some
called Republicans. They switched back and forth
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sometimes, but they all try to
protect their jobs. And then there's that
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other group that's trying to do the
right thing for the USA, for America,
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for us to be strong again,
and they keep getting shot down.
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And the media is so good and
so strong at this Eventually the media is
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gonna get wiped out. They're gonna
get overrun with everything that's going on,
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and they're going to have to report
the truth. How could they hold back?
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I'm Biden's son, the President's son. How can they hold back on
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what's going on? Knowing now that
there were so many lies that everything about
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I wasn't involved, I didn't know
anything, I had this and that.
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And we know now from other sources
publicly in these hearings under oath that they
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were part of it, that he
knew everything. Of course, a father
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knows everything. Lastly, you run
away. You know it's heated bay time
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at the White House. So you
go to your beach house with millions of
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dollars, And where do you get
that money? Your average salary for all
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the years you've been in there's probably
one hundred and seventy five. How the
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heck did you invest your money?
They become so rich, And even if
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you've got a few hundred thousand dollars
when you're a vice president for some things,
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it doesn't allow you to have tens
of millions of dollars. There's so
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much stuff going on that I hope
it doesn't break your entire system, but
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we have to clean it out.
So you coupled that with the markets that
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are going higher, you have all
this stuff happening. I'm telling you invest
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cautiously. Invest cautiously, be happening. You've made some money in fact,
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you know what, have you've been
thinking about doing something? Take some money
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out, go do it so you
know you can some of your profits.
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You made one hundred grand, take
twenty five grand and do something because it
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can tune against you and that's not
what you want to see. So in
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summary, markets keep going higher.
I don't see a lot to bring it
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down right now. But we were
in August, September, October, so
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will be very very careful. We
have a way. If you're ultra conservative,
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we'll talk about it more and keep
listening. We got an hour and
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a half left of the Moneymounted Show. Thank you for being part of it.
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Welcome back everybody to the Money Mounted
Show. We got a full house.
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Hello, Dave Good and Todd Yes
or Pointyboddy. So the big headline
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this week was the dal rally the
down streak, right, wasn't that the
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big headline? You know? Last
Simon did it? Yes? Nineteen eighty
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seven, nineteen eighty seven. What's
weird is that we found one day short
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of the all time record, which
would have been fourteen consecutive days in eighteen
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ninety seven. And Todd, I
thought this was pretty cool, although you
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thought it was a dub nineteen eighty
seven in eighteen ninety seven, same four
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numbers, just different configuration. I
thought that was kind of cool. Yeah.
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And the only and the only reason
it didn't go fifteen is they had
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the usually versals on Thursday's true,
but in all fairness, a week ago
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Friday it was up two points.
It could have very easily been down two
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points that we wouldn't even been talking
about it though, But it was just
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kind of fun to talk about and
historic, historic touches of things. The
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other big story of the week four, especially for Tucson, was raytheon stock
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has not participated in issues. Rally
dropped fifteen percent at the open on Tuesday
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after the company said, now,
I'll quote them, a significant portion of
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the Pratt and Whitney engines that power
Airbus A three twenty neo jets will need
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accelerated removal and inspection over the next
twelve months. Now the stock reacts to
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me was extreme. It appears the
initial estimates of what this will cost will
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be around five hundred million dollars,
and the company has annual revenue of sixty
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nine billion dollars. Sixty nine billion
dollars. It doesn't seem like the kind
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of a thing that would knock a
stock like Raytheon down fifteen percent. Yeah,
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it is interesting. I don't know
if it's because it was just in
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I guess in their smaller sector.
I don't know how I'm big. It
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seems like they're more in the missiles
and everything. So maybe that's why you're
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gonna have a lot of analysts downgrades
over the next week or ten days.
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That's typical when you have something like
this, they lower their priced arg as
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they downgrade the stock from buy to
a hold. You know, everybody gets
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more cautious. So, but I
think if you've been looking for an entry
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point for Raytheon to at least start
a position, and I'm gonna saying let's
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go all in with everything you have. But if you've been looking for a
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position to start a position to Raytheon, this is yeah. Like you said
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the past, though, when a
stock craters like that, you don't necessarily
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get in right away because it could
drop a little more and then I really
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will find a bottom and then it'll
start building back. It generally does.
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It's what we've seen with Apple.
It did it a while ago. It
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dropped from like one eighty to one
fifty. Disney has done it twice.
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Yeah, eighteen months. We saw
it with Disney. When it dropped down
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near one hundred, I said,
I think it, well, did it
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twice. I mean it was at
one sixty and then it dropped to one
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twenty and then you told me about
the crater. Right then it was kind
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of stuck around there. It got
back to about one thirty five and then
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a crater again. And now we
look at it, it's at eighty five.
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Yeah. I think if I were
looking at Raytheon, maybe take a
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quarter of a position here as a
starting point. It's a great company with
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great products, great people us.
It's gonna be okay, it's gonna be
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another one. There's a lot of
news on this week, a lot of
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calls on. At least I had
a number of people ask me about is
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mcal with the new Barbie movie,
which went went over really really well.
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Stock was up twenty percent in the
last thirty days ahead of release of that
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movie. Gained more ground on Monday
after the opening weekend was strong. Be
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careful here, this should give them
a short term boost in sales, but
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this two shall pass. And this
company has been struggling. They're in the
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middle of declining sales. Now this
will give them a pop, but they're
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in the middle of the decline.
They give you an example this week.
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The middle of this week. Now
you would think, okay, if if
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this Barbie thing is going to change
the company and send them rocketing higher,
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wouldn't you want to be in charge
of that ship? The CEO left in
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the middle of the week to join
Yah to join the Gap, the wobe
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the CEO of the Gap instead of
Mattel that was already coming then. But
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what did that tell you? I
mean, what did that tell you about
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how to come out? Before Barbie
even was released. I mean, that
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had been a deal made. I
think what it's pointing to is that kids
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are less and less dealing with physical
toys and it's more going into the virtual
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world. So we've seen that with
Blocks, We've seen that with other video
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games. Um, that's where they
spend their playtime. Right back in the
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day. You did have a Barbie, right, you had transformers like things
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that you actually past the physicals at
all. But with Mattel is they did
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announce that they're trying to do a
whole universe, like a Marvel universe.
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They're going to try and do a
Hot Wheels movie. Other Disneyland essentially pretty
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much, but they're trying to do
movies with it. But they've got a
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they're buildings. They're actually building a
new Disney lad. I saw that in
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California with all of the all of
those like Legoland is what I can exactly.
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That's a good good analogy doing.
That's a good analogy. Yeah.
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But I had someone to approach me
through Jim say, boy, I think
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I got to buy that stock,
And I said, no, I think
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you ought to shorted. This is
an opportunity. This is a struggling.
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But the other company that has a
connection to the Barbie movie and Oppenheimer,
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Warner Brothers, didn't seem like it
was moving too much on any Warner Brothers
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is Oppenheimer, right. While I
also saw that they produced the Mattel because
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Mattel's toy company. No, I
get that. I get that, but
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but I'm thinking that the Barbie movie
was that was that Warner Brothers also,
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I believe so yeah, Okay,
Sebastian sitting in the back there, he
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said, that's that's absolutely okay.
A big weekend for them. Yeah,
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big weekend from Warner Brothers and Stock
didn't doing anything. Yeah, so that
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might be an interesting see how their
earnings come out in a couple of months.
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We had the we talked last week
about the big historic rebalancing of the
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NASDAC one hundred that took place on
Monday of last week, and talk about
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a yawn. Um, not only
was it a yawn, it did nothing
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to stop the runaway Magnificent seven.
On Friday, the NASDAC one hundred had
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its best day of the month.
And it was a heck of a month.
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Yeah, I think a lot of
how to do with you know,
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we had reports come out from Meta
and uh they were pretty good, and
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so but Apple, Amazon, the
Google, those all had reports late earlier
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and they were and uh in Nvidia, the Main and seven we're all running
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like gazelles. Yeah, late in
the week and distorting the index. Again.
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The index which they tried to fix
was had his best day of the
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of the month, of the entire
month, and it was a perfect way.
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We're going day we'll have the entire
world run by seven countries. Just
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ten years, we should have even
companies. Yeah, I think you're absolutely
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right. My goodness, their their
market cap is just getting So you want
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to talk a little bit about the
Federal Reserve meeting this week? Sure,
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So obviously drum Powell came out raised
it another twenty five basis points. Market
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really welcomed it with a yawn because
they already knew that was going to happen.
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Um, the real interesting thing was
what is he saying about the next
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meeting. They don't meet again until
the end of September, How they're going
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to um, what they're going to
do to interest rates in September? Is
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there really the only thing that could
stop this market's momentum? And drum Power
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didn't really say that he was definitely
going to raise rates next time. He
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says he's gonna look at economic news, he's gonna look at all the PC
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data, the CPI data, the
labor market data, and how that comes
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out, we'll dictate their decision on
the next meeting. So if we don't
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have another rate increase, we could
see this market continue to go right,
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because that's kind of what the market
wants to see. That's not what Jerome
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Powell wants, right, I mean, that's the bottom line. Well,
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Jerome Power really pointed at two different
economic numbers. One of them was the
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core PC and CPI, And the
core PC and CPI is the inflation measure
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that X is out food and energy, which is the most volatile part of
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inflation, and the central banks don't
really control the prices of those things too
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well through monetary policy. So he
wanted to see core CPI and pc go
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down. And he also wanted to
see wage growth go down. Wage growth
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has continued to go off a chart, and you can't really see a slowing
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inflation when people are getting paid more
because that means he's housing is forty two
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percent of CPI. We're seeing no
weakness in housing because of the shortage.
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00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:04,519
Shortage. The primary driver that took
inflation from four to three in June was
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plunging gasolene prices. Well, how's
that working on right? Oil prices are
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back to a three month high,
and vide place a week up three and
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a half bucks at eighty and a
half gas prices at eight month high.
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Yeah, and so here we go. So we're gonna get the July inflation
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number in the middle of August,
and my guess is it probably ticks up
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and that would be the first time
in months it has happened, right,
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yea, yeah, that might spare
someone best number I think, right,
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00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,920
Yeah, it's been a long time. Yeah, So that that could be
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a you know, a catalyst that
finally makes markets take a breather. Um,
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we saw interest rates they did tick
up this week, Um, based
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on the federal reserves decisions. So, um, what's the inversion now?
434
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,680
Still one percent? Still one percent? Still right at one percent? The
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00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,880
ten year treasury three point nine,
the two year treasury four point nine.
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00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,480
Yeah, and again that's the bond
market telling you we're gonna have a recession.
437
00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:04,039
Now. It's been wrong for a
year and a half. Yeah exactly.
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00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:06,920
Are we thinking that for once it's
not going to be right? It's
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00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,800
been right in the past. It's
not right every time. Remember remember that
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00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:15,079
it's it's the high high percentage of
accuracy, but not every time. The
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00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:19,960
interesting bartwo is the average amount of
time between when the inversion takes place and
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the actual recession is fifteen months and
we're right there, right right at about
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that fifteen month level, so we'll
see um. But that was an interesting
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Uh. The economy continues to be
strong. The flash PMI number for July
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showed continuing strength in the US.
We saw the gross domestic product up two
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00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:46,760
point four percent the first look at
it for the for Q two, which
447
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,639
is stronger than expected. Personal consumption
expenditure was the lowest in two years,
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00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:59,920
but the core personal consumption expenditure was
high and personal spending increased. So we're
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essentially seen little, if any slowed
down in the economy, which is one
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of the reasons the markets running and
they're saying, oh, my goodness,
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we've avoided recession. Well sort of
rights, because the manufacturing sector of the
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00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:15,199
United States has definitely slowed down,
no question, it's definitely slowed down,
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00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:20,159
But the services has done the exact
opposite. It's still increasing. So you
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00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:24,239
have this dichotomy where overall we're still
seeing a positive growth, really led the
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00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:30,360
way by the services sector, but
maybe eventually the manufacturing starts to weigh down
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00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,440
the growth, but it doesn't look
like it's doing it. Yeah, at
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this point in time, we know
that that Paul watched inflation down around two
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percent. Todd to report on Friday
showed is still four. Yeah, it's
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00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,880
still four. Core PC is still
four. Personal consumption expenditure is still for
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00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,679
he doesn't want it to four.
So we'll be back with a little break
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coming up here, and we'll be
back right after this message. We thank
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you for joining this on this Sunday
morn say. It's all welcome back.
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You're listening to the Money Matter Show. Dylan Greenberg. I'm here with Todd
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Glick, Dan Greenberg and Dave Sherwood. We had a pretty good a week
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last week. The Dallas up point
seven percent, SMP five hundred was up
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one percent, the NASDAC was up
two percent, so the Magnificent seven is
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00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,159
still killing it. The RSP,
which is the equal weight at SMP five
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00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,559
hundred, was up point two percent. Overall, the market, if you're
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00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:28,440
looking at that, was pretty flat, and then the small cap, which
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is the Russell two thousand, was
up one percent. It was a positive
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00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,079
week all around. Good news like
we were talking about last segment, was
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00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:38,000
the good news about the inflation,
even though, like we've said at the
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00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,480
end of the last segment, is
still a four percent and he still wants
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00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:44,400
to get it to two percent.
But what they said was good on the
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00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,920
last last week was that there might
only be one more interest rate hike,
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00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,920
and now investors love that. It
is so hard one it's like this not
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00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:59,000
to just say just close your eyes
and buy. But valuations. This is
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00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:02,159
something I've learned. I've been doing
this for forty one years. Valuations do
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00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:07,880
matter. At the end of the
day, valuations do matter. And right
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00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:15,639
now the valuation on the SHMP five
hundred is sixty five percent above normal valuation.
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00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,719
Also, when you just said,
like what you just said, it's
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all you want to do, let's
close your eyes and buy, just gotta
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00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:24,760
buy. I just missing it.
I'm missing this kind u That is the
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00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,480
cell signal is when you think I
just need to buy. We went through
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00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:30,880
this with That's a good time to
probably sell. We went through this with
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00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,400
Tesla a couple of years ago,
where it just wouldn't go down no matter
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00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,440
what it had, it just kept
going up and up and up. People
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00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,800
kept buying it pretty much closing their
eyes and buying it, and it just
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00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,039
never went down. But it's pe
was at what like two hundred and eighty
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00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:45,800
three. It was ridiculously overvalued,
but for some reason it just kept going
491
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,559
up until it didn't, and then
all of a sudden it dropped and dropped
492
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:52,760
and dropped, and now it's p's
around forty something, a lot more manageable
493
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:58,159
and a lot more to its traditional
or it's true value. So it does
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00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,119
happen, it can't happen, and
it does, it will get fixed.
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00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,079
Just like all of those twenty twenty
stocks, they just had astronomically high pees.
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00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:07,519
People were just buying them because you
could throw a dart pick any stock
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00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:10,280
in the world and it would go
up at that point, until it stop
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00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,719
doing that, and everybody started getting
nerves and selling out of those crap penny
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00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,480
stock companies that went to fifty dollars
a share for no reason, they went
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00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:22,320
back to five dollars a share.
Beyond Bath and Beyond is now out of
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00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,079
business. Everybody thought they had a
whole resurgence because their stock went from nothing
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00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:30,800
to what fifty sixty dollars because it
was one of those meme stocks. Then
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00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,440
all of a sudden, the year
and a half later, it got back
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00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,199
to his true valuation of nothing,
and now they're out of business, you
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00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,360
know, when we were down at
thirty eight hundred, everyone was thinking,
506
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,559
all, this could be the big
crash. It's coming here, you know,
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00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:44,480
hindsight being twenty twenty, that's obviously
a good buy a signal, right,
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00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:46,880
when everyone wanted to sell all news
was bad news. We constantly talked
509
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,760
about it at that point when it
was around thirty eight hundred. Then we
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00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,880
just see this huge run up.
Now we're at forty six hundred, and
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00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,760
all we want to do is bye
bye, bye, bye bye. That
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00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,760
might be the signal, right,
it definitely can they irrational Longerness say liquid,
513
00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:07,519
Yeah, we know that, right, But eventually people get too greedy
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00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,400
and people get too fearful. It
happens on both sides. Well, there's
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00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,880
two ways that you can correct that
that elevated price earnings ratial, right,
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00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:19,880
One is to have stock prices decline. The other is to have earnings accelerate.
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00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,039
We're not in an environment where you
would expect accelerating earnings from the overall
518
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:30,239
market, or in an environment where
the Federal Reserve is trying very very hard
519
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:36,280
to slow things down. That's not
an environment where you're typically going to get
520
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:42,119
accelerated earnings. You see this type
of pricing for a market when you're coming
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00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,960
out of a recession, when your
growth is accelerating, and you think corporate
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00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:52,199
earnings are going to accelerate dramatically,
then you see price earnings ratials like we
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00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:58,519
have now. You don't see them
typically in this type of environment. You
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00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:01,280
know, I'm hoid. You just
mentioned the market can stay irrational longer than
525
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,760
you can stay liquid. I have
no problem being in the market. We
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00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:12,639
are participating. We have been more
cautious than necessary. In hindsight, you
527
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,719
never know if you want to if
you want a business where you're never wrong,
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00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,679
this is not it right, you
know, so we're wrong. We're
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00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,559
wrong. We're right more than we're
wrong, fortunately, But we've been too
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00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:27,159
cautious. When the market was down
around thirty eight hundred, I think the
531
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,440
low for the last twelve months is
thirty four ninety one, and I've been
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00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,840
pretty animate over the last six months
that that is going to be the low
533
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,920
for the year. That is going
to be low, and it now.
534
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,639
I don't think there's anybody doubts that
now. But when we were at thirty
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00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:44,559
eight thirty seven, pouncing back and
forth, I said I didn't There were
536
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:47,039
people saying we're going to go and
below that thirty four ninety one and set
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00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:52,000
a new fifty two weeks old.
I couldn't see that in the environment we
538
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,159
were in. It was pretty verbal
on this show about that's not going to
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00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,960
happen. Thirty four ninety one is
going to be the bottom, and guess
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00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,559
what it is going to be the
I think. I don't think if anybody
541
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:06,320
would doubt that. Now. Well, in addition to the price earnings or
542
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,599
I should be in hide. The
second largest economy in the world, China
543
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:14,719
is continuing to struggle. There was
a report last week that the jobless rate
544
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:19,719
for sixteen to twenty four year olds
in China is twenty one point three percent.
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00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:24,000
Twenty one point three percent unemployment in
the sixteen to twenty four age rain.
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00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,800
Many of them have gone home to
live with their parents. There was
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00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,400
a story about one gal that she
just she just can't compete anymore in the
548
00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:36,480
in the business world. She just
exhausted, can't do it anymore, a
549
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:38,960
lot like the US. It doesn't
that sound, doesn't that sound? Sawere?
550
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,719
Yeah, doesn't that sound? Samwere? They push their kids a lot
551
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,159
harder over there though, and you, oh, yeah, it's an interesting.
552
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,840
The China play is interesting though,
because you have a lot of these
553
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,800
stocks that are so beaten up,
like at JD dot Com, Ali Baba,
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00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,599
and what China's doing is and wants
to do is stimulate the same way
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00:41:54,639 --> 00:41:59,400
we got stimulus checks. They're trying
to do that coming up. So it's
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00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,519
an interesting play. I mean,
if economy is still in Shamble's unemployments at
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00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:05,760
high you got that side, but
then you also got the stimulus side,
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00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,119
where if they give these people the
checks, they're gonna be able to start
559
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:12,599
using them. So is Baba,
JD, PDD Are they all going to
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00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:15,199
go even if it's not checks,
even if it's you know, continual lower
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00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,760
interest rates with China has kept them
low. Yeah. A lot of these
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00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,239
companies, especially the technology oriented companies, the PDD, the JD, the
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00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:29,760
the Ali Baba, those are interesting
plays because once these Chinese consumers really start
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00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:35,000
spending, like we know they will
eventually they are the biggest economy, well
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00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:38,920
not the biggest, but the biggest
population one of the most people with the
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00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,039
most people. And what those are
Ali Baba and JD dot Com Appment is
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00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:45,119
the same as Amazon in size wise. Ali Baba is definitely the biggest,
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00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:51,320
and then PDD is a smaller one, which is Timu and Timu is it's
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00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:54,159
kind of the it's the much cheaper
version of Ali Baba and Amazon over in
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00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:59,159
China, and of course they're They're
big problem is they're struggling in real estate
571
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:04,880
market that's just extremely overbuilt real estate
market. That is a bubble that about
572
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,639
that a while ago. It's part
of the culture there where you have to
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00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:12,320
have two houses in order to be
favorable to a woman. These guys were
574
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,679
buying like lakehouses that they've never seen
before. They would just buy them on
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00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:17,360
on a picture so they could go
to the girl's dad to see, like,
576
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,840
this is what I have, Let
me marry your daughter. The whole
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00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,840
thing in the culture and the government
afford the government built entire city said no
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00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,360
one ever moved to. Also keep
in mind that the majority of these Chinese
579
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,039
are, you know, the waivers
to the male side because of that one
580
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:37,400
child policy that they had, so
all those males have to buy the houses
581
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,519
for the cultural dynamics of that of
that culture. So it's it's a very
582
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:45,360
interesting dynamic. They try to do
populations controled by having one child and then
583
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,800
all the people only wanted a son
because they're the only ones that going to
584
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,320
carry on the name. And now
they're having population control, they're having to
585
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,400
decline. You just have ghost towns
now absolutely towns, and they're beautiful cities,
586
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:01,719
beautiful cities, not one no one
ever occupied. And really the reason
587
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:07,000
China had such a rise in their
powers. Everyone moved from rural to urban,
588
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:13,159
right, and that's what brought China
as a prosperous nation eventually. I
589
00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:15,760
mean, do you run out of
rural people come into urban like what it's
590
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:21,679
It's really interesting to keep an eye
out on that. I'd expect that China's
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00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,440
stocks probably be in the headlines pretty
pretty bigly and then in the next three
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00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:30,119
to four months, because I think
they're way lower than a lot of the
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00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:34,119
stocks. They're one of the most
bullish countries that you can be investing in
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00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:37,159
over the next six months. Yeah, I mean a full disclosure, we
595
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:40,039
don't really have much exposure to the
Chinese markets in like Ali, Baba and
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00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,039
all. We have a little,
but most of what we're in for exposure
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00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:46,599
wise is win, which is a
Macau and that's the gambling stock over Yeah,
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00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:51,000
we got out of all the Chinese
transparency. Yeah, we got out
599
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,880
of half a win right now,
but we just like it because that ten
600
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,239
year, there's gonna be no more
Casino's Bill for ten years in that area.
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00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,880
I think probably our biggest exposure to
China is Win and Starbucks. Again,
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00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:07,159
China is starbucks number one market now? Is they building a new Starbucks
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00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:09,559
on average every nine hours? Speaking
of Starbucks is still like a worldwide like
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00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:14,440
not so much, not necessarily just
China right now, but they do move
605
00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:20,599
with China as the Chinese economy gives
good reports. Starbucks like that as a
606
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,639
Chinese economy economy numbers come in weeks. I don't like that, but I
607
00:45:24,679 --> 00:45:30,119
definitely think Starbucks is one of those
stocks that I've looked at that have hugely
608
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:32,960
lagged the market, and it's a
great company. Right in these type of
609
00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:37,599
environments, it's really hard to find
stocks to buy that haven't already run up.
610
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:39,880
It is, and you know,
a few come to my mind,
611
00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:47,159
and it's Disney and Starbucks and Raytheon
and Raytheon, Raytheon that's brand new.
612
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,239
Yeah, And so you look at
those stocks and those are stocks you're comfortable
613
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,880
owning for five ten years, right, they're great companies. You know,
614
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,719
they're not going anywhere. It may
just not be their time right now.
615
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:00,360
Another one's Target, But I talked
about it his monologue, how that got
616
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,480
hit because of their whole movement against
the anti woke or whatever. But they
617
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,519
got away from a quick They're not. They didn't get hit as hard as
618
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:09,719
an eyeser bush. And I was
a bush just laid off hundreds of employees.
619
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,320
And we were talking about the different
demographics of Target, Like people who
620
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,440
go to Target weren't normally very conservative, right, and people who were drinking
621
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,320
by Light normally were conservatives. So
the people the way bud Light you know,
622
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:28,760
made their demographic mad, that's gonna
stick. The way Target their demographic
623
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:32,920
wasn't really there anyways on that political
spectrum, bud Light is made just a
624
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,760
giant mistake. And yeah, now
bud Light's gonna continue to stick. But
625
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,480
I don't think targets dilemma is gonna
stick as long as you're seeing it with
626
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:45,840
less competitor. Constellation Brands Stock has
been killing it ever since that whole fiasco
627
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,679
because they took over as the number
one beer with Mandelo. Yeah, had
628
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:52,280
great earnings last quarter and they're coming
up on another quarter with bud Light still
629
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:57,000
and shambles with this whole thing.
I think was it Cores that reported earnings
630
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,559
this week and they were up ten
percent after reporting. I mean, all
631
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:05,199
the other beer companies are really taking
advantage. You're very well, Modelo,
632
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,679
Cores, bud Lights, what you
want to buy? Right, I said,
633
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,599
screw bud Light, They're going Cores
and Modelo. And I've been so
634
00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:14,599
surprised by how many people I've talked
to that really care about that they won't
635
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:15,880
drinking, and how they do care, how it has become a whole thing
636
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:21,480
there. Yeah, it's and I
thought it was maybe a one month fad.
637
00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:25,559
No, it's it's it's sticking.
That's amazing that something like that can
638
00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:30,960
ruin an entire company. Right again, we appreciate you joining us on this
639
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,679
Sunday morning. Um, looks like
we're going to be in for a little
640
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,360
bit of cooler weather next week,
maybe back to normal, that would be
641
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,519
wonderful. Is often wonder what it
was like to live in Phoenix. We
642
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:43,679
now know not good. We'll be
back in a few minutes. Again,
643
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:53,840
thanks for joining us on the money
matter shows. It's a welcome back to
644
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,239
the Money Matters Show. My name
is Todd Glick. I'm here with Dean
645
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,840
Greenberg, David Sherwood, and Dylan
Greenberg. It's been a fun week in
646
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the markets. As we said,
we had the Federal Reserve come out on
647
00:48:02,679 --> 00:48:07,519
Wednesday, raised another twenty five basis
points on the week. The dal Jones
648
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:10,840
finally broke its thirteen day winning streak. It failed on Thursday to eke out
649
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,400
a record tying fourteen, which would
have tied the record in nineteen eighty seven.
650
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,159
Still finished up on the week point
seven percent. The SMP up one
651
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:21,960
percent. Believe it or not,
SMP has been up nine weeks out of
652
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,639
the last eleven on an absolute tear. Nazdak led the way this week,
653
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:30,039
up two percent on the back of
those big corporate earnings, mostly off of
654
00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:32,800
Meta Russell two thousand, The midcaps
up one percent, and the equal weighted
655
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:37,760
only up point two showing that overall
it was the big companies that led the
656
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,480
way for the SMP five hundred this
week. We did and we did tie
657
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to the I may misunderstood, but
we did tie the record in nineteen eighty
658
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:49,519
seven, but we didn't tie the
record, not the all time record,
659
00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:53,199
which would have taken one more day
in eighteen ninety seven, and that was
660
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:59,559
a Dylan said it was the doc
market even run even around DA and look
661
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:02,559
it up, it was one year
old. It's the second year of the
662
00:49:02,639 --> 00:49:07,199
Dow Jones Industrial average. Gold had
lost seven bucks on a week we said
663
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,800
it. Oil was up three and
a half bucks. He had a three
664
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:15,079
month high at eighty fifty goal down
seven bucks to nineteen sixty six. Bitcoin
665
00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:21,159
keeps edging lower after the big June
rally thirty nine through shid me twenty nine
666
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,800
three last week, and the regional
bank index just continues to be a spaceship,
667
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,320
which is good because the regional banking
crisis was what sent us into the
668
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:37,199
tailspin earlier. Earlier, long year
yep, yep. The low on the
669
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:43,159
regional bank ETF Dylan was on May
the fourth, actually, and stock was
670
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,880
up five percent this week. It's
a four month high. It's forty percent
671
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:50,719
above the low it hit on May
the fourth. You know the interesting thing
672
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,840
about oil is I saw a report
that says energy companies are reporting the steepest
673
00:49:54,880 --> 00:50:01,599
decline in operating rigs in the last
three years. So that can't help prices
674
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:07,360
going down right less supply less operating
rigs means price go up. It's going
675
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,920
to be really interesting how the fat
can combat. You know, I think
676
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:15,960
he was very smart saying I'm focusing
on the core, you know, PC
677
00:50:16,159 --> 00:50:21,440
and CPI, because that removes the
energy picture out of it. Because,
678
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:24,400
like you said, we should see
some energy increasing, we should see the
679
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:29,400
headline increase next time in August.
And because of the energy. It's just
680
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:36,360
so frustrating to see our country go
from energy efficient to dependent again upon people
681
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,280
that are not that dependable. Window. Yeah, it's very frustrating, very
682
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:45,119
frustrating that oil companies. And I
can't even imagine working for an oil company
683
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:51,159
that has to be doubly frustrating or
tripli frustrating. Um. Every week I
684
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:53,599
talked a little bit about electric vehicles. This week it's about electric vehicle stocks.
685
00:50:54,400 --> 00:51:00,519
Tesla was downgraded to sell at ubs. They said recent gains fully account
686
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:05,679
for the demand boost that came from
lower prices. The one thing analysts may
687
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,079
be missing, this is from me
now. The one thing the analysts may
688
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:15,119
be missing is the value of the
charging stations that Tesla has become dominant in
689
00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:20,920
Tesla's the Tesla's charging stations you see
them everywhere. Ford has gone that way,
690
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,639
GM's gone that way, Volvo,
a Rivian and others perhaps will join.
691
00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:29,320
I saw an article last week where
some of the companies are trying to
692
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:32,639
go off and start their own charging
company. BMW was one of them.
693
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,719
They're going to start their own charging
stations, and well they were doing like
694
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,280
a United there's like five or four
yeah, three four, five yeah,
695
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,559
right, all join up, and
but they're starting from zero. Tesla has
696
00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:50,599
twenty thousands of trying to have the
resources of five different big companies, and
697
00:51:50,679 --> 00:51:52,639
they're just they're just missing it.
Though. I think that I think investors
698
00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:57,000
are maybe or analysts maybe are missing
that every time you go to one of
699
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:02,119
those super charters, it's twenty five
thirty bucks every single time. And between
700
00:52:02,159 --> 00:52:06,880
the time that I got my car
and the time I had my home charger
701
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,960
installed, I went three weeks of
pretty much hate in this car because I
702
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:14,159
had to go to superchargers. But
there are a lot of people that live
703
00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:20,079
in apartments and complexes where they can't
have a two hundred and forty volt charger
704
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,440
or outlet I'm sorry, outlets,
and so they have to go to these
705
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:28,599
superchargers in addition, anyone who's taken
their car out of town has to go
706
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:30,840
to a supercharger. My daughter lives
in Orange County, and when she goes
707
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:36,119
up to Los Angeles to visit her
friends or for a business, it's about
708
00:52:36,159 --> 00:52:38,360
one hundred mile bust Sam as Phoenix. She has to go to the supercharger
709
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:43,880
before she can come home. Twenty
to thirty bucks every single time. Millions
710
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,119
of people doing that every single day. That's going to be important. I
711
00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:53,599
wonder what kind of electric costs that
cost Tesla as far as obviously the charge
712
00:52:53,639 --> 00:52:57,679
twenty five or thirty bucks, the
electric for the chargers free for Tesla.
713
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,280
Yeah right, they have to pay
interesting, yeah, interest. It would
714
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,719
be a good question related to that. GM was down four percent on two
715
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:10,440
the despite reporting better than expected quarterly
results. They're electric vehicle deliveries for the
716
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:15,599
second quarter were fifteen thousand, five
to sixty two. Now, you may
717
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:22,400
recall that Tesla delivered four hundred and
sixty six thousand, GM delivered fifteen thousand
718
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:29,239
Ford they delivered UH fourteen thousand,
eight hundred and forty three, So fourteen
719
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,199
thousand for Ford, fifteen thousand for
GM, four hundred and sixty six thousand
720
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,239
for Tesla. Yeah, so what
you've got is Tesla versus the world,
721
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:42,360
and Tesla is winning. It's just
there. Did Ford has wonderful electric products,
722
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,440
the F one hundred pickup, the
Moche car, I think is the
723
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,400
coolest electric car out there. You
just can't get them. You can't get
724
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,320
your hands on them. When I
see one around town, it's like,
725
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,920
oh there, you know it's it's
it's it's way more special than a Tesla
726
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:04,280
could. They're so rare that's ridiculous. And that's the problem that they're running
727
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:09,239
into. GM and Ford are both
losing billions of dollars on these on this
728
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:15,360
electric vehicle arm of their business,
and they're trying to compete with somebody that's
729
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:20,039
been doing it for fourteen years.
And the people that've been doing it for
730
00:54:20,119 --> 00:54:22,840
fourteen years Den have it figured out
right, They've been ahead of the game.
731
00:54:24,159 --> 00:54:30,360
But I still think, like you, people getting these cause of finding
732
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,039
that it's not exactly what they thought
it was going to be. The car
733
00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:39,239
itself running, yes, but the
mileage on it, finding places to plug
734
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:44,039
it in different, Yeah, it
is. I will say it's the most
735
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:50,280
spectacular experience I've ever had in an
automobile. It is quiet, it is
736
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:55,280
smooth, it is fast like lightning. But charging is an issue, and
737
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:00,480
range is an issue. And I
can't believe fourteen years down the road they've
738
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:06,320
managed to stretch the range by about
fifteen twenty percent more. That's it,
739
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,199
because they've had these costs for ten
years fourteen, yeah, fourteen, two
740
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,360
thousand and eight. I remember to
portion about ten maybe not ten, maybe
741
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,840
eight years ago. They came out
with all the electrics and they they wanted
742
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:21,559
me to try one, and and
I hated it because you're saying it's quiet.
743
00:55:21,639 --> 00:55:23,679
It's so quiet you don't even know
what's going. I love to hear
744
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,840
it. Yeah, that is true. Yeah, some people really like that
745
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,239
feedback from the engine. So that
I did, I was like, I
746
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,599
didn't even know the call was going. I didn't know it was on the
747
00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:37,119
thing that's the most addictive to me
about it is the speed. And that's
748
00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:40,119
and I'm not talking about, you
know, going seventy miles an hour down
749
00:55:40,159 --> 00:55:44,679
Broadway. I'm talking about the ability
to dart in and out of traffic,
750
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:49,760
the ability to get into traffic,
and that's so much safer way traffic.
751
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,400
The acceleration right, the acceleration it. I think it decreases the risk of
752
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:59,400
driving the car. There's things you
can do that you wouldn't be able to
753
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,079
do in a gas part automobile.
But Dan, you're right, range is
754
00:56:02,119 --> 00:56:07,039
still a problem. Now. Toyota
announced took a couple of weeks ago that
755
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,760
in the lab they've come up with
a solid state battery that will have a
756
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,320
seven hundred and fifty mile range and
charge in ten minutes. If that were
757
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,440
to happen, that's a game changer. Huge, that's a game changer.
758
00:56:19,519 --> 00:56:22,360
And we start talking about gasoline at
four bucks a gallon. I couldn't tell
759
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:27,199
you what gas is right now because
they don't buy any What a shame,
760
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,800
right, you know, technology is
exponential, so it's only a matter of
761
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,599
a time. Just because it took
ten years to do that one big increase,
762
00:56:32,679 --> 00:56:36,639
that means the next time it should
only take five and then they'll they'll
763
00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:38,480
get disfigured out. And will it
change the planet? No, it's not
764
00:56:38,519 --> 00:56:40,719
a change. Well, let's put
it this way, Dave. Here's where
765
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,159
the gas is. I filled out
my cause it only had about thirty five
766
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,440
forty miles left. I filled it
up to the top. It was thirty
767
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:53,320
dollars less. This time, thirty
dollars less Filipo tank. Then when wow,
768
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,960
that was away so two months ago. Because gasoline prices are rising,
769
00:56:58,039 --> 00:57:00,480
right, I'm just telling them thirty
dollars less. Yeah, I was happy.
770
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:04,119
I know that. I all,
I know. That's been about twenty
771
00:57:04,119 --> 00:57:07,840
five hundred dollars a year on gasoline
and now I'm spending a zero. Now
772
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,960
you're just spending a lot of time
in the heat trying to plug it in.
773
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:13,599
Oh no, no timing to heat. What are you talking about?
774
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:15,039
So so all the solo stuff,
you know, we gotta do is we
775
00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:21,519
gotta get somebody on here that actually
does solar also, you know, talk
776
00:57:21,559 --> 00:57:25,079
about where that industry is going and
and uh why it's if it's effective and
777
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:30,159
not effective, and well obviously they'll
tell us effective. But yeah, but
778
00:57:30,199 --> 00:57:32,920
we should talk to about that.
We should bring it all in here because
779
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,800
there's a few companies in town here
and we know a few people will have
780
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,760
them come on the radio and talk
about what it does and how it does
781
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:44,039
it and what's the future of it. You know, because I tell you
782
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:46,280
fourteen thousand cars by Ford that doesn't
seem like a lot, you know,
783
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,360
no, none, It's it's like
nothing, right, it's not about four
784
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,920
hundred and sixty six thousand, yeah, everything. But is that because the
785
00:57:53,039 --> 00:58:00,559
Ford, the person buying the Ford
is more I want an American car that
786
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:02,320
that's not on electric. I don't
want to go through all the stuff because
787
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,960
it's obviously it's a lower lower price
car. Well, it's the fact that
788
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,400
also it takes a year, not
much. It's not much lower price.
789
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:13,840
It takes a year to get your
car. Yeah, it takes yeah.
790
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,320
Yeah, they're just they're just not
very good at it yet. Um,
791
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,119
if they would get good at it, I think they could give Tesla run
792
00:58:20,159 --> 00:58:22,320
for their money. It was that
that way of appeasing the government. Right
793
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,039
now that they're working towards it and
really don't care. Maybe they're just not
794
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:30,000
that into it. I know Farley, the CEO of Ford, has been
795
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:34,800
really big on They talk it,
but then they get subsidized by the oil
796
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,639
companies they're doing. The good news
is they're doing really really well on the
797
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:40,400
other side of the business. You
know. I think they call that Ford
798
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:46,760
Blue, and the electric vehicle side
of the the UH business is called Model
799
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,800
E. I think that's hilarious.
I think that's very clever. Model.
800
00:58:52,039 --> 00:58:54,320
I think it's Model Blue, which
is the gas power, and then Model
801
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,920
E, which I thought was pretty
pretty cute. I don't say Model blue.
802
00:58:59,039 --> 00:59:00,440
Why not like Model G. I
don't know why they called it blue,
803
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:07,039
probably because Ford's Here's how Solar's doing
up. First Solar stock up one
804
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:10,320
hundred and sixty percent in the last
twelve months, added another ten percent on
805
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:15,880
Friday. Amazing that income for the
most recent quarter fifty percent above expectations.
806
00:59:15,039 --> 00:59:19,880
Did it finish up ten percent?
Obviously? Obviously I was going to say,
807
00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:22,840
because I was watching First Solo.
It was really interesting. It was
808
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,039
up thirteen percent to start today and
then midday it was zero percent. Lost
809
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,000
back, lost the game. We'll
be back. Guys, appreciate your listen
810
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,480
to. It's very about We're in
the first half of the second hour.
811
00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:35,719
The first we got another four.
Yeah, yeah, we're all good.
812
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,079
He got called away, so he
got called away to screwed up. Sorry
813
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:42,079
to wrap up, I wanted to
talk a little bit about all auto loans
814
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:45,280
because more Americans are getting turned down
for auto loans. Uh. The rejection
815
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:51,480
rate has almost doubled since late twenty
twenty two. So um not going to
816
00:59:51,559 --> 00:59:55,599
be a huge factor when it comes
to GDP. Auto isn't a huge input,
817
00:59:55,719 --> 01:00:00,159
but something to keep note of.
Rates are high. Yep, it's
818
01:00:00,159 --> 01:00:04,039
on auto. Owns are hiding super
seven eighty nine percent, even with good
819
01:00:04,039 --> 01:00:07,559
credit. You know, it's funny, you know, I got a lease
820
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:12,760
and it's cheaper for me to buy
the car because the car is worth more
821
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,840
now than the lease. Yeah,
so I just decided to buy it.
822
01:00:16,119 --> 01:00:19,719
I did. At the end of
the day, value means everything to me.
823
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:22,320
It's not just all I got.
I'm just gonna spend money. I
824
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,920
want value. It's hard to it's
hard not to buy your car if you
825
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,159
can buy it and sell it for
more than it's worth. You know,
826
01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:31,119
we talked about I do I do. You know, we talked about electric
827
01:00:31,199 --> 01:00:37,519
vehicles. But let's talk a little
bit about gasoline. We've wondered on this
828
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:43,039
show for a while why people stand
and these are sitting these long lines at
829
01:00:43,079 --> 01:00:46,760
Costco to get gas that's roughly the
same price as it is anywhere else in
830
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:52,239
town. And our my friend Carl
inform me that it's because Costco, and
831
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:58,559
I didn't know about this has what
they call top tier gasoline, and top
832
01:00:58,599 --> 01:01:02,519
tier gasoline, which is which is
adds as more detergent to the gasoline.
833
01:01:02,519 --> 01:01:07,320
It's actually as a separate class of
premium gasoline called top tier, adds more
834
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:14,280
detergent to the gasoline. It keeps
your engine from the fuel injectors, keeps
835
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:19,639
the fuel injectors from from clogging up. And so the reason people go to
836
01:01:19,679 --> 01:01:22,719
Costco is because you can get top
tier gasoline, which is what Costico carries
837
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:28,880
at a low prices. Now there's
other in fairness, there's other top tier
838
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:34,719
gas providers, but as you look
at Costco's prices, those that have prices
839
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:40,920
that are similar to Costco are generally
in the Irvington South Campbell Park area.
840
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:45,119
So if you live midtown, that's
not real convenient to drive over there.
841
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,960
So that's the reason that when you
go by costically you see these long lines.
842
01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:52,559
Not that the gas is necessarily a
lot cheaper, but also you're still
843
01:01:52,599 --> 01:01:57,480
painting more for the premium version of
the gasoline. You paint more than your
844
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:02,199
otherwise would if you have just not
well compared to what it because if you
845
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,039
had, even if you're at Costco, you have the basic version or the
846
01:02:06,079 --> 01:02:07,519
top tier, that's going to be
a price difference. No, No,
847
01:02:08,159 --> 01:02:13,679
the only gasole the only premium gasoline
the Costico carries is top tier. So
848
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:17,480
Costco only carries one version of gas. No, Todd, listen to me,
849
01:02:19,039 --> 01:02:22,000
premium gas. I know that regular. What I'm trying to tell you
850
01:02:22,119 --> 01:02:27,079
is if you have unregular gas that
doesn't clear the fuel injectors eventually, the
851
01:02:27,079 --> 01:02:30,800
theory is you have to buy new
fuel injectors. That cost is already baked
852
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:35,360
into the extra every round you're getting
for gas. I don't I don't pretend
853
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,039
to be an expert on gas,
but the bottom line is people. Well,
854
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:40,880
first of all, a lot of
people are at Costcal already, so
855
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:45,480
it's no big stretch to just stop
there. And and it is five to
856
01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:47,880
ten minutes it takes to you know
that you wouldn't spend somewhere else. Big
857
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,000
deal. Five to ten minutes,
you know you're getting high quality gas at
858
01:02:52,039 --> 01:02:55,159
low prices. That's the bottom line. Now, is the de Churgent added
859
01:02:55,199 --> 01:03:00,400
to their regular and to their their
mid grade? I have no idea because
860
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:05,000
I'm not a gas expert, but
the answer to that question is number one,
861
01:03:05,039 --> 01:03:07,960
the people are already there anyway.
Number Two, you're getting as high
862
01:03:07,079 --> 01:03:15,119
quality gas as you can get at
low prices. That's kind of that's I
863
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:22,440
thought, that's kind of intreaty.
Oh um, Microsoft forty four percent this
864
01:03:22,519 --> 01:03:27,360
year reported revenue and it didn't come
above expectations, but drop four percent.
865
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,679
Yeah, we actually found that as
a little buying opportunity, yep, because
866
01:03:30,679 --> 01:03:34,960
it's been been on a tarror recently. So we bought a little bit,
867
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,360
not a ton, but just attitude
a little bit. Well if you didn't
868
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:38,320
have it, that's why you put
a little bit on. Yeah, right
869
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,559
there, just got our feet wet. Yeah, we discussed, uh.
870
01:03:40,679 --> 01:03:45,280
I mean, obviously my monologue,
I talked about when markets are doing what
871
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,360
they're doing and you're trying to get
in but don't want to just get burning
872
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:51,239
coming down, look for the stocks
that have retreated a little bit. That
873
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,880
a good quality stocks, I e. Microsoft, The other one was raytheon
874
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,119
and the other one one was on
the under one third it was Target.
875
01:03:58,639 --> 01:04:00,960
Starbucks too, were talked about Yeah, yeah in Sawbucks. I mean,
876
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,920
look for opportunities, just start to
build a little position, knowing it'd be
877
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:11,159
a little volatile. But like everything, I mean, all these stocks that
878
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,880
come down, I mean and I
look at Bowling, No one wanted bowling
879
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,039
at ninety nine. I'm just gonna
bring up ball, right, Yeah.
880
01:04:17,079 --> 01:04:20,039
And they had all the problems,
all the problems, all the problems,
881
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:24,039
and then all of a sudden boom, hey, Intel off the ground at
882
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:27,039
twenty four, back to what thirty
four thirty five dollars? Now, yeah,
883
01:04:27,119 --> 01:04:30,760
I mean, you know, these
good quality companies over time figure it
884
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:36,199
out. You know, it's the
biggest one of them all. Ge I
885
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,800
know they as I know they did
a reverse split. Okay, but even
886
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,639
after the reverse split that I'll make
it all new highs No, I didn't.
887
01:04:43,639 --> 01:04:45,760
Then. One thing you want to
do when when a company reverse splits
888
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:48,719
is you want to get out.
Yep, you go. It's been dan.
889
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,119
You and I both know that's the
kiss of death. It's different.
890
01:04:51,159 --> 01:04:57,480
They pulled it off again. H
G. Is an exception. In twenty
891
01:04:57,519 --> 01:05:00,440
twenty one, they did a one
for eight reverse splay that immediately sent the
892
01:05:00,519 --> 01:05:04,320
shares lower because everybody knows when you
do did it from what you get out
893
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,320
six or seven dollars? Yeah?
I was down in there, yeah,
894
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,920
because I remember the side was about
forty fifty bucks there and now what is
895
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,079
one hundred and twenty or something?
Right, is it stabilized in mid Its
896
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:18,519
stabilized in mid twenty twenty two,
and it's more than doubled since then.
897
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:23,159
Look at the regional banks, Look
at a Lions Bank. Yeah, cut
898
01:05:23,159 --> 01:05:25,480
down to eleven that day, but
you wouldn't get it, but you could
899
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:29,519
have gotten between fifteen and twenty fifty
one bucks. Yeah, we were talking.
900
01:05:29,519 --> 01:05:32,760
We talked about the regional bank etf
as forty percent since the may Low.
901
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:41,440
Yeah May may Gie's been hit a
six year high on Tuesday and they
902
01:05:41,519 --> 01:05:45,639
reported stronger than expected erneys. They
boosted full year guidance. Den you talked
903
01:05:45,639 --> 01:05:49,400
about Intel, it's been a laggered
for years, rebounded thirty three percent this
904
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:54,679
year, six percent higher. On
Friday, they reported a return to profitability
905
01:05:55,199 --> 01:05:59,199
after two quarters have lost this then
interestingly they give up up beat guidance.
906
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:01,360
But you know, we're talking about
all individual stocks and stuff like that.
907
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,519
You can't get to that unless you
put the plan together, because you don't
908
01:06:04,519 --> 01:06:10,199
know how much or what your risk
tolerance is unless you go through the process.
909
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:13,960
Right, and not only that,
I will say, if we go
910
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,199
through the risk tolerance and you have
a very low risk tolerance, and then
911
01:06:16,199 --> 01:06:19,920
it's not time for stocks let's take
advantage of these high interest rates. The
912
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,239
MAGA, that multi year guaranteed annuity
we've talked a lot about on the show.
913
01:06:24,639 --> 01:06:28,239
They have now increased the rates again. Now it's not five point two,
914
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,519
it's five point three percent. You
can lock in that rate for five
915
01:06:30,599 --> 01:06:35,519
years, compounding guaranteed tax defer.
Not only that, if you don't want
916
01:06:35,519 --> 01:06:39,079
to do five years, you can
do seven, you can do three.
917
01:06:39,199 --> 01:06:43,280
Obviously rates would be different, but
take advantage. If you are a conservative
918
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,599
person and you have a lot of
money in the savings a bank that's only
919
01:06:45,639 --> 01:06:49,079
earning four percent, and I know
a lot of savings accounts have up to
920
01:06:49,239 --> 01:06:55,880
their ap wise to try to keep
those reserves at their banks. But you
921
01:06:56,719 --> 01:07:00,679
don't give up an extra one percent
just because you think it's the most safe
922
01:07:00,679 --> 01:07:02,239
place in the world. At the
end of the day, the banks are
923
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,920
only insured up to two hundred and
fifty right now. The MIGA is insured
924
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,119
up to two fifty two. But
then you look at the treasuries, you're
925
01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:12,519
insured one hundred percent, right and
you have more liquidity. You won't get
926
01:07:12,519 --> 01:07:15,880
the same five point three for five
years. Because of the inversion that we
927
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,239
have in the yield curve. But
there are a lot of opportunities for safe
928
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:24,039
money, and so coming to us
doing the financial plan, we can see
929
01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:27,559
whether you are a safe money candidate
or a candidate to take advantage of some
930
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:30,360
of these lower earning stocks where we
can get in. There are great companies
931
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,039
you'd love to own over the next
five to ten years. One thing that
932
01:07:33,079 --> 01:07:35,960
comes to mind when you're talking about
this is why why would I lock in
933
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:41,199
five years if I can do treasuries
that are totally liquid, And of course
934
01:07:41,239 --> 01:07:44,599
the region for that is a five
year treasury pan about four Yeah, it's
935
01:07:44,599 --> 01:07:49,639
four percent because because the market believes
there's going to begin ourcation, you divide
936
01:07:49,639 --> 01:07:53,440
it up one two three, and
then you do the miga out to fifty
937
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:58,800
year miga. Okay, you're making
fun of me again. Day Hello New
938
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,679
York came out, think about that. So so yeah, five hundred thousand,
939
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:03,679
you do one hundred, one hundred, one hundred, and then two
940
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:09,079
hundred, right, and then you
take in what we were talking about earlier,
941
01:08:09,159 --> 01:08:13,079
the ultra conservative investor. You take
the pres the interest off of it,
942
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,600
and now you put it into the
index. Is you still have your
943
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:20,079
preservation of capital, and then you
get a little bit of an upside push
944
01:08:20,119 --> 01:08:25,239
with the money going into the SP
five hundred, the NAVSAC whatever. It
945
01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:28,760
would be. Very typical arrow you
and I have had in our quivers for
946
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:34,960
forty years is zero coupon bonds as
a protection with stock investments that went away,
947
01:08:35,199 --> 01:08:39,439
something away that went away for about
four or five years. Something we
948
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,960
also notice when we do the financial
plan is when someone is able to put
949
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,960
in all their assets in one page, they finally realize how many different accounts
950
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,159
they have and it kind of stresses
them out because at the end of the
951
01:08:49,239 --> 01:08:53,800
day having to remember all those logging, all those passwords, and it's just
952
01:08:54,079 --> 01:08:57,960
convoluted. When you can really simplify
your life with a lot of these accounts
953
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,560
being merged into one. A lot
of them common ones are the old four
954
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:05,119
oh one ks or the old TSPs. Yes, we can absolutely roll that
955
01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:11,720
into an IRA. You won't have
any taxable liability. It's just basically changing
956
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,199
the title from a four oh one
K or a TSP into an IRA.
957
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,000
Yeah, the same thing, but
more options. And with that you can
958
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,319
solidate into the IRA and you will
be invested based on your risk tolerance,
959
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,640
which if you had an old four
own k from thirty years ago, you
960
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,079
might not be invested the same way
you want to be today with your risk
961
01:09:27,159 --> 01:09:30,399
tolerance. So guys, you know
we always talked that, well one team
962
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,319
here. We work as a team, not individuals. So I'm gonna let
963
01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:38,359
Dylan explain to you the process if
you actually come in and take advantage of
964
01:09:38,399 --> 01:09:43,720
a no cost, free, complimentary
whatever you want to call it, a
965
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,800
financial plan. So when they walk
in the door, yeah, step one
966
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,640
is if you call us or if
you walk in the door, really call
967
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:53,279
us or email us, because then
we can get you going on what you
968
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:56,000
need to bring to the first meeting. Because that's step one is the first
969
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,800
meeting. We mean, Todd create
the financial plan with you, go through
970
01:10:00,039 --> 01:10:03,880
everything from your expenses to your pensions, to your investments, to your mortgage.
971
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,479
Do you have anything big coming up? Any big expenses? You want
972
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,680
to buy a new car in RV. Do you have a kid's wedding that
973
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,760
you want to pay for? That
all goes into the financial plan. We
974
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,680
create that and we see we get
your confidence level based off of a Monte
975
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:21,359
Carlo simulation where it runs a thousand
different scenarios of returns based on your portfolio
976
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:26,319
and if we shoot for something about
eighty percent or higher confidence. If you're
977
01:10:26,359 --> 01:10:30,279
there, then your option, your
opportunity of your retirement being successful will be
978
01:10:30,279 --> 01:10:35,359
pretty high. From there, the
second meeting is our proposal meeting. We
979
01:10:35,359 --> 01:10:39,920
will gather all that information. We'll
come up with our suggestions, our ideas
980
01:10:40,079 --> 01:10:43,960
of how we would build your portfolio
if you were to invest with Greenberg Financial.
981
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,399
When you say we we all do
it. We all don't look at
982
01:10:45,399 --> 01:10:47,720
it. We all discuss it,
come up with Tod and I build it,
983
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,920
and then we run it by you
guys, because you've had the forty
984
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:54,079
years plus experience in the business,
and you give us your pointers, your
985
01:10:54,079 --> 01:10:57,680
ideas on how we can help build
the portfolio to the best of our ability
986
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,159
for their risk dollers. Everything is
based off the tolence on how we build
987
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,760
the portfolios. And here's the best
part. After we're done with all that
988
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:10,199
and you guys open up the accounts, we manage it here with their risk
989
01:11:10,279 --> 01:11:13,640
tolerance changes. We can make this
stuff. We don't shove it off to
990
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,359
other people. And then you come
in and say, you know, I'm
991
01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:18,520
a little nervous. I got this
coming up, And they say, well,
992
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,720
you either have to take all your
money or not. We can mitigate
993
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,960
your risk for you. We're responsible
for what is invested in your portfolio.
994
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,239
We're not gonna have to call somebody. If you call us and ask why
995
01:11:28,279 --> 01:11:30,199
you have this stock, why have
this et FF? Why is this?
996
01:11:30,279 --> 01:11:32,159
That We're not gonna have to call
somebody else and be like, why is
997
01:11:32,199 --> 01:11:34,760
that? We can answer you right
then and there and give you the peace
998
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,520
of mind that we are looking at
your account every day. Also, ask
999
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:43,159
your advisor how do you mitigate risk
other than just bonds, because I guarantee
1000
01:11:43,159 --> 01:11:45,560
you most money managers won't have an
answer for that because they're not managing it.
1001
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,560
I mean, an institutional money manager
knows how to mitigate risk. The
1002
01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:54,319
adviser usually pushes off that way,
they have someone else to blo. The
1003
01:11:54,359 --> 01:11:57,840
advisor will just say, put more
bonds and hold on, just hold on.
1004
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,720
It's always going to be fine,
which didn't work twenty ten. And
1005
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,880
it is fine if you're an institution, but if you're if someone that's retiring,
1006
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,880
we're getting close to retiring, or
we tired, it's not good to
1007
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:11,800
watch it come all the way down
right, We'll be right back. We
1008
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,159
do appreciate you're listening and be part
of our show. Thank you. It's
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all we come back to the Money
Mounting Show. We do appreciate you're listening.
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We do have our estate planner here
today. He's got some interesting stuff
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to tell us. He's emailed us
all and said, hey, this is
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what I want to talk about today, and he said, okay, we'll
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talk about it. So I'm mister
Edward Wafforn known as Jonathan. How are
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you good? How are you guys? Good? Yr? It looks good
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today. Let's slip back and all. Yeah, I gotta get a little
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great though. Yeah, it comes
in from time to time, especially if
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I let it grow out. So
so we're talking about these i RS agents
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and they were doing he's unappointed.
Unappointed? Well, how would you unknown?
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I could unannounced visits to people's homes. But apparently that's being stopped.
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Yeah, it's being stopped because one, uh, it's dangerous for the agents.
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And two, you know, like
anything else in the in the past,
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they should give you notice before they
contact you. So they usually cold
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give you notice through the mail.
You'll never get a phone call from an
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IRS agent right out of the blue, uh, and they probably won't be
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showing up at your house right out
of the blue. Either they'll give you
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notice and let you know they're gonna
stop by. Will ever be an email?
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Will there ever be an email?
I don't know that. I would
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doubt question went something they said they
will emailed out a little bit sometimes,
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um now that they're not gonna be
just knocking on your door. But you
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know, it's funny they make it
sound like, oh, we don't want
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to do that to the people.
No, not get it. They're unarmed.
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They don't want to go to the
people that own money. You get
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shot. No, I come it
up. You know. It's like the
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guy that h has to collect money
from people that all on their mortgage or
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or their cause or their boats.
I did that for a year. Yeah,
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it was the collection nature. Did
you do that well? I started
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my career with Fort Motor Credit.
That's where I started because that's what they
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put starting. People do this at
all of them because nobody else wants to.
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It was horrible and it was always
the same people every month that were
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laid on their mortgage, always the
same ones, and you just went knocked
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on their door. No, no, we don't go into the houses.
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It was just calling them and sending
them letters. And you know, the
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good news about mortgage debt, which
is what I was collecting, is they
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just take the house. They've got
pretty good leverage. Yeah. Yeah,
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01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,720
so you a house just couldn't just
keep moving the cause the people I was
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01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,760
calling late on those man, those
cause moved around. If you haven't found
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01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,680
one of those or collecting cars,
yeah yeah, those REPO guys had to
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go out there and they would sit
on it. Then they would call it.
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Hey, I got the call,
Doway, I take it. Now
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leave them alone. We'll give them, giveim a few more days, then
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boom, you'll never find the car
again. We've had a plethora of interactions
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with Jonathan and our clients and wills
and trust and there was some real estate
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question and and you're working on another
cat. I don't even know what that's
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01:15:15,319 --> 01:15:18,960
all about now as but you've got
a bunch of different things going on,
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and we would invite you if you
have needs of a financial planning attorney who
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has also a tax skills which is
rare, that combination very very rare.
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Um if you've got something sophisticated that
you're struggling with, give us a call
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would be happy to put you in
touch with Jonathan and he's right here in
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our office. He's self employed,
has his own law firm, but he
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is physically in the Greenberg Financial Building. Correct, Yeah, and thank you.
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It's it's a great place. You
know. I love every Sunday chat
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with you guys, and it's like
a family over here. And I think
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that our you know, I could
bounce off ideas with you guys and vice
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versa. You know, with that
that gentleman who called their day excuse me,
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um, when we were kicking income
to one of the beneficiaries and we
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01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:21,039
had to basically what we were doing
was or what they were doing was changing
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the terms of an irrevocable trust so
the income was taxable to the beneficiary,
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which is usually in your best bet, uh in terms of tax wise,
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because you want the beneficiary or an
individual to be taxed and not the trust
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because as we as we all know, that trust has compressed tax rates where
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if you're a married couple, you
could be in a couple one hundred thousand
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dollars and eventually hit that thirty seven
percent, but with the trust, the
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tax rates are compressed. So if
you have over fifteen thousand and sixteen thousand
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dollars of income you'll be taxed at
thirty seven percent. And we were working
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through the paperwork to get the account
opened. And we're not used to seeing
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a revocable trust, or excuse me, an irrevocable trust, which is what
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this was. With a social Security
number. Those two things just don't go
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together. When you see an irrevocable
trust, you expect her to be an
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EI N number. And we were
wrestling with how this is supposed to work
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in and Jonathan, your office is
next to mine. I went, Jonathan,
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yeah, busy, yeah, And
it just fell under the Code six
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seventy eight rules for grand tour trust
and grand toward trusts if you have an
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interest in and you know, there's
a bunch of different rules, but in
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this case, if you have interest
in the income, it becomes a grand
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toward trust and income is taxable to
the beneficiary. At that point, I
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was gonna go real quick. We're
talking about business accounts a couple of weeks
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01:17:47,279 --> 01:17:50,560
ago, about why it's important to
switch over to an escort if you're just
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finally a schedule c right, And
we didn't really talk about that on that
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show, but I want to spend
a little bit time. The reason that's
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so valuable is then you can start
contributing to a four o one K exactly
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01:18:02,039 --> 01:18:06,319
right, and take advantage of further
tax efficiencies that are available to you.
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01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,920
Yeah. So Uh. In fact, I was talking to Dave a couple
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01:18:11,039 --> 01:18:15,039
days ago and I was saying,
Hey, who do you guys do with?
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01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,359
Who do you guys deal with for
payroll? Because I'm filing my twenty
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01:18:17,399 --> 01:18:20,920
five fifty three. Twenty five fifty
three is a form that you elect the
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S Corps status and Uh, basically
you become a shareholder and you have to
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01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,520
take payroll. And when you take
payroll, you're you're basically still tax as
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you are. Uh, and your
ESK or your schedule C, you know,
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everything flows to you. But you're
able to take certain benefits of being
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01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,880
an employee, like contributing to a
four oh one K and the maximum contributions
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01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:54,279
what nineteen five ninety with the employer
match, you're twenty two five and then
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you get seventy five hundred. Yeah, over fifty right, But I heard
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01:18:58,119 --> 01:19:00,760
that's going away. You said,
well, it's it's for people that make
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01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:05,000
over one hundred and forty two thousand
starting in twenty twenty five, I believe
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01:19:05,079 --> 01:19:09,640
it's going to start. It's gonna
have to be after tax contribution. It
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01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:13,359
can't be a pre tax contribution on
the catchup part. Oh, that's right.
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01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,960
And Jonathan, you're just now making
a change personally personally that I'm doing
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01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:21,600
with my own firm, and I
wouldn't recommend it if um, you know,
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01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:27,439
I wouldn't do it. And it's
absolutely an amazing tax saving opportunity.
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If you don't call me, you
know, call your local tax preparer.
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01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:31,439
They'll tell you the same thing.
I mean, yeah, that one case
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where this lady for ten years could
have saved herself probably thirty thousand dollars in
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01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:40,760
taxes if she was just switching to
an escort from the schedule. See,
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she probably could have saved it in
one year, right, you know?
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01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,399
And depending on how much you make, what is it if I'm if I'm
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a sole proprietor, I have a
little company to maybe I'm a mechanic,
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01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:55,439
maybe I'm a plumber. What what
makes me want to do that? What
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01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:59,039
is there something out to watch for
if my income is a certain level or
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01:19:59,119 --> 01:20:01,319
correct? What what is what's the
kicker? What's the catalyst? There's usually
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a sweet spot. I would say, if you're netting over forty thousand dollars,
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you should start considering an escorp,
but you have to be an active
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01:20:09,279 --> 01:20:13,159
member or an act. It should
be an active business. So you know,
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01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:15,800
if you're investing into rental real estate
and you you know, and you
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01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:19,439
guys are financial planners on the side
or for your main business, of course
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01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:23,279
you're not going to do the escorp. But if you are an actual plumber
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01:20:23,319 --> 01:20:29,840
or an actual mechanic or an attorney, you would file your SCORP and you
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01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,239
would probably look to see what would
make sense. Because yes, there are
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some more administration fees, there's payroll
that you're going to have to pay for,
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01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:40,960
there's another tax return you're going to
have to file. But as long
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01:20:41,039 --> 01:20:44,840
as that tax savings is more than
those administration fees, is a benefit,
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01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:49,479
and the tax savings would be derived
from what the tax savings. With an
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01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:53,680
escorp, you're no longer an owner, you're a shareholder. So there's no
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01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:59,319
self employment tax. So income that
comes into the business is not taxable unless
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you choose to take it. Is
that am I understand that correctly? There
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01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:06,600
won't be any self employment tax on
it? So you're fifteen point two self
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01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:13,439
employment tax. If you do an
SCORP, you there's no self employment tax
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at fifteen point two percent, but
you will have to take payroll and you
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01:21:16,239 --> 01:21:20,119
will have to do some withholdings.
You had a fifteen point two percent raise,
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01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,199
but some of that raise to pay
for these other things exactly. But
1140
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:29,039
you only have to pay yourself reasonable
compensation. So what would you there's different
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01:21:29,039 --> 01:21:31,000
ways to look at it, but
what would you pay somebody to do your
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01:21:31,079 --> 01:21:35,199
job? And so if you made
two hundred thousand dollars and you feel reasonable
1143
01:21:35,239 --> 01:21:40,399
compensation is one hundred thousand dollars,
you may have saved self employment tax on
1144
01:21:40,399 --> 01:21:44,960
one hundred thousand dollars. But just
in general terms, and again very general
1145
01:21:45,079 --> 01:21:49,520
terms, do you think if someone
has taxable income of forty thousand dollars or
1146
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:54,479
more? I think so it's something
that and again it's not casting concrete.
1147
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:59,039
That's just a guideline. So if
you're out there in your plumber or whatever
1148
01:21:59,319 --> 01:22:00,840
and you're making one hundred and a
half, you probably ought to be thinking
1149
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,000
about it. Absolutely, And that's
not even counting the four oh one k
1150
01:22:04,079 --> 01:22:08,920
and how that saves on top right, producing your taxable income. There you
1151
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,359
go. So if you contribute to
a four oh one K at nineteen five,
1152
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:16,640
that twenty two five is tax deductible
and it's a it's deferred income.
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01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:21,359
Yeah. So there's a lot of
opportunities for business owners and that's why the
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01:22:21,399 --> 01:22:26,199
financial plan it can be done for
individuals and business owners. We've done multiple
1155
01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:31,359
financial plans where we have almost like
a two fauceted faceted financial plan where one
1156
01:22:31,359 --> 01:22:35,119
of it's personal and then we put
in maybe they have three two, three
1157
01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:39,600
four businesses. We can put that
in as an entity in the plan showing
1158
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,119
when we might sell that asset,
what type of taxes we expect is to
1159
01:22:43,239 --> 01:22:46,039
spend or have to pay on when
we get the proceeds from the businesses,
1160
01:22:46,199 --> 01:22:49,680
what type of revenue is that business
currently making. All that we can be
1161
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:53,960
incorporated into the financial plan. So
you don't have a full picture just for
1162
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:58,079
yourself, but for your businesses and
your family. Absolutely not. For years,
1163
01:22:58,159 --> 01:23:01,279
Dean's been trying to put together h
financial mall, if you will,
1164
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:06,479
where you walk in and there anything
you need, whether it be a mortgage,
1165
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:12,920
whether it be a lawyer, whether
it be life insurance, health insurance,
1166
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,920
casualty, insurance, money management,
accounting, whatever you need, you'd
1167
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:21,319
be able to get that at the
financial mall shop. And I think you've
1168
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:27,800
you've succeeded in accomplishing that, mister
Greenberg. It's getting there. Yeah,
1169
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,039
time, Well, that's always got
to work it out. We've had people
1170
01:23:30,079 --> 01:23:33,920
in out. You know, you
gotta get through it and eventually it sticks,
1171
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,079
you know. I think the biggest
thing is if you notice, the
1172
01:23:38,119 --> 01:23:42,119
people that end up sticking are the
people that know how to work no work
1173
01:23:42,159 --> 01:23:45,000
out as a team. It's not
about them, it's not about I.
1174
01:23:45,159 --> 01:23:49,239
It's about week. It's about helping
each other growing together. Okay, And
1175
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:54,279
in my business I've been forty years, it's hard to find a lot of
1176
01:23:54,279 --> 01:23:58,319
people that are the stand team.
We even had a situation this past week
1177
01:23:58,359 --> 01:24:01,720
where there was an elderly couple that
had a piece of real estate that utility
1178
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,640
company was trying to buy from them, and of course that would have been
1179
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:10,359
a huge capital gain, and we
were able to advise them how to counter
1180
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:15,039
that and they ended up with sixty
thousand dollars more money than what they would
1181
01:24:15,079 --> 01:24:17,119
have had had they not spoken to
us. A good So there is a
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01:24:17,159 --> 01:24:21,960
plethora of things we can do to
help. Okay, Jonathan, as always,
1183
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:26,319
we'll see you next week. We
appreciate your showing up. You need
1184
01:24:26,359 --> 01:24:30,840
some mistake planning. Will's trust do
it and he has the same same schedule
1185
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:34,479
we do. When it's costing value, price has got to be lower.
1186
01:24:35,159 --> 01:24:39,479
Got to give you your value,
and I promise you will. If not,
1187
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,720
you come say something to me first
consol, first consult. We'll be
1188
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:59,319
back will your Money Matters in just
a minute. All right, everybody,
1189
01:24:59,319 --> 01:25:01,439
we're back. It's last segment.
We appreciate you're listening. You know,
1190
01:25:02,399 --> 01:25:06,520
if you need to go back and
listen at any of our shows, just
1191
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:12,199
go to Money Matters with Dean Greenberg. It's on all the podcasts. Go
1192
01:25:12,279 --> 01:25:15,359
to our website. You can get
it on there or just get an iHeart
1193
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:21,079
radio and you'll be able to listen
live. Yeah, take advantage of our
1194
01:25:21,119 --> 01:25:25,079
YouTube page. You can find that
on our website as well. All of
1195
01:25:25,079 --> 01:25:29,119
our podcasts easily accessible on our pod
page. So, and if you go
1196
01:25:29,119 --> 01:25:32,279
to a website, YouTube is up
on the right hand side. Top.
1197
01:25:33,119 --> 01:25:36,079
Okay, and it's that little TV
thing on there. Well Mike, isn't
1198
01:25:36,079 --> 01:25:40,720
it. But what was a little
MiCT the top? Last on the left,
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top left, and that's for any
of the any of the TV.
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01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:48,119
The TV's on the other one.
The TV is what's what's on YouTube?
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01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:54,800
That shows? All weekly market updates
are shows? Um, yeah, like
1202
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,479
I said, the weekly market updates, we post that once a week on
1203
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,840
Facebook on Friday's just wrapping up the
week. More shorter videos as well.
1204
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:06,159
There probably gonna be looking and try
to do some new TV shows in September.
1205
01:26:06,199 --> 01:26:12,760
Areas. So got more things education
stuff building for sure, Yeah,
1206
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,279
definitely education on the YouTube video.
We want to build a whole education platform.
1207
01:26:15,279 --> 01:26:18,159
So it's not timely. It's not
like this radio show where it's more
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current events. It's more just about
financial education. So we're only I mean,
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we're about to We're at forty six
hundred now, right, are we
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going to hit a new all time
high on the SMP. Who knows,
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well, well, nobody knows that
whole thing. You make a decision and
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you say, okay, I don't
think there's enough liquidity here. I don't
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think there's enough money here, And
all of a sudden, interest rates keep
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going high, which is what made
the market go down before, they keep
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going higher now. People just taking
cash because they have so much on the
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sidelines and and putting it into the
market because they don't want to miss out.
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I think a lot of the hals
togo be going on right now.
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But you've seen it like on that
on Thursday when the market was up five
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hundred, almost four hundred and the
SMP was up forty something closed down thirty.
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Let me ask you, it can
happen that you both you you're around
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into two thousands. I saw a
chart in January twenty twenty where now January
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two thousand, where the we had
a similar interest rate environment with the ten
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year um where the nastack was just
taking off and leaving any real return of
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the ten year treasury in the dust. And there's a huge divergence there.
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And then we had the dot com
bubble and it all fell off the cliff.
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And now what does this feel like? Anything like two thousand? A
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little, not not totally. AI
though, is spurring things on if you
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notice. Okay, people and watch
the scam is calling you with all these
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companies that put AI in it all
right, listen, AI still has many
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many, many, many many many
years ago, especially mostly small companies have
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nothing. They're all pushing down okay, but Microsoft, you know, Apple,
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Google, They all part of that
meta, the all part of the
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big time of the AIS, and
they might buy out some of those other
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companies. We don't know what direction
is going, Dave, Right, okay,
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I mean the other thing a few
years ago, right, I think
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it was eighteen and nineteen, it
was all about the weed stocks. Now
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I wanna we're gonna they're gonna approve
it, They're gonna. Well, they
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01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:28,439
did approve it a lot, maybe
not federally, but they approved it in
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a lot of states. And the
stock that was like, I don't know,
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uh CSG well, what's her name? It can't be big growth?
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01:28:35,039 --> 01:28:39,920
Yeah, right, it's thirty nine
cents now, yeah, I remember Consolation
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Brands bought half the company for thirty
nine dollars a year, and I finished
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01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:45,920
today, I finished Friday at forty
seven tenths and he got the seventy dollars
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01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,239
a share at one point. Yes, the MJETF which is a bunch of
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01:28:49,239 --> 01:28:53,840
the weed companies, is three dollars
and fifty cents right now. It was
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01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:59,079
like like fifty todd I would say
the big differences in two thousand a good
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01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:04,760
twenty five to forty percent of the
companies in the trading over the counter didn't
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have anything in the way of sales
product. It would just pine the sky
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01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:15,640
stuff. This is a lot more
solid rally than two thousand, So either
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01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,039
similarities, like Dean said, it
feels a little similar, feels a little
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01:29:18,159 --> 01:29:24,439
little parabolic, if you will,
but the gigantic difference, and it really
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01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:28,279
is just being driven by seven stocks. It's by seven stocks, and they're
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01:29:28,279 --> 01:29:31,960
all real, they're all doing great, but they're they're bringing everything along.
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Dan. I want to talk a
little bit about treasuries if I can,
1255
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because interest rates have risen so far, so fast. Most of the treasury
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notes that people are buying in the
secondary market are older and they have lower
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interest rates. And I want to
give an example if you wanted to get
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let's say, for right now,
the return on a twelve month treasury is
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five percent. Just for simplest,
it's a little higher than that, but
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let's say it's five percent. You
might be buying a two I've actually used
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a two year a two year note, and maybe that interest rate. The
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actual interest rate on those bonds is
only two percent. The coupon rate,
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01:30:11,399 --> 01:30:14,000
right, So the coupon at the
interest rate. Most people don't know a
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coupon means. So the interest rate, which is a coupon is another word
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01:30:16,079 --> 01:30:19,439
for interest rate. The interest rate
on the bond is two percent. So
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01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:25,279
in order to get that five percent, you're buying that treasury at a discount,
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all right, And people say,
well, that's good. I'll be
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able to get the two percent interest, and then at the end, I'll
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01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,359
be able to sell it and I'll
have a long term capital gain, or
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01:30:33,399 --> 01:30:36,720
one of the maturs, I'll have
a long term capital gain because I will
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have held it for two years.
Treasury interest payments are not taxable on the
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01:30:42,319 --> 01:30:45,560
state level, which is good,
but that going from ninety four cents.
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01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:48,960
Again, using my example, on
a two year piece of paper that has
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a two percent interest rate, you'd
need to buy it at ninety four,
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so you get six percent appreciation four
percent interest over a two year period.
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01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:03,880
That's five percent a year. In
a weird IRS quirk, Treasury appreciation of
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more than twenty five basis points per
year is taxed as regular income, not
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01:31:12,279 --> 01:31:15,159
capital gains. Right, So in
that particular case, if you bought it
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01:31:15,199 --> 01:31:16,720
in ninety four, you say,
well, it's going to mature to par
1280
01:31:17,279 --> 01:31:21,439
so I'm gonna get that six percent
at capital gains rates. No, you
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01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:28,000
won't because that's more than the twenty
five basis points per year, so your
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coupon rate has to be very very
close to your yield worse. I think,
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I think when you look at treasuries, you don't want to think in
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01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:39,640
terms of capital gains period. Just
think of ordinary income. I just think
1285
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,680
in terms of ordinary income is easier. You might maybe pick up a little
1286
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,840
a few pennies capital gain here and
there, but whether it be zero coupon
1287
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:51,479
bonds or deep discounted treasury notes,
think of them as taxable income. Don't
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01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:57,039
think of them as as capital gains. Great point. I thought it was
1289
01:31:57,119 --> 01:32:00,279
kind of interesting, and that's really
is kind of a quirk for treasuries.
1290
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,439
Twenty five basis points a year you
get, so if you'd have bought it
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01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:09,960
at ninety nine and a half,
right, then you have capital gains right
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01:32:10,079 --> 01:32:15,239
on that on that half, which
brings us back to my conservative income plex
1293
01:32:15,279 --> 01:32:18,000
growth model. Yes, I thought
that was a good six sig sick.
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01:32:18,359 --> 01:32:25,159
And the reason is it's for ultra
conservative people. There you go, thank
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01:32:25,199 --> 01:32:30,640
you, cig. That's why I
have you young guys. You actually listen,
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01:32:31,119 --> 01:32:34,439
but seriously, uh, because they
can actually hear. So you take
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01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:41,800
the treasuries. You take the treasuries
and you get them out a discount,
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01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,840
you get an income flow off there. They will give you exactly what you
1299
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:49,840
did if some of you have you
had one hundred thousand dollars and you paid
1300
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:56,119
ninety two thousand form when they mature, you have one hundred thousand. You'll
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01:32:56,159 --> 01:33:01,159
also have your two percent on that
on those hundred bonds. But here's the
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01:33:01,279 --> 01:33:04,199
kick of what we do. Now, we take the interest, we take
1303
01:33:04,239 --> 01:33:08,840
the difference of that eight thousand,
and we take the interest and we invest
1304
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:14,039
it in our ETF model, a
growth model. So you can get a
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01:33:14,199 --> 01:33:15,920
kick of well, if you have
a good deal like this, it's up,
1306
01:33:16,079 --> 01:33:19,720
if it's down, say the market
goes down fifty percent, you will
1307
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:26,520
still have more money from the interests
that you got and the and the difference
1308
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:30,399
of the of the ninety two one
hundred you got, so you'll always have
1309
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,920
more than your principle. That's like
to the two year bond example I gave.
1310
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:38,359
If if that were a zero coupon, you probably pay for a two
1311
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:42,359
year ninety cents on the dollar,
right, So you got one hundred thousand
1312
01:33:42,359 --> 01:33:45,239
dollars. If you put ninety thousand
dollars into the zero coupon two years zero
1313
01:33:45,319 --> 01:33:50,239
coupon bond, the other ten you
can roll a dice as aggressively as you
1314
01:33:50,359 --> 01:33:54,920
want the worst thing to happen.
Did you get your money back? Period?
1315
01:33:55,000 --> 01:34:00,119
Guaranteed SIG model CIG conservative income plus
growth. If an interests you call
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01:34:00,199 --> 01:34:02,880
us, we'll go a little bit
with you. Yeah. Absolutely, And
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01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:08,199
obviously we've already talked about the mega
rates increasing five point three percent. Another
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01:34:08,279 --> 01:34:13,359
great place always been talking about the
treasure ladders. Van guard money market continues
1319
01:34:13,399 --> 01:34:16,520
to stay high, elevated at five
percent ladders. I mean, there's so
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01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:19,640
much we can do now that we
couldn't do two years ago, three years
1321
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:24,359
ago. Higher interest rates have really
opened up the door. And also keep
1322
01:34:24,399 --> 01:34:28,399
talking this for money that's just sitting
in your savings account. But also,
1323
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,880
I mean, if you're an investor
who isn't that risky as an investor and
1324
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,920
we've had this big run up,
it might make sense to take some chips
1325
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:38,239
off the table, take advantage of
the interest where you're guaranteed, and then
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01:34:38,319 --> 01:34:41,600
my markets fall down, then take
advantage of ten percent, take it with
1327
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:43,960
winnings off the table. Put it
in the miga locket in a five point
1328
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,640
because if in six months the markets
do drop twenty five percent, you're going
1329
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,319
to be kicking yourself knowing that you
could have taken that money locked in.
1330
01:34:49,359 --> 01:34:53,720
Then you know that myga at five
point three, you're looking at compounding at
1331
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:57,399
once a year. It's almost thirty
percent, almost thirty percent. Right,
1332
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:01,640
you put one hundred grand, no, one hundred grand in air and at
1333
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:06,439
the end of five years you're gonna
have one hundred and thirty grand period or
1334
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:11,520
nearly one with compound period there.
Yeah, I mean that. Gosh,
1335
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,520
how do you beat that? Yeah, there's no trend. Awefully long time
1336
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,960
since we've been able to say something
like that. Right, you can make
1337
01:35:17,039 --> 01:35:23,680
almost thirty percent over a five year
period, guaranteed period. Right. It's
1338
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:27,960
funny. You can say guaranteed buddy
insurance company, right, but we can
1339
01:35:28,039 --> 01:35:30,720
never say it, even though that's
because they they loll be like crazy.
1340
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,880
You know, those insurance companies.
They got a lot of violence in Washington.
1341
01:35:34,119 --> 01:35:36,600
Buy is zokoon pump on? Do
you what's government's going to give you
1342
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:41,840
the money? Right? But we
can't say it's guaranteed it's not weird.
1343
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,960
Yeah, there's word and then I
don't know. The insurance companies, the
1344
01:35:45,039 --> 01:35:48,920
way they sell it's incredible. They
not to mention. They sell annuities on
1345
01:35:49,039 --> 01:35:56,079
fear. Might be why they're also
large, also large. We were Frantica
1346
01:35:56,159 --> 01:35:59,359
one in Des Moines, Iowa that
has two hundred and fifty billion in assets,
1347
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,039
right, are you kidding me?
It's a little insurance company in Des
1348
01:36:02,079 --> 01:36:05,680
Moines, Iowa. Two hundred and
fifty billion dollars. Believe it or not.
1349
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,760
We'll coming to the end of the
show again. It goes quick,
1350
01:36:10,079 --> 01:36:14,880
all right, So give us a
call. If you want a complimentary plan
1351
01:36:15,119 --> 01:36:16,840
done for you or anyone, you'll
just call us, and it is.
1352
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:18,960
We give it to you. You
don't have to do business with us to
1353
01:36:19,039 --> 01:36:23,000
get it. We do it.
We'll be back next week. Will your
1354
01:36:23,039 --> 01:36:28,199
money matters? We want everyone to
be happy and to be happy. We
1355
01:36:28,319 --> 01:36:31,439
want to be healthy, and if
we're happy and healthy, we all want
1356
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:35,520
to strive to be prof say it's
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