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Good morning, everybody. This is
the Money Matter Show. It's Sunday morning,
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eight o'clock right here on seven ninety
knst. Over the next two hours,
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we're going to try to bring you
our opinions, our ideas. What's
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going on in the markets and how
it's being affected by everything going on.
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And man, is there a lot
going on. You try to look at
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out there and you go wow,
no, wonder the markets going down.
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We had the chairman of the Federal
Reserve that just wants to break it,
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break the economy. We've got the
war that keeps getting worse over in the
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Middle East than they talk about escalation. We got the other war in Ukraine.
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We got Russia talking about testing nuclear
weapons again, getting rid of the
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ban. I mean, it's just
a joke. And then we sit here
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listening to Biden ask for another one
hundred and six billion dollars for aid to
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everybody. Meanwhile, we can't afford
what we're doing here now. I'm not
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saying we don't give aid. What
I'm saying is, let's get her act
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together. Guys. Oil got backed
over ninety dollars a barrel. The UAW
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is still on strike, the prices
of cars are going to go through the
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roof. We need to bring down
inflation, and we need to all help
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bring down inflation, including our damned
government who can't even get the Republican speaker
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back in when that is probably the
biggest blunder I have seen in politics for
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a long time. And it's not
about Oustingham ousting McCarthy with eight people.
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That's not what I'm talking about.
The rules, that's the rules. But
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we talk about always having a plan, because if you don't have a plan,
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you end up looking like idiots.
And now they're on the third,
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fourth, whatever, fifth vote for
Jim Jordan. How did they not have
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somebody in mind that can get all
the votes when he ousted the one guy
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that was in communication of trying to
put the deals together. Eight people do
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not represent the entire country. The
Republicans as a group have the power,
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but once they fracture, we don't
have the power anymore, which makes us
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look bad and people on the other
side saying, Okay, how do we
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get some of this power even though
we don't have the numbers, Because there's
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a lot of moderate Republicans that are
saying this is ridiculous, and it is
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ridiculous and it's not ridiculous because they
asked McCarthy to step down and they voted
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against it. How to vote of
confidence against them? What's ridiculous is that
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people think that if you don't get
what you want, you automatically get rid
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of somebody without a compromise. There's
one, okay, so you get rid
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of them, But you don't have
a plan. What was their plan to
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put the House speaker in in the
midst of everything that's going on. You
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need a speaker to be able to
put to bring together to the table of
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Lord's proposals ideas to be voted on. And we sit here for three weeks
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now without somebody holding the gavel.
Maybe you don't think it's bad. I
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do. If you want to do
it, have a plan. I've never
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done anything without understanding the consequences of
both sides of something. Figure it out.
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Every time I invest in the market, to have a plan. If
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it's going down, what level do
I go ahead and reduce my risk?
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If it's going up at what level
do I reduce my risk? I mitigate
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risk. When the markets get too
high, then I start selling off some.
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But I never come out of everything
because I know I could be wrong,
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just like these guys are wrong.
They don't have anyone to replace them,
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so we go down the road with
nothing. What we do is we
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want to lax any sanctions we have
on countries already. So this week we
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lacks the sanctions we have on Venezuela
oil. Why do we have sanctioned on
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them in the first place? Why
are we allowing them to pump more oil
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but we won't? How ridiculous common
sense is that that we're trying to do
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the carbon deal right clean eze.
I want that, but we won't do
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it here, but we're gonna let
other people do it everywhere else. Start
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drilling our damn oil, start reducing
the regulations, relaxing on the regulations,
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and they could oil down, so
our inflation could come down. So a
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fed Champian doesn't have to sit there
on in the island by himself talking about
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how he has to keep rates higher
for longer, and now he sees the
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risk. We are gonna break the
banks. I am telling you that we're
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gonna break these regional and small type
banks. They can't do all loans.
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Now, they're gonna start seeing problems
next year with people with the loans,
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especially commercial loans come and do that
were maybe at five six percent, and
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now they're gonna be looking at nine
maybe depending on the on the on the
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asset. Consumer loans, personal loans, they're ten to eleven twelve percent.
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Mortgages are over eight and a half
percent. It's one thing. If it
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was gradually over five or six or
seven years, it's another one. It's
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less than two years, less than
a year and a half. We're pounding
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away at these interest rates. That's
a problem, But yet we don't cut
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spending. Every one of you that
are listening to me, understand what I'm
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saying right now. If it costs
more money to go to the grocery store,
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more money to go to the guests
and fill up your car, more
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money to pay for electricity, more
money to pay for water, more money
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to just live, where's it come
from. Ninety nine points nine percent of
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the people must stop spending so much. Cut out some things. And it's
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always about entertainment or drinking a partying, or going on trips or doing something
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other than your basic living. And
when that happens, it brings down the
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economy. Because if someone doesn't go
on vacation, then that hotel room is
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not being filled. That means they
don't need as many workers there. That
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means the food people, the truck
people, the transportation people, you name
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it. They all start getting down
and then everyone starts laying off people down
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the road. Is that what Chairman
Powell wants? Probably not, but he
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won't do anything because he cannot do
anything without the rest of the government helping
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them. This is the Money Matter
Show, as you know, and it
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members of Froom, members of SIPICK. We talk about a lot of different
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stuff on this show. We talk
about product strategy, these ideas. We
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all have our own opinions. If
you don't realize that everything everything you do,
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we do, anybody does as risk, then you're not listening to what's
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out there. Risk is everywhere.
Understand the risk, calculate the risk,
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and don't be afraid of the risk
as long as it's what you can handle.
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If you can't handle any risk,
you better be in a money market
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fund, government securities, and that's
fine. We got people that just buy
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government securities now paying us over five
percent. They're happy. We're happy.
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We'll do what your needs are and
your risk tolerance are. But we have
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a plan. Our government doesn't have
the plan. The Republicans don't have a
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plan. I don't know what a
plan is. In Israel, I think
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they have a plan. They're supporting
them. It's still just chast me that
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our universities, these young people who
are absolutely preserved, don't understand the damn
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thing having pro Palestine rallies. Don't
they understand this is not against the Palestinian
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people. Israelis and Palestinian people live
and commingle their lives together. There's not
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a wall like there was in Berlin, East Germany and West Germany. Now
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there's a war. There's a fence
with openings that people go back and forth.
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They have to have permits for work
permits and stuff. Sure, but
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they can live together. That's where
they were going. But Harmas came off
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as good Palestinian people, but they
were really wolf. There were sheep and
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wolves. There were wolves in sheep
clothing. They were the Trojan horse.
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They invaded within. So when people
say pro Palestine, pro Palestine. This
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is great. They're fighting for Palestine. They are not fighting for Palestine.
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Has Bola and Hamas are not fighting
for Palestinians. They are fighting for the
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cause that Iran tells him the hate
Israel and all these people that are protesting
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are the same left liberals that tell
everyone they're racist and tear down all the
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statues and get rid of everything else. But they won't go ahead and go
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against Hamas and Headpola, which means
the pro Iran and anti Semites. Where's
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the hate there. We have very
selective ability to talk to people about what
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they want and what they don't want, but you cannot talk to people that
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are brain dead that don't understand the
difference between the terrorist groups and the Palestinian
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people. And if you do not
think that the Israelis are trying to do
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everything not to go ahead and kill
civilians, then you're crazy. They have
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given them time. It's harmas that
do not let the Palestinians out of their
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own country for safety because they know
don well the only protection they're going to
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get when Israeli comes in and just
mows them down will be the world saying,
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oh they killed civilians. They're using
them as human shields. But nobody
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talks about Israelis getting slaughtered in their
homes, in their beds, on the
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kibbutzers at a music festival. We
got a problem. We got a problem
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in America. And tell you something. They're infiltrating America, and I believe
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that just like they infiltrated our air
trapped our pilots training, and we're able
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to get into the seven forty sevens
and demolish the World Trade Center and the
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Pentagon and then the heroes that brought
them down in Pennsylvania. Let's face it,
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guys, we are blind to anything
because we're afraid of something. Saying
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something, Looking at something the wrong
way. Is somebody trying to cancel somebody
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until it happens to you. And
I don't want it to happen to us.
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But you know they're coming over the
border. We live here. We
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hear about it. I know people
on the border control patrol they see it,
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hear it all the time. But
we act like, no, I
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hate America. I hate Israelies.
Then you know what, go fight for
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Hamas or has Bola or some other
place, but get the hell out of
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here. I'm tired of it.
I'm tired of watching education go down the
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drain. I'm tired of listening to
kids that don't know what is going on
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and they think it's cool to protest
against anything that makes sense. But we
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have to have it because it's free
speech. But when we have free speech,
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we get centured. When we want
to be pro life and there's violence,
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we get sentient. How many people
got arrested at the Capitol when they
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went in there with their sit down
and started protesting, telling you that they
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want to cease fire and Israel and
everything else, basically blame in Israel pro
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Palestidians. How many people got arrested? I thought you weren't allowed in the
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capitol to be protesting inside the capitol, or you get arrested or is it
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just that the people on the right
side get arrested? And I understand it
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wasn't the same level that happened on
January sixth. I get that. You
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don't have to tell me that.
I get that, But you know what,
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they always make excuses because I remember
the Summer of Love in Seattle not
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too long ago, blowing up police
stations, setting everything on fire, demolishing
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property, federal property. Oh,
it's a summer of love. We can't
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do anything to them. But if
the right does anything steps out of line,
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and they can go ahead and do
something, they do. They arrest
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people left and right and throw away
to keep pretty much. They come up
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with ideas, they come up with
ways to hurt their opponents. I mean,
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look what Trump is going through.
Come on like him or not like
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him. What he's going through is
insane, insane. Anybody that's in the
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real estate business has tell you right
now, they put down what they a
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price on their buildings. If there's
nobody going out there and doing an estimate,
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they're estimating. And if the benks
don't like it, they'll come back
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and tell you, I think that's
high. They'll get an appraisal, and
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every once in a while they do
do an appraisal, so can't go that
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many years without it. But they
exaggerate. The media exaggerates because everyone wants
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you to think that Trump did all
these illegal things and there's no way should
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be president. Take it all away. But think about what they did with
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Trump. They lied about him with
Russia, lied lied about him with Ukraine,
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lied about him with China. But
what did he accomplish Look what he
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did in the Middle East. He
came with the Abraham Peace Accord. He
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was just getting the Arabs and the
Jews to start talking and agreeing to some
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type of piece of working together.
And what did we get. As soon
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as Biden came in, what did
he do? He broke that up.
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He got rid of it because he
decided to take the sanctions off Iran.
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Iran was being squeezed. That's why
the Middle the countries in the Middle East
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started to talk with Israel. Israelis
because Iran was economically not able to do
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what they needed them to do.
What happens Nukid, everybody was worried,
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we're going to go to war with
Russia or China. Well guess what happened
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on the Biden Now we're talking about
nuclear testing again. But no, it
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was everybody else. Tony of the
Trump sits there with the red button at
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night, and what if he just
decides to push it? Just stupid,
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stupid images that the media put out. It's Biden's group that's getting us there.
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It's this left that allows everyone to
do what they want to do and
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keeps agreeing with them, and they
won't compromise. It's the regulations that we
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put on oil, and we go
from being absolutely independent energy independent to have
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an export again. But the craziest
thing is what did they say to us
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when they started going into our reserves
or oil preserves, that we'll buy back
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oil when it gets down to the
seventies. We're gonna bring the price of
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oil down. Yeah, they wrote
those coat tails all the way down to
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seventy. In fact, they got
to sixty one. And you heard on
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our show, we kept saying,
has anybody heard about us replenishing the spr
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No, we didn't because they didn't. But this week I heard they're gonna
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stop buying like four or six million
barrels back into the reserve. They're gonna
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stop buying oil back and increasing oil
reserves this week at ninety dollars. But
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no one makes a big deal.
No one questions them. They need to
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be questioned on their economic fiscal ideas
of what they're doing. They are going
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to bankrupt the hell out of this
country. We cannot keep giving hundreds of
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billions of dollars away when we can't
even go ahead live here. Interest rates
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are so high right now, you're
gonna see at default rate that's gonna go
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through the roof next year. If
these rates don't come down, people are
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using their savings to be able to
pay for things. They're gonna stop paying
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on credit cards. The credit cards
are gonna get maxed up. People are
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gonna say, well on credits ruined
already. I'm just gonna wait this out.
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Hopefully the government will go ahead and
make a deal. They did with
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what they were trying to do on
government loans, and it comes over the
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idea, oh, well, you
know these government loans, these school loans
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that these kids have, we'll pay
them off. Because in that way of
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the help with retirement, I promise
you they were putting no money away for
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retirement while they were not having to
pay those loans. If they were doing
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it, they didn't increase it.
If they weren't doing it, they didn't
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add to it. Kids don't do
that unless they have people that they respect
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that can show them what to do
and have them help them do it.
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Everything in this world right now just
seems like seated the pants decisions. I
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don't see anyone strategically enough making a
plan that could even project that plan.
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So it makes sense to us,
the American people, the Republicans make no
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sense. The border makes no sense, the wars make no sense. Giving
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away money indiscriminately and not nowhere it
goes makes no sense. Putting everything down
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as we need this for climate climate
change money. Otherwise the world won't be
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here in fifteen years hogwash and hear
it forever. And you know what.
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In fact, I was watching a
special going back millions of years and they
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were talking about the two or three
ice ages we've gone through and the animals
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that were on the planet and how
they're then when they melted and the continent
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came together, and that's how animals
went from one side to the other.
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You know, they were talking about
climate changes when there was no talk about
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climate change because there was nobody talking. So what's the difference between millions of
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years and thousands of years ago than
to where it is today? Just different
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causes, I guess over a period
of time, this is the things that
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happened, and you adapt as a
society or you don't. You're adapt as
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animals or you don't, and then
it evolves back. So when you look
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at all this, why are we
fighting, why are people dying? Why
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are these things going on? Because
we're here for such a short period of
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time. Think about that. They
need to all get their act together.
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They all need to start working together. We as the United States need to
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get strong again. He needs to
get strong. Watching the markets go down
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two and a half percent for the
dial for the S and P this week,
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another three percent for the Nasdaq,
I mean, the everything's down except
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the S and P and the Nasdaq
that had those magnificent seven stocks. We'll
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be talking about some of them later, like Netflix and all two, but
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the rest of two thousands down down
four and a half percent year to date,
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and the equal weighted S and P
five hundred, which is where people
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diversifying their mutual funds, is down
three percent for the year. Bonds,
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intermediate long term bonds are getting killed. They're down over twenty percent again this
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year because interestrates keep going higher,
causing effect risk. You need a plan
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on how to mitigate your risk,
and the only way you get that is
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to a financial plan, retirement plan. You have to know everything you got.
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We do a great job doing that
because it's not just putting in numbers,
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it's understanding the person. It's their
life, what they're trying to achieve,
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and how long they want to achieve
it, and what they want to
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do when they get to retirement.
The plan is always about the retirement because
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that's when your income drives out.
So retirement maybe it's not. It's about
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when you don't have a job anymore, whether it's because you're retiring or you
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get laid off. You gotta have
some type of plan. And if your
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plan is I'm gonna live off the
government, well go ahead and do it,
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because one day you're gonna wake up
and they're gonna say, hey,
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I got cut I gotta cut Medicare, I gotta cut Social Security, and
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they're gonna have to do that one
day if we don't get a hands around
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it, because there's people are living
longer and there's not enough people in the
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work force that are gonna want to
keep seeing their taxes raised to pay for
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the older people. And I don't
blame them. After all these years,
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you would think somebody, some smart
person would come up with a different idea
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on how to make it all work. But no, they don't. They
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just keep poking, kicking the can
down the road, and then they get
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eighty ninety years old they die.
In the next group that was fifty and
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now seventy they keep doing the same
thing. We need changes, real changes
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for the people of America before we're
the ones that become instinct. We'll be
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back with everybody. I do appreciate
everybody listening to the Money Matter Show.
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Welcome back everybody. This is the
Money Matter Show. This is Dean Greenberg,
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I got Dave Show with Dylan Greenberg
and of course Todd Glick. We
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are going to bring you a lot
of information today, so stay through the
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whole time because there was a lot
of stuff going on. But to start
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off, the market's were all down
again this week and they're kind of getting
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scary. I'm not going to deny
it, but that's when you got to
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be looking the well. There's a
good support at forty forty two hundred on
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the S and P five hundred.
Right. We've been going down there twice
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now and bounced off of it.
We closed it forty two to twenty four.
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I'm thinking we probably go open down
on Monday and maybe get a bounce
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on Tuesday, hopefully. The problem
I have I looked at the technicals on
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it under forty two hundred. There's
really no real support levels unless you go
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way back and the idea is you
want to try to find some some some
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channels on it. So when you
have that situation, the risk get higher.
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So that's why you don't want to
buy right away, because this market
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could even if it turns around,
which just like you're saying, it's probably
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going to make a lower high and
it come down again, and then you
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usually see it just bounce around a
little bit in a week or two,
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back and forth, back and forth, and that puts the bottom in and
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then you start because it doesn't go
from decline to up right away. Decline,
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of course, up a little bit, coming down a little bit.
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It bounces around the bottom, back
and forth, back and forth, starts
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taking off, gets higher than that
last high that they had, and then
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it all breaks out. And you
know, you got between now and the
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end of the year that we could
have a decent move up if some of
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these things start getting a hands around
them, any of these things, rising
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interest rates, rising oil prices,
the war in Ukraine, the war in
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Israel, anything gets better. H
this market is ready to go. And
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we have to keep in mind first
of November to the end of January responsible
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for sixty percent of all gains historically, So we're entering a very strong period
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for the market historically, Yeah,
I mean right now for this year historically
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is September was bad, August was
bad, which usually is beginning in the
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middle of October's bad, and then
we do see a run up to the
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end of the year. So if
historically, I mean, it's showing a
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normal year, right, it really
is. It is a script in a
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sense, it's showing the normal scripts, kind of the normal script. Yeah.
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So we'll see obviously how it ends. But in your career, how
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many times have we seen the bottom
scariest heck in October? Yeah? Often,
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and then the bottom's in and then
next thing you know, we're looking
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at Wow, we just rallied five
percent to the end of the year.
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More right, And when it does, when it does reverse, reverses so
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violently and so quickly that Thursday you
can't get out and then get back in.
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That's just simply not going to happen. But more importantly, how appropriate
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is it, guys, that we
would end the hottest summer in history with
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the hottest October, the latest hundred
degree day ever, Yeah, Friday in
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history, Yep, Friday. It
was actually Thursday, and then Friday,
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so both days never had one hundred
degree day this late in the month of
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October. Ever, the good news
is winter is coming next week. Yeah,
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we're I'm looking at temperatures in the
low seventies for a high, which
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means the overnight lows are in the
low fifties. I just need to figure
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out what goes through your brain.
We're talking about the markets and everything,
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and somehow you start talking about the
weather. I don't understand how that happens.
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We're talking about now history, We're
talking about historical trends, right,
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so we've got a new historical trend
here. We're hotter. Now, Okay,
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I'm like, okay, you see, I want to talk about the
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markets. How about it? People
want to listen to the markets, and
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somehow you got to put in the
weather. About interestration, that's why interestration
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new sixteen year high there, I
mean that's yeah. The ten year hit
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over five percent on Wednesday night for
the first time since two thousand and sevens
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you Drake's over eight for the first
time in twenty three years. Yeah,
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it's all yeah, uh trying his
GDPs cranking along. Huh? What about
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just a personal loan? Now?
It's ten eleven twelve percent. Raise it
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for a personal loan. Yeah,
for most people think about credit cards.
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What do you think? But you
don't think they've been raising the interest rates
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on everyone that hasn't been paying off
they were They are called every month.
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You know, we commonly say twenty
percent, but it's probably much above that
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now. Huh. It's usually around
twenty three twenty four percent I've seen.
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Yeah, how do you pay it
off? That's crazy, that's crazy.
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That means if you have one thousand
dollars on there, you got two hundred
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and forty dollars of interest each year. Yeah, I mean, how do
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you ever catch up? Oil?
Touch ninety Deen, I think you mentioned
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in your monologue finished the week at
eighty eight seventy five, up a buck
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on the week. Gold continues to
just soar and has nothing. And we've
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talked a nauseum about the gold being
tied to the dollar. Gold moves inversely
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to the dollar. This move off
of eighteen hundred to nineteen eighty two,
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almost almost more than a ten percent
move, has been strictly based upon the
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war. The dollar has not budged, so it's got Cosco costco, costco
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can't buy enough gold to sell it
out to their customers. You want to
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hear an interesting Costco story? This
is really cool. They've got a new
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CEO and it was expected. It's, you know, the chain of everybody's
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moving along. Ron Vaccarus, I
believe it is fifty eight years old.
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He's been with Costco for forty year. He's the new CEO. Guess what
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his first job was to Costco?
Forklift driver. He started at Costco as
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a forklift driver and he's now the
CEO. I've heard them both. I've
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heard those stories before that it's great. Yeah, talking about like just business
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and stuff. It's like, what
is the UAW doing? I Farley,
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the head of Ford, thinks that
the new UAW head is a little bit
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wacko. Well, he doesn't want
to make a deal because it's about him,
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doesn't he want to make a deal
at all? Right? Then over
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a month and in this economy and
what's going on, how does he think
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it's going to benefit not only his
own people, which is only cares about
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getting more money, but they're gonna
get laid off, Dave. If people
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don't have the money to buy the
cause because they're too expensive, start shutting
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him down. Yeah right, because
remember what they do when we get a
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recession, they shut down plants for
a period of time to catch up with
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the demand. Sure, and that
means when you shut down a plant,
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you can't pay people, so they
go on. That's all he's doing.
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He's sending these people like slaughtered Lamb
to eventually be on the unemployment line.
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Well and at the very least,
at the very best, maybe they break
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even four or five years down the
road financially, and in the meantime,
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he's building a name for himself.
It just does seem misguided at this point,
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not even close. This is what
I'm talking about. In today's world.
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No one knows how to compromise.
They don't want to make deals.
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They want to keep dividing. And
the people are following him out of getting
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more and more pissed off because they
like, wait a second, this wasn't
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supposed to be this long. There
was supposed to be this, We're supposed
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to get this big raise. Everybody
was compromising, and now I can't feed
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my family. Yeah. Absolutely,
they're going to run out of guess what
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union benefits. Speaking of lack of
compromise, the chaos continues in Congress,
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right, I know what. Jim
Jordan lost three votes. He's not on
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it anymore because he can't get the
majority vote. And then they just got
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no plan there. I gotta tell
you, as I watched this, they
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are giving clowns a bad name.
That's what's happening. Yeah, they're giving
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clowns a bad name. It's it's
disgusting that they didn't have a plan,
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and I don't know what it is. How do you how do you at
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that level decides to basically get rid
of somebody, fire somebody because you can
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have one vote and vote against him. You fire them, and you don't
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have enough votes your person, whoever
that person is, to get in.
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And what's just due to the Republican's
chances going forward? It's just it's troubling
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to me. A chance to a
joke. How do you have to pop
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like you've got a party you can't
govern? Yeah, it took McCarthy long
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enough to get voted in anyways,
and then now Jim Jordan canon, who
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else? Who are they going to
put up next? Like Max mac Gates,
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he's not going to get the majority
either. I don't understand what they're
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doing. We pay these guys to
work for US US as cumulative, which
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means on the right side, you
got conservatives, ultra can conservatives, and
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minor conservatives, which means we have
to all compromise. Yeah, okay,
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and we don't. I just think
it's it's really as all. I'm a
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lifelong Republicans, just a stain on
the party that that we can't. I'm
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saying, I'm politics politics, okay, because I think it's terrible. On
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the other side, how the Democrats
all get in line and have no opinions
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on their own. Yeah, like
when they were saying, just vote yes
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on the Act and we'll read it
later. They have no opinion at all.
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Yeah, except here's what they do. They haven't. They all get
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in line and have an agenda,
and the agenda gets passed because they all
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are in line right where the Republicans
are are a bunch of cats trying to
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you know, everybody's got don't have
a problem with with with with uh discussing
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things having opposite opinions, But I
don't. I don't. I dislike when
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human beings in that powered position can't
come up with a compromise. If they
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can't compromise their agenda is going to
be thrown. If you have five things
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you want, and you got five
things you want, I have five things
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I want. Let's all put one
thing on the table that we have to
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have. Boom, let's put a
second thing on the table. That's it.
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We got the six things. Maybe
you don't get three. You don't
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get three, I don't get three, but we all get we get a
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couple of things that we wanted.
The back to the market. The difference
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between the ten year and the two
year dean is narrowed to seventeen basis point.
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We're going to flat line. So
we're gonna flat line very soon.
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And we were we were one hundred
basis points difference between those two inverted just
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two months ago. So what does
that mean when it's flat lines good,
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that's good. That's a very good
thing. Uh. Normal yield curve is
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supposed to be good, and we
are working our well, well, that's
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not a normal yield curve. But
flat line is not the normal. That's
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step one. That's step one.
I mean, you gotta go flat line.
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If you're inverted one one hundred basis
points, you gotta go flat line.
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A normal, normal yield curve is
when the short rates are lower than
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long term rate normal and you get
and you get paid more of for holding
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onto the security. Correct, correct, and then that's where it appears.
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That's where we're working towards. And
that's a good thing. That's a good
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thing for the credit markets. That's
a good thing for the economy. And
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you would think a good thing for
the markets, Yeah, you would think.
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So bitcoin had a great week,
up ten percent. It's at the
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highest level since early August. Yeah, people use it as a fight to
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safety. Now. I think you're
talking about it. That's what's happening.
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I think it's like the digital goal. It's how I slicked that it again,
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even though it's vautile as it's really
volatile, it always is, always
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has been, it always has been. It's not for the fainthearted, that's
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for sure. You think people really
believe that, or they get the media
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gets it out there, the bitcoin
media gets it out there. Oh this
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is the safe thing, get onto
this. The dollars going down, this
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is you know, and all this
other stuff. I think that the propaganda
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00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:44.679
that's out there people believe because they
want to believe it. Well, the
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primary reason you buy something is because
you think it's going to become more valuable
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in the future. All right,
we got we got to take a break.
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We'll be right back. We do
all appreciate that you do. Listen
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to All Money Matter show. Thank
you say. It's only welcome back everybody.
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It's the money about the show.
We got Todd Gleke, Dylan Greenberg,
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Dave Sherwood and myself Dean Greenberg bringing
you our opinions, our ideas and
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the facts of what's going on in
this country and the markets. They're talking
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about Congress and we were in the
last segment you want a fun fact?
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Yeah, what's the fun You're a
fun fact. So why are Republicans elephants
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and Democrats donkeys? I don't know
what you ever thought about that. In
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eighteen seventy nine, get this.
Eighteen seventy nine, the most influential political
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cartoonist was a guy named Thomas Nast, and he worked for Harper's Weekly.
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He published a series of cartoons that
depicted Republicans as a big, lumbering creature
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with no direction. He drew an
elephant, and he depicted the Democrats as
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cantankerous, stubborn group. And he
drew a donkey. Even though both of
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these depictions of the parties are derogatory, they've stuck. Though it was actually
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a political cartoonist who was making fun
of them, they came up with the
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elephant and the donkey, and they
stick to this day. That's pretty funny.
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You want a not so fun fact? Yeah, you know, the
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US has four percent of the world's
population and seventy five percent of the world's
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lawyers. How scary is that.
That's why get this dean. Ninety four
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percent of all lawsuits filed in the
world are filed in the United States.
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People are trying to sue for anything, anything because all yours are all looking
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for work. Wait, way too
many retigious society and regulatory It's just gotten
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horrible litigious country because we have too
many lawyers, well society because people always
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are looking anything happens. Ooh did
you sue? Oo? Did you sue?
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Yeah? Default, isn't it.
You know, I've never started a
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lawsuit in my life. I've had
to defend some, but I've never started
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one. I've never seen and I
always have won everyone I've been in I've
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won. Yeah, because if you're
fighting back, it's because you believe you're
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right. Well, sure, and
if you're right, it's going to prevail.
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And people usually sue because they think
they have the advantage. And we've
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been watching raytheon stock pretty closely and
it did edge up a little bit last
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week despite the weak market, but
not what you'd expect. With the UH
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Patriot missile rebuilding cycle that they're entering. They're going to be building, you
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know, thousands and thousands of Patriot
missiles that they would not otherwise have been
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building. It can't be a bad
thing. So the iron dome, I
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don't know if you know this,
the iron dome in Israel, right,
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correct, when they say they have
to replenish it, they just have to
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replenish it with missiles. I don't
understand they have an iron dome because of
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the Patriot missile. Right. But
it's not like at first they make it
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sound like you got this dome that's
over that like it, you know,
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it's like the biasphere, you get
the dome that comes down. No,
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it's not like that. That'd be
a big dome attact anything coming in.
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So it's just the missiles shoot off
whatever they're in. And they saw you
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said that, I think you said
three thousand right the first day, and
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then tens of thousands of thousands of
them. And each time they shoot one
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off, a Patriot missile has to
get shot at it to bring it down.
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But and I guess I guess that
probably automatic. Right, they detect
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them and go yeah they yeah,
the heat the heat seekers and and they're
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about ninety seven percent accurate. So
some missiles do get through, but very
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few. But all of those thousands
and thousands of Patriot missiles that have been
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shot to protect Israel have to be
replaced exactly if you're going to have the
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Iron Dome. Yeah, if we
were in different week where the markets weren't
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bad as a whole, I'm sure
Rathiel would have gone up a little more.
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Seems like it everything was as down
as best sentiment around the markets and
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everything like that, so people weren't
jumping in. But no, that didn't
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go up. That don't see.
It didn't go up. And the Iron
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Dome, that's why we're talking about, right, right, didn't do any
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hockey. Martin didn't much. No, you're absolutely right. That whole area.
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You would think it would be really
flying, but it hasn't been.
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I'll tell you The one area that's
really getting trashed is is solar stocks.
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Yeah, they got hammered last It
was Friday, really Friday, was it
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was the big the big Yeah.
The et F T A N dropped a
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roughly seven percent as a whole,
right, but I mean you had one
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it's called solar Edge dropped over thirty
percent. YEP. It is because they
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had this terrible revenue for the third
quarter, gross margins, operating, the
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income all below expectations. And then
the CEO comes out and says fourth quarter
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is going to be even worse.
And I think a lot of that hill
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and too, is coming from Europe. It is. So it's unexpected cancelations
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and push outs, sudden unexpected cancelations, sudden substantial yep, pushouts of existing
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backlogs from the company's European distributors.
And guess what what is that telling you?
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Okay, people are saying, hey, this whole thing with you know,
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with with alternate power, great,
but right now that's on the back
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burner. What I need to pay
the bills. It's also the issue is
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it's slow installation rates. Was the
problem. So these people are like,
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screwt, We're not doing it's taking
too long, We're just gonna get out
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well in interest rates so high,
the numbers aren't working exactly like they used
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to work on interest rates. We're
half of That's what Zach was saying.
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The one the guy that we have
solar, he said, the the the
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the rates to that people were borrowing
with so much lower, so it made
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so much sense. So the cost
of money is so much higher. Yes,
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unless you're putting the whole thing out
in cash. It's it's it takes
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you takes more to get your return
on your equity, on your investment.
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I want to spend a minute Dean
talking about customer service. We we don't
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talk about it much. We believe
our customer services is as good as anyone's
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in the country. I can't really
say that it's better than anybody else because
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there are other people with good service. But this past week I had occasion
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to deal with a national bank here
in Tucson. I have a ninety year
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old client with an eighty four year
old wife. They don't have a cell
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phone, they don't have a computer. They have set up some of their
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payments on automatic payments, some of
their utilities and things. I helped him
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do that now they can't see who's
getting paid what. Long story short,
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the world's kind of passing them by, if you will. And so they
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00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:24.880
needed to get an appointment with this
bank and to get some they couldn't get
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anyone to return their calls. I
finally took it upon myself to get them
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an appointment. I got a hold
of someone at this bank, the manager
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of the branch actually, and he
said he would call them that day.
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The next day, I called my
client to see if he had called.
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He had not called, so I
called again. He said, yeah,
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yeah, I got tied up with
somebody. Finally, three days later he
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did call them and set an appointment
for them to come in next week.
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But I mean, that's no way
to run a business. You can't get
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a hold of the people in charge. I have left messages for him for
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two consecutive days. Uh, It's
it's ridiculous, it is. I mean,
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I always tell people if you email
me and I don't respond, the
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same day, I've died. It's
that simple. If I don't respond,
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should say that, because it could
be on the weekend and maybe your phone
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00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:19.599
wasn't working or something. I don't
think even on a weekend that I wouldn't
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respond to anything. We all try
to respond. Don't want to watch in
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the NFL. If I get an
email from somebody, oh absolutely, I
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00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:28.960
respond to say, even if it's
about Hey, I'll have somebody get in
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00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.679
touch with you on Monday. Thanks
for the like, thanks for the no.
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00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:35.239
I mean, this customer service it's
a it's a lost hour, it
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00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:37.920
isn't it. And it's so frustrating
when you get involved with customer service.
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00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:43.800
It's so poor. And on the
on the phone message for this national bank
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and I'm not going to name who
was, it says, are we are
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so proud of our excellent customer service? Are you serious? You have no
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customers. Maybe it's against their peers. Yeah, like the other national banks
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that have the big call centers and
everything. But I mean that's common.
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The clients hate the call centers.
I mean I hate call centers. When
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I have to call AT and T
or something like that, you just get
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00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:05.880
bounced around until hopefully somebody knows what
they're talking about. I wanted to talk
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to you can understand them. Yeah, okay. I there's nothing more frustrating
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00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:13.559
than when you try to call up
something and don't even know what you're really
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00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:17.119
trying to get and it goes out
and next thing, GE's somebody from India
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or Asia or something. And I
try to be very polite, I say,
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I'm sorry, I'm having trouble understanding
you can we slow this down or
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00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.639
is there somebody else I can speak
to? You know, so we get
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this right, I mean, you
know, and they're very good about it,
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but it's frustrating. But that's the
other thing that bothers me is those
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computerized answering service. Oh my god, as long as I'm at charge here,
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00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:47.599
I will never have a computerized answering
service, okay, because there's nothing
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00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:52.000
more frustrating, especially when you're involved
with your money, all right, getting
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sent to someone and then not even
having then and then having a go through
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00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.280
this whole thing. What's your extension, what's this? Hit this? Put
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00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:04.599
the name in, and then it
goes look through all that, and then
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you finally give a message, and
like you say, sometimes they don't even
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call you back for a couple of
days. Yeah. Yeah, it's just
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00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:15.400
it's very frustrating. Customer services are
lost. Art At Greenberg Financial, we
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promise you great customer service, period
and if not, you tell me.
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00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.599
Yeah, absolutely, you won't.
It won't. You won't be talenting anything
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because we have all of us concentrate
on the customer service. Things slip through
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00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:30.679
once in a blue mood. We're
not letting things. We fix it.
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00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:36.920
We don't want to allow things to
slip through. All right. So that
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new lows pandemic post pandemic lows for
Pfizer and modernas as this COVID thing is
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00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:49.800
just not really getting much traction,
They're back to being the stagnant or pfiserly
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00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:52.079
is back to being the stagnant value
stock. Yeah, c DC said.
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You know, when it was in
the fifties, we were saying on this
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00:45:54.599 --> 00:46:00.559
radio show, sell that stock value
socks are down this year. Okay,
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00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:04.159
a lot of them will even getting
killed, all right. I mean we
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00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:06.920
need to keep these tech stocks up. They have to have good earnings and
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00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:10.119
move higher if we want any chance
of this market staying Up's going to lead
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the way for sure. If it
doesn't lead the way, we're in trouble
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this last quarter. Busy week next
week for earning to Microsoft, Google,
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Amazon, Meta all next week yep. So that's gonna go along. Video
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it comes out afterwards after the big
one, right, that's usually about last.
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00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:30.360
Yeah, we're gonna get a let's
talk about in video because it's taken
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a big wash here because of the
of the White House obviously not allowing certain
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00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:39.760
ships now to be able to be
sold to China because they don't want their
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military to have the artificial intelligence of
what our military is. And I think
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we're all in on that. Yeah, I don't have a problem with that.
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But what people don't realize is that
in the video also knows this,
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and it won't take them very long
to find the chip that meets the the
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00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:00.880
the the the level that will let
them sell it to China. Not only
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00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:04.559
that, but in the short term
they have so much demand they can't even
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00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.920
know around the world, everybody else
around the world, whatever was going to
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00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:09.840
China, everybody else is doing it. The demand is off the charts right
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00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:15.760
now until twenty twenty five, they
are going to keep beating. Earnings dropped
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from four hundred five hundred down to
four hundred, right close to four hundreds.
610
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:21.880
And the people that were at seven
fifty, so they went to six
611
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.199
seventy five on the price, and
they went from six fifty to six twenty
612
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:28.199
five. They went the lowest I
saw with City Bank said, oh I
613
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:30.639
think that I don't think we can
hit over six hundred. So my estimate
614
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:35.320
now is five seventy five. Yeah, and it's currently four ten. Yeah.
615
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:38.239
There you go. That's that's the
lowest lowest one out there. Right,
616
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all right, we got to take
a short break, will be right
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back. Thank you for listening.
Say it's only a name. Welcome back
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00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:58.280
everybody for the second now with the
Money Matter Show, we got Dylan,
619
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:01.440
Todd, Dave, and myself,
and then we also have a guest on
620
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:07.719
that is going to talk about the
federal employee program that we're doing and the
621
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:12.199
workshop very very important. Dylan,
you can give a little bit more.
622
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:15.280
Yeah, So this next segment after
this one, it's gonna be Sean McCoy
623
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:17.719
from Federal Employee Benefit Advocates is going
to come on and we're going to talk
624
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.280
to him about the upcoming workshop that
we're hosting on December thirteenth over at the
625
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:27.880
Tucson Association Realtors. It's for federal
employees, whether they're getting ready to retire
626
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.719
in the next year, ten years, or they're starting trying to get interested
627
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:35.039
in what's going on with their retirement
plan because I mean, if you're a
628
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:37.960
federal employee, you know that you're
having a unique retirement plan, whether it's
629
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the pension, the FACILLY, the
FEHB, all of that different stuff goes
630
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:46.559
into us. So that's why we
hold a special seminar workshop for federal employees
631
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because we know there's a lot that
goes into it and we want you to
632
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:52.840
be ready for retirement. So it's
free to go. You can actually probably
633
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:57.000
get a pay day off for most
departments. I think there's only been one
634
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:00.920
I remember that didn't allow us that
form S F one eighty two. If
635
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:04.840
your department offers it, then you'll
get to pay a day off. So
636
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if you're interested in your federal employee, give us a call at five two
637
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zero five four four four nine zero
nine and we'll be happy to sign you
638
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:14.920
up for it. Like I said, it's free. It's just an educational
639
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:16.519
workshop, will provide launch everything like
that. It's a great day, a
640
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:20.960
lot of information to learn. But
Sean McCoy will be going into more depth
641
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:24.000
this next segment about what we're going
to go over that day. So what
642
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:29.079
a great, great opportunity. Yeah, he's been doing it for years.
643
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:30.320
Obviously he'll go more into it.
But he's been doing it for years.
644
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.679
He's helped thousands of different federal employees
done this all over the country. It's
645
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.519
a great thing to do. But
since we're starting the next hour, I
646
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:38.760
want to go back to the markets. We got the dial that was down
647
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:42.360
one and a half percent for the
week. The S and P five hundred
648
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.840
was down two point four for the
week, NASDAK was down three point two
649
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:49.760
percent, and then Russell two thousand
was down two point two percent. Interestingly
650
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.320
enough, the equal weighted SMP five
hundred, which we've been harping on a
651
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:55.400
lot more this year, was down
exactly two point four percent as well.
652
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:59.880
And definitely five hundreds is down.
Dollar is down for the year, the
653
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:02.400
equalated S and P five hundred is
down for the three percent for the year.
654
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Russell two thousands down the most for
the year, which is down four
655
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and a half percent. I mean, the Nasdaq's twelve percent off the high
656
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of the year was but still at
twenty four percent because tech has been riding
657
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it. We said during the first
hour it's not unusual for September and October
658
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to be week yep in November,
December, January to be the strongest three
659
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months of the year. Uh,
there have been times when December has been
660
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a nightmare, but generally it's a
good month. November is generally a good
661
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month. And so hopefully we can
get through the next what seven business days
662
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I think it is, or eight
seven or eight business days and in October
663
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without any kind of major problem where
you geteah, pretty much like a full
664
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week next week or this coming week, and then we got like one day,
665
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well I think it's a couple of
days, yeah, two days,
666
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yeah, and the next week and
I don't know the Christmas high y'all noticed,
667
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.559
But we had an interesting bitcoin rally
this week. We talked about We
668
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:54.400
talked about that earlier. Yeah,
did did you have any insight into that?
669
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Well, I think the the buzz, the hype around next year having
670
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which I've talked about before. I
won't go into detail, but the havening
671
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:07.239
of twenty four I think it's starting
to get real. Not only you have
672
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:09.719
the spot ETF, the whispers.
There was this fake article that happened on
673
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:14.159
Monday that said black Rock was approved
by the SEC for the spot ETF.
674
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:17.320
It turned out to be complete bogus, but bitcoin had a surge to twenty
675
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:22.239
eight thousand, gave it all back
up in ten minutes, but then that
676
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:24.039
started the rally for the week,
and now we're back up to thirty thousand.
677
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:28.440
So I do think there's some hype
being built in there. And when
678
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:31.760
you see bitcoin up nine percent on
a week when the markets NASDAK itself was
679
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:36.320
down three percent. Bitcoin's the risky
asset. It shouldn't be up that,
680
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:39.199
but they're calling it. On Friday, there's even a headline that said they're
681
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:42.639
going for the safety of it,
and I was like, I don't think
682
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.079
bitcoin's got safety. Yeah, I
think those are talking heads. That's what
683
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.840
we talked about. Yeah, maybe
they're just a bitcoin media coming out and
684
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:52.199
saying it's a safe haven like gold, like digital gold. Right it's just
685
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:53.920
well, I think obviously not.
We see that with gold right now.
686
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:58.039
I mean gold had the last two
weeks, it's just taken off and everyone
687
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:00.599
has the idea of it's a safe
haven. But at the end of the
688
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:02.440
day, I mean, how safe
is it. We've seen the performance,
689
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:07.760
we know the actual So I mean
we know talking heads they love to find
690
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:12.320
reasons that aren't really the reason.
Yeah, we do get questions sent to
691
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:15.119
us at contact at Greenberg Financial dot
com. We do, and Sebastian has
692
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:19.760
those questions, what do you go
on to I got a couple this week?
693
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:22.920
How are we doing? Guys doing
well? You don't care give us
694
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.800
a question. That's your answer every
time, Dave, it's just call me
695
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:29.480
courtesy to ask. You could just
be nice, you know what, You're
696
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:31.599
right, I don't care. Here's
the question. Somebody told me last year
697
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:34.440
would have given up for lent,
and I said, I'm giving up being
698
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.480
nice. Get to work now.
It's been three hundred and sixty five days.
699
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:40.639
I'm gonna give it up again.
You liked it so much that he
700
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:44.599
just gave it up. Yeah,
I gat get over it all right.
701
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:46.320
So a little bit of a longer
question this time around. This one comes
702
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:50.559
in from Carl. He says,
good morning. I often hear you refer
703
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:52.519
to the S and P five hundred
as an indicator of what's going on in
704
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:57.199
the market, while I always have
been leaning towards the Dow, which do
705
00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:00.039
you think is more of a more
realistic indocation of what is going on in
706
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:04.840
the marketplace? So go ahead,
dot Yeah, I mean so the Dow
707
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:07.480
is always the most talked about one. It's the biggest number. It seems
708
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:09.119
like it's always the big number on
the TV shows that you're the oldest,
709
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:14.199
it's the oldest as well. Really, what the Dow is is thirty stocks
710
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.480
that a committee picks and they waited
so if they don't think like and they
711
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:20.800
can switch it out whenever they want, Like they just switched out what was
712
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:24.920
it they switched out something for Walgo
Greens got the company that kicked out maybe
713
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:29.400
it was g And they do that
periodically every few years. They kick them
714
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:30.960
out and then because they're not performing, and if they kick them out,
715
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:34.880
they tend to do better after.
That's truly, if you get it and
716
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:37.920
it's short the newest stock that's been
added, you generally do. Really it's
717
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.800
really interesting. Yeah, but so
it's only thirty stocks and it's picked by
718
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:44.519
a committee. It's not market cap, it's not how big the company is,
719
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:46.920
how well the company it does.
The S and P five hundred is
720
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:52.039
five hundred company, five hundred and
four companies. Yeah, they're exactly.
721
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:54.679
Yeah, there's some stocks have two
classes. Yeah, but it's like Google
722
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:59.760
Google. Yeah, so it's five
hundred companies of the largest companies in the
723
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:02.320
in the world that trade on the
New York Socks, Chans and all that,
724
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:07.400
and that's how it's weighted, So
it's five hundred largest companies, and
725
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:13.519
it's a bigger diversification and adds more
real life aspect of what's going on,
726
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:16.280
not just thirty stocks that somebody's picking. And it is market cap weighted,
727
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:21.400
however, so you can get it
can get skewed like it is this year
728
00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:25.719
where you have seven stocks, the
notorious ones we've always talked about, the
729
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:30.039
Metas and the Amazons and the Apples
of the world that are skewing the index.
730
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:35.599
And probably if you're wanting to see
how the market is doing, how
731
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:42.800
your portfolio is doing, that equal
weighted SMP five hundred symbol RSP is probably
732
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:46.679
the best single indicator of how the
overall market is doing. And that's why
733
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:52.320
this year seems it's just fabricated because
SMP five hundred is up ten percent,
734
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:57.239
the RSP is down three percent.
But what you see on CNBC and Fox
735
00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.599
News and CNN, whatever you're watching
is the S and P five hundred.
736
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:04.599
So you're looking at your account saying, why am I not up ten percent?
737
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:07.440
But most of the time you're not
even one hundred percent In equities,
738
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:09.760
which is you'd have to be to
be an SMP five ten percent. But
739
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:13.440
also I mean equal way, it's
down three percent of most companies unless you
740
00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:15.599
pick those seven companies, not gonna
be up. I left a little bit
741
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:19.199
of Carl's question now I want to
give them some credit, because he was
742
00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:22.360
onto something here. He says,
I've noticed the regardless of which index I
743
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.840
choose, it seems the most most
of the movements is always based on some
744
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:30.320
on the same alphabet Tesla Meta,
those types of companies. So in my
745
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.480
view, he says, this is
a bad thing. More so since those
746
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:36.280
big four are in many ways a
monopoly. I would think that a true
747
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:39.320
bull market would be driven by small
cap outfits, as they would reflect a
748
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:44.880
more consistent consumer based growth pattern.
This is what made me wonder just how
749
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:49.360
the real economy is portrayed within these
markets. I think the RSP that they
750
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.239
equal, waited s and P five
hundred is where you want to look.
751
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:55.239
The real economy is not going to
be the small cap stocks. Those are
752
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:59.880
the emerging markets, those are the
new companies. That's not the real economy.
753
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:05.960
The real economy are the five hundred
largest stocks in this country equally waited.
754
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:08.920
Okay. Also, there's some fun
facts about the Dow Jones that was
755
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:15.079
created by Charles Dwell who was a
journalist and he started was one of the
756
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:17.800
ones that created the Wall Street Journal. And it started with twelve stocks.
757
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:22.800
That was it twelve initially it was
initially twelve. Can you guess the year
758
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:29.360
nineteen twenty six? No, nineteen
thirty one? Wrong, forty three wrong?
759
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:34.840
Centuries eighteen hundreds, wow, eighteen
ninety six containing twelve stocks, expanded
760
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:37.320
in thirty stocks in nineteen twenty eight, and that's the numbers still making take
761
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:43.679
a day. But the oldest dallastock
ever and it's no longer in it.
762
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:51.519
Oh this mean how the oldest stock
that was in the Dow Ge Yeah.
763
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:53.599
GE started in eighteen ninety six,
ended in twenty eighteen. Yeah, that
764
00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:57.320
was amazing. When they removed G, that was like a heck of a
765
00:56:57.400 --> 00:57:00.320
day for those of us who have
been around a while, like really taking
766
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:04.360
GE the down court. Since then, G's taken off and they replaced it
767
00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:06.880
with Walgreens, which is falling apart. That was one of the things I
768
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:10.360
was shocked by was GE's top five
performer sh it up with Meta in the
769
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:14.639
video. I'm just like, because
they broke off their companies and they started,
770
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:16.360
they did a lot better with that
they did, but they also reverse
771
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:22.599
split, and generally reverse split is
a kiss. When a stock reverse splits,
772
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:28.239
you want out fast. And when
Ge reverse split, I sold all
773
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:31.320
of our GE and it promptly went
down about twenty percent, and I felt
774
00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:35.480
like a genius. And now it's
doubled. That seems like one of the
775
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:38.679
only instances that happened. It is
it's so rarely, so rare reverse split
776
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:40.880
is because it's for a reason.
Yeah, I was feeling pretty good there
777
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:45.960
for a while. Hey, you
got another question for us? I do
778
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:47.639
have another one that came in from
Wayne, he asked. He says,
779
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:51.599
Hello, I have two children headed
off to college within the next five years.
780
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:54.760
I'm ready to start saving for their
education. What are some effective investment
781
00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:59.840
options to help cover their tuition costs. I'm not really sure if he's referring
782
00:57:59.880 --> 00:58:05.440
to investment vehicles or what type of
plan I suppose, but yeah, I
783
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.679
mean it's a it's a loaded question
because it comes down to your preferences as
784
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:12.360
a parent. I mean, if
you have something where you're you want a
785
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:15.639
lot of control, you have.
You have a lot of options. You
786
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:17.079
have utmas, you have ugmas,
you have five twenty nine plans, you
787
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:21.800
have corvidels to essays, and then
you can just do individual accounts. You
788
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.199
can open up a roth IRA.
Right. There's so many points, and
789
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:28.559
that's why I won't even start to
try to answer that question. It comes
790
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:30.719
down to the financial plan. I
mean, if you're going to be doing
791
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:35.079
something on a multi year basis of
paying out money and draining assets, it
792
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:39.400
needs to be done with a financial
plan, or you're really just I mean,
793
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:44.239
I don't know what the word is. I think that's a good answer,
794
00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:49.280
Todd. It really is individualized.
If you wanted to give the child
795
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:52.280
a large sum of money, you'd
have to go five twenty nine. Right.
796
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:54.960
If you want to give the child
a custodial account where they're going to
797
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:59.480
pay all the taxes, you do
uniform trust to minors. If you would
798
00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:04.119
like to have total control over it
in case your child doesn't turn out to
799
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:07.199
be, you know, the next
rocket scientist, then you would do a
800
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:12.199
joint account, just title a college
account, or ROTH in your own name.
801
00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:14.039
You could do a ROTH in your
own name. Sure, So there's
802
00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:17.000
lots of options. And that's where
the financial plan comes in to play.
803
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:21.400
Hey, uh, Tesla, what
a week for Tesla? Right? I
804
00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:27.800
was I was hiking on a week
ago yesterday and the guy asked me what
805
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:31.599
I thought about Tesla and I said
the car because I was wearing a Tesla
806
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:35.159
T shirt. And I said you
mean the car and he goes, no,
807
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:37.639
it's dock. I said, sell
it. I'm feeling pretty good about
808
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:40.920
that advice right now, and I'm
thinking that when I go to Tomamark the
809
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:44.239
next time, if I see him, he'll be wanting to know what else
810
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:45.639
I like. Well, you felt
pretty good about G two, So that's
811
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:49.519
any indication? Good point, gott
to go buy points. Tesla did tank
812
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:53.199
last week. It tanks ten percent
lower on Thursday morning after reporting the disappointing
813
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:58.559
quarter. This is the interesting part. At ten percent decline in operating margins
814
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:04.559
and very cautious. Elon Musk was
concerned about the economy. He's saying that
815
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:07.920
the cyber truck will probably take a
year to eighteen months to become profitable.
816
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:15.079
If ever, you know the he's
lowering prices because he's concerned about affordability.
817
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:19.360
They're losing market share, which is
which you expect right. For a long
818
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:22.920
time, they were the only horse
in the race. Now there's a lot
819
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:25.360
of them. You drive around town
and look at the Cloud license plates.
820
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:30.679
They're not all Tesla's. There's as
I saw BMW the other day and it
821
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:37.000
wasn't that that little BMW came out
with an electric vehicle a few years back.
822
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:39.079
That's kind of a funky looking thing. It's kind of almost square,
823
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:45.199
doesn't really look like a BMW.
This was actually a BMW looking BMW Loo
824
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:50.400
look good and had the Cloud license
plate on it. I did see Elucid
825
01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:53.079
car last weekend. Lucid. Yeah, it was actually a cooler looking than
826
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:55.559
the original one. I don't know
if it's because it was just all white,
827
01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:58.719
but it looked a lot better than
the original one we talked about.
828
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:01.599
Yeah, the ones i've seen are
kind of in a gold or a brown.
829
01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:06.320
Is that weyan They only have a
couple of colors. It actually pretty
830
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:07.599
cool and it was white. It
was all white. Yeah. I think
831
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:12.960
it's time for a trip to the
EV Garage and the EV Garage. The
832
01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:15.320
EV Garage, that's a good segue, right, the EV Garage. This
833
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:20.719
week we're going to talk about the
Big Lie what's that. The real big
834
01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:25.400
lie, The real big lie is
range range numbers. They represent the range
835
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:29.599
you can get. When you see
an advertised range on an electric vehicle,
836
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:32.760
you're seeing the range that you get
in the perfect world in which none of
837
01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:38.320
us live. And lithium ion battery
appears to have a maximum range of about
838
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:43.000
three hundred miles in that perfect world. And by perfect world, I mean
839
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:46.119
flat ground, seventy degree weather,
sixty five miles. Nobody drives like that,
840
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:51.039
nobody. The largest car company in
the world is Toyota, and they've
841
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:53.559
been focusing on the hybrid. But
back in April, a new CEO took
842
01:01:53.559 --> 01:02:00.480
the range range and changed the direction
of Toyota to electric. About ten days
843
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:05.880
ago, toyotastruck a deal with Japanese
oil company and I'm going to murder this.
844
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:15.519
I demutsu Kosin to mass produce ultra
high range electric vehicle solid state batteries.
845
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:19.199
Now, let them them solid state
batteries that have a range of nearly
846
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:24.760
one thousand miles and can charge in
ten minutes. The technology has been in
847
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:28.920
development with at this oil company since
two thousand and one. Because they could
848
01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:31.519
see the riding on the wall.
There's going to be decreasing demand for oil.
849
01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:36.119
So how about we get involved in
the battery business that helps to offset
850
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:38.199
the oil. That doesn't make any
sense. What you mean, how could
851
01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:40.960
you be in two thousand and one
thinking we're going to be using decreasing demand
852
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:45.960
of oil when population is increasing.
No, two thousand and one being the
853
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:50.400
increase in the in electric vehicles.
They can see the electric vehicles were good,
854
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:52.400
but not that we're going to use
less oil. No, we will
855
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:57.079
use less oil. That's how we
want it. We have a larger population
856
01:02:57.119 --> 01:02:59.559
than we did in two thousand and
one. If you if you were to
857
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:02.719
have a fifteen or twenty million electric
vehicles, you're going to use less oil
858
01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:07.199
in maybe just America, we're talking
about the world. Yeah, I'm talking
859
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:09.639
exactly no, because the people in
the world are going to use actual oil
860
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:14.960
now. Anyway, this if you
can get a electric vehicle that can go
861
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:20.679
one thousand miles and charge in ten
minutes, you'd there'd never be a reason
862
01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:23.159
to own a gasoline powered car again
in your life. As a game changer.
863
01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:29.519
Here's the problem. The mass production
is hard with solid state batteries.
864
01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:32.239
They think they've got it figured out, but it's probably not going to be
865
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:37.159
available for retail clients for five years. Do you know if graph fight goes
866
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:39.320
into those solid state batteries, I
don't. I know lithium does. Okay.
867
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:42.840
The only reason I ask is because
I saw a report today that said
868
01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:45.599
China has released plans to restrict these
exports of graph Fight, a crucial mineral
869
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:51.960
for the manufacturing process of these batteries
within these electric vehicles. This came in
870
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:55.400
just a few days after United States
imposed additional limits on the kinds of semiconductors
871
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:01.480
that American companies can sell to these
Chinese two interesting. Yeah, but at
872
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:04.079
the end of the day, I
mean CNBC talked about it too. House
873
01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:08.840
China going to enforce that. There's
a lot of people that they don't really
874
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:14.679
know how they could. So it's
made just for enforce the restrictions I mean
875
01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:18.000
graphite, Yeah, I mean just
because you say you're not supposed to.
876
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:20.679
We know what, China will say
a lot of things and never actually do
877
01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:24.960
it. So it might just be
a tip for tap on a you know,
878
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:28.239
because all they care about is,
you know, perception. So if
879
01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:30.840
it's on their China state media that
we're fighting back, you know, I
880
01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:34.039
mean, they they're coming after US
on our chips, so the US Chip
881
01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:39.280
Act, which we talked about this
week, we did, But again,
882
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:42.559
I think it's it's one of those
things that the China's all about perception,
883
01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:47.960
the like the four point nine percent
GDP growth, not only that, or
884
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.400
like the twelve hundred people that got
COVID out of the two billion that live
885
01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:56.559
there. Yes, yes, and
again we've got Moderna and Fighter hitting new
886
01:04:56.599 --> 01:05:02.360
fifty or new post pandemic lows because
of the lack of a demand at this
887
01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:06.199
point. Now it is mid October, right, so it's not we're not
888
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:11.880
yet into the season where you'd expect
it to really ramp up. But Pfizer
889
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:16.440
was saying they expect twenty five percent
of American people to get the new vaccine,
890
01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:21.079
and I'm not seeing that happening,
and apparently others aren't either, which
891
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:28.480
is why the stock of Walgreens,
CBS, Moderna, Pfizer are all tanking.
892
01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:30.480
Yeah. No, there's no way
that twenty five percent. You just
893
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:33.280
can't imagine. It's hard. It's
hard to make, especially when I hear
894
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:36.400
the people who have had the five
vaccines and they're saying, how many vaccines
895
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:40.400
do I need? When those people
start saying that, I mean, how
896
01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:43.960
how much demand is there left?
Well, I think you know I have
897
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:46.280
I've had three vaccines. I think
there's been that, there's been four,
898
01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:49.440
and now a fifth one. I
lost track. I don't know. I
899
01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:53.800
know I know people who have had
five. Yeah, I think you forget
900
01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:57.199
one guy in India. Member he
had thirty. The one guy in India
901
01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:01.840
had thirty and has never felt better
and his back pain has gone away.
902
01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:08.840
Really Okay, so this is the
new uh uh no placebo effect? Yeah,
903
01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:12.880
I did that. That couldn't possible
to lose weight too. Yeah,
904
01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:15.440
I'm thinking at this point, I
know, I know I've had three vaccines.
905
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:18.800
I know I've had COVID twice,
probably had it four or five times,
906
01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:23.639
right, And along with three vaccines, I'm thinking I kind of probably
907
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:27.039
built up some kind of an immunity
here. Nope, you know, I
908
01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:30.239
think it's important though. Let's let's
talk about China again though, because what
909
01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:33.480
what's going on in Macau is really
interesting. They said that the traffic is
910
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:39.039
just about normal for for domestic traffic, and they're they're still down about twenty
911
01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:44.800
five percent from visitors from pre pandemic
levels. But if that gets back.
912
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:47.639
I mean, you're going to see
people like I believe when it has a
913
01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:55.039
lot of exposure, right, and
then Las Vegas Sands that company, so
914
01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:58.519
that's an interesting thing. We see
Nike getting a bid over the last couple
915
01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:01.280
of weeks, which there's n about
them, as well as Starbucks having a
916
01:07:01.280 --> 01:07:04.800
lot of their business in China and
that was kind of weighing on those stocks.
917
01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:08.079
And now we've seen a little bit
of a change there. So we're
918
01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:12.039
seeing some better sentiment coming out of
China. And with their rate cuts,
919
01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:15.519
they actually they did not rate cut
just over the over last night. They
920
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:19.679
could have, but they didn't,
so it's showing some you know, robustness
921
01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:26.360
there. Las Vegas Sands reported good
results last week and good results in Vegas
922
01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:30.679
and good results in Macau which helped
boost WIN a little bit. But Win
923
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:32.480
is way down. It is down
again. It was over one hundred again
924
01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:34.519
and now it's back to eighty seven. It was over one hundred and ten.
925
01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:39.159
Yeah, over one hundred and ten
level. Now it's down what ninety
926
01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:43.159
is in the eighties. Eight in
the eighties now, I mean, and
927
01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:48.000
going back to that, if Macau
can get his normal traffic, Las Vegas
928
01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:51.719
sands Win. The other six casinos
that are in there, they have a
929
01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:55.639
stronghold on that area. They're not
allowed. No other casinos allowed to go
930
01:07:55.679 --> 01:07:59.000
in there for another seven eight years. Yeah, so you can just get
931
01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:01.960
back to normal, it'll help win
a lot. Yeah. I wonder if
932
01:08:02.039 --> 01:08:06.119
MGM has any exposure to China.
They do. Yeah, I think it's
933
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:11.840
three, three or four US companies
have exposure there and then a couple of
934
01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:15.960
Chinese ones. We talked about how
Walgreens and CBS have been struggling to right
935
01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:19.800
aid, which is along struggling pharmacy
chain. I went ahead and filed for
936
01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:27.920
bankruptcy Sunday because of guess what flowing
COVID demand, rising debt, and lowsuits
937
01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:31.439
related to the opioid crisis. That's
a deadly combination, isn't it. Yeah.
938
01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:34.880
I mean, have you talked about
Netflix and we did not? Let's
939
01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:39.000
go ahead and talk. I mean, Netflix was an incredible earnings report.
940
01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:43.119
It was just doing terrible as a
stock leading up to earnings, and I
941
01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:45.199
couldn't figure out why it just kept
selling off and selling off, and then
942
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:49.319
boom, earnings come out and I
think it was up fifteen percent the next
943
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:53.920
day, held on Friday, even
when the markets were down at Held and
944
01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:58.479
it wasn't really the earnings report so
much as the subscriber number. The password
945
01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:01.960
crackdown, right, and that's the
they are attributing that to the password crackdown,
946
01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.279
which started just a few months ago. Right, yeah, I'm like,
947
01:09:05.319 --> 01:09:09.239
and now they're back to growth.
I think it was a year ago
948
01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:12.399
they were saying they lost two hundred
thousand subscribers, which actually turned out to
949
01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:15.279
be a million subscribers. So they're
on the decline because the market's getting more
950
01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:18.399
saturated and they stop growing as much. But now they're looking at as more
951
01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:23.079
growth. Also, they're looking into
getting to live sports. Yeah, that'd
952
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:26.600
be very interesting. They're starting with
golf and they're looking to do that,
953
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:28.880
so it's going to be open up
a whole new thing. I know they've
954
01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:30.279
been trying to get into gaming as
well. I don't know where they stand
955
01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:33.520
on it, but they're trying to
get into different avenues because they know their
956
01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:38.279
content can only be so much their
business when every other company is doing the
957
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:41.800
same. It's like anything in this
streaming world, it's all about subscriber growth,
958
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:45.600
and subscriber growth that's a good thing, right, Hey, lithium stocks
959
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:49.159
plunged on Wednesday. We've got a
client that was wanting to buy lithium stocks
960
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:53.640
when we're looking at it. Bank
of America downgraded the group on Wednesday,
961
01:09:53.680 --> 01:10:00.239
saying increased production of lithium has brought
the market from shortages to sufficient supplies and
962
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:03.399
predicts it in twenty twenty four and
twenty twenty five there's going to be oversupply
963
01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:09.760
more lithium then we can possibly use
again, not due to a decrease in
964
01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:15.399
demand for lithium, but an increase
in supply. Now do you look at
965
01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:17.520
me quizically, Yeah, because I
just don't understand how. I mean,
966
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:20.399
if you have all these evs getting
built out, how do you not have
967
01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:27.199
the demand No to the demand for
lithium, the production the production is now
968
01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:31.199
paced to demand. So we're producing
more of something more more lithium than we
969
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:34.479
need, more lithium than we need, kind of like because the vacue,
970
01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:38.880
right, Because I mean, lithium
has such a big CO two penalty to
971
01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:41.840
mine that out of the ground.
So if we're just doing it for no
972
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:45.439
reason, I mean, that's that's
reason. No. Yeah, he's saying
973
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:47.359
because with all the Coe two it
takes to mine it. If you're over
974
01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:49.920
mining, why do you need to
keep over mining? No, No,
975
01:10:50.119 --> 01:10:53.880
that's what that's why the price is
plumbing. And of course what will happen
976
01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:57.720
when the price plumbers is you'll stop
mining. They'll pull back. They just
977
01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:00.800
have to the part of it.
Airline kinds they at Airline ETF hit a
978
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:06.039
new fifty two weeks low after disappointing
quarterly results from United in American and we
979
01:11:06.039 --> 01:11:09.880
can all guess what that is,
right, higher oil prices. Yeah,
980
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:14.279
that's it doesn't take a genius.
That one doesn't take a genius to figure
981
01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:17.600
out. It's a it's a difficult
time to be trying to run an airline.
982
01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:23.119
Uh, if you've got a travel
starting to taper off a bit,
983
01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:29.000
not only because the seasonality, but
because of the of everyone's been everywhere they
984
01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:31.319
want to go, right and since
the pandemic. But then you put oil
985
01:11:31.359 --> 01:11:34.079
prices into that. We are going
into the holiday season, though, and
986
01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:36.840
people are going to travel regardless of
prices. It will because they want to
987
01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:42.079
in a sense they will. So
first quarter next the should have better results.
988
01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:45.359
You think Peloton down fifty percent in
the last ninety days, So guess
989
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:49.319
what bank of America decided this is
a good place to downgrade the stock.
990
01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:54.880
Funny how they are. I was
like, are you kidding me? You
991
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:57.880
had me in this stock and I've
lost fifty percent of my money and I
992
01:11:57.960 --> 01:12:01.199
saying, you know what, get
out out. It's not good. Anyway,
993
01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:04.199
we appreciate your joining us on this
Sunday morning. We have fun bringing
994
01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:09.840
you to the show. We will
be back with the next segment is the
995
01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:14.520
Fed correct We got We got Sean
McCoy on, and then we'll have John,
996
01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:26.199
our lawyer in and we'll talk to
you right after Spreak says welcome back.
997
01:12:26.239 --> 01:12:28.840
You're listening to the Money Matter Show. I'm Dylan Greenberg. I'm here
998
01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:30.800
with Todd Glick and we have a
special guest on the radio show today.
999
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:36.600
As you might know out here,
we are hosting a Federal Retirement Benefit Seminar
1000
01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:41.960
workshop on December thirteenth O. We're
at the Tucson Association Realtors and we have
1001
01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:45.520
a special speaker that's coming out actually
that day to host the entire Seminar's name
1002
01:12:45.560 --> 01:12:49.880
is Sean McCoy. He is with
Federal Employee Benefit Advocates and they'll be flying
1003
01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:55.720
in that day talking everything retirement for
federals. We all know that it's very
1004
01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:59.279
specialized, very unique. So he's
been doing it for years, He's talked
1005
01:12:59.319 --> 01:13:01.319
thousands of different and federal employees throughout
the years. I'm going to let him
1006
01:13:01.359 --> 01:13:03.920
go into more detail about what he's
done, how long has he been in
1007
01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:08.520
it. So welcome Sean, thank
you for coming on our show. Well,
1008
01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:10.800
thanks Gas, I'm glad to be
here. Looking forward to making the
1009
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:15.119
trip out to Tucson here in December. The weather hopefully will be nice and
1010
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:19.359
we'll have a good interaction with the
folks that attend. Yeah, we're really
1011
01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:23.399
looking forward to it. The things
that we find so much is that the
1012
01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:30.600
unique and complex factors that come into
play for a federal employee's retirement is almost
1013
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:34.720
it's not talked about enough. And
that's where people like you come in because
1014
01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:39.319
you're really the expert. So talk
a little bit about how you've gotten that
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expert status through the years, how
you know everything you know about the retirement
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benefits, because it's such a complex
space to talk about. How you got
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into the business too and why and
you're reasoning behind everything absolutely well, guys,
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as you alluded to the federal space
for employee benefits is very different than
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what you see in ARISKA base plans, which the non federal space. And
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the biggest challenge that I found when
I first got into it was that there's
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just not a lot of information out
there generally that's in a comprehensive situation.
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Now, my background is I've got
about thirty six years of experience in and
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around the financial services industry, and
for the last fourteen years I've been doing
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federal employee benefit briefings. I probably
spoke to around thirty five thousand suberal employees
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and probably delivered somewhere in the excess
of about fourteen hundred total employee benefits seminars.
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01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:34.920
So over the years, what I've
been able to do is compile information
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through a variety of sources and put
them into a format I think is easy
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01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:44.840
to understand and it helps people to
identify certain key points that they need to
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01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:47.600
pay attention to based on whether they're
in the early, mid or late career.
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01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:53.159
I was a former securities registered representative. I gave all those licenses up
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01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:57.079
when I started doing that, and
so now my company, Federal Employee Benefits
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01:14:57.079 --> 01:15:00.319
Advocates. We are an educational company. And we are advocates for federal employees
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01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:04.039
to make sure that they have the
knowledge that they need and the tools and
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01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:09.560
the resources available to help them plan
for their family while they're working and then
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01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:13.680
also to plan hopefully to have a
comfortable retirement. Yeah, and we're super
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01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:17.840
excited to have you, like we
said on December thirteenth, because by working
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01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:24.439
together, you have a very unique
Federal Workshop booklet that you actually take each
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01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:28.880
attendee through and so maybe spend a
little bit of time of what kind of
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01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:33.199
lady expectations for what to expect at
the seminar, what are the things that
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01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:36.920
they're going to be supplied, and
how it's going to help them prepare for
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01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:43.439
retirement. Well, the way that
the briefing is designed is it's designed to
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01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:48.880
address first the issues regarding retirement and
so for the first employees as well as
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01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:54.119
the csrs, if any of those
attend. If any of those employees attend,
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01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:59.840
primarily for the FIRS, you have
three different sources of income coming in
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01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:03.119
your retirement. Which is your retirement
annuity that the federal government provides to you
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01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:09.079
if you meet the criteria, Social
Security, which is the benefit that all
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01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:12.640
Americans are available to if they pay
into the system and have enough orders to
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01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:15.319
qualify. And then the final thing, which is the Thrift Savings Plan,
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01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:20.880
which is kind of a unique defined
contribution program in the various investment options that
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01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:25.439
it has. And there's been a
lot of exciting things that have happened with
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01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:29.840
the TSP in the last several years. But we'll go through those retirement benefits
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01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:32.000
first, and then we'll go into
what we call the risk management, which
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01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:38.399
we think such as your federal employees
through life insurance, health insurance, the
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01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:42.399
long term care. We won't go
into that a lot, we'll talk about
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01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:45.640
it, and then we'll talk about
the various disability benefits. So each participant
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01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:50.880
will receive a high quality workbook.
There'll be some exercises that we take people
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through to help them kind of navigate
where their benefits are and some things that
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they can expect. And then we
will have ample time for questions for the
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01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:03.760
individuals as well, as I believe
you gentlemen, will be offering a chance
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01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:09.319
to have the folks sit down with
you afterwards and answer some individual questions.
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01:17:09.359 --> 01:17:12.640
So that's what they can expect from
the program. And as I said,
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each participant will get a booklet that'll
help them follow along with a copy of
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01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:19.760
the slide that will go through.
Yeah, we will definitely do that if
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01:17:20.039 --> 01:17:24.960
an attendee is interested in sitting down. After that's we compile it all together.
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We do the financial plan. We
have the federal side as well,
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01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:30.319
and we help them look at what
their retirement could look like as a federal
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01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:33.960
employee with their pension and the TSP
and life insurance, anything they might need
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01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:38.840
during retirement. That's what we do
after the fact of the seminar after all
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01:17:38.840 --> 01:17:43.760
that. Yeah, and the purpose
of the financial plan for a lot of
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01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:48.279
people is seeing the current snapshot of
their financial life right now, and then
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01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:54.840
we can project out and model based
on a whole array of different variables that
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01:17:54.880 --> 01:17:58.880
can come into play. We can
model how that plan will work depending on
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01:17:58.960 --> 01:18:02.680
different variations factors coming into play.
So that's where the peace of mind comes
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01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:05.720
in for a lot of these people. When you understand your benefits and then
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01:18:05.760 --> 01:18:09.359
you understand how those benefits are going
to work for you into the future,
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01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:14.239
you can actually sleep at night knowing
that you are maximizing your retirement pension as
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01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:17.880
well as maximizing the other benefits that
come with a federal so sean based on
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01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:23.279
your interactions and experience, what are
some unique challenges or opportunities that federal employees
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01:18:23.319 --> 01:18:27.039
may face in the retirement planning compared
to other sectors and how can they best
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01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:31.079
address them? Well, first off, I think it's important that no matter
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01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:35.079
where you are in your career,
your early, middle, or late career,
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01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:41.640
you're going to benefit from coming to
this particular briefing because the things that
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01:18:41.720 --> 01:18:45.840
we'll talk about will be covering all
of the different issues that you face at
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01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:49.079
different points in time in your career. But one of the unique challenges that
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01:18:49.119 --> 01:18:57.520
federal employees have that other people don't
have is the ability to retire much earlier
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01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:00.359
than most Americans. You can retire
as ear is fifty seven if you have
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01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:04.359
thirty years of service, and in
doing so, that means that you've got
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01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:10.079
a unique challenge in terms of the
longevity because most Americans don't retire until they're
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01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:14.119
sixty seven, So that means that's
an additional ten years of planning. And
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01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:17.520
that's where the TSP comes in.
It's the singular most important part of the
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01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:21.720
retirement and it's the only ones that
the employees can control. Some other things
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01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:27.000
that they face that are unique in
that first, classified federal employees don't get
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01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:30.119
a cost of living adjustment until they
reach sixty two, and so that can
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01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:34.960
create a challenge in them in terms
of planning and projecting. So the important
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01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:39.399
part of that is to make sure
that they're utilizing the benefits while they're employed
1096
01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:43.840
and that they're prepared for the different
things that happened after they are employed in
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01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:48.319
going into retirement. Yeah, exactly, and that is very unique in the
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01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:51.920
sense of that they retire fifty seven. There's also and then's obviously there's different
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01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:56.840
parameters that they can get. They
can have the supplemental Social Security and different
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01:19:56.880 --> 01:20:00.560
things like that, which are details
that you will go into during the presentation
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01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:03.920
during their workshop on December thirteenth.
But it's that idea that we just know
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01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:09.720
that it's unique and everything like that. So I mean also in that sense,
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01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:12.840
what are some of the most common
misconceptions that you've seen federal employees have
1104
01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:17.159
about their retiring benefits and how can
they be addressed? Well, I think
1105
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:23.119
some of them have to do with
the taxation of the annuity. A lot
1106
01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:27.119
of folks are not familiar with how
they're packed, so that's one issue Another
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01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:30.159
issue is that when they retire,
some of their benefits are going to go
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01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:33.800
away. So some of the things
such as the ability to pay for their
1109
01:20:33.800 --> 01:20:38.640
health insurance on a pre tax basis
will go away. Some of the other
1110
01:20:38.680 --> 01:20:42.760
benefits that they have, such as
the flexible spinning account, will go away.
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01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:45.479
And those are items that you know
they can utilize while they're employed,
1112
01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:49.359
but after they're retired, those are
benefits that they're not going to have available.
1113
01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:55.079
Also, you mentioned the Special Retirement
Supplement. That is another area that
1114
01:20:55.159 --> 01:20:58.880
people are not often familiar with of
how they have to qualify for that,
1115
01:20:59.439 --> 01:21:01.399
and the fact that if they do
go out and work after they've retired and
1116
01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:04.880
they earn income, that some of
that money could be offset from that.
1117
01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:10.920
And then the other one that can
be quite a challenge is if someone has
1118
01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:15.319
military service, and whether that's they
retired from the military, they did a
1119
01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:18.279
stint in the military, or they
had some reservist time where they were deployed.
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01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:24.960
Oftentimes I find that federal employees are
not familiar with the process and the
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01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:29.840
rationale behind buying or making deposits for
that military service. So there's some of
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01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:33.800
the unique things that you can expect
that we'll cover in the briefing or the
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01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:39.039
seminar on the thirteenth there and Tusaw. Yeah. Another one that came to
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01:21:39.079 --> 01:21:42.279
mind was the sick leave. Right. I think a lot of federal employees
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01:21:42.319 --> 01:21:45.319
they walk over that just not knowing
all the rules behind that. Right,
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01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:48.880
Jean, I'm sorry you cut out
for just one moment. What did you
1127
01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:53.000
say? I said, the sick
leave, the calculations and how that might
1128
01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:58.439
be added back in, right,
Pa. Sickly is something that since twenty
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01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:01.079
ten, federal employees have been able
to use sickly to enhance their annuity.
1130
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:08.760
And it's a benefit that will allow
them to enhance their annuity, but it
1131
01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:13.359
doesn't meet the minimum service requirement.
So I'm here in Louisiana and we have
1132
01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:15.239
a little saying when we give you
a little something extra, we call it
1133
01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:18.840
lanyat, and so that's what we
would say that the sickly is. It's
1134
01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:24.520
a little lath, a little something
extra that can allow you to cash in
1135
01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:27.800
on your sickly to be paid on
it for the rest of your life,
1136
01:22:27.960 --> 01:22:30.640
and also if you provide a survivor
benefit for the rest of their lives.
1137
01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:35.600
And then another good question that we
saw that from your experience, what are
1138
01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:41.720
the most effective resources or tools available
for federal employees to optimize their retirement plans
1139
01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:45.359
and benefits. Well, certainly,
I know that some of the tools that
1140
01:22:45.399 --> 01:22:50.239
you gentlemen have available to show them
the analysis of their benefits and project out
1141
01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:57.840
and that's important. Obviously, they
have access to OPM dot gov, which
1142
01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:03.079
is the imistration for the pension and
the ones who actually calculated and do the
1143
01:23:03.119 --> 01:23:10.760
payout. There's TSP dot gov,
which is the TSP website. There's a
1144
01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:15.079
couple of websites that your listeners may
not be familiar, which is FSA,
1145
01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:17.840
feds dot com and ben e fed. Those have to do with the Flexible
1146
01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:23.079
Spending account. And so what's coming
up here very shortly is the open season,
1147
01:23:23.640 --> 01:23:26.479
and so you know, by having
a chance to attend this seminar,
1148
01:23:27.239 --> 01:23:30.920
you know you'll pick up on some
information hopefully before the open season has closed.
1149
01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:34.159
Well, the open season will actually
close before the seminar. But there
1150
01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:38.239
are some items that you do want
to pay attention to, and that would
1151
01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:43.279
be making sure that you make the
right selection during the open season and that
1152
01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:47.439
you really take a look at your
health insurance provider, which unfortunately this year
1153
01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:51.479
is going up on an average for
the participants of about seven point seven percent,
1154
01:23:53.199 --> 01:23:59.199
and then also the ability to enroll
in the Flexible Spending Account and as
1155
01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:02.319
well as doing you on the dental
programs that you're currently enrolled in. Awesome.
1156
01:24:02.680 --> 01:24:04.880
Well, we are coming up on
a break here, Sean. We
1157
01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:10.800
really appreciate you coming on the show
explaining your expertise and everything to expect at
1158
01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:15.640
our seminar. Again, the workshop
is a Federal employee education workshop. It's
1159
01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:19.760
going to be held at the Tucson
Association of Relators on December thirteenth from eight
1160
01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:23.960
am to four pm. You can
even possibly get a day off if you
1161
01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:28.680
ask your agency for the SF one
eighty two and they offer that. So
1162
01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:31.800
again, it's going to be a
great event. Anyone less than ten years
1163
01:24:31.880 --> 01:24:38.680
definitely take advantage and take it and
finally have that security that everyone's looking for
1164
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:42.159
as you approach retirement. Thank you
everyone for listening. We'll be back on
1165
01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:47.600
the Money Matter Show. Thank you, Sean, Thank you say it's only
1166
01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:54.199
a name. Welcome back to the
Money Matter Show. My name is Sebastian
1167
01:24:54.199 --> 01:24:58.960
bor Senium here with Dave Sherwood,
Todd Click Junior and a good friend Jonathan
1168
01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:03.720
Sabilia. Guys, all right,
it was a beautiful week. And John,
1169
01:25:03.800 --> 01:25:08.279
I mean we we had one of
our first tag team specials, me
1170
01:25:08.279 --> 01:25:12.960
and you together. We we did
we we did collaborate on a client.
1171
01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:17.479
It was very successful and very productive. Yeah, we're we're looking forward to
1172
01:25:17.560 --> 01:25:21.279
doing that into the future because,
as Dean said, the way he built
1173
01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:26.359
this firm was really in a way
to have almost the whole financial mall in
1174
01:25:26.359 --> 01:25:29.960
one place. Right, you have
everything you need in one stop and we
1175
01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:32.399
can take care and service you in
any areas that you have. So having
1176
01:25:32.399 --> 01:25:36.159
that ability and really, I mean
when it comes to financial planning, the
1177
01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:42.279
most closest cousin probably is a state
planning. State planning in taxes, right,
1178
01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:45.880
both of my specialty. And that's
why we it's really nice to work
1179
01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:47.399
so well. You know, we
work well together so well. And that
1180
01:25:47.479 --> 01:25:50.880
was always my goal when I first
started out, was to be part of
1181
01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:56.399
a family office, which is basically, you know, these super wealthy people
1182
01:25:56.439 --> 01:26:01.359
they just have a one stop shop
financial and legal in texts home they can
1183
01:26:01.439 --> 01:26:04.479
go to where it's all taken care
of under one roof. In fact,
1184
01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:08.079
I had a buddy I used to
do when I did Texas. He was
1185
01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:11.920
a lawyer and he left to go
to a family office and his job was,
1186
01:26:12.399 --> 01:26:15.600
you know, some of the more
wealthy people. What his job was
1187
01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:19.199
was to one of the clients.
He was telling me that was traveling over
1188
01:26:19.239 --> 01:26:25.640
to Africa and he had a little
bit of a medical condition. So his
1189
01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:30.720
job was to fined every hospital in
every town in Africa that he was going
1190
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:34.840
to go to and contact that hospital
to let him let them know that we're
1191
01:26:34.960 --> 01:26:40.640
going to have an American in there
that has a special condition and he may
1192
01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:45.640
and he will be there at some
point to get some sort of testing or
1193
01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:47.399
up there. I don't know if
it was dialysis or what, but it
1194
01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:50.520
was his job to make sure,
you know, his this guy's vacation went
1195
01:26:50.520 --> 01:26:57.119
along smoothly. Yeah, I mean
it kind of put some picture or color
1196
01:26:57.159 --> 01:27:00.399
around that comment. I mean,
we do things like house calls, right
1197
01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:02.560
and if someone's not able to always
drive, we will drive out and the
1198
01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:06.279
SeaBASS as many times droven out to
get a signature to a client. And
1199
01:27:06.319 --> 01:27:11.000
that's what we're all about. That
customer service that you will not find at
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01:27:11.039 --> 01:27:15.039
a big house because why would they
offer it. It's not profitable for them,
1201
01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:18.520
Like it and also it's waste of
time for a big wirehouse like that.
1202
01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:21.800
Well, for us, it's what
sets us apart. It's what we
1203
01:27:21.880 --> 01:27:27.159
focus on. Customer services is number
one. I mean that that's what makes
1204
01:27:27.239 --> 01:27:30.800
us so unique. Well, there's
any things make us unique, right,
1205
01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:35.000
but customer service, above and beyond
the norm is what we want to bring
1206
01:27:35.079 --> 01:27:39.479
to the table. Yeah, we
want we want to say something that we
1207
01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:43.680
would do and really you would do
that for us. That's that's the type
1208
01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:45.319
of people we want to be.
We may not call up the hotel and
1209
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:48.520
the Barbados to let them know you're
coming, but we'll make sure you come
1210
01:27:48.520 --> 01:27:50.359
here. You're gonna get you know, we're going to take a look at
1211
01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:55.159
every single situation, make sure your
money's protected, it's going where you wanted
1212
01:27:55.159 --> 01:27:57.880
to go, and grow as fast
as it can. Are you and John
1213
01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:00.560
anathing to tell us about your little
collaboration so we get an idea of the
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types of things that people might expect
here. Yeah, So essentially a client
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came in and their goal was preservation
of principle and they came in too inherit,
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inherited some money and needed to know
what to do with it. Didn't
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know what to do with it,
and the goal was preservation of principle,
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and so me and Dave we sat
down and devised a strategy of how we
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were going to take part of that. And like we've said many times on
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the show, preservation of Principle,
it's a great time because you have a
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really high interest rates. You have
treasury ladders paying a ravage around five percent
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01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:32.880
right now for a five year ladder. You have magas that are paying five
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point five. So there's a lot
of options out there at Vanguard money Market
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five point two, So a lot
of options out there, and that's what
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we are side of our business,
right. And then she also needed help
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with in a state right, getting
an updated trust. I mean, how
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old was the old will and power? Now I wasn't a trust, sorry,
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01:28:53.279 --> 01:28:57.359
it was Actually she was thinking that
she needed to trust. And then
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you said that you don't need a
trust. And I think that's what's so
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unique about John is he won't sell
you something you don't need. He will
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tell you no, we can do
this a lot more efficiently, right exactly.
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And you know I looked at it
and I said, you know,
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it's they were coming into a lot
of money and they were at the financial
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01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:18.880
They were at a financial level where
you could do a revocable living trust,
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but we avoided that because it was
unnecessary. Everything they had was design beneficiary
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designated, meaning you can throw a
beneficiary on its ownership and if something happened
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to the person who owned it,
it would go directly to them, avoiding
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probate, which is usually our goal. And so we just made an update
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to the will and this specific person, you know, not naming names,
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but they had four children. Since
the original drafting of the will, one
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of the children passed away and they
wanted to disinherit the other child, so
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only two were going to get the
assets. So we had to make an
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update and make sure that third child
did not receive any any benefit exactly.
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And so you know, encompassing all
that in one meeting was it was a
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packed full hour, that's for sure, but you know, doing it all
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in one meeting, I mean,
where else can you get that? Right?
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But the client did come in with
inherited money that she didn't really need
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and didn't know what to do with
it, and had the will situation,
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01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:26.119
and it was all handled right here
in one meeting, in one media.
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Yeah, they had questions about taxation. And you know, I want to
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give my child one hundred thousand dollars
And I said, okay, go ahead.
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You know there's no tax involved.
You're well underneath the unified you know
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the exemption amount. Uh. You
know if you may want to file the
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seven or nine, which is a
gift tax return, just to report the
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01:30:44.640 --> 01:30:48.880
gift, but you won't know taxes
on it. So what about the I
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was under the impression of the maximum
you could give to any one person in
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one year seventeen grand. Well you
can give So that's the that's the exclusion
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about excuse me, I said exemption. That's the exclusion a mount So you
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don't have to necessarily file a gift
tax return if it's below seventeen thousand dollars
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01:31:06.079 --> 01:31:09.640
per year. But just because it's
above that amount doesn't mean you're going to
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pay taxes. The Irish just wants
to know about it. Oh, I
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say, so, who would then
determine what the tax would be? Would
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it be based upon the recipient's tax
bracket? No, it's going to be
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based It's not going to be based
on the tax bracket. The gift will
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be basically be tied into your state
tax and it will be tax at forty
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percent if you go over the unified
credit amount. We see all the time,
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and you know what's going on out
there in the real world where people
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are giving their kids fifty dollars one
hundred down dollars and nobody's saying the thing
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about it. So the reality of
it is as a taxpayer, fortunately there's
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no way to track that, or
unfortunately there's no way to track that.
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One great thing I'm doing for a
client this week is they have a business
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and they have young kids kids,
And what we're doing is, you know,
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you're able to give a child under
eighteen, give they're able to work
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for the company, and you're able
to pay them. And if you if
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you pay them less than thirteen thousand, eight hundred dollars, they won't have
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to pay taxes. So that'll be
a deduction on your business income return and
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they'll be able to receive the income
and not have to pay any taxes.
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But what's great about that is that's
their an income. What can you do
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with their an income? Put into
a wroth? And if you put a
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raw six thousand dollars into a wroth
at fifteen years old, at fifteen years
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old, and then a six thousand
at sixteen and six and six thousand at
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seventeen compound interest at sixty five.
What do you think that number is about?
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Well, I mean six thousand about
nine percent starting nine about two million.
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I think it's about one point seven
million dollars, So I was pretty
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close. That's doing the six thousand
dollars into a roth every year for how
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long? If you just put eighteen
thousand dollars and let it sit there at
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nine percent compound interest after fifty years? Yeah, So that's all you ever
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put in, is the eighteen thousand
dollars went. I went on and I
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checked it today. It's about one
point seven million dollars. That's amazing.
1290
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And that's that I mean. I
remember Dean telling me that with his son
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Matthew, he would Matthew was a
model, a baby model for you know,
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01:33:20.920 --> 01:33:25.239
and he would pay him earned income
and then they used that as started
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the wroth. And so using that
type of idea, and if you're a
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business owner, you have so many
options available to you, you need to
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01:33:31.520 --> 01:33:35.079
have an expert so you can actually
know if you're taking advantage of all the
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benefits available to including how to what
type of a business that you are,
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right, that's we've talked about that
a little bit. Whether you're a chapter
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01:33:45.239 --> 01:33:48.439
as corp. Yeah, it doesn't
matter. It could be any business as
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01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:53.720
long if you have an employee,
you can pay them payroll and it'll reduce
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01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:59.000
your net income and by thirteen thousand
and eight to fifty whatever you want to
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01:33:59.039 --> 01:34:01.399
pay them, whatever they're in earned
income is and then they'll be able to
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take it. They'll not have to
pay taxes on it. And then you
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01:34:04.319 --> 01:34:11.039
start that roth and so an individual
doesn't pay income tax until their income exceeds
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01:34:11.119 --> 01:34:14.159
that thirteen thousand and eight fifty.
Is that the twenty twenty three Yes,
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okay, and this particular child.
Let's say you have two children working for
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01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:21.640
the company getting paid thirteen thousand,
eight hundred. What do they have to
1307
01:34:21.680 --> 01:34:25.560
do? I mean, do they
actually have to show up? Well,
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01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:29.039
they got to do a job.
Okay. You know. Let's maybe you've
1309
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:30.880
got a couple of young kids that
you want to put on the website and
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01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:34.960
have their pictures marketing. You know, I'm a family business. You know,
1311
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that could be considered some sort of
that's considered employee. Have them cleaned,
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01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:44.399
you know, clean up the trash
every once in a while, it's
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01:34:44.720 --> 01:34:47.399
or maybe you just have them participate
in some sort of in some of the
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actual day to day stuff. I
don't know, that's that's something you're gonna
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01:34:50.159 --> 01:34:53.520
have to make it. I don't
want to travel down that road. No,
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01:34:53.640 --> 01:34:55.640
I get it, I get it. I'm just scariously. You can't
1317
01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:58.920
just give them thirteen thousand, eight
hundred. They actually have to be performing
1318
01:34:59.039 --> 01:35:03.479
a duty and and I guess in
theory the duty would have to have that
1319
01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:08.880
value to you, right, You
can't have them come in once a month
1320
01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:11.880
and empty the trash and pay them
thirteen thousand, eight hundred. Yeah,
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01:35:11.920 --> 01:35:15.079
the irs, I'm sniffing around the
last. What they're doing day to day?
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01:35:15.640 --> 01:35:17.800
Well, and that's like so many
things in life. You know,
1323
01:35:17.880 --> 01:35:23.720
if it's not a problem unless you
get caught. And so if you and
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01:35:24.079 --> 01:35:27.279
what we always were big advocates here
played by the rules, right, that's
1325
01:35:27.359 --> 01:35:30.359
that's the best way to stay out
of troubles. But that's why I prefaced
1326
01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:32.079
it. I said, have them
come to a job and then pay them
1327
01:35:32.079 --> 01:35:35.960
earned income thirteen and fifty dollars.
Right now, I want to make sure
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that everyone understood that that was the
case, and that you and you you
1329
01:35:42.039 --> 01:35:46.199
shouldn't be giving money over and above
seventeen thousand without filing the appropriate return.
1330
01:35:46.319 --> 01:35:51.199
So I think it's a judge Like
Judge Judy said, if you if you
1331
01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:56.039
play by the rules, you don't
need a good memory. You know that's
1332
01:35:56.079 --> 01:35:58.439
right. I think there's something to
be said for that. All right,
1333
01:35:58.479 --> 01:36:01.640
So we're coming at the end of
another show. Anybody got any gems of
1334
01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:05.720
wisdom here? Fifty two week high
on Lulu Lemon last week after they were
1335
01:36:05.720 --> 01:36:11.359
added to the S and P five
hundred something good happening to somebody. That
1336
01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:14.680
curve is not no curve no more. It's basically a line of this point
1337
01:36:14.760 --> 01:36:18.319
seventeen basis points on that on that
yield curve. We appreciate your taking time
1338
01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:20.399
to listen to us. So again
we're coming to the end of the show.
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01:36:20.479 --> 01:36:25.960
Jonathan, thank you. Welcome at
Greenberg Financial. We want to be
1340
01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:29.720
happy, and everybody want to be
happy. Yeah, most important thing.
1341
01:36:29.920 --> 01:36:32.640
I think it would be healthy.
But at the end of the day,
1342
01:36:33.279 --> 01:36:39.479
what we're trying to be here at
Greenberg Financial is probitable. See you next week.