Sept. 24, 2023

How the Fed and Labor Strikes are Impacting Markets

How the Fed and Labor Strikes are Impacting Markets

Welcome back to the Money Matters Show! In today's episode, we have an array of intriguing topics to discuss. We'll take a closer look at the indicators that may be pointing towards a possible recession, the strategy of dollar cost averaging in...

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Welcome back to the Money Matters Show! In today's episode, we have an array of intriguing topics to discuss. We'll take a closer look at the indicators that may be pointing towards a possible recession, the strategy of dollar cost averaging in investment, the intricacies of Thrift Savings Plans (TSP) withdrawals in retirement, and the proposed solutions for the future of Social Security. Additionally, we'll delve into the importance of setting goals in financial planning, the current state of Raytheon stock, and the evolving landscape of EV garages and hybrids. Plus, we'll bring you the latest updates on the markets and geopolitical events that are impacting the financial world. So sit back, relax, and get ready for another informative and thought-provoking episode!If you would like to contact us to learn more about our firm and our process call us at 520.544.4909 or go to our website at www.Greenbergfinancial.com or email us at Contact@Greenbergfinancial.com
100:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,799Good morning everybody. It's Sunday morning. It's eight o'clock at seven ninety katus200:00:04,839 --> 00:00:07,719ten. This we'll be the moneyby the show for the next two hours.300:00:07,719 --> 00:00:11,839We will come and talk to youdirectly about what we think it's happening400:00:11,880 --> 00:00:17,359with the markets. It's going ongeopolitically and politically in our nation, and500:00:17,399 --> 00:00:22,399what's going on with these the markets. And not a good week again,600:00:23,239 --> 00:00:29,640not a good month. It's notreally surprising obviously, with being in September.700:00:29,879 --> 00:00:36,759Maybe the velocity of velocity of thedown roof is a little bit more800:00:36,799 --> 00:00:45,079than I kind of expected. Butguess what, it's okay. It's okay900:00:45,159 --> 00:00:51,039because what we have going on rightnow is selling off the mentality changes.1000:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,399And if you've been listening to usmitigating risk, you got Melanie to what1100:00:56,079 --> 00:01:00,000buy at these lower levels than theywere a little while ago. We would1200:01:00,000 --> 00:01:06,040down almost four three percent for theweek across the board, were down six1300:01:06,120 --> 00:01:11,280percent on the knives back for themonth, four point one percent for the1400:01:11,400 --> 00:01:17,239S and P and two percent forthe Dow. We are now only up1500:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,719twelve percent for the year on theSP five hundred, and the equalated S1600:01:21,799 --> 00:01:27,519ANDP is only at one point onepercent, so you can see markets fluctuate.1700:01:27,640 --> 00:01:33,280Valuations matter. The big news iswhen the market started kind of getting1800:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,959a little itchy and then turned down, was after our Federal Reserve a chairman,1900:01:38,920 --> 00:01:45,319Jerome Powell basically said we're going toraise rates probably again at some time,2000:01:46,359 --> 00:01:49,439and they'll be higher for longer.Well, what has he not said2100:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,439that? That's what I didn't understand. Why the markets rallied and kind of2200:01:53,439 --> 00:01:59,359broke out earlier in the week madeno sense. Now do I think we2300:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,760got a little shout, We canhave a little bit more of a bounce.2400:02:00,840 --> 00:02:08,479We probably could maybe go up twothree percent from here, But we2500:02:08,479 --> 00:02:15,039remember October's were October's or the crashmonths. And I'm not saying it's a2600:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,000crash coming. I'm just saying I'mstaying cautious now. If we do have2700:02:19,039 --> 00:02:23,159a big move back down in Augustin October, I mean I will absolutely2800:02:23,479 --> 00:02:29,000start stepping up because I think thatwe'll have a bounce to probably middle of2900:02:29,039 --> 00:02:34,159December before we have to hear whetheror not he's going to raise interest rates.3000:02:34,159 --> 00:02:36,439What our interest rates doing, whatthe economy is doing. I don't3100:02:36,439 --> 00:02:39,400think the numbers are starting to showup the way they want them, so3200:02:39,439 --> 00:02:45,639they're gonna have to keep raising weights. I mean, there were less people3300:02:45,719 --> 00:02:50,759looking for unemployment, less people thatwere out of work more again this week.3400:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,280And when that happens, the FederalReserve gets concerned and there's u A3500:02:55,639 --> 00:03:02,879W strike does not help things becauseif they're they're fighting for more money,3600:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,960and if they're fighting for more moneyand they get it, everything goes up.3700:03:09,159 --> 00:03:16,120We're trying to fight inflation. It'sabsurd that they don't come out and3800:03:16,159 --> 00:03:20,000just stay hey, right now,it's not the time to be asking for3900:03:20,039 --> 00:03:23,479more money because it just for inflation. So you get more money, what4000:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,120about everybody else that's not getting moremoney? They can't afford it, So4100:03:28,159 --> 00:03:32,280everyone just becomes very selfish. It'snot like all the workers don't get some4200:03:32,360 --> 00:03:38,000decent money right now. And notagainst going ahead and sharing in profits and4300:03:38,080 --> 00:03:45,120doing things like that and benefits.I think that's a great way for employees4400:03:45,199 --> 00:03:50,120of big corporations to be rewarded.But if you go in there for straight4500:03:50,159 --> 00:03:53,639pay, it's inevitable you're never gonnabe happy. If you're going to a4600:03:53,680 --> 00:04:00,080government job for straight pay, it'sinevitable. You're not gonna be happy.4700:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,719I'm going to discuss that because it'svery important to understand benefits and the cost4800:04:06,800 --> 00:04:12,400of benefits versus just wages in yourpockets. This is the money amount of4900:04:12,439 --> 00:04:15,199show and as you know, it'sbrought to you by Greenberg Financial Group.5000:04:15,599 --> 00:04:18,399Greenberg Financial Group is both the registeredinvestment advisory and they broke a dealer,5100:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,240which means we're registered with the SEC. Members of Finland. Members are CIPPIC.5200:04:24,000 --> 00:04:30,360We talk a lot about ideas,strategies. Everything has risk, Everything5300:04:30,439 --> 00:04:32,839has risks. That's why as soonas you ever speak to us, when5400:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,839you come and talk to us,we always talk about your risk tolerance and5500:04:36,879 --> 00:04:40,639then we try to match it upwith your portfolio and what kind of risk5600:04:40,680 --> 00:04:46,519you have in your portfolio. Thatdoesn't mean everything always works out. That's5700:04:46,519 --> 00:04:51,279why you know what your risk portfoliois, more balanced, the more conservative,5800:04:53,759 --> 00:04:58,879the smaller allocations, the more spreadout you are, the more type5900:04:59,000 --> 00:05:04,040more fixed income you're in. It'sa lot different saying hey, when the6000:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,759market's going up like last week andwe asked, hell, yeah, ustunce6100:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,279would have been better because we're breakingout. We're going to forty five hundred6200:05:11,319 --> 00:05:16,519plus and now you know at almostforty three hundred. That's a big move6300:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,360off. That's one hundred and almostone hundred and someone points in the SMP6400:05:21,480 --> 00:05:30,120in one week. Hundred and twentypoints. That's a big move down.6500:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,959One hundred thirty points in the SMP. Five hundred is a big move down6600:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,680in one week. Well, I'veseen it in one day, but I'm6700:05:39,680 --> 00:05:45,399just talking about normal times. Sowhere do we go here? I think6800:05:45,439 --> 00:05:48,399that we might have a some supportcoming in pretty soon, and if we6900:05:48,439 --> 00:05:54,720don't, well we'll go down toforty two hundred, remember ultimately, and7000:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,519I think it's more next year's secondquarter, third quarter next year, when7100:05:58,519 --> 00:06:04,399the economic numbers are just now showingus that we are going to being a7200:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,959slowdown and earnings aren't going to bethere, in evaluations aren't going to be7300:06:08,959 --> 00:06:12,240there, And that's when we cango back into the mid three thousands again,7400:06:12,319 --> 00:06:17,319which would be a very big movedown. You're talking twenty thirty percent7500:06:17,439 --> 00:06:20,839down, if that's possible. Ihope we haven't seen some signals of that7600:06:20,920 --> 00:06:26,079beforehand. See, the problem isthey want inflation down, but our economy7700:06:26,319 --> 00:06:29,920is going, is still going,and inflation is going and we're not seeing7800:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,800that slowdown except in certain areas likeretail. And that's real simple. People7900:06:34,879 --> 00:06:41,199can't buy stuff if they're paying formore higher prices for gas and energy,8000:06:41,639 --> 00:06:45,199and if they're paying for more pricesand food, and if they're paying for8100:06:45,279 --> 00:06:50,639more prices and rent, then you'renot gonna be able to have the retail8200:06:50,720 --> 00:06:57,759buying. The necessary needs are costingmore. That's why they're trying to get8300:06:57,759 --> 00:07:03,160inflation down. But they blame everybodybody else, everybody else. Why don't8400:07:03,160 --> 00:07:08,720they just sit back and say,what is the number one thing, the8500:07:09,000 --> 00:07:15,360number one thing we can do rightnow to bring prices down collectively as Democrats8600:07:15,399 --> 00:07:24,519and Republicans, And that is toput pressure on this White House to open8700:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,800up the pipelines, open up thedrilling, Let us drill here, let8800:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,480us have our own oil energy,let's be energy dependent. How many times8900:07:32,480 --> 00:07:40,959have we told you that there's morecoal fired plants, coal fired plants in9000:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,639China and India opening up than wehave in the entire United States. This9100:07:46,800 --> 00:07:57,879whole thing about climate control is reallypeople control. We know that we feel9200:07:57,879 --> 00:08:01,480it. They want to control us. They want this excess money by always9300:08:01,480 --> 00:08:07,759talking about the climate, as ifwe don't want better climate, but if9400:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,319you don't get China and India andPakistan and everybody else, Russia, Middle9500:08:11,319 --> 00:08:18,720East, North Korea on board,then we're fighting an uphill battle that's hard9600:08:18,759 --> 00:08:24,079to win, and we are goingto suffer the consequence it because we are9700:08:24,199 --> 00:08:31,000spending more on our energy a food. Remember if oil prices go up,9800:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,360guess prices go up, Diesel pricesgo up, and it costs more to9900:08:33,600 --> 00:08:39,039do what run your electricity. Itcosts more to drive your car, It10000:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,799costs more to eat because the freight, the travel, the trails, the10100:08:43,879 --> 00:08:52,799airlines, the trucks all are beingmore expensive to bring things from one place10200:08:52,799 --> 00:08:56,120to another. So by the timeit hits your shelves in the grocery store,10300:08:56,759 --> 00:09:05,320the prices continue to go higher.That's inflation. The only good part10400:09:05,440 --> 00:09:11,960of this inflation is that interest ratesare finally at a point that retired people,10500:09:11,039 --> 00:09:15,000people that have cash don't have totake a huge amount of risk to10600:09:15,039 --> 00:09:20,360get over five percent. It's theonly good thing. But all those people10700:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,399that you know really don't care aboutthe economy, don't care about it.10800:09:24,399 --> 00:09:31,639You know what you're suffering too.You can't get five percent because you don't10900:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,919have money to put away, soeverything's costing more. So what do you11000:09:35,960 --> 00:09:43,840do You want more wages? Youthink you deserve more, well, some11100:09:43,879 --> 00:09:50,799people do. But these union strikes, whether it's teachers union, United auto11200:09:50,840 --> 00:09:56,440workers union, airlines, unions,you name it, all it does is11300:09:56,519 --> 00:10:01,919hurt the economy. And then whenthat doesn't happen, the government union of11400:10:01,039 --> 00:10:07,600saying we need to raise minimum wagesso everyone can have a fair wage.11500:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,000It's just tax the rich to beable to pay for all this. You're11600:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,159a fair share, remember, exceptwhen it comes to his son. He11700:10:16,200 --> 00:10:24,200doesn't really have to pay his fairshare. We don't realize, and maybe11800:10:24,240 --> 00:10:30,200now you will, because I'd lovefor you to go back to my eight11900:10:30,399 --> 00:10:35,000ten. Even more than that showswhen I kept talking about minimum wage going12000:10:35,080 --> 00:10:41,080up in all these fast food places, it will put an inflation that we12100:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,159spin on everything, and we're notgoing to be able to hand it because12200:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,879the prices will be too high.McDonald's will be too high, fast food12300:10:46,879 --> 00:10:50,519places will be too high. Everythingwill be too high. That's what inflation12400:10:50,600 --> 00:11:01,840does. We now see credit cardbalances in the trillions. We see savings12500:11:01,879 --> 00:11:11,039getting depleted across the board. Wesee the workforce sort of low, which12600:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,879is the only reason certain people thatactually earn it will get more money because12700:11:16,879 --> 00:11:20,039it's so hard to find good employeestoday. You talk to almost anyone that12800:11:20,159 --> 00:11:26,440owns a small firm, small company, medium sized content company. It's very12900:11:26,480 --> 00:11:35,159difficult to find employees that are goodand so also with the mind friend that13000:11:35,159 --> 00:11:39,720they'll stick around. One thing thatpeople don't realize is the cost of training.13100:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,639You bring somebody in, you spendall the money on training them.13200:11:46,799 --> 00:11:50,159Your father gets up to snuff ayear and a half, two years,13300:11:50,159 --> 00:11:54,480maybe three years later, depending onthe business, and then he thinks he13400:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,720has knows it all and wants moremoney and leaves, and you got to13500:11:58,759 --> 00:12:01,759do it over and over again.Now, big corporations, they absorb it.13600:12:01,759 --> 00:12:09,440It is absolutely part of their businessplan, always training, always filling13700:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,799in, always hiring, because peopleleaving. On the other side, smaller13800:12:13,879 --> 00:12:18,960medium businesses, hell no, thatcosts them a lot of money. Restaurant13900:12:18,960 --> 00:12:26,039turnover costs them a lot of money. Extreme amount. Training is very very14000:12:26,159 --> 00:12:31,519expensive. So let's now move onto what everybody wants its benefits. They14100:12:31,559 --> 00:12:37,600want their health benefit, they wantvision benefit. They they they want country14200:12:37,600 --> 00:12:43,519club benefits. They want you namethe benefits. They want it that costs14300:12:43,600 --> 00:12:50,039money, especially when people become retiredand everything. It costs money to the14400:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,000corporation. It's just not about yourwage. Now you're going to increase your14500:12:54,000 --> 00:13:03,320wages, that's a cost. Thebenefits all go up, the profit sharing,14600:13:03,480 --> 00:13:09,440their four one K match, allthat stuff goes up. And all14700:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,440you hear is during good times,the CEOs and make it too much money.14800:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,759The top managements make it too muchmoney. This is corporate greed.14900:13:16,840 --> 00:13:24,120You hear this out of Bernie Sandersall the time. But yet it's okay15000:13:24,159 --> 00:13:31,039for him to make millions of dollarsin the Senate and doesn't even work except15100:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,759for what he does. How's heeven worth millions tens of millions of dollars,15200:13:35,639 --> 00:13:41,799Bernie Sanders, the hypocrisy on greedand the spoons out of their mouth15300:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,840is horrible. There should be noreason why if you work hard, put15400:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,519yourself in position, and move upthe ladders, that you can't get paid15500:13:54,519 --> 00:14:01,799the money that someone's willing to payyou. If you walk work for Ford,15600:14:01,919 --> 00:14:05,360and you work your way in andthe board of directors and everybody else15700:14:05,360 --> 00:14:11,799says you're gonna be my CEO orGM and you're making nine ten twenty thirty15800:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,039forty million dollars. Whatever it is, and believe me, it's tied in15900:14:16,639 --> 00:14:20,840to success most of it. Howwell is the company doing, how well16000:14:20,879 --> 00:14:24,200are the profits doing? How well'sgoing up? And for everyone, the16100:14:24,279 --> 00:14:31,320media and the White House and corporategreed. Meanwhile, they take care of16200:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,440maternity leaves, they take care ofsick pay, they take care of long16300:14:35,559 --> 00:14:39,399term care, they take care ofshort term care, they take care of16400:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,720medical care. They give you aprofit care, and they give you bonuses.16500:14:41,759 --> 00:14:46,080They give you the things that youget. What they don't do is16600:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,080give you more money other than whatscale you're in. It's the way they're16700:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,200able to do it. If youdon't like it, don't work for a16800:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,919corporation. You want more money inyour pocket because you think you know what16900:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,039you can do, do it.You're not gonna get benefits. You're not17000:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,960Many people don't have four one Kplans, which means they're not all they17100:15:05,000 --> 00:15:11,159do and they're not matching small companiesor healthcare. I keep running into people17200:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,240that there's no healthcare. They're workingfor more small companies. So you get17300:15:13,240 --> 00:15:18,879a few extra bucks, the chancesare you aren't saving the money you are17400:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,799in having healthcare, you're not doingany of those things. If you're barely17500:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,720getting buy and you need extra money, that's what happens. So then when17600:15:26,759 --> 00:15:31,679you stick these ordered workers and givethem more money, not just ten or17700:15:31,720 --> 00:15:37,320twenty percent rays, but they wantforty percent rays and they want to work17800:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,960four days a week and get samesame pay and that work forty hours.17900:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,200That, in my book, isridiculous. You want to work less,18000:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,159get paid less. You want tobe a millionaire, save your money and18100:15:54,159 --> 00:16:03,480don't outspend it. Let the compoundingraise your money. Teach that. Teach18200:16:03,600 --> 00:16:10,399that to people. That's why Ithink that profits that the foe on K18300:16:10,600 --> 00:16:17,240plans should not allow you to takeout money. People use that as a18400:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,600savings account and use it to payoff things, and then they pay the18500:16:21,639 --> 00:16:27,039penalties and they pay those things becausethat's the one place they saved. It18600:16:27,039 --> 00:16:33,440should only be for hardships, periodhardships, medical hardships. Maybe even buying18700:16:33,480 --> 00:16:40,279a household is okay with me,but not just taking out loans, because18800:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,840to pay off your credit cards,that's the adverse of what you want to18900:16:44,879 --> 00:16:55,559do. And I'm watching what's goingon everywhere, and instead of helping the19000:16:55,639 --> 00:17:02,399middle class and the lower middle classand the people in the poverty and getting19100:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,599them to come up to the upperplaying field. We continue to throw money19200:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,720down to the lower playing field andtell you what'll take care of you.19300:17:11,039 --> 00:17:14,359Here's checks. You're right. Youdon't have to pay for school, you19400:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,440don't have to pay your school loansback, you don't have to pay medical19500:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,880bills, you don't have to payany of those stuff. And by the19600:17:18,880 --> 00:17:26,480way, we'll give you assistance too. If we're giving assistance to able bodied19700:17:26,519 --> 00:17:30,319people, they need to be goingthrough a job training type of deal and19800:17:30,359 --> 00:17:37,480get a job. Put the moneytowards that. Help the mid and small19900:17:37,559 --> 00:17:44,839companies find good employees because they're trainedgiving sentives to people to do stuff.20000:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,640Change the immigration system. Our boarderis out of control. And I know20100:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,119it's out of control now, notonly because you're down here and you see20200:17:53,119 --> 00:17:59,000it and stuff. It's because you'relistening to all these Democratic states complain on20300:17:59,039 --> 00:18:07,039how they can't afford ten thousand peoplein their neighborhoods. New York's going berserk.20400:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,960They can't afford it, Well,why are we supposed to afford it?20500:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,440And the White House launches on anddoes nothing but somehow they get money20600:18:15,480 --> 00:18:21,319to those states. Use the COVIDmoney. You haven't used that. You20700:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,039got all that extra money New Jersey, Connecticut, New York, California,20800:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,599and then they spend it on thingsto give away for votes. That constantly20900:18:30,640 --> 00:18:36,559a buying votes, constantly buying votes. Run America like a corporation. Run21000:18:36,559 --> 00:18:40,920it like a business. Let's geta profit. Will be so strong and21100:18:41,000 --> 00:18:52,000so stable, people would be happy. You know, growing up, you21200:18:52,119 --> 00:18:59,119had a home, your parents worked, they had dinner, they had that21300:18:59,200 --> 00:19:04,240they were able to come over.I had no idea, you know,21400:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,559which was you know, you're growingup a long island in Levittown. We21500:19:07,599 --> 00:19:11,559had a color TV, we hadan above ground pool. We were excited.21600:19:11,559 --> 00:19:15,680I had a new baseball mitten.I had a ten speed bike.21700:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,640I thought that was great. Iftears drives started driving up to those that21800:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,920are in New York, understand thislong island, the north Shore, and21900:19:25,000 --> 00:19:30,480you see old money, the greatNecks, the sands points, the man22000:19:30,559 --> 00:19:36,799hassets. That was money, allgated things. You never even know anyone22100:19:36,880 --> 00:19:44,720up there. That was a wholedifferent world. But I never never looked22200:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,839out and go, wow, I'mpoor. They I should have some of22300:19:48,880 --> 00:19:55,400their money. That's not fair thatthey have the money. No. First22400:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,039one in my car, my wholefamily to go to college. My parents22500:19:59,079 --> 00:20:04,400made sure they saved money to putto pay for my tuition. I had22600:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,319to pay room and board, Ihad to get out loans. I had22700:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,480to work, I had to playsports. I had to do all that22800:20:08,519 --> 00:20:15,240stuff. There was no work ethicthat was instilled in me. Maybe it22900:20:15,319 --> 00:20:18,079was from the paper out or mowingthe lawns, a shoveling the snow.23000:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,680But we always had some money todo some things we wanted to do.23100:20:23,039 --> 00:20:26,759We wanted to go roll the skatingwith your friends. Oh, I had23200:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,599a couple of bucks. I wasable to go to the movies. Whatever23300:20:29,599 --> 00:20:37,160it was. My hand was neverout. People don't understand this anymore.23400:20:37,519 --> 00:20:41,079And then when you did, yousaved it. This is the amount of23500:20:41,079 --> 00:20:45,000money. You pay your bills,you put it in your vacation fund,23600:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,839you put it in your education fund, and you don't overspend. What we23700:20:49,920 --> 00:20:56,119have done to the American person fromby today pay later. It's ridiculous.23800:20:57,279 --> 00:21:00,279They think there's no interest, soit's great. You don't think the price23900:21:00,400 --> 00:21:06,000is higher with the interests included.And then you buy today yourselves all so24000:21:06,039 --> 00:21:08,039it's thirty bucks a month. Thenyou buy something else fifty bucks a month.24100:21:08,079 --> 00:21:11,440Oh, I need that one hundredand fifty bucks. Before you know24200:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,880it, it's five hundred dollars amonth that you should be putting away.24300:21:14,039 --> 00:21:17,119And you keep buying stuff and forthe next few years you got that payment.24400:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,799You never get ahead of the game. And then if you do get24500:21:19,839 --> 00:21:25,160ahead of the game, the moneythat goes away, the money that pleas24600:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,400put away. And now you geta raise. Now you get a raise.24700:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,960You know what people do, Theyspend it. Take half of that24800:21:32,039 --> 00:21:34,359money that you get as a raiseand put it until you fill up your24900:21:34,359 --> 00:21:41,119four in one K plan. Maximizeyour retirement stuff. So when you get25000:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,079to the age and you're only goingto get twenty five fifteen hundred and three25100:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,880thousand dollars and you have nothing else. You're not only getting social Security,25200:21:49,119 --> 00:21:55,960you're getting other money sent to you. Don't be that person, and if25300:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,039you are, make sure you teachyour young ones not to be. Education25400:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,160is the most important thing. Justbecause you start off with nothing doesn't mean25500:22:04,200 --> 00:22:10,720you can't be self sustained. Andthat's what's going on with our country right25600:22:10,720 --> 00:22:15,680now we should be self sustaining energy. We should be exporting oil, not25700:22:17,480 --> 00:22:22,079importing oil. We should be theking up deciding what prices. Do you25800:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,720know that our reserves it is downto one of the lowest levels it's ever25900:22:25,759 --> 00:22:30,400been ever, three hundred and twelvemillion barrels, I think they said,26000:22:30,799 --> 00:22:33,519is what we have now? Threehundred and twelve billion. We were all26100:22:33,519 --> 00:22:37,079like, up at nine hundred,he's been draining, draining, draining,26200:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,359draining, draining, And what happenedto buy him back when we were at26300:22:40,400 --> 00:22:45,079seventy seventy one? Did they lieto us? But not one media person26400:22:45,119 --> 00:22:51,440would check that out, not one. If God forbid, there was a26500:22:51,480 --> 00:22:56,480world problem and we had to sustainourselves, how are we going to get26600:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,160our oil up and running quick enoughto do what we need to do for26700:23:00,200 --> 00:23:07,599ourselves and allies? Remember, whenpeople are starving and need they will take26800:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,079it from anyone they want. That'show people get in trouble. When someone26900:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,920needs money and they don't have any, they go to loan sharks. And27000:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,240what does that do? It spilesYou're into problems and real problems and going27100:23:19,279 --> 00:23:25,319down the drain you usually never getout of. Oh it's temporary existence that27200:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,920no, it's not so right nowwe're all markets. So I'm gonna talk27300:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,680a lot more about it in thenext hour and a half. There's vulnerability27400:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,160between now and a year and ahalf. How far down I don't know.27500:23:40,079 --> 00:23:41,039And every time if you say that, next thing, you know,27600:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,480something happens. They go high.Yes they reserved, if they resolved the27700:23:45,799 --> 00:23:49,799uaw the track, you can goup. Interest rates stop going up.27800:23:51,039 --> 00:23:52,480The markets can go up. Therecould be a lot of things that cause27900:23:52,519 --> 00:23:56,680it go up. But once itruns out of steam because we don't have28000:23:56,799 --> 00:24:02,920enough money to keep putting new moneyin, because we're in a quantitative tightening,28100:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,519not easing situation that's there. Andwhen they were lower rates, they28200:24:07,559 --> 00:24:11,079start lowering rates, which everyone isexpecting. It sometimes gets what's gonna happen?28300:24:11,559 --> 00:24:14,680That means we are falling off thecliff. And when we're in a28400:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,119recession, we'll be back. Ican't tell you how much I appreciate that28500:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,359you guys listen and call and comesee us, and those of who do28600:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,359business with us, that's fantastic.We'll be right back. It is the28700:24:26,359 --> 00:24:45,400money Matty Show say. It's alla welcome back. Everybody Sunday Morning Money28800:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,279Matty Show, Dave, Dylan Todd, and myself. Dam We'll talk to28900:24:49,279 --> 00:24:52,799you for the next hour and ahalf. We'll talk a lot about the29000:24:52,839 --> 00:24:55,559markets. Obviously, this week wasnot good. Last week was not good.29100:24:55,559 --> 00:24:59,400September it is not good. It'sweird how this happens. You know,29200:24:59,519 --> 00:25:04,039it's not It's not always that way, but most times when the market's29300:25:04,039 --> 00:25:07,240full it's August, September, October, yeah it is, but they usually29400:25:07,279 --> 00:25:11,079set up a good buying opportunity tothe end of the year when this happens.29500:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,000Can't say it's gonna happen. Itnot happen, but it's kind of29600:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,920getting stretched again. The only newsthat was out there interest rates are gonna29700:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,720stay higher for longer. We knowthat. Don't you find it interesting that29800:25:23,759 --> 00:25:27,559the market appears shocked at that.We've been talking about that for a week29900:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,319on the show, that interest ratesare going to go higher. They're gonna30000:25:32,319 --> 00:25:36,359stay higher longer. The thing whenPowell said that he's not going to raise30100:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,200rates, but more rate hikes arecoming, I thought, yeah, that's30200:25:38,319 --> 00:25:42,000I know, and everybody went,but here's the thing he's saying that to30300:25:42,079 --> 00:25:45,240keep the door open. I wishhe would say right now, we don't30400:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,519want to raise rates. We wantto see what's happening. We see we30500:25:48,559 --> 00:25:51,319see it on both sides. Wesee some months that we have inflation going30600:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,000down, but on the other sidewe see some the unemployment numbers. If30700:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,519we have to raise rates, we'regoing to do it. The one thing30800:25:56,559 --> 00:25:59,839I can say to you, though, is we'll probably not going to be30900:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,119own rates for a while. Golden'sacts pretty good firm, right, yeah,31000:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,680mindy Goldman SACS. As the Fedsdone raising rates period, Yeah,31100:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,440done raising rates, Golden SACS.Now, I'm guessing their theory is that31200:26:11,440 --> 00:26:18,119the market or the economy is goingto continue to slow, but at a31300:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,359faster pace. That's what the FEDwants. The FED wants, the Fed31400:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,720likes the way the economy is slowing, because it is slowing, but they'd31500:26:25,759 --> 00:26:29,440like it to slow at a fasterpace. But even with its slowing,31600:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,119we still have a positive GDP number, no question. In fact, wasn't31700:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,359it the Fed that raised it fromone point one to two point one exactly?31800:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,240And their initial reading was so interestingwhen the dot plots came out,31900:26:40,279 --> 00:26:44,400and what their expectations were because initiallythe market did not react on the sell32000:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,440off. It was kind of holdingin there, and then all of a32100:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,920sudden, in the middle of Jerome'spress conference, you just see this this32200:26:51,039 --> 00:26:53,200sell off occur. And I don'tknow if there was a certain question that32300:26:53,279 --> 00:26:57,880spooke to Martin's markets, but itseemed like Powell was not as consistent with32400:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,319all of this other fed met memberson the dot plots. It seems like32500:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,240he is a little more hawkish thanwhat the dot plots were showing. That32600:27:04,279 --> 00:27:07,799was a little surprising to the market. Friday, it was kind of interesting32700:27:07,839 --> 00:27:11,200after a very weak Thursday. Ofcourse, it started on Wednesday, Dean32800:27:11,599 --> 00:27:15,279Thursday got was the worst day ofthe week, and then Friday the market32900:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,160opens up higher and actually starts togain some momentum. And we know from33000:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,359doing this for a long time thatyou don't have a huge down day followed33100:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,440by an up opening that holds itjust it just doesn't well, yeah,33200:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,160two down days in a row.Yeah, but you don't have a big33300:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,319down day like Thursday and then haveFriday or the market opens up in a33400:27:33,319 --> 00:27:36,880way we'll go to the upside.That just doesn't happen. Yeah, more33500:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,039often than not, it'll open upand then it'll be a sell off,33600:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,240especially going into a weekend. Twoand it took a whole day until the33700:27:41,319 --> 00:27:44,680end of the day on Friday,and finally at the end of the day33800:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,200the down one hundred sp downtown exactly. Yeah, Hey, another reason too33900:27:48,279 --> 00:27:52,359Coldman Sachs might be saying that theFED might be done raising races because they34000:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,680came out an interesting thing about creditcard debt issues with these credit card companies34100:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,240seeing the highest rate, the rackingup the highest losses at the fast pace34200:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,680in almost thirty years, which meansthey're having more people be delinquent on their34300:28:03,759 --> 00:28:07,480monthly payments. And these pm we'restill seeing credit car already increases. There34400:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,200are the debt. It's over atrillion dollars for the first time ever.34500:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,279They're seeing this go up from threepoint three percent or three point six percent.34600:28:15,279 --> 00:28:18,279They don't see it stopping until aboutfive percent of delinquent payments. So34700:28:18,319 --> 00:28:22,119people are still racking up debt,so they're gonna have to stop paying,34800:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,640which might slow the economy down initself event eventually run out of credit the34900:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,799buying power rate well, exactly,and that's what they're saying. That's probably35000:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,279where they're getting that idea from thatthey're going to be done raising rates because35100:28:30,279 --> 00:28:33,440all these people have this credit carddebt that eventually they can't go buy new35200:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,640things. They got to pay thisoff before they can do anything, or35300:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,599they just don't and they have nomoney, they go broke. Well,35400:28:37,599 --> 00:28:41,799it's also another problem, okay,and he knows that when we happened in35500:28:41,880 --> 00:28:47,640the spring, right, you raiserates, you're creating problems for banks when35600:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,200you raise them too fast because theirloans on the books are not going up35700:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,240that fast. Two expenses are goingup. They can't not one that whatever35800:28:53,279 --> 00:28:57,039money they're bringing in to give outloans, they have to pay more money35900:28:57,039 --> 00:29:00,400for it. It's a real problem. A big bank you can spread the36000:29:00,519 --> 00:29:07,000risk medium size, which is whathappened, and lower and smaller banks problems36100:29:07,079 --> 00:29:10,400all you just don't end up givingout any loans. And to that point,36200:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,000the FED has been increasing rates ata very fast pace. And the36300:29:15,119 --> 00:29:18,440idea is there's a lack to theimpacts that are actually going to be felt36400:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,160on the economy that they're finally goingto hit the economy. Oxford Economics pretty36500:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,000good firm. They're not a firm, but it's a school of thought.36600:29:26,079 --> 00:29:29,400Right, the maximum impact of thefed's tightening, they say, is going36700:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,440to be felt over the next coupleof quarters, the quarter four of twenty36800:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,960three, quarter one of twenty four, and so that's something to look at36900:29:36,000 --> 00:29:41,079two where we might actually see someas Goldman Sachs as actual increase of decreasing37000:29:41,119 --> 00:29:45,400of the economy growth. One ofthe things I do, as just a37100:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,319matter of course, is when Italk to a businessman, a self employed37200:29:49,359 --> 00:29:55,440person, I'll always ask him how'sbusiness. It's just carried how's business?37300:29:55,480 --> 00:30:02,279And I'm hearing across the board businessis great. Skill from from general contractors37400:30:02,319 --> 00:30:06,000it was in our office today,to a buddy of mine that does specialized37500:30:06,039 --> 00:30:11,960concrete products, to a restaurant tourI talked to last week. Everyone says37600:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,160business is FED. Does not wantto hear that. Yeah, FED does37700:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,119not want to hear the business isgood and the GDP is going from one37800:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,559point one to two point one.Well, it depends what business too.37900:30:21,559 --> 00:30:25,039I mean, technology has been sellinghas been laying off people. Right,38000:30:26,359 --> 00:30:29,640you start seeing more people. Theone thing I've been hearing from people their38100:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,000own businesses, they're not hiring.They might not be laying off people yet,38200:30:33,039 --> 00:30:37,799but they're not hiring, and theydon't force sea hiring in the near38300:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,920future. And that's because they realizethat they can see a slowdown possibly coming38400:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,200and they don't want to be stuckpaying more salaries and training and do all38500:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,839that stuff unless they need to.I'm absolutely hearing that exact thing. We're38600:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,160not seeing the help wanted signs onevery single building anymore. Yeah, I38700:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,079mean, the vacancies are definitely arrowed, but there is still more job postings38800:31:02,079 --> 00:31:06,000than their art labors. And I'malso hearing from from friends who are working38900:31:06,079 --> 00:31:08,720that they're doing the job of twoor three people, you know, so39000:31:10,119 --> 00:31:11,839we have to because you give themmore money out Wages have gone up.39100:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,920Yes, you're gonna expect more frompeople. It's amazing how much more people39200:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,599can do that want to work.No, it's gonna be interesting is if39300:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,960California passes that law with raising minimumways of twenty dollars for the fast food39400:31:23,039 --> 00:31:26,519chains, if they start laying offa bunch of employees and just go with39500:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,359robots or just do it automated andhave one employee, if that's going to39600:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,720increase the unemployment a lot. Well, and McDonald's was down last week because39700:31:34,759 --> 00:31:40,039of that dealing you, the CaliforniaState Senate passed a bill to raise the39800:31:40,079 --> 00:31:42,880minimum waste to twenty bucks an hourfor fast food workers. I remember he's39900:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,759kidding talking. Yeah, I know, he just explaining it, Yeah exactly.40000:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,400I'm just giving details, yeah exactly, And we talked about it last40100:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,359week. But yeah, those arethe details of it. And that's why40200:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,440if they start firing employees because Ijust can't afford twenty alls an hour for40300:31:53,519 --> 00:31:57,319ten employees. Instead, they'll havethree and use machines to just cook the40400:31:57,519 --> 00:32:01,200food, and they oversee the machines, that's going to increase unemployment. One40500:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,119of my clients just got back froma trip to England and they said they40600:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,920were in a McDonald's in London andthere were the placeless packed. They said40700:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,839there were four employees, Three werecooking food, one was calling out numbers.40800:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,880You wanted food, get to thekiosk. And then and Dylan to40900:32:17,039 --> 00:32:21,680that point as well. Indeed,came out with report last week that says41000:32:21,839 --> 00:32:24,440the higher the odds are that ajob can be done remotely, the greater41100:32:24,559 --> 00:32:30,000its potential exposure to JENI driven change. So for these people that are working41200:32:30,119 --> 00:32:34,480from home. Those jobs are easilyable to be replaced through AI, and41300:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,200so that could be another increase ofunemployment rate, is if those people are41400:32:38,359 --> 00:32:43,440replaced with just AI. Well,wait, we know from Dean that the41500:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,680wage inflation is extremely stubborn. Dean, you talked about this a year ago,41600:32:47,359 --> 00:32:52,480that wage inflation is extremely stubborn.Automation is one of the things that41700:32:52,559 --> 00:32:57,680can help break that break that cycle. October six is the next Labor report,41800:32:57,759 --> 00:32:59,880and that's gonna be a real bigdot, a point for the Fed41900:33:00,119 --> 00:33:02,720to see where we are currently.And then Friday is coming. Friday,42000:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,720we have the PC report, theinflation, a couple of big reports.42100:33:07,799 --> 00:33:09,759I mean, I'll just give youthe perspective from an owner of a firm42200:33:09,960 --> 00:33:16,039right and different businesses I own.If you feel there's a slow down coming,42300:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,400you see that you're going to slowdown your revenues, You're not apt42400:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,039to step up and be giving wages, increases and bonuses right now because you42500:33:24,079 --> 00:33:28,079feel like you have to keep thecash because you've gone through it before,42600:33:28,839 --> 00:33:30,680you know. But when things thatyou're having a good year, and this42700:33:30,799 --> 00:33:36,079is happening across America, everyone expectsmore money and if they don't get the42800:33:36,079 --> 00:33:38,079money. They're getting upset. Butboy, when things go down, they42900:33:38,119 --> 00:33:42,480don't expect to get less money.Yeah, and that's where that's where the43000:33:42,599 --> 00:33:45,880problem is. And you know,and that's why you always have that split43100:33:45,960 --> 00:33:51,160between management and and and and workers. You know. Speaking of which Ford,43200:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,000uh you saw it probably saw onFriday, the UAW is going to43300:33:54,039 --> 00:33:59,960expand their strikes against GM and Stillantis, which is I guess Dodge Nowler,43400:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,599Yeah, that could go, butnot Ford. Ford is, according to43500:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,639the president of the UAW, Fordis serious about coming to an agreement.43600:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,519They're not going to strike the Fone fifty plant, which was which was43700:34:14,599 --> 00:34:17,760one of the big concerns. That'stheir big money maker. So we'll see.43800:34:19,119 --> 00:34:22,719And what they're using, the UAWpresident's using what Ford is saying yes43900:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,440to against GM and Silantis, sayingFord is doing this. You guys got44000:34:27,519 --> 00:34:30,760to do this, and until youdo, we're gonna keep increasing our strikes.44100:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,800And that's why they're going to thirtyeight more plants or thirty eight more44200:34:34,039 --> 00:34:37,360parts and distribution locations, which isn'twhere they assemble the actual car, so44300:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,679that's not gonna be hurt. Whatthis is gonna hurt is your repair time.44400:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,800If like the dealerships can't get therepair the parts where this comes from,44500:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,960that's what's gonna start taking longer.So it's gonna hit people rather than44600:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,880just get a new car assembled,it's gonna hurt people who are trying to44700:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,519get their car repaired and the dealershipsin towns in different across the country.44800:34:55,679 --> 00:35:01,559Interestingly, Ford has the most UAWworkers, the most union workers. You44900:35:01,599 --> 00:35:05,880know, people don't remember getting it. Was it not long ago. GM.45000:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,840When bankrupt, you can do theycan agree to all this stuff.45100:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,800The problem is it's none of thetop management that will agree to it.45200:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,079If the company goes bankrupt, getshurt, we get a bill out of45300:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,320tax people because we can't let theauto industry go down, you know,45400:35:23,679 --> 00:35:30,880and it constantly, constantly people wantbut don't realize how it affects everybody else.45500:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,079Like I said, when it's good, they want more, and when45600:35:32,119 --> 00:35:35,760he's bad, they don't want togive it back. Yeah, So that's45700:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,599why wage inflation is so sticky.It's just it's hard to give somebody.45800:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,920It's easy to give a raid,hard to give a cut and pay and45900:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,119pay a little hard once way justall going up. You know, inflation46000:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,079is not going to really come down. All right, we'll be right back.46100:35:49,199 --> 00:35:52,360We appreciate your listening. This isthe Money Matter Show every Sunday morning,46200:35:52,559 --> 00:36:02,480right here on seven ninety Kandasy sayit's all a name. We'll back46300:36:02,559 --> 00:36:07,320gets the Money by the shelf,Dean, Dylan, Todd and Dave.46400:36:07,559 --> 00:36:13,320We have three d's in that yourealized dd we have to change Todd's name.46500:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,239For those just tuning in, we'vebeen DDT is actually a really cool46600:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,679wrestling move, so maybe it wasjust DDC. Yeah, it's also a46700:36:21,400 --> 00:36:28,360sexicide. Okay, M cool.Well thirty we're going on thirty four years46800:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,079safe, thirty four years be thirtyfour years doing the show. Wow,46900:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,039that's amazing. That's amazing, andI'm not bored of it. Yeah,47000:36:37,159 --> 00:36:40,800no, never to talk about everyweek. That's what makes this job so47100:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,480fun is every week's different. Everyweek is totally different than the week before,47200:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,480always going to be a more.The line's gonna keep drawing. Yeah,47300:36:49,599 --> 00:36:51,880that's it's nice. It's crazy.I mean, it's it's not like47400:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,199the government. You know the governmenthas one topic, right, COVID one47500:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,440one, only one thing they cantalk about. Did you see where the47600:36:59,599 --> 00:37:04,880cd SEE is recommending vaccines for everyoneage six months and up. Yeah,47700:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,159And I'm sitting there going, areyou serious? Six Yeah, I'm gonna47800:37:07,159 --> 00:37:10,760give my nine month old a COVIDvaccine. I don't think you're gonna give47900:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,400yourself a COVID vaccine. Yeah.I cannot believe they're even talking about it48000:37:15,519 --> 00:37:20,320right now. Fiser is expecting atwenty four percent vaccination rate. Flu shots48100:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,400are typically fifty percent percent of peopleget a flu shot. The government's not48200:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,360paying for them anymore, though,so that's kind of innesting. Here's here's48300:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,559this blew me away. The lastweek Biden, I saw, I saw48400:37:30,599 --> 00:37:32,599a home Oh no, COVID tests, not COVID Okay, okay, So48500:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,239this is after where I'm going Dan. Last last week, Biden said that48600:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,719starting next week, you'll be ableto get up to four free home testing48700:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,360kits from the government. We stoppedthat program in January of twenty twenty two,48800:37:49,199 --> 00:37:52,880almost two years ago. Now we'regonna crank it back up again.48900:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,800Bring on the mask, let's go. What's coming up next year? Good?49000:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,679Great? Yeah, good point,doing good point man. Gearing up49100:38:00,719 --> 00:38:06,679the freaking everything for COVID against I'min talk about inflation though, I mean,49200:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,239that's not gonna help those Those testsaren't free. Someone's gonna have to49300:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,800pay for that. Oh yeah,sure, Yeah, we don't have any49400:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,559problems with the money though. Atthe federal government levels, we'll got plenty49500:38:15,599 --> 00:38:19,599of money. Well not apparently,because there's that looming government shutdown, right,49600:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,119that's gonna they're gonna. I thinkthey're gonna shut down absolutely because it49700:38:22,159 --> 00:38:25,880doesn't affect us paying the bills,but it makes it. It makes us49800:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,639stand saying guys, this is ridiculous. The board is ridiculous. The way49900:38:30,639 --> 00:38:32,559you're spending money is ridiculous. Andwe're not going to go ahead and give50000:38:32,599 --> 00:38:36,639you what you need. And thendo you know what the west part of50100:38:36,679 --> 00:38:42,760the shutdown is. They don't losemoney. The money's just deferred. You50200:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,039don't get paid while it's on,right, but they give you they make50300:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,599up the money down the road.Correct. Now. I just want to50400:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,440are you able to go on governmentassistance while the government shut down get paid50500:38:52,519 --> 00:38:57,360late dividends from the millions of dollarsthey're making the stock market. Yeah,50600:38:57,559 --> 00:39:00,880but it's a concern for federal employees, you know, and and other you50700:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,639know you can not. We alwaystalk about the fact that a lot of50800:39:02,639 --> 00:39:06,960Americans don't have five hundred two thousanddollars saved up if they needed to make50900:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,760a bill or a payments. Ifyou don't have your income for a week51000:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,840or two weeks, that could bedrastic for certain individuals, will be huge.51100:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,320And then and then they'll come upwith some way of fronting on the51200:39:15,400 --> 00:39:21,119money or something like that. It'snot fair in reality. Just it's not51300:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,880fair to the federal employees that theydon't even have a choice or whether or51400:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,480not they should shut down. Right, but you know who should not get51500:39:27,519 --> 00:39:32,960paid? Right? Congo should neverget paid if they can't balance the budget.51600:39:34,199 --> 00:39:36,639No, it's job, Yeah,it's their job. Imagine if you're51700:39:36,679 --> 00:39:39,559the CEO of a company and everyyear you in and year out you lost51800:39:39,599 --> 00:39:43,440money, you'd be fired be fightso quickly, I thok, you paid51900:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,519for doing absolutely nothing except fighting witheach other. Or are they trying to52000:39:46,519 --> 00:39:49,679get their job again for the nextthat's all they do, that's all the52100:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,840five for one year. Then theytry to get their job again for another52200:39:51,920 --> 00:39:52,960year. And it's just a cyclethat they do for eighty years. Because52300:39:52,960 --> 00:40:00,119there's no term limits, impeachment inquiries, and just an endless nonsense. But52400:40:00,239 --> 00:40:05,000people should know that we've had twentygovernment shutdown since nineteen seventy six. The52500:40:05,079 --> 00:40:07,639average return for the SMP five hundredand the average shutdown last eight days.52600:40:07,679 --> 00:40:12,199By the way, the average returnfor the SP five hundred is exactly zero52700:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,960percent. So there is no impacton stocks from a government shutdown. And52800:40:15,079 --> 00:40:17,880it goes down for US and thencomes back up and it's flat. And52900:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,360I think this is really important tosocial security checks and government bond payments,53000:40:22,519 --> 00:40:28,760interest payments not impacted, right,not impacted, the essential services, military,53100:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,800et cetera, not impacted. Right. So the Dean's right, it's53200:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,320it's kind of a it just kindof becomes a game of chicken, and53300:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,880you're right, Todd, normally aweek, you know. Yeah, And53400:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,679but the social secrity is a goodpoint to bring up because next month,53500:40:39,719 --> 00:40:45,480week, well two months from now, we'll get the September CPI, that's53600:40:45,519 --> 00:40:47,800the CPI that they use for thecola into the next year. I was53700:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,159reading an article on social security overthe week and it was talking about those53800:40:52,199 --> 00:40:57,280two potential solutions, one from aRepublican and one for Democrat. The Republicans,53900:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,760says they want to raise one pointfive trillion dollars, put it in54000:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,440a new trust fund, which isSocial Security. That's where they supplement right54100:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,760now. They've got a bunch oftrust funds, but those are the ones54200:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,599that are going to be depleted bytwenty thirty four if Congress doesn't do anything,54300:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,599and that's what you always hear onthe news. So they're trying to54400:41:10,639 --> 00:41:14,800start a new one. Put itin the stock market like a regular pension54500:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,760fund that companies do, and tryand get the six seven percent return so54600:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,920they can keep up with inflation,more than the current trust funds, which54700:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,800are only in treasuries, which historicallyonly pay roughly one to two percent.54800:41:24,159 --> 00:41:28,079And that's why they're following behind.So he wants to put it in the54900:41:28,159 --> 00:41:30,400stock market that will come up inhis plan is to come up with seventy55000:41:30,440 --> 00:41:36,000percent of the needed extra needed moneyand then thirty percent they have to figure55100:41:36,039 --> 00:41:39,440something out, is what he said. The Democrat wants to raise taxes shocker.55200:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,159He wants to increase the Social Securitypayroll tax for everybody, and then55300:41:44,199 --> 00:41:49,280he also wants to add an additionalinvestment income tax for taxpayers earning over four55400:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,920hundred thousand dollars. And this wouldproposal is not just trying to fix the55500:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,159first problem, which is Social Securitychecks going out. He wants to increase55600:41:55,199 --> 00:41:59,920it by two percent across the board, while also making benefits for more general55700:42:00,119 --> 00:42:04,000for others, including long term beneficiaries, widows, independent children who are students.55800:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,920So we already have a problem.This guy wants to just keep increasing55900:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,880taxes and just keep adding other peopleto it, even though we already have56000:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,440a problem with the people that arecurrently getting it swing that it's going to56100:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,159deplete and how often it is asolution to get money from the get more56200:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,840money from the people who are alreadypaid ninety percent of access, right,56300:42:20,079 --> 00:42:23,280Yeah, exactly, it's ridiculous.It is ridiculous. And that's and it's56400:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,079a whole scare about that. They'reif it doesn't come, they're gonna cut56500:42:27,119 --> 00:42:30,480Social Security benefits by twenty percent inthe next decade. Okay, so that'll56600:42:30,559 --> 00:42:32,719get them to do something. Goodluck with that. And we haven't talked56700:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,039about I bonds in a while,but that again, that September rate is56800:42:37,079 --> 00:42:39,760going to be a big thing fortheir new interest rate. That's gonna be56900:42:39,960 --> 00:42:46,480Unfortunately, the social Security. No, the I bonds every six months yet57000:42:47,039 --> 00:42:51,199I haven't checked. All I'm sayingis that's that's a big month on that.57100:42:51,639 --> 00:42:53,280Remember that was all the rage,right, well year and a half,57200:42:53,559 --> 00:42:58,320yeah, because unfortunately the government doesn'ttell you that it fluctuates with inflation.57300:42:58,559 --> 00:43:00,119Right, So when you thought youbought a nine per sent I bond57400:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,639two years ago or last year andyou were locked in, you're not locked57500:43:04,639 --> 00:43:07,079in. You change every six months, and when inflation is going down,57600:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,079your teress race getting You can rememberit's the rate of inflation plus or minus57700:43:12,199 --> 00:43:15,960the change this last one. Sothis time it's going to be three minus57800:43:16,119 --> 00:43:22,760three. That's pretty close to zeroexactly, And that's CPI. The CPI57900:43:23,199 --> 00:43:28,159six six months ago was probably six, right, five or six, say58000:43:28,199 --> 00:43:31,440five, So now it's three anda half. So you're gonna get one58100:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,480and a half. So you're ninenow is one and a half? Right.58200:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,679We warned people not to buy thesebonds six months ago, and obviously58300:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,599that this is not the time tobuy right now. In the ten year58400:43:43,639 --> 00:43:46,079you can get four point four three. Well, and we've got we've got58500:43:46,199 --> 00:43:52,400some some two three four year treasuriesand corpus that are well above five.58600:43:52,239 --> 00:43:57,519Had one the other day, athree year bond that was five point eight58700:43:57,679 --> 00:44:00,199on a double A rated. Alright, so we throw all this out.58800:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,360We talk about stocks, you're talkingabout bombs. You do this. You58900:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,920can't just at hots, just doit. There's a way to do this.59000:44:07,119 --> 00:44:08,840You have to have a plan.We always talk about the plan,59100:44:09,360 --> 00:44:15,679always, more and more and more. Now a plan is so much more59200:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,719important than the actual investment you're goingto make later on, because that investment59300:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,840you're gonna make later on, itis all part of the plan and you're59400:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,519with stolerance, but also the plan. You know, we talk about plan59500:44:28,599 --> 00:44:30,639all the time, and I thinkwe don't spend enough time on something that59600:44:31,440 --> 00:44:37,840is centered around is the goals.Right, The whole plan is centered around59700:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,679your goals, and that's going tobe completely different for every single certain individual59800:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,320family, depending on their own values, their own vision, and where they59900:44:45,360 --> 00:44:52,639see themselves going forward. So identifyingand just describing your savings goals is typically60000:44:52,679 --> 00:44:55,199one of the first steps in thefinancial planning process. And you'd be surprised.60100:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,800We have a lot of people comein and they don't really have a60200:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,039number in their head how much theywant an income in retirement because a lot60300:45:02,079 --> 00:45:06,400of times they don't know. Andthat's a fair point as well, but60400:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,559you should have at least an idea. Do I want the same standard of60500:45:08,639 --> 00:45:13,039living currently when in my retirement,or would I like eighty percent? Or60600:45:13,039 --> 00:45:15,440would do I want to double mystandard of living currently in retirement. Those60700:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,880are goals you need to think aboutnow because they're going to drastically impact what60800:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,719decisions need to be made today.Yeah. A big one with that is60900:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,400that they keep the same amount ofaverage monthly spending and say it's five thousand61000:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,280dollars a month right now while you'reworking. It tends to stay about five61100:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,079thousand dollars a month when you're retired. The only thing that's added to it61200:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,800is extra traveling because you've got moretime, So your expenses might go up61300:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,679in retirement, and that's something youwant to look at before you jump into61400:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,800retirement and just go by ad hoclike you were saying. But when you're61500:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,039planning to go into a timement,sure you might reduce your income on what61600:45:47,119 --> 00:45:52,079you're doing and all the way ifyou don't work at all, but then61700:45:52,119 --> 00:45:53,679you're adding back because you're going toget soci security at one time. But61800:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,320you have to decide when you're goingto take social Security. That's important.61900:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,079If you're time at sixty at socialsecurity is going to be quite different if62000:46:00,119 --> 00:46:04,719you don't wait to full retirement ageor if you wait till seventy dependent.62100:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,079You have to make up that incomedifference. Is it going to be from62200:46:08,119 --> 00:46:10,920your investments? What can you planon the investments where the other money is62300:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,639going to come? Now, that'smy point, Dean, is it's so62400:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,119important to actually understand your expenses becauseI have many people come into the door62500:46:17,119 --> 00:46:21,000and they say I'm spending three thousanddollars and I'm like, okay, well62600:46:21,119 --> 00:46:22,679you have eight thousand coming in thedoor each month and you're saying you're only62700:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,239spending three thousand, So where's theother five thousand going? Are you saving62800:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,599and investing five thousand dollars per month? And every single time the person says,62900:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,159no, I guess I am spendingmore. Right, So actually sit63000:46:34,199 --> 00:46:37,599down and look exactly though exactly makeyou do that. It's painful because you63100:46:37,599 --> 00:46:39,960don't want to admit it. Butonce you get it, you put a63200:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,880smile on your face. You knowwhat, You put a smile on your63300:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,320face, because we'll figure out howyou're going to get that money, be63400:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,920able to live on that money,and relieve all the stress and the ups63500:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,519and the downs and everything else thatgoes on. You know what's funny,63600:46:52,559 --> 00:46:55,280The people that do the plan rightand kind of say, okay, I'm63700:46:55,320 --> 00:47:02,039going to get the income stream areless stress stout then those that say I63800:47:02,159 --> 00:47:06,639don't need this money and just putit in and invest it because I wanted63900:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,760to make more. They're the onesthat get so scared when the markets go64000:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,639down, not the ones that putthe plan together, that understand it's gonna64100:47:13,639 --> 00:47:15,639go down, it's gonna go up. But as long as they're getting their64200:47:15,639 --> 00:47:19,320income each time, they're happy.I haven't seen any one of our clients64300:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,719come out of the financial planning processwith anything but a smile on their faces.64400:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,400Not one. You guys are doinga great it doesn't always work out64500:47:24,480 --> 00:47:29,119because they expect the market the rallyall the time, and it doesn't sure,64600:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,400you know, and so and thenwe go from there. All right,64700:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,480we'll be right back. We gotthe hard break coming up. As64800:47:34,679 --> 00:47:37,039I always keep telling you, youguys, listen, is why we do64900:47:37,199 --> 00:47:40,320the show. I wouldn't do itbefore us a few guys. You we65000:47:40,440 --> 00:47:45,079get a lot of good compliments.You guys, we help you. Helping65100:47:45,519 --> 00:47:47,440is the name of the game.We'll be right back say it's all a65200:47:47,719 --> 00:47:54,719name. Welcome back. Everybody's sickernow with the money by the show.65300:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,199Remember we just don't hear us.Now you can hear us any time you65400:47:59,320 --> 00:48:04,239want. We we have them allon our website. If you want to65500:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,760go back and listen from three weeksago, five weeks ago, five months65600:48:07,840 --> 00:48:12,079ago, I'm five months on,yeah, five months ago on. Uh,65700:48:12,199 --> 00:48:15,320you go back and listen. It'lltell you what we've been talking about.65800:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,599You can fact check us if youwant. I'm okay, I'm not65900:48:17,679 --> 00:48:22,360always right, but there's a lotof times we are. You can talk66000:48:22,440 --> 00:48:27,159and hear listen about what we're talking. But we also do an interesting thing66100:48:27,280 --> 00:48:34,519on Saturdays, three to half hourmore shows with a host and myself asking66200:48:34,639 --> 00:48:37,360questions, talking about stuff, talkingabout planning. If you don't catch those,66300:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,280or you can catch it and youlike it, you can listen to66400:48:39,360 --> 00:48:45,880more on the radio also, andwe're gonna start back up on KBOA after66500:48:45,960 --> 00:48:52,280the News on Sunday nights with somegood, good information too. Yeah,66600:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,920those are all more of the holisticfinancial planning TV shows rather than more current66700:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,440events like we do with this show. Because we record this one every week,66800:48:59,559 --> 00:49:01,320those are re recorded, so it'smore of the whole idea of what66900:49:01,400 --> 00:49:06,400financial planning and investing is with factoidsabout it. But coming in the second67000:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,599hour, I know people tune infor the second hour, so we'll go67100:49:07,679 --> 00:49:10,480over what happened last week, whichwas just another down week. The Dow67200:49:10,599 --> 00:49:14,920was down two percent, the SMPfive hundred was down three percent, the67300:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,199NASDAC was down three and a halfpercent, and the Wrestle two thousand was67400:49:17,239 --> 00:49:22,079down almost four percent. Equal weightedSMP five hundred, which we've been watching67500:49:22,119 --> 00:49:24,639closely this year because of the sevenstocks I really have been taking off the67600:49:24,679 --> 00:49:30,039SMP five hundred equalated SMP five hundredwas down over three percent, so it's67700:49:30,039 --> 00:49:32,760actually down more than the regular SMP. So that's showing that the marker was67800:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,960just down as a whole. AndI want to spend some time on the67900:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,320equalated because I found some really interestingstuff about it. Right now, the68000:49:39,440 --> 00:49:45,079valuation gap between the top seven stocksand the SPW, which is the equated,68100:49:45,039 --> 00:49:50,760is the highest level since the techbubble obviously suggesting more upside two thousand68200:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,679and one. Since two thousand andone, and that's the top seven stocks68300:49:53,760 --> 00:49:59,639market cap by the median trailing Pof the SMP, so the valuation gap68400:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,360is never been bigger. Uh theseIf you take the top six stocks,68500:50:02,440 --> 00:50:08,280they trade at thirty five times trailingtwelve months earnings. So if you take68600:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,119them out of the s and Pfive hundred, the remaining four hundred and68700:50:12,679 --> 00:50:16,320ninety two stocks, they say tradeat seventeen times earning. From that angle,68800:50:16,599 --> 00:50:21,440the market seem, you know,valuable, right, It's like,68900:50:21,519 --> 00:50:25,679Okay, that reality comes back,but just shows that those six stocks change69000:50:25,719 --> 00:50:31,559the game. I mean, it'snot even close. And it's very important69100:50:31,639 --> 00:50:36,960to keep in mind that when yousee this huge variation, it's likely that69200:50:37,039 --> 00:50:40,559the equal weighted SMP will outperform.And it's so hard to even imagine that69300:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,760right now because we're just not inthat environment. I mean, the top69400:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,920seven stocks have just killed everything else. To imagine a value stock outperforming a69500:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,880mega in the next year, it'svery hard. We've got a combination of69600:50:53,280 --> 00:50:58,679value equal weighted SMP five hundred andshort term fixed income. You're down for69700:50:58,760 --> 00:51:04,159the year, right you're down forthe year as of as of last Friday,69800:51:04,199 --> 00:51:07,119and so picking that today is ahard thing to do, very difficult,69900:51:07,320 --> 00:51:12,400very difficult. I want to talka little bit about Raytheon near and70000:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,239dear to our hearts. We've gotan awfully a lot of clients who are70100:51:15,719 --> 00:51:22,239Raytheon employees, Raytheon retirees. Welove Raytheon in Tucson, Arizona. And70200:51:22,840 --> 00:51:28,719the stock is just getting obliterated hita three year low. Continues to be70300:51:28,840 --> 00:51:35,159concerns about the Pratt and Whitney enginesand the manufacturing defect. We thought originally70400:51:35,320 --> 00:51:40,280that there would it was about afive hundred million dollar problem. Raytheon last70500:51:40,320 --> 00:51:46,360week said they're going to set asidethree billion dollars. There are no analysts70600:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,159who have stepped up at the plateat this point and said, yeah,70700:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,880you gotta you gotta look at thestock. There's now a class action lawsuit.70800:51:55,559 --> 00:51:59,760This is talk about picky lawyers,right, This is a class action70900:52:00,119 --> 00:52:04,760stood for those people that lost fivehundred thousand dollars or more. If you71000:52:04,840 --> 00:52:10,119didn't lose five hundred thousand dollars,don't call I mean talk about they got71100:52:10,199 --> 00:52:15,519so much class action stuff out therethat they're narrated down to five hundred thousand71200:52:15,519 --> 00:52:20,400dollars. But I'll look for ananalyst to step forward stocks thirty one percent71300:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,840off, it's fifty two week high, and we hit that fifty two week71400:52:22,920 --> 00:52:28,159high one month ago. Today stillhas an average price rating of around ninety71500:52:28,199 --> 00:52:30,880one dollars to share us so welloff and the target price of ninety one.71600:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,679I've been saying. I think we'vebeen saying for a couple of weeks71700:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,760that maybe there'd be a washout lowthat would take it below seventy, where71800:52:40,519 --> 00:52:45,800I believe it's awfully attractive. We'llsee. I'd like to see some analysts71900:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,239start to come out of the woodworkand say, yeah, you really got72000:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,159to be looking at this stock now. Yeah, I mean, it just72100:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,559keeps reminding us. Like we saidlast week, it's just bowing. It72200:52:54,599 --> 00:52:58,320reminds us a bowing how it wasdown in the dumps and just kept going72300:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,639down. Nobody wanted it at thetime. Prior to its issues. When72400:53:00,880 --> 00:53:06,119the plane crashes the engine, theMax seven thirty seven Max issues, it72500:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,880was trading in roughly two hundred andthirty two hundred forty dollars to share.72600:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,199Then you have the two plane crashes. Then you have the seven thirty seven72700:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,039Max issues, and those were alot that lasted a lot longer than people72800:53:15,119 --> 00:53:17,360thought. So the stock went allthe way down to under on a hundred72900:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,679dollars and it was just down andout. Nobody wanted it. And now73000:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,679look it's back over two twenty orit was for a second. Obviously it's73100:53:23,679 --> 00:53:27,599gone down a little bit, butit's back to where people like it again.73200:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,039And that was only two and ahalf years ago. And the industry73300:53:30,119 --> 00:53:32,320is not going anywhere, no,no, nona be the wars ended.73400:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,679We just got another three hundred millionsgetting sent to Ukraine. Well, and73500:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,480like what you're saying, Pride andWhitney is a subsidiary of the company,73600:53:38,519 --> 00:53:42,760and that's they'd make plane engines.That's not going anywhere, right, you73700:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,559know, No, it'd be fineif they will work it out. If73800:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,559the question is how long did ittake? How much more down? Type73900:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,880is everybody wants to buy at thebottom, which you're probably not gonna do,74000:53:52,639 --> 00:53:55,039so you just your dollar cost average. Just one of those cases where74100:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,760you know, if you if youwanted to put a ten thousand dollars to74200:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,760work, maybe you buy thirty shareson on Monday, and then if it74300:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,880drops another five bucks, you buyanother thirty. For drops another five bucks,74400:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,119buy another thirty. Yeah. Wellit's like what you said right there.74500:54:08,119 --> 00:54:12,039I mean, and using the Bowingexample, everybody thought Bowen would come74600:54:12,079 --> 00:54:14,800back a lot quicker, and whenit didn't, that's when people didn't want74700:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,719to buy it anymore. They thoughtthe seven thirty seven max issues gonna last74800:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,679a month or two. It lastedalmost a year. Remember, go ahead,74900:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,519well I just before we leave thedefense area. I thought it was75000:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,719very fascinating that Zelenski made an appearancein the White House. And if you75100:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,119remember last year when he did this, he had a whole standing ovation,75200:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,440they had a speech, everyone wasgiving him claps. This time you didn't75300:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,320hear a peep, right, Andso I think there's a huge kind of75400:54:37,400 --> 00:54:42,760turn there where the Republicans are gettingfed up with continuously sending money when we75500:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,119still have a lot of domestic issuesabroad, and no one likes continuing more,75600:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,800at least if you're pro human right. War is not good for humans,75700:54:51,079 --> 00:54:54,880right, it's terrible, and socontinuously sending money instead of continuously sending75800:54:54,920 --> 00:54:59,000peace talks. It's kind of like, whoa what are we doing here?75900:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,480Right? Like, stand, wedon't like Russia, but also we don't76000:55:01,519 --> 00:55:06,239like death, so how can wecome to a conclusion. The other side76100:55:06,280 --> 00:55:12,000of that coin is allowing Russia totake Ukraine is completely unacceptable on anybody's in76200:55:12,079 --> 00:55:15,159anybody's world. So that's that's gottawe gotta do what it has to be76300:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,599done there. So it's it's interesting. Another stock that has got some news76400:55:19,679 --> 00:55:23,519this week was Tesla Monday morning.The stock is more than double this year76500:55:23,559 --> 00:55:28,039in all fairness, right, buton Monday, Goldman Sachs became the fourth76600:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,119firm this month to downgrade the stock. They've downgraded to a hold. As76700:55:32,239 --> 00:55:37,159with other downgrades. They remain constructiveon the future of the company, but76800:55:37,280 --> 00:55:42,280they believe that these repeated price cutswere seen maybe pointing to a slowing of76900:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,000demand. And we've talked about thison the show a number of times.77000:55:46,360 --> 00:55:52,880Eventually, we're going to get toa point where everyone who wants and can77100:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,719afford an electric car has one.However, if you remember last week,77200:55:57,039 --> 00:56:00,280the analysts price rating had nothing todo with cars at everything to do with77300:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,039their Level three chargers, the levelthrough charging. If that doesn't matter.77400:56:04,079 --> 00:56:06,960That's a good point. That's agood reminder, Todd, thank you that77500:56:07,119 --> 00:56:10,000the charging stations may be worth onehundred billion dollars, so that might make77600:56:10,079 --> 00:56:13,880up for the lack of car cells. Right a little bit, I'm gonna77700:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,000switch over to the Evy Garage,right, all right, we'll talk about77800:56:16,079 --> 00:56:19,960on the Evy Garage this weekend.And we've actually had a couple of clients77900:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,719say they really liked this segments,so we're just gonna do it a little78000:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,239bit this We're gonna talk about hybridsthis week. We all like the idea78100:56:25,280 --> 00:56:30,320of a hybrid, even Dean likesthe idea of a hybrid. But doesn't78200:56:30,360 --> 00:56:36,679that give you the best and theworst of both worlds? For instance,78300:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,159you can on a hybrid, youcan use the electric locally and then when78400:56:38,199 --> 00:56:42,639you go on long trips you cando the gas. But the trend lately78500:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,039is for these plug in hybrids,so where you have gas that you plug78600:56:46,119 --> 00:56:51,480it in to recharge your battery andthen you have gas for the longer trips.78700:56:52,199 --> 00:56:57,199The problem with that is you haveto then build a home charging station,78800:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,320right, which which costs you arounda thousand bucks. And tell you78900:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,400from personal experience by a thousand bucksto get the charger and have an electrician79000:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,559come out and put a two hundredand forty bolt receptacle in in and have79100:57:08,679 --> 00:57:10,840it all hooks up. That's abouta thousand bucks. And now you've got79200:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,519a plug in hybrid. Now,I was under the impression that would the79300:57:15,519 --> 00:57:17,880plug in hybrid would be good becauseyou'd be able to plug in. Maybe79400:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,519you can get a couple hundred milesout of the battery, and then then79500:57:21,599 --> 00:57:25,719the gas takes over the plug inhybrid and the regular hybrid range on the79600:57:25,760 --> 00:57:31,760battery is about twenty miles about twentymiles. What are you what are you79700:57:31,840 --> 00:57:36,960thinking? If you're buying a plugin hybrid, you've got to charge the79800:57:37,079 --> 00:57:39,320vehicle and you've got to fill upwith gas. So you've got the worst79900:57:39,719 --> 00:57:45,119of both worlds and you've gained virtuallynothing. Todd, I know you've driven80000:57:45,199 --> 00:57:51,400a hybrid for years and you thoughtthe plug in hybrids kind of like scratched80100:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,920the head or the plug in hybrids. It's it's just annoying because you have80200:57:54,039 --> 00:58:00,599two different sources. But the regulargas hybrid it's not meant for the electric80300:58:00,679 --> 00:58:04,320battery. So looking at it,like it only has twenty miles of range.80400:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,559It doesn't matter what range it has, it matters what kind of gas80500:58:07,679 --> 00:58:10,239mileage am I saving compared to aregular gas car. That's the point of80600:58:10,239 --> 00:58:14,159the gas hybrid. Well, butagain you've got one. You've got essentially80700:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,920one gallon of electric, so you'renot using a gallon. So if you've80800:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,079got a fifteen gallon, you've donethat transfer. Huh, you've done that80900:58:22,159 --> 00:58:25,800calculation transfer. Then now you've gota fourteen fifteen gallon tank. Right,81000:58:27,159 --> 00:58:30,159but that's as show me twenty milesto the gallon, right, so your81100:58:30,199 --> 00:58:32,320battery carrig you're twenty miles. Sothat's one gallon. I can say that81200:58:32,559 --> 00:58:37,159on a normal car like mine,I could probably outrange them by about one81300:58:37,239 --> 00:58:45,239hundred miles outrange what a regular gascar that my hybrid? Gohead, Okay,81400:58:45,559 --> 00:58:47,440but you don't have the plug inhybrid. No, I have the81500:58:47,480 --> 00:58:53,280regular gas hybrid. It's the hybrid. Art is our outselling the electric one81600:58:53,360 --> 00:58:58,639point seven to one, so peopleare more comfortable making taking like a half81700:58:58,679 --> 00:59:02,920step. We said that the overallpopulation of cars is like eight percent hybrid81800:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,559currently and there's four percent electric orsomething like that. I think it was81900:59:07,599 --> 00:59:10,800eight and five, but I didthe math last week at one point,82000:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,639so it still thirteen percent. Youknow, you're probably plug in hybrid is82100:59:15,679 --> 00:59:17,679probably one or two percent, right, so only a fifteen percent of the82200:59:17,760 --> 00:59:22,159overall car population is anything electric.I got a guy in the building that82300:59:22,360 --> 00:59:27,960bought got a Mercedes hybrid this pastweek, and it's not a plug in,82400:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,079it's a traditional hybrid. I guessI just don't understand the plug in82500:59:31,159 --> 00:59:35,079hybrid. When I first saw it, I thought, what's going on here?82600:59:35,599 --> 00:59:37,199And I thought, oh, well, maybe you can get you one82700:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,840hundred and fifty miles out of yourbattery. You can't. It just doesn't82800:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,639make a lot of sense. Icouldn't imagine that the savings and gas mileage82900:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,599offset the annoyance factor. Yeah,it seems like you got the worst of83000:59:46,679 --> 00:59:50,159both worlds. You have to plugin, you have to get a charge83100:59:50,199 --> 00:59:52,519of station, and and you haveto fill it up with the games.83200:59:52,679 --> 00:59:58,199I love the hybrid because even thoughyou're still using gas. It's like when83300:59:58,239 --> 01:00:01,599people are charging their Tesla, they'realso still using gas. Like even though83401:00:01,639 --> 01:00:06,800it's electric, that electric is comingfrom gas, so it's it's still saving83501:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,920the planet. Just as much.We have Uh, people can can email83601:00:10,039 --> 01:00:15,360us with questions. That's uh,what's that agreed? It's contact at Greenberg83701:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,000Financial dot com. I always puttforget to put the content. And the83801:00:17,039 --> 01:00:20,960reason we do that now is obviouslythe show used to be recorded. It83901:00:21,079 --> 01:00:23,840was live in the studio Sunday mornings, but ever since COVID we have been84001:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,880recording it on Friday afternoons, soyou're not able to call in live anymore.84101:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,679So we have the contact at GreenbergFinancial dot com email to be able84201:00:30,679 --> 01:00:32,679to email us any questions you haveand we can talk about it on the84301:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,400radio, and we had a fewof this week in Subashian Orsini. It's84401:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,480gonna tell us, get tell uswhat the questions are? Did come up84501:00:40,480 --> 01:00:45,239with a couple of questions, gladto be here everybody. The first one84601:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,320kind of roots from a lot offinancial planning meetings that Dylan and I have84701:00:47,440 --> 01:00:52,039had lately kind of been seeing thesame type of question arise when we're going84801:00:52,119 --> 01:00:55,400through the plan. It is whatis dollar cost averaging and how does it84901:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,400work? What do you guys wantto take it? Yeah, so dollar85001:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,800cost average means that you're trying toget an average price. Let's say you85101:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,719come in, you open an accountwith ten thousand dollars cash, you have85201:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,960no securities at all yet, andyou just want to be in the SMP85301:01:08,039 --> 01:01:12,119five hundred hundred percent in the SMPfive hundred. What we do is call85401:01:12,159 --> 01:01:15,880it dollar cost average. We're notgoing to go in and buy ten thousand85501:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,400dollars worth of SMP five hundred onday one. We're gonna buy twenty five85601:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,280percent of SMP five hundred today,and then thirty days from now we will85701:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,519buy another twenty five hundred dollars worthof SMP five hundred, and then another85801:01:25,599 --> 01:01:30,280twenty five thirty days later, andthen another twenty five percent thirty days after85901:01:30,360 --> 01:01:35,000that. So it's four tranches,it's four buying opportunities of SMP five hundred,86001:01:35,199 --> 01:01:37,159and the idea behind it is toaverage out the price. Because it's86101:01:37,199 --> 01:01:42,639over a four month period, youcan get a more if the stock market86201:01:42,679 --> 01:01:45,079goes down. You're not already onehundred percent invested from day one. You86301:01:45,119 --> 01:01:47,519can buy in, you can loweryour unit costs, you can lower your86401:01:47,559 --> 01:01:51,239average price, and that's the wholegoal of it. And if you're buying86501:01:51,280 --> 01:01:52,960in it's a high then you're gonnahave just a good market. Now,86601:01:53,039 --> 01:01:55,679what do you mean by lowering yourunic costs? Explain that so lower in86701:01:55,719 --> 01:02:00,079the unit costs is the average price. So you buy stock for twenty dollars,86801:02:00,159 --> 01:02:05,079you buy the SMP five hundred,hypothetically buy the SMP five hundred for86901:02:05,119 --> 01:02:07,800twenty dollars a share on day one. Then it goes down to ten dollars87001:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,840a share thirty days later. Sothirty days later you're buying another twenty five87101:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,960hundred dollars worth of SMP five hundred, but now it's worth ten dollars.87201:02:15,400 --> 01:02:20,119Your average price will be fifteen dollarsper share rather than twenty at the initial87301:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,679if you bought one hundred percent,if you used all ten thousand dollars on87401:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,960day one and bought SMP five hundredand twenty dollars a share, your price87501:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,239will stay at twenty dollars. Andthat's the idea behind it. If it87601:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,400does drop, you can lower yourprice and that would leaven some gunpowder on87701:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,760the sidelines. Well, the exampleI just gave of raytheon right, that's87801:02:37,880 --> 01:02:42,079dollar cost average exactly, the exampleI just gave a few minutes ago.87901:02:42,599 --> 01:02:46,119And the idea is if you putin a specific dollar amount at different times.88001:02:46,519 --> 01:02:50,800If it's higher, you're going tobuy fewer shares, if it's lower,88101:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,760you're going to buy more shares,So you're going to end up with88201:02:52,880 --> 01:02:57,079an average price this is better thanyou would have gotten if you just throw88301:02:57,119 --> 01:03:00,719an alley and cross your fingers exactly. And then it's also a help if88401:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,800you've been thinking, if you've justhad money on the sidelines for a while88501:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,000and you've been trying to get yourfeet wet, you don't know how too,88601:03:07,039 --> 01:03:08,360because you're thinking you have to goall in or all out. It's88701:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,199a good way to get your feetwet, and then you have some skin88801:03:10,239 --> 01:03:13,440in the game, and then you'repaying attention a lot more and it usually88901:03:13,639 --> 01:03:15,159works a lot better. I alsothink something to point out is dollar cost89001:03:15,199 --> 01:03:20,840averaging is normally better for market timingduring like a four or six month period.89101:03:21,239 --> 01:03:23,599Like you wouldn't want to do dollarcost average every year, for example,89201:03:23,760 --> 01:03:28,599because the market can run up waymore and historically the market's up three89301:03:28,639 --> 01:03:30,719out of four years, so likelyyou're not going to get a better price89401:03:30,800 --> 01:03:35,440than what you could have gotten rightthere. It depends, of course,89501:03:35,559 --> 01:03:39,000but that's why when you're starting anaccount with all new cash, and you're89601:03:39,079 --> 01:03:44,519putting in all in day one.That's really risky, rather than you're diversifying89701:03:44,559 --> 01:03:46,159your risk by going over four monthperiod. But you don't want to go89801:03:46,280 --> 01:03:50,599too long because again, the markethistorically always does go up. But as89901:03:50,639 --> 01:03:52,079a guy who's been around for along time, if you had a dollar90001:03:52,199 --> 01:03:57,960cost average back in a nineteen eightyone when the Dow Jones industry a one90101:03:58,079 --> 01:04:00,719thousand for the very first time,if you had a dollar cost average every90201:04:00,800 --> 01:04:05,280six months or every year for thelast forty years, you've been looking pretty90301:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,159good. Oh yeah, that's all. Well, now we're talking about four90401:04:09,199 --> 01:04:13,800to one ks and things like.I agree, yea. I do have90501:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,559another question. This one's gonna begeared a little bit more towards the federal90601:04:15,599 --> 01:04:19,920employees since we're enrolling on that asof late. This one's is what are90701:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,880the options? What are some ofthe options for withdrawing from a TSP in90801:04:23,920 --> 01:04:28,679retirement? Yeah, so you haveabout three different options. I mean if90901:04:28,719 --> 01:04:30,840you're both and what is a TSP? Yeah so, I mean if you're91001:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,400a federal employee, you'll know whata TSP is. It's the thrist Savings91101:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,280Plan For people who aren't federal employees, the TSP is just four one K91201:04:36,440 --> 01:04:43,559for federal employees. If you're belowsixty, things are a little different because91301:04:43,679 --> 01:04:45,559of the fact that before fifty nineand a half, taking out of a91401:04:45,599 --> 01:04:49,639four one K you get penalized.But in a TSP, there's a provision91501:04:49,719 --> 01:04:53,239where if you're over the age offifty five, you can take out of91601:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,840the TSP and not be penalized theten percent penalty. However, you can't91701:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,320roll over that TSP before you turnsixty into an IRA and take money out91801:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,000of IRA. You'll still get penalized. So that's why if you're before sixty,91901:05:04,320 --> 01:05:09,199you have the option to take moneyout of the TSP as regular income92001:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,800and not be penalized. Then afterfifty nine and a half the door opens92101:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,679up for everyone. You can eitherkeep the money in TSP and you can92201:05:15,760 --> 01:05:23,960do four withdrawals a year. That'scorrect, right, Dylan, service withdrawals92301:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,519a year and it's it's uh,it has to be thirty one days apart92401:05:27,719 --> 01:05:31,760if I'm correct, and you andthat's the problem with leaving in TSP necessarily92501:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,440that you can do say you cando four like back to back to back92601:05:34,519 --> 01:05:39,440days, but they won't process eachone until thirty days. So if you92701:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,679want to and that's the sense behindit, right, just don't process it92801:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,840for thirty days. And we allknow if you are a federal employee,92901:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,440you know that the federal government doesnot move fast. They can. They93001:05:48,519 --> 01:05:55,519always have issues with trying to getreports done and different filing stuff done,93101:05:55,559 --> 01:05:59,280and we've run into issues ourselves withthem. But if you want to not93201:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,679deal with the t SP after yourfifty nine and a half or after you're93301:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,599retired, then what you can dois take that money and roll it into93401:06:04,639 --> 01:06:10,519an IRA. There is no taximplications the money is. It does come93501:06:10,599 --> 01:06:14,880over as cash, so whatever holdersyou are get sold and then it comes93601:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,639over as cash and it gets depositedinto an IRA at whatever money manager you93701:06:17,719 --> 01:06:20,880wanted to deal with there. Yeah, and the one thing we do I93801:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,599know federal employees, if youre afederal employee, you have a very unique93901:06:24,719 --> 01:06:29,280retirement system. And what we cando is our financial plan. It really94001:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,519helps. I mean, you cando it even though it's just for regular94101:06:31,519 --> 01:06:34,039four one case and all that,it does work with the federal employees.94201:06:34,239 --> 01:06:38,559But what we really got it intolately is we're able to figure out your94301:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,840projected pension as well, whether you'reten years out, twenty years out,94401:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,280whatever, two years out, wecan help you find what your pension could94501:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,719be and we can put it intoour financial plan and put it all together94601:06:49,000 --> 01:06:53,039and show you what your retirement couldlook like. We had a client last94701:06:53,039 --> 01:06:56,400week who had no idea what hisprojected pension would look like, and so94801:06:56,599 --> 01:06:59,760we are easily able to find Okay, when did you start service, what94901:07:00,119 --> 01:07:02,239is your last year's payment? Andthen from there those the only thing two95001:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,440things I need. I can projectout what his pension would look like if95101:07:05,440 --> 01:07:10,280he retires at sixty sixty two,sixty five, sixty seven. How it95201:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,719changes, whether it makes sense,whether a survivor benefit makes sense. And95301:07:13,800 --> 01:07:18,840for federal employees, they know thata survivor benefit will continue their pension to95401:07:18,920 --> 01:07:24,159their spouse, to their air eithertwenty five or fifty percent of it at95501:07:24,199 --> 01:07:28,920the data there passing, But thatmeans that your pension gets reduced when you95601:07:29,079 --> 01:07:32,320start receiving it. So there's differentways to see where maybe it makes sense95701:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,400to use life insurance instead of asurvivor benefit. Maybe that's more lucrative there's95801:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,480a lot of things that you canlook at from analysis point of view by95901:07:40,599 --> 01:07:44,719using our financial planning software, andit's completely free to anyone who wants to96001:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,400utilize. It's important to remember too, when you roll into an IRA,96101:07:46,559 --> 01:07:50,519if you're over fifty five, right, what you can do? You want96201:07:50,559 --> 01:07:56,880to be careful because in the DSPyou can take money out penalty free after96301:07:57,079 --> 01:08:00,760fifty five. Right. Yeah,yeah, he was explaining earlier, right,96401:08:00,079 --> 01:08:03,119And that's that's I missed that completely. You completely missed it. But96501:08:03,239 --> 01:08:06,559yeah, never, I was lookingat my notes and we're going okay.96601:08:06,760 --> 01:08:10,920But that's why it's super important thatyou know. Tsp's a headache. But96701:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,400if you're before fifty nine and ahalf, it's probably a headache you want96801:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,479to deal with if you think youneed to take money from your retirement account96901:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,439four fifty nine and a half andyou're retired. If you don't, then97001:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,399you could obviously it is legal toroll it all over to IRA. You97101:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,840just got to know that provision andthat penalty you could incur. Right,97201:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,920So Ash, thank you, weappreciate it. We had a couple of97301:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,119interesting IPOs this week. You guysfollow that to arm YEP, Right,97401:08:32,199 --> 01:08:35,439and instat carts. Well, ARMwas last week. Ye, ARM late97501:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,560last week. Yeah, ARM waslate last week. But in the last97601:08:38,560 --> 01:08:43,520of two this week, well thethird one, though, you didn't really97701:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,840care about the third one. Ididn't yet. I think that's why I97801:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,800didn't care about it. But itwas kind of interesting because ARM came out97901:08:49,920 --> 01:08:55,600and it was it was up thirtyfive percent from its IPO price last week.98001:08:56,239 --> 01:09:00,119And it actually somebody must have actuallylooked at the valuation, you know,98101:09:00,199 --> 01:09:04,560and realize that it's trading for fiftypercent the value of of Navidia with98201:09:04,640 --> 01:09:09,079ten percent of the revenue, anddown it came back to its IPO price.98301:09:09,159 --> 01:09:12,119In this instat cart thing, Whatis up with this instacrt thing.98401:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,640It's it's a service that will goget groceries for you and bring you to98501:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,760their house, bring it to yourhouse. Right, every grocery store does98601:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,920that. Why do we need instacrt. I don't understand. Well, it's98701:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,239not the grocery store that does adoor dash, does it. I buy98801:09:26,279 --> 01:09:29,479my groceries through Safeway, but onDoorDash and they can deliver it to me,98901:09:30,119 --> 01:09:31,199right, But the grocery I thinkthe grocery store does it. Also99001:09:31,199 --> 01:09:35,560because the Safeway's got like twenty truckssetting in a parking lot to stay.99101:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,960Safeway on them for this though.To deliver food, yeah, I haven't99201:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,880seen it. And wrong, butI haven't seen that. And I think99301:09:43,119 --> 01:09:45,600almost every grocery store I will deliverfood to you if you if you call99401:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,439them. Yeah. I think it'sa good point too, because when you99501:09:48,479 --> 01:09:53,119look at something like Lift and Uber, right, you know one one out,99601:09:54,039 --> 01:09:57,399well, the stop jump forty percent, This instatcrt thing jump forty percent99701:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,880and it's close Friday under the IPOprice. Gave up the whole forty percent.99801:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,920Then probably try to just make aquick buck sell because we tease the99901:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,159idea of it being saturated that market. Or maybe they sat maybe they sat100001:10:06,199 --> 01:10:10,920there and think it looks like somebodyalready does this. Between Walmart, Kroger,100101:10:11,159 --> 01:10:14,399DoorDash, and instacrt, someone isgonna win out, and it's likely100201:10:14,640 --> 01:10:19,600DoorDash and Instacart. I think maybethey wouldn't losing that is because that's not100301:10:19,640 --> 01:10:24,520their primary business. They do allthe righties. Doesn't Uber do that now100401:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,920too? Eats? Yeah, that'sa different thing against the cart's more just100501:10:29,239 --> 01:10:31,840for groceries groceries, right, Well, I know, yeah, dashes all100601:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,520the restaurants in different I may bewrong, but I think I've thought grocery100701:10:34,560 --> 01:10:39,840stores were delivering to people for yearsnow, so I don't know where instact,100801:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,439no, they haven't been delivering.They've been doing instant pick up,100901:10:43,239 --> 01:10:46,079so that's a different thing. Iactually have elderly people that are getting deliveries101001:10:46,159 --> 01:10:50,880from grocery stores, and so Ihaven't like, yeah, but how many101101:10:50,960 --> 01:10:55,960elderly people are using instacart DoorDash?I don't even how many young people are?101201:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,760Are you talking to them? I'venever even heard of this. Okay,101301:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,720maybe we really may we really needthese people, and I just don't101401:11:02,760 --> 01:11:08,359know it. I was under theimpression that that safe way fries all these101501:11:08,399 --> 01:11:12,399people were delivering for years now.So I'll do more researchful talk about was101601:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,439like, rather than give it toa third party, why not bringing the101701:11:14,479 --> 01:11:15,600revenue yourself? I don't know.It seems it seems odd. And I101801:11:15,680 --> 01:11:21,000know the safe way, the oneI drive by it to liability boom happens101901:11:21,000 --> 01:11:26,880when what happens when a Walmart employeedelivers and he gets gun shot rather than102001:11:26,960 --> 01:11:31,359a door dash employee games a gunshot during the delivery. Yeah, modern102101:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,520times, what if they're on theycould happen, could happen, That's what102201:11:34,520 --> 01:11:40,560I'm saying. So onstead of Walmarthaving that liability that they financial party,102301:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,840what if you do a financial planand get shot? Okay, what if102401:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,720you're doing a radio show and somebodyshoots you, like right now? You102501:11:45,800 --> 01:11:50,079know or you know, Dave,Historically, the worst time to buy stocks102601:11:50,159 --> 01:11:55,359is when unemployment is low below fourpercent and rise. Really yeah, And102701:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,880I was like, really, that'skind of actually surprising. Like the SNP102801:11:59,039 --> 01:12:01,199only gains around three percent when it'sbelow four percent, and that's where we102901:12:01,279 --> 01:12:05,680currently are. And the highest oneis when it's eighteen percent. That's amazing.103001:12:06,079 --> 01:12:10,079Well, we appreciate everybody coming up, Phil break here. We'll be103101:12:10,199 --> 01:12:14,039back after this freak. We've gotJonathan Sabilia joining us, and uh do103201:12:14,079 --> 01:12:15,439you know we Backham. We'll lookforward to talking with you. Thanks for103301:12:15,520 --> 01:12:27,199listening. Say it's all a name, Welcome back everyone. This is the103401:12:27,239 --> 01:12:30,279Money Matter Show. My name isTodd Click. I'm here with Dave Sherwood,103501:12:30,359 --> 01:12:34,720Dean Greenberg, Dylan Greenberg, andmy man Jonathan Sabilia. Always great103601:12:34,760 --> 01:12:41,279to have my man John on theestate planning side of things. John Sabilia103701:12:41,439 --> 01:12:45,800Esquire attorney in law Esquire who hashis own business but he is associated with103801:12:46,000 --> 01:12:51,720us, has an office here inour office, has been talking to a103901:12:51,840 --> 01:12:59,880lot of our clients about legal issuesthat they have been primarily estate planning issues.104001:13:00,119 --> 01:13:04,039Correct. Yes, and it's ait's amazing how many people haven't really104101:13:04,319 --> 01:13:06,840well. I will also say it'snot just the state planning. I mean104201:13:08,119 --> 01:13:12,760he's a great resource for certain taxmatters, but also business succession, and104301:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,760I think that's something that a lotof our clients have no idea where to104401:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,600begin with. There's really nothing.I mean, what's your Google search on104501:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,960that? Right? How do Isell my business? I mean good luck.104601:13:21,279 --> 01:13:26,960So having an expert to have onthe team is very very useful.104701:13:27,279 --> 01:13:29,960We got to have a two clientsin this morning, both sixty six years104801:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,279old, have never thought about evenhaving a will. I think it's something104901:13:32,279 --> 01:13:35,920they probably ought to do. That'swhat they're thinking. Oh, Jonathan gets105001:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,199a call, going to get acall from them, tell us what's going105101:13:39,199 --> 01:13:42,159on in your world? But oh, you know, the same old same.105201:13:42,359 --> 01:13:45,439First off, my pronoun is theman, not my man. So105301:13:45,399 --> 01:13:48,760but I'll take it. Did youjust use pronoun on this show. I105401:13:48,840 --> 01:13:58,760did. That's a very that's veryvery sophisticated. Sophisticated. Yeah, a105501:13:59,479 --> 01:14:08,000good story. I apologize. I'llstay away from that, all right.105601:14:08,079 --> 01:14:13,159I crossed. I crossed the line, all right. Well, as usual,105701:14:13,359 --> 01:14:15,319I usually start off one of theone of these segments with with a105801:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,239story, so you know, it'skind of about the importance of getting an105901:14:19,239 --> 01:14:24,680attorney and not just you know,sometimes a document prepare is a good idea106001:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,680in certain circumstances, but sometimes I'llget you in trouble and get themselves in106101:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,800trouble at the same time. SoI had a lady call me, all106201:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,199right, actually a gentlemen call me. I said, you know, I106301:14:33,239 --> 01:14:35,479haven't heard from my sister in abouta year and a half. She was106401:14:35,880 --> 01:14:43,439handling mom's probate and uh, soI said, well, I'll reach out106501:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,720to her. I haven't heard fromher. And then I looked at the106601:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,920deed and I saw that it wentfrom the probate estate to her personally.106701:14:50,479 --> 01:14:54,279And I called him back and Isaid, hey, look, you know,106801:14:55,560 --> 01:14:59,840it looks like she has administered theestate, but she administered everything to106901:14:59,880 --> 01:15:05,359her self, right, and uh, I don't handle that kind of probate.107001:15:05,439 --> 01:15:09,880So I handed it off to oneof my mentors. He's a litigation107101:15:09,920 --> 01:15:15,119attorney, amazing guy, and hecalled me in. The client said it107201:15:15,199 --> 01:15:17,119was okay, and he spoke tome about the case and he told me107301:15:17,239 --> 01:15:23,640what's going on, and uh,apparently she had one of those document preparers.107401:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,199Okay, and they could be agreat resource. What is a document107501:15:27,319 --> 01:15:30,279preparer? Just somebody that you knowhere in Arizona. Is they could prepare107601:15:30,359 --> 01:15:33,079legal documents. And that's their title. I mean, that's their job,107701:15:33,359 --> 01:15:38,960is document preparing. They can,they can prepare pleadings. They can.107801:15:39,640 --> 01:15:43,520I've heard circumstances where they're preparing legaldocuments like wills and trust but they do107901:15:43,640 --> 01:15:47,439it. I'm the cheat. Andthey have their own businesses and yeah,108001:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,560if you wanted a will, youcall this document prepare and say prepare me108101:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,359a will. Apparently I haven't metany yet, so I you know,108201:15:54,399 --> 01:15:56,960I need to get around a littlebit more. But I know a mortgage108301:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,680guy, not a mortgage guy,an insurance guy that only deals with the108401:15:59,760 --> 01:16:04,199doctor prepare for his state planning clients. And so you know, they could,108501:16:04,199 --> 01:16:08,039like I said, they could bea great resource. But apparently he108601:16:08,159 --> 01:16:11,039gave her the wrong legal advice,and now she's in a lot of hot108701:16:11,119 --> 01:16:14,279water, all right, just becauseit's it's a it's a it's a male.108801:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,640I'm not sure what the term heuses is a litigation term, but108901:16:18,159 --> 01:16:24,560she basically inappropriately distributed assets to herself. And now, like I said,109001:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,720she's in hot water. And Ithink this document payer might be a little109101:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,920bit hot water because he asked theright questions. It doesn't sound like she109201:16:30,159 --> 01:16:34,000was an innocent in this, no. And the thing is is that if109301:16:34,039 --> 01:16:39,720you're an attorney and you're overseeing aprobated state, is your job to make109401:16:39,800 --> 01:16:45,560sure you know the personal representatives flyingstraight. And that's why you know,109501:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,039Well, maybe this girl went inwith bad intentions and thought she'd get away109601:16:48,079 --> 01:16:51,119with it, but she's not goingto. So it is not always a109701:16:51,159 --> 01:16:55,520good, good idea to get yourselfa document, prepare, or just do109801:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,439it yourself. Sometimes you need somelegal advice, you need an attorney to109901:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,359take care of it for you.It's hard to imagine that that most siblings110001:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,640would just stand by and let thishappen in a year and a half later,110101:17:04,800 --> 01:17:10,600right. Uh. In the casesI've dealt with, I had recently110201:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,920had a really good, long timeclient of twenty years passed away, and110301:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,279he had five heirs, and theyare all adults, and they are all110401:17:19,000 --> 01:17:25,359educated, and they're all well employed. This thing got straightened out and distributed110501:17:25,399 --> 01:17:30,319within about two weeks. It wasjust amazing because you depend we depend upon110601:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,399them to react to our wishing.You know, well, I need this,110701:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,920this and this, and you knowsometimes three months later. I had110801:17:38,960 --> 01:17:43,520one case where one of the heirsrefused to take his portion of the estate110901:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,880because it was screw up his Obamacarewas one hundred thousand dollars. He refused111001:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,760to take one hundred thousand dollars becauseit was screw up his Obamacare. Thinking111101:17:50,800 --> 01:17:55,199with a hundred thousan dollars, youcan buy some trance right and have something111201:17:55,279 --> 01:17:58,079left over. Let's worry about Obamacare. What was the other one you had?111301:17:58,079 --> 01:18:00,279The one you and you had along time client, some clients of111401:18:00,319 --> 01:18:04,359ours from twenty five years we're intoday. Great people, aren't fun.111501:18:04,560 --> 01:18:08,359Great people. They've been clients herelonger than I've been alive. Yeah,111601:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,800yeah, that's true today, that'sright. Yeah, I probably got by111701:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,000thirty years. Yeah, thirty years. Huh, it's amazing. Yeah,111801:18:15,359 --> 01:18:17,199they I looked at and I youknow, obviously I can't say who they111901:18:17,239 --> 01:18:21,279are, but they had a Momhad a trust that's over thirty years old112001:18:21,359 --> 01:18:25,640or about thirty years old, andso you could just tell by the way112101:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,159it was written. You know,it had all the old terminology and the112201:18:28,199 --> 01:18:30,760old set up. But you know, we went through each deed. You112301:18:30,800 --> 01:18:35,880know. Unfortunately, Mom she wasdiagnosed with uh, you know, a112401:18:36,039 --> 01:18:42,800cancer. But apparently she has apositive outlook and and they have positive stories112501:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,159of you know, it's it's somethingthat she could possibly live with for a112601:18:45,199 --> 01:18:49,359long time. But it kind oftriggered something where let's take a look at112701:18:49,359 --> 01:18:51,680everything. So I shot over toyour office and I said, you know,112801:18:53,239 --> 01:18:56,640uh, let's just make sure yougot the girls are on the as112901:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,199beneficiary as it a four oh oneK. You did a quick search,113001:18:59,239 --> 01:19:00,279and he said, yep, that'sabsolute right. In fact, I think113101:19:00,279 --> 01:19:03,760you did a top right off thetopic I had. Actually when I found113201:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,479out that she was ill a coupleof days ago, the first thing I113301:19:06,560 --> 01:19:12,439did is looked at her Ira madesure that the beneficiaries were the two daughters,113401:19:12,800 --> 01:19:16,199and also made sure that she'd takenher entire required minimum distribution this year.113501:19:16,359 --> 01:19:18,159Yeah, and it was nice.I just got the you know,113601:19:18,359 --> 01:19:20,119in the middle of the meeting,I said, give me one second,113701:19:20,720 --> 01:19:25,279stood up and went to the nextroom, and everything was cleared up.113801:19:25,399 --> 01:19:27,840So that's nice, you know,because we worked together and we worked so113901:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,319closely, so it's good. It'sit's a good relationship. But you know,114001:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,479we had the big screen TV inthe in the room and I said,114101:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,359let's do a quick deed search.We did some deed searching, and114201:19:36,760 --> 01:19:42,680we noticed that the trust that theyhad in front of him was worthless because114301:19:43,079 --> 01:19:46,039the properties were not funded into thetrust. So that's what we're going to114401:19:46,079 --> 01:19:50,359be doing. Literally, the twohomes that they were concerned about, well114501:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,640one of them was already in thetrust. The other one was not.114601:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,640But still that still causes problems,right, The one that was not in114701:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,279the trust was the one that they'rethe most concerned about. Yeah, and114801:19:59,840 --> 01:20:00,640the and to be honest, youI don't even know if we're going to114901:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,760fund it with the trust because wewant to do a specific distribution, which115001:20:03,800 --> 01:20:08,279means it's going to go to someonein particular. So we're just going to115101:20:08,319 --> 01:20:11,479do a quick beneficiary deed and it'sgoing to go right to the right to115201:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,279the one daughter, So we don'teven need to mess with trustees and trusts.115301:20:15,359 --> 01:20:16,960We can just do it that way, right, and you have how115401:20:17,000 --> 01:20:21,159do you do with the cost basis? The cost? Well, that's a115501:20:21,239 --> 01:20:27,000great point. I didn't want togive it to her outright because if something115601:20:27,159 --> 01:20:30,119was to happen to mom, costbasis would bump up a fair market value115701:20:30,680 --> 01:20:32,520at her day to death. Now, if I was to give it to115801:20:32,560 --> 01:20:36,600her today, she would inherit mom'sbasis, And if she bought it twenty115901:20:36,680 --> 01:20:41,039years ago, you know, Arizonaproperty twenty years ago, it is probably116001:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,720pennies on a dollar. I thinkit's important for a lot of people who116101:20:45,079 --> 01:20:49,119are haven't done any estate planning.They're concerned because of the prices, and116201:20:49,159 --> 01:20:54,239they're like, they think every stateplanning attorneys can sell them the trust,116301:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,800and it's not always the case.A good estate planning attorney, we'll give116401:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,680you tools if it's approp to notuse a trust. You know, no,116501:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,479that's absolutely right. I mean Icould have an entire restatement and charged116601:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,159them full price. But oh yeah, what's the point, you know,116701:21:09,359 --> 01:21:12,680it's it wasn't necessary, But theirattorneys that will do that to you.116801:21:13,039 --> 01:21:16,239And you know there are some attorneysthat what I'm gonna do, you know,116901:21:16,279 --> 01:21:18,600I'm just going to mend the trusta little bit to do a specific117001:21:18,680 --> 01:21:24,800distribution as well. Uh, thereis some argument out there that you know,117101:21:24,960 --> 01:21:29,239why it meant something that's not yours, but I'm it was the two117201:21:29,319 --> 01:21:33,159daughters. They're sole beneficiaries. There'snot going to be any in fighting and117301:21:33,279 --> 01:21:36,239I and I read through the document. It seemed pretty solid. So you117401:21:36,279 --> 01:21:39,479know, I'm just gonna do asmall amendment. I don't need to restate117501:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,199it and put in my own words, which could be very easy to do.117601:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,920Very easy to do is run acouple of thousand dollar bill easily,117701:21:45,119 --> 01:21:47,159right exactly, So I'm gonna savethem about three thousand dollars. Yeah,117801:21:47,159 --> 01:21:51,279I think it's important. I thinkit's important that people understand that if you117901:21:51,439 --> 01:21:57,840need the legal services, you arephysically in the Greenberg Financial office, and118001:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,840Dean would not have you physically inthe Greenberg Financial office if you were doing118101:22:02,079 --> 01:22:06,159untoward things like that about and that'swhat makes us all tick. I mean,118201:22:06,239 --> 01:22:13,000it's Dean's huge John doing the rightthing and charging people a reasonable price118301:22:13,119 --> 01:22:15,399for what they're getting and and andthat goes right to you, and it118401:22:15,439 --> 01:22:19,359goes to insurance people and everyone elsewe deal with. And I also want118501:22:19,359 --> 01:22:23,279to hammer this every time John's onthe shows. He's talked about it before118601:22:24,039 --> 01:22:27,920the ESCORP, right. I mean, it's for certain businesses. It's something118701:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,720that definitely needs to be looked at, especially in terms of being able to118801:22:30,840 --> 01:22:36,159set up four one k's certain definebenefit plans, to find contribution plans like118901:22:36,279 --> 01:22:40,479you have to be able to lookat what are the tax savings I'm missing119001:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,439out on. I have a client, you know, I don't know what119101:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,840our time is, but I justmet with him this week and he is119201:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,279a cheap as they come, andhe is worth twenty thirty million dollars.119301:22:49,920 --> 01:22:56,439He's a real estate professional. Hedoes his own taxes. That's how you119401:22:56,520 --> 01:22:58,680know. He doesn't want to paya CEPA. And he came to me119501:23:00,119 --> 01:23:02,359and I took a look at everythingand I'm saying, you are paying way119601:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,600too much in self employment tax?What are you doing? And so I119701:23:05,920 --> 01:23:12,079referred him to a CPA. TheCPA hasn't responded yet. But you know,119801:23:12,279 --> 01:23:15,840it's just one of those things thatpeople don't realize that you can't.119901:23:15,800 --> 01:23:20,319It's a it's a very it's nota very sophisticated formation in the S corp.120001:23:20,479 --> 01:23:24,880But it's necessary certain circumstances, andyou could avoid a lot of self120101:23:24,920 --> 01:23:30,600employment tax if if you if that'swhat's showing up on your ten forty and120201:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,000if and if you knew needed it. I mean, so many times people120301:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,640are like, I'm selling my businessand then we look at the statements,120401:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,560right John, We're like, oh, my goodness, this should have been120501:23:36,560 --> 01:23:41,319an escort fifteen years ago, rightexactly. So I mean not every not120601:23:41,439 --> 01:23:45,279every business should be an scorp,but it should be something that's considered or120701:23:45,359 --> 01:23:48,720some sort of some sort of formation, and you know, maybe you need120801:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,359a C corp. We back inthe day, I used to do a120901:23:51,399 --> 01:23:55,920lot of my TEP companies that Iwould do taxes for. They were all121001:23:55,960 --> 01:24:00,199C corps. Why because they wouldharbor the money inside the C corp and121101:24:00,359 --> 01:24:02,479just let it grow and grow andgrow, and now what to do tax121201:24:02,600 --> 01:24:08,159laws. It's not it's not thatbad to take dividends anymore so, but121301:24:08,520 --> 01:24:13,039it's still one of those formations thatall makes sense for certain types of industry121401:24:13,079 --> 01:24:16,239and certain types of businesses. Subscertainly didn't make a call. If if121501:24:16,279 --> 01:24:18,920you have any questions, you cancall Jonathan. He shared our office five121601:24:19,000 --> 01:24:24,399two zero five four four four ninezero nine and with our financial plan and121701:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,279tandem with the estate planning for peoplethat need the business planning, people who121801:24:28,279 --> 01:24:30,479want to set up four one kis changing the escorpse. That's why we121901:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,680work so great together. And totallyno obligation. I mean, you can122001:24:33,720 --> 01:24:38,199get all of this advice for nothing, so give us a call. It122101:24:38,199 --> 01:24:40,319would be worth your time. We'recoming up on a break here. We122201:24:40,439 --> 01:24:45,119appreciate your listening to us on thisSunday morning, and we'll be back right122301:24:45,159 --> 01:24:59,600after this breaks say it's all aname. Welcome back everybody. It's been122401:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,840a full packed money about a show. If you missed any part of it,122501:25:02,880 --> 01:25:06,159we want to go back. Justgo to a website Greenberg Financial dot122601:25:06,159 --> 01:25:11,560com, don't know a YouTube sectionand you'll find all the past shows,122701:25:11,680 --> 01:25:15,800including this one. Well, Iguess tomorrow it'll be on there tomorrow,122801:25:15,039 --> 01:25:17,840last week, last segment of theweek, last segment of the show.122901:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,319Would you like a positive news?Should we like an end on a positive123001:25:21,359 --> 01:25:26,079news? There's a lot of emphasison the positive slow because because there's yeah,123101:25:26,119 --> 01:25:29,640because there's If it's not if it'snot good news, it doesn't get123201:25:29,680 --> 01:25:30,880report. If it's not bad news, it doesn't get reported. Right,123301:25:32,319 --> 01:25:38,039it's of no interest to anybody.So last year we had a lot of123401:25:38,239 --> 01:25:43,760dire predictions about the nation's largest manmade reservoir, which is Lake Mead,123501:25:44,119 --> 01:25:48,600Okay, going dry. But becauseof the heavy snowfall last winter, the123601:25:48,760 --> 01:25:54,199lake has risen. Get this,the lake has risen twenty two feet.123701:25:54,960 --> 01:25:59,760Wow. I mean it's a massivereservoir. Don't You don't because feet climate,123801:26:00,399 --> 01:26:03,760It doesn't go to their it's there, their their speech. Oh look123901:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,239what's happening. Like you said,they're not going to report positive news.124001:26:06,359 --> 01:26:10,600No, no, that's really positive. Not only that, but Lake Mohave124101:26:10,760 --> 01:26:14,119and Lake Havishu, which are downstreamfrom Lake Mead, are both at one124201:26:14,199 --> 01:26:16,960hundred percent of capacity. You won'tfind any more bones hanging around either.124301:26:17,079 --> 01:26:19,840No, you're not gonna be andthey're not gonna be draining lake meat to124401:26:19,920 --> 01:26:24,399fill up the two lakes down below. Is that crazy? You never hear124501:26:25,119 --> 01:26:27,720two feet? You don't. Igive you a hard time when you come124601:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,680up with like all the weather andstuff. This is a good one twenty124701:26:30,720 --> 01:26:36,399two feet that's along. That's it'sgood. That's what said. It fits124801:26:36,479 --> 01:26:40,239my agenda. That's a good weatherreport. You know, Tuesday, get124901:26:40,279 --> 01:26:44,560this Tuesday, Amazon? You don'tlike this Tuesday? Amazon rolled out there125001:26:45,000 --> 01:26:48,560just walk out system that allows customersto buy clothing without waiting in a line.125101:26:48,680 --> 01:26:54,039And I'm thinking this is going onall over the nation. What company125201:26:54,199 --> 01:27:00,119is this Amazon? Just walk outit allows you to buy clothing. It125301:27:00,279 --> 01:27:06,720was the store I have no idea. Well close it's tall foods. No,125401:27:08,279 --> 01:27:11,760no, no, it's clothing.But and they're they're installing it the125501:27:11,800 --> 01:27:17,000clothing stores obviously. I just likeAmazon sells their stuff on Amazon. Right125601:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,600you can buy it. Say youbuy like a jacket on Amazon from ULM125701:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,760and then you go go to Lancantadaand pick it up and leave. You125801:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,960go. See what you're saying?Or is there like an Amazon store that125901:27:28,039 --> 01:27:30,880we don't know? If? No, it's it's it's just walk out the126001:27:30,960 --> 01:27:32,520system that allows them to buy mewalk out, like, don't walk out126101:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,359of where you don't have to pay? Where where you pay for? What126201:27:35,640 --> 01:27:40,039store? Where do you paymon store? But have you ever had no idea?126301:27:40,079 --> 01:27:44,279I thought why do you come theybring this up? Never mind I126401:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,479was however, no, put yourselfon the other side. However, just126501:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,600to walk out, you don't knowwhere the store is. You don't even126601:27:48,600 --> 01:27:53,720know if they pay. I'm lookingthat's a that's a good. Well.126701:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,319But if I if I'm in WholeFoods, if I'm in Whole Foods,126801:27:56,399 --> 01:28:00,119right, I can I can usethe palm? Okay? Yeah? So126901:28:01,039 --> 01:28:04,560what would be that if I metLulu Lemon shopping at the store and I127001:28:04,640 --> 01:28:08,920go to check out, how canI use check it out? Just before127101:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,199you said you just walk out?No, you just walk out and said127201:28:11,239 --> 01:28:14,279you're if you're checking out, wemust be say like I walk in and127301:28:14,319 --> 01:28:15,439take the jacket and leave like I'mstealing it, but I don't paid for127401:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,880it? On gets charged on Amazon. You know what it likely is.127501:28:17,960 --> 01:28:23,119It's it's facial recognition. So youprobably have to register on Amazon. You127601:28:23,239 --> 01:28:25,239do the face scam like you dofor your eye. If you do,127701:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,760and then what happens come back whenyou come back through the store, they127801:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,279have the camera, they see youryour face and see what you have and127901:28:31,279 --> 01:28:34,439then boom, they will your AmazonWhole food that Whole Foods. When I128001:28:34,520 --> 01:28:39,960checked out yesterday last week, andnow they've got the poem print thing there.128101:28:40,039 --> 01:28:42,319Yeah, I look at that,go palem print. Cool. I128201:28:42,319 --> 01:28:45,439don't think so. The Amazon cameout a couple of months ago, we've128301:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,039already come over here. Amazon cameout with something else about their Prime They're128401:28:48,079 --> 01:28:51,079going to start ads in twenty twentyfour. I think that's something that we128501:28:51,279 --> 01:28:55,520went a little underreported this week becausethat's a huge revenue draw for Amazon that128601:28:55,560 --> 01:28:58,359they don't currently have. Well,what they'll do is they'll have one with128701:28:58,680 --> 01:29:02,039they'll increase the price if you wantads and most like. But even still,128801:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,960what do you mean ads? BecauseI go on Amazon now and I'll128901:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,800get sponsored, sponsored, sponsored,sponsored, you know, before I get129001:29:10,840 --> 01:29:14,279down to So when you click something, when you click something to watch an129101:29:14,279 --> 01:29:16,479Amazon right now, what comes onis another Amazon show as an ad?129201:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,000What are you talking about? AmazonTV? Prime? I got it all129301:29:20,079 --> 01:29:24,359right, Well that Prime is allokay, that's a good Prime Video.129401:29:24,399 --> 01:29:27,199It's what I should say. Okay, yes, Prime Video. So they're129501:29:27,199 --> 01:29:30,560gonna starts on Prime Video. Yes, I don't know how that's gonna Well129601:29:30,600 --> 01:29:32,800from the beginning, in the beginningof the shows, it's like going to129701:29:32,880 --> 01:29:40,359a movie theater and you see tenthings. Yeah, it's only similar to129801:29:40,439 --> 01:29:44,159other weapids go, he got hegot his EV garaging. I don't but129901:29:44,199 --> 01:29:49,560that we're letting him out to spanAmazon and everything. Yeah, yeah,130001:29:49,560 --> 01:29:53,439I'm thinking I guess I'm thinking Amazon. When I was reading the article,130101:29:53,479 --> 01:29:56,680I was thinking Apple pay is wheremy mind was when I was reading that130201:29:56,840 --> 01:30:00,520article. Yeah, where you justwalk out, you know what I mean?130301:30:00,560 --> 01:30:01,720Apple pay? You don't. Youhave your phone and you just click130401:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,359it, hit it. Yeah,but I'm thinking that they're doing they're doing130501:30:04,439 --> 01:30:06,720something anyway, doesn't it doesn't makesense. We need to find out.130601:30:06,760 --> 01:30:11,079We need to get down big.On the week it was down like ten130701:30:11,119 --> 01:30:13,840percent, I think something like that. Yeah. Well you know what people130801:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,479always said, what about this cashlistsociety? I think we're going to get130901:30:15,479 --> 01:30:19,159there pretty much there. Yeah,it's getting there quickly, all of a131001:30:19,239 --> 01:30:23,600sudden, all of a sudden.Well, young people don't have checking accounts.131101:30:24,159 --> 01:30:28,680We when we want to tie anaccount to a bank, we need131201:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,640avoided check. You don't get thoseanymore. If they have checking accounts,131301:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,359they don't have checks. It's different. Yes, they don't have check.131401:30:35,000 --> 01:30:40,960You have an account, you havebut it's not like you have your weekly131501:30:41,039 --> 01:30:43,319check, your bi weekly checking gearfrom your work. You don't have and131601:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,359so everyone knows we're able to getaround that. You asked for a direct131701:30:45,520 --> 01:30:49,479deposit form from your bank. Right, but twice in the last ten days,131801:30:49,560 --> 01:30:53,399my wife has given me a billthat has to be paid by check.131901:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,920There is no other option. Andyou can still go to the bank132001:30:55,960 --> 01:31:01,039and ask for a bill from thetwo doctors you can call them and put132101:31:01,079 --> 01:31:04,079it on the credit card. Twodifferent doctors. Well one you could call132201:31:04,159 --> 01:31:06,359and I called this ring to nonhole for ten minutes. I said,132301:31:06,359 --> 01:31:09,520okay, find out. Okay,but don't say you can't. You have132401:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,279to pay a check. But alsoyou could make a case of some soul132501:31:12,359 --> 01:31:15,920proprietor just don't want to accept creditbecause their account receivable. I mean,132601:31:15,000 --> 01:31:18,239they can decide not to accept credit. Health Care will always take it on132701:31:18,279 --> 01:31:21,800the credit card because they can getpaid. Then they don't usually let you132801:31:21,880 --> 01:31:27,279out out of the place unless youpay, yeah, you know, unless132901:31:27,279 --> 01:31:30,760they don't know what the bill is. You don't yeah, well, you133001:31:30,800 --> 01:31:32,000know, there's just some kind ofcold pay. And you know, especially133101:31:32,079 --> 01:31:35,680they're dealing with doctors. You don'tuntil they're submitted to the insurance. You133201:31:35,720 --> 01:31:41,319don't know what you're home sales tidedown thirteen point five percent from last year.133301:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,399Existing home sales. Yep, butyou know what, it's a caveat133401:31:44,439 --> 01:31:45,880though. It's a huge thing comingdown. It's a huge thing to notice,133501:31:46,000 --> 01:31:48,760right because if you say just homesales, it's very different because when133601:31:48,760 --> 01:31:54,079you put the two into separate piecesexisting in new sales. New home sales133701:31:54,119 --> 01:31:57,319are doing fine, all right,it's the existing homes that are continuing.133801:31:57,359 --> 01:32:00,880However, home builder sentiment what negadfor the first time in seven months,133901:32:01,159 --> 01:32:04,399and there was an interesting chart thatsaid, the last four recessions we've had134001:32:04,760 --> 01:32:10,840construction a retail construction payrolls have droppedeight to ten percent before the recession occurred.134101:32:11,199 --> 01:32:15,640Currently, we're right around time forthe last four recessions. What preceded134201:32:15,680 --> 01:32:20,720it was an eight to ten percentdrop in retail construction payrolls. So those134301:32:20,760 --> 01:32:26,600are the construction workers were working onnew homes for Okay, so when those134401:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,359drop eight to ten percent, arecession is curred right after it. Okay,134501:32:30,479 --> 01:32:32,880right now we're only at around twopercent drop. So that's the number134601:32:32,920 --> 01:32:35,960to look at, is if wecontinue to see those construction payrolls decline.134701:32:36,520 --> 01:32:41,399Obviously, that means the housing sectorsdeclining and there could be rolling over.134801:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,319Also, I heard these you know, these funny people are saying, I'm134901:32:43,319 --> 01:32:45,319gonna wait to sell my home andrates are lower next year. Well guess135001:32:45,359 --> 01:32:47,560what if rates are lower next year, I means prices are lower. So135101:32:48,560 --> 01:32:53,760where are you winning? You knowit is good. Fed X reported on135201:32:54,399 --> 01:32:58,520X up five percent of the openon Thursday had reported revenue and that income135301:32:58,560 --> 01:33:01,159above expectations, and they raise guidance. They raised guidance. I thought,135401:33:01,279 --> 01:33:06,720really, that is raising guidance oftenseen as a barometer for the global economy,135501:33:06,840 --> 01:33:11,560not what the FED wants to hear. The things are good at fed135601:33:11,760 --> 01:33:15,279X and getting better. Quarter threeearning supports are gonna be huge. I135701:33:15,319 --> 01:33:16,680mean understand I was going to getbetter. Yes, it might get better135801:33:16,720 --> 01:33:20,479from where it was because we gotholiday coming up. But if if oil135901:33:20,520 --> 01:33:23,920prices keep going up and none ofyour prices keep going up, it's not136001:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,680going to get better. Doesn't seemodd, But X thinks it will.136101:33:27,159 --> 01:33:30,800They're seeing a pick up in theglobal economy because the fact is people just136201:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,640won't even buy as much to beshipping, all right, it'll be just136301:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,720business shipping. Maybe that picks upbecause everyone's at home, though I don't136401:33:36,720 --> 01:33:41,359know. I don't even Some ofthese things are a mystery. We've oh136501:33:41,479 --> 01:33:46,159that in six months from now.Well, our guidance was wrong because we136601:33:46,199 --> 01:33:48,600didn't realize oil prices. We're gonnakeep going high. Well, I mean,136701:33:48,640 --> 01:33:54,680how about the biggest dropping in pricesover the last twelve months airline tickets.136801:33:55,479 --> 01:33:59,039Who's seeing that? Yeah, that'sbecause people planned on the sum of136901:33:59,159 --> 01:34:01,479vacations from a year a year anda half ago, Dave, and now137001:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,319the drops off because of it,and they're trying to get it up.137101:34:04,319 --> 01:34:08,840They had to ramp up some ofthe roots, all right, because you137201:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,239remember they were getting stuck. Theywere getting hammered by the by the Department137301:34:12,279 --> 01:34:15,279of Transportation because of the delays andanything else. And now they're not being137401:34:15,319 --> 01:34:17,720able to fill up the plane.So they dropped the prices to get people137501:34:17,760 --> 01:34:21,199going again. So you're seeing theairline tickets drop in price a little bit,137601:34:21,319 --> 01:34:29,359are you okay? It's not theone you were completed? They but137701:34:29,640 --> 01:34:33,560they but the whatdy call it?I've seen when I say they dropped fifty137801:34:33,600 --> 01:34:40,239bucks I've not heard that, sothat's good. That's good. Well,137901:34:40,279 --> 01:34:45,279what's interesting because I was looking atsome tickets over Christmas. It's amazing two138001:34:45,399 --> 01:34:48,840hundred dollars less if you go onChristmas Day. Well, yeah, then138101:34:49,079 --> 01:34:51,159then if you go. Isn't thathow it is every year? Though,138201:34:51,239 --> 01:34:55,680Dean, That's how it is everyyear. That's not that's not we're gonna138301:34:55,680 --> 01:34:58,920go. They're gonna need a fly, yeah, Steve, Christmas Day.138401:34:58,920 --> 01:35:04,640They're just hanging out fly on Christmasdays with people there. That's it.138501:35:05,119 --> 01:35:12,560That's it. That's the Chinese foodon the plane. You get free movies138601:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,520and free Chinese A good one.Let's let's take a trip of it,138701:35:15,680 --> 01:35:23,359and let's send Sandlers eight nights Crushcountry trip and we'll serve your Chinese food138801:35:23,439 --> 01:35:29,000and movies. Let's get on theplane half off. That's pretty funny.138901:35:29,199 --> 01:35:31,840That's funny. Hey, Starbucks loweron Tuesday, guys, after Colin downgraded139001:35:31,920 --> 01:35:36,399the company sighting worry some trends inChina, and they have Nike reporting on139101:35:36,520 --> 01:35:40,600Thursday, so we'll see how theyreport on China. Yeah. But I139201:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,880was listening to Cramer though, who'shas his ear to the ground there and139301:35:44,000 --> 01:35:48,239it's not a problem. They're overstatingthe problem with Starbucks because of luck.139401:35:48,359 --> 01:35:51,039And they always do this, Themedia always says that they never go down139501:35:51,119 --> 01:35:57,520and actually look, and they're havingabsolutely no problems with people lining up buy139601:35:57,560 --> 01:36:00,600Stubb Starbucks. They're thinking, howmany people who uh uh in China?139701:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,239Well, what we're talking about thereis Lucking Coffee in China, which is139801:36:03,279 --> 01:36:06,319the largest coffee chain there. Right, Yeah, and they're doing well because139901:36:06,319 --> 01:36:10,960they're a little cheaper. But youknow, cheapness isn't the thing if you140001:36:11,079 --> 01:36:14,920like Sawbucks better, let's face it. And you can't given your Apple phone140101:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,319or work if you're a government employee. But the wait for an iPhone fifteen140201:36:17,439 --> 01:36:21,359is November. All right, guesswhat we'll be back next week. Well,140301:36:21,399 --> 01:36:25,399your money matters been a good show. Call us. We'll see you.140401:36:25,520 --> 01:36:29,239Sit down, get their free consultation, your risk analysis, all your140501:36:29,319 --> 01:36:31,680financial plan. You tell us,we'll do it. Be happy, be140601:36:31,840 --> 01:36:39,119healthy, and let's all strive tobe probable. Say it's all a fab