Aug. 13, 2023

From Market Sell-offs to Risk Mitigation: Strategies for Portfolio Diversification and Financial Planning

From Market Sell-offs to Risk Mitigation: Strategies for Portfolio Diversification and Financial Planning

Welcome back to another episode of the Greenberg Financial Group podcast! In today's episode, titled "From Market Sell-offs to Risk Mitigation: Strategies for Portfolio Diversification and Financial Planning," we dive into a range of topics affecting...

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Welcome back to another episode of the Greenberg Financial Group podcast! In today's episode, titled "From Market Sell-offs to Risk Mitigation: Strategies for Portfolio Diversification and Financial Planning," we dive into a range of topics affecting the financial landscape. From tax concerns and the upcoming election to the value of financial planning and investment strategies, we've got you covered. We also explore the latest updates in the market, from the performance of EV stocks to Disney's mixed earnings report. Plus, we'll share insights on mitigating risk, the importance of a comprehensive financial plan, and the potential impact of rising interest rates on mortgages. Join us as we navigate the complex world of finance and provide valuable insights for your financial journey. Let's get started!If you would like to contact us to learn more about our firm and our process call us at 520.544.4909 or go to our website at www.Greenbergfinancial.com or email us at Contact@Greenbergfinancial.com
100:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,439Good morning everybody. This is Sundaymorning. It's s eight o'clock in the200:00:08,480 --> 00:00:13,880morning and Hits Money Matters Time sevenninety K and st is where you hear300:00:13,919 --> 00:00:17,280it. Whether you're listening on theradio, you're listening on one of our400:00:17,480 --> 00:00:23,359new technology advices, whether you're listeningon Spot on the podcast. We just500:00:23,440 --> 00:00:29,640are appreciatives of all the people thatare making our show be number one show600:00:30,160 --> 00:00:35,200on the weekends. Do appreciate it. Our ratings are great and it's helping700:00:35,320 --> 00:00:40,039us build a nice business here.And I can't I can't be more thankful800:00:40,119 --> 00:00:44,840for what's happened over the last thirtythree years of doing this radio show and900:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,280giving giving out the advice of whatwe think is going on. All right's1000:00:49,359 --> 00:00:53,920where are we in this thing goingon? The markets obviously had another little1100:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,119rough week that twice this week theywere trying to get up. I mean1200:00:57,159 --> 00:01:00,640the s andps were up forty fiftyalmost sixty points and they turned down for1300:01:00,759 --> 00:01:04,560the day twice. The markets arehaving trouble moving forward and getting traction.1400:01:06,079 --> 00:01:11,239We keep putting in higher, lowerhighs and lower lows. That type of1500:01:11,280 --> 00:01:17,879formation usually breaks off and culminates witha sell off. That gives you a1600:01:18,040 --> 00:01:23,599buying opportunity. We have been mitigatingrisk for a while. We definitely still1700:01:23,640 --> 00:01:29,760mitigating risk as it's been coming downand breaking down through support, and as1800:01:29,799 --> 00:01:33,079sometime when we get to support andthe markets look like they can kind of1900:01:33,079 --> 00:01:38,000bottom out a little bit, we'lltake off some of that mitigating riskers hedges2000:01:38,879 --> 00:01:41,719and we'll look to go the otherway. One of the things you've got2100:01:41,719 --> 00:01:45,599to be careful about is like alot of portfolios we see have so many2200:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,879stocks in them. I mean,you know, I'm talking about hundreds and2300:01:48,959 --> 00:01:55,200hundreds of stocks and a big portfolioand smaller portfolios maybe twenty five or thirty.2400:01:55,519 --> 00:02:00,680It's very hard to mitigate your risk. It's very hard to do that2500:02:00,760 --> 00:02:06,799unless you're sold everything all at once. I don't understand with today's ability to2600:02:06,879 --> 00:02:09,680use indexes, whether it's the DAW, whether it's the NASDAC, or whether2700:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,919it's the S and P five hundred, that doesn't make up part of your2800:02:13,960 --> 00:02:19,319portfolio that you can always hedge againstor mitigate risk against while you hold some2900:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,560of the other stocks outside there.But that's just you know, changing with3000:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,800the times. I guess that's theway I look at it. You know,3100:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,759consolidation makes it a lot simpler andmore nimble as we navigate what's going3200:02:31,840 --> 00:02:37,400on, not just in our economy, not just in our country, but3300:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,800obviously around the world. As Isaid, this is the Money Matter Show3400:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,280and it is sponsored by Greenberg FinancialGroup. Greenberg Financial Group, it's both3500:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,280the registered investment advisory and they brokea dealer. We're registered with the SEC,3600:02:50,479 --> 00:02:53,639members of fin and members of CIPPIC. On the show, we talk3700:02:53,680 --> 00:02:58,080about different products, strategies, ideasand all and we all have opinions.3800:02:58,319 --> 00:03:02,599I don't care what it is.You need to understand risks before you invest.3900:03:04,159 --> 00:03:07,000It's such a great idea to understandthe risk. And it doesn't matter4000:03:07,120 --> 00:03:13,439what it does, it's you understandingit. If it goes up. People4100:03:13,479 --> 00:03:15,360think if something goes up, itmakes you let them, oh, yeah,4200:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,120I understood the risk, and assoon as it goes down they go,4300:03:19,199 --> 00:03:23,159oh, I didn't understand the risk. Understand the risk because that allows4400:03:23,199 --> 00:03:30,520you to figure out how much allocationof your portfolio you want in that scenario.4500:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,599Now, that's part of the processwe do. We figure out what4600:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,319your risk is. We figure outnot only by you going ahead and taking4700:03:39,400 --> 00:03:45,479a basically an artificial intelligence task thatgives you a whole bunch of different questions4800:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,479and then it kind of comes upwith an answer. And those questions are4900:03:49,479 --> 00:03:55,360based on your age, your cashflow, the ability of needing money or5000:03:55,439 --> 00:04:00,280not, any events that are comingup in the small future, how you5100:04:00,319 --> 00:04:03,159can invest for There's a lot ofthings that go into it. And the5200:04:03,280 --> 00:04:09,199greatest part is when you do therisk allize everyone is in a different situation,5300:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,000so it's according to you and youget a risk, But then we5400:04:12,120 --> 00:04:17,079talk it out what really is yourrisk tolerance and find out how you handle5500:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,959two thousand and eight, two thousandand one, how you handle two twenty5600:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,920how you handled any markets in twotwenty two when they ended up going down?5700:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,680All now how you handling when they'regoing up. Of course, everyone5800:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,240feels good when it's going up.But if you're complaining and not happy because5900:04:32,279 --> 00:04:38,879you're not making s and P orNASDAC type of returns and think that you6000:04:38,879 --> 00:04:42,120can call the bottom and call thetop, then you gotta read look and6100:04:42,199 --> 00:04:49,240think about is that realistic? Mitigatingrisk is so important today's world of investing.6200:04:49,879 --> 00:04:53,199Just sitting there and saying, oh, everything's gonna be okay, is6300:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,600one way to do it if you'reyoung. But if you know you're approaching6400:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,240fifty sixty, or you're sixty fiveseventy or year seventy five, eighty or6500:05:03,360 --> 00:05:10,199plus, we don't have the fortitudeto say, oh, I just waited6600:05:10,199 --> 00:05:14,920out five more years okay, orten more years and wait for it all6700:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,839to come back. And you cando that, especially even not using the6800:05:17,879 --> 00:05:24,000money. But big, bigger thingis you don't have the income that's constantly6900:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,279putting in new money to be ableto average down. That's the thing that7000:05:28,319 --> 00:05:32,399nobody talks about. Nobody talks aboutwhy you're working and you're putting money into7100:05:32,399 --> 00:05:38,480a four one K retirement plan orinvesting when things go down you have more7200:05:38,519 --> 00:05:43,360money coming off your paychecks or ifyour in all to reinvest the money at7300:05:43,399 --> 00:05:46,079lower prices. So if you likethe apple at one hundred and ninety and7400:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,560then it goes to one twenty,you can buy more because you have more7500:05:49,560 --> 00:05:55,800money coming in. When you're nothaving more coming in a more income and7600:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,720you're spending what you have all you'rethe only way you get to do that7700:05:58,879 --> 00:06:01,720is if you have care before themarkets do fall, And how do you7800:06:01,759 --> 00:06:05,480determine that. You have to determineit by the valuations of where you think7900:06:05,519 --> 00:06:10,120the markets are, and you haveto be okay if the markets go higher,8000:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,079even though you sold that, you'renot going to be all upset about8100:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,120it, because eventually, at sometime you live along enough, the markets8200:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,319are coming down again, and thatmoney is sitting right now and the money8300:06:20,319 --> 00:06:25,680markets or the or the treasuries governmenttreasury is earning four and a half five8400:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,800five and a half percent, Thatmoney then can get put back to work.8500:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,839We weren't having that opportunity two threeyears, four years, five years8600:06:33,839 --> 00:06:38,319ago. You were lucky to begetting a half a percent in the money8700:06:38,319 --> 00:06:42,480market funds. At least now youcan make some money while you're sitting waiting8800:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,720and being cautious, and you reallycan have a balanced portfolio. So the8900:06:46,720 --> 00:06:53,240process we go through is finding outwhat you really have, what your intentions9000:06:53,240 --> 00:06:59,959are, gathering everything together and puttinga real financial plan together. And I'm9100:07:00,079 --> 00:07:02,680in a real one, not onejust to sell insurance, not one just9200:07:02,759 --> 00:07:08,079to go ahead and get assets orsell you a product. One that is9300:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,560a living, breathing document that you'regonna have to go over and change over9400:07:13,639 --> 00:07:18,000time. This is a snapshet ofwhere you are today. Where you're on9500:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,160a year, two years, fiveyears, ten years is totally different.9600:07:23,319 --> 00:07:26,000And if you and if you're evenolder, you need a plan because what9700:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,480are you gonna do with the money? Are your beneficiaries right? Have you9800:07:29,519 --> 00:07:33,279set it up correctly? Where's themoney gonna go? Have you even talked9900:07:33,319 --> 00:07:39,920to the people that are going tobe getting your legacy? How do you10000:07:39,959 --> 00:07:44,519want that managed? There's so manythings that go into it, and they're10100:07:44,519 --> 00:07:50,879tough questions, but we ask themand people answer them because it's it's it's10200:07:50,920 --> 00:07:59,519private, it's confidential. But aplan is so important. I was looking10300:07:59,519 --> 00:08:05,000at some stuff some research the othertime. Only twenty nine percent of people10400:08:05,079 --> 00:08:11,519have a financial plan, twenty ninepercent and over sixty five percent say they10500:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,879should have one. So there's morethan double the amount of people that say10600:08:16,879 --> 00:08:22,600they should have one that actually havea real plan. I know. Now10700:08:22,639 --> 00:08:28,600there's a lot of stuff on theinternet you can go put together and read10800:08:28,639 --> 00:08:33,399and do a financial plan, andsome people can do that, but I'm10900:08:33,399 --> 00:08:37,840not sure how you go and doa financial plan on the internet by plugging11000:08:37,879 --> 00:08:43,759in some numbers without talking to someoneor understanding it when really it's about building11100:08:43,759 --> 00:08:50,720a relationship. Otherwise it's just numbersthat frankly it don't really understand most people.11200:08:52,799 --> 00:08:58,720Financial literacy is the lowest amount ofliteracy we have in this country.11300:09:01,120 --> 00:09:07,720People don't understand it for good reason. Nobody teaches it on any level.11400:09:07,799 --> 00:09:11,320And then when you get money,you're trying to learn, and some people11500:09:11,360 --> 00:09:16,960do will learn very well, butthere's a lot to it. As a11600:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,399person that has money that has toinvest money, the number one thing you11700:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,279have to do is look to findsomeone that you actually feel you can trust.11800:09:26,279 --> 00:09:28,440You interview them, you talk tothem, You get their philosophies.11900:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,200Are they on board, do youhave good energy? Do you feel like12000:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,879they're honest and upfront? Are theywhat kind of fees are they charging?12100:09:35,919 --> 00:09:39,159Are they in the ballpark? Andrealm of being fair? Because that's all12200:09:39,159 --> 00:09:45,519you ask as an investor. ButI'm gonna tell you to ask one more12300:09:45,639 --> 00:09:52,559question. How do you mitigate risk? If they tell you you buy it12400:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,759annuity, you don't worry about itbecause you can't lose any money. That12500:09:56,879 --> 00:10:00,159might be that might be the rightanswer for you, but it might I'll12600:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,000be the right answer for you.Ask them how to mitigate risk. If12700:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,159they say it doesn't matter. Themarkets go down, they go up,12800:10:05,159 --> 00:10:15,600and you're gonna be fine. Guesswhat you will be if you have time.12900:10:16,759 --> 00:10:20,000But if it stresses you out becauseyou're down twenty at thirty percent or13000:10:20,039 --> 00:10:24,000even ten percent in today's in today'sworld, then that's not the right answer13100:10:24,000 --> 00:10:30,399for you, and that's not theright portfolio for you. Find a good13200:10:30,519 --> 00:10:31,679advisor, one that you trust.You can do it on your own,13300:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,600But how are you going to doit on your own if you don't really13400:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,720understand it. If you do,a lot of people manage your own money.13500:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,120It's great, they've learned, theylearned, they did it, they've13600:10:41,159 --> 00:10:45,639been putting it on. That's fantastic. Do it and it's good. But13700:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,840if you didn't and you don't havea plan. But even if you're doing13800:10:48,879 --> 00:10:52,120managing it yourself, you should stilltry to have a financial plan. Have13900:10:52,279 --> 00:10:54,720someone else look at it, checkit out, see if it's worth it14000:10:54,759 --> 00:11:01,200to you. That's the way youdo it and they will benefit you.14100:11:01,799 --> 00:11:07,879This comes from somebody that's been inthe business for forty years and never really14200:11:07,919 --> 00:11:11,360did financial plans until about four orfive years ago. And the reason I14300:11:11,399 --> 00:11:18,279didn't is because most of those financialplanning programs were set up by insurance companies14400:11:18,320 --> 00:11:24,559to sell insurance products, whether it'slife insurance, disability insurance, or risk14500:11:24,559 --> 00:11:31,080stuff and annuities high commissioned products.The programs now have all these things including14600:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,000as you're here, Dylan and Toddalways talk about what IF's, what ifs14700:11:35,399 --> 00:11:39,799meeting, what if this happens orthis happens, what will happen to my14800:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,200portfolio? And I'll have them talka little bit later about the Monte Carlo14900:11:43,919 --> 00:11:50,320scenario. That means, I know, the first thing is saying hey Monty15000:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,720Carlo, you know, let's goto sell France or it's gambling of something.15100:11:54,000 --> 00:12:01,440What it does It actually goes throughall the different areas that can happen15200:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,799and gives you the probability of successof your financial plan the way it is15300:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,120or the way you get it to. So what we do is we work15400:12:09,200 --> 00:12:16,600towards getting over a ninety percent effectiverate on your portfolio will absolutely work for15500:12:16,639 --> 00:12:20,080you if you did what the plantells you to do, that's pretty cool.15600:12:22,960 --> 00:12:28,399You still not have that ninety percentplus that the plan you put together15700:12:28,480 --> 00:12:35,720with us will be effective. Obviously, things change, and that's why it's15800:12:35,840 --> 00:12:41,320living, breathing document. You've gotto change it when things change. People15900:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,960have health problems, people move,people lose their jobs, people have weddings,16000:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,159people have funerals, people want totravel, people spend more money.16100:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,279It's so many different scenarios that gointo it, so you keep updating it.16200:12:52,360 --> 00:12:58,559You meet with your advices. Wework as a team. That means16300:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,360we all know every client, whattheir needs are, what they're looking for,16400:13:03,519 --> 00:13:07,639how we need to manage the moneyand be able to do that,16500:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,360and that's what we do. Weget you set up and then we go16600:13:09,399 --> 00:13:13,519ahead and we actually manage the money. We don't point it off to somebody16700:13:13,519 --> 00:13:16,279else. So that way, ifyou want to go ahead and kind and16800:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,240say, hey, I'm a littlenervous here. I don't like what's going16900:13:20,279 --> 00:13:22,600on in Washington. I can't standBiden, or I can't stand this one17000:13:22,639 --> 00:13:26,799or that one. I don't likethe regulations. I can't handle the boom.17100:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,000Next day, we can fix it. We can lower your risk tolerance17200:13:31,039 --> 00:13:37,159for you. We can mitigate morerisk. The key that I see out17300:13:37,200 --> 00:13:43,159there is the understanding of how tomitigate risk when the markets are too risky,17400:13:43,200 --> 00:13:48,519which I believe they are now,but still be enabled to make some17500:13:48,600 --> 00:13:56,120type of money above inflation when themarkets are moving higher. And by mitigating17600:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,279risk, it doesn't mean all youjust sit there markets go down. Also17700:14:00,399 --> 00:14:05,159have to be aware of taking offthe risk controls and when do you go17800:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,279the other way and become aggressive againin the markets, And how do you17900:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,440do that? And what do youbuy and how do you do that?18000:14:09,559 --> 00:14:16,039Stuff? That's experience. That's everyonethat says, oh, it doesn't matter,18100:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,320just allocate. It's not a badthing. I like experience because as18200:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,840a retail person, we're not tryingto beat any institution and stuff. I'm18300:14:24,879 --> 00:14:30,960trying to do what's right for youwithin your realm, within your feelings of18400:14:31,159 --> 00:14:37,879risk and reward, and your abilityto handle the markets going down ten twenty18500:14:37,960 --> 00:14:45,960thirty percent and the markets going upand being able to participate. That sounds18600:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,600good. You know what we dohere, and we do. We do18700:14:50,639 --> 00:14:52,879the financial plan consultations for you forfree or you have to do it's call18800:14:54,039 --> 00:15:00,480us. Obviously enough people like whatwe say and what our proposals and they18900:15:00,519 --> 00:15:03,240do business with us. But ifthey don't, they still get the plan.19000:15:03,399 --> 00:15:05,720We don't hide the plan from you. We don't say all now you19100:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,559have to go ahead and do businesswith us to be able to get to19200:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,519plan. Oh oh, by theway, yes, the financial plans free,19300:15:11,559 --> 00:15:13,799but if you actually want it,you gotta pay for No, we19400:15:13,879 --> 00:15:18,159don't do any of that. Myword is my word, and that's all19500:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,240you ever have in this life.We stick to it. The good news19600:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,559is people like what we say anddo and trust us and build clients for19700:15:26,759 --> 00:15:31,159us a long long time. We'renot perfect, by no means that we19800:15:31,279 --> 00:15:33,960perfect. We make mistakes, welose money, we make money, we19900:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,759do what we say we're going todo. We're not always right, but20000:15:37,879 --> 00:15:41,120we certainly are right more than weare wrong, and that's important. And20100:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,320we know how to mitigate risk,and we know how to set up income20200:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,639portfolios. And we have different typeof models. We have models for people20300:15:48,039 --> 00:15:52,639that need to subsidize their income.We have models for people that want protection.20400:15:52,000 --> 00:15:58,440We have models for people that wantaggressive growth. You tell us what20500:15:58,519 --> 00:16:02,440you want and I'll show you whatwe do. And that, to me20600:16:03,639 --> 00:16:07,440is why we continue to grow ourfirm week after week, month after month,20700:16:07,559 --> 00:16:15,600year after year. So as wemove forward here, you see a20800:16:15,679 --> 00:16:21,039lot of things going on, andI think I think most of us are20900:16:21,080 --> 00:16:26,759shaking our head with our government andwhat's going on with politically, and we're21000:16:26,759 --> 00:16:30,679afraid of what's going to happen comingdown the road. Here we all know,21100:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,919and it's so obvious that's happening.But I have to scratch my head21200:16:40,279 --> 00:16:47,159when people out there are defending JoeBiden's record right now, they're defending it.21300:16:48,279 --> 00:16:51,600People I know, friends that Iknow. They're defending that now.21400:16:51,679 --> 00:16:55,000They know not to getting a verydeep discussion with it with me because I'll21500:16:55,039 --> 00:16:57,440just blow their doors off, allright, But at the end of the21600:16:57,559 --> 00:17:03,079day, they think his track recordright now as president, it's fantastic,21700:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,680without looking at any other caveats.They even told me that they look at21800:17:07,720 --> 00:17:12,279the stock market, it's at alltime highs. They said, what world21900:17:12,319 --> 00:17:18,720are you living in? What world? First of all, we're not at22000:17:18,759 --> 00:17:23,039all time high so don't say thatwe have rallied in twenty one only to22100:17:23,079 --> 00:17:26,200fall in twenty two and we're notas high as we were in twenty two.22200:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,440But inflation, they refuse to talkabout it. It's like a non22300:17:33,519 --> 00:17:41,000event to them. The struggles thatwe have non event. The business is22400:17:41,079 --> 00:17:47,640going out the credit card interest.The credit cards interest is off the chart.22500:17:47,759 --> 00:17:52,200But the credit card debt is overa trillion dollars. We've never had22600:17:52,279 --> 00:17:56,519that. Our country's debt is thatis over a trillion dollars is thirty three22700:17:56,599 --> 00:18:03,960trillion. They think they pulled outof Afghanistan and that we're not gonna war.22800:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,680They forgot the debacle that we wentthrough. They forgot the debacle that22900:18:07,759 --> 00:18:11,680we have now in Ukraine. Andnow we find out all these things that23000:18:11,759 --> 00:18:15,519have gone on beforehand, with Parismaand everything else. If you don't think23100:18:15,559 --> 00:18:21,039there's some other stuff that's going onwith this whole war with Ukraine and Russia23200:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,720and finding out that they got paidby these people, who's gonna there's benefits.23300:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,680You watch enough of these shows,and I'm not a big believer in23400:18:30,799 --> 00:18:33,279everything you see, but they haveto have a story from someplace, and23500:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,960the stories of these corrupt contractors thatare in bed with the government to make23600:18:38,039 --> 00:18:48,160this money to make disturbances is notfar fetched. It's not farfetched. I'm23700:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,480sure there's some Hollywood in all thesethings too, and a little exaggerations,23800:18:52,880 --> 00:19:00,440but the idea that we have thatwe stir the hornet's nest then we bring23900:19:00,519 --> 00:19:03,559in contractors who helped do this onthe side, so a doesn't pin on24000:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,839our government to be able to benefitby billions and billions of dollars. I24100:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,720don't think it's so far. Fetchwho's going to who is going to be24200:19:11,799 --> 00:19:19,599there building Ukraine? And then thenall the stuff with ev vehicles and everything.24300:19:19,680 --> 00:19:26,119You saw po Terra, the onethat they putting money towards another government24400:19:26,559 --> 00:19:30,839president that putting money towards it.Obama did the same thing with Solar and24500:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,079the went out of business. Andthen and then biding things. Oh yeah,24600:19:33,119 --> 00:19:41,039Potera, the electric car cover bankrupt, bankrupt, But that's Trump's full.24700:19:41,359 --> 00:19:51,400All these things they blame on Trumpare downgrade to our ratings for bonds.24800:19:52,759 --> 00:19:57,400They blame on Trump. Are youkidding? This downgrade came? And24900:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,400then they say, well, welook what we passed. We passed the25000:20:00,480 --> 00:20:06,359infrastructure, we passed this, wepassed that. Guys, you had control25100:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,440of everything. I think it's horriblethat when the Republicans have control of everything,25200:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,880we can't pass stuff, but youguys have that together. I'm over25300:20:15,200 --> 00:20:21,720that's fine, but he can't getanything through that's worth it, damn.25400:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,319And every bill we have had somuch crap in it, it's not even25500:20:25,400 --> 00:20:33,559funny. This Secure Act two pointzero. Okay, you don't think this25600:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,160is a a is a tax hike? Do you understand everyone that all has25700:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,599over one hundred and forty five thousanddollars salary starting next year? Right now,25800:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,000they're saying that you can't if you'reover fifty, you can't do the25900:20:47,079 --> 00:20:52,319catch up rule and put in seventyfive hundred dollars. More So, if26000:20:52,319 --> 00:20:56,279you're making money you want to putmore money away like we've been doing,26100:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,559you can't do it so far.We'll see if they change that. So26200:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,559right now you can put out thirtythousand dollars in your four one K plan,26300:21:06,759 --> 00:21:08,519but next year you would only beable to put away twenty two five26400:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,319If you make over one hundred fortyfive thousand dollars, they say, put26500:21:12,359 --> 00:21:17,559the rest of the money into aroth four one K, And I'm trying26600:21:17,559 --> 00:21:19,839to find out if it's also aroth ira, because you know, if26700:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,279you make over a hundred forty fivethousand dollars right now, you can't put26800:21:22,279 --> 00:21:26,039it into a roth ira. Soare they going to change that rule?26900:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,759Probably not, because they don't wantyou at the end of the day.27000:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,559That's seventy five hundred dollars with theright offs that you got that you didn't27100:21:33,559 --> 00:21:37,720have to pay on your salary.That now they're going to take taxes out.27200:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,920But I thought the limit was fourhundred thousand. I will not tax27300:21:42,920 --> 00:21:52,119to anybody that's making under four hundredthousand. Everybody over fifty making three hundred27400:21:52,200 --> 00:21:57,200three fifty one fifty two hundred,that's trying to save money. That's a27500:21:57,279 --> 00:22:02,279tax hike because you will not putthat money away. You won't get to27600:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,799tax deduction. Think about that.Left and right. There's so many things27700:22:07,839 --> 00:22:12,440that they keep saying he's done great. I don't see him. The regulations27800:22:12,559 --> 00:22:19,480off the charts. They want tocontrol everything. It's not good. People27900:22:19,519 --> 00:22:26,960are getting upset and the end resultis not going to be pretty. And28000:22:26,319 --> 00:22:30,960this election coming up is going tobe very important, very important on so28100:22:32,079 --> 00:22:37,200many levels, and there's going tobe a lot of infighting. There's going28200:22:37,279 --> 00:22:40,759to be a lot of things goingback and forth. The Republican Party is28300:22:40,799 --> 00:22:42,319going to be split, They're goingto be yelling at each other, but28400:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,920hopefully they know how to get togetherat the end, because you know the28500:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,240Democrats will get together. At theend, they'll yell at each other,28600:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,400they'll tell each other how horrible theyare and bite again. But who's ever28700:22:52,480 --> 00:22:59,079there At the end, they willsupport. We need to do the same28800:22:59,160 --> 00:23:07,960thing we do. I'm concerned aboutour debt, concerned about regulations. I'm28900:23:07,039 --> 00:23:18,519concerned about our strength of a country. I am very concerned that unions go29000:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,759through the roof right now because theyknow that Biden is a union type guy.29100:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,200Everyone wants to go and strike andwants so much money. Everyone that29200:23:27,359 --> 00:23:32,960in the union that wants more money. That's inflationary. That is inflationary.29300:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,839We all want more money. Youknow how you get more money. You29400:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,480become indispensable to the people you're workingfor. You put in the time,29500:23:40,519 --> 00:23:42,240the effort, in the years todo that, or you go out on29600:23:42,319 --> 00:23:45,640your own. You take the riskand you do things that other people won't29700:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,200do and if it turns out great, If not, you're the one that's29800:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,240holding the bag. You're the onethat loses. You're the one that gets29900:23:53,279 --> 00:23:57,880the tax right off of thirty percentof everything you lost. Big deal.30000:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,240You lose a million and you getto write off three hundred thousand. Big30100:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,759deal. You have to be ableto make it back. Everything is backwards30200:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,759right now. Socially, there's somany things out of backwards. Economically,30300:24:10,880 --> 00:24:17,359they're off the charts backwards. Butsomehow the left just continues to support him30400:24:17,559 --> 00:24:21,960and actually do it with a smileand praise him, which drives me crazy.30500:24:22,079 --> 00:24:23,960We'll be back. This is theMoney Matty Show, and we all30600:24:25,319 --> 00:24:40,279appreciate you all listening. Say it'sall a name. Welcome back everybody to30700:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,680the Money Matty Show. We gotDave Sherwood, Dylan Greenberg, Todd Glick,30800:24:44,799 --> 00:24:48,920myself, Dean Greenberg here to bringyou whatever information we have from the30900:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,119week, and of course Dave hasa lot of stuff. So here we'll31000:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,640let him start. Come up witha name. I think you said he31100:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,039came up with a name for yourEV. Well, you know we have31200:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,960we have an Evy segment every week, and you rabbit, I think that31300:25:02,160 --> 00:25:10,680that you have. You have vd EV EV elect vehicle vehicle every week,31400:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,039and we're trying to come up witha little name. And I finally31500:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,720came up with it. But it'sgonna be called ev Garage. Right that31600:25:15,799 --> 00:25:18,119We're gonna actually was gonna go outin my garage and record the sound of31700:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,319the garage girl opening. It's okay, that's a little much. That that's31800:25:22,319 --> 00:25:25,359a little much. That's what Iwas thinking of that gay, We're gonna31900:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,279blow your EV out of the water. That's probably not gonna happen. Yeah,32000:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,799well with what Well, first ofall, you've been down on it.32100:25:33,759 --> 00:25:37,039No, no, I'm not upor down. Let me clear,32200:25:37,279 --> 00:25:41,680because you don't want to come on. Man, I'm not an EV supporter32300:25:41,839 --> 00:25:45,880and I'm not anti EV. I'ma curious guy who's enjoying an experience.32400:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,720That's all an experiment. It's anexperiment. We bring information later about it.32500:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,160We got it. We we dida homework this week on your ELD.32600:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,480You start the week right on Thursday, we got the CPI. I32700:25:57,559 --> 00:26:02,119mean really, there was no bigmark market movers in the first parts of32800:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,720the big news of the week tidesince Dean told me to go first.32900:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,160The big news of the week iswe broke our fifty three consecutive day hundred33000:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,920degree record streaks. That's just thebig news. Actually, that big news33100:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,799of the week was in Maui.Right, What a tragedy, What a33200:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,920tragedy that with the beautiful city andlike sixty or seventy people. Dad,33300:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,119are you I just can't even imaginebeing on Maui. Whenever you ever been33400:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,759in Mali? Oh yeah, okay, yeah, usually you don't leave like33500:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,000Tucson to California. Yeah, wedon't talk about it. Well, I33600:26:34,039 --> 00:26:37,200know you in South Dakota. Youwent a lot of places South Dakota.33700:26:37,559 --> 00:26:42,559I went in North Dakota. Exactly. Getting back to the markets, Yes,33800:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,079we had the CPI on Thursday.Did it came in below expectations?33900:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,279It's still increased from last month.The market liked it opened up higher,34000:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,720but on Thursday we still ended uppretty much down, I mean pretty much34100:26:56,759 --> 00:27:00,279reversed. Course, that's because thewholesale just came in higher than expected.34200:27:00,319 --> 00:27:03,079Well, now we ended up onThursday atas time. By Thursday we had34300:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,720opened up four hundred and fifty points. And I said to Dean, this34400:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,960is like coming back from vacation andthinking you gain ten pounds. You get34500:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,079on the scale and you only gainfive pounds. You're still five pounds heavy34600:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,240year. You still have work todo. So it fus about my vacation34700:27:19,839 --> 00:27:25,039that the CPI wasn't as bad assome had feared. It was still an34800:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,640uptick and it was the first uptickin a year. Yeah, it's been34900:27:27,680 --> 00:27:33,640ticking steadily lower for a year.It was primarily driven by housing and rents,35000:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,359shelter cost. Shelter cost which oneyou're talking about shelter cost the CPI35100:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,759CPI right, CPI was driven byshelter costs. But did you hear what35200:27:41,839 --> 00:27:48,839the PPI reason was higher than expectit? Now'll go ahead, financial services?35300:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,799Yes, I didn't. It wasweird financial service. Of course,35400:27:52,119 --> 00:27:57,079if everyone's making money, the feeswill go higher because it's based on the35500:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,920amount of the money people have onthe mounting. Yeah, when it goes35600:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000down, then why didn't because isthat the reason was going down? That's35700:28:04,039 --> 00:28:07,799what they're using now, Dave.They come out with stuff, they talk35800:28:07,839 --> 00:28:11,240about stuff that makes no sense.Is it not the interest that they have35900:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,640to pay with the financial services companyincreasing? That's not what they were talking36000:28:15,839 --> 00:28:21,799They're talking about the the fees beinghired. But I know what if the36100:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,839financial services company that the producers useas in strips go up, they cost36200:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,519more. That's not what they weretalking about. Okay, I've got a36300:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,279David Stephen Leesman was like, Idon't get this. Yeah, I got36400:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,480to look into this more. Itmakes no sense where we've all these years36500:28:37,519 --> 00:28:40,359instead have been doing this. I'venever heard this, But then why don't36600:28:40,359 --> 00:28:41,799we talk about it when the PPInumbers coming down? He said, not36700:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,359one time? Right? Ever,Ever, I thought it was kind of36800:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,559interesting. I've looked it into thenumbers. Is so what the big gainers36900:28:48,599 --> 00:28:52,599are. Remember July of last yearwe were at eight point five, So37000:28:52,799 --> 00:28:56,039three point two is better than eightpoint five for sure. Uh, year37100:28:56,119 --> 00:28:59,599over your DNUS is year over year. It's important to remember that the biggest37200:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,319gains year over year motor vehicle insuranceup seventeen point eight percent. And we37300:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,000know why. Anthony Figureau was onand he said, because the cost of37400:29:07,079 --> 00:29:11,799reparing all these vehicles, with inflationhaving run away, it is very high.37500:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,000So the surance premiums, insurance preamsare high. Second one I thought37600:29:17,079 --> 00:29:22,039was interesting. Tax preparation and accountingup fourteen percent from a year ago.37700:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,960Yeah. Why isn't that weird?Yeah? Because rent went up tells it.37800:29:26,519 --> 00:29:30,200They're coming up with stuff that Idon't understand. How they get into37900:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,799the financial Well, we have tocome up with reasons. So let's go38000:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,000into the financial services. Business.It shouldn't matter. I don't know.38100:29:36,039 --> 00:29:40,359How about Number three was the foodfrom vending machines at fourteen percent? Okay,38200:29:40,359 --> 00:29:42,480I can understand that. On theon the decliners. Health insurance is38300:29:42,559 --> 00:29:48,319twenty nine point five percent below ayear ago. Oh really twenty nine I38400:29:48,359 --> 00:29:52,960don't either. Well, I don'tpay health costs. Yeah, gas hand38500:29:53,039 --> 00:29:57,759to go down. Gasoline's twenty percentbelow last year, higher than it was38600:29:57,839 --> 00:30:00,680a month ago, but lower andit was a year ago. NFL is38700:30:00,720 --> 00:30:07,039dean down eighteen point six percent froma year ago. Kind of hard to38800:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,240just see that. It seems likeit's cost a fortune to fly anywhere.38900:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,519Yeah, it looks like the rentalprices didn't increase two months, but we39000:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,640did have the housing prices continue toincrease. As a year over year,39100:30:19,160 --> 00:30:25,799new listing of homes for sale fellsixteen sixteen point five percent, So continue39200:30:25,799 --> 00:30:29,599to beat on that drum. There'sjust no inventory leading to that supply and39300:30:29,799 --> 00:30:33,200demand dynamic of keeping the house priceshigh, which explains why shelter cost would39400:30:33,200 --> 00:30:40,480have would have been elevated. Exactly. We got to hit on Tuesday,39500:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,599I believe it was when Moody's cameout and downgraded to credit rating on a39600:30:42,640 --> 00:30:48,039few banks, put a few otherson watch higher interest rates, dean straining39700:30:48,079 --> 00:30:51,000their balance sheets. As you know. The other thing that got hit with39800:30:51,079 --> 00:30:56,640the chip stocks in a video AMDbecause of Biden a stroke of the pen.39900:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,480I'm not so sure. It's nota good idea. I don't know40000:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,759why. It's a one sided thing, you know what I'm saying. But40100:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,480basically it's limiting what they can sellto to China because they don't want all40200:31:07,559 --> 00:31:10,799chips being used and they won't yeh. But did you see I mean that40300:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,920was Tuesday and or earlier in theweekend. Then later in the weekend video40400:31:12,920 --> 00:31:18,400announced that there's five billion dollars worththe chips were bought by China tech giants40500:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,519like Ali, Baba, bay Do, ten Cent by Dance, all of40600:31:21,559 --> 00:31:25,240them, and they're trying to buyat least one hundred thousand chips this year.40700:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,680It's that it's not their best one, it's a eight hundred. But40800:31:27,839 --> 00:31:30,759they do like they don't want himusing the new one. I think it's40900:31:30,799 --> 00:31:33,039not Yeah, the h they're notletting him use the H one h one41000:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,200hundred one No, but this isthey want this for AI. But they're41100:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,039not getting and Video's newest one,and then the one that they haven't even41200:31:40,119 --> 00:31:42,319they just announced a new one,which was interesting. We're talking about that,41300:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,119and Video dropped about four percent theday they announced that they're coming out41400:31:47,119 --> 00:31:51,119with a new chip to make AIeven more powerful. It dropped. They41500:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,039haven't started shipping it or selling oranything. They just announced it. It41600:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,480dropped about four percent that day.And then the day after, five billion41700:31:56,519 --> 00:32:00,559dollars worth of the older chip isgetting shipped over to China to those big41800:32:00,599 --> 00:32:05,920tech companies, right, and that'swhat what they they Biden prohibited them selling41900:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,960them the best chip, right,yeah, and so that you get the42000:32:08,359 --> 00:32:13,400Class B and now they're prohibiting that. So they must be hurriling to try42100:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,079to get that before he shuts thaton. And it's interesting to stock about42200:32:15,359 --> 00:32:20,640the year, so they must bethat must go into effect. And the42300:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,279week I was just saying, theywant one hundred thousand and each by the42400:32:22,359 --> 00:32:25,400end of the year. Yeah,what's going Then a move by Biden was42500:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,000to try to because then Video cameup with this ohokay, Plan B right,42600:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,000yeah, which is a less powerfulchip but still a good chip.42700:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,119Still put them behind the app allthough. Yeah, yeah, now,42800:32:35,119 --> 00:32:37,079and now he wants to get awayto do away with that, which is42900:32:37,559 --> 00:32:39,440I'm with you, Dean, I'mI think it's probably not a terrible idea.43000:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,880Yeah, I agree with that one. But what's good? So everyone's43100:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,920like trying to sell off in thevideo someplace in here. The video is43200:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,680going to stop going down. Itmight go down to three fifty to four43300:32:50,759 --> 00:32:52,680hundred, right, but everyone thinksthey can pick the bottom, pick the43400:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,160top. You own no video rightnow for the reasons you own it.43500:32:58,039 --> 00:33:02,319Nothing's changed. They still have theAI chip that everybody needs. They'll charge43600:33:02,359 --> 00:33:06,680more for that chip if they can'tsell it to other places. Plus they43700:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,319have this other chip that's even biggerand better, So they're already replacing the43800:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,200chips that they have to the companiesthat need them. Yeah, and what43900:33:13,279 --> 00:33:16,720that new chip is gonna do ishelp companies reduce their costs with their all44000:33:16,759 --> 00:33:21,039their AI ambitions because of how powerfulit is. They'll have to just pretty44100:33:21,079 --> 00:33:22,759much by the one or something likethat. It's a lot less, soill44200:33:22,759 --> 00:33:29,000help them reduce the cost. Butthis is how I think, and I44300:33:29,079 --> 00:33:32,240don't you know who knows. Obviouslythere's risking everything, but somewhere between three44400:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,640fifty and four hundred. If youdon't own it, you try to look44500:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,759though, because I think what willhappen has come down and as it gets44600:33:37,799 --> 00:33:43,720closer to a turning periods, ifit's it's gonna stock going up again because44700:33:43,759 --> 00:33:46,359their earnings are probably gonna blow awayestimates again. I mean, look,44800:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,519it went down ten percent last week. If you're looking for an opportunity to44900:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,359get feetwell within video, that's thetime to looked at it. And it45000:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,960could go back down to two hundred. It could easily, But that's if45100:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,640you believe in the stock, youbelieve in the future that they're also a45200:33:58,759 --> 00:34:01,200decade ahead with their AI in thechips. Then you keep buying it.45300:34:01,279 --> 00:34:05,359As it goes down, you justkeep lowering your unit costs until it starts45400:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,159taking off. The same way wewere talking about it a year ago when45500:34:07,239 --> 00:34:09,880it went all the way down fromto one oh eight from three hundred.45600:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,880The same idea. It's a volatileholding though, I mean, it's the45700:34:13,960 --> 00:34:19,079four hundred stock that moves ten fifteentwenty dollars a days ago two hundred dollars45800:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,320down, right, But you makeyou make that as part of whatever allocation45900:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,960you want, right okay, Andthen it goes up. You take some46000:34:24,079 --> 00:34:27,920off the table, but you stillhold something that's a core position. Right46100:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,280now. Yeah, you don't haveto buy one hundred shares. We talked46200:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,599about all the time. If youwant, you could. If you want46300:34:31,639 --> 00:34:36,079a video to be three percent ofyour entire portfolio, it runs up the46400:34:36,119 --> 00:34:37,239four and fifty dollars a share,all of a sudden, it's six percent46500:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,039of your portfolio. Sell the threepercent of profits, and then you're back46600:34:40,079 --> 00:34:43,639to where you started. But youhave three percent of locked in profits.46700:34:44,239 --> 00:34:50,079Right absolutely, absolutely. The interestrates edged up this past week, which46800:34:50,119 --> 00:34:54,760it took gold down and gold downtwenty six bucks golds ten percent lower since46900:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,840May, just since May. Sothey're on TV howking the heck out of47000:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,800it? And that always tells youwhenever you hear the majority of the commercials47100:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,159talking about putting their money in goldand and and and being and I'm surprised,47200:35:09,199 --> 00:35:15,440you know how all these uh thesefamous people we're advertising pitcoin and how47300:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,079they got in trouble? How didthese guys want to go through that with47400:35:19,199 --> 00:35:22,599gold? Now? Okay, becausethey're they're selling stuff, they're promoting something47500:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,239without a license seems like it,right, We can't do that. We47600:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,400need licenses. We just even talkingthis radio show the way we talk and47700:35:31,719 --> 00:35:37,639be open and and give our opinions, it suppos have licenses. We've got47800:35:37,679 --> 00:35:39,599seven tenths of a percent of spreadon the ten year and two year,47900:35:39,679 --> 00:35:43,920Todd, which is narrowing a littlebit. It is. I don't know48000:35:44,039 --> 00:35:46,840that it gets back to the normalyield spread anytime soon. That long end48100:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,360keeps deepening. All right, you'lllisten to the money amount of show.48200:35:51,440 --> 00:35:58,159We'll be right back with another segmentto hopefully make you happy. Say it's48300:35:58,199 --> 00:36:07,280all a bab Welcome back, everybody. This is the money about the show.48400:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,320We got everybody here today, Dave, Dylan, Todd, and myself.48500:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,559During the monologue, I told youwe were going to talk about what48600:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,760the Monte Carlo. It really isn'tme, and so I'm going to turn48700:36:16,800 --> 00:36:22,679it over to Dylan and Todd,who work as off basically all our financial48800:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,440plans. They put him together andget to know everybody. Yeah, and48900:36:25,519 --> 00:36:30,239Todd go into the details about whatthe Monty Carlo is, but the overview49000:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,079is that it is part of thefinancial plan in the sense that it gives49100:36:34,159 --> 00:36:37,199us an idea of their probability ofsuccess with everything that we put into the49200:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,880beginning of the financial plan, yourexpenses, your social security, your current49300:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,360income, your expected expenses during retirement, your finance, your finances, your49400:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,280investments, and he houses, anyrental properties. All of that gets brought49500:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,000into one picture. And then that'swhat comes to the Monty Carlos simulation,49600:36:55,079 --> 00:37:00,079which Todd, Yeah, it's reallyfascinating for myself, I'm a geek it49700:37:00,159 --> 00:37:04,199comes to this stuff because it reallycomes down to quantifying risk. It's a49800:37:04,360 --> 00:37:09,599very hard thing for any business,individual organization to quantify how risky their portfolio49900:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,400is because there's so many ways todo it. One way to do it50000:37:13,559 --> 00:37:17,239is to use a Monty Carlos simulation. And this is actually how gambling organizations50100:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,000use to find exactly how they're profitableor not on a certain game. Every50200:37:22,199 --> 00:37:28,280game has a certain set of assumptionsand possibilities of return based on different payouts,50300:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,639and then they can run that throughthe Monty car simulation and using a50400:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,159trial, say ten thousand different trials, they'll know exactly what's their expected profit.50500:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,639As a business. You can dothat same thing for your financial plan.50600:37:39,159 --> 00:37:43,639Can we have all the assumptions yoursocial security, your pensions, how50700:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,239much you're putting away into the forwardk, even down to the way you're50800:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,840allocated in your investment accounts. Basedon all tho those assumptions, you're going50900:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,159to get a certain type of investmentreturn. Obviously, if you're more conservative,51000:37:54,159 --> 00:37:58,280you're gonna have a lower return lessstandard deviation, meaning you're gonna have51100:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,639less volatility. If you have moreaggressive, you're gonna have a lot more51200:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,760volatility, but you should have alsoa higher rate of return in the long51300:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,000run. All of these assumptions willdictate how the Monty Carlo simulation comes out.51400:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,400And what it does is it takesa thousand different trials of your financial51500:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,679plan against a thousand different return possibilities. Obviously, most financial plans in the51600:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,840past have used things like a standardrate of return of seven percent every single51700:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,199year. We know that's not realistic. It's never gonna happen. You're gonna51800:38:27,199 --> 00:38:30,280have down years, you're gonna haveup years. So the Monty Carlo simulation51900:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,440allows us to see those up anddown years, and we can actually take52000:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,039one of the worst case trials.There's really good ones, and there's really52100:38:37,079 --> 00:38:38,199bad ones. We'll take one ofthe worst case and we'll show that to52200:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,039you and show you how your planis able to survive or not based on52300:38:43,119 --> 00:38:45,559the worst case scenarios. And thenit can go even one step further.52400:38:45,920 --> 00:38:51,400If we have things like tax planningstrategies, if we have different strategies using52500:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,760annuities or investments for income, wecan show what's the probability of success for52600:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,760using this strategy compared to another.What's the probability of success compared to using52700:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,440this tax strategy. Does it actuallyhelp us or hurt us in the long52800:39:04,559 --> 00:39:07,920run. There's so many strategies outthere, and it's hard to know which52900:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,719one is right for you until youactually put a number behind it, you53000:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,679actually put a plan behind it.And that's what really the value that we've53100:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,760been seeing clients obtained from the financialplanning meeting is the peace of mind of53200:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,639knowing there's a lot smarter software doingthe hard work for them and they can53300:39:22,840 --> 00:39:28,199sleep nice. You know, theycan sleep peacefully at night knowing that at53400:39:28,199 --> 00:39:30,679the end of the day, it'snot just some number they're picking, putting53500:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,679up in their head or creating somegeneric Excel sheet. It's a true in53600:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,880depth to the granular detail financial plan. And the reason we like to use53700:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,800one of the worst case scenarios isbecause if your plan works from one of53800:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,800the worst times, then the mostlikely it will work out in the long53900:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,800run and in reality, because younever know what's going to happen when you54000:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,920retire. If you decided to retireright before the dot com bubble, then54100:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,280all of a sudden you had twonegative years in a row, big negative54200:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,519years in a row that could haveaffected your plan immensely. Well, if54300:39:58,559 --> 00:40:00,280you can work out in the longrun, it's nice to be able to54400:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,039see that. It gives you alittle peace of mind. Dean and I54500:40:04,079 --> 00:40:07,880have been doing this for forty yearsand we're both just blown away at the54600:40:07,119 --> 00:40:14,599number of people that are taking advantageof this free offer. If you will,54700:40:14,679 --> 00:40:17,719this free financial plan, Uh,just NonStop and you know, give54800:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,280us a call five two zero fivefour four four nine o nine. Talked54900:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,119to Todd, talked to Dylan,and set something up. Come on in55000:40:25,119 --> 00:40:30,960and do it. There's no downsidethere obligation and it's awful popular. Yeah,55100:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,320I like my dad was saying,it's not something that we're gonna hold55200:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,800hostage. If you don't do businesswith us, we will give you the55300:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,360financial plan right after we're done.We'll email it to and it's yours to55400:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,880keep, and we can update itat any time too. Just different scenarios55500:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,280come up, and we're definitely hereto help. Right, We've helped many55600:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,199people that we've never actually did businesswith, but we showed them in the55700:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,039right directions. You want a funfact, let's hear it. Of course55800:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,639this is this one's surprised me.McDonald's right, sells more chicken than beef.55900:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,599I had no idea. That blowsme. The chicken nuggets, I56000:41:00,679 --> 00:41:07,599guess the chicken nuggets, which donaldsells more chicken than than beef. They're56100:41:07,639 --> 00:41:12,360the number two of cellar of Chickenin the in the world, behind Kentucky56200:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,639Fried Chicken interest more chicken than beef. I I thought I had to check56300:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,599it through or four different places.I couldn't believe that was true, but56400:41:19,679 --> 00:41:21,760they do. Never would have thoughtthat, but it does make sense.56500:41:22,159 --> 00:41:27,079You know that it was illegal topump your own gas in Oregon until last56600:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,880week. Last week? Yeah,what do you mean I can't pump your56700:41:30,920 --> 00:41:36,159own gas? Yeah, for seventyseven years, you have been unable to56800:41:36,199 --> 00:41:38,840pump your own gas in Oregon.That's how Mexico is. You can't do56900:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,199in Mexico. They have people outthere and they're supposed to do it for57000:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,039it's a combination of two things,according to Oregon. But they did change57100:41:45,039 --> 00:41:50,559it last week, leaving only NewJersey. New Jersey still will not allow57200:41:50,599 --> 00:41:52,920you to pump your own gas.That's the only state you're talking about.57300:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,840I pump gas in New Jersey.You cannot pump your own gas in the57400:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,039state of New Jersey. It's illegal. It's the only state work it's illegal.57500:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,920I don't know, Dave, Okay, I don't know. He's somebody57600:42:01,960 --> 00:42:07,480from New Jersey calls the office andwhen did that come about? Because I57700:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,159remember that it's always been illegal inNew Jersey always. It's the last state,57800:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,639because you've been there how many times? It's the last it's in the57900:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,039legislation. I'm just on just likeyou know, I don't have to go58000:42:19,159 --> 00:42:22,360somewhere. Didn't know what the factsare, the the and it's it's it's58100:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,360the last state. That uh.The article I was reading about Oregon voting58200:42:27,639 --> 00:42:32,360and leaving only New Jersey as theonly state where gas and it was a58300:42:32,599 --> 00:42:37,199there was two thought from New Jersey. I don't remember anyone pumping my gas.58400:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,599Well, I think that's too muchinformation to be honestly. My friends,58500:42:42,679 --> 00:42:44,559my friend that lives there, soI'm gonna see what he's it's the58600:42:44,639 --> 00:42:49,199g rated show. Stop that goingfor the week, though, I don't58700:42:49,199 --> 00:42:51,199know if we talked about it youwere coming up to the end of the58800:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,639first hour. The Dow was upfor point six percent for the week.58900:42:53,039 --> 00:42:55,599The S ANDP was down point threepercent, and the NASDAC was down two59000:42:55,639 --> 00:42:59,519percent, hit big by a lotof the big tech companies like Nvidia.59100:43:00,039 --> 00:43:02,440The small cap Russell two thousand wasdown one point six percent, and then59200:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,719the RSP, which is the equalweight at SMP five hundred, was flat,59300:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,280completely flat for the week. Isn'tthat amazing? I haven't seen that59400:43:09,320 --> 00:43:15,400in a while. Did you seeTabula RASI the last week? Tabular rassa59500:43:15,559 --> 00:43:19,519is is Uh, there's a lotof University of Arizona's involved with them.59600:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,440Uh. It's a I guess ahealthcare company, right, this will talk59700:43:24,480 --> 00:43:30,840about a ride. Uh. Thisstock seven years of the public company has59800:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,559started at fifteen bucks. It ralliedup to ninety one dollars and then it59900:43:35,679 --> 00:43:38,760plunged to two dollars about a yearago. On Monday, they were taken60000:43:38,800 --> 00:43:45,039over by Nautic Partner's private equity tenand a half bucks to share. There's60100:43:45,079 --> 00:43:50,000a lot of there's a lot oftwosonans who have been involved in Tabula rasa60200:43:50,159 --> 00:43:52,840along the way, and uh,several of our clients have been involved with60300:43:52,920 --> 00:43:58,320Tabula rasa. Uh. Tesla.Big news on Tesla this past week with60400:43:58,440 --> 00:44:04,599their CFO leaving. That's right,he's stepping down effective immediately. He's been60500:44:04,679 --> 00:44:09,039with Tesla since twenty ten. He'sbeen the CFO since twenty nineteen. The60600:44:09,119 --> 00:44:14,119good news is and whenever a CFOleaves, it always creates a little bit60700:44:14,159 --> 00:44:15,400of concern. You know, what, does he know? What's he been60800:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,559doing? Uh, you know,because he's a pretty powerful person. Maybe60900:44:19,599 --> 00:44:22,360it's just incompetent. Well, he'sgonna still it looks the other side.61000:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,079It's always the company. Everyone looksat it. That's true, Ding,61100:44:27,199 --> 00:44:29,599That's absolutely true. Whenever a CFOleaves, though, as you know,61200:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,800it generally creates a little bit ofconcern with the stock. He's gonna stay61300:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,599though until the end of the yearto help with the transition. So obviously61400:44:37,639 --> 00:44:43,079he's not getting fired. He's probablyhas enough one hundred million dollars accounts to61500:44:43,639 --> 00:44:46,159handle things. Maybe he's got anotheranother scenario that he's looking at and says,61600:44:46,159 --> 00:44:50,639hey, you know it's this willbe exciting. I'm tired of doing61700:44:50,679 --> 00:44:52,480it. A lot of it seemslike a lot of executives from big companies61800:44:52,559 --> 00:44:55,199like that in amazonic Google, andI'll leave to go do more of the61900:44:55,239 --> 00:45:00,079startup stuff. Yeah, the right, because it's smaller, they can do62000:45:00,199 --> 00:45:01,920it. They were in control.They can. If they're gonna make money,62100:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,280they've already made money. But theycan make a big, big hit62200:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,480and that's why they do it.Yeah, they Warren buffet over the weekend.62300:45:08,599 --> 00:45:14,039Last weekend, company stock rally toan all time high after they reported62400:45:14,159 --> 00:45:19,599a second quarter earnings were better thanexpected. Cash Hart has grown to one62500:45:19,679 --> 00:45:27,519hundred and fifty billion dollars billion dollarsand Occidental Petroleum is one of his biggest62600:45:27,599 --> 00:45:32,360positions. Has done absolutely nothing nothing. Earnings were driven by a seventy four62700:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,360percent increase in insurance earnings and thenwhat do we say was the number one62800:45:38,000 --> 00:45:45,480increase in prices year over year?Insurance insurance. The insurance are the higher62900:45:45,559 --> 00:45:51,000premiums and lower claims. THO wasthe insurance premiums that drove Warren Buffets the63000:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,360company to a new all time high. Higher interest rates are helping them out.63100:45:53,960 --> 00:45:59,920Because you've got one hundred and fiftybillion dollars that's now earning five percent63200:46:00,119 --> 00:46:04,119entins did a zero. That'll makea little bit of a difference on your63300:46:04,159 --> 00:46:07,639balance sheet, don't you know.It's not the one point five billion dollars63400:46:07,800 --> 00:46:13,280that the Florida lottery person won.What would you do with one point five63500:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,480billion dollars? One point five billion, Well, okay, so you're only63600:46:17,519 --> 00:46:21,760going to get a billion, you'reonly gonna get a billion, Create an63700:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,800indumbment on off the billion dollars.I would do good things with it.63800:46:27,199 --> 00:46:30,760Unfortunately, it seems like the peoplethat get it don't know what to do63900:46:30,880 --> 00:46:36,719with it. They get just smotheredby all these people that think they can64000:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,719tell them what to do, andthey usually end up losing everything they have.64100:46:39,039 --> 00:46:43,280Yeah, I had one earlier inmy career. I had an auto64200:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,840mechanic that one one nine million,which back then was a big, big64300:46:47,000 --> 00:46:52,000number twenty five years ago, andyou know his wife was a hairdresser and64400:46:52,039 --> 00:46:54,679he was a mechanic. First thingthey do is buy a corvette. Second64500:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,320second thing they did was buy anRV. They started traveling around the country64600:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,480enjoying a lite and came to yourtwo Cian Arizona. Though, I'm going64700:47:01,519 --> 00:47:07,280to live here, and so theysettled, settled here and h mostly real64800:47:07,400 --> 00:47:12,280estate was what they what they werecomfortable with, what they understood. Ups64900:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,960not participating in this year's rally Openlower on Tuesday, disappointing quarter lower guidance.65000:47:16,360 --> 00:47:21,800Often Deane Ups is seen as aneconomic barometer. They also had that65100:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,880economic dispute with their labor. They'realso increasing their benefits and everything their whole65200:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,800package. They're increasing it from anaverage one hundred forty five thousand dollars to65300:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,559one hundred and seventy five thousand dollarsper comploy. All right, we'll coming65400:47:31,639 --> 00:47:34,920up to the top of the hour. We'll be back to bring you the65500:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,199money amount of show. But bythe way, Dave, I wanted a65600:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,280billion and a half, I'd buya professional football team. I bet you65700:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,639would, right back. This isthe moneybout of the show. Appreciate your65800:47:43,679 --> 00:47:52,000living Living, watch listening and Levyand Levy. Welcome back everybody. It's65900:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,000the Money Matter Show, Second Hour. I appreciate your listening. Matter.66000:47:54,039 --> 00:47:58,920You can listen on podcasts. Youcan listen by going to our radio show66100:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,880a website and just click on anyof the of the shows that we have66200:48:04,079 --> 00:48:09,880on there. And we also onTV and Saturdays. We have a different66300:48:09,960 --> 00:48:15,320format, but we do some ofthose lie on the K and scls,66400:48:15,519 --> 00:48:17,599So a lot of different ways tolisten to us. And if you miss66500:48:17,639 --> 00:48:22,639it, you just go to websiteand they're all on there. Yeah,66600:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,400So for those of you just turntuning in to the Second Hour, the66700:48:25,519 --> 00:48:29,480DAW was up point six percent forthe week. Last week, the SMP66800:48:29,679 --> 00:48:32,599five hundred was down point three percent, the NAVSDAC was down two percent,66900:48:34,159 --> 00:48:36,800and the Russell two thousand, whichis a small cap was down one point67000:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,079six percent. And then the RSPwhich is the SMP five hundred equal weighted,67100:48:40,559 --> 00:48:44,760was completely flat point zero zero.Yeah, the eyes were all on67200:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,039That inflation number came out on Thursday, came in a below expectation, still67300:48:49,119 --> 00:48:52,719increased from the last month reading.The interesting thing though, is if you67400:48:53,000 --> 00:48:58,400x out shelter right, if youlook at CPI quarter over quarter, and67500:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,920you take shelter away, inflation isbasically gone. So right now, a67600:49:02,039 --> 00:49:06,519lot of the inflation is being ledby those shelter costs. I'll tell you67700:49:06,559 --> 00:49:07,920it doesn't feel like it out inthe real world, and I'm sure our67800:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,719listeners feel the same way. Everytime I go to the grocery store,67900:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,760it seems like it's more. AndI just got a deal that the Hulu68000:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,519subscription is going up and Disney Plusis gonna go up, and just had68100:49:17,519 --> 00:49:22,920a lot of stuff going Panda Pandora, Pandora's going up, and like,68200:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,760are you kidding me? We allyeah, all streaming service. I mean68300:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,719a second job to pay for mystreaming. When Disney Plus first came out68400:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,079a couple of years ago, itwas six dollars. Now it's thirteen ninety68500:49:34,159 --> 00:49:37,760nine. By the way, theyeven with the Dow out performing this past68600:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,559week. Year to date, theDow is up six SMP five hundred,68700:49:42,639 --> 00:49:46,760up sixteen. Yeah still and againthat's the magnificence seven because the nasdac's up68800:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,679thirty. And to echo that point, I mean, if you look at68900:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,239value stocks. I don't know ifyou haven't with you, Dave, but69000:49:52,360 --> 00:49:58,559many times we've seen throughout the year, that value is just underperforming vastly.69100:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,960If you're a conservative investor, andlet's say you want blue ship dividend paying69200:50:02,039 --> 00:50:07,519stocks, value stocks. Let's sayyou've got fifty percent of your portfolio there,69300:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,480and you've got fifty percent of yourportfolio and treasuries. The treasuries are69400:50:12,519 --> 00:50:15,960paying around five percent, So halfwaythrough the year you made two and a69500:50:15,000 --> 00:50:20,320half, but interest rates have edgeda little higher, so you probably have69600:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,199only netted one and a half atthis point, and your value stocks are69700:50:23,639 --> 00:50:30,480are down, so you could honestlybe flat on the year, have made69800:50:30,679 --> 00:50:35,360zero in an environment where the Nasdaqis up thirty percent. It has been69900:50:35,519 --> 00:50:39,480so single minded. Ye. Andit's like if you don't know exactly what70000:50:39,599 --> 00:50:43,559you're invested in, then that you'rekind of probably sitting there with an advisor,70100:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,079or if you're at just one ofthe big wirehouses you don't have a70200:50:45,119 --> 00:50:49,400specific advisor, you're probably confused whileyou're not up. But that's what you70300:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,079chose to do when you first allocatedyour say your four own cake. And70400:50:52,199 --> 00:50:55,199we did have a call, rightand I just have a call from a70500:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,280prospect who says that he's unhappy withthis current advisor, and I said,70600:51:00,320 --> 00:51:05,599the first thing you have to decideis whether it's the advisor or whether it's70700:51:05,639 --> 00:51:08,960your allocation that you're unhappy with.So let's talk a little bit about what70800:51:09,119 --> 00:51:15,159your allocation is. And maybe theadvisor is doing a fine job. You're70900:51:15,239 --> 00:51:20,000in the wrong allocation, and itdoesn't. Everybody want to be in the71000:51:20,119 --> 00:51:23,639exact right place. But if you'rea conservative investor, you can't own the71100:51:23,760 --> 00:51:30,079Magnificent seven as your entire portfolio.You couldn't throw an ETF like if the71200:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,800Spy or the Voo or something likethat. But you're not gonna own a71300:51:34,039 --> 00:51:37,920video or a ton of it outright, if you're conservative investors. It's too71400:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,840risky, right. No advisor,no competent advisor, will put you in71500:51:39,880 --> 00:51:45,079a ton of video if you don'thave a high risk tolerance. The primary,71600:51:45,599 --> 00:51:49,519our primary thing we do here istry to match your investment tolerance with71700:51:49,639 --> 00:51:54,119your portfolio. And that doesn't ifyou come in and you're a conservative investor,71800:51:54,679 --> 00:52:00,960a balanced investor primarily interested in returnof the money, not return on71900:52:01,159 --> 00:52:06,480the money, you're not going tohave a big exposure to an index like72000:52:06,599 --> 00:52:09,599the NASDAC that's all over the place. Down thirty percent last year, up72100:52:09,639 --> 00:52:13,920thirty percent this year. That's notwhere you're going to be. And it's72200:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,800all about the timing in your lifetoo. I mean, if you're retired,72300:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,920you're probably not going to be thataggressive of investor. But if you're72400:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,920young, you probably will be ableto muster the take on those big risks72500:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,559and the volatility of the nastac Yeah, I think if you're under forty years72600:52:28,599 --> 00:52:30,559old, you need to be atleast you need to be fully invested in72700:52:30,639 --> 00:52:35,960the market, because really the onlything you need is we've seen I was72800:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,679a broker when the Dow Jones IndustrialAverage hit one thousand for the first time.72900:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,079I was there working as a brokerwhen the Dow hit one thousand for73000:52:46,159 --> 00:52:51,360the first time. We even hadcaps that said now one thousand. You73100:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,599know, it didn't, it didn'thold. It backed off, you know,73200:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,000got to one thousand and backed off, closed at nine ninety. But73300:52:58,079 --> 00:53:00,480we hit a thousand. It wasa really big deal. Now we're all73400:53:00,480 --> 00:53:06,639the way down to thirty five thousand, two eighty one. So all you73500:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,199need to be successful in the stockmarket, assuming you're you're dealing in quality73600:53:10,719 --> 00:53:16,000holdings, it's time and as athe QQQ has gone up about twelve hundred73700:53:16,039 --> 00:53:20,119percent since two thousand and two,since the dot com bubble about it right73800:53:20,159 --> 00:53:22,920after that. So now it's goneup roughly twelve And you went through the73900:53:23,159 --> 00:53:27,199two thousand and eight it lost sixtypercent, and then last year, I74000:53:27,199 --> 00:53:30,360mean it lost thirty percent. Yeah, it's own twice. Yeah, and74100:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,400it just doesn't matter you just ifyou're young, you've just let it go74200:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,440and don't look at it, anddon't time in your life, and don't74300:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,239try to tweak it. Don't don't, especially with your four oh one k74400:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,760don't it's so easy with the four. Maybe this year I need to put74500:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,559something in Europe. Maybe this yearI need to have more fixed income.74600:53:46,000 --> 00:53:51,800It's you're gonna do the wrong thing. Just if you're young under forty,74700:53:52,119 --> 00:53:54,840Uh, just put it in theSMP five hundred and forget about it.74800:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,599Leave it alone, because that's goingto give you the best performance with the74900:54:00,679 --> 00:54:01,719least amount of stress. Yeah.What I mean the idea is like,75000:54:02,159 --> 00:54:06,159especially for your retirement accounts, ifyou're young, put it in there and75100:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,119forget about it. You can haveanother brokerage account where you want to trade.75200:54:08,159 --> 00:54:10,239Maybe you do you got into options, or you want to do some75300:54:10,320 --> 00:54:15,280foreign trading and stuff like that,but you need to have your retirement plan75400:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,320if you're young. Just let ussit there and don't think twice about it.75500:54:17,679 --> 00:54:20,920Ten and a half percent, yeah, ten and a half percent return75600:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,639over the last fifty years. That'severy seven years. The is gonna double,75700:54:24,079 --> 00:54:28,639right, every seven years. Yourmoney's gonna double if you just leave75800:54:28,679 --> 00:54:32,719it alone and don't screw up.Evy garage. It's time for the Evy75900:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,679garage. Before we get to theEvy come on, really, yes,76000:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,480because I wanted to finish my pointwith value is abnormally oversold. It's a76100:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,360huge I mean, we haven't seenthis type of opportunity since twenty twenty when76200:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,159growth was just taking off. Youcould throw a dart anything, and value76300:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,760is really underperforming. So if youare looking to get into something in this76400:54:53,920 --> 00:54:59,639market, obviously growth is kind ofnot there right now. The value stocks76500:54:59,679 --> 00:55:02,760is where you should be looking becausefrom a sector rotation point of view,76600:55:04,119 --> 00:55:07,880it's two. When you say growthis not there, you mean growth in76700:55:07,079 --> 00:55:13,119value stocks is not there, becausegrowth is definitely there in the girl stocks,76800:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,159right, I'm saying the value ingrowth stocks are yeah, the value76900:55:16,199 --> 00:55:22,639stocks are are showing the performing poorly. Last year, one of the most77000:55:23,519 --> 00:55:29,559one of the worst performing stocks wasSalesforce dot Com. It's now far and77100:55:29,599 --> 00:55:35,159away the number one doll performers thisyear. Boying is another one. So77200:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,159and right now it's value value islast year Salesforce dot Com. And there77300:55:39,199 --> 00:55:45,039are ETFs the values. So anyway, uh, EV garage Again, I'm77400:55:45,119 --> 00:55:49,159not pro EV, I'm not antiEV. I'm a curious guy who's enjoying77500:55:49,199 --> 00:55:54,360the experience. And there's a lotof our clients who call about EV's because77600:55:54,360 --> 00:56:00,559of these segments that have emailed aboutEV's and I would invite you if you77700:56:00,679 --> 00:56:06,000have EV questions, email me,call me. I'm six weeks into this77800:56:06,159 --> 00:56:09,960experience and i feel like I'm gettingto be a bit of of I have77900:56:10,000 --> 00:56:15,000a good a good font of knowledgeof what's right and what's wrong. And78000:56:15,079 --> 00:56:17,239I'm I'm a very straight shooter.I'm not gonna lie to you and sau78100:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,280it's the greatest thing ever, andI'm also not going to tell you it's78200:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,199the worst thing you could possibly do. I'm gonna give you the pros,78300:56:23,199 --> 00:56:28,119I'll give you the cons. Inthe EV Garage, this week is Texas.78400:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,079The Texas legislature and the governor signedto pass the law last week that78500:56:32,280 --> 00:56:39,000assesses electric vehicle owners four hundred dollarsadditional when they register the vehicle, and78600:56:39,159 --> 00:56:44,599it assesses them two hundred and moredollars per year to renew. Now that78700:56:44,719 --> 00:56:49,039makes sense actually, because they're usingthe same roads as the people with internal78800:56:49,079 --> 00:56:52,039combustion engines, but they're not payingfor them. They're not paying the gas78900:56:52,159 --> 00:56:58,559tax. What I have a problemwith this Texas is gas tax is twenty79000:56:58,639 --> 00:57:02,199cents a gallon, So two hundreddollars, which is your renewal, would79100:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,679be a thousand gallons. And ifyou're getting let's say twenty miles to the79200:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,360gallon, which I think is probablykind of an average, that's two that's79300:57:09,400 --> 00:57:15,480twenty thousand miles a year. That'sdouble what the average person drives. So79400:57:15,639 --> 00:57:19,199the EV owners getting ripped off alittle bit on this deal. And I79500:57:19,239 --> 00:57:22,800don't think there's too many people inthe Texas legislature worried about people who can79600:57:22,840 --> 00:57:28,639afford an EV right now and hopefullythey'll be cheaper in the future, not79700:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,800crying for people that own an EV. There are a few things that are79800:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,000wrong with an EVY. I founda new one. We know that they79900:57:36,039 --> 00:57:38,960don't have a spare tire. That'sto me, that's a huge negative for80000:57:39,079 --> 00:57:42,679taking it out on the road,even if the battery would get you to80100:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,800San Diego. No spare tire,to me, is a real problem.80200:57:46,679 --> 00:57:50,920You can buy a spare tire forfive hundred bucks a spare tire kit.80300:57:51,000 --> 00:57:58,440So no serious XM radio in manymodels, which is kind of a problem.80400:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,199I'm a big serious XM radio guy. Lucid is actually doing a campaign80500:58:02,320 --> 00:58:07,960right now where they're going to haveserious XM on their main screen. Uh,80600:58:07,119 --> 00:58:09,920this is the promotional and Lucid,of course, is one hundred thousand80700:58:09,920 --> 00:58:17,360dollar vehicle. It's not a fortythousand dollars Tesla Model three. But Tesla,80800:58:17,559 --> 00:58:23,559the most technologically advanced vehicle on theroad, has not figured out a80900:58:23,679 --> 00:58:28,400way to have the hardware to pickup serious XM. What I learned this81000:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,599week one one more thing is mostevs, if not all evs, do81100:58:32,840 --> 00:58:42,280not have AM radio. No AMradio. It creates electro magnetic interference.81200:58:43,199 --> 00:58:46,559Interesting, so U no no sparetire, no XM radio, and no81300:58:46,840 --> 00:58:52,239AM radio. Well I found outsomething about electric cars tell me about it.81400:58:52,599 --> 00:58:57,599As the demand for these evs rise, so will there are total emissions81500:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,079at least as long as we continueto lie on fossil fuels for the energy81600:59:01,159 --> 00:59:06,320grid. In fact, when youfactor in the emissions from the energy used81700:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,199to charge their batteries, evs actuallyemit about half the greenhouse gases of their81800:59:10,280 --> 00:59:17,119internal combustion counterparts. That's also notincluding the cost the emission cost to the81900:59:17,199 --> 00:59:22,760planet that was used for all themines used to produce the battery, all82000:59:22,800 --> 00:59:28,280the lithium, all that copper thathas to be mind somewhere. Those miners82100:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,760are not using electric minor trucks andthings like that, they're using fossil fuels82200:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,599to mind those things. Also,mining itself is produced greenhouse gases. So82300:59:38,039 --> 00:59:44,159there is a lot to still bedone until we actually make this thing work.82400:59:44,559 --> 00:59:46,119Because at the end of the day, it's kind of like that picture82500:59:46,159 --> 00:59:50,800I saw with a Tesla and adiesel generation sitting in the back of the82600:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,760tesla just charging the Tesla. It'slike we're just doing you know, we're82700:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,480making ourselves look cool, I guess, but we're not really solving the problem.82800:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,159I think where what we're doing iswe're lowering. I think when we82901:00:01,239 --> 01:00:06,639talked about this a little bit lastweek, that is, if and I83001:00:06,880 --> 01:00:12,519don't disagree with one thing you said, it's absolutely factually accurate. I'm wondering83101:00:12,559 --> 01:00:16,320too, if you take a bulldozerto get x amount of lithium out of83201:00:16,400 --> 01:00:22,679the ground, if that lithium canthen produce fifty electric cars, that's a83301:00:22,679 --> 01:00:24,280pretty good trade off. Well,it's it's it's fascinating you bring that up,83401:00:24,280 --> 01:00:30,400because actually, when when these minersare building these, well, when83501:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,519they're mining it, the amount oflithium used for an all fuel cell electric83601:00:34,880 --> 01:00:40,400EV battery is the same lithium neededto produce five hybrid batteries. So in83701:00:40,559 --> 01:00:47,079terms of emissions cost per unit produced, the better bet would be doing hybrids83801:00:47,320 --> 01:00:52,440because when a person has a hybrideighty percent sixty to eighty percent at the83901:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,320time, it's the EV battery doingthe work, which therefore you can bring84001:00:55,440 --> 01:01:00,920down the emission per person that they'reemitting using their cars down to sixty eighty.84101:01:00,199 --> 01:01:05,199So if you have five people reducingtheir emissions down sixty to eighty percent84201:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,079compared to just one person reducing allof their emissions one hundred percent, well,84301:01:08,159 --> 01:01:12,159that five people, you save alot more and you save it on84401:01:12,239 --> 01:01:15,360the front end too, So froma hybrid point of view, it makes84501:01:15,360 --> 01:01:20,519a lot more sense right now untilwe see an incredible new EV battery being84601:01:20,599 --> 01:01:22,599produced. At the end of theday. Even if we have a five84701:01:22,679 --> 01:01:25,679hundred mile battery, yeah, maybemore people buy it, but you still84801:01:25,719 --> 01:01:29,400need all that lithium for that batteryto be produced. Well, I don't84901:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,480think the test. Toyota, ofcourse, the largest car builder in the85001:01:32,559 --> 01:01:37,079world, has been more focused onhybrid, and hybrid does make a lot85101:01:37,159 --> 01:01:40,880of sense if they recently made theswitch, made a new CEO or electric.85201:01:40,960 --> 01:01:45,039I don't know it's gonna be allin, but but they've they've been85301:01:45,199 --> 01:01:50,599more The new CEO is more embracingthe EV technology and imagine it's going to85401:01:50,599 --> 01:01:52,079be a full switch because their priestis their number one. Yeah, I85501:01:52,079 --> 01:01:57,079mean that's been there, but they'veagain two weeks ago they announced that seven85601:01:57,199 --> 01:02:00,320hundred and fifty mile battery in asolid state it's not lithium batteries, solid85701:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,599state batteries, So if you geta solid state battery, they can really85801:02:04,719 --> 01:02:07,199goes into a solid state pardon whatgoes into a solid state an expert on85901:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,119that. I have no idea either, But those are the type of things86001:02:09,159 --> 01:02:13,880where it's like it sounds fmion batteries, what is the bottom line, right,86101:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,079and what goes in? But thesetype of ideas are in many different86201:02:16,119 --> 01:02:20,360industries where they look great on paper, but when you actually dig into the86301:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,800components, that's where you actually thedevil's in the details, right. I86401:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,880mean, when you just pose aquestion, are these good for the planet?86501:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,199Okay, you can it's it's probablyeasier to say yes to that question.86601:02:31,760 --> 01:02:36,960But when you actually ask the detailedquestions around that general question, you86701:02:37,039 --> 01:02:40,599start to paint a really different picture. Regardless, in twenty twenty, five86801:02:40,719 --> 01:02:46,000percent of vehicle sales were electric onein twenty In twenty twenty one, that86901:02:46,159 --> 01:02:51,199had doubled right to nine percent,are almost doubled twenty two. That's it's87001:02:51,239 --> 01:02:54,880fourteen percent. So this year we'reat eighteen percent so far, So we87101:02:55,239 --> 01:02:59,519went from one in twenty to onein five. What's also because a lot87201:02:59,519 --> 01:03:01,199of other com but these are producingelectric cars? Now, oh yeah,87301:03:01,679 --> 01:03:06,119I mean it's either either get inor be left behind, right, I'm87401:03:06,119 --> 01:03:09,239sure I think that's probably the concern. But if these evs outpaced the rate87501:03:09,320 --> 01:03:14,679of our renewable energy production. Well, then at the end of the day,87601:03:14,719 --> 01:03:17,000we're still going to be using fossilfuels for these evs, So it's87701:03:17,079 --> 01:03:23,280going to increase the emissions. I'mconfused, And again I'm not pron you're87801:03:23,320 --> 01:03:30,320saying that that as long as it'slithium ion batteries, the cost of mining87901:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,559the material, and it doesn't evenhave to be lithium dave because still if88001:03:34,599 --> 01:03:37,320there's a mine of any I meanto be produced battery, it's going to88101:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,039be starting for a mine. Right, those trucks mining that is not running88201:03:40,039 --> 01:03:45,119on electricity, they're running on fossilfuels as well. That entire operations running88301:03:45,119 --> 01:03:47,920on fossil fuels. And still whenyou're charging your battery, that also is88401:03:49,039 --> 01:03:52,039running on fossil fuels the majority ofthe time. So as we have all88501:03:52,039 --> 01:03:54,800these people on evs, is thatcontinues to increase more people are using that88601:03:54,960 --> 01:04:00,880energy grid which relies on fossil fuels, which still emits things into the atmosphere.88701:04:00,039 --> 01:04:04,199Well, they's absolutely true, andthe two of the big arguments.88801:04:04,239 --> 01:04:08,079Of course, one of the argumentsis that the other side of that is88901:04:08,559 --> 01:04:14,280most evs are recharging overnight when theenergy grid is there, it's available.89001:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,159It's not that it's not there,it's that you're still burning. No,89101:04:17,239 --> 01:04:20,840but it's producing the energy whether youuse it or not. Right, I'm89201:04:20,880 --> 01:04:25,400not debating or not we don't haveenough energy capacity. That's not the debate89301:04:25,519 --> 01:04:30,039I'm saying. But it's just it'snot generating any additional pollution with charging overnight,89401:04:30,079 --> 01:04:33,360because that's not producing because if wedidn't have if we didn't have it89501:04:33,440 --> 01:04:39,119in there anyways, and then weuse it. Right, But it's going89601:04:39,159 --> 01:04:43,960to produce the electricity whether whether they'rewhether it's being used or not. That's89701:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,800why the rates drop at night totry to people to use it. Yeah,89801:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,719so it's being produced whether use itor not. So they're using,89901:04:50,280 --> 01:04:54,960they're not creating an additional pollution.I guess it's yeah, So you know,90001:04:55,159 --> 01:04:59,320six to one half doesn't no other. When I look at Tesla selling90101:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,760five hundred thousand of these vehicles everythree months and everybody else telling you know,90201:05:02,880 --> 01:05:10,239ten whatever, the one thing thatsticks in my mind is is that's90301:05:10,280 --> 01:05:15,239a big step towards energy independence.In my opinion, that's a big step90401:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,719towards energy and it depends and youcan tell by all of the negative ev90501:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,719articles you should seeing out there thatthey Okay, oil companies are getting very90601:05:21,760 --> 01:05:26,360nervous, but I also is listeningto a fascinating podcast about energy usage.90701:05:26,599 --> 01:05:32,199No matter what we do as aworld, our fossil fuel usage will continue90801:05:32,199 --> 01:05:35,840to increase. And this is whythose third world countries, which is a90901:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,599lot more of the world than wethink it is, probably about fifty percent91001:05:39,639 --> 01:05:43,719of the world. Those people aren'tusing fossil fuels like we are right now,91101:05:44,639 --> 01:05:47,360Right per capita, we are usingprobably ten x the amount of fossil91201:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,840fuels any third world country person ismakes time. So even if we cut91301:05:50,960 --> 01:05:58,159our carbon foot down, they arecoming into prosperity, right they're coming out91401:05:58,199 --> 01:06:00,400of poverty into prosperity. We didthe same thing, but we did it91501:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,039one hundred years ago. Now they'redoing it, which means they're fossil fuel91601:06:04,039 --> 01:06:08,039input increases. And there's a lotmore of those people than there's are of91701:06:08,199 --> 01:06:12,599us. Trust is the West Westerncountry the world's maybe make up one two91801:06:12,639 --> 01:06:16,159billion macs of the world. Thevast majority are coming out of poverty just91901:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,639now. And as those people usemore and more falsil fuels. They're outpacing92001:06:20,800 --> 01:06:26,960our deductions. And I think anyonethat thinks the electric vehicles, and this92101:06:27,119 --> 01:06:30,920is from a Tesla owner, anyonethat thinks electric vehicles are going to solve92201:06:30,000 --> 01:06:34,840the planet's problems is mistaken. Well, it's anyone who thinks our fossil fuel92301:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,960input as a planet is going togo down. It's just not looking at92401:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,199the facts. Unless you want peopleto stay in poverty. No, that's92501:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,000that's the alternative. I like.I like the oil companies being concerned about92601:06:46,119 --> 01:06:53,400the gas taxes and about not enoughgasoline being purchased and not enough oil being92701:06:53,719 --> 01:06:57,559used. I kind of like that. Actually it feels good. I had92801:06:57,599 --> 01:07:02,199a client call me and asking andI don't mean to dominate this segment which92901:07:02,199 --> 01:07:06,840I'm doing. Colin asked me aboutshort selling, and we talk a little93001:07:06,880 --> 01:07:13,000bit about short selling and what shortselling really means. If you just a93101:07:13,159 --> 01:07:15,760quick segment, if you believe astock is overvalued, you might be able93201:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,679to borrow the stock and sell itwithout owning it. In other words,93301:07:18,679 --> 01:07:23,360you're going to sell it short shortbecause you don't own it. You have93401:07:23,599 --> 01:07:26,519to get approval to borrow the stockif you want to sell it short.93501:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,519From the firm that has your account. You have to get that approval ahead93601:07:30,519 --> 01:07:33,360of time. That's relatively new withinthe last few years. If a stock's93701:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,079in a free fall and everyone knowsit's going to go lower, you may93801:07:36,119 --> 01:07:40,320not be able to borrow the stockas all of that stock's already been alone93901:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,159because everybody knows it's going down andbe able to buy it back cheaper.94001:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,719And that's the whole idea with shortselling is you sell it at twenty because94101:07:45,719 --> 01:07:48,199you're going to be able to buyit back at fifteen. It's just a94201:07:48,280 --> 01:07:53,239reverse of how we normally think ofthings. The big negative with short selling94301:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,360is you're taking on unlimited risk whenyou buy a stock. The worst you94401:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,280can do is lose the money thatyou have invested. You know, you94501:08:00,320 --> 01:08:01,599buy one hundred shares at the twentybucks, you get two thousand dollars.94601:08:01,800 --> 01:08:06,119That's the most you can lose.Right If you're shortest stock, you must94701:08:06,199 --> 01:08:10,679buy it back at some point andthere is no limit how high it can94801:08:10,760 --> 01:08:16,159go. Great example is Carbona.The stock had gone from fifty eight to94901:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,720three in a period of about fourmonths and looked like it was going straight95001:08:20,760 --> 01:08:26,920to the scrap heap. You couldn'tgo wrong if you could somehow borrow carbon95101:08:27,039 --> 01:08:30,640the stock and sell it because youknew you were going to be able to95201:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,600buy it back cheaper. Went fromfifty eight to three. Guess what,95301:08:34,479 --> 01:08:39,960it's stabilized there, and fortunately foryou, you probably couldn't have borrowed the95401:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,760stock because there's so much had alreadybeen led out. But it has now95501:08:43,960 --> 01:08:50,239reversed dramatically and rallied eight hundred andfifty percent this year. You had to95601:08:50,279 --> 01:08:54,520buy it back at some point.If you haven't bought it back yet,95701:08:54,920 --> 01:08:59,600you're down eight hundred and fifty percentplus the loan interests plus the loan interests.95801:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,880Right, it's a well on ashort way saying I'm on a short95901:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,039sale. There's no loan interest.I don't pay a loan interest on short96001:09:06,079 --> 01:09:12,359sale. You're borrowing money. No, I'm not borrowing money. I'm borrowing96101:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,600stock and the I think the firmmust pay for that, because I've done96201:09:16,680 --> 01:09:21,520some shorting in my life and I'venever paid interest. So there's no something96301:09:21,920 --> 01:09:27,119what was it arrow capital or whateverthe guy killed with the game stop short?96401:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,960Right? Yeah, I thought theylost because they had to keep coming96501:09:30,039 --> 01:09:31,640up with collateral well, I thinkthey probably had to bor They probably borrowed96601:09:31,680 --> 01:09:35,159the money to do the short Butbut the only thing you have to come96701:09:35,239 --> 01:09:39,159up with on a short sale isthe dividends. If there are any dividends96801:09:39,199 --> 01:09:42,760are paid, you need to paythem, right, So that's the only96901:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,920cost of short selling though. Butit is unlimited loss. It's extremely risky.97001:09:46,319 --> 01:09:50,239It's a dangerous strategy. Stocks goup eighty five percent of the time,97101:09:50,600 --> 01:09:55,319so you have an eighty five percentchance of losing money if you if97201:09:55,399 --> 01:09:58,680your short stock. You'd like totalk to me a little more about it,97301:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,039I'm certainly available. But that's mylittle down and dirty on short selling.97401:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,560You know, I could take thelast part of this segment and talk97501:10:05,560 --> 01:10:11,560about the federal employees that we helpso much, obviously with their pensions and97601:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,720TSP, FEDLEY, f EHB,A lot of it is a lot of97701:10:15,800 --> 01:10:20,079it's different, right. Me andDylan are actually going through an entire course97801:10:20,520 --> 01:10:26,119in September where we're really going toget even more educated about it because we97901:10:26,199 --> 01:10:30,479do care so much about the federalemployees and understand that their situation is a98001:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,880lot more unique than many of thepeople we deal with. But you know,98101:10:34,800 --> 01:10:39,520a lot of federal employees. Theytalk so much about the TSP site98201:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,000and the and the fact that theyhave so many issues in the past.98301:10:43,399 --> 01:10:47,439Obviously you can speak more to this, Dylan. They re reinvigorated the site.98401:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,439Well, yeah, last year.I mean, if you're a federal98501:10:49,479 --> 01:10:53,560employee getting ready for time, andI'm sure you've figured out by now that98601:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,600last year they made it all online. You can't really call anybody if you98701:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,720want to transfer money out of it. Two Hira, you gotta go online.98801:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,680You got to go through the wholeprocess. The website has had issues.98901:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,920It takes a long time sometimes.Also, when you try and call99001:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,560a TSP agent to get help,you just get passed around a lot of99101:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,119the time. It's not the mosteffective way. It's not the most effective99201:11:13,479 --> 01:11:17,000system they have. But that's whya lot of federal employees have been wanting99301:11:17,039 --> 01:11:18,960to get their money out of theTSP as well. They can do in99401:11:19,039 --> 01:11:24,319service rollovers if they're either over fiftynine and a half or in some cases99501:11:24,359 --> 01:11:27,880fifty five, or they just wantto retire and roll it over. Because99601:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,680the TSP is just a hassle todeal with. They can't actually help you99701:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,880with any planning or any advice oranything like that because they're not licensed to99801:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,319do like we're talking about earlier.They can just tell you what it's in99901:11:38,399 --> 01:11:41,439and that's it. It's a supercheap option, but you're limited to your100001:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,159option and that's why some people keepit in there because it is super cheap.100101:11:44,199 --> 01:11:46,119But then you start trying to planfor retirement, things get a little100201:11:46,119 --> 01:11:49,359more inch kid, things get alittle more real because it's coming up and100301:11:49,439 --> 01:11:53,319nobody can help you. So you'rekind of just winging it yourself. And100401:11:53,399 --> 01:11:56,319if you can do it, you'reown. That's all you know that.100501:11:56,399 --> 01:12:00,359The TSP can be rolled into anIRA. It's a very seamless says.100601:12:00,399 --> 01:12:02,119The TSP site has gotten a lotbetter. It's a lot easier to do.100701:12:02,279 --> 01:12:04,960So if you want more information,feel free to call us about that100801:12:05,039 --> 01:12:06,960and we can help you all youcan. Thank you guys, coming upon100901:12:08,039 --> 01:12:10,520a break here. The it's notthat they don't want to help you,101001:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,720they just can't help you there likepracticing along without license. We'll be back101101:12:15,159 --> 01:12:18,039right after this break. Thanks forgoing, you say, it's only a101201:12:18,239 --> 01:12:31,760baby. Welcome back. You're listeningto the Money Matter Show. I'm Dylan101301:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,800Greenberg. I'm here with Todd Click, Dan Greenberg, and Dave Sherwood,101401:12:34,840 --> 01:12:39,000and before the break of the lastsegment, we were talking about the TSP.101501:12:39,119 --> 01:12:42,520We wanted to just clarify something thatif you do so, say you101601:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,960are over fifty five and you're you'reyou're somewhere in between fifty five and fifty101701:12:46,039 --> 01:12:49,840nine and a half, you canroll over your account if you stop it,101801:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,760say you retire fifty six, youcan roll over your account into a101901:12:54,279 --> 01:12:58,920IRA, but you will lose thepower to take any money out without penalty.102001:12:59,399 --> 01:13:02,119If you were from TSP or fromthe federal government at age fifty six102101:13:02,439 --> 01:13:06,159and you leave your money in theTSP, you can withdraw that money without102201:13:06,199 --> 01:13:10,439penalty. You just have to paythe income tax like a normal distribution from102301:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,239your TSP. But if you rollit into an IRA, you will incur102401:13:14,399 --> 01:13:15,840penalty if you want to take thatmoney out before age fifty nine and a102501:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,800half and after age fifty five.So we just wanted to clarify that.102601:13:19,239 --> 01:13:23,000Yeah, it's just a significant thingto be aware of because you do we102701:13:23,079 --> 01:13:27,239do run into people retiring early andif their thought processes you at fifty five,102801:13:27,239 --> 01:13:29,199I can get my money out ofthe TSP, if you rolled it102901:13:29,279 --> 01:13:31,119into an IRA, that's no longerthe case. Yeah, and so in103001:13:31,199 --> 01:13:33,960that sense, maybe like if peopleare out there that we've had people just103101:13:34,159 --> 01:13:38,239leave a portion of their money inthe TSP until they turn fifty nine and103201:13:38,239 --> 01:13:41,319a half, just in the offof sense that they need to get some103301:13:42,199 --> 01:13:45,279Yeah, we've we saw the market'sbeen trending lower here in August. We103401:13:45,479 --> 01:13:49,520kind of we're concerned at at monthand what was going to happen with the103501:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,439with the market already up to twentywe talked about Disney at Yeah, I103601:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,760wanted to talk about that. Yeah. They had an interesting week last week103701:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,239ahead a mixed earnings report where they'dbe revenue or they beat earnings at miss103801:14:00,279 --> 01:14:03,319revenue, and then they had abunch of news come out, Like we've103901:14:03,399 --> 01:14:05,479been going back and forth, whatare they going to do with ESPN?104001:14:05,520 --> 01:14:09,239Bob Iger said they're gonna sell it, then he said they're not going to104101:14:09,319 --> 01:14:13,119sell it. Then they said they'regonna move it into the streaming platform ESPN104201:14:13,119 --> 01:14:16,600Plus totally, and they had noplans of getting rid of the sports division.104301:14:16,680 --> 01:14:21,119Then last week it came out Barstooland Penn National Gaming, which teamed104401:14:21,199 --> 01:14:26,199up a few years ago for Barstoolsports Book. Pen National Gaming is a104501:14:26,279 --> 01:14:30,760gambling not nationwide gambling company. Theystarted, they got their feet wet with104601:14:30,079 --> 01:14:34,720online gambling with Barstool sports Book.They parted ways. Dave Portnoy, the104701:14:34,880 --> 01:14:41,840founder of Barstool, bought Barstool backfor a dollar and from Penn National Gaming104801:14:42,319 --> 01:14:45,159and then the only then one ofthe stipulations was if he ever sells it104901:14:45,239 --> 01:14:47,520again, Penn gets fifty percent ofthe revenue. He has no plans to105001:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,880sell, he said, And PennNational Gaming is going to realize the eight105101:14:51,000 --> 01:14:55,920hundred and fifty million dollars loss.But the one they did was take that105201:14:56,039 --> 01:15:00,159bar Stool sports book platform, thewhole platform. They're gonna rebrand it as105301:15:00,399 --> 01:15:03,039ESPN BET. So now ESPN isgoing to be a gambling platform. And105401:15:03,119 --> 01:15:08,600that's all Disney. So Disney gotinto the gambling world this past week.105501:15:08,760 --> 01:15:14,239It was also interesting because I sawa report about Disney's effects they're having on105601:15:14,359 --> 01:15:18,319this strike that's going on in Hollywoodwith all the actors and writers. It's105701:15:18,319 --> 01:15:23,319actually a benefit for Disney, andit might not seem like that of first105801:15:23,399 --> 01:15:27,600value, but the reason is ananalyst estimated that they could translate an additional105901:15:27,720 --> 01:15:31,199three to five billion dollars in freecash flow from the savings that could continue106001:15:32,079 --> 01:15:36,359from not producing shows. Right they'renot spending the money on new shows right106101:15:36,399 --> 01:15:40,479now because there's no writers to pay. If there's no writers to pay,106201:15:40,560 --> 01:15:45,439that's more free free savings there.So from a free cash flow point of106301:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,319view, it's probably not showed upin the numbers too much yet, But106401:15:48,520 --> 01:15:54,479in quarter four and quarter three whenDisney eventually reports, it should start to106501:15:54,520 --> 01:15:58,720show up that they're saving money onthe streaming side of the costs that streaming106601:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,319has. Yeah, they're so they'resaved money on that. They increased the106701:16:00,399 --> 01:16:06,079monthly price of thirteen ninety nine forDisney Plus. They also are down seven106801:16:06,079 --> 01:16:10,520point four percent from the last quarterto one hundred and forty six million Disney106901:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,359Plus subscribers, which they keep losingsubscribers. When we've talked about art theories107001:16:14,399 --> 01:16:19,359as to why, primarily India Indiabecause they lost the rights the Indian Premier107101:16:19,479 --> 01:16:24,880League of Cricket matches, right,That's why. That's the biggest reason.107201:16:25,199 --> 01:16:28,079So they lost that. They alsohad an interesting part of their report was107301:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,359forty two billion dollars in one timeof charges and impairments due to various different107401:16:32,399 --> 01:16:38,600things. It was the Disney Pointcontent from the Disney Plus and it was107501:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,840just ending third party licenses in agreements. They lost forty two billion dollars of107601:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,000one time, So we're gonna behaving that. That was a one off107701:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,439and with the stock somewhat so downright, stock was up three percent for107801:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,399the week. No, I meanjust in the last year, ye like107901:16:50,560 --> 01:16:55,520not tracking with the SMP. It'spriced about the same as it was at108001:16:55,520 --> 01:17:00,279the pandemic along just like right andthen the pandemic, the park we're all108101:17:00,319 --> 01:17:04,279shut down, the cruise line wasshut down, and it's it's priced at108201:17:04,359 --> 01:17:09,279that same level now as it wasthen. And now you have Bob Iger108301:17:09,399 --> 01:17:12,720back at the helm, and notonly that but his his right and left108401:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,960hand, uh, the two guys, both of whom were being talked about108501:17:16,000 --> 01:17:21,479as potential successors for him. Itseems like a strong time to be looking108601:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,640at it. They got an awfullystrong team in place. Now it's gonna108701:17:25,680 --> 01:17:30,159take time, maybe three to sixmonths for the stock to really go.108801:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,279And I think what I would lookfor if I was wanting to be an108901:17:33,359 --> 01:17:36,000investor in Disney, as I wouldlook for. You might want to take109001:17:36,039 --> 01:17:40,680a small position here and you knowthe eighty five ish area. That's that's109101:17:40,720 --> 01:17:45,159fine. If you want to onehundred shares, maybe you buy twenty five109201:17:45,199 --> 01:17:49,039shares in here and then and thenwait, I want to see the newsflow109301:17:49,239 --> 01:17:55,760continue to be disappointing and the stockknock care. That's what I typically look109401:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,840for on a reversal. Yeah.Another interesting part of that too was an109501:17:58,880 --> 01:18:03,359international parkside were the big highlight ofthe report, but domestic attendance and domestic109601:18:04,119 --> 01:18:08,279hotel bookings at the parks was down. And part of the region is because109701:18:08,279 --> 01:18:13,239they're just sky Those prices for thosetickets are just skyrocketing. People getting tired.109801:18:13,239 --> 01:18:15,039They can't afford it. They can'tafford a Disney vacation, family vacation109901:18:15,119 --> 01:18:18,079anymore, right, And we're startingto see that in the economy. And110001:18:18,439 --> 01:18:23,279we've we've we've been, in fairness, we've been a little too conservative over110101:18:23,319 --> 01:18:26,560the last sixty to ninety days,to be honest with you, could it's110201:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,640been pedal to the metal with theMagnificent seven. And we keep waiting for110301:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,079the next shoe to drop because wesee an economy that's slowing, and when110401:18:34,119 --> 01:18:40,159you see a report from UPS wherethey're lowering guidance for the full year,110501:18:40,760 --> 01:18:45,239and then you see copper having thisworst week this year. Copper is the110601:18:45,880 --> 01:18:50,239the commodity of the economy, right, It's used in more things than anything110701:18:50,319 --> 01:18:55,880else. So you've got that.You see a market where the price earnings110801:18:56,039 --> 01:19:01,680ratio is sixty five percent above normal, and you think there's got to be110901:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,720a pullback here. September is historicallythe worst month of the year for the111001:19:05,840 --> 01:19:11,119market. August is generally pretty normal, but we're, you know, halfway111101:19:11,159 --> 01:19:15,039through August now, and we're kindof creeping up towards September October, and111201:19:15,399 --> 01:19:19,760October, interestingly, is historically isa fractionally higher month, but it's been111301:19:19,840 --> 01:19:24,399the home of three of the biggestcrashes in history, so it has a111401:19:24,439 --> 01:19:29,359bad rep So we're coming into thatSeptember October period, which is typically problematic111501:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,880for the market. With a marketthat's gained twenty percent on the year,111601:19:32,279 --> 01:19:36,680is overvalued, just be cautious,that's all right, and also with interest111701:19:36,800 --> 01:19:42,920rates still high. Goldman SA GoldmanSachs economists came out this week and said111801:19:43,199 --> 01:19:47,079each additional dollar of interest expense forcescompanies to lower their capital cap X,111901:19:47,119 --> 01:19:51,439which is their capital expenditures things theyspend by ten cents and labor costs by112001:19:51,479 --> 01:19:57,479twenty cents. So there is areal fundamental impact of higher rates. Right,112101:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,439It's not just that you're paying moreon loans, but it leads to112201:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,319other things in the business that youhave to cut back on. We have112301:20:03,479 --> 01:20:09,159not seen that in the labor reportat all. No. A solar company112401:20:09,279 --> 01:20:14,039came out Friday, Maxi and Solarcame out. Their stock was up forty112501:20:14,079 --> 01:20:17,039percent the year. It plunged thirtypercent at the open on Friday. They112601:20:17,119 --> 01:20:24,840gave a disappointing quarterly report, whichthey called because of weakening and consumer demand.112701:20:26,199 --> 01:20:30,119It's I mean, it's probably oneof the ultimate discretionary purchases, solar.112801:20:30,520 --> 01:20:35,119Yeah, right, you don't haveto have solar. So is that112901:20:35,439 --> 01:20:41,199a reflection of what's going on inthe economy? You know, perhaps perhaps,113001:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,359But Disney's in an interesting play hereand reminds me a little bit of113101:20:45,680 --> 01:20:49,039Boyling a couple of years ago,where where nobody wanted anything to do with113201:20:49,119 --> 01:20:55,079it. And so Dutch Brothers they'relike Dutch Bros. I shouldn't say Dutch113301:20:55,119 --> 01:20:59,640Brothers. It's not Dutch Brothers,Dutch Bros. And I always thought that113401:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,720was short for brothers, which Iprobably is, but the name of the113501:21:02,760 --> 01:21:09,600company is Dutch Bros. Has notparticipated in this year's rally. Jumped twenty113601:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,880five percent on Wednesday morning after reportinga strong quarter. They named a former113701:21:14,439 --> 01:21:23,960Starbucks CEO excuse me, a formerStarbucks executive as your CEO to switch gears113801:21:23,960 --> 01:21:28,159a little bit. You want toknow interesting thing about Canada's real estate Canada113901:21:28,279 --> 01:21:31,960real estate. Yeah, yeah,it's a bubble since in Canada. Yes,114001:21:32,560 --> 01:21:39,279the disposable income and housing prices inAmerica have normally been correlated. Right.114101:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,640The only time we've seen him getway out of whack was in two114201:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,159thousand and eight. Well, inCanada, the housing prices compared to disposable114301:21:45,239 --> 01:21:50,399income are so divergent it's not evenfunny. And in two thousand and eight114401:21:50,840 --> 01:21:54,439it was very divergent, and itcame down a little bit, but it114501:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,880didn't come down nearly as much asthe American market. And then it's continue114601:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,119to skyrocket through the last fifteen years, and it is has a huge divergence114701:22:01,119 --> 01:22:05,880between the disposable income of a Canadiancitizen and the actual price of the mortgat114801:22:06,000 --> 01:22:11,079of the price of the home.Now going the focus on the mortgages.114901:22:11,159 --> 01:22:14,720Over half of all mortgages in Canadaare variable rate, which means they are115001:22:14,840 --> 01:22:16,920mostly talking about that a couple ofmonths ago. That's not good. No,115101:22:17,079 --> 01:22:20,600they're most exposed to rising interest rates. What have we had rising instrates?115201:22:20,680 --> 01:22:26,119Right? A variable rate, fixedpayment mortgage. Under this type of115301:22:26,239 --> 01:22:30,439range arrangement, your payment remains thesame, though if rates go up you115401:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,039pay more interest and less principle everymonth. It's also worth noting that there's115501:22:34,079 --> 01:22:38,479something called a trigger rate, whichis the point at which one hundred percent115601:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,840of your payment is going towards interestpayments, so no principle is being paid115701:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,119off if you're If you exceed thatrate, the interest payments get piled onto115801:22:46,199 --> 01:22:48,960your loan, so at the endof the term you could end up being115901:22:49,159 --> 01:22:55,640owning owing more than what your equityhas eroded. Finally, it's worth noting116001:22:55,720 --> 01:22:59,840that the outside the provinces of Albertaand I can't say this word Scott's Awashing,116101:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,600which makes up only fifteen percent ofthe population of the country. Mortgages116201:23:03,640 --> 01:23:09,520in Canada are recourse loans, whichmeans the lender can go after other assets116301:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,399that the homeowner owns if the valueof the mortgages sees the value of the116401:23:13,479 --> 01:23:17,800residential real estate. This may insulatebanks somewhat to the pains, but obviously116501:23:17,960 --> 01:23:23,399the household would face a lot ofdanger. There another bubbles. China exports116601:23:23,399 --> 01:23:27,560suffered their biggest drop in three yearsin July, down fourteen percent. As116701:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,319people are going elsewhere, Dean,We've talked about this lot on the show.116801:23:30,399 --> 01:23:33,920We want to see that happened.China reported a three tenths of a116901:23:34,000 --> 01:23:40,039percent drop in consumer prices, adrop in consumer prices in July. Wholesale117001:23:40,119 --> 01:23:44,399prices down four point four percent.That is not good. That is not117101:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,039good. Deflation is more of aproblem, Dean. I would argue than117201:23:48,119 --> 01:23:54,680inflation. They haven't deflation there absolutely. But you know the only something with117301:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,880China, you never know what's trueor not true. It's not okay,117401:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,760and they have a whole different economy. They're just pumping the money where they117501:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,439need to. They'll cut back onthe jobs if everyone's successful to take over117601:24:04,840 --> 01:24:09,159their company. And just look atOlive Baba and Jack Ma. Never see117701:24:09,199 --> 01:24:13,960Jack maher anymore. You know whatthe global inflation rate is now global inflation117801:24:14,199 --> 01:24:18,199that encompasses emerging markets and developed markets. Obviously emerging five point five thanks higher117901:24:19,239 --> 01:24:24,840seven eight point six eight point six. Dean knows how to look at my118001:24:24,880 --> 01:24:29,840paper. Yeah, So obviously withdevelop emerging markets, those are the countries118101:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,399that are coming kind of growing.They're not going to have howl higher inflation118201:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,199than we do. All right,we have one more segment coming up.118301:24:35,439 --> 01:24:40,800We're going to talk to our todayplan and Jonathan and get some more tidbits118401:24:41,079 --> 01:24:45,319on how to go ahead and planfor your future. Thank you for listening.118501:24:45,399 --> 01:25:00,239We do appreciate it. Say it'sall a bab Welcome back your listening118601:25:00,239 --> 01:25:02,560to the final segment of the Moneymountof showing. Before we start with Jonathan118701:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,279Sabilia, I did get an answerfrom my friend that lives in Jersey.118801:25:05,720 --> 01:25:10,039They pump their gas. They can'tpump their own gas. They can pump118901:25:10,119 --> 01:25:12,920their own they cannot They have somebodypump their gas. Okay, so yeah,119001:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,680that's the last place, last place. Yeah, there you go.119101:25:16,119 --> 01:25:18,760John. We had we had oneplace in town that could pump their own119201:25:18,800 --> 01:25:23,760gas, and I don't think theydo it anymore. It was on in119301:25:23,840 --> 01:25:29,640what town here? It was onriver and first I think the X station119401:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,479had a choice sway and Craycroft willpump your gas. Yeah, it's a119501:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,840family company, kind of good people. Yeah, that's kind of cool.119601:25:36,159 --> 01:25:45,319So John Jonathan Sabilia our state planner. I am so thankful and grateful to119701:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,640have a resource in you, because, honestly, when you're doing a financial119801:25:47,680 --> 01:25:53,680plan, the one thing financial advisorscan't do is implement in the state plan.119901:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,880You could talk about in the stateplan, but at the end of120001:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,520the day, you need to bean attorney to implement it. So grateful120101:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,640to have him as my partner here, great partners together, and welcome to120201:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,079the show as you've been on before. Thank you, thank you, thank120301:26:04,079 --> 01:26:06,960you, thank you. Now.I read an article this week and I120401:26:08,239 --> 01:26:12,039was thinking about you a lot becausebaby boomers hold half of the nation's one120501:26:12,119 --> 01:26:15,640hundred and forty trillion dollars in wealth, okay, and I was breaking it120601:26:15,760 --> 01:26:23,680down by what each generation owns.This is interesting. Baby boomers their top120701:26:23,760 --> 01:26:28,239ownership is in equities, their secondsreal estate, Their third is in pensions.120801:26:28,760 --> 01:26:33,119Generation X top is in real estate, seconds and pensions, third is120901:26:33,199 --> 01:26:38,399in equities. You work your waydown to the millennials. Their top ownership121001:26:38,520 --> 01:26:42,520is in real estate, second ispensions, third is other assets. And121101:26:42,600 --> 01:26:46,960guess what's last stocks? Stocks?But don't even know why you're not counting121201:26:47,039 --> 01:26:53,720their pensions as being in stocks.They don't have money to have other investment121301:26:53,800 --> 01:26:59,600until they inherit money, right,Okay. The people that actually get older,121401:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,479they're in stocks because they're taking thefull one case and stuff and rolling121501:27:02,560 --> 01:27:06,439them into stocks and keeping them thereand then and then they have investment portfolios,121601:27:06,960 --> 01:27:11,319all right. And that's why asyou get older, you leave that121701:27:11,399 --> 01:27:15,479democratic side of things and can becomea Republican because you realize taxes kill you.121801:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,760Well, if we're take if we'retalking about half of one hundred forty121901:27:19,800 --> 01:27:24,640trillion, we're talking to seventy trilliondollars over the next probably TOIL twenty forty122001:27:24,680 --> 01:27:28,239five, it's going to be transferringgenerations. Right, it's to generation X,122101:27:28,319 --> 01:27:30,600some of it's to millennials. Andwith that being said, we have122201:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,760a safe harbor law. Is thatthe correct term? Was it safe sunset122301:27:34,840 --> 01:27:40,079law? That's what it is,sunset law, which could be lowering in122401:27:40,560 --> 01:27:44,840twenty twenty five the amount that isthe exclusion for passing on to states.122501:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,119Correct, So is there anything tobe done? Now? What is the122601:27:48,239 --> 01:27:53,079things that for these baby boomers whohold half of the trillion, half of122701:27:53,079 --> 01:27:55,800the one hundred forty trillion dollars inwealth, what do they do to help122801:27:55,920 --> 01:27:59,239their generations that they're seemingly going tobe passing on. In fact, eighty122901:27:59,279 --> 01:28:01,560five percent of these of this moneyis going to be passed on to actual123001:28:01,680 --> 01:28:05,199people, fifteen percent to charities.Obviously charities. There's a lot of things123101:28:05,239 --> 01:28:08,800you can do with that as well. Well. First off, I want123201:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,600to say that I lived in Philadelphiafor a while and I would go to123301:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,560New Jersey and they would pump yourgas. And it's one of the most123401:28:14,640 --> 01:28:19,640awkward situations is having another person's yeaand they stand. It is just a123501:28:19,720 --> 01:28:23,039weird, weird feeling, and youhave to wait, and then you got123601:28:23,159 --> 01:28:26,000to tip them, and it's justa whole deal. You know, you123701:28:26,079 --> 01:28:28,800think tipping's bad, now, imaginehaving to tip somebody for pumping your gas.123801:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,520It's in New Jersey. Yeah,yeah, I think the gas was123901:28:32,600 --> 01:28:36,640pretty cheap though on the Jersey side, but I don't but this was years124001:28:36,680 --> 01:28:42,800ago. Who knows. As forthe comment about the uh you know,124101:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,079what is the best thing to do. Even with the sunset for revision,124201:28:45,119 --> 01:28:47,960there's gonna be a lot of peoplewho are not going to be subject to124301:28:48,039 --> 01:28:53,159the estate tax. So the bestthing you can do to avoid taxes is124401:28:53,199 --> 01:28:58,640don't give your kids gifts during theirlife without consulting an attorney or without consulting124501:28:58,960 --> 01:29:03,359uh CPA well or a tax repair. For instance, your house. You124601:29:03,439 --> 01:29:08,600know, if you have let's sayyou bought the house for one hundred thousand124701:29:08,640 --> 01:29:13,079dollars and now it's worth five hundredthousand dollars at your death, they get124801:29:13,119 --> 01:29:16,000a step up in basis. Itbecomes investment property. The kids get it,124901:29:16,199 --> 01:29:18,399and they turn around to sell it. They won't pay any capital gains125001:29:18,399 --> 01:29:21,560as long as they sell it,you know, within a reasonable time after125101:29:21,680 --> 01:29:25,520death, okay, because they'll geta step up in basis, which is125201:29:25,560 --> 01:29:30,880basically, whatever the fair market valueof the home is at the data to125301:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,720death of the original owner. That'swhat you inherit as a basis. And125401:29:34,840 --> 01:29:38,640so if it's five hundred thousand dollarsa fair market value at the day to125501:29:38,720 --> 01:29:42,760death you sell it, turn aroundto sell it the next day, they125601:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,159will pay no capital gains. Whatif they sell it then at lost on125701:29:45,239 --> 01:29:48,119the road, do they get tothe tax loss even though they never paid125801:29:48,159 --> 01:29:50,319for the game. Oh, theydon't get a tax loss for that they125901:29:50,359 --> 01:29:54,239don't sell. In other words,if you get a step up basis and126001:29:54,319 --> 01:29:59,279then it goes down and then yousell it, well you would you would126101:29:59,359 --> 01:30:00,960know, well you would get it, you would get a long term you126201:30:01,319 --> 01:30:04,760would get a loss, but itwould be a capital loss, long term126301:30:04,840 --> 01:30:09,399long term loss. Because it's justlike if they have same with stock,126401:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,359right, and then they sell themwhen it goes down, then they're achieving126501:30:12,399 --> 01:30:15,680the loss after that. Sure,how many no sentence giving it away until126601:30:15,119 --> 01:30:17,760exactly no longer here. Yeah,so many clients have we seen it?126701:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,399Have capital gains of one, two, three hundred thousand dollars on a single126801:30:21,439 --> 01:30:25,880position. And I'm going to givesomething to my kid. No, you're126901:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,880not, No, you're not.No, don't do it. The last127001:30:29,079 --> 01:30:33,800CPA firm I worked for, weactually did a trust return for in the127101:30:33,880 --> 01:30:39,640state return. Dad died. Hebought Apple stock back in the eighties for127201:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,640five thousand dollars. It was wortha million dollars when he died. But127301:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,880he, you know, just satthere, and he was a guy living127401:30:45,079 --> 01:30:47,039you know, by his own means, didn't sell any of it during his127501:30:47,159 --> 01:30:51,159life. Kids got a million dollars, you know, because dad decided to127601:30:51,239 --> 01:30:56,960invest properly, and because of thestep up in basis, they turned around127701:30:56,960 --> 01:31:00,880and sold it and paid no taxeson it. Right. So when it127801:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,399comes to charities, I think that'sa more niche group obviously. But AF127901:31:04,520 --> 01:31:10,079had had clients who want to lookat looking at giving some of their assets128001:31:10,119 --> 01:31:12,800to charities. What are some ofthe things they can be looking at there?128101:31:13,079 --> 01:31:15,119So you would probably want to,Okay, there are things that will128201:31:15,199 --> 01:31:19,359be taxable at your death. Soif you have multiple assets, you have128301:31:19,439 --> 01:31:23,079a home, and you have stocks, and then you have a four oh128401:31:23,159 --> 01:31:27,039one k, you would probably wantto allocate the four oh one k to128501:31:27,119 --> 01:31:31,439the charities. Why because that's ataxable item at your death. Because it's128601:31:31,479 --> 01:31:36,279a it's basically a contract, allright, So your beneficiaries will be paying128701:31:36,359 --> 01:31:40,079taxes on money they pull off froma four oh one k. So if128801:31:40,119 --> 01:31:43,720you allocate the four oh one kto the charities, they're the ones that128901:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,720will be in. Charities don't paytaxes, so your state won't be paying129001:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,800it and then the remainder, youknow, the house the stocks that we're129101:31:49,800 --> 01:31:53,840talking about, those goes to thekids with the step up in basis and129201:31:53,880 --> 01:31:56,880they wouldn't pay any taxes. Yeah, and four oh one k is also129301:31:56,920 --> 01:32:00,039would be the same thing with anIRA correct. Yeah, step up in129401:32:00,119 --> 01:32:02,720basis. One of the things thatthat Biden was talking about when he was129501:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,640first electric president, if you rememberthere or not, he said the guy,129601:32:05,720 --> 01:32:10,399the guy could have a million dollarsgain, it's taxable, and he129701:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,319gets in the car wreck on theway the way to a meeting and that129801:32:13,880 --> 01:32:17,199becomes zero not rights. So manyways to start taxing. That's been there129901:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,800on a few things. But whathe's not telling you is that you've been130001:32:21,039 --> 01:32:24,880being taxed the whole time on everythingyou earn, the money to invest,130101:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,680the money that you already get taxedon, and then he wants to tax130201:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,359you again and not let you getthat one benefit that you get and avaising130301:32:30,439 --> 01:32:35,000it. They want to take wealthagainst away from anything being passed. One130401:32:35,239 --> 01:32:39,520set. There's a lot of thingsin life that are very confusing deing.130501:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,319So on that note, what doyou think is going to happen there with130601:32:42,399 --> 01:32:45,840the sunset of the what is iteleven million going back down? It's right130701:32:45,840 --> 01:32:51,920now about twelve point nine million dollars, and it'll go down. I've heard130801:32:51,960 --> 01:32:57,279speculation between five to seven million dollars. And that's first state tax. As130901:32:57,319 --> 01:33:00,520long as your a state is undertwelve point nine. You said twelve point131001:33:00,600 --> 01:33:02,840nine right now, then there isno estate tax. Correct. It used131101:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,640to be six hundred thousand. Itused to be very low back in the131201:33:08,039 --> 01:33:13,880early eighties. I think it wasone million during Bush and then it jumped131301:33:14,000 --> 01:33:18,359up pretty significantly, uh during theend of the Bush term. Uh,131401:33:18,520 --> 01:33:23,920and then I think Trump got itup to about eleven point eleven million dollars131501:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,680per person during his during his reign. So now it's twelve nine. It's131601:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,800well two to inflation. It goesup. It goes up every year.131701:33:30,000 --> 01:33:36,000Yeah, what is it? Whatdo you tax that? After you have131801:33:36,279 --> 01:33:42,520over that limit? You tax?So somebody has a business that's worth twenty131901:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,640million dollars, they don't have theseven or eight million dollars. That's a132001:33:45,840 --> 01:33:49,880third three point two million dollars checkercutting the government and they don't have it.132101:33:50,039 --> 01:33:54,319Then what happens they have to sellthe business? Correct? Yeah?132201:33:54,359 --> 01:33:58,600The biggest for the biggest No,I said, that's the problem that we132301:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,560have. There's no caveats. It'slike, if you that's the reason they're132401:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,399trying to change, they change it. I mean, but then when you132501:34:04,479 --> 01:34:08,039do some planning, you get someinsurance, you get some life insurance,132601:34:08,119 --> 01:34:12,079you know, to cover these statetaxes. One of the biggest areas was132701:34:12,439 --> 01:34:15,840hit by this is the family farmSouth Dakota, boy And so I'm familiar132801:34:15,880 --> 01:34:21,079with that. The farms, especiallyin those areas, have have gotten extremely132901:34:21,239 --> 01:34:25,680valuable. And but if you're not, you should be, you know,133001:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,560doing the proper planning. I meanthey're they're not, but it's still course133101:34:28,640 --> 01:34:32,920money for those three five million dollarcontracts, insurance contracts, insurance contracts exactly.133201:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,199It's not like I can go outand just go get term for that.133301:34:36,079 --> 01:34:40,039But that's just an avenue of oneway of you know, defeating the133401:34:40,159 --> 01:34:42,920estate tax. There's other ways,family limited partnerships. You know, you133501:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,520could throw that piece of property,that farm, that farmland to a family133601:34:45,560 --> 01:34:49,760limited partnership and squeeze it down andvalue. When I say squeeze, uh,133701:34:49,880 --> 01:34:53,560this might be a little too technicalto talk about on this segment,133801:34:54,039 --> 01:34:59,199but you can sometimes due to uh, the I R S rules, you133901:34:59,279 --> 01:35:02,479can take twenty million dollars piece ofreal estate and squeeze it down thirty percent,134001:35:02,680 --> 01:35:10,199so it'd be worth fourteen million dollarsbecause of lack of marketability, last134101:35:10,279 --> 01:35:14,960lack of transferability. So let's makeit simple. If you're in a situation134201:35:15,119 --> 01:35:16,920that you think over the next fewyears you're gonna have more than seven million134301:35:16,960 --> 01:35:23,920dollars, you need to start lookingat your state plan again. Oh absolutely,134401:35:24,119 --> 01:35:26,840okay, because it's not to twelvepoint nine. I'm looking at where134501:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,439it's going to be in a coupleof years because if they're still letting you134601:35:29,520 --> 01:35:30,960know, the lower because this isthe way they're going to get taxes and134701:35:31,199 --> 01:35:33,399well, and one of the thingsyou can do, and they you weren't134801:35:33,399 --> 01:35:36,439able to do in the past,is you could lock in that twelve point134901:35:36,520 --> 01:35:40,920nine million dollars. Okay, andone day. One way you could lock135001:35:40,960 --> 01:35:46,560it in is you know, giftingyour some of that money into a spousal135101:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,880trust for the benefit of your spouse, and you could lock in that twelve135201:35:50,199 --> 01:35:54,800twelve point nine. So if itgoes down to five million, you're still135301:35:55,079 --> 01:35:58,600have the twelve that twelve million lockedin. Well, that's good, and135401:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,479that's why you got to look atnow Stay planned. Jonathan's right in our135501:36:01,520 --> 01:36:05,319office, right next to Dave.It's that easy. Just call us an135601:36:05,359 --> 01:36:09,960appointment, sit down with them,and we'll figure out what we need to135701:36:10,039 --> 01:36:13,600do for you. That's what thewhole financial planning and stay planning investing part135801:36:13,760 --> 01:36:16,960is. We finally got it towhere I wanted this to goal and this135901:36:17,119 --> 01:36:21,479has been my vision for thirty years, Dave, thirty years. All right,136001:36:21,520 --> 01:36:26,119we'll be back next week. We'reyour money matters. We always want136101:36:26,159 --> 01:36:30,119to be happy, we always wantto be healthy, and every day we136201:36:30,319 --> 01:36:39,800try to be profitable. Don't sayit's all ab