Aug. 27, 2023
Creating a Solid Financial Plan: The Time and Effort Required for Success
In today's episode, we delve into the the current economic uncertainty and stress the need for a solid financial plan. We discuss the intricate process of creating a financial plan, from gathering information to executing it. We explore the intriguing...
In today's episode, we delve into the the current economic uncertainty and stress the need for a solid financial plan. We discuss the intricate process of creating a financial plan, from gathering information to executing it. We explore the intriguing world of home builders, GDP growth projections, and the influence of Fed Chairman Powell's decisions on the market. We dive into Monte Carlo simulations and sequence of returns in retirement, discussing the liquidity side and the best investment strategies. Social Security, IRA withdrawals, and the impact on taxable income are also on our radar. But it's not all numbers and market talk. We love engaging with our clients and helping them shape their financial journeys. We discuss the importance of building the habit of saving early on, even with small amounts. Plus, We dissect the stock market's performance, analyze earnings reports of companies like Nvidia, and explore the Fed's stance on interest rates. Lastly, we provide insights on portfolio risk mitigation, balanced investments, and the vulnerability of the current market. So, settle in, and get ready to unlock the secrets to financial stability and retirement planning with Greenberg Financial Group. Let's dive in!If you would like to contact us to learn more about our firm and our process call us at 520.544.4909 or go to our website at www.Greenbergfinancial.com or email us at Contact@Greenbergfinancial.com
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Good morning, it's eight o'clock.
It's Sunday morning, and this is the
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Money Matter Show. This is Dean
Greenberg, and I will bring you,
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with the rest of the group,
two hours of information you try to help
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you, guide you through these markets
and make you some money. We'll save
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you some money, mitigate some risk. We'll talking about what we think is
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going on. We had other than
the NASDAC, we had pretty much a
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flat market. The Dow was down
a half a point h the SMP was
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up about one just point eight,
and the excuse me, and then NAZDAC
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was up two point cent and the
equal rated SMP was down point two percent
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for the month. Now we sit
at the down down three and a half,
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SMP down four percent, NAZDAC down
five percent, and that's the same
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thing for the equal way to S
and P. Well they obviously then you
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can see the NAZAC stocks. The
big tech stocks ran up this week,
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mostly because the video's earnings were coming
out on last week and guess what,
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they blew the doors off, blew
the doors off earnings and the stock went
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way high after opened up the next
day thirty forty points higher, but reversed
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in the same day as the markets
came down and fell the next day by
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eleven points. So they went from
about five ten all the way down to
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four fifty from the beginning of the
opening after its earnings to the lower So
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what does that mean? Talk about
that today, But you understand that was
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profit taking every and the analysts raised
their profits, their their projections six hundred
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six to fifty. It's one of
those generation stocks that you look at and
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you say, Wow, everybody's using
it, when is it going to stop?
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You could have said the same thing
about Apple, Amazon, all these
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stocks. They're in a very sweet
spot right now with an economy that's kind
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of good, but we're trying to
break it. But if there's only one
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company in the artificial intelligence world right
now that is benefiting, it's the video.
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The video is benefiting because they have
the chip above all other chips.
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They have that one product. Now
there's all the cheaper ones and things that
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can do other things, but for
the super super super AI people, they
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got to buy this ten eleven thousand
dollar chip and they are not stopping.
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They keep buying and buying it to
stay up on it. And that is
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why in the video continues to rally
after it gets knocked down. I don't
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know how low it can go.
I mean, you know it can go
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back to three fifty. I guess
right. I don't know how I can
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go. But everyone's saying it's six
hundred and six fifty and no one.
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It was at two something, three
something. We were looking for five.
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It got over five. Pullback,
see what happens. But you better understand
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something about stocks like that. That
volatility is incredible risky. Fear and greed
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is what you drive you on that
stock. And it's probably a stock a
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company you want to own and not
trade unless you have a position that you
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call your core position and that you
don't trade that, and then you have
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your another one that you can trade
on a short term basis. If you
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know what you're doing, it's very
risky. And that brings me to the
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disclaimer. This show is brought to
you by Greenberg Financial Group. Greenberg Financial
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Group is both the registered investment advisory
and a broker dealer register with the SEC,
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members of fin and members of SIPPIC. On this show, we talk
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about different products and different strategies and
we all have ideas and we and we
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discuss things. Everything has risk.
Remember that. Just look at the video.
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Up and down fifty points in two
days, one hundred points. It
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moves. That's risky. Everything has
a risk. Understanding risks, how do
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you avoid some of the risk by
allocations, understanding your risk tolerance, mitigating
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risk. All these things are what
you try to do in this type of
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market. The O the big thing
this week this year, this week was
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a Federal Reserve Chairman Powell and there's
little discussion with the mucky MUCKs CEOs of
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the world, and said he's probably
not done raising interest rates, and that
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created a rally, then a decline, and then a rally at the end
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of the day. I mean,
I hate being into scenario that I want
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to bear economy, so we stop
rating interest rate. I like a good
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economy and keep rates pretty much where
they belong. And they're too high right
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now. We don't want to inflation
over two percent. Historically rates on homes
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are like four and a half five
and they are about two percent higher than
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they need to be right now or
want it to be. But none of
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this is going to change, guys, until we have a Congress that's willing
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to make changes. We constantly hear
about taxes. We constantly hear about paying
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your fair share. We constantly hear
about where the money's got to go.
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They just don't run it the way
they need to run it, and they
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don't believe. They believe way too
much that spending a certain amount of GDP
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is okay if you're growing the economy. But we're not growing the economy because
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they keep flowing down the economy,
and that's when the rubber is going to
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hit the road, and that's when
we're going to have a problem. Mitigating
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your portfolio risk right now is so
important. Mitigating risk means not being in
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a position that if this market goes
down twenty to thirty percent, then you're
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gonna watch your portfolio dropped that much
or more. You don't want to be
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in that position. If you are, that means you're all growth and you
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can accept the rallies up and you
can accept the declines down. Most investors
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are greedy and allow it to go
up and say I don't have a problem.
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I should be more invested when the
markets are rallying, and then when
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they go down they want to go
to cash. Stay balanced right now,
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balance portfolio, and all the way
I look at a balance portfolio. You
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can be forty to sixty percent invested
right now. Being somewhere around fifty percent
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invested is probably not a bad idea. And then maybe having a little hedge
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on it to bring it down percent
that you can move in and out and
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then have the rest of bonds.
You can get great income right now,
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and you put some short term treasuries
on, maybe a little bit longer out
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now that the yields are higher,
you put and you just put a portfolio
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together so you have a nice portfolio
that can handle the ups and downs in
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the markets if you have short term
treasures on. I'm not afraid of rates
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going higher. I do believe if
sometime rates will come down. So that's
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why you want to be out maybe
a little longer on the curve with some
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of the money. And we're doing
that as we bring in an income,
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making sure that if it goes the
other way and in three years from now
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treasury is a bunch lower than we
can do something benefit on the appreciation side.
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It's not a time to just sit
back and say, oh, whatever
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happens will happen. Because we are
in what I consider a yellow light,
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yellow flag type of scenario with the
with the federal reserve. Every time we've
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had a big move down where there's
two thousand and one, two thousand and
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eight, two twenty, the big
crashes, there was a move into the
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federal reserve that created a problem and
created a liquidity problem, which is what
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we have. And then there's no
When you have a liquidity problem, there's
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not enough money there to keep driving
the markets higher, and then when they
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fall, everyone panics and sells out, and then the markets fall and then
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things slow down. You have that
recession and then the next thing you know,
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everyone's being a negative, and that's
when you want to become positive.
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It's a cycle. Matter how old
you are, it's still a cycle.
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Obviously, if you're younger, you
can handle that cycle more and you want
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to keep put more money in as
the thing goes down. That's why he
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dollar course Savage him went the following, k if you're older, you need
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to mitigate risk. If you're fifty
plus you need to mitigate risk. That
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doesn't mean you're not going to lose. You're going to lose. But the
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markets are in a position that we
do not have enough money coming in of
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new money. We have quantitative tightening
going on when the markets were rallying after
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one or one to oh wait,
guess what the markets did that because of
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stimulus. Then they stopped the stimulus
and then in all seven we had a
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liquidity problem, and then that stemmed
into the economic problem with the banking situation.
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In twenty nineteen, we had to
run on the federal on the on
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the Federal reserve, banking on the
member banks, interest rates went up,
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the barrowing wait to went to eight
and a half percent. The Federal Reserve
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had to step in and bring that
down. But that was the prelude to
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the twenty twenty with the the When
the pandemic came in, there was nothing
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there underneath it to support the markets, and they fell over twenty percent.
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Then they came down to a level
that people were willing to buy as a
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federal reserve, and everybody came back
in and was starting to pump money into
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it. See, government only does
things they when there's panic out there.
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When there's panic, and they looked
towards the smart people to tell them what
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to do. Obama had no clue
in Owait what to do. Bush had
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no clue in that. They look
for the people that understand The one person
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that I really believed that understood business
and had the right people in his cabinet
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was Trump. But the pressure from
everybody to shut down the economy and do
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all that stuff was so great.
I don't believe he would have shut it
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down the way we shut it down. But he did come up with saying
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given out money and doing everything else
to bring it on. The problem we
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had is the next president came in, which was Biden, had no clue
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economics. All they ever did was
give away free money. So the more
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free money they gave away, that's
how they thought they handle everything well.
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That stimulus created the inflation that we
had. They were not prepared to look
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into the future and say what do
we do, and they have put it
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all on the federal reserve to keep
raising interest rates like they continue to do.
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Political people are not understanding economics.
Supply demand, right, That's simple.
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When the supply is so low and
the demand is so great, prices
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go higher. We had a supply
chain problem. What did we do to
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fix it? Nothing? We let
it happen over time. We don't have
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a supply chain problem right now in
most areas will increase the supply chain.
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Make the supply chain bigger than the
demand in the areas that we need to
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and you'll see inflation come down.
The first it's a place that I would
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attack would be energy. You need
to attack energy. We have so much
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oil to be able to be able
to sell to our friends around the world,
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but we allow them to get it
from our enemies. We opened up
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drilling in the United States of America, not only would we never be dependent
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on anybody else like we are again
now, but we would be able to
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keep oil prices down, which is
one of the main reasons energy prices rising
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have created the inflation that we have. It not only energy prices is pretty
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much the core of it all.
But think about it. Food prices go
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up because the transportation of the food
goes up. The gasoline prices go up,
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and all we hear about is we've
got to go ev ev ev electric
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vehicles and it's not going over so
great. And then and then bottom line
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is they're trying to push something without
a full plan on how to execute it.
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It's always about the planning process we
have. We preached that every week
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on our shows. Your financial plan, your economic plan, things like that
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have to be over time. You
can't just say, oh, okay,
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now we're gonna go ahead and we're
gonna cut out gasoline and cards and we're
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gonna go do something. How do
you think how many people really understand?
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If you if we need more electricity, how is that electricity actually made.
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It's made with fossil fuels cold,
but they want to get rid of that.
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How are we going to create the
energy we need? Don't tell me
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that wind and sun are going to
be able to power up what we need.
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If everything, all the automobile and
trucks and everything else bus us all
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go to electric vehicles, we would
not be able to do it. I'm
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not the only one saying that.
So many people are saying it around the
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world. They're saying it. We
don't have enough distribution of electricity. In
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order for everyone to have the same
source, we need other sources. I
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have no problems with alternative energy,
but like everything, allocate, allocate,
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allocate. If we were only allocating
into one area and it all becomes alternative
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energy and we don't have anything else, what happens when wind doesn't blow,
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it's too cloudy for sun. We
want to use energy at different places I
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mean, you don't think about it. Okay, that's what's going to happen.
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Common sense, which I think we
are very short of back in Washington.
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All we concentrate on in Washington right
now this whole thing with Trump.
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They want him to go to jail
so bad so he won't be able to
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run for president. And all this
is doing right now is changing so many
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minds of people that we're in the
camp of. I love the Trump policies.
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I don't want him to run.
I'd rather somebody else go in to
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like, you know, the hell
with this. I'm voting for Trump because
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the things that he gone ahead and
said, what's happening happened. The lies
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that were made against them are coming
to fruition. All these indictments would never
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happen to anybody else. But more
than anything, what's going on right now
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in our country, it's called fairness. Even the most critical people of Trump
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that I know are saying it is
not fair that they are doing all this
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to him on chumped up charges when
the Biden family keeps escaping everything and we're
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not even talking about the Clintons.
People are tired of the two tier system,
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and it's so blatantly happening in front
of us, that a political opponent,
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the one that is leading everybody right
now, is being tried in every
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state they can by biased people,
biased attorneys generals, biased states, and
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they're hoping to get a biased,
friendly court to indict him so he has
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to go to jail. He might
be the first person that will go to
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jail and win the election. And
I hope that doesn't happen. It is
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a disgrace. As many of you
know, I traveled a lot to summer.
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They can't believe that we the people, we the people, are allowing
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this to happen, That we're allowing
one party to get prosecuted so badly and
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the other ones letting go. And
it's so blatant to people that are looking
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overseas and looking into news and it's
not Odd News, it's not Fox News,
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it's at all. It's CNN News, and they're not happy with it.
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Even if people of cnna's starting to
wake up and go, wait,
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wait a second, this isn't the
fairest thing in the world here, but
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they keep doing it because no one
has stopped them. We need to change
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so many things that have to happen
and I think more and more people believing
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that Trump has to be the guy. He did it once, he's gonna
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have to do it again. From
the border to the economy, me to
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foreign foreign policy, to putting people
that are not at work back to work.
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Stop giving them free stuff, Stop
living off everybody else. Go back
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to what America is based on,
what we've grown on, what our origins
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are. You work hard, you
get things that you need, what you
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want. If you cannot do that, you're disabled, you're incapacitated, then
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America will take care of you.
But this whole thing now, people starting
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to talk about putting mask back on
masks. Okay, because it's a new
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strain of COVID. Every year you're
gonna have a new strain of COVID.
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We need to say no, we
don't want to wear masks. We know
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they didn't work. We're not going
to do it again. Are they going
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to start letting not allowing kids to
go to school? Let me tell you
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something. We asked a simple question
to high school kids, simple question,
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what country is south of Tucson?
What country is south of Tucson? Ninety
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three percent of them got the answer
wrong. But it's not that got the
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answer wrong. It was the answers
they gave. We're so worried about teaching
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all these other things to kids in
school, transgender equality, this, that,
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all that stuff, we're not teaching
them simple peasic stuff that you need
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to know. I could not believe
some of the answers. Well, what's
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the country south of Tucson? And
they say south Tucson. Another said Nevada,
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another said California, another said Europe, another said Africa, another said
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Texas. A lot of them said
I don't know. I said California.
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Is that a country estate? They
didn't know the difference. We wonder why
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we are forty eighth in the country
and why we can't go forward and get
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things done. Our education system is
working and doing things on areas that we
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don't need. Yeah, it's fine. I'm all about equal equal rights.
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I'm all about getting rid of racism. I'm all about that, But not
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we need to go ahead and continue
to teach, educate because of our education
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goes down like it's being going down, we are going to be in trouble.
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People. We are going to be
in trouble if you don't have the
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people that say the country south of
Tucson is Mexico. We're in trouble,
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we really are. And how would
you expect them to vote? The only
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thing they're gonna vote on is what
they can get, what is free for
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them. What are they going to
be able to benefit from. You're asking
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people to go through and understand the
constitution, what our right saw. You
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know where they learned? They learn
from social media. So maybe we got
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to use social media to start teaching
basics to our children. The biggest thing.
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I remember the advertisement when we were
trying to get out of drugs.
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Here's a frying pan. This is
an egg. This is your brain on
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drugs. When they put the egg
into the frying pan and adjust bubbles up
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and fries I still remember that commercial, this is your brain on drugs.
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It's effective if we can put the
right things forward. It's embarrassing that kids
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today, high school kids don't know
the difference between countries and states. I
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mean, I don't know, I
don't know, But yet we worry about
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all these other things. How are
we expected to do it? And that's
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why we're divided. That's why our
nation is so divided, because what we're
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teaching kids politically and trying to get
the versions out. We are dividing us
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between things that one believes in the
other rather than no one's educated enough to
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understand the difference. And if they
want, I guess what, most people
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who are in the middle, most
people will compromise. It's a politicians that
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have done this down and put it
in this place. We're gonna be talking
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a lot about different things we got. We got a whole show coming up.
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Stay tuned, Thanks for listening.
This is Dan Greenberg. This is
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the money Bunting shows. Say it's
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but it wouldn't be make believe if
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only Canvasky hanging over land tree,
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believed in me went out an'll love. It's a hog, it's talk worry
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in lead word yst But it wouldn't
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yes. Welcome back everybody. This
is Dean Greenberg. This is the money
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Batty Show. Today we have Todd
Glick and Dylan Greenberg with us. Dave
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Sherwood took a trip to California to
go see his grandchildren. Good for him.
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He needs to take more trucks.
He's so funny. He's so funny.
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The kid. It's one hundred,
one hundred miles earlier. He calculated
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his outright to get there right when
the kids are getting out as cool,
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did he really? Yeah, listen, I'm so happy he goes to see
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his grandchildren and he has a good
time. It's the only vacation he likes
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to do. Other than that,
he likes to be in the office and
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hike and hike. He's a good
hike up. Remember, Yeah, what
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was that two years ago? Now? Yeah, that's great. Well,
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wait, I guess someone else has
to do the weather report. I'm just
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kidding ev today, not e d
eb. Obviously, the big news on
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the market's weather report was Navidio's big
earnings report that came out on Wednesday after
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the close. I mean, they
just absolutely killed it. Yeah, but
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you just see what suck did,
right, Well, it went up to
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five ten and after hours, and
then the next day it was up.
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It ended up ended that day at
four sixty, and then it released its
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earnings that afternoon, and then after
hours it was five ten. It opened
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the Thursday morning at like five oh
five, then slowly went down and ended
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the day flat, and then on
Friday it was down four percent just and
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it was down twenty points at one
time, and Friday came back to Clement.
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But it's not it's stock that you
trade to stock you hold right now
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very time. It's it's one of
those stocks that come in in your lifetime
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that all the signs are together on
it, where you might not get it
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right, but the stock for the
next couple of years. It's they're the
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ones that are driving AI. They're
the ones that are actually making money.
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All these other fringe companies that everyone
wants to buy because it's part of AILI
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dot com. You gotta learn your
lesson from that. Okay, the dot
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com company went down, except a
couple of them. The the the AI
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companies right now. You stay with
the good quality companies. And the video
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is the one making money off that. Michaels are spending a fortune, met
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is spending a fortune off of it. Yes, they're still making good money
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and their stocks are going up,
but the video is the one selling them
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chips. I mean the proofs and
the numbers, right, I mean when
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you see quarterly reports that are just
as they're just beating expectations. No one
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even has that. It's not a
price to magic ratio. They're really selling
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stuff. It's really on the books, right, It's not like Tesla where
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they're hypothecating growth. So what was
the lesson you learned this week? And
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well, it seems like it was
a profit taking lesson? Right, I
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mean when it runs up, going
into it, you want it? You
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you you you went ahead and said, okay, this ain't going up anymore,
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and you sold into it before the
earnings came out, and for good
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reason. History would tell you that
that happens sometimes. But right when off
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stock is too high, it makes
sense. But in the videous fanness,
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it did run up because the earnings
are good. It's pulled back on profit
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taking of people buying into it and
having having too big of a position and
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cutting the back. And then some
fear too that it is going to go
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all the way down. Yeah,
but listen, when I've seen this in
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my in the history of it,
where I see all the analysts raising their
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prices. Are the price of targets, the stock could come down, but
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it then gives them that much more
to go up. It's just I think
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for you or two they knock it
out of the palk. We talked about
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it last week too, how they
introduced their new chip that they haven't even
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started selling yet, which is going
to be able to make everything with the
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AI quicker than it already is.
And I already sold out of the current
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ship for what months, and that
ten thousand dollars a chip. They didn't
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price out the new one. But
it's the idea that there's just decades ahead
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of other AI companies. Yeah,
I don't think there's any competitors either.
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I mean I've been looking at AMD
for a while now, and that's really
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the closest two in the video that's
out there right now. They were down
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eight percent on Thursday when the video
ended flat, right, and they started
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the day up two percent, right. Well, there's a lot of profit
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taking going on. We came in
to Friday also with the Federal Reserve chairman
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talking Powell. That was kind of
a weird day two. The markets went
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high when down Pig came back and
finished up on the upside. We have
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a lot of selling into rallies right
now. There's a lot of resistance mitigating
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risk right now, so important we
keep talking about it all the time.
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We're coming into September. I could
see a rally next week a little bit.
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We're coming into labor day, I
mean maybe two percent of something maximum
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three possibly, I could see it
rallying a little bit, but then I
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see it coming all the way right
back down lower them. Where we were
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into month of September and October,
Well, if you're looking at historics,
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I mean the market rallies into three
day weekends, which is going to come
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up for the first weekend of September, and then the market has been down
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over all in September historically, So
if we're going off that, yeah,
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we could see a little rally and
then pull back, but then it does
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tend to come back in October.
Yeah. When jero Po spoke today,
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well Friday at Jackson Hole, there
was not a lot of things that he
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was saying that was spooking the markets, but really the developments in the labor
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market was where he was really spending
a lot of time on saying that he
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likes that the fact that he's not
seeing the growth that he was seeing a
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couple of months ago. And that's
really his concern of seeing continue wage growth
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continue. I mean that's that's leads
to inflation. And he came out and
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said we're stayings firm on our two
percent target. You see a whole bunch
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of people trying to say, maybe
they go to three, maybe they give
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up on the two percent fet share
pouces. That's not happening at all.
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It's never even hinted at it.
Now. His biggest problem is we have
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a workforce that keeps shrinking. Yeah, okay, which means then work then
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the prices are going high and productivity
is going down, okay, because people
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are getting paid more wanting to do
less. The new indicator is the core
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PC and wage growth, right,
wage growth. And the problem is to
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try to get wage growth out of
this. It's how you're going to get
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it when when you're at three and
a half percent, three point six,
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But send unemployment, Yeah, they
have to get them off free money.
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You get them more free money.
Someone's going to go to work or or
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instead again in details, we change
the immigration policy, okay, we actually
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bringing me and educate them and getting
them into jobs that we need. Yeah,
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I think a lot of people don't
realize the demographics of the United States.
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We are continuously giving left, birthing
less people each year, right,
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so the millennials are just not getting
I guess, how do you say this,
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birthing children the same rate that baby
boomers were, So you're not replacing
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the labor force. There's more people
dying than people are being born. It's
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down quite a bit too. Back
in the baby boomers, back in the
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fifties and all and sixties were having
an average three point two kids, and
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now it's like two point six.
Yeah, kids, And it doesn't sound
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like a big drop. It's one. It's one kid for family, yeah,
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right, and there's no law on
it like China had where now they're
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experiencing theirs. And it's not like
our economy states stagnant since the baby boomers.
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I mean, it was very common. My parents friends had eight nine
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seven kids at four and that wasn't
a lot. Okay, that was like
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average apparently, yeah, kind of
from the fifties and to sixty fifty seven
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to fifty eight sixty seven. Now
it's about two and a half. Yeah,
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I mean, and a lot of
people think it's because of the urbanization
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of everything, like when you get
more into cities. I don't know how
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true that is. It's also you
can't afford it. You want to give
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your kids a good life and put
him into college. I went to college
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who was five thousand a year for
tuition. Now that same college is sixty
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thousand dollars a year. There was
a thing saying that since I think nineteen
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seventy, everything has done, like
the housing prices, gas, all this
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stuff has done about ten to twelve
times increase, But the wages and the
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average salaries only done like six or
six times that much. So it's not
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keeping up with everything else inflating that
much. And that's the issue that we
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run into. And then like,
okay, we can't afford more kids.
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It's not even six times. Because
I look at your grandparents when was it
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nurse thinking about twenty two twenty three, there's no way that you would be
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making six times twenty one hundred and
twenty thousand. Yeah. Yeah, in
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New York. Yeah, it depends
on in New York. It could be
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grandpa, my dad. What for
the phone company? Okay, he was
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making forty five fifty, You think
they would make it two fifty three hundred
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now, no way, Yeah,
but I mean keep in mind, I
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mean, New York's a different inflation
zone than than other areas. Yeah,
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because I think one hundred thousand dollars
there, it's the same as about sixty
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here. No, it is,
it is. Well, he talk in
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New York City though obviously there's yeah, there's different demographics there. Yeah,
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Okay, Long Island's a little cheaper
probably than Manhattan. You know, so
403
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looking at what we look, I
mean the next FED meetings end of September,
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right, it didn't sound like he's
really wanting to raise race. It
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sounds like he wants more economic data
to come out. So it sounds like
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he's just gonna hold so he wants
the economy to go downhill. Yeah,
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00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,319
so we can stop wasting interest rates. Yes, he did say he's prepared
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the raise interest rates so if he
has to. Yeah, and didn't say
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the word cut once. So he's
not even thinking because there's still they're still
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00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,519
stronghold on two percent inflation, right, Yeah, and that's what's gonna happen.
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Then it's gonna sit in do the
other thing you have. Right now,
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the market is gonna go up.
It's gonna be light by. Most
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people are going on vacation. We've
been on vacation back East. On vacation.
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You don't usually go back to school
to the end of August begin or
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after Labor day, so this is
vacation time. Everybody after the labor day
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comes back. Then they start to
set reassessing on where we are and what's
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going on. And that's when you
shoot for some reason, is when you
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see the biggest declients. Yeah,
why is that? If it's that whole
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old monster who was selling May and
go away and then you come back after
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Labor day. All the traders come
back after vacation and they're back and September
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is down. Well, because what
happens is that if the markets are rallying
422
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into it or not, the markets
go down for whatever reason, all right,
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and that's when they come back and
buy again September October. But you
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could also make a case that the
introduction of more and more automated trading systems
425
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still of course, that's what I
believe too. I mean, I'm all
426
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over in Europe and I'm able to
trade. Oh, that's all I'm talking
427
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about. Back in the day before
that was a thing used to sell them
428
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and go wait, that's not a
thing anyway. Back in the day,
429
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,800
how do you think we used to
do trades? You to send it through
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the like at the bank. You
send it through the thing, you write
431
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,760
it down on a on a piece
of paper or whatever. Your order sheet
432
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you had you had to buy and
sell sheet. You had to fill out
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this whole ticket. You had to
go to what was called the window.
434
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You had to give it to the
the the wire operator at the window.
435
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Okay, she took it, she
put it in the order maybe thirty minutes,
436
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,159
forty five minutes later, if you're
lucky, you got back to Phil.
437
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,679
How many days did it take to
settle when that was when we first
438
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start, when I think that first
started was five Yeah, five days,
439
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,559
five days. They're about to turn
it down to one day settlement. Yeah.
440
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,000
Well, because everything's electronic, people
had certificates, they had to bring
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them in and stuff like that.
All right, we'll be back. It's
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the money about his show. I
appreciate your listening. This is Stan Greenberg,
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and it is the money about the
show. Hang it all, but
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it wouldn't. Well, welcome back
everybody, and Dean and Todd and Dylan
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and we're bringing you the Money Matters
show. Did we do the the market
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update A numbers this week? I
did? I did at the beginning.
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I want to I want to bring
up because before we get off this AI
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subject. But the other day I
had to get into my Exfinity account because
449
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I wanted to change things around.
You cannot talk to anybody anymore. I
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00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:39,320
get getting how can I help you, sir? I like to go ahead
451
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,239
and do this. Okay? One
minute they come back, and I kept
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00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,440
having questions and I finally got to
the frustration part. Can I speak to
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00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,119
a human please? I can help
you. What do you need? Can
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I speak to somebody that can actually
have a conversation? I think I can
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00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,960
help you. What can I do? This went on for ten minutes.
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00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:00,679
Ten minutes. They say, well, if I can't help you, I
457
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,920
will give you a live chat.
Okay, I give me a live agent.
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But I think I can help you. First let me know what you
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need helping. I was so frustrated
with the stupid AI stuff and not talking
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to anybody because I didn't even know. I said, how do I know
461
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this is the best what I need? I just made some changes. Tell
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00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:23,599
me what you're looking for? Then
I finally said, okay, do I
463
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:27,719
have this, this, and this. No, you don't have this,
464
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,559
but if you want it, I
said, well how do I get it?
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00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:31,639
Well, you have to do this
and it's going to cause you this
466
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,440
much money, I said, but
I already pay for those other things.
467
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,599
Do those come off? I don't
know if I can help you. Give
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me a live agent. I need
a live agent. Finally I got a
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00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,559
live agent. It wasn't live.
It was still texting on a computer.
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But at least they had a conversation
with you. It wasn't AI. Stupid
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answers when you go on a phone. If you're on a phone call and
472
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:55,679
it just keeps telling you through AI
stuff to say representative and most of the
473
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,719
time I'll send you to a live
person. Sometimes you can pound nine zero
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00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,119
nine starts. I will tell you
right now if that's the way the world's
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00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:09,559
going to it is with only AI. God bless you guys. It sucks.
476
00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:14,719
You can't because you can't have a
deep conversation. You can't get them
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00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,039
to help you do anything. Yeah, if you guys go that here,
478
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,760
forget it. I better not be
around. Well, there's there's something actually,
479
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,000
it's funny you bring that up because
it kind of leads into what I
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wanted to talk about with robo advisors
is obviously we understand that robo advisors really
481
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:35,039
came big into like twenty fifteen,
early to twenty tens, where robo advisors
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really started to being used for people
who don't know. Robo advisors are really
483
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,480
just what it kind of sounds like, a robot advisor. There's no human
484
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:45,239
that you interact with. It's just
they put you into a model, you
485
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,519
tell it what you want, and
then it just does it for you.
486
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But what a lot of these robo
advisors have been finding, for example,
487
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betterment, they are now introducing humans
to enter into the equation. They added
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human advice back in twenty seventeen,
and most robo advisors now are taking that
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hybrid approach because you're right, Deing, people do want to have a deeper
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conversation, not just the surface level, especially when it comes to something as
491
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important as their financial life. Well, humans actually ask questions back to find
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out what you want. That's what's
amazing about this business. No, you're
493
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a client, but you had all
these financial plans, all these things.
494
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,119
Oh it's all on computer. Okay, you know, just answer these questions,
495
00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:30,719
how do you think about our questions
that we actually ask a client passpects,
496
00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:35,519
We find out everything about them.
It's the only way you can deal
497
00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:37,199
with it. They had ground children, all these other stuff. What do
498
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,679
they want You get a feeling of
what they really are about. Well,
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00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,679
what they realize going to twenty seventeen
is that it's not just a trading mechanism
500
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and algorithm like they were trying to
go to that this business is still a
501
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:52,880
relationship business, and that's why they
need the human element that robots don't offer.
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00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:58,159
Right, there's only one advisor that
robot advisors still completely robotic. It's
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Wealth Front, But like I said, Better Men and all the other one
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00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,639
wealth Front okay, but all the
other ones like Better have a hybrid approach.
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00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:09,280
And Vanguard's hybrid option overseas far more
assets than the purely digital robo advisor.
506
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,960
They managed about two hundred and seventy
one billion versus thirteen billion. What's
507
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,599
the same idea? He just had
his issues with Exfinity. Right, when
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00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:19,679
you have an issue with your financial
stuff and it's your money, and you
509
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:21,679
want to get an answer, and
you can't because you gotta go through all
510
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:23,719
these hoops on AI. You're not
going to be happy. Yeah, I'm
511
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not even comfortable like doing it all
the zoom or something, you know,
512
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like like in these big cities they
all get it on the zoom, But
513
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:34,039
how do you even get these people? You know what I'm saying. Not
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00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:39,800
only that, I mean eighty percent
of language is communicated through the body.
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00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:43,960
Thank you. If you just have
the words, that's only twenty percent of
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00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,199
the equation. The body language gives
you a lot of emotional feedback. Good
517
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:51,920
thing the radio can't see that.
But at the end of the day,
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00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,679
it's important to actually have a relationship
with your advisor, right and especially if
519
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,440
you're just looking on the other side
of a screen. How can you really
520
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,679
have a relate if you don't have
any relationships? Think about what this is
521
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:08,360
doing to real relationships. Okay,
don't think it doesn't spill over to human
522
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,679
relationships, married couples and stuff like
that. As we're growing up, you
523
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:17,000
guys are a little bit different.
You want a relationship, and see how
524
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:22,480
hard it is to find someone of
the opposite sex to actually beat deep want
525
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:27,280
to have a relationship, They all
say it, but nobody understands how to
526
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,280
have one. It's called conversation,
like pick up the phone and talk,
527
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,800
not texts. Oh you talk to
that person? Oh what do they say?
528
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,039
Oh I don't know, we just
texts. I mean that's conversation.
529
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:43,760
Passion is incredible. People don't have
passion anymore. They're so afraid, let's
530
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,840
just say mediocre this business. You
stay right where we are, the roots,
531
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,599
the old school roots, they still
work. Yeah, but at the
532
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:52,360
end of the day, a lot
of people do still have passion, and
533
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,639
a lot of people do still like
the converse human to human, but it's
534
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,239
getting less and less, it seems. But then the people that do still
535
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,760
like doing that tend to be more
outgoing. They're more successful too. It's
536
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,400
more happy. And how many times
actually pick up a phone and talk to
537
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:12,159
a girl my mom not your mom? Will talking about it? Like the
538
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,760
ask a girl out for a date. No, it doesn't happen. It
539
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,199
doesn't happen until probably like you,
like on a third date or something like
540
00:42:17,199 --> 00:42:21,119
that. So what would happen if
you tried it? But they think you're
541
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,079
weird? Yes, I don't know
my age, No, not really,
542
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:25,639
I think a lot of my age. I mean, if you call someone
543
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:30,159
it's weird you FaceTime them, it's
less weird. That's how it is.
544
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:34,039
You FaceTime someone, it's less weird. But that's even weird in the sense
545
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:38,360
that people younger than you only converse
on Snapchat, no texting. They don't
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00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,719
text. They ask for their snapchat, not their number anymore, which at
547
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,559
least make Snapchat like a company that
you think might last, no for stock
548
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,079
going back to the markets, might
last if they have that demographic, they
549
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:52,639
actually will have one. Yeah,
I don't know, a little crazy and
550
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:54,480
it's gonna be text at the end
of the day. And I think there
551
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:58,920
is that. It's the same thing
as social media, right, people who
552
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,559
are don't ever talking public. They're
the biggest mouse on social media because they're
553
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:06,639
behind the screen. It's protection,
right, you're not we don't have to
554
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:08,280
be worried about if you get rejected. Who cares. It wasn't really you
555
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,880
that got rejected. It's your digital
self, right, you're not connected.
556
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,039
So it's like that separation of self. I don't get out. People have
557
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:17,199
hundreds of texts on red though,
and they're like, oh, I just
558
00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:21,519
suck at texting. It's like but
they don't call them back or yeah that
559
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:23,960
or like the conversation. People won't
have a voicemail set up, yeah,
560
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,000
or they're not a listen to a
voicemails. A voicemail box is full,
561
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:31,840
you know, it's like, it's
it's pretty easy. It's it's it's it's
562
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:37,360
a sad commentary between them not knowing
states and countries, not wanting to communicate,
563
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,840
not wanting to talk. But when
we talk, where do we go
564
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,760
as a country? This is all
this is all different. I mean,
565
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:50,719
it's you know, we've gone from
a united collective to more and more individual,
566
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,119
individualistic, selfish. Yes, that's
why I will not hire anyone that
567
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:58,599
has ever played a team sport again, no eye and scene. But going
568
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:00,360
back to the robots real quick,
I mean, the best robo advisor ranked
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00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:07,000
on all things in terms of total
financial planning, transparient conflict transparency and conflicts
570
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:10,559
features, customer experience the whole nine
yards. Schwab Intelligent Portfolios led the way,
571
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,639
Meryl Guided is the second, and
the bottom was so far and better
572
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:22,760
Mints, So take that for what
you will. And the best performing robo
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00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,920
advisor was Fidelity to Go on a
five year annualized basis and wealthfront so take
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00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,719
that away. It will Thank you, mister Robot. I appreciate it.
575
00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:37,920
You know obvious, yes, obviously
we had the Central Bank with the Fed.
576
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,559
Did you see what the China China
did on Monday? They did not
577
00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:44,400
lower rates as much as the market
was expecting, right, which is kind
578
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,239
of surprising. You'd think, why
wouldn't they You know, everyone was expecting
579
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:52,440
it, and they're having a lot
of problems over there, and you know
580
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,840
they're they're trying to help the mortgage
policies, they're trying to lower the rates
581
00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:01,360
a little bit, but why wouldn't
they lower him completely? He's not an
582
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:08,840
economist. Is all about communism,
not the economies. He hasn't been schooled
583
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:15,360
on that, okay, because in
communism they control everything. You make it
584
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,039
too much money, we take some
of it back. You don't have enough
585
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:20,119
money, we give it to you, but just what we want in return.
586
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:24,199
That's how he looks at economics.
Yeah, his everything is about military,
587
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,280
be the strongest military, take over
all these areas in the world.
588
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:31,119
That's what he's doing well. And
then they're also trying to do the whole
589
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:36,719
bricks thing. I'll lead that.
They are leading that talking about how they're
590
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,679
going to devalue the dollar and this, and that's putting a lot of fear
591
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,840
into people's minds because they see it
on media and they don't really know what's
592
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,159
going on. But at the end
of the day, the dollar is still
593
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,920
the main currency being traded in oil, which they keep That's the biggest one
594
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:53,239
is that they talk about how India
is using rupees in the ruble and stuff
595
00:45:53,280 --> 00:46:00,280
like that to trade oil. But
the Indian India is foreign minister. Y,
596
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,760
I'll find the word. It's finance
minister. Their finance minister said that
597
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,119
it's not even gonna happen for a
long time. If the dollar loses value
598
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:09,440
in the trade of the whole world, it's going to take a long time.
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00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:12,800
He's like, I wish the rupie
would be the main one, but
600
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,920
it's just I'm realistic. It's not
going to lose value like people think it
601
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,880
is right now. He's telling this
to CNBC, and he's because they are
602
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,519
still the main dominant currency is the
dollar trading around the world. And you
603
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:25,679
can't just stop that, even though
the media is making it seem like they
604
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:30,800
are just stopping. Because back to
dollar, okay, and and what really
605
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,239
backs the dollar, right, Let's
get real detailed. Well, you should
606
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,079
be gold, but it's not gold. What backs our dollars are military?
607
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,159
Okay, it really is. If
anyone disputes us, we go in and
608
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:46,039
we put our military on that lane. Right, that's what That's just deep.
609
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:52,320
I like it. So as long
as we have the world strongest military.
610
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,320
I don't think, well, that's
why she only wants to do with
611
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,760
the military. He thinks that's the
answer to It does seem like she's trying
612
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,159
to go less way. He's not
trying to continue the globalistic trend, the
613
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:07,239
globalism right. He wants to be
more centralized and not dependent on the external
614
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,719
countries. It'll coming up to the
heartbreak when we come back. We're going
615
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,559
to talk about how do you plan
for all this? We're get in a
616
00:47:14,559 --> 00:47:17,639
little bit more details, how do
you mitigate the risk? And I'm gonna
617
00:47:17,679 --> 00:47:22,679
talk a little bit more of you
know why I'm in a yellow flag and
618
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,519
not a red flag yet. I'm
looking for a big market turndown. But
619
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,960
it means that we probably don't have
a big upside at all right now,
620
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,679
So be cautious, be careful,
and that's the stance you need to take.
621
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We'll be right back it's Stein Greenberg, just the money Amotter show.
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Me. Yes, it's all Canisky
hanging all the theletrink, but it wouldn't
623
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welcome back everybody to the second hour
of the Money Matter Show to repeat the
624
00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:01,880
markets this week, we're actually up
a little bit, except the doubt that
625
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,800
that was down a half a one
percent. S and P was up just
626
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:09,079
under one percent, NASTAC up two
point three percent. For the month,
627
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:14,239
they're all down. That was down
three and a half, s ANDPS down
628
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:19,800
four, nastac's down over five,
and the equal weightedt SMPS down over five
629
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,960
also. So what does this mean, Well, it means in August we're
630
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,320
going into September. It means where's
the money to keep making markets higher?
631
00:48:27,639 --> 00:48:32,440
Interest rates keep going higher? You
know, the bottom line is we continue
632
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,039
to tell people to be cautious.
Right Gold was up a little bit this
633
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:39,360
week, Oil was down a little
bit this week. So not too many
634
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,880
moves in the commodity space. The
interest rates didn't. I mean, they
635
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,239
ticked up higher and then they kind
of came down a little bit after Drone
636
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,719
House boke. So if you believe
like we do, to be cautious right
637
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,519
now until we get through this interest
rate thing until we start seeing some things
638
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:58,760
turn, until the markets actually fall
off. See we go through the recession,
639
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,800
we churn. But the idea is
you always have to be prepared beforehand.
640
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,119
And the only way you're gonna do
this is you put a plan together
641
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:08,159
and you guys can talk a little
bit about the plan and what you've been
642
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:14,679
seeing and how it's been working.
It blows my mind on how many people
643
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:17,920
want a plan but don't have one
right now, twenty nine percent of people
644
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:24,559
that have investable money I have a
plan. Twenty nine percent to people have
645
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:30,679
a plan. Sixty I think it
was sixty seven percent of people said they
646
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,719
should have a plan. That's more
than half don't have a plan. That's
647
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,639
say they should. I'm not sure
who the other thirty percent is, but
648
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:40,920
yeah, And at the end of
the day, the main thing that plan
649
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,840
does is help us get to know
you, and that's how you build a
650
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,400
relationship. Like we were talking about
in the first hour. I mean,
651
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,360
we met with a couple of people
last week and we find out exactly what
652
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,119
they want, where they are right
now, how they're invested, and the
653
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:55,679
reasons as to why they're not happy
with their investments. It's not like they're
654
00:49:55,679 --> 00:49:59,280
in bad stocks or anything, any
penny stocks. They're like that, we're
655
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,519
just tanking. It was what's their
allocation was not in line with their risk
656
00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:05,440
tolerance. But they never really looked
at it. They just gave it to
657
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,320
somebody years ago and just left it
and didn't look at it. But now
658
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,119
they're looking at it and they say, yeah, I don't really want this
659
00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:14,400
much risk anymore. I'm hitting retirement. I'm in retirement. I want more
660
00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:17,360
security, more guarantee in that sense. And when they say words like that
661
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,840
and everything like that, we get
to an idea of who they are and
662
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,679
what their goals are through retirement.
And really the only way that can happen
663
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:29,159
is if we go through that financial
plan and help you figure out where you
664
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:30,599
want to go through retirement. That's
what the best part about it is.
665
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,880
Yeah, and the financial plan is
not just for the person that's going into
666
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,519
retirement in five years or in retirement. It's for everyone. I mean,
667
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:44,000
for example, we had a family
that came in this week in their forties
668
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,840
and they have, you know,
the common goals. They want to pay
669
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:53,800
off college for their youngest, they
want to build up a retirement nest egg
670
00:50:53,960 --> 00:51:00,280
enough to satisfy their living spending that
they're currently living at. Because oviously,
671
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,440
if you're spending a hundred twenty thousand
dollars now, in twenty years with inflation,
672
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,880
it's going to be a lot lot
more. So you can't think of,
673
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:08,760
Okay, how am I going to
get to a one hundred twenty thousand
674
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,360
dollars a yearly income because by the
time you get that, that's not going
675
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,159
to be a quality of life that
you actually want to live. And it's
676
00:51:15,159 --> 00:51:19,119
hard for people to really think when
they're twenty years away from retirement, how
677
00:51:19,199 --> 00:51:22,239
valuable is this to me? Right? Because it's like so many things can
678
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,199
change, and that's exactly it.
Things do change, But if you never
679
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,519
start, how do you know how
it changed in the first place? Right,
680
00:51:29,559 --> 00:51:32,199
You're just spitballing at that point.
That's why when we have someone in
681
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,239
their thirties, forties or fifties,
we want to meet once a year,
682
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,599
we want to redo the financial plan
and things will change every single year,
683
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:44,039
whether it be income to a slide
amount which will change Social Security and a
684
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:46,480
slide amount which changes for one K
contributions in a slide amount. All these
685
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,320
things are things to look at as
well as life insurance, especially for the
686
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:53,199
individuals in their thirties and forties and
fifties that have dependents that rely on them,
687
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:59,599
especially single income households. If you're
not exactly analyzing how much life insurance
688
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:02,280
you need to protect your family,
and then you never actually planned for it
689
00:52:02,519 --> 00:52:07,639
and that unfortunate event ever happens,
that's a very bad place to be putting
690
00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:09,280
your family in. Yeah, you
nail it to The younger you are,
691
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,719
the more frequently you have to update
your financial plan because there's a lot more
692
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,960
variables that come into your life throughout
the years, rather than when you're retired,
693
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,679
you're pretty much set. You have
your idea of you probably will travel
694
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,719
more. That's the main thing we
see. And then you want to leave
695
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,400
stuff to your grandkids, to your
kids or something like that, or a
696
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:30,039
charity. But when you're forty or
when you're in your thirties, you're gonna
697
00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:30,599
have all of a sudden, you
have a kid, all of a sudden,
698
00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:34,039
you have another kid, or you
all of a sudden get a huge
699
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:37,239
promotion, and your lifestyle can change. But you want to see how that
700
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:42,719
will fit going twenty years forward and
it's so hard for people to actually understand
701
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,280
compound interest, right because when you're
twenty years away and say, okay,
702
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,360
I'm putting ten thousand away into my
formum on kay, what does that mean?
703
00:52:47,559 --> 00:52:51,000
What is that going to grow to? Well, we had that actually
704
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,480
on last Monday, we went went
with a client and she wanted her daughter
705
00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:58,840
to start learning about all that.
She's nineteen and there's the idea that she
706
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,239
didn't know much about to say,
seeing she wanted to kind of show her
707
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,960
and have us walk her through some
different ideas of how to start saving and
708
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,639
ways to get going and as a
student as a college and you obviously aren't
709
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:10,000
going to have a ton of money
to save. That's not when you're making
710
00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:14,159
your money. But it's the idea
of building the habit early is really what
711
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,440
we try to drive home. You
start building the habit early. What if
712
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,519
it's putting twenty dollars away a month, whatever it can be for you.
713
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:22,039
You build a habit that'll just keep
growing as and then all of a sudden
714
00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:24,599
you're making more money in your thirties, you'll have the habit of Okay,
715
00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:30,159
I put this portion away of my
end of my salary I'll put this away
716
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,679
because I've already don This is what
I'm gonna keep doing it, and it's
717
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:35,039
the idea of compounding interests at it. We showed her if she started to
718
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:38,800
say today, forty five years from
now when she retires, or forty forty
719
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,039
years from now when she retires,
it's gonna be and you just max siwey
720
00:53:43,159 --> 00:53:45,679
roth iiraa is what we showed her. It was max siwey roth ira every
721
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,239
year one or forty years one point
five million dollars. If she waited twenty
722
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,320
years to do it, so you
cut it in a half, it would
723
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,599
be two hundred and seventy four thousand
dollars, and then it's okay, I
724
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:59,599
have to make up for it another
way, so you double your investments,
725
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:02,000
but still wait twenty years. It
didn't go to one point five million.
726
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,000
It only went to five hundred and
seventy four thousand, So it doesn't.
727
00:54:06,039 --> 00:54:09,599
The compounding interest is what really gets
you, and the biggest doubles are later
728
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:14,679
on in life when they're roughly sixty
the most out of twenty, right,
729
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,320
I mean, the most valuable resource
asset. Any young person has its time
730
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:24,239
exactly and it's so hard because humans
don't understand compound interest. It does exponential
731
00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:28,679
does not compute in our heads,
right, we are log meritic thinkers,
732
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,320
So it just does not work or
compute. I mean, for example,
733
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,639
I've always told this people. If
you try to fold a piece of paper,
734
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,760
and theoretically you're able to fold a
piece of paper unlimited amount of times,
735
00:54:38,199 --> 00:54:40,440
how many times would it take to
fold a piece of paper on top
736
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,880
of itself to reach from the Earth
to the moon. I don't know.
737
00:54:45,559 --> 00:54:49,159
Yeah, a lot of people think, okay, one hundred or a thousand,
738
00:54:49,159 --> 00:54:52,880
a million times, it's only forty
two times you fold a piece of
739
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,599
paper on itself. Forty two times, that's the length from the Earth to
740
00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:58,159
the moon. And a lot of
people that the nerds, there's no way,
741
00:54:58,199 --> 00:55:00,920
there's no way it is. That's
the power of compounding interest. Because
742
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,760
once you get up to those law
of large numbers and you start doubling those
743
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,519
large numbers, you're talking about huge
increases. Yeah, and that's the power
744
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:12,880
of compounding. So again, people
have to realize that when you're young,
745
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,159
the most valuable asset you have is
time, and don't think that all the
746
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:20,400
variables that come into your life is
why you shouldn't start now. That's actually
747
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,960
why you should. There's always an
excuse as to why to start later.
748
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:28,400
But everybody I've talked to in their
thirties and forties that didn't start in their
749
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,360
twenties wish they start in their twenties
because and the same reason for everybody.
750
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,440
They said, in my twenties,
I didn't care in my twenties, my
751
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,679
twenties, I wasn't making a bunch
of money. I figured, I'll deal
752
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:39,159
with it in my thirties. I'll
deal with it when I have a family.
753
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,519
I'll deal with it when I have
a house already, or if I
754
00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:45,079
can buy a house, I'll deal
with it then. Then it is already
755
00:55:45,079 --> 00:55:49,159
after the fact that it's too late. And every one of them said they
756
00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:51,559
wish they started earlier, and they
wish they started in their twenties, and
757
00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:54,320
they wish they had somebody and tell
them in their twenties just start, yeah,
758
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,199
just start, and it'll work.
I mean, you can't. But
759
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,039
I've always seen this time and time
again. People will find a way to
760
00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:05,280
spend the money. Yep. If
they have a quality of life, say
761
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,000
one hundred thousand, and they get
bumped up to one fifty, they're gonna
762
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,679
find a way to spend one fifty. They're gonna take more vacations, they're
763
00:56:09,679 --> 00:56:13,199
gonna buy nicer stuff. They're gonna
just do it and always find a way.
764
00:56:13,199 --> 00:56:16,079
It's pretty easy to spend more money. Right. What everyone needs to
765
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:21,639
do is find a percentage. Right. It's all based on proportions, right,
766
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:27,760
Find a percentage of your take home
pay that you can every month put
767
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,719
away into some type of investment account, whether it be your four one K
768
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:34,719
I Ray, whatever it may be. Those type of things are so important.
769
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,039
Those needs to be. They need
to be thought of as a bill.
770
00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:39,440
Right. When you have a car
bill, that's not a negotiable thing
771
00:56:39,519 --> 00:56:42,800
like oh I didn't have enough this
month, I can do it. It's
772
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,880
like, well, you have to
or you're gonna get the charge late fees.
773
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,159
Right. So that's how your brain
should think about future investments and with
774
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,719
it. The idea is, don't
overextend yourself because you're feeling all of a
775
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,480
sudden you have to save everything.
Give yourself a percentage where you won't have
776
00:56:55,519 --> 00:56:59,719
to mess with it. If say
it's three percent, say it's five percent,
777
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,840
say ten percent, whatever it is, give yourself a percent is where
778
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,800
you can do it constantly every month
without having a mess with it. Just
779
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:08,480
stick with ten percent forever. Yeah. Vanguard says they want you to do
780
00:57:08,519 --> 00:57:12,599
around thirteen to fifteen percent of your
take on pay and that's a lot.
781
00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:15,199
That's hard for people who haven't started, right. Yeah, so start at
782
00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:19,760
three, start at five percent,
and then every year increase it by one
783
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,760
percent. That way, you're not
going to notice it as much, but
784
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,480
you'll get to eventually that thirteen fifteen
percent, and you have a roadmap to
785
00:57:25,519 --> 00:57:28,880
get there. Instead of saying,
oh, I'll do it when I get
786
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,519
that raise, or oh I'll do
it when this happens. The roadmap is
787
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:35,400
the best part we in. It
doesn't work because then you lose track of
788
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,800
time, You lose track of everything. It's just you don't have a plan.
789
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:38,960
And a lot of people are like, well, what does ten dollars
790
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,400
do? I might as well not
even do it if that's my proportion.
791
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,079
Well, if you have that money
to spare, that's what matters. Again,
792
00:57:45,719 --> 00:57:50,079
everything is proportional. The person making
a million dollars or one hundred thousand
793
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:52,960
dollars putting away ten percent is doing
the exact same thing for themselves, and
794
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,559
if you start with the ten bucks
a month or whatever it is, you'll
795
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:58,519
feel a lot happier than the year. If you have one hundred and twenty
796
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:00,719
dollars all of a sudden in a
savings account that you didn't have before because
797
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:04,360
you spent it all and now you
can save up and you're like, oh,
798
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,719
I can do more next year.
I felt good about that. And
799
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,800
if you're young, please put a
budget together. It is sound. I
800
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:15,360
know everyone tells you this and it
sounds like everything you've heard in school and
801
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,679
from your grandparents and parents, but
it's a very important thing to at least
802
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,079
analyze yourself on a monthly basis.
Me and Dylan do it every single month,
803
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:27,960
and it's probably our We dread it
every month because it shows us where
804
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,559
we spent the money, and every
month we're like, how the heck did
805
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:35,719
we do that? But we know
at that point it keeps you responsible and
806
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,079
accountable, because I mean there's weekends
where I'm like, I go away and
807
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:39,400
I say I have a little too
much fun in my head, I'm like,
808
00:58:39,559 --> 00:58:42,719
I didn't have that much fun,
I'm all right, and then I
809
00:58:42,719 --> 00:58:45,280
put it into my budget. Playing
in my expense sheet, and I saw
810
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,440
I did have too much fun,
so I gotta slow down the next month.
811
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,840
But if I didn't put it in
the sheet and actually hold myself accountable
812
00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:55,000
to see that I did have a
little too much fun, then I wouldn't
813
00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:00,840
have slowed down the next month.
Right, And so let's let's switch right
814
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:06,679
from the young individual to the person
approaching retirement. Obviously, this person is
815
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:13,079
the most in need of a financial
plan because they're entering the most important phase
816
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:16,800
of their life. They're exiting the
accumulation phase and entering the de accumulation phase
817
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:21,159
yep. And a lot of these
people either are gonna have pensions, they're
818
00:59:21,159 --> 00:59:24,039
gonna have Social Security, they're gonna
have required minimum distributions, they're gonna have
819
00:59:24,119 --> 00:59:29,360
Medicare premims that are based on their
income, so whether they're taking large distributions,
820
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,320
that all comes into play. If
you think you could do that all
821
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,400
in your head, you're crazy.
It needs to be on a piece of
822
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,519
paper, in a software, something
that you can refer back to, because
823
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:42,360
humans are valuable, right, So
don't think that you're perfect. No one
824
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,320
is. But when you can have
something to refer back to and understand why
825
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,719
you're doing what you're doing. You
don't. You don't get scared when the
826
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:52,440
markets are down, because if you
hit that first retirement the markets down twenty
827
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,159
percent and you didn't put a plan
together, you're gonna freak out. You're
828
00:59:54,159 --> 00:59:57,400
gonna think, oh, I gotta
change my plan, even though you never
829
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,599
had one in the first place,
whereas if you had one, plays you
830
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:04,360
know, Okay, we expected this, we knew this could happen, and
831
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,320
it would. This plan is still
gonna work no matter if this continues.
832
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:07,960
Well, that's a big thing.
We look at too. At the end
833
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,400
of the plan, once it's all
completed and everything, we've had a cash
834
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,920
flow chart of everything. We put
together. It's onto one sheet and we
835
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,159
look at it's called the combined detail
sheet, and we take it's from the
836
01:00:17,199 --> 01:00:22,480
Monte Carlo simulation of a thousand different
scenarios of your retirement plan, good to
837
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:24,800
bad to the worst. We take
one of the worst ones to see if
838
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,800
your plan can work during this worst
time. And it's either bad time in
839
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,360
retirement, like if you've retired in
two thousand we had three down years in
840
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:36,639
a row, or just the return
and it's timing and if it's that,
841
01:00:36,719 --> 01:00:38,239
but we look at one of the
worst times, and if you can succeed
842
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:43,119
during that it is you'll most likely
succeed because but in that sheet, it
843
01:00:43,239 --> 01:00:45,760
shows, Okay, you're four.
I retired. It was just a flat
844
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:50,079
year for three years. But I'm
still my portfolios all right, because I'm
845
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:52,679
still taking my retirement money on.
I still got this Social Security coming.
846
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,239
And then all of a sudden,
year four was minus thirty percent. But
847
01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:00,199
then it shows, okay, not
too good. It shows that you're whole.
848
01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:04,199
Total portfolio value went down thirty percent, but the next year was up
849
01:01:04,199 --> 01:01:06,280
thirty percent. The next year after
that was up ten percent. We went
850
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,800
into a five year bull market,
and all of a sudden, your plans
851
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,079
more than it was. If you
don't know that, if you don't see
852
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:15,039
at least not that in your head
that that could happen, all you would
853
01:01:15,039 --> 01:01:17,039
see four years in the retirement is
a thirty percent down here, and all
854
01:01:17,039 --> 01:01:20,840
of a sudden, you're not working
anymore, you're taking money out. It
855
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,360
could freak you out. You could
get scared of it because you don't know
856
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,280
what's going to happen next, What
could happen next if you never thought about
857
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:30,639
it, right, And so we
deliver those expectations to the client, we'd
858
01:01:30,719 --> 01:01:34,559
show you the worst case scenario.
We're not sitting here trying to give false
859
01:01:34,599 --> 01:01:37,400
expectations. That's why we use one
of the worst scenarios, right, and
860
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:42,119
we expect ourselves to do better than
that. But we don't, you know,
861
01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:45,800
guarantee anything, because obviously everything in
the markets is a non guarantee.
862
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:51,079
That's why we used the Monte Carlo
simulation. We talked about it last week
863
01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:54,440
with how gambling organizations use that to
find how much risk they're exposed to.
864
01:01:55,199 --> 01:02:01,760
It's really hard to calculate risk other
than using simulations, you know what I
865
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:07,039
mean. And a lot of people
don't understand the sequence of returns, right.
866
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:09,239
If you have three down years in
a row or only one bad year
867
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,360
down year in a row, and
then let's say, for example, you
868
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,239
have three down years to start retirement
and then the next seven years are good,
869
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:21,880
or you have a down year every
other year for ten years. Right,
870
01:02:22,519 --> 01:02:24,119
When you have a different set of
sequence of returns, you're gonna have
871
01:02:24,159 --> 01:02:30,000
a different type of portfolio that a
different impact on your portfolio because of liquidity,
872
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:34,360
the more a portfolio goes down,
the less you're gonna be able to
873
01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:38,159
have liquid obviously, things like annuities. How are you going to actually be
874
01:02:38,199 --> 01:02:42,679
able to utilize annuities if you're just
doing something on the back of a napkin
875
01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:45,840
saying, Okay, I need twenty
thousand dollars of income a year. I
876
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,039
know, uh well, sorry,
let's say fifty thousand dollars of income a
877
01:02:49,079 --> 01:02:51,679
year. I know twenty thousand comes
from Social Security. I got a ten
878
01:02:51,719 --> 01:02:53,880
thousand dollars pension, so I need
twenty thousand out of my IRA. Okay,
879
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:59,079
I'm gonna take my IRA, I'm
gonna put it into this annuity that's
880
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:01,639
gonna guarantee me twenty thousand a year. But what happens if that twenty thousand
881
01:03:01,639 --> 01:03:07,199
a year that you're getting from the
annuity lumps in all of your liquid assets,
882
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,400
and then one of those years in
retirement you have an emergency expense,
883
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,119
say your roof. You need to
replace your roof, you need twenty thousand.
884
01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:15,719
You don't have access to any of
that. What happens then you didn't
885
01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:21,960
think about the liquidity side of retirement. You love the guaranteed income, but
886
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,159
what does that do for you now
when you don't have enough in the bank.
887
01:03:24,239 --> 01:03:29,280
So we look at a multitude of
things. When finding the best product,
888
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,960
investment, the best strategy for someone, it's the risk, it's the
889
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,159
goals and objectives, It's how safe
they are from a liquidity standpoint, What
890
01:03:38,239 --> 01:03:42,719
kind of protection do they have.
There's a lot of what kind of pension
891
01:03:42,719 --> 01:03:45,679
guarantees do they have? Right?
And another thing that we always do in
892
01:03:45,719 --> 01:03:52,119
our scenarios is we put social security
at an increase of less than one and
893
01:03:52,159 --> 01:03:55,519
a half percent that the actual inflation
rate goes to. So say in the
894
01:03:55,559 --> 01:03:59,840
plan, the inflation rates at two
point five percent, we're only growing social
895
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:02,880
security at one percent each year.
Many financial plans think, oh, so
896
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,800
is gonna grow with whatever inflation is. We all know that that's never the
897
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:11,679
case because Medicare premiums increase of inflation
increases, and that the ducks out of
898
01:04:11,719 --> 01:04:15,239
your soul security. So a lot
of plans are fallible because they're not actually
899
01:04:15,519 --> 01:04:19,000
thinking about realistic scenarios. A lot
of plans don't even include Medicare costs.
900
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:24,480
Right, Okay, we're taking money
out of our IRA each year, that's
901
01:04:24,519 --> 01:04:28,039
taxable income. What happens if that
sense is to the next bracket, now,
902
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:30,679
our Medicare premiums jump up. Now
we're getting less so security. Now,
903
01:04:30,679 --> 01:04:32,199
how much income do we have?
Really? Yeah, that's the idea
904
01:04:32,239 --> 01:04:35,039
with how we run our financial plans
as this idea of giving you a realistic
905
01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:39,800
look. We don't want to just
try and buff it up to make it
906
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,440
look good to make you happy so
you do business with us. We want
907
01:04:42,519 --> 01:04:45,039
to make it look as realistic as
possible because I know social security is a
908
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:47,719
huge thing right now that people get
scared of that it might not be there
909
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,320
or it's gonna go away quicker than
they say. So that's why we give
910
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:57,079
the realistic outlook of what we see
and we're here to help. For example,
911
01:04:57,159 --> 01:04:59,880
we just had someone to come in
we've done a lot of work for.
912
01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:02,360
We're not going to get a dime
from him, Nope, because we
913
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,199
don't. It's not always about what
we get, it's about what we can
914
01:05:06,239 --> 01:05:10,920
give. But what we did and
what helped him figure out now he's pretty
915
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,159
much gonna be set for what he
wants to do for the rest of retiring
916
01:05:13,199 --> 01:05:15,480
with him. And and it wasn't
that he needed more income, you know,
917
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:19,480
it wasn't that he needed more investment
returns. It was he wanted a
918
01:05:19,519 --> 01:05:24,119
specific goal and wanted to know how
can I obtain it? And that's what
919
01:05:24,239 --> 01:05:27,159
we did through creating the financial plan, and then at the end of the
920
01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:29,760
time and then we had the idea
of where he wanted to go. It
921
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,199
was just different. It's going to
go a different route where we're not going
922
01:05:31,239 --> 01:05:34,559
to manage money, and that's perfectly
fine. We still created the plan with
923
01:05:34,679 --> 01:05:39,000
him, gave him the plan all
free. That's not why we're here to
924
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:42,440
do it. We're doing to here
the help because now that's a huge load
925
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,119
off his chet. He was so
happy when he walked out of here because
926
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:46,679
now he gets to enjoy the life
that him and his wife wanted to enjoy
927
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,079
the rest of their life. What
do I owe you guys who said nothing?
928
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:54,599
Maybe just a review on Google exactly. That's all we'll ever ask for,
929
01:05:55,079 --> 01:05:58,639
because really, the satisfaction we get
out of helping people is so much
930
01:05:58,679 --> 01:06:00,960
more than the satisfaction than any figure
can give you. Yeah, you know
931
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,920
what I mean. That happiness that
we saw in his face, knowing that
932
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,280
we had his best interest in mind. Whether it made us money or not,
933
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,760
we don't care about that. We
care what's the best for this client.
934
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,519
And if it's not with us.
It's not with us, you know
935
01:06:14,519 --> 01:06:16,480
what I mean. We're never going
to be the people that force anyone into
936
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,559
a product because it means more dollars
in our pocket exactly. And what we
937
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,039
try and listen to what the needs
are I mean, and if it is
938
01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:27,960
guaranteed stuff, then we do go
down the annuity route because we can't offer
939
01:06:28,039 --> 01:06:30,559
guarantees. That's just not in our
businesses, can't offer them. We're not
940
01:06:30,599 --> 01:06:33,199
sitting there selling annuities. But if
you guarantee is what you're looking for,
941
01:06:33,239 --> 01:06:36,199
we can't help you in that aspect
as well, and we never suggest putting
942
01:06:36,239 --> 01:06:40,760
your whole portfolio into an annuity.
And the beautiful thing about our financial plan
943
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:45,559
really our team is we're not just
planners, right. We have connections to
944
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:51,480
people who know understand reverse mortgages,
mortgages themselves, estate planners, CPAs,
945
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:58,960
property and casualty right all homeown and
in general exactly, I mean, anything
946
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,280
that could affect your finance life,
we have someone something connected to it that
947
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,159
can help you and we all work
together so they know they're we're all on
948
01:07:05,199 --> 01:07:10,280
the same page, right. So
obviously we've kind of went through all the
949
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,199
different stages of life that you could
possibly how you can utilize the financial plan.
950
01:07:14,679 --> 01:07:18,159
And now the next step is just
reach out really give us a call.
951
01:07:18,239 --> 01:07:21,239
Whenever you have the availability. We'll
find a time on the calendar.
952
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,920
It's going to be absolutely free.
The first initial meetings. First time we
953
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,760
come in, we do the financial
plan, We send you the report.
954
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,280
After the first meeting, we send
you the risk tolerance questionnaire. Once you
955
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,719
fill that out and we understand your
risk, then we can start building the
956
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:40,360
proposal. We have a whole packet
that we give stated all the recommendations that
957
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,840
outlooks, the projections, the illustrations, all in one packet for you to
958
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,320
review, take home, you know, decipher, come up with more questions.
959
01:07:47,679 --> 01:07:50,679
We then answer those questions and if
you feel comfortable to move forward with
960
01:07:50,679 --> 01:07:55,840
the plan, we implement the strategy. If not, no obligation and there's
961
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,159
still no cost yep. And that's
the only time that would any cost that
962
01:07:59,159 --> 01:08:00,679
it would come into it if you
decide to move forward and we open them
963
01:08:00,679 --> 01:08:03,239
to count and then we're beginning to
manage your money. And that's how the
964
01:08:03,239 --> 01:08:06,719
relationship keeps going. But there's no
pressure to do anything. Yeah, and
965
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:11,360
I think a lot of people,
especially I would tell one more time on
966
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,719
the thirty fourty yearlds. Even the
fifty year olds, they want an advisor
967
01:08:14,719 --> 01:08:17,479
who isn't in their sixties or seventies, right, because at the end of
968
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,279
the day, if you're five more
years, if you've retired in twenty years,
969
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:26,479
but that means in twenty years your
advisor passes away. Well now you
970
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,880
have to find a new advisor in
the most important time of your life.
971
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,439
Well exactly. And that's why we
love what we got going on here is
972
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,000
a team aspect because like my dad
was saying earlier, it's a team.
973
01:08:34,159 --> 01:08:38,560
We grew up playing team sports,
We coach team sports. We're all about
974
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,720
team sports because it brails the camaraderie
and the relationships rather than being an individual
975
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,279
and selfish. It builds a selfless
atmosphere and we all just work together for
976
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:49,319
one ultimate goal, which is to
help the client. And the way we
977
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:55,479
can do that with this and the
idea of the experience my dad has with
978
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,399
forty plus years in the business,
Dave Surewood has forty plus years in the
979
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,359
business. They are teaching us,
taking us under the wing who are in
980
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:03,960
our twenties, to teach us all
the knowledge that they have so they make
981
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:09,000
the ultimate decisions obviously with trading,
with investing stuff like that, because they
982
01:09:09,039 --> 01:09:13,920
have the more experience. But they're
showing us the way to build investment portfolios,
983
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:16,039
work with clients, build a relationship, give us all the knowledge that
984
01:09:16,039 --> 01:09:20,079
they've had for the last forty years. It's a really great atmosphere because we're
985
01:09:20,119 --> 01:09:25,399
gonna be here for another forty years. Right. They're obviously not they're older,
986
01:09:25,399 --> 01:09:27,600
they're in their sixties and seventies,
and that's what we're talking about.
987
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,720
But the idea of having them mentor
us is what a lot of clients have
988
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,680
actually liked, right, because it
means that Greenberg Financial is going to be
989
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:39,680
around for a long time exactly.
You know, where we continue to learn.
990
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:45,000
We're actually going to be taking an
entire course on real in depth course
991
01:09:45,239 --> 01:09:49,239
on federal employees. So we're gonna
we're gonna be as close to experts as
992
01:09:49,239 --> 01:09:54,479
we can call ourselves on the because
if you're a federal employee, you know
993
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,319
that your retirement a lot of complex
then and we know a lot don't get
994
01:09:58,399 --> 01:10:00,880
us wrong, but we want to
go that extra step. I want to
995
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,600
continue to learn because there's a lot
of intricacies to the Federal Retirement Right,
996
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:10,439
Fagley FVHB, their long term care
options, their TSP is probably the most
997
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,600
simple part, but it's the most
talked about part. Exactly switching subjects.
998
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:15,560
I bought a house this week,
Dyling, you did, I know,
999
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,800
congrats, thank you man finding back
to full time, Yeah, I got
1000
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,840
guess full time for sure now selling
the house up in Tempe, and I
1001
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,239
wanted to touch on it just a
little bit because of the fact that I
1002
01:10:26,319 --> 01:10:29,319
feel like what I went through is
probably what a lot of home built homeowners
1003
01:10:29,399 --> 01:10:31,159
up in Phoenix are going through,
and a lot of the hot pockets that
1004
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:35,359
we saw in the real real estate
bubble that was twenty twenty and twenty one.
1005
01:10:36,319 --> 01:10:40,840
Obviously, Phoenix was one of the
biggest Austin, Texas, Florida's cities.
1006
01:10:42,239 --> 01:10:45,199
When I tried to rent my house, it's it was on the market
1007
01:10:45,239 --> 01:10:48,640
for thirty one days, Dyaling,
zero showings, and that's the rent in
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01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,960
Tempe, Tempe, I mean.
And it's a beautiful house. Four bad,
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01:10:53,239 --> 01:10:57,039
two bad that is older. It's
a perfect like college house campus.
1010
01:10:57,159 --> 01:11:02,000
It's five minutes from a campus.
It's it's completely repainted and everything was done
1011
01:11:02,319 --> 01:11:08,119
and I had only six leads in
zero showings in thirty one days. Yep.
1012
01:11:08,399 --> 01:11:10,399
And then I started, okay,
well, I need to analyze what
1013
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:14,159
am I doing wrong. I looked
at the overall map and guess what littered
1014
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:15,880
covered in rentals? So I said, okay, well, the supply and
1015
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,079
demands is pretty obvious. There's a
whole bunch of supply of rentals, not
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01:11:19,199 --> 01:11:23,680
only a limited amount, limited number
of demand. But then on the other
1017
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,159
side, you have a whole bunch
of demand for existing home sales, but
1018
01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:30,479
there's no inventory. We've continued to
say this existing home sales was down for
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01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,920
another month below expectations. So a
lot of people eventually, if they can't
1020
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,920
make that long term rental, what
are they gonna do for sale? Just
1021
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,520
like I'm doing right now. So
I think keep an eye out for that.
1022
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,520
Obviously, we've already talked about Canada's
real estate problems, We've talked about
1023
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,520
China's real estate problems. I'm not
saying there's a bubble forming, but there
1024
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,920
is definitely some concerns to keep an
eye out. Well, it's with the
1025
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:55,119
airbnb market because of I mean this
happening in Austin, Texas too, there's
1026
01:11:55,119 --> 01:11:59,439
still three hundred houses for sale,
twelve thousand Airbnb's of for rent. Yeah,
1027
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,159
short term. I'm switching a long
term and that's causing a real issue
1028
01:12:02,199 --> 01:12:05,520
in the markets. All right,
So we're coming up on another break.
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We appreciate everyone tuning in. We
got two more segments segments on this Sunday
1030
01:12:11,199 --> 01:12:13,840
morning. Thank you for joining us. We'll be right back. This is
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01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:20,399
the Money Matter Show, but it
wouldn't welcome back. You're listening to the
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01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:24,560
Money Matter Show. We got two
more segments on this great Sunday morning.
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01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,560
How's it going, Todd, It's
been good. You bought that house,
1034
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,000
like we talked about last segment.
That's pretty cool. Yeah, I mean
1035
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,279
not built, it's it's still your
house, your house. Those new bills
1036
01:12:34,279 --> 01:12:38,079
are fun. Well, you know
with the new home sales, you know
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01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:42,560
they be expectations for another month and
new home sales continues to be on an
1038
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,479
upward trend, and it's largely because
those national home builders are giving offers to
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01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,640
buy down raids or go towards closing
costs. They're doing that, and they
1040
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:55,680
also are it's from from the last
couple of years. They just built so
1041
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,319
many new homes that all of a
sudden couldn't be sold. People either didn't
1042
01:12:59,359 --> 01:13:01,600
qualify anymore because of the higher rates, or they just got out because it's
1043
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,680
going to be too expensive because of
the higher rates. So all of a
1044
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,319
sudden, they have this huge inventory
and new homes that were built and just
1045
01:13:06,359 --> 01:13:09,680
sitting there. So those are getting
sold now too, because that's all that
1046
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,800
inventory is. It's hard to find
a home that was already had built for
1047
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,279
existing homes. No, you're exactly
right, actually, because the home builder
1048
01:13:15,319 --> 01:13:18,640
backlogs are shrinking, and it's actually
one of the major charts I was looking
1049
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:25,279
at this week largely because if you're
someone trying to buy a home, there's
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01:13:25,319 --> 01:13:27,800
not a lot of existing options,
and if there are, you're gonna get
1051
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,319
a high interest rate. Why not
go to the new home sale. You
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01:13:30,359 --> 01:13:31,800
might pay a little more, but
in aggregate, you're going to be paying
1053
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,079
a less because you have a lower
rate on your payments. So definitely seeing
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01:13:35,079 --> 01:13:40,560
that those National home bowers look at
the stocks right dr Horn KB Home,
1055
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,800
They've had a great year so far
and they continue to do so. The
1056
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,399
one thing that pointed out to me
is the Atlanta Fed. They have a
1057
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:53,399
GDP now forecast it's really just a
model that they estimate quarterly GDP growth for
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01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:58,399
quarter three. Right now, they're
projecting five point nine percent as of August
1059
01:13:58,399 --> 01:14:03,279
sixteenth. That is huge GDP number
for a quarter. That is not what
1060
01:14:03,319 --> 01:14:08,359
the FED wants to see. However, then what I saw on Tuesday,
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01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:15,359
we saw the preliminary PMI reports that
is for manufacturing and services sector in the
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01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,279
US economy, and they were down
big, And I was very surprised to
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01:14:18,319 --> 01:14:23,159
see that, because when you see
Atlanta FED GDP of five point eight percent
1064
01:14:23,399 --> 01:14:27,279
and then a pm I that's lower
expectation, is showing that the manufacturing services
1065
01:14:27,319 --> 01:14:31,079
sector they don't have a lot of
good expectations for what's to come in the
1066
01:14:31,079 --> 01:14:36,800
next couple of months. They feel
worse as as a service producer or a
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01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:41,159
manufacturing producer. So at the end
of the day, what's going to end
1068
01:14:41,239 --> 01:14:45,159
up holding true is going to be
the thing that really decides what FED what
1069
01:14:45,199 --> 01:14:46,960
FED pal is going to say.
Obviously he already said wage growth is more
1070
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:51,279
important to him, but if the
economy is running hot, you really have
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01:14:51,319 --> 01:14:55,560
to keep raising rates. Yeah,
and that's why he said he's not afraid
1072
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,880
to keep raising rates. And he
didn't even mention rate cuts. Right,
1073
01:14:59,359 --> 01:15:01,840
So obviously this week in the video
was the big news. It was yeah,
1074
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,479
I mean, and video is big
news. But we had other ones
1075
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:09,159
and one one thing that kind of
stuck out on Friday was Instacart filed for
1076
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:14,399
their IPO, which is gonna break
a freeze on tech companies doing an initial
1077
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,920
public offerings. For the last significant
one was December of twenty one, so
1078
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,680
that's been almost two years. Wow. And we saw a bunch in twenty
1079
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:26,039
twenty and twenty twenty twenty one was
Snowflake. The last one could have been
1080
01:15:26,199 --> 01:15:28,479
Yeah, I think so. If
it was, yeah, I don't remember
1081
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,039
exactly which one, but it was
one of them. It was in twenty
1082
01:15:30,119 --> 01:15:33,239
twenty one. But I mean,
there was a ton between twenty twenty and
1083
01:15:33,279 --> 01:15:38,520
twenty twenty one. All these tech
companies they were going public through spects and
1084
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,640
now, and then all of a
sudden, it was a freeze because all
1085
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,479
that spack when he went away,
all the first time investors that were so
1086
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,439
happy to buy stuff, and it's
just every IPO that went through would just
1087
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,039
double within the first couple of days
and then it would come back to reality.
1088
01:15:51,119 --> 01:15:55,960
But now all those companies are really
at reality and their valuations are back
1089
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,279
where they are and those stocks that
were worth one hundred dollars at one point
1090
01:15:58,359 --> 01:16:01,039
or not like seven. Instacarton name
it is, I mean, it holds
1091
01:16:01,079 --> 01:16:04,119
up to its name. It's a
grocery. It's like doordask for groceries,
1092
01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:09,199
and it's been the company since twenty
twelve. They've gotten hurt as the economy
1093
01:16:09,279 --> 01:16:13,439
slowed down and other competitors have got
into the business like DoorDash and Uber Eats
1094
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:17,119
and all and Walmart. But they're
still still showing profit for the last five
1095
01:16:17,199 --> 01:16:20,960
quarters, so we'll see. Yeah. I mean, obviously we know Walmart
1096
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:25,640
has their own version of that where
they do kind of a drop off at
1097
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,079
the right outside their store, but
instant cart goes all the way to your
1098
01:16:29,079 --> 01:16:30,760
home. I mean, I use
doordask for that, you do door to
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01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,760
ask groceries. Yeah, obviously there
are a stock as well, and we
1100
01:16:34,079 --> 01:16:40,800
kind of maybe that's a good picture
as of what instat Car's valuation will look
1101
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,520
like. Yeah, and DoorDash was
one of those ones that went out of
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01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,640
roughly twenty twenty and it just immediately
doubled and now it's kind of back to
1103
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:53,720
earth. That's an interesting play right
there. Chip maker Marvel Technology delivered quarterly
1104
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:58,720
guidance in line with Wall Streets expectations. Obviously, they're on the chip side,
1105
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:03,119
so their strength and artificial intelligence application
is offset by the continued weakness however
1106
01:17:03,359 --> 01:17:09,279
in some of its legacy business like
storage. Obviously, we know the technologies
1107
01:17:09,319 --> 01:17:15,000
of ever changing landscape. So kind
of what how Intel lost its favor in
1108
01:17:15,039 --> 01:17:17,439
the market is not being able to
continue to find new products, the most
1109
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:23,880
used and updated products, right.
I mean I feel like you have you
1110
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:28,640
know, storage as in hardware,
and then you have aws and different digital
1111
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,479
storages like I Cloud and things like
that. So things always change in the
1112
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:36,600
technology landscape. You got to continue
to be you have to continue to evolve.
1113
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:41,680
And that's why Davidea is you know, they have the most evolved product,
1114
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:45,319
Yeah, exactly, and they're still
and they're they're really good at doing
1115
01:17:45,359 --> 01:17:47,760
that. Yeah, the most innovative
chips coming out and keep coming out.
1116
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,199
They're not just happy with where they
are right now. Right. Google is
1117
01:17:51,239 --> 01:17:56,159
interesting. They're coming out with a
conference next week talking about some of their
1118
01:17:56,199 --> 01:18:00,680
AI capabilities that they're bared, which
is their version of chat GBT can do.
1119
01:18:01,079 --> 01:18:05,079
Yeah, and also they're just and
they're continuing to expand their storage facilities.
1120
01:18:05,119 --> 01:18:09,039
Are spending one point two billion dollars
this year so far on new storage
1121
01:18:09,039 --> 01:18:13,720
facilities. That there of everything,
right, they're continuing to expand. Nike
1122
01:18:14,239 --> 01:18:15,680
ahead. Now I was gonna say, yeah, Nike has been an interesting
1123
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,199
stock. It's down twenty five percent
from it's fifty two week high of one
1124
01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:21,079
hundred and thirty one dollars a share. Yea. And part of the reason
1125
01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:24,680
is because, I mean, it's
huge in China, and China's economy is
1126
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:29,159
just slowing down. Its consumer sentiment
is down, It's retail sales dropped.
1127
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:33,239
It only grew or slowed to two
point five percent in July, and I
1128
01:18:33,279 --> 01:18:36,399
thought I was gonna be four percent, so it's almost in half. And
1129
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:42,279
the part of this reason is that
China is also experiencing deflation, which is
1130
01:18:42,319 --> 01:18:45,279
good for the consumer but bad for
companies because now consumers are saying, oh,
1131
01:18:45,279 --> 01:18:50,840
okay, the one is it's getting
weaker, so we're just gonna wait
1132
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:54,000
longer. We don't need to buy
Nike shoes, we don't need to buy
1133
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,640
the new sweatshirt. We'll wait until
prices drop even more and just keep waiting
1134
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,920
and waiting, and that hurts Nike, right, I Mean, deflation sounds
1135
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,560
good for the consumer, but that
means the currency that they're getting from the
1136
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,600
consumers less valuable, which means they
have to pay more for their products and
1137
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:12,720
services. So it's not good for
the Chinese companies to have deflation. But
1138
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:18,760
obviously as you continue to have Nike
go into the what is it, back
1139
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,239
to school season, right, I
mean I feel like that is something that
1140
01:19:21,239 --> 01:19:26,359
maybe the market's overlooking where. I
mean, if I'm buying Nike products anywhere
1141
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:30,720
under eighteen, it's normally going to
happen between July August area, right before
1142
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,319
I go to school. Analysts we're
saying, another issue, though, is
1143
01:19:33,359 --> 01:19:38,760
their lack of innovation with their products. They've got into complacent with what they
1144
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,680
sell, But how innovative can you
be with a product? That's part of
1145
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,239
the problem, is what they're saying. Yeah, they just they're running out
1146
01:19:44,239 --> 01:19:47,439
of ways right now to be innovative. Yeah, and I you know,
1147
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:53,319
I guess their only way to really
improve margins is to keep selling those incredibly
1148
01:19:53,319 --> 01:19:56,880
overpriced Jordan's and the shoes that all
those collects. Jordan was the only brand
1149
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,079
part of Nike. That helps straight
right throughout that co and throughout this downturn.
1150
01:20:00,119 --> 01:20:02,720
I mean they had nine or ten
days down in a row, but
1151
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:06,159
there Jordan Brand has been showing no
signs of slowing down. Nike is still
1152
01:20:06,159 --> 01:20:11,199
a quality name and there is it
does get to a point where its valuation
1153
01:20:11,399 --> 01:20:15,319
is where it should be. And
that's when you know, you can't continue
1154
01:20:15,319 --> 01:20:16,560
to be scared of a big name
like that, because then you look back
1155
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,520
and then you know, why why
didn't I get in here? Yeah,
1156
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:25,319
and I feel like it's not so
much Nike as a company in a sense.
1157
01:20:25,359 --> 01:20:28,199
It is with innovation and all,
but it's more China. Yeah,
1158
01:20:28,319 --> 01:20:30,920
it has to do a lot with
China's economy. And that's why Starbucks has
1159
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,680
been down to yep, Starbucks continues
to not really come out of its little
1160
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:39,239
And you know, another one that
is about my mind is Disney. It
1161
01:20:39,399 --> 01:20:44,319
continues to just kind of trade sideways, trade lower a little bit. And
1162
01:20:44,399 --> 01:20:46,880
that's another stock that's gonna have a
lot of interesting things come about in the
1163
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:53,600
next couple of months because more ESPN
sponsorships, partnership, Sorry, it could
1164
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:58,039
be on the way club holding.
Amazon is reportedly in talks with the with
1165
01:20:58,079 --> 01:21:01,960
Disney about developing an es be in
streaming service. According to the information,
1166
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:08,359
Disney currently owns eighty percent of the
Sports network, so they do. And
1167
01:21:08,399 --> 01:21:10,760
what's happening now though, is that
there's a lot of talk. It hasn't
1168
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,760
been confirmed, but there's a lot
of talk that Apple will buy ESPN.
1169
01:21:14,399 --> 01:21:16,159
I've heard that too, but I
was looking up articles and stuff, and
1170
01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:19,199
there's just hall speculations saying why would
be smart for Apple to buy it?
1171
01:21:19,279 --> 01:21:23,840
Not that Apple's actually interesting. Okay, yeah, I mean it would make
1172
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,119
sense for Apple or Amazon to do
it, as they both have Apple TV,
1173
01:21:27,239 --> 01:21:30,239
they have Amazon TV. I mean, Disney has their own streaming service
1174
01:21:30,279 --> 01:21:33,319
too, but I guess it doesn't
work as well. I mean, ESPN
1175
01:21:33,319 --> 01:21:36,840
itself is already a streaming service,
so I don't I guess exactly understand what
1176
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:41,039
they mean by developing. They're gonna
another one, but maybe add it to
1177
01:21:41,079 --> 01:21:44,880
another, gonna add No, it's
gonna be ESPN plus from my understanding,
1178
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:46,800
but they're just gonna add to it. It's gonna have more games, more
1179
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:51,600
availability and stuff like that. And
like they did, you add ESPN gambling.
1180
01:21:53,119 --> 01:21:56,039
I forgot the name of it,
but they just partnered pen Pen National
1181
01:21:56,319 --> 01:22:00,640
Gaming. That is a very interesting
thing there where you know, there's there's
1182
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:05,479
these new business I mean, and
Disney's attraction business continues to do good.
1183
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:11,199
They are going to save money this
year because of the strikes, They're not
1184
01:22:11,279 --> 01:22:14,520
producing as much, so costs are
going to go down. There are things
1185
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,600
that line up to look good for
Disney, but I think you need some
1186
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,800
big event to make that rally start. Yeah, and at the end of
1187
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:25,000
the day, ESPN is a big
cash cow with all the sports and everything.
1188
01:22:25,079 --> 01:22:29,199
But that's why they're trying to make
a streamline with the streaming service because
1189
01:22:29,279 --> 01:22:31,000
cable is going away. That's also
part of the reason. But also if
1190
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,319
they did decide to sell it,
this would be like the fifth time ESPN
1191
01:22:33,359 --> 01:22:35,920
has been sold to another company.
If they sold it to, say,
1192
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:41,880
to Apple, they give about fifty
billion dollars, so they could that's might
1193
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,920
be ways why on other analysts are
looking at its saying it might be a
1194
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,079
smart move. They get a big
cash and Apple has the biggest cash pile.
1195
01:22:47,279 --> 01:22:51,319
Another thing that's connected to Disney is
Apple, I mean Comcast, because
1196
01:22:51,319 --> 01:22:57,319
Comcast owns Hulu and Disney's already under
contract to buy the remaining And yeah,
1197
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,720
currently Disney on eighty percent, and
they're going to have the next twenty so
1198
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:02,359
they one hundred percent. So that's
also why it makes more sense that Disney's
1199
01:23:02,399 --> 01:23:06,680
keeping ESPN and making Hulu and ESPN
probably one thing. Yeah, and I
1200
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:12,159
didn't realize Disney plus how much Comcast
has another businesses other than legacy Cable,
1201
01:23:12,279 --> 01:23:15,840
right, I mean they have Exfinity, they have They're gonna sell Hulu,
1202
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,920
which is another big generation of cash
for them. They have a lot of
1203
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:24,199
different lines of businesses where Comcast is
not really I think a lot of people
1204
01:23:24,199 --> 01:23:27,000
think Comcasts are like, oh,
Legacy Cable, that's going away. It's
1205
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,560
a smart ceo. But if they've
had a good they've had a good year
1206
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,840
so far. Wrap it back up
with Google obviously, streaming service, YouTube,
1207
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:39,600
TV, NFL ticket that's gonna be
real big. See. I mean
1208
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,479
you're not gonna see it on the
next You're probably not gonna maybe on the
1209
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,279
next quarter report. Uh yeah,
But I mean, really, what's gonna
1210
01:23:45,279 --> 01:23:46,920
happen maybe a quarter four really where
you're gonna it's gonna be the numbers.
1211
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:51,159
But also what's gonna happen is it
doesn't go smoothly. Amazon prid took over
1212
01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:54,800
Thursday Night Football last year and there's
issues with it. Yeah, and it
1213
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,199
wasn't good for the company because people
were pissed off that it was either not
1214
01:23:58,239 --> 01:24:03,800
working it was just slow pixelated.
So if if YouTube has issues with this,
1215
01:24:04,399 --> 01:24:08,840
then that's gonna hurt the company.
But that is that's more of a
1216
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:12,800
short term issue, right, It's
gonna be It's it's very crucial to see
1217
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:16,600
how much potential growth could be in
the nfls on a ticket or YouTube TV
1218
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,920
that leads to Google's profit. Of
the biggest number will be how many new
1219
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:26,039
subscribers to YouTube tv are there,
because like showing going into which you'll know
1220
01:24:26,199 --> 01:24:29,439
it's going to be around that when
NFL starts, and that's it's gonna be
1221
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,239
probably gonna be on the fourth quarter
report, which they're going to expect the
1222
01:24:31,279 --> 01:24:33,359
big boost because a lot of people
are gonna buy it. Also with red
1223
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,560
Zone. Also with that, we're
coming up to a hard break. So
1224
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:40,479
we will be back for our last
segment. You listen to the Money Amoutter
1225
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:43,239
Show. I'm Dylan Greenberg. I'm
here with Toddlick and Dean Greenberg, and
1226
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:51,199
we'll be back but it wouldn't welcome
back everybody. We got a last segment
1227
01:24:51,239 --> 01:24:58,720
of the Money Matter Show, Yes
we do. Now the two year ten
1228
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,640
year inversion, it actually narrowed a
little bit, so we still have an
1229
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,079
inversion, which is I mean at
this point in I mean, how long
1230
01:25:06,079 --> 01:25:11,199
has this been inverted? I mean
it's almost It takes time, you know,
1231
01:25:11,279 --> 01:25:15,119
sometimes it's it's sixteen months after,
eighteen months later. But the funny
1232
01:25:15,119 --> 01:25:18,279
part about that inversion is supposed to
be, you have a recession in five
1233
01:25:18,359 --> 01:25:21,079
years from now. If we have
a recession next year, everyone's going to
1234
01:25:21,159 --> 01:25:24,279
say, you see, that's when
it happened. You know what I mean,
1235
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,079
once it starts happening, happened,
It just doesn't happen right away.
1236
01:25:27,119 --> 01:25:31,439
And that is why we didn't get
totally bullish bullish, But that's why we
1237
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:35,279
didn't get totally barish. The bottom
line is, and you guys know it,
1238
01:25:35,399 --> 01:25:40,000
I'm looking for something out of the
federalis or to switch policies to the
1239
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:44,680
point that it gives me a signal
that says we're very vulnerable to a crash.
1240
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,159
And I haven't gotten that yet.
Yeah, and you know, really
1241
01:25:47,239 --> 01:25:53,000
since right around April the ten year
yield has continued to increase, which is
1242
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:57,479
kind of where we saw some of
the peaks in the market. You know,
1243
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,279
at the end of the day,
when interest rates increase, us to
1244
01:26:00,359 --> 01:26:02,680
the ten year, that is what
is used for the calculation of these growth
1245
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,760
stocks. The ten year is getting
closer and closer to the four and a
1246
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,720
half five percent level. Yes,
it's going to be hard not to put
1247
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,399
some money into that the people looking
for income if it gets to five percent,
1248
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,680
because now you're locking it in at
five percent for ten years and not
1249
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,079
two years or three years. I
mean, at this point, Dean,
1250
01:26:18,159 --> 01:26:23,760
the thirty year is only point zero
one lower than the ten year. Yeah,
1251
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:28,119
I mean I'm getting four points.
I wouldn't go thirty years, I
1252
01:26:29,359 --> 01:26:32,800
get it now. Insuance companies are
the way the pricing stuff that is,
1253
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:39,640
but not us. We are seeing
this bear steepening in the curve right now.
1254
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:45,000
We're seeing the longer come up and
then the shorter term kind of just
1255
01:26:45,039 --> 01:26:48,239
stay where it's at because obviously the
Fed controls the short end, the market
1256
01:26:48,279 --> 01:26:53,000
controls the long end. But then
on Friday we saw all the short end
1257
01:26:53,079 --> 01:26:57,239
increase the long end do the reverse. So we may maybe we see the
1258
01:26:57,279 --> 01:27:00,319
peaks. Who knows the way?
I don't. We don't really trade bond.
1259
01:27:00,359 --> 01:27:01,600
What we do is we look for
the income to put in to fit
1260
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:09,079
into our allocations of what is the
necessary needs for the clients. What beautiful
1261
01:27:09,119 --> 01:27:14,880
now is short term money money marketing
get over five percent? Two year paper
1262
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,520
you can get five percent, You
go out a little bit. The only
1263
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,199
reason you go out a little bit
is for what reason? Is to be
1264
01:27:19,239 --> 01:27:23,359
able to lock that money up a
little longer at a price that we think
1265
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:28,319
is a good income right now.
Now, if everything goes bad, history
1266
01:27:28,359 --> 01:27:31,119
repeats itself. You did not live
through the period of time when money markets
1267
01:27:31,119 --> 01:27:34,720
were twenty percent. Now I'm not
saying that's where we're going, all right,
1268
01:27:35,159 --> 01:27:41,960
but a fifteen year government thirty year
bond was so hard to sell because
1269
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,520
short term paper was paying twenty percent. Think about that. Iniscibles triple a
1270
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:55,439
weighted innscibles tax free for fifteen years. We're paying your like ten percent twelve
1271
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:59,880
percent? Is that crazy? You
think you can't get back to double ditch.
1272
01:28:00,359 --> 01:28:03,439
I never say never on anything.
Yeah, that's why you mitigate risk,
1273
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,720
That's why you allocate. That's why
when you have certain things, because
1274
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:13,880
we deal with individuals. We're not
dealing with insurance companies and institutions that always
1275
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,279
have new money coming in constantly from
the business they do well. The most
1276
01:28:17,279 --> 01:28:19,880
money is in the bond market,
right, I mean, all the money's
1277
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:23,119
in the bond market. So we
use the bond market kind of give us
1278
01:28:23,159 --> 01:28:26,800
a picture of what the stock market
could look like going down the road.
1279
01:28:27,159 --> 01:28:30,520
So obviously, take advantage of these
high interest rate environments. We've talked about
1280
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:34,359
the MEGA multiple times on this show. You can lock in right now five
1281
01:28:34,359 --> 01:28:39,039
point three percent for five years,
compound and guaranteed. Right take your arm.
1282
01:28:40,079 --> 01:28:43,960
Remember government bonds still you don't have
to pay state tax, right Okay.
1283
01:28:44,239 --> 01:28:46,760
So the only reason I bring that
up is you compare them the CDs.
1284
01:28:47,039 --> 01:28:50,239
You know on everyone's mind, CDC
dcds, But the CDs you're still
1285
01:28:50,239 --> 01:28:55,399
paying taxes. So if you product
to product the US government bond, it's
1286
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:59,960
not only safer, but it also
gives you the opportunity to not pay taxes
1287
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:05,600
on the state. I totally agree. Obviously, this week, the equal
1288
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:11,319
weighted was a little below the SMP
five hundred. It was down point two
1289
01:29:11,359 --> 01:29:14,239
percent on the week. The SMP
was up point eight percent on the week
1290
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,319
showing that the big names led the
way this week doing yeah, and I
1291
01:29:18,319 --> 01:29:21,960
mean the big names have been leading
the way really, but it was a
1292
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,760
little more even which it has been
the last few weeks. I mean last
1293
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:29,239
week two weeks ago, the SMP
five hundred was about in line with RSP,
1294
01:29:29,399 --> 01:29:31,800
which is the equal weighted So I
mean the big one I think was
1295
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:38,479
in video. Microsoft had a pretty
good week too, So the Magnificent sevens
1296
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:42,800
still tend to be leading the charge
regardless of which way very much. So.
1297
01:29:44,079 --> 01:29:48,279
Obviously, as we continue to go
into September, the seasonality is going
1298
01:29:48,319 --> 01:29:51,039
to start to play a role.
It is, but I want to we
1299
01:29:51,159 --> 01:29:56,680
talked about mitigating whisk and the reason
we want to mitigate risk is when we're
1300
01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:00,840
looking at the fact of valuations.
And we started getting concerned last year with
1301
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:06,359
valuations. Okay, PE price earnings
race shows what do you think we are
1302
01:30:06,399 --> 01:30:12,800
at right now? A price earnings
ray show we're about sixty's twenty five right
1303
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:16,319
now? Okay, it's about twenty
five times right On the average, an
1304
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:25,239
average price earnings ratio is sixteen when
it gets I've seen it at twelve to
1305
01:30:25,279 --> 01:30:29,800
fourteen, okay, but sixteen seventeen
that area. You know, it's kind
1306
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,319
of value pretty well. For us
to get there right now, we got
1307
01:30:32,319 --> 01:30:35,680
to come down to just under three
thousand on the SMP. That's a big
1308
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:40,159
drop. That's all the thirty some
moont percent, And that is why I
1309
01:30:40,319 --> 01:30:45,439
constantly keep patients until something changes.
Right now doesn't mean it has to come
1310
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,279
down there. Earnings can grow,
that's the other way. So if earnings
1311
01:30:48,319 --> 01:30:53,640
grow, the price earnings ratio will
come down also. But in this market
1312
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:57,720
with high interest rates and everything going
on, I don't see that happening.
1313
01:30:58,199 --> 01:31:00,399
If I see that changing, I'll
get bullish. But in the meantime,
1314
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:05,439
mitigating risk doesn't mean you go to
cash. Mitigating risk doesn't mean you don't
1315
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:11,680
mitigating risks. I'll still allows you
to participate if the markets go up at
1316
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:15,239
a lower rate, but it also
protects you if the markets fall down.
1317
01:31:15,279 --> 01:31:16,760
And that's allocation too. Yeah,
when we learned the last couple of years,
1318
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,359
that's a big thing that we do
differently than a lot of money managers.
1319
01:31:19,359 --> 01:31:23,640
We don't just sit there and tell
you to wait it out because it'll
1320
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,720
come back. We try and do
what we can to actively mitigate as we
1321
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,199
can. You know, and by
doing that we can do inverse funds and
1322
01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:34,560
different things like that. Sell calls, sell calls, inverse funds, and
1323
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:40,039
was talking about that like a Navidia
part of my position. Okay, they
1324
01:31:40,079 --> 01:31:43,840
had a Navidio my position. I
had a bunch of Navidia. I sold
1325
01:31:44,119 --> 01:31:48,159
calls the day that they were reporting
earnings. Then when they came out,
1326
01:31:48,199 --> 01:31:50,319
I oh, man, I wish
I didn't write those calls, right,
1327
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:55,159
Not the fault desition, just part
of the position. I got thirty five
1328
01:31:55,199 --> 01:31:59,279
dollars when the stock was at five
sixty for Septembers that was one month out.
1329
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,119
That means five ten if when over
five ten, I couldn't get it
1330
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:10,199
now sitting here after the markets went
down, I'm happy that I sold those
1331
01:32:10,279 --> 01:32:14,319
calls. It mitigated part of my
risk. Did I still give back about
1332
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:16,279
the money, Yeah, But did
I mitigate risk? Yes? That means
1333
01:32:16,319 --> 01:32:19,680
that money I made is my profit, right. I mean, you're not
1334
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:23,239
going to be perfect, and if
you're trying to be perfect, you're probably
1335
01:32:23,279 --> 01:32:26,840
gonna make more mistakes than anyone else. One person that can be perfect that
1336
01:32:27,039 --> 01:32:29,920
g O D. Yeah. If
you're trying to be perfect, that means
1337
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:31,239
you're market timing and you're trying to
find the top, you're trying to find
1338
01:32:31,279 --> 01:32:34,159
the bottom, and that just doesn't
work. Yeah, it never does.
1339
01:32:34,199 --> 01:32:39,239
So that's why you need to have
a plan, right, it is based
1340
01:32:39,279 --> 01:32:42,359
on your risk tolerance. How important
is it to reassess your risk tolerance?
1341
01:32:42,399 --> 01:32:45,520
Right here? Dean all the time, all the time. But the thing
1342
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:51,159
that I fear is people reassess their
risk tolerance is whether the markets sound higher.
1343
01:32:51,159 --> 01:32:54,720
They agreed in the fear factor,
and that has nothing to do with
1344
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:59,640
risk toleance. Tolerance needs to be
when you're when you're neutral, and if
1345
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:01,439
you're gon spend money when you need
the money out of your portfolio. The
1346
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:05,079
liquidity, it's all about liquidity and
how you look at laws. Yeah,
1347
01:33:05,079 --> 01:33:09,560
but this year you run into is
when is somebody neutral about their finances.
1348
01:33:10,119 --> 01:33:13,840
That's why sometimes other questions like okay, how fast do you drive on the
1349
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:15,279
freeway? If the speed limit sixty
five? Are you going seventy? Well
1350
01:33:15,279 --> 01:33:18,640
maybe you're a little more risky individual. Do you like skydiving? Yeah?
1351
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:21,239
Give them real life situations. It's
okay, we're been at my risk.
1352
01:33:21,359 --> 01:33:25,520
But the risk is you go over
like say it's seventy and you go seventy
1353
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,840
six. Will they get me at
seventy six? Right? Like, you're
1354
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,520
like eight your mind. Okay,
you'd be a little more aggressive than a
1355
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:34,359
balanced portfolio, but not so much. Right, you're going a hundred up
1356
01:33:34,359 --> 01:33:38,119
the phoenix. You're trying to get
as fast as possible. You're probably gonna
1357
01:33:38,119 --> 01:33:41,560
have a risk all its ninety plus. Yeah, growth, but if you
1358
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,159
got a ticket, then you fear
it. You're never going seventy six.
1359
01:33:44,199 --> 01:33:46,000
So guess when you got to mitigate
it? Right? Exactly? So you
1360
01:33:46,079 --> 01:33:53,000
mitigate risk by going seventy three six
over? Isn't that the rule? I
1361
01:33:53,039 --> 01:33:55,560
say, I've heard this from a
cop before. They said seven, you're
1362
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:59,199
fine. Eight your mind. Interesting. I don't want to play the game,
1363
01:33:59,279 --> 01:34:01,199
but yeah, i'd normally try to
go five. Well, there's not
1364
01:34:01,279 --> 01:34:05,439
a lot of information economic news coming
out next week. We had it this
1365
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:11,319
past week. So the markets can
you know, with a light volume people
1366
01:34:11,359 --> 01:34:15,880
on vacation going and going into labor
day, markets can creep up. But
1367
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,159
be careful, don't get sucked into
this thing. It can go back to
1368
01:34:18,279 --> 01:34:24,800
that forty five forty five fifty level
and then we come into September. Be
1369
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:28,800
careful what you're doing all right,
allocate. But you know what, if
1370
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:32,159
you haven't had a financial plan,
I mean a real financial plan that takes
1371
01:34:32,159 --> 01:34:35,239
some time, you gotta put some
time and effort into it. Give us
1372
01:34:35,239 --> 01:34:38,680
a call. I mean, we'll
sit down, we'll go over the plan.
1373
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,760
It's a three step process. You
know. You gotta get you gather
1374
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,159
your information, you gotta give it
to the information. We gotta put it
1375
01:34:44,199 --> 01:34:45,000
in. You gotta sit with it. We've got to talk about it,
1376
01:34:45,159 --> 01:34:49,079
and then we come up with a
plan for you, and then you execute
1377
01:34:49,119 --> 01:34:51,560
the plan. Whether you do it
through us or through somebody else, that's
1378
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:55,199
up to you. Obviously we want
you to do it through us, but
1379
01:34:55,319 --> 01:34:58,520
that's you know, it's up to
you if you think it's a good plan.
1380
01:34:59,279 --> 01:35:00,279
If you don't think it's a good
plan, and go to someplace else.
1381
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:04,359
But if it's a good plan,
unless you're doing it yourself. I
1382
01:35:04,399 --> 01:35:08,359
hate when somebody goes someplace else and
said, all, yeah, I like
1383
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:11,880
that plan, I'll do that for
you. Yeah, but we will give
1384
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:15,000
you the plan. We're not We're
not like bait and switch. We're not
1385
01:35:15,119 --> 01:35:16,680
like, okay, yeah we told
you we did the plan for you.
1386
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:19,239
We said that was free. We
went over it. We'll let you see
1387
01:35:19,239 --> 01:35:21,640
it. But unless you do business, we're not giving it to you.
1388
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:25,640
Nope, we'll give it to you
whether you do business or not. Right
1389
01:35:26,239 --> 01:35:29,279
there's always a time to buy,
there's a time to sell. Sometimes it's
1390
01:35:29,319 --> 01:35:31,000
just a time to go fishing and
be patient, which is maybe where we're
1391
01:35:31,039 --> 01:35:34,279
at right now. And while you
go fishing, build that financial plan if
1392
01:35:34,359 --> 01:35:38,359
you if you're fifty fifty right now, it's a very good balance and if
1393
01:35:38,359 --> 01:35:41,039
you have a headge on, you
might be forty when the things too high.
1394
01:35:41,159 --> 01:35:44,039
You've got some income coming in,
You've got some stuff. Don't expect
1395
01:35:44,039 --> 01:35:45,920
the world coming down because we don't
have a huge market increase. We had
1396
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:51,079
that already this year. But protect
yourself from the other side. And you
1397
01:35:51,119 --> 01:35:56,840
know what, we got Memorial Memorial
Labor Day coming up. We got a
1398
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:00,560
week. Hopefully we'll keep moving in
the right way. Should If not,
1399
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:02,600
it can happen on the other side
too. Liquidity can force you the other
1400
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:04,399
way. I'm not gonna be it
for the next two weeks, Steen,
1401
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:09,079
So you're gonna hold on the show
without me. I think I can handle
1402
01:36:09,079 --> 01:36:14,680
it all right. Everybody be happy. It's extremely important for everyone to be
1403
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,319
healthy, say it's all. And
at the end of the day we all
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tried to be profitable scene. But
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me. Yes, it's all in
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wouldn't be believe if you