Dr. MaryAnn Wilbur didn’t burn out. She walked out. She left a career she trained her whole life for because the system told her to lie to patients, ignore her conscience, and run faster on a rigged treadmill that turns doctors into data entry…
Chelsea walked into my studio towering over me at six foot three. Former dancer. Working actor. Thyroid cancer survivor who got radioactive iodine at 19 while everyone told her she was lucky. "You got the good one." Bull. Shit. She didn't get therap…
Julia Stalder got diagnosed with the "best kind" of breast cancer. DCIS. Ductal carcinoma in situ. (Latin for "we don't know what the hell this is but we're cutting it off anyway.") She's a lawyer. A mediator. A mom. Her doctor dad…
When I invited Libby Amber Shayo onto *Out of Patients*, I knew exactly what I was getting: a walking, talking GenZ Jewish time capsule with a theater degree, a viral alter ego named Sheryl Cohen, and enough camp trauma to get a standalone diagnosis…
Tracy Weiss bled through her work clothes while her doctor called her dramatic. Then she built an army. That’s the kind of guest who reminds me why I’m proud to still be behind the mic after 17 years on the air. Tracy sat in that bathr…
Allison J. Applebaum, Ph.D., FAPOS grew up surrounded by symphonies, not stethoscopes. Her father, Stan Applebaum, arranged Stand By Me. (Yes. *That* Stand By Me) Her mother was a prodigy. She was supposed to live behind a piano. Instead, she became…
Rebecca V. Nellis, was never supposed to stay. She took a six-month temp gig at Cancer and Careers back in 2004 and never left. Twenty years later, she's still there. Still leading Cancer and Careers. Still fighting. Still wondering how the hell it&…
Sally Wolf is back on Out of Patients.FWIW, this episode is a masterclass in what happens when two people who should absolutely not be allowed to chaperone a middle school trip talk about the absurdity of “aging gracefully” while wonderi…
Carla Tardif has been holding the system accountable longer than most of us have been able to pronounce “social determinants.” She runs Family Reach, a nonprofit built on one premise: cancer costs money. Real money. Like lose-your-home, …
Jennifer J. Brown didn’t write a memoir to make you feel better. She wrote one because she was drowning in a system that weaponizes politeness and punishes curiosity. Harvard-trained scientist. Mother of two daughters with a rare metabolic dis…
Katie Henry once handed out 500 vibrators at my cancer conference and accidentally rewrote the national conversation on sex after breast cancer. That’s not a metaphor. That’s a Tuesday in Katie Henry world. She’s a nonprofit bruis…
There’s a reason Olivia Battinelli runs NYU Steinhardt’s internship program, teaches interviewing strategies, and has her own career coaching business by 28. It’s because the world still churns out young professionals with zero ski…
Sophie Sargent did not need my approval, my microphone, or my nostalgia. She walked in with purpose, clarity, and chronic illness receipts. A 25-year-old media force raised in the Lyme-infested hills of New Hampshire, she’s already outpaced mo…
Lexi Silver is fifteen. She has buried both of her parents. She has sat through funerals most adults will never face. She writes about grief with the precision of a scalpel and the blunt force of a sledgehammer. And she does it without apolo…
Michelle Andrews has seen behind the curtain. She helped launch Rituxan in the 90s. She watched the very first pharma commercial hit TV. She’s built campaigns, wrangled strategy decks, and sat at the big-kid table in rooms where the patient wa…
Dr. Anne Marie Morse showed up to the studio like she was headlining her own off-Broadway neurology musical—and I mean that as a compliment. She’s a pediatric neurologist, sleep medicine badass, narcolepsy whisperer, and founder of DAMM …
Gigi Robinson walked into the studio, and within 60 seconds, I felt like the out-of-touch Gen Xer trying to program a VCR again. Which, frankly, is precisely why I wanted her on the show.She's a 27-year-old content creator, public speaker, rare dise…
Vanessa Ghigliotty doesn’t care if you feel uncomfortable. She never has. She fought stage 4 colon cancer while dragging her chemo bag into the Board of Education to demand a fair shot for her dyslexic son. She survived when the experts told h…
What happens when you take a jingle-obsessed Cornell grad, funnel her through agency life, add a cancer diagnosis to the family, and drop her in the middle of America’s broken healthcare mess? You get Risa Arin. Founder and CEO of XpertPatient…
Jamie Wells doesn’t fit into your LinkedIn boxes. Physician. Educator. Policy wonk. Bioethicist. Blockchain ambassador. Director of MIT’s RSI program. And now, author of A Clinical Lens on Pediatric Engineering. She’s the unicorn&r…
Erica Campbell is not your typical nonprofit CEO. She’s a Long Island theater kid turned British Embassy diplomat turned Midwest cancer-fighting powerhouse. She runs the Pinky Swear Foundation, a national org that helps families of kids with c…
Dr. Allyson Ocean stepped into the Out of Patients studio—and let’s just say, it was worth the 20-year wait. She’s a GI oncologist, yes. But she also co-founded more cancer nonprofits than most people can name, sits on the boards …
I’ve been chasing Lisa Shufro for almost a decade to come on Out of Patients. Why? Because she sees the healthcare-industrial complex for what it is—and has the guts, brains, and receipts to call it out with elegance and precision. Lisa…
Sally Wolf is the kind of person who makes you question what it means to actually live. She’s got all the things that usually impress LinkedIn: Harvard psych degree, two Stanford grad degrees, NBCUniversal pedigree, former corporate exec turn…
