Sept. 30, 2025
Water for All: Kurt Avery's Mission to Transform Lives with Sawyer Products
Send us a text In this inspiring episode of Living the Dream with Curveball, we sit down with Kurt Avery, the founder and president of Sawyer Products, a company dedicated to innovative outdoor protection and humanitarian aid solutions. Kurt shares his remarkable journey from the corporate world to creating life-saving products, including water filtration systems and insect repellents. With a marketing background and an MBA, Kurt's vision for Sawyer Products was born out of a desire to provi...
In this inspiring episode of Living the Dream with Curveball, we sit down with Kurt Avery, the founder and president of Sawyer Products, a company dedicated to innovative outdoor protection and humanitarian aid solutions. Kurt shares his remarkable journey from the corporate world to creating life-saving products, including water filtration systems and insect repellents. With a marketing background and an MBA, Kurt's vision for Sawyer Products was born out of a desire to provide essential resources to those in need, especially in areas affected by waterborne diseases. He explains how Sawyer's unique filtration technology is transforming lives in over 80 countries, eliminating sickness and improving health outcomes for millions. Kurt also discusses the company's partnerships with various charities and their mission to deliver clean water to communities around the globe. Listeners will be inspired by the impactful stories of how Sawyer Products are making a difference and learn about the upcoming projects aimed at expanding their reach. Join us for a conversation that showcases the power of innovation and compassion in creating a better world.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Welcome to the Living the Dream podcast with Curveball. if you believe you can achieve. Welcome to the Living the Dream with Curveball podcast, a show where I interview guests that teach, motivate and inspire. Today we're going to be talking about outdoor, protection products and humanitarian aid, mostly in water filtration and insect repellents.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>As I am joined by the founder and the president of Sawyer, Products, Kurt Avery. Kurt has a marketing background and an mba and Sawyer Products is innovative and they have outdoor protection as an humanitarian aid products. And Kirk decided to launch this company because he wanted to provide life saving solutions, as I said, mostly in water filtration and insect repellent. So we're going to be talking to Kurt about everything that he's up to and going to be up to. So, Kurt, thank you so much for joining me.
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> Kurt Avery>Well, thank you for giving us the opportunity.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Why don't you start off by telling everybody a little bit about yourself?
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> Kurt Avery>Oh, I'm a little crazy, a little outside the box.
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> Kurt Avery>I'm a big God, so I do silly stuff. if we have the book out called Sawyer Think there's stories in there where, oh, for example, Gulf War One, we were making 2,000 bottles of sunscreen a week, hand filling them, and a bid came through for 200,000 a week. And, we said, yeah, we can do that. And no idea how we were going to do that, but I had a mentor that provided, the cash. And sure enough, we, we made it. And we ended up making 6 million bottles for Golf War One with a pretty spectacular formula. It didn't need to reapply it because there's no timeouts in war, but that's the kind of stuff, you know, I'm making 2,000 a day, and I agreed to M a week and agreed to make 200,000 a week, so why not? You know, what do you got to lose stuff like that? A couple of times we've done that. So, I don't have a filter.
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> Kurt Avery>I guess what we can and can't do, I think we do anything.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Absolutely.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Well, kind of tell the listeners how the vision for Sawyer Products, began. And why do you call it Sawyer Products?
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> Kurt Avery>Yeah, I had a pretty storied business career.
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> Kurt Avery>worked for some of the major brands. You would know their names if I mentioned them. And I was doing some pretty cool stuff. I thought it was pretty good. And I, one day I was outside of my president's office and watched him take credit for everything I did. Didn't even throw me a Bone. I said, okay, I see how this corporate stuff works.
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> Kurt Avery>So then I said, enough of this. I'll go ahead and start. Start Sawyer. So we did, and I had a resume. We raised some pretty good money, and we had a nice little product that would suck out the venom of a snake bite, still in Walmart today, 41 years later. and I. So I go home and I tell my wife, you know, I'm going to chuck this corporate career and sell snake bite kits. And she, said, okay, I probably should have shot me right there and got it over with. But great wife supported. We made it enough business skills to get through. So.
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> Kurt Avery>But it was. It was tough. We. We were lean for a long time. And, but I always say we were. We lost money 23 of the first 25 years until we became an overnight success. So from there we went on to insect repellents. one of our mantras is we'll only sell the absolute best technology that exists. We won't, do any me too products. So, we went from, that kit to first aid kits to sunscreens, insect repellents both on the skin and on the clothes. we are the supplier to the military of both topical. And they treat all.
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> Kurt Avery>Every military uniforms treated with permethrin.
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> Kurt Avery>We do the retreat. We actually invented it back in 83, but, you know, other people use it now, but we, we have the retreat. So we're in all the stores. You put this on your clothes and the ticks will die and the mosquitoes will leave you alone and bunch of other things. So, and then we got into water filtration because we spent a lot of time in the stores and we'd say, well, what do you need? What do you need? Well, water filtration was a huge need. And the products that were out there before we got our technology were really clunky.
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> Kurt Avery>they were heavy. They were ceramic filters or paper matrix. torturous path. So we came out with what, what was you would. Came from kidney dialysis. So these are little hollow fiber membranes, are really teeny tiny hoses with teeny tiny holes in them. Kind of like if, you know that garden hose where it just sprinkles, the water comes out through the sides of the hose. It's going the other way. And that's how they treat, kidney dialysis. So we just adapted it a little bit smaller holes and we brought it out. And sure enough, stores weren't happy at first because they were selling these other ones for 70, 80 $90 more.
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> Kurt Avery>And we said, yeah, we'll go 1995. And they go, you're crazy. You know, we make 40 bucks a piece on every one of these, and we're only gonna make 10 on yours. Why should we do yours? I said, because you're going to sell a lot more and collect a lot more ten dollar bills. And so the market quickly grew from 70,000 units a year to well over a million units a year. I mean, it was just the right solution to the product, to the, to the problem. and so we became the king of that.
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> Kurt Avery>And, then we, we have a unique one. Ours is a little better than everybody else's in, in the fact that we're the only ones that can say, any water that goes through our filter, you cannot get sick biologically from it. All the protozone cyst, you know, Artea, you know, cholera, all that stuff just can't get through the filter. And it never wears out because you just clean it. So, we're the only ones that will never wear out because we're the only ones strong enough to take a hard cleaning every day. So now you got yourself a filter that's smaller than a Coke can, you know, maybe the size of a small Red Bull. can never wears out, can't get sick, and it cost less than$20. So we, we obviously were a big hit in the marketplace, but then you sit there and you go, well, how does the world not need this thing?
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> Kurt Avery>especially the fact that it won't wear out. So we are now with 140 charities in 80 countries where places where you wouldn't believe us. North Korea and Iran and Gaza and Yemen. I mean, any place that's difficult to be will be there because everybody needs water. We're after all the hurricanes. We did 100,000 filters in Helene when it went through Carolinas. any worldwide hurricane, were there either right before or right after because everybody has to have water. and then it's transformational. We go into villages and within two weeks we wipe out the sickness.
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> Kurt Avery>Waterborne sickness is 95% of all the sickness there, and it's just gone within two weeks. we, we're in some nasty slums in Nairobi and they're closing medical clinics because there's no more customers and we save a lot of money. Don't have to burn, burn, boil your water so you're not cutting down trees or buying fossil fuels. doesn't matter where you get your water from. You take it out of the lakes and Rivers or puddles where the cows poop, we don't care. We're going to make it safe to drink. So saves them a lot of money to help hundreds of thousands of babies a year live because they, they were basically getting diarrhea and dehydrating, but now they don't. So it's pretty cool. we're, we're having a blast. that's what we do.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Well, talking about the clean, water, you know, making sure people have access to clean water.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Talk about your partnerships and your collaborations to be able to provide this clean water all around the world.
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> Kurt Avery>Yeah, we use one, hundred forty different charities. You'll know some of them. Red Cross uses a lot of our filters, Samaritan's Purse, World Vision, Compassion International, the big ones. but there's also a lot of little ones that do a lot of work too. Names you wouldn't necessarily know. But, we, we do somewhere between 2 and 5 million people a year get clean water for the first time ever. It's absolutely life changing. And now we're partnering with, Child Hope, which is a big charity, Convoy of Hope, which is another big charity, and oas, which is a government organization, organization American States. They're, they're responsible for connecting with, 37 countries in Central South America and the Caribbean. They used to use a lot of USAID money, but now obviously that's shut down, but it'll just move over to the State Department. So we're in a project now that within two years we believe everybody in Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala will have safe water. A whole country, Everybody. So that'll be a signature because we've done it. We've done it.
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> Kurt Avery>We've done five or six countries now. Biggest, one Liberia, but we've done a lot of small ones on the Ring of Fire. You know, feature Fiji and Christmas Island, Vanitu, stuff like that. But this is the first major one right, right in our backyard. And it starts literally in October. We start, we go with the schools, we put the filter in the schools. The teachers teach the kids how to use it. Then the parent comes in, they teach the parent how to use it. And, and so one filter, you know, it's less than $20. But that filter can do a whole family and extended family something. You can get a couple hundred gallons a day out of one filter if you want to. but usually they just do about 20, 20 gallons to say enough for 20 people.
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> Kurt Avery>but then we, we set up water stations at larger facilities we'll use the churches and community centers and we have a filter now that goes right on to the faucets, the taps, and every one of those filters can do 2 to 400 gallons a day. So people will be able to come there, bring their jerry cans, bring their bottles, you know, whatever, and they'll fill up and go there. So that's Honduras. We're chasing about 8 million people. the schools will do maybe a million of that, but the water stations will probably do the the other 7 million in a couple of years. And then pretty soon the whole country is healthy and we save them money. You know, the, the country's wealth will grow about 10, 15% because of all the money we save. no boiling water, we require no investment in infrastructure because it's a point of use filter. So whatever they're drinking now, we'll just make it safe. We're not going to build plants to make clean water and pipes to deliver them to the homes. We're just whatever you have, we'll make it safe. So that's kind of a big bold thing that we're at right now. We're going to start doing big countries. We just got our last technology filter in place. Just literally it's coming out in February. Be the last piece of technology we need. And it's a filter that can go on the faucets and also it can be used, you can screw them on bottles. You can just take a 2 liter bottle, screw it on there and just drink. So pretty amazing. We have we do GIS tracking, so if you, we can tell you where every filter is. we got a little code on my QR code, we got video instructions. So any smartphone, you can just tap into it and get a video instruction in any language. So if you call in for Brazil, it'll be in Portuguese. You call in from Honduras, it'll be in Spanish, you know, so, and then we have WhatsApp. So if you have any issues, you can contact us and we'll say, well, here's how you clean it. Here's, you know, here's what you're doing wrong, whatever, so really, really advanced.
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> Kurt Avery>It's more than just the filter. It's the whole system because you have to change behavior. If you don't change the behavior of the people, they, they won't, you won't have full benefits of it.
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> Kurt Avery>So, because it's more than you got to teach them to wash their hands, teach them how to take care of their fecal matter, not recycle this stuff. You know, wash your vegetables. There's bacteria everywhere. Not everything's in the water. There are other ways to get bacteria. So it's a whole thing. It's a whole lifestyle change that we teach them, and it's pretty effective. We've been out there for 15 years. Some of these filters are still up and running every day. So how do you beat that?
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>it's great.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>And speaking of that, I know when we were in the green room, you were saying that so your products gives away 90% of their product products. So. So talk about that. What you mean by that.
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> Kurt Avery>Yeah, actually, we say that because that's understandable, but we actually give away more than that because we're very unique. I. We're all dedicated to this. at the moment, I still own 100% of the company, and we're a sub S company, so that means all the profits would accrue to me, but I'm not interested in profits. I have a wonderful bank who understands. We try not to make profits. So we give away a lot of the filters. Take it right off.
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> Kurt Avery>If. If you're a business person, you know what I mean? We take it off. We expense it at the raw material level, cost of goods sold. we do research. A lot of this, all these things that I'm spouting off, they're all published in medical journals and available on our website. So you can see, you know, that we really do wipe out 95% of the sickness in two weeks and stuff like that.
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> Kurt Avery>It's all published, and we save money and all that. So I can do. I can write that off and not make the profit. And because we believe. I. I use the analogy, let's say we made cupcakes. We'd have to sell the cupcakes, make the profit, pay the taxes, and then give away what's left out of the tax after taxes. But because we have the very, very product that they need, we don't have to make a profit. We can give it away, or, we can sell it at cost, or we do ever. So we don't have to make a profit. So what we actually put down as profits is probably less than half of what we could have put down there. Then when it does get down there, it's theoretically mine. But I can give that away, too now. I can give that away. We have a Sawyer foundation, so we give. A lot of the profits go to the Sawyer Foundation. So, in essence, we legally don't do anything illegally. Give to Caesar what is Caesar. But our taxes are probably a third of what we'd pay if we ran it like a real for profit company. But the advantage of my owning all the stock is I don't have to do that. So we, we have the foundation. People can give to the foundation.
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> Kurt Avery>Every dollar that goes to the foundation goes overseas. You can even pick what country you want to be in because we're in. We're in all, virtually every country. So that just flows through. It's a 501C3, but it. Sawyer covers all its overhead, which is pretty minimal. But Sawyer also donates a lot of money to the foundation. And we, then we give it away at Sawyer before it becomes a profit.
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> Kurt Avery>So why not? There's no U Hauls in heaven. Can't take it with you. So why not? So that's what we do. So we're able to give away. We. We say 90 of the profits because people wouldn't understand all the other. But my, the book that we brought out, Sawyer think explains some of that. so we, we avoid making profits to begin with. If we made the profits, we would give away 90 of it.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Well, that's what I was going to say.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>the next question. talk to the listeners about your book. Tell us where we can get it at and what we can expect when we read it.
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> Kurt Avery>Well, it's interesting. It's. It's a. It's a parallel book. First, it's called Sawyer Think because it's the way we think. So part of it is a business, heavy on marketing, but there's also other business things, how to make your business more successful. So, it's got all the things I've learned along the way. And the beauty of it was I'm not a real good writer, but I had a good ghostwriter who we acknowledged in here. And he didn't know anything about business, so I tried to explain it to it. He had to put it in plain English for him to understand it. So it's very, very easy to understand. There's 25 business concepts and principles to learn. So part of it is we want to make your business more successful. And if you make it more successful, we'll show you ways that you can give away more of it. So use example of a restaurant. Well, it's not just the leftover food. You know, if we can make you more successful as me, you have purchasing power.
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> Kurt Avery>You're buying at wholesale and you know, you can buy in volume. And so you can, pick whatever business you're in. There's ways to make it better and then be able to give away the profits. So we, give away in community more stuff. The second part of it is every chapter ends with a little story of what we're doing around the world. So you get a flavor of how these filters totally change lives everywhere. it's humbly, I have to say, if you think about it, it's probably as important. it's up there with antibiotics in terms of the most important things, maybe vaccines. But there's, it's a very short list of things that can change lives more than clean water. And we now have the ability to give people clean water for as low as 30 cents. You get 10 years of clean water. I mean, mean, it's, we're at that level now, so, we're obviously shortly trying to engage with government agencies or large donors. we can only do so much.
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> Kurt Avery>We're not that big. but whatever we have, we do.
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> Kurt Avery>So that's the book. So it's business techniques, how to make your business better. we do have some colleges using it as a supplement to some of the business courses. so it's very easy read and then it gives you a taste of what we're doing. But you can go on sawyer.com and get stories. We'll choke you up. There's no way you can't watch some of our stories and just get choked up. I mean, it's just phenomenal what goes on out there. a few stories.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Oh, yeah. I mean, if you want to talk about them, go right ahead.
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> Kurt Avery>Sure. I'll give you a couple of them. One, we went to, a missionary goes to Uganda and he's there for a week and he notices this is a pretty good sized village. He says, I notice you don't name your kids till the three years old. They say, yeah, because if, if they make it to three, we're pretty sure they're going to live. But we lose, you know, lose a third of your kids before they even get to age 3. So he said, enough of that. He brings back the filters, 250 filters, put them throughout the village, comes back again the next year. And now all the kids are named at birth because they're not losing a third of their kids. They all, they all live. that, that's pretty touching. we have micro businesses starting because women now have clean water and so they can cook and make tortillas or food or whatever that they could never do before because they didn't have clean water. violence settles down in one village, you couldn't have walked down that street in Nairobi, outside Nairobi before the filters got there because it was too dangerous. But now, right during the day, anybody can walk down the streets because, you know, everybody settled down, there's no more violence. another one we, this is the green part of it. They go to a village and there's an orphanage and they have these two great big huge cauldrons and they say, well, we burnt, we boil a lot of water for cooking and a lot of water for drinking. And these, all the wood underneath there, they have to have the fire. But now we don't do it. Anym. Two filters wiped out the need to boil cauldrons of water every day. So you think about the green impact of that and the convenience, how much time it takes to do that.
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> Kurt Avery>You know, there's some places where we save the women up to three hours a day of preparing water because now it's simple. And it empowers them, their brain. You know, if you ever watch the show Survivor, you know what it's like when they're dehydrated. Their brains don't think right. Well now they don't. They, they can have all the water they want, they can drink. They're, they're, they're alive, they're awake, they're, you know, no more diarrhea. I mean, you know, they don't have diapers over there for the two year olds. So just think about eliminating diarrhea for the, for the kids and the adults. One, one of the studies showed that we, we increase the amount of school that a kid can go by 30 days a year because they're not sick. The parents get 30 extra days a year to work. Well now that's huge. That's, that's like a 1012 pay increase right there because you can work an extra 30 days a year. So the impacts are all over the place. Not just quality of life, but economic, you know, that they don't have.
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> Kurt Avery>They're not spending money on medicine, the government's not spending on medicine. it's just, can you imagine our life if we didn't have running water? I mean, it's amazing. It's amazing.
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> Kurt Avery>So.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>What, tell us about any upcoming projects that you and your company are working on that listeners need to be aware of.
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> Kurt Avery>yeah, we, well first on the, on the, on the repellent side, we have a study we just completed with professors, at North Carolina, Chapel Hill, where if you take, you know, we're cutting down Malaria. So if you take. And we just finished the study, just finished like last month, if, if the mom carries the kid around all day and kind of a shawl, like, you know, like, we have Snuggly's. We would equivalent here. But they wrap the baby up, the little babies, and that is treated with our permethrin, which is our fabric treatment, which all the hunters and hikers should be using.
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> Kurt Avery>Anyways, we wiped out. I think it was like 85% of malaria. Just didn't happen. I mean, there's other exposed skins, there's other times, you know, you know, mosquito infested areas. But just simply wrapping that child, that baby in the, in the shawl, that's treated 85% less malaria. I mean, that's pretty significant for just chemically treating a plant. I mean, a piece of cloth. Same thing for the hunters. You want to get rid of ticks or mosquito bites, you can just treat your clothes. And, we have. We're also moving from DEET into Picaridin. Picaridin is a much better topical insect repellent. DEET has issues. Picaridin comes from the black pepper plant, so it's very mild.
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> Kurt Avery>It's not going to melt your watch crystals or wreck your clothes or, irritates you. So, that's the new thing. We're at state of the art now.
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> Kurt Avery>We're the number one brand of Picaritin out there.
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> Kurt Avery>you'll, you'll see it. We're, we're big on Amazon.
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> Kurt Avery>All this stuff's available on Amazon. we're in the sporting goods stores. So you got the Reis, the Dicks, the Academies, the Bass pros, Cabela's, and, and then, you know, all those profits go overseas. So whenever we sell whatever we make on that, we got some overhead, but not too bad. We're pretty lean. And, it all supports what we're doing in the water. So everything we do is state of the art. Anything that's got the name Sawyer on it is the best product on the market for that application, whether it's for the clothing and the skin or for drinking.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Okay.
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> Kurt Avery>That's why we're. We're still small, because we don't have the big ad dollars that the big brands do, but we do have. We're. We're kind of a cult product. We got a really small niche that, very, very loyal. Our sunscreens are really advanced as well, but we don't promote them because who wants to buy a sunscreen from a repellent company. But those who have used it, they're very loyal. I mean, people won't ever switch back once you've tried our sunscreens. again, we did that for the Gulf War, and we made it last a little bit longer.
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> Kurt Avery>But you read the labels that the big companies have so controlled the FDA and EPA that, you know, you read our labels, and you wouldn't want to wear it. They make it sound like it doesn't work, but once you've used it, people won't go back. So, yeah, we're. We're doing some stuff.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>And the website is sawyer.com so.com or.
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> Kurt Avery>Sawyerfoundation.Com gotcha or.org I don't know.
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> Kurt Avery>What is that about? yeah, a lot of stories there, A lot of things. And you can always ask us questions. We're. We're good at giving you answers. we've been doing a lot of things on ticks lately, so there's a little thing on there and things you need to know about ticks. people misunderstand them and get themselves in trouble, but they're pretty easy to manage when you understand them. same thing with mosquitoes. A lot of little critical bugs out there. So we're, we're very pleased with what we're doing. In the meantime, we change the world on water. I mean, that huge, huge. You want to change somebody's life, Give them clean water?
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Absolutely. Ladies and gentlemen, sawyer.com. go check them out. Go donate to that foundation.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Check out their products. Keep up with everything that they're up to. Follow, Rate, Review Share this episode to as many people as possible. Follow us on your favorite podcast platform and for more information on the Living A Dream with Curveball podcast, to leave feedback or any suggestions or sign up for the coming newsletter, visit www.craveball337.com thank you for listening and supporting the show. And, Kurt, definitely thank you for all that you're doing around the world, changing and saving lives. And thank you for joining me.
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> Kurt Avery>Oh, thank you for giving us the opportunity. We're having a blast. But it's the Lord's work, what we're doing, and it's, We give him credit for it.
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> Kurt Avery>And it's pretty humbling, actually, to be able to be able to do this.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>For more information on the Living the Dream with Curveball Podcast, visit www.craveballballball337.com until next time, keep living the dream.
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