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Welcome to the Living the Dream Podcast with Curveball, if you believe you can achieve.
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Welcome to the Living the Dream with Curveball Podcast, a show where I interview guests that teach, motivate and inspire.
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Today, I am joined by non-profit leader, luke Mickelson.
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Luke has created a non-profit organization, sleep in Heavenly Peace, where it provides and builds beds for kids.
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His goal is to make sure that every kid sleeps in the bed comfortably.
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So we're going to be talking to him about his organization, how he founded it, what they're doing and what they're going to be doing.
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So, luke, thank you so much for joining me.
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Thanks, chris, thanks for having me.
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Why don't you start off by telling everybody a little bit about yourself?
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My name is Luke Mickelson.
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I live in Twin Falls, idaho, which is a nice farming community.
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I've lived here pretty much my whole life.
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I was raised by a single mom.
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I'm actually from a smaller town outside of Twin Falls called Kimberly.
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I don't know if those listeners out there that's from a small town can understand that there's pros and cons to that, mostly pros.
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You know.
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The beauty of living in small town America is you know you get to know everybody and they get to know you.
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And the bad side of that is you get to know everybody and they get to know you.
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So it's one of those things where you know when you have a lot of friends you have a lot of opportunities that otherwise in some of these bigger cities you don't Like.
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For example, if you knew how to throw a ball with any sort of accuracy or catch, you played sports and so that's who I was.
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I was a sports guy growing up in my small high school graduation class of only 69 people.
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So you know, and I tell people that the beauty of that is when you get to know everybody.
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Everybody chips in and helps you know.
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So I think I get.
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I grew up with this sense of wanting to help and service my fellow, my fellow peers in my small town, my neighbors, and a lot of that came from my mom, who's my hero.
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I was raised by a single mom.
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There's five kids and an older brother, two older sisters and a younger sister, and my older brother he kind of left the house early and so it was me and four women.
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And so I tell everybody I was the sharpest dressed kid in town.
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When you're raised by four women, the sharpest dressed kid in town, when you're raised by four women, you get to learn the joys of service and sacrifice.
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But no, that's me in a nutshell.
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I was a sports guy.
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I loved to serve through my high school career and then, when I got out of high school, went to college, then served a mission for my church for a couple of years in Texas and I think that's where I really learned the joy of speaking with people and serving strangers.
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I mean, I remember we'd go out and proselyte, if you will, and my goal was just to get to know someone.
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Right, I'd see someone mowing their lawn or I remember a guy packing stuff out of his house because he was moving and we just suits and ties, we jumped in and helped them, and that's where I found a lot of my true joy and I and I and I attribute that to my, I think, to my mom, who who really taught me the value of serving others, and so it was it was a great.
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It was a great childhood coming up, you know.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Uh, sound like you definitely had a great time and you're doing great things.
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And speaking of the great things that you're doing, let's talk about your.
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How did you decide to get in the nonprofit?
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It's a great question.
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I don't know how I got no I, you know, in my in my career as I, as I got home from my mission and home from college, I I started outside sales in a water treatment company.
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So we sold chemicals for boilers and cooling towers.
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I mean, it's kind of technical, kind of not.
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I knew water was wet and that was about it when I started on this job.
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But I'm a quick learn, I think, and I enjoyed talking with people, right, so I felt like I could really connect with people or find common ground and then, when I believed in the product, I was able to share what we did.
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But I think the best part of the job that I had was when customers would have problems or issues.
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They had to rely on me and I enjoyed that.
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I enjoyed showing up and figuring out, solving the problems for these customers.
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And these weren't small customers.
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We're talking Microsoft and power plants and food processing plants.
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There's millions of dollars online if you don't solve this pretty quick and I enjoyed that.
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I enjoyed that service, end of things.
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Some of the best advice I ever got was from my mission president said you know, if you can, no matter what you do, no matter what job or career you're in, if you can look at your Employment as serving others and not just a paycheck, you'll enjoy it so much more.
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And he was 100% right.
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And so I kind of went into the business world, just like I did my mission and just like I did young growing up, you know how can I really serve other people?
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And I remember, you know I enjoyed my job and I was coaching kids and I was serving in my church.
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And then 2012 came around and you know, I tell people look, I don't know what a midlife crisis looks like.
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I think I was going through one at the time.
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I just didn't feel like myself.
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I felt like there was more that I could offer.
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I felt like I wanted to leave a mark on this world that was more than just trying to make money and trying to do that kind of stuff.
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I measured success wrong, I don't know.
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I just kind of felt down.
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And again, at the time I served in my church role as what was called a young men's president.
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So I was over the young men's program, ages 12 to 18.
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And I was responsible for the spiritual growth as well as the activity of the church and the boys' program, which was basically scouts, and so I was the leader of the leader of the scouts, if you will, and so sometimes I got to play and go and mess around with the kids.
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But mostly I sat in meetings and we discussed like one particular meeting we discussed all the families we were helping in the community and in our church, and there was one particular story that we were talking about a family, a mom who was the local school bus driver and the dad he suffered from some mental health, couldn't hold down a job, and they had a couple of kids.
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Well, the church was talking about how they were helping them with rent and helping them with food and rides to school, and the kids didn't have any beds and they needed clothes and toys.
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I said, wait a minute, did did you say the kids don't have any beds?
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And uh, that really hit me.
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You know I I don't know why I'm not a stranger to serve.
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You know we took the boy scouts and we would build wheelchair ramps and you know paint bleachers and do blood drives and do all that stuff.
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But this particular issue, it just really struck me.
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You know, I had kids of my own 10, 6, and 1 at the time and I don't know.
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I just felt like man, that's terrible, like we got to figure out what to do here.
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And so I remember I got really excited when I went home that night from that meeting because my daughter had a bunk bed and I thought here's a great opportunity to take these Boy Scouts, you know, get a Xbox control out of their hands and put a drill in it.
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We're going to teach them some good skills here.
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And so I started measuring my daughter's bunk bed and my wife was like what are you doing?
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I said, you know, we're.
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There's some kids that are sleeping on the floor.
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If you can believe that, I'm going to take these boy scats, we're going to build them a bunk bed.
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And I'm not a stranger to a tool, uh, but I'd never built furniture before, so I was a little nervous.
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But we were, we were going to figure it out.
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And, uh, you kids.
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It was interesting.
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I worried as a leader of kids nowadays and I'm sure everybody out there that has them can relate finding an activity that they feel is worth their time or fun that didn't involve a screen or some sort of video game is difficult nowadays, and so I was a little worried that this wasn't going to fly like I wanted it to.
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But I was surprisingly and happily wrong as I looked at these boys and how they just enjoyed and dove right in helping me build this bunk bed and I know it's because they were thinking about where it was going.
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You know we're going to take this to a couple of kids that are sleeping on the floor and so when we were all said and done, I actually had to stay back and clean my garage, because that's where we built it, my garage and it was just a mess.
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Well, the boys and their parents and the leaders went and delivered this bed to this child and the next day Churchley told me what an amazing experience it was and I felt really jealous because I wanted to be a part of that.
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But it was great and it was great to hear the story.
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It was great to see that the kids were taken care of and the parents were grateful and all this were taken care of and the parents were grateful and all this.
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And I remember that night sitting on my couch just pondering this last week and how this hole that was being developed in my heart just got filled with this oddly strange satisfaction that I'd never really felt before in my service.
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And then an Xbox game commercial came online, or at least came on the TV while we were watching TV with my kids and I knew it was Christmas time.
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I knew they were going to ask for this Xbox game.
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I wasn't going to buy them it.
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They knew that.
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But every parent that's got kids around Christmas time knows these kids are just going to ask for things that they know they're not going to get Sure enough.
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That's what happened, curtis.
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It just hit me right.
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It hit me.
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I'm back in my mundane, which sounds terrible.
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I didn't have a mundane life, but I was back in this rut that I was in, I'll say, and just had this amazing experience.
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It was gone.
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My kids are complaining about the presence.
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They know I'm not going to get.
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I just delivered, or built and helped deliver a bed to a child that didn't have one.
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These guys have been, I don't know.
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It was just this big emotional storm hit me just right, and I remember there was about two, three inches.
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My feet were off the ground from the couch.
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You know I was sitting on the couch and I remember that was.
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I could either sit here and try to teach my kids, tell them what we did, tell them the things they had.
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Or I could do what I did with my Boy Scouts I could get my butt off the couch, I could get out in the garage we had some leftover wood and I could teach these kids of mine the value of service, the joy of service, and certainly appreciate the things that they have.
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Like they have their own bed Gosh, dang it.
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And so I jumped up off the couch and started walking to the garage and everybody's like Dad, where are you going?
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I said you know what?
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I'm going to build another bunk bed and you're going to help me.
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And, curtis, we had such a great time.
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My six-year-old daughter was out there in her tutu, you know, swinging nails and sanders around.
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My son was hammering boards in place and you know we were listening to.
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You know butt rock 80s and it was just fun.
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You know, we just had a great time.
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And then I was stuck at the end of the week.
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You know we spent a couple of days on it and, you know, got it all stained up and then I was here.
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What do I do with this bunk bed?
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I didn't know child bedlessness was a real thing.
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I built this for my kids and so as I sat here thinking you know what do I do with this?
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It was recommended to me why don't you throw this on one of those you know, buy, sell, trade Facebook groups on the marketplace?
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And I thought my first thought was okay, I'm going to put a free bed on the marketplace.
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I'm going to get every Tom Dick and Harry's going to want a bed, a free bed, and I really wanted to give it to a kid in need, a child that didn't have a bed.
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This was for a child didn't have a bed, this was for a child.
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Well, even though we got a lot of those people that wanted a free bed, two things really surprised me that happened.
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The first thing was we did get a lot of requests of kids that were sleeping in really uncomfortable situations.
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It shocked me.
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And the second thing was I had a community of friends, people I didn't know or people I'd known for 20 years I hadn't talked to him for 20 years All of a sudden came out of the woodwork and said Luke man, I want to help.
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That seems really cool and I was like it just warmed my heart that we have those types of people in the community just sitting and waiting for ways to serve and help, and anyways.
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What really hit me, though, is when we finally found the family, the situation that I wanted.
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You know, a friend of mine said, hey, I know of a family.
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They've been homeless.
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They just got a house, they have nothing.
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And I said, perfect, that's, that's, this is what I was looking for.
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So, curtis, I showed up to and it's my Haley story.
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I showed up to Haley's new home, walked in and she didn't know why we were there.
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Her and her mom were there and there was nothing in the house.
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And I'd seen poverty and homelessness and all that before, but I never really looked at it through the eyes of a, of a child, cause that's who we were there to serve was the child and uh it, it blew me away.
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It really, really tore at my heartstrings.
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And then to realize and to physically see there was nothing in the house.
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There was a hot plate sitting on a milk carton that had a can of soup on it, that was dinner and that was it, and it was pretty humbling, but little Haley, you couldn't tell, she was just so excited that we were here, that she had a house, she had a bedroom and so she said, you know she's like come, let me show you my bedroom.
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Just think about that.
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You know I have a kid so excited to show a complete stranger her bedroom.
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So we go back in her bedroom and you can imagine what it looked like.
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I mean, there's holes in the carpet and tears in the walls and you know there's no doors on the closets.
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It was just a kind of a rundown house, but it was.
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It was theirs, and but what what shocked me the most was in the corner of this room was a pile of clothes.
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Um, and that's where little Haley slept.
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She'd come home from from school, she'd take her school clothes off, put, put her pajamas on and then sleep on her clothes and then, of course, in the morning reverse the cycle and go to school.
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And that really shocked me.
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That hit me so hard to think for weeks or months or whoever, maybe years, had we not shown up that little Haley would be sleeping in that nest of clothes.
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So we were pretty excited to bring in the bed.
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And we bring in everything.
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We bring in mattress sheets, sheet sets, and I don't think the mom realized that.
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We start bringing in the pieces of bed and putting together, and then we bring the mattress in and I remember the mom going oh, there's mattresses and sheets and pillows too.
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I said, oh, absolutely, little Haley's going to sleep tonight.
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When Haley figured out what we were doing, she just erupted.
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She started hugging us and hugging the bed and kissing the bed, which was crazy.
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I never saw that before.
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And if that wasn't enough to just melt your heart, I looked up at Haley's mom and here's a single mom.
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All I saw was my mom, right, single mom, trying her best to raise her kids with the means that she has, which is, you know, small.
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And I watched each one of her tears just fall off her cheek, knowing exactly what those tears were like.
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I experienced it myself, you know.
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I tell people.
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I remember we had one Christmas where we weren't going to get anything.
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You know it was five kids, my mom's single, my dad was was gone and we weren't going to get anything.
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And my mom came back from from getting the mail out of the of the mailbox and she had $1,500 in cash in her hand and someone had just stuffed our, our, uh, mailbox with $1,500.
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And I just remember.
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You know what that's going to be me one day to be able to help those in need.
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That's what I want.
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Um, and and here, here I was looking at this this mom just just crying tears of joy of, of, but tears of, you know, frustration just being released.
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I don't know.
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It just really hit me so much that, you know, we had about a half hour drive home and me and my buddy, jordan, um, and my wife, we, we, we didn't really say anything to each other.
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It was just so overwhelming.
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And by the time we got home, I remember thinking you know, curtis, I'm a, I'm a Idaho farm kid, right, so I like to hunt and fish and play outside, and college football was my thing on Saturdays or football period, I mean, I just I liked to be active like that and those are the things I just lived for.
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Well, in a snap of a finger, all those things didn't mean anything to me anymore.
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To spend a few hours each night that week to solve that problem was well worth my time.
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And by the time we got home, I remember going.
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You know what?
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I just looked at my friend.
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I said, jordan, no kid's gonna sleep on the floor in my town if I have anything to do with it Solve that issue.
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And he felt the same, you know.
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So we just started building beds.
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You know we'd post what we were doing.
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People would come over strangers.
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We'd just show up in my garage, we'd start, you know, they'd just chip in, build beds, sand, stain, whatever, and then we'd deliver them.
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And we delivered 21 beds.
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That you know, 2012 Christmas before Santa showed up, and it was just the neatest experience.
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Okay, well, your organization has been featured anywhere from PBS to CNN.
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So you know, kind of tell us about that and how you know that helped get the word out and how did that feel to you guys?
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bad.
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Child bedlessness although not a real word, a real problem, really was or really is still.
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We just knew that there was a few people in our small little community that had kids on the floor.
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But the more we built and the more we posted and talked to people about it, the more we unraveled and uncovered this epidemic, this silent epidemic that's been plaguing our kids across our country.
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And then the beauty of it was the more people that saw it, the more people wanted to help.
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And then we started.
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As, through the years went by, we said you know, we probably ought to make this a nonprofit.
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We can't finance it ourselves anymore.
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And we found that there was a lot of organizations, companies that wanted to give back, wanted to have a team building exercise, and when we take raw lumber because this is how we build beds we take raw lumber, we run it through kind of an assembly line of measuring and cutting and you know, put jigs that put holes in the right places and blah, blah, blah.
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Anyways, by the end of this train we have pieces of a bunk bed or a regular bed and we can build beds super fast you know, 40, 50 in just a couple of hours.
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And so companies would want to donate money to us, but we weren't a nonprofit.
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So we decided, okay, it's time to be a nonprofit, right?
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We didn't know what that meant.
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I mean, we knew what charities were, but we didn't know how to set up a nonprofit, let alone run one.
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But we decided, we're going to fly this plane as we, we're going to build this plane as we fly it.
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And that's what we did.
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We just started going to town.
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I figured out how to do it, we do it.
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We figured out how to do a website.
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I put everything up.
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My friends came on board and really, really wanted to help my friend Jordan.
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He wanted to do it up in Boise.
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So we kind of said, okay, you'll be chapter, the Boise chapter, and this will be the Twin Falls chapter.
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And then other people started saying, oh, you're expanding.
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Well, we want to do it in our town.
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You know friends of ours, and some of these friends lived as far as San Diego, california, or Lehigh, utah.
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And then we had a friend in Minnesota, a guy that we actually wasn't even a friend.
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We didn't even know who he was.
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He just felt the urge from God to build beds for kids.
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He just Googled it, came up with us, called us and says, hey, can you show me how you build your beds?
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And I said, hey, nate, better, yet why don't you just become a chapter and build beds all the time with us?
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And we saw a real shift.
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I don't know if it's a shift is the right word.
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We saw a real interest that the community had and people that wanted to give, and we quickly realized that child bedlessness is a thing, but so is the communities that we live in are filled with people that just they want to serve.
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They're great people.
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They just don't know where to serve or how to serve or find some very meaningful service, and we provided that.
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We provided both the fun activity of building the bed, the fun and spiritual, I call it, or certainly emotionally impactful delivery of a bed, but it brought satisfaction and fulfillment to people's hearts, like it did mine, and so we just started growing.
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Well, in about 2018, well, it's the end of 2017, a couple of big things happened in my life.
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We were building beds, quite a bit people getting to know us.
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We started putting on chapters.
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In fact, we put on five chapters in five different states just in 2017 alone.
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It just felt like we were going really, really fast and spreading.
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And all of a sudden, you know, I was employed and full time, I was executive vice president over the company and over sales and was going to buy the business with my brother and you know just, my career was set.