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> Speaker A>Welcome, um, to the living the dream podcast with curveball. Um, if you believe you can achieve chee chee, welcome, um, to the living a dream with curveball podcast, a show where I interview guests that teach, motivate, and inspire. Today, we're going to be talking about transforming the human potential, as I am joined by transformational coach, success strategist, coach, and author, Scott Allen. Scott's books are in 15 languages, and he focuses on, um, transforming the human potential and helping people be successful. So, Scott, thank you so much for joining me today.
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> Scott Allen>Well, thanks for having me. It's great to be here.
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> Speaker A>Why don't you start off by telling everybody a little bit about yourself?
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> Scott Allen>Sure thing. So, my name is Scott Allen. I work as an author, motivational, uh, speaker, and entrepreneur. So I have been publishing books for about a decade, and I'll just give you a little bit of insight into how this came about. So, originally, I'm from Canada, but I have been living in Japan for about 25, 26 years now. So it's been a little while. And when I was back in Canada, back in the day, I got to a point in my life where I decided that I had to change things because it just wasn't. I wasn't in a place in my life where I wanted to be. And I knew inside that there's so much more that I could have been doing. So at the time, I was working as an electrical engineer, living in Vancouver, had lots of friends, had a good life. But something inside me was just hungry for a different life. Um, not something that wasn't, uh, the normal experience, so to speak.
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> Scott Allen>So, one day, I'm in the bookstore and walking through, and I came across a book called Awaken the Giant within by Tony Robbins, which I think everybody, most people are aware of. Tony, you might have seen his books or presentations, but something told me at that moment that I had to buy that book. And at the time, I was reading some other self help books and going through some personal transformation. I wanted to make changes in my life. But when I picked up this book, I took it home, I read through it in a few days, and when I got to the section on goal setting, I started to set my goals for myself, which is something that I'd never done before. So within a couple of days, I had a bunch of goals written out, and I started putting ideas up on my wall and pictures of places I wanted to go.
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> Scott Allen>And I didn't know where any of this was going, but, um, within a week, I had this big vision board on my wall. And basically what it turned out to be was all the things that I wanted to do, such as writing books, traveling the world, which was a new one. I'd never conceived of doing that before.
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> Scott Allen>I was happy to just kind of stay in my little bubble, but from this, um, I guess I'll call it, ah, inner experience, I realized that there were a lot of things I wanted to do with my life.
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> Scott Allen>So that vision board was really the roadmap for what I was going to build in the future.
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> Scott Allen>And every day I kept adding more to it. Um, I decided that from that date, it was probably way back in 97.
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> Scott Allen>And I came to Japan in 98, but I decided one day that I was just going to go travel the world. Didn't know how it was going to happen. But one thing I learned in life is that you don't need to figure out the how right away. You just need to decide what it is that you're going to do and decide when you're going to do it. At least give yourself a rough timeframe. And I said, within one year, I'm going to be living in Asia, maybe Thailand, Vietnam, I wasn't sure, but I wanted to go and visit these places that I've always heard about. It was just, it became, um, a dream, and then it became an obsession to get there. So I spent the year planning this out, wasn't sure again how it was going to turn out. I didn't have much money, um, but, uh, I knew that it had to happen. So I'll give you a little insight on intuition. Um, so, you know, listening to your intuitive heart is a very powerful thing. And one day, uh, as I was planning my future and, you know, kind of trying to figure out how I was going to put this whole thing together, I, my roommate brought home the newspaper, and I don't read the newspaper, usually never have read one, but, uh, except to check the comics and maybe, you know, check the movies.
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> Scott Allen>But I just happened to pick up this newspaper, opened it up, and right there, there is an article that says, uh, like an advertisement says, teach English in Japan, hiring now. And I thought, that sounds like a great idea. Why don't I try that? So I sent them a resume, nice little cover letter, and within 30 days, they got back to me and said, we want to meet you this week. And next thing I knew, I was in downtown Vancouver, sitting in a fancy hotel with a japanese businessman who was interviewing me for this position in Japan.
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> Scott Allen>And, uh, after the interview, um, I got a call the next day. Then they said, very, uh, sorry. But, uh, you know, we chose three people for the position, and you were number four, so you didn't get the job. It's like, okay, well, that's, that's fine. They didn't change my plans. I was still going to do the thing and just get on a plane and, you know, probably I think I was going to go to Thailand or something and just start there. But a week later they called me back and said, um, third guy dropped out. So you're in if you're interested. And I definitely was, and that was it. So the point of the story is that you make a decision for something, no matter what it is, and you don't need to know the whole why, but you just have to believe in it strongly enough that it's going to happen and opportunities are going to start to pop up. That's always been my experience. Whenever I made a decision, I just decided, this is what I want. And then the how showed up later and I continued to just follow through with action. And as I pushed forward with this thing to achieve, whether it's a goal or an objective, um, eventually I, um, could have that thing, but also the visualization was a big part of it. So I mentioned that, uh, I had this big visualization board up on my wall and everything, and I would just look at it every day, visualizing what it would be like to go visit these other cultures and do these other things. And at the time, I also wanted to be an author, but I was not really writing at the time. Maybe doing some journaling and, um, you know, the publishing came later and I'll get into that in a second. But, um, I did eventually come to Japan and, you know, company set me up in a nice house and give me a car. And I was making really good money, more money than I was making as an engineer in Canada. And I thought, this is great. This is like living the dream. You know, I was traveling to these, like, exotic temples and all these things. I thought, this is what, this is what I had dreamt about.
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> Scott Allen>So I wanted more of that. And, um, so I just dug in hard and managed to stay in Japan and, uh, got hired by other companies to get my visa to stay longer. And that was it. Now, as I'm going through life as we all do, I got to a point where I became restless again. And the restlessness is a key indicator that there's something in your life that you want to change. You may be hungry for a transformation. You want to, um, do something different with your life. And I think this is where the human potential comes into play, because we're all capable of so much more than we're actually doing, no matter what it is, no matter who you are. I could even probably say this about maybe Elon Musk, who's achieved so much, and he's built these companies and everything, but, um, he's always striving for that next level. Um, now, some people may think that's not a healthy thing to do, but if you look at it, I mean, I want to be striving for the best version of myself, which may be five or ten or 20 years from now. And I always want to be moving towards, uh, that objective or goal, and we'll call it a goal, but it's like a vision that I have. And everybody has this capability to change their lives.
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> Scott Allen>And when I say change the lives, I mean not just making things better financially, which is a good thing, but mentally, um, and physically as well. You know, you can, um. I know people who have lost a lot of weight, and they transformed them, their, their bodies, and they went into bodybuilding competitions, or, you know, they started, um, health clubs and those kinds of things. So the transformation is, uh, a different path for everybody. But you have to decide what that's going to be for you, you know, because you have the potential, the human potential, to, you know, take yourself to any level, and you're never going to be as good as you want to be in one lifetime. I think, you know, we may need several hundred or several thousand, I don't know. But at least in this life, you know, you have a chance every day, because every day is a gift to do whatever it is you want to do.
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> Scott Allen>So just going to circle back a little bit to, um, you know, when I started to get a little bit restless, I realized that, oh, yeah, my other goal was to write a book and become an author. And that's always been a dream of mine since I was way back in high school, which is going back about 35 years, right? And I did a lot of writing back in those days. You know, I'd written fiction and science fiction books and things like that, but this time it was different. I wanted to write, um, you know, books that were going to empower people, to empower their own lives. So I started out, um, I just sat down one day with a pen and a paper, and I made a decision just to start writing something, you know? And this is the other key, um, one of the other key factors I just want people to take away today is that we get stuck because we're not making a decision as to what we want, or we may know what we want, but we're not taking the first step to getting it. And sometimes it's just sitting down with, you know, like, in my case it was a pen and paper and I started writing a book. And then three years later I had like 100,000 words ready, you know, but it had to start with something.
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> Scott Allen>So when I started putting this together, um, all these ideas just started pouring out of me and I just spent like two or three years just creating content. Now, it wasn't like just showing up every day and writing a bunch of stuff. There was a lot of procrastination along the way. Doubt and uncertainty. Should I be doing this? Is this a waste of time? But something told me again, inside, I could just feel this, uh, this energy inside of me just said, you've got to do this thing.
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> Scott Allen>And whenever you feel that, uh, emotion inside, or you feel that, uh, if it's something that's speaking to you and you know that it's the one thing that you always wanted to do, the tendency may be to ignore it, but I would pay attention to it, right. And when you pay attention to it, it gets stronger. And then you start to feel that, uh, there, uh, is more to this, there is more I could be doing with my life. There is more potential, and there's always, uh, more potential things that I can be striving for. I don't have to stay in the job that I don't like, I don't have to stay in the relationship I don't like. I can move beyond anything. So that's just the, um, core message that I carry in the writings that I create today with the content. But yeah, I started out with, um, I did publish my first book, maybe back in 2012, 2013. It was a self published book, as most of them are. Um, but it only started that way because Amazon had just launched their self publishing program and I think I was one of the first authors maybe to jump in on that. And, you know, nobody really knew what they were doing back then. There weren't any courses or, you know, that Amazon had a few videos on it, maybe, you know, just, you know, they had their platform set up. But uh, I was already there, you know, and um, I'd hired an editor and cover designer. And the thing about this is that, ah, everything has a step by step process.
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> Scott Allen>Like no matter what it is you're working on, you know, so you could be working on a book, you could be building a house. Doesn't matter. You need to have a blueprint for it, though. And it's okay to make that blueprint as you, as you progress, uh, through the process. So, you know, as I'm working on my first book, I found an editor and a cover designer, and I didn't really know what I was doing. I was just putting things together. But again, my vision was to publish a book that was going to help a lot of people. And that was it, you know, and I did that. And then I did it again and I did it again and I just kept, uh, showing up. And, um, yeah, I did more books because people were now contacting me saying, hey, we really, uh, you know, I really like this book. I like what you said here. And I, uh, thought, okay, something might be working here because I wasn't expecting to get feedback, you know, from people who are emailing me saying, when's the next book coming out? Or, how did you do this? Or can you teach this better? So, um, that was really important, you know, getting feedback from people and realizing that, uh, they were paying attention. So, yeah, as time went on, I just continued, uh, on that path. And I think, um, probably a decade later, um, I have a pretty good publishing business. We're still publishing books and, um, still helping a lot of people. But the thing is that I always keep in mind that there's always that, uh, the original goal was to help 10 million people, to elevate their potential, to show them the way, that there is a better way that you could be living your life, even if you have a really good life right now, which is a good thing to have. But imagine how much, you know, you could have something even greater. You could be, um, happier. You could be, you know, wealthier. You can be in better physical, uh, condition. There's always that next level.
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> Scott Allen>So, um, if you feel stuck and you want to move forward, then there are several things that you can do. First of all, just take some time out for yourself. Sit down with pen and paper. That's, you don't need any fancy tools. And just make a list of all the goals that you. Anything.
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> Scott Allen>Just, it's like a brain, you know, it's like a brain, my brain dump. You just want to dump everything down on the page so you see what you got. And then from that list, choose five of those goals, and it can be anything. It could be, you know, starting a garden in my backyard or whatever it might be, you know, but just write everything down on the page and then choose five of those goals from. From those five, choose three more. And from those three, choose the one thing. And this is what I did back in the day when I decided to travel the world and later on, write books. I narrowed it down to three. And those were two. And the third one was actually just to become the greatest potential, um, for myself.
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> Scott Allen>I wanted to build a new identity, and I wanted to experience something that was just. That nobody else had experienced before. That was the other goal, I guess. And, um, I had started with that, probably, and the traveling. Uh, but again, I focused in on that, got clear on the steps that I needed. And I didn't know the how or how it was going to turn out. I just knew that I had to do this thing.
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> Scott Allen>So, yeah, I'm just, um, suggesting to people to make that list, choose that goal, and then make a list of the action steps that you would need to achieve it. You don't need to know everything. You just need to have, like, one 2510 steps. And these can be small steps.
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> Scott Allen>You know, it could be like, something as simple as researching something or calling somebody or whatever it is to get that momentum. Because that's the one thing that, uh, a lot of people are missing, is they, uh, need the momentum and they need to take action on just one thing, just to get that energy moving forward and then do one more thing. And one more thing. You do one thing every day for a year. You've done 365 steps towards that goal. Right.
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> Scott Allen>And these don't have to be, uh. You know, it might be something you need to spend 510 minutes a day, depending on the task you're working on. So. But, um, that's just that you just need that clarity, you know, clarity is the key.
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> Speaker A>Can you explain the concept of doing the hard things first and how that contributes to personal and business success?
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> Scott Allen>Yes, absolutely. So that book came about a few years ago. Um, do the hard things first because it came about through my own experience with a lifetime of what I would classify as chronic procrastination.
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> Scott Allen>I think, um, I didn't come up with that, of course. That was a, um, term that used psychology. But chronic procrastination was, I would procrastinate on everything, just delaying anything that was hard, uh, because to do it or even to think about it caused anxiety and overwhelm, which are two things that are difficult to deal with. And when we feel those things, we want to escape from that, you know, turning on tv for hours at a time or participating in, um, I don't know, a bad habit, an addictive habit, whatever your escape is, you know.
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> Scott Allen>So my chronic procrastination got to the point where, you know, everybody procrastinates on something. I mean, that's just, you know, um, especially when we have resistance or, you know, there's something new that we're working towards. You know, there will be that initial resistance where you, of course, you may not want to do it, but you know that you have to get it done. Or if you do it, there's going to be something better on the other side. But with chronic procrastination, it was just, um, give you a quick story. Um, so about five years ago, I had a credit card bill due, and it wasn't that much. It was like$1,000 maybe. So I had a few credit cards and the bill usually came direct out of my bank account.
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> Scott Allen>So, you know, it was always paid and always paid my bills. But this one card was not linked to my account. So the bank would send me the statements in the mail, and I'd never used this card before, just a couple of times. So when the statements came through, the first couple of statements, I would just, uh, kind of tossed them to the side and ignored them.
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> Scott Allen>Right. And statements kept coming.
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> Scott Allen>And probably within 45 to 60 days, they were getting a little more urgent.
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> Scott Allen>Right now. They were in Japanese, but I, uh, could still read the language. It's basically like, pay us now or else. And, um, what happened? Um, after three months of procrastinating on doing this thing, and this would have been a very easy thing to take care of, just had to drive across town to the bank and walk into the bank and pay the bill. That was, that would have taken care of it. And within three months, they had, uh, sent me a final letter stating that, uh, not only had they canceled that card, but they cancelled my credit and everything that went with it.
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> Scott Allen>So that came out as a result of my procrastinating, ignoring the situation, um, for no reason at all, because it could have been easily handled with, um, a little bit of work. But it was a form of self sabotage, which I realized was a big, ah, character defect of mine.
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> Scott Allen>It still creeps up on me every now and then.
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> Scott Allen>And, um, as a result, yes, lost all my credit, which is a big deal because all of my business for the most part, is online and I need, um, online credit to pay for everything. So put me in a, put my business at risk and all kinds of things. But, um, good news is, a few years later, I got my credit back and got everything restored and all that. But, uh, the point is that that was um, just one of the situations where chronic procrastination, um, got in the way, um, had a negative impact, um, on my business and my lifestyle. And that's the thing.
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> Scott Allen>Do the hard things first came from that experience, but it was also I started recognizing it in other things as well.
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> Scott Allen>Now with the do the other things first. It is a series of books. Now, the fourth one is coming out in a few months.
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> Scott Allen>But um, each of these books, they focus on a specific pain point that a lot of people deal with, like how to overcome bad habits, you know, how to master self control. The first one is on how to overcome procrastination. And that's just a very, you know, that book in and of itself was translated into, yes, about 16 languages now because I realized, well, it wasn't just a pain point that I was going through. It seems to be a, ah, big pain point for a lot of people because I was getting, again, a lot of questions about it. Um, not everybody loved the book. Some people were really put off by it, uh, I think because maybe it triggers something in them that, uh, they didn't like. It was a hard book to write because I had to look into a lot of my own personal defects and why I was, you know, I would procrastinate on these things. Now, I think I'd been relatively successful with publishing books and things like that, but there were certain things that I just absolutely didn't want to do. And I could feel that resistance. Um, part of it was give, um, you another example. Filling out application forms. I don't know what it was, but whenever I had an application form that came in through the mail, um, um, I would just throw it in the corner and say, I'll do it later, you know, or I'll do it tomorrow. Um, um. And these are trigger points as well. Like, um, um. When it comes to doing the hard things first, one of the reasons that we don't do hard things is because we want to look for the, um, um, you know, the path of least resistance is really that, that's by default. Most people merge towards that path. You know, we take that path because it's less scary, it's more certain, you know, it's. We can predict the outcome, right.
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> Scott Allen>But by doing hard things, ideally in the morning. So this is uh, just, I'll just run you through a little process here. Is that what I do every night before bed is I'll write down the three things that I'm going to do work on the next day, and I will tackle these in the morning because first of all, um, your energy is high in the morning. It should be anyway. So your energy is at an all time high.
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> Scott Allen>Um, I usually, I have a good morning routine. I get up, uh, relatively early, get in a little bit of exercise, you know, get some protein into me, some fresh air, and then I'm ready to go. But your energy is really high, so you want to spend that time on one or two of the hard things. Because if you nail these and get these done, first of all, um, it's not going to make your whole day easy, but it's going to be easier. Like, you're going to get your things done and then you're going to be able to focus more on your other work. Right. Um, give an example, actually. So one of my hard things to do, actually, is writing. It's one of those things where, although I've put out quite a few books, I still procrastinate on it. But it's my first thing that I will do every morning is write 1000 words.
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> Scott Allen>And I have to make it my hard thing to do now after I've done it a thousand times. It's not as hard as it used to be, but there are other hard things that will pop up. Uh, sometimes there are emergencies that need to be handled. Um.
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> Scott Allen>Um, and the thing is, if you don't do the hard things, there will be consequences later on. And that, uh, is, uh, relating back to the credit card incident, the consequences of that.
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> Scott Allen>I was delaying everything. I was like, oh, I'll do it later, do it tomorrow. And it's always like you're stuck in that moment of immediate gratification. I don't want to do it right now because it's really hard. So I'm just going to watch tv or watch Netflix or whatever it may be with the dog. But, um, those things that you're avoiding have very serious consequences later on, depending on what it may be, you know, and I think one of the greater consequences, the negative consequences, the fact that you're not going to level up, you're not going to reach your, you know, a potential. I mean, our potential is unlimited.
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> Scott Allen>So there's never the other, there's not a ceiling to it. But, I mean, you're not going to be able to take yourself to that new level if you're not doing the hard things required to get there. Because it may seem scary, uh, in the beginning, but that's only fear showing up in the beginning, and you have to do it scared, which I think is a great concept. Um, Susan Jeffers wrote the book feel the fear and do it anyway. Um, one of my favorite books, uh, back in the day, it was one of the first books that I'd read, I think, for self help. So I had this, uh, ingrained in my system. Like, I'm feeling scared about getting on a plane and moving to another country, but I'm going to do it anyway, you know. Now, again, there are other things that would pop up where I would procrastinate on those and push them aside because, uh, you know, it was, um, it led to, I guess, like the fear of failure also came in there as well, which is part of, um, I have a book on fail big, but I brought that in to do the hard things. First part of it was, uh, you know, again, we avoid doing the hard things because we're afraid of failing at something. Um, there's the uncertainty that it's not going to work out. There's no guarantee.
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> Scott Allen>And I realized that's just the way life is.
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> Scott Allen>I mean, there'll never be a guarantee for anything. The only guarantee is that if you don't do something difficult that's going to get you to the next level, you're going to stay the same or you're going to decline. If everything is moving towards chaos, which it constantly is, systems always, they break and people get older and everything's moving towards chaos, but that doesn't mean that you have to let it happen, right? So what I'd recommend is just making a, uh, similar to the list that I would make for my goals. I also make a list of the hard things that I'm putting off every day. And I still do it with certain things, uh, in my business, things that I need to build out for a website or, you know, emails I need to send and just things like that. Ah, I'm putting off because, um, it's not that it's a difficult thing, but maybe, first of all, I don't know how to do it. So my excuse is, well, I don't know how to do this thing, so I'm just going to wait until tomorrow or something like that. But, um, if that's the case, then you just have to break it down, really, and look at, um, do some, um, self analysis, become self aware of why you're not working on it to begin with. I actually will take some time out to meditate and think on it. So this is another kind of meditation where you're clearing your mind of all thoughts. I think it's the form of creative visualization or creative meditation, where I sit down and I will just think about this thing that I am, um, delaying. And when I do, I visualize myself working on it. I visualize myself solving the problem or the issue. And then I see myself later having achieved this hard thing that I was working on. And that's the thing, is that if you can create the emotion in the future of, uh, what it looks like and feels like to have actually done this thing, then your body doesn't, your subconscious doesn't know the difference between what's happened and what hasn't happened yet. So you're going to be able to create that, uh, future for yourself. And that's actually a big key right there is just sitting down, visualizing yourself, working on it, seeing yourself, getting it done, feeling what it's like to have actually achieved it. And now you're ready to go to work. So doing the hard things begins with identifying what it is you're putting off. Not so much the why. I mean, there could be a lot of reasons why. Like, yes, there's fear involved. Um, I don't know how to do it, whatever it may be. But if it's something you don't know how to do, let's just start with that.
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> Scott Allen>Um, doesn't always mean that you have to be the one who's doing the hard work. So let's just say if, uh, you own a business, for example, and in the business, there are multiple skill sets that someone has to learn in order to run things. And I've had this all the time where, um, I got stuck in my own business because I didn't know how to do something. So I just put it off.
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> Scott Allen>Like building our website, for example. And it's like, how am I going to build this website? How can I put this together? And I realized I was asking the wrong question. More like, um, who can I hire to do this thing?
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> Scott Allen>Um, and I think, uh, that came from a great book, um, who not how by Dan Sullivan and doctor Benjamin Hardy. Um, who not how really, uh, changed a lot of the things for how I do hard things. Because I realized, like, well, maybe if it's something that I can just outsource, then it doesn't matter how it gets done. The only thing that we need to figure out is the solution to getting it finished or to getting it completed. So that's, uh, just a really good key point right there, is that whenever you're up against a wall, clarify whether it's something you need to work on. Is there a skill you need to move forward. If there is, what is that skill?
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> Scott Allen>So again, clarity, identifying what the skill is and then learning that skill and moving forward. But not just taking in information, you have to learn a bit of the skill.
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> Scott Allen>Take action and move forward. Learn more, take action.
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> Scott Allen>And, um, because, yeah, just knowledge in and of itself is a good thing, but, uh, you have to implement and put it into practice. Right. So. Yeah, but, uh, but that's the thing, you know, just identify if, uh, you're the one that needs to do it or you can hire it out. And what I realized is that there's a lot of things that I can, um, outsource. You know, whether you go on fiverr or you hire someone on upwork or you hire someone locally, you know, it could be, uh. Um, I have a friend, I'll just give you a quick story. So a friend of mine, his house was always in disarray. It was all, you had clutter everywhere, and it was very dirty. And, um, I just said to him one day, why don't you just, uh, if you hate cleaning so much? He was always procrastinating on the cleaning, and he was like, you know, he would get something and he would just throw it in another room, and every room just became this big, big clutter box. And he had a big house, right. So. But I just said, one day, if you don't want to clean, you hate cleaning, hire someone for it, you know? And he was putting it off because he didn't want to spend dollar 500 on cleaning. But it's like, you're going to get it, you know, you're going to get it done. And that's what he did.
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> Scott Allen>Um, a crew came in on the weekend, cleaned it up, got rid of most of the clutter. They either threw stuff out or they sold it. And within a few days it was, you know, it was like a new house. It was done. But the thing is, he had put that off for years, you know, like cleaning the house and doing things. And, and now just every few months, he'll just, um, you know, because, again, one of the reasons we don't do hard things is because it's something we really hate to do, and. But it has to be done. If you need to get something done to move forward again, you just have to figure out the solution to getting it done. It doesn't mean you have to be the one to do it. So that's just an important thing that I want to bring up, um, because there's no reason that we need to be stuck. Uh, yes, delaying difficult things is just a part of our nature, but, um, that's also where the growth is as well, because what you'll realize is by taking action towards things that are difficult and achieving that solution is, uh, going to fill you with energy, you're going to be more motivated. Now, motivation, by the way, is something that a lot of people wait for the motivation to show up. There's like, well, I'll do it when I feel like it. The thing is, with most things that are difficult, we never really feel like doing it. My car breaks down and I'm not one to fix cars, for example. So that's another thing where I would take it to the repair shop, of course.
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> Scott Allen>But if I sat around trying to figure out how to fix it, I would never get it done and I certainly wouldn't feel like fixing it. Um, that's just an example, but that you can use that for anything. So you have to get over our feelings of not wanting to do it and just try to make it more practical. Where I need to get this done, how am I going to get it done and who can I get to help me with it? So if you can just follow that process there, you can pretty much, um, work on anything. Just going back to the website thing, you know, we finally got, um, the website finished, but I hired somebody to do it together and I'm, uh, just more of a consultant. But that's, you know, that's the thing is I identified something, like that was something that we needed, but it wasn't something that I had to do myself. So I just made a list of all the things that went into the project, got someone on board to help with that. And then we just started doing one thing at a time, you know, and that's just like, you know, every day you can just check things, check things off on your checklist. So, um. But yeah, the, uh.
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> Scott Allen>Yeah, anyway, I'll just leave it there in case you have a follow up question.
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> Speaker A>Yeah, I just wanted you to give out your contact information so people, uh, can keep up with everything you're up to because we're almost out of time.
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> Scott Allen>Oh, absolutely. Yeah. So, yes, you can certainly go to Amazon and, um, check out the books there at Scott Allen books or scottallenauthor.com, and you can go to scottallenpublishing.com where we have, uh, the books and, uh, some free downloads there. And at, uh, scottallenbooks.com is the shopify store where we sell everything directly. And we'll be having some very cool merchandising up there for sale as well pretty soon, so check that out. And by the way, um, we're putting together the course for do the hard things first, and that will be ready by June. So just want to know if you wanted to take things to the next level. You can always check that out.
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> Speaker A>Absolutely. Ladies and gentlemen, Scott allenpublishing.com dot appreciate having him on follow rate review share this episode to as many people as possible. If you have any guests or suggestion topics, see Jackson 10 two. Net is the place to send them. As always, thank you for listening. And Scott, thank you for joining us and sharing your expertise.
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> Scott Allen>Thank you. I appreciate it. Have a great day.
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> Speaker A>For more information on the living the Dream podcast, visit www.djcurvefball.com.
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> Speaker A>Until next time, uh, stay focused on living the dream.
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> Scott Allen>Dream.