May 11, 2025
From TV Anchor to Art Journaling Guru: Susan Hensley's Journey
Send us a text Ever wondered how scribbling in a journal could transform your mental health? In this captivating conversation, Susan Hensley shares her remarkable journey from bullied TV journalist to transformational coach and author of "Art for Your Sanity: How to Manage Chaos and Unleash Joy." Susan's story begins with anonymous notes left on her desk criticizing her on-air performance—a painful experience that could have derailed her dream career but instead taught her profound lessons a...
Ever wondered how scribbling in a journal could transform your mental health? In this captivating conversation, Susan Hensley shares her remarkable journey from bullied TV journalist to transformational coach and author of "Art for Your Sanity: How to Manage Chaos and Unleash Joy."
Susan's story begins with anonymous notes left on her desk criticizing her on-air performance—a painful experience that could have derailed her dream career but instead taught her profound lessons about resilience. Through subsequent pivots including corporate HR leadership, living abroad in Hong Kong, and eventually discovering art journaling, Susan developed unique insights into navigating life's transitions with creativity and joy.
The heart of our discussion centers on how art journaling provides powerful mental health benefits without requiring artistic talent. "It's not about creating art to show anyone," Susan explains, "it's about using art to process our lives." When we engage in creative play—even for just minutes a day—our brains shift from analytical left-brain thinking to intuitive right-brain flow, increasing dopamine and serotonin while providing a safe space to process complex emotions.
What makes Susan's approach particularly valuable is its accessibility. Using inexpensive supplies and just 10 minutes daily, anyone can tap into this powerful practice. She explains how art helps us embrace duality—holding contradictory emotions simultaneously—and breaks down the brain science explaining why creative expression significantly reduces stress and anxiety.
Whether you're facing a major life transition, struggling with perfectionism, or simply seeking more joy in your daily routine, Susan's insights offer a refreshing perspective on using creativity as a path to wellness. Her challenge to listeners? Spend just three minutes today doing something playful—dance, sing off-key, scribble, or collect leaves—and notice how it changes your emotional state.
Ready to unleash your creativity and transform your mental wellbeing? Listen now and discover how art journaling might be the unexpected solution you've been seeking.
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00:00 - Introducing Susan Henley
01:47 - From Journalism to Career Pivots
04:45 - Living and Working in Hong Kong
07:36 - Discovering the Power of Art Journaling
13:38 - Art for Your Sanity
16:22 - Creativity, Mental Health, and Play
24:25 - Online Courses and Final Thoughts
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Welcome to the Living the Dream Podcast with Curveball, if you believe you can achieve.
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Welcome to the Living the Dream with Curveball Podcast, a show where I interview guests that teach, motivate and inspire.
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Today, I am joined by transformational coach motivate and inspire.
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Today, I am joined by transformational coach author and speaker, susan Henley.
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Susan is dedicated to helping people navigate life's transitions with joy, creativity and resilience.
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Susan has decades of experience as a corporate executive and leadership coach.
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So we're going to be talking to Susan about everything that she's up to, why she does what she does and what she's going to be up to.
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So, susan, thank you so much for joining me.
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Oh, thank you for having me.
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I'm really looking forward to this conversation.
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Why don't you start off by telling everybody a little bit about yourself?
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telling everybody a little bit about yourself.
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Sure, well, I've gone through a lot of big pivots in my life career-wise personally and I think most people by the time you get to a certain age have had to but I've tried to really study and figure out what's helped me get through them right, and so I'm really focusing now on trying to help people get through transitions right.
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That's why I'm really focusing now on trying to help people get through transitions right.
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I had a first career as a TV journalist, then big struggle with infertility, then a sharp turn to working in HR and a stint living in Hong Kong.
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Then discovered art journaling and wrote a book and teach art journaling workshops as a way of getting in touch with yourself.
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So a lot of different paths.
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All that build on each other, I guess, is how I view it.
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Well, talk about your stint as a TV journalist.
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Sure.
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So you know that's.
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In sixth grade I won an essay contest for the county I was living in and in sixth grade I got a $200 savings bond US savings bond in my picture in the local paper.
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And then, like what happens with kids, it's like, wow, I want to be a writer, a journalist.
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And so in sixth grade I was sort of bit by that bug and I stayed really focused on it and managed to get, you know, a first job in television journalism when I was you know 22.
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It's what all my schooling was for.
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But then I was bullied.
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There was a crazy workplace bullying.
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I used to get anonymous notes in my desk when I would come in.
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I got promoted really quickly and I ended up being a main anchor in a small town in an area of the country where I didn't grow up and I was learning, but I wasn't learning fast enough.
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I was making some mistakes on air and someone in the newsroom I mean, this is I'm talking 30 plus years ago now and I still don't know who these bullies were I would get these anonymous notes telling me to go home and outlining every single mistake.
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And it was a really horrible period because I thought, oh my gosh.
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You know, my dream, something I had wanted to do since sixth grade was going to, you know, die within a few weeks of getting this job and it didn't.
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I learned a lot about myself, about leadership, about how to handle adversity, but I, you know, I talk about it all these years later and I still feel sort of the shock and horror and shame of getting in and opening that drawer and seeing those anonymous notes.
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You know, day, day after day, and I think you know when we talk about big, pivotal moments.
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That was a big one because I had to grow up a lot and figure out some things during that period so that I then went on to other TV stations and bigger jobs and there's a whole lot wrapped in that story.
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But as I think, of the 11 years I spent working as a television reporter and anchor and producer, that of all the stories is the one that really sticks out because it formed everything else I do.
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Well, you also lived in Hong Kong, so talk to the listeners about you.
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Know why you were over there and what it was like to live abroad.
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Yeah, so that was as recently as 10 years ago.
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I had switched careers after we had our son I mentioned.
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There were several years of struggling with infertility and I was working for a global company at the time and my son loved to travel.
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He used to come on some international business trips with me as we could, and I'm a passionate traveler.
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And this opportunity came up in Hong Kong with the same company, but it was a big stretch.
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It was more about working in finance and operations and I was really have spent most of my time in working in, you know, HR and training and strategy.
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But we thought opportunities don't like this don't come along very often, right, I try and seize opportunities that are unique and that come in a way you weren't expecting.
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I think that's really important in my coaching practice to have people really think about why is this opportunity presenting itself and what does it mean.
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And you know I learned so much during that time about working across multiple cultures, Quite honestly, what it's like to be the only one in an office who doesn't speak the language of origin.
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I joke that a typhoon was coming through town and although the whole staff was talking about it, they were talking about it in Cantonese and I hadn't watched the weather that morning.
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It wasn't particularly stormy out and there had been alerts going out that everyone had to evacuate buildings and go home because they were going to shut down public transit and shut down the roads.
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I mean, it's a great preparation system, but think of being in the US and like missing that maybe a hurricane's coming right, and all the preparation.
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And finally someone asked me if I was going to shut the office and I said, well, right, and all the preparation.
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And finally someone asked me if I was going to shut the office and I said, well, why?
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And they said, well, typhoon is coming.
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And I'll tell you how humbling that was.
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Because they assumed I knew and they, because I was the leader in the office, that I just wasn't sending them home, that I wanted people to keep working and that I was willing to, you know, put the business over our safety.
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And it was so interesting the lesson about not making assumptions and how you talk to people when you don't know what's going on, because we get sort of afraid to ask questions when we're confused or when we're an outsider.
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So I learned a huge amount living in Hong Kong and we traveled tons, so lots of great, great experiences.
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Okay, Well, talk to the listeners about art journaling.
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Explain what art journaling is, why you decided to get into it and how it helps with life's transitions had a terrific side hustle as an artist.
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She's a terrific artist and you know a few of us are standing around, you know, having coffee, and saying we can't draw at all, and she's like, well, it's not really about drawing, you know it's.
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But come over to my house on a Saturday for a couple hours and I'll teach you guys a few basics.
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So we go over there's only, you know, four of us and it's a rainy Saturday and she's teaching the other couple people about the color wheel and I'm in the corner.
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She's given us some paints and I am just playing with paint and I feel like my inner five-year-old artist has come alive.
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I am free and I'm making a mess, right, and it's this big brown splotch.
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But one thing I've learned through all the years and my coaching, training and working with lots of people, executives and just people on their careers and in life transitions, is when something really excites you, when something makes you curious, when something lights you up, right, pay attention, just spend a little bit of time.
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And I didn't leave her house that day thinking, oh, I'm going to be an artist.
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But what I did realize is I could use an outlet that felt really playful and creative and we still had some crayons and things like that at our house and so I just started playing a few minutes a day scribbling, doodling with, with crayons, with the stuff I loved as a kid, with some watercolors, I got a glue stick and tore up some you know, catalogs and magazines and collage.
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So I was just playing along and I did this for four years just because, quite honestly, it was fun and I noticed it was an.
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It was sort of an outlet for me and pandemic hit and work was crazy.
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We're all trapped inside lots of anxiety and I really sort of if I say double down on the practices, I started to pay a lot more attention to how much stress relief I got during it and how it was such a safe place to process difficult emotions, like I would draw a little screaming face on days I was frustrated or angry, or lightning bolts or whatever it was.
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And there it is on this page versus you know me taking it out on anyone or you know having a bad habit.
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You can literally flip or figuratively.
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You just flip the page and the emotion's there and safe and you've processed it.
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And after doing it for a number of years, I just got more and more curious about the brain science of it, the mental health benefits.
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And it's not about creating art to show anyone right, it's about using art to process our lives and I realized I was talking a lot about it and sharing it with people, with people I worked with with coaching clients that eventually I wrote a book and created some online training and do workshops because it's a really accessible tool right, you can do it like 10 minutes a day.
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I have people buy the most inexpensive supplies they can find because if we use fancy stuff, our inner critic really gets going and it's amazing the outlet it provides people and really can help people process difficult things going on in their lives.
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It's helped me and it's helped a number of clients through the years.
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So I stumbled into it and found I really, really loved it and there were some terrific benefits to it.
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Okay, well, speaking of your book, tell the listeners about your book.
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Tell us what we can expect when we read it, and you know what we can pick it up and why you decide to write it sure.
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So the book's called art, for your sanity, and the subtitle is how to manage chaos and unleash joy, and you can get it wherever you you buy books.
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It's available online.
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You can buy an e-version from my website.
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It's in bookstores Most of the time.
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You have to order it and it's an easy short book.
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But it's got really three segments.
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One is my personal journey, what it sort of did for me.
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The next component of it is really how to get started, because people have lots of questions and my website has a free downloadable guide of how to get started.
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And the third part is really what's happening in our brains.
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Why does this work right?
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What are the mental health and physical well-being benefits when we move from the left side of our brain that really analytical move from the left side of our brain, that really analytical, logical side of our brain, sort of the judgmental side over to the right side, which is much more holistic, intuitive, connected and relaxing.
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Because that's what's happening, and I'm not a brain scientist, but there's a lot of really great work that I was able to distill so that you understand why you're feeling the way you do while you create and play.
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So that's a little bit how I designed the book some videos of different exercises to get people started.
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Because the biggest battle we all face is that inner sort of critic creeping in or telling ourselves we should be an artist.
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And I really like for people to tap into play.
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And if you tap into play, that's where creativity lives.
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You're following your curiosity and you keep doing that and it really leads you, you know, to your inner wisdom, to your authentic self, and it doesn't feel heavy or burdened.
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It's a real source of of joy and that's why I felt so important in working with company that published my book, that the part of the title is, you know, unleashing Joy.
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It's art for your sanity and unleashing joy.
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So it's not about becoming an artist.
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I tell everyone that it's really about tapping into your authentic self.
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So what are the most common misconceptions about creativity you address in your book?
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Yeah.
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So the first one is that most of us are told by about age eight or nine that somehow we aren't creative right, we've been rewarded for something else or we get compared.
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It's hard to know.
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And that creativity we're all creative by our nature, but to access creativity as an adult, we really want to tap into something that feels like play and fun.
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That if we want to stop telling ourselves that story.
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I joke that creativity is nothing more than a little bit of play with a little bit of curiosity.
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Like what happens if I mix, you know, yellow and blue.
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You may think you know it makes green, but what does it really look like?
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What does it feel like?
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What is it like to draw as an adult?
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What I used to love to draw when I was five or six, even if it's just a tree or a heart, to let yourself play really fuels that creativity that's in all of us.
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And then it's like why does this feel so good?
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And it's like well, I'm not judging myself, I'm not just scrolling through my phone because we all have some time.
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I'll tell you I scroll like anyone else or play games or do that, but if I repurpose just one, say, five or 10 minute session of like phone numbing out with something like drawing, coloring, collaging boy, do I feel more present, more relaxed and better.
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So I try and make a really strong case for creativity versus just like passively taking things in.
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Okay, well, you also talk about the concept of duality, working with color in your books, so explain that to listeners.
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Yeah, one thing that I originally struggled with and then I've seen clients is how we can feel not just two things at once, but many things, and that's sort of what the duality is.
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You know, one of the best descriptions I can give that people can relate to is like watching a loved one have a milestone.
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So, say, if you have a child, watching them graduate from high school, you can be really happy and proud of them and sad at the same time.
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Right, we use the phrase a lot bittersweet, right.
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That's duality, that both of those things can be true.
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What happens a lot is we don't like to have, because it's uncomfortable to have what sound like they're conflicting feelings happening at the same time.
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And when you're playing with color or with art, you actually realize what makes the most interesting pictures or what feels like the best release is that sort of contrast, almost of color, that multiple things can be happening when you're scribbling or painting or collaging on the page, and it's all okay and it really helps us with our emotions recognizing it's okay to feel grateful and to appreciate what you have and to feel very frustrated or desirous of something else or unsatisfied, right.
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Too often in our society we want things to just be one way, and I think playing with art or I know playing with art and color in this way helps us be much more accepting of all the nuance out there.
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I joke that it's all the colors, right, we need all the colors to, you know, really set off each other.
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So let's talk about journaling and mental health.
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What are the main benefits you know in regards to mental health when?
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It comes to our journaling.
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Yeah.
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So the first one is relaxation and stress reduction.
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And what's happening in your brain when you are playing with art is it's increasing those dopamine and serotonin levels that we hear a lot about, that some of the pharmaceuticals have, because you've moved to that right side of the brain.
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You're doing something playful, something creative.
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So that's the first, the next and that's what helps release stress.
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The other thing that helps release stress about it is actively engaging your eyes, your hands, the feel of the paper you could be doing this with clay right, your hands, the feel of the paper.
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You could be doing this with clay right.
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When we get our bodies in on it and we're focused just on creating right, stress levels go down, the helpful hormone levels go up.
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And then the third real benefit is it can help us really process very difficult emotions.
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They've used a lot of researchers and psychotherapists have used a lot of art therapy, both with children and, in many cases, with people experiencing PTSD.
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And there's a reason for that because it allows you to process things that we don't have words for.
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If you think of how often maybe you're seeing someone be interviewed on the news after a disaster or something and they say I don't have words.
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We're experiencing emotions and thoughts and feelings that we don't have the right language.
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But by playing with color and I'm talking, you know scribbling, collaging.
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I'm not talking about drawing a perfect bowl of fruit, I'm talking about expressing yourself it really helps give voice and a place for processing emotions more quickly and in a way that feels safe.
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So three main benefits of art for mental health right, stress reduction, an increase in dopamine hits and serotonin levels, and then really a way to process difficult emotions.
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Well, in your book you explain how adult play plays such a crucial role in creativity, so go through that for the listeners.
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Yeah, it's sort of sad being an adult.
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We get busy, right, and we think we've outgrown play.
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Play is something kids do.
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We don't have time for play or if we have some time, we need to zone out right, we need to binge on Netflix or game or whatever it is, and we sort of put play at the bottom.
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But play is really what unlocks creativity.
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It's a terrific place to start.
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You know, you may hear your favorite musician talk about they were just playing one day with some chords or some notes or some lyrics.
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I mean, you hear really creative people talk about how they were just messing around and an idea came.
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Now I'm not saying people are reading the book or myself are going to come up with a sort of a game changing either invention or piece of art, but so much creativity and innovation is really born through that playful curiosity, like what happens if Tell us about any upcoming projects that you're working on that people need to know about.
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Sure, Well, I have a TED Talk coming out and it'll be out sometime this summer.
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I've been doing a couple talks about the place of creativity and how art journaling can help with, you know, battling perfectionism, as well as linking some of this to leadership and how we lead teams.
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So I'm looking forward to that.
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Got a few speaking engagements and starting just starting to work on uh next, next book okay, so listeners can keep up with everything that you're up to.
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Go out your contact info sure easiest.
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Easiest way is just my website, which is susan dash, hensley, h-e-n-s-l-e-ycom, and asi said there's a free downloadable pdf on how to get started art journaling.
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There's some videos with some exercises, book information, online course and I answer any email.
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So if you have a question just hit the contact button and I get back to folks.
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Speaking of that online course.
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Tell listeners about that online course.
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What can we expect if we decide to take it?
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the exercises with you, and then there's a workbook to analyze different things.
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So in the six, seven modules in it, right, we start with what does play feel like and where are your creative blocks to, what are some of the emotions that you're feeling coming up, to how to tap into your inner wisdom and figure out what's next in your life, and there's a workbook that helps people go through all of that.
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Yeah, it's funny because you realize, with the online training and me demonstrating things, I could go a lot deeper in some ways than I could even in the book.
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Okay, well, go at your website one more time and close us out with some final thoughts.
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Maybe, if that was something I forgot to talk about, that you would like to touch on, or any final thoughts you have for the listeners.
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Sure, so the website's just susan-hensleycom, and really, the final thought I want to leave people with is no matter what it is, is you're listening to this.
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There's a challenge here to do something playful for three minutes today.
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Right, find a song, maybe on your phone, and maybe dance, sing off key scribble, go out, collect some leaves or rocks.
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Just give yourself nothing more than three minutes and just inject a little bit of sort of play in your day and then see how you feel.
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Absolutely.
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Oh, thank you so much for having me.
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