Nov. 28, 2024

From Orphan to World Traveler: Aisha Makara's Journey of Dreams

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Join us in this inspiring episode of Living the Dream with Curveball as we sit down with artist and world traveler, Aisha Makara. From being orphaned at a young age in Mongolia to traversing the globe, Aisha shares her journey of overcoming challenges, embracing creativity, and living life on her own terms. Discover how she turned her dreams into reality, including sending her art to space, and learn about the power of positivity and resilience. Don't miss this heartfelt conversation that encourages you to pursue your passions and live your dreams!
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Welcome um, to the Living the Dream podcast with Curveball. Uh, if you believe you can achieve cheat.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Welcome to the Living the Dream with Curveball podcast, a show where I interview guests that teach, motivate and inspire. Today I am joined by artist and world traveler Aisha Makata. Aisha is from Mongolia. She was orphaned at the age of two and now she focuses on motivating, inspiring and empowering audience to live and breathe in their creative space. So we're going to be talking to her about everything that she's up to and how many countries she's traveled. So Aisha, thank you so much for joining me today.

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> Aisha Makata>Thank you Kurtin to have me. And um, I'm here to share my wisdom and the knowledge with uh, audience and with you.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Why don't you start off by telling everybody a little bit about yourself.

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> Aisha Makata>Um, well, where I get to start, you know, it's uh, um, a long story. Uh, like I live like so many different experiences in my life. So sometimes is like where get to start. I started probably from that little girl that um, get to um, educate herself to live life without like these ideas, uh, that been created uh, uh, by our society to like what's right, what's wrong, you know, what's good, what's bad. And um, I get a. Figuring out in my own. To understand what life is, you know, through my own experiences. So I learned by not having parents it's actually can be good because nobody putting you any kind of like a programs, you know, fears and. And uh, like that you don't have that um, that kind of like protection at the same time it can be not good because you don't have like a strong like a structure and like. And you don't, you don't have like a um, person that you can look up to as well. Like a you know, kind of like role model and um. But it's also like everything is half the um. You know, the perspective. So I just decided to look from the positive perspective um, on about the thing that happened uh, with uh, for me in my life, you know, because life happening for us, not to us, you know. And I'm just feeling like I just turn it around in a completely different way because I felt first maybe as you know, in the first I was feeling like a victim and you know, didn't want to create anything. But like one day I had um, like not easy experience in my life when you know, I've been in a not good company. I was a teenager and living um, in a m. Like very far Away in the middle of nowhere, right? And at, um, that moment when I was in a not good company and, uh, was.

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> Aisha Makata>I mean, with kids, that was always expressed like, you don't know that it's not good company. Honestly. You just know that, you know, it maybe doesn't serve you and it's not like, healthy for you, like later in your life. But then when you're in the moment there, you don't. You don't understand anything good or not good, or you just, like, you're just there, you know, and you're just enjoying because you kind of like feeling of baloney, you know?

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> Aisha Makata>And I remembering when my friends started to die of different accidents, you know, different things that was happening in my lifetime, in that lifetime. And I, uh, remember I was just in one of the funerals and I was like, oh, my gosh, I'm just like 15. I was between, like 15, I think 16. And I was like, oh, my gosh, would I survive until 18? You know? And I was thinking about that and I said to myself, no, I get to go and live my dreams, and I have want to travel around the world. I want to go and see all these places, and I get to do it now, you know.

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> Aisha Makata>And, um, so I started to work towards that. And that was, of course, this challenge to work towards that because, you know, like, not. You don't have that support from around you. Like, in my case, I didn't have any support of the people who can help me to leave the dream that I had that time of my life to travel around the world. You know, I want to that time. I want to travel to, um, Rome, to, like, Geneva, like, different, you know, like part of the world that I really wanted to go.

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> Aisha Makata>And New York was one of them. And, um, everyone said to me, oh, you get to work all your life to get there, you know. And, um, so I was believing in that. I was like, okay, I get to work a lot.

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> Aisha Makata>So I started to work, you know, like, taking different jobs here and there. And, um, I feel like that helped me to actually, like, understand in very early age what life is and what's, you know, like actually, um, appreciate life itself, you know. And I learned from that experience by losing my friends. Uh, that time I started to appreciate absolutely everything, what I have and who I have in my life. And, um, it's actually turned in such a, like, beautiful way because, you know, I got opportunity. When I was, uh, 21 or 22, I went to New York and I remembering I've been in, uh, Times Square of the New Year. And I remembering this like, this like amazing moment of my life when I was in front of this big screen and watching this 59, 58, 57, you know, going down and like happy New Year. And that was uh, um. Like I already went to all the cities that I want to go and I already went like a travel already a lot. Like I went to different part of Europe and you know like, and I realizing that all my dreams can be true or like they are real.

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> Aisha Makata>I get to continue to dream. And uh, since then I'm dreaming and you know, I'm living it, I'm enjoying it.

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> Aisha Makata>And uh, and I, I share to my um, my students and saying to them like absolutely anything is possible. You get to get. Just have a clarity and trust that you can do it. Believe in yourself, you know, the faith that you can do it. And that's very important to have it, you know, because I feel in our life nobody will create our dreams. It's our work to do that. And it takes a lot of courage and bravery actually to do that because we're meeting, we're facing a lot of fears, you know, a lot of different programs and it's um, it's not easy to like, uh, to go like face uh, it and you know, and go through them and it's a challenging because some programs are very deep in us because they come from the, you know, from the blood, from all like blood related things. I call it m. I connected more like the spirituality right now. But like it's all connected so deep in some programs it's not easy to get out of our um, mind, you know. And I'm working right now on um, understanding all these different like programs from our ancestories and I don't know so much about my ancestories but like I know that, you know, I did my DNA test and I know that my ancestry was moving a lot because we are nomads and that's why probably I'm moving. I love to move around. Um, the point is everyone has their own idea the way they want to live their life. And I remembering when I set up my life that time when I was 15, I remembering like I want to live until 60 and I create like uh, the old life that until I'm 60 now. I used to say to the people I already have like the way I want to live my life until 200, maybe I will like extend it to 400. But this thing is like, is just to have the oldest ideas and just enjoy it, you know. More ideas and more dreams you have, I feel and just enjoy itself because I understood I'm already living a dream, you know, I'm already enjoying my life the way it is. I want to, you know, add extra, like, um, routines I call, like, extra habits, you know. And at the same time, I feel I'm already living in my dream. I'm already accomplished so many amazing things, so many dreams in my life. So that's. I'm so.

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> Aisha Makata>I'm feeling so powerful and so, um, inspired by what I've done and how much I can do, you know, And I'm. I'm giving myself, like, break, right? I'm saying to myself, like, you know, it's not about, like, just go, go, go, go all the time. It's about enjoying it, enjoying the life itself, you know, learning to really enjoy, um, myself in this life. And, you know, it was challenging. I just started to do this like last.

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> Aisha Makata>Last year, and it's been like, I face a lot of things that I'm very hyper and I.

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> Aisha Makata>I take a project that I don't need to take some time and why I'm doing it to myself, you know. So it's very good to learn about who we really are by facing all of these challenges for real.

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> Aisha Makata>Like, really face them with gratitude and attitude, you know, and say, like, yes, I can do it. You know, yes, it's something that I want to do. And um, understand that life brings so many different experiences, and it's great. Look at all these experiences as an opportunity to learn something from that as a, uh, as uh, a blessing, you know, any experience. Because in the end of the day, it's not about good and bad. It's about experience itself and, uh, how we deal with all of this and who we are, you know, who we became, like, because I feel like we're shaping ourselves through the life and I believe, like, by overcoming our challenges.

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> Aisha Makata>This is how we create ourselves, you know, and uh, like real ourselves, like a structure ourselves, our, like, beliefs, our values, our principles.

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> Aisha Makata>And I feel that's matters, you know, for us, first of all, you know, and that's a process and more I'm talking to the people about their values, about their principles, about, you know, the beliefs that they have and clarity in their life or, uh, the. The way they want to design the love of life. Not so many people have that, I am realizing. Not so many people have the idea, the way they want to live the life. And I always have the ideas, you know, I always have, like, the way I want to Set up everything the way I want to, like, organize my day or my week, my months.

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> Aisha Makata>And because I feel I'm. I'm, um. I'm feeling way more, like, comfortable with that, you know, and also, like, I also put myself in uncomfortable situation as well. But the things is it takes me time to kind of adapt to the uncomfortable situations, and I'm feeling like, how I can, you know, uh, face it more in a joyful way, you know, my uncomfortable situation that I, you know, I have in my life and appreciate them as well. Because when we have this uncomfortable situation, I feel like this is how we're real grounding ourselves and growing for real, you know, that's one of the things and also very important. I started to work on my ground rules right now for, like, for myself, you know, because. Because I feeling like more I'm working with my ground rules and more like, respecting my own ground rules. I feel. I'm feeling way more grounded, you know, like, for like, as an adult, I'm feeling myself. I'm like, like I'm an adult right now, you know, and that's.

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> Aisha Makata>It's great to flow around, and it's also great to feel ground, you know, that's like, general answer, uh, who I am right now and what I learned, uh, so far about myself.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Okay, well, tell us about, um, you are also an artist, and you've even sent your work out of space. So talk about that.

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> Aisha Makata>Well, you know, I started to work with kids, um, because I was doing, um. I was doing art as a hobby. I never, like, like that point in my life.

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> Aisha Makata>When I was in my 20s, I felt like, um, art is just my hobby. I'm doing it in my own flow when I feel.

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> Aisha Makata>And, um, when I moved to Miami, I, you know, some of my friends, like new friends that time said to me, why not you, like, started to do art full time? Because it was easy, you know, it was easy. People buying my art, it was easy to sell.

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> Aisha Makata>And I was like, it's kind of in my mind. It was like, it's not work. It's just, you know, it's like you're just playing. And, um, I started to do that and I started to work with kids. I started to work with others, like, uh, giving the art classes. And, um, just like.

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> Aisha Makata>It was mostly about creative thinking and free.

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> Aisha Makata>Free flow. You know, every time I'm giving opportunity to people to, like, think different and create. Create something like what they want.

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> Aisha Makata>Not like being, oh, like, here is the bouquet. Uh, like, here's the flower. Flower uh, uh, like. Like a draw the flower, you know, it was always like a free flow. So I started to work with kids. When I started to work with kids, it was very interesting process because kids are very creative and they're always in the moment and they are so curious about absolutely everything. And I remembering, um, coming with this idea of sending my art to the space. At first I was deciding, like, I send my art to Elon Musk, to Jeff Bezos, and to Richard Branson myself. Like, I created art for them. I painted, you know, I send it by mail to their, to the offices.

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> Aisha Makata>And um, with a letter, you know, asking them. I ask Elon Musk, uh, to um, send my art to the space. I ask Richard Branson to paint one of his rockets. And um, I asked Jeff Bezos to send me to the space, you know, to do art in space. And um, so. And I was just let it go. You know, I just send my art. I did a video, I told some of my YouTube and I, um. And I remember like, by doing it I was just like, okay, let's dream big. You know, that was in my mind was like, I'm big and dream. I'm dreaming big. That's what some American dream about, you know, dreaming big. And um, I forgot, like, I forgot. I continued to live my life, you know, like, enjoying it and everything was great. Um, and I Remembering when in 2022, I, um, you know, accomplished my dreams. Like, one of my dreams was being artist in Art Basel. And um, so I end up in Art Basel, you know, in the local.

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> Aisha Makata>Uh, I've been like, selected one of the artists.

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> Aisha Makata>And uh, so like I, I realized that all my dreams is like being real more and more. Like even, you know, like, even when I don't pay so much attention or like pay attention to the things I'm living my life, it's like happening like naturally. And um.

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> Aisha Makata>So I was lost after this. I was like, I don't know what I want next. Because if I'm like. For me that time was like, to. Sending my art to the space was like a, um, dream.

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> Aisha Makata>But like I did. I knew that it's going to happen in some point in my life.

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> Aisha Makata>I just didn't know when, you know. And I remember I started to work with a crypto. I was in the crypto community and bitcoin and did a lot of conferences, events and showing up and all these different, um, uh, gatherings and network events and bringing my art there. Um, sometimes I was selling, you know, like, sometimes you don't Sell anything. And like. And I remember I was doing this big, uh, event with uh, Russians and with like many different group of people, you know.

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> Aisha Makata>And um. Uh. And I remembering that what happened is like, everything was said. I was parking my van, I was living in the van that time. I was like totally hippie, you know, like, uh.

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> Aisha Makata>And they become like very like hippie. Completely like independent, completely like living my own flow, living like very happy, you know, like eating just fruits. Um, and I'm feeling like was so healthy, you know. Like I have my morning routines and I was like, uh, living my best life in that moment, you know, like just. I was deciding like, okay, I'm in my van, I'm going to travel for six months. That was one of my like, kind of ideas to do, you know, And I, I decided to do that.

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> Aisha Makata>And um. So I went to north of Florida. I was like, probably traveling for like four months, and I come back to Miami. And I remember I was doing this event parking my van on the. You know, on the site. And one of the days somebody broke me, broke in my van. And. But in everything was stolen, Absolutely everything. My old documents, my bank cards, my. My uh, my phones, my laptop. All my life was gone, you know. And um.

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> Aisha Makata>And I was like sitting there and I feel like, wow, what I'm going to do next. That's, you know, it's crazy. And I was like, oh my gosh, it's just so crazy. I, you know, I went to look for my stuff like, you know, in the, um, nearby a different like, um. Trash. Garbage. Uh, in the garbage. But I didn't find anything. And I remember like, I was feeling like, wow, that's. That's the opportunity I get to work through this. I shouldn't. I don't need to, you know, be sad about that or upset. I get to kind of like let. Let it go. And part of the let it go was not easy at all, you know. And I feel like, um, when this happened, instead to let it go, I kind of like got a little bit upset, you know, a little bit like, uh, down, like isolate myself completely.

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> Aisha Makata>And I remember I uh, get to ask for support. And that was not easy for me to ask for support. And uh. So I end up in the community. And after this community, like of hippies and uh, we started to kind of like travel from festival to festival.

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> Aisha Makata>And one of these, like a uh, friendship. Hippie's friend, who's also artist, she sent me, uh, this um, application. Uh, like, oh, you know, it's your dream.

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> Aisha Makata>Because I was sharing about my dreams with everyone. And she said to me, go m and apply. Maybe they will choose you. You know. Uh, so I applied.

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> Aisha Makata>I just apply. I send them like, just like a uh, application form first. You know, I didn't send my art anything like that.

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> Aisha Makata>I probably send some of my old art pieces or something. And after I went to the interview, they sent me email back. I went through the interview, they asked me to create new artwork like connected to the pioneer 10 of the like 50 years ago. That's a project. That's why they uh, selected 50 artworks.

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> Aisha Makata>And um, what happened is I applied and they asked me to send them eight artworks but I didn't have any tools, nothing. I didn't have money, I didn't have tools. I just started a little bit. You know, I want to save money for my documents. Just like go and apply for that. You know, I didn't have anything, no money, nothing.

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> Aisha Makata>And um, I was like, how am I going to do that? I didn't have phone and um, I was always asking for people to like to log into my email, log into my Instagram was mess. Um, but I was willing to go extra mile ago like this and instead to give up. I remember we've been in a festival and I already passed the deadline and I sent them my artwork but they said to me it's not the right format that I sent to them. And I was in the festival. It's not easy to find a place where you get to put the things together. There was no Internet, nothing. You know, like I get to go and find Internet, ask someone to upload this again. And like doing my art on the way by working in the same time, you know, doing so many. It was so like so much going on. But I was kind of like focusing that yes, maybe my art will be like they choose my art. But I don't know.

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> Aisha Makata>Um, you know, I couldn't create like eight pieces. You know, I create three pieces.

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> Aisha Makata>Uh, and I sent it to them and uh, they selected two of them and they um, engraved it in the golden plates. Um, and they send it to the space with a SpaceX.

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> Aisha Makata>Uh, and um, so I become, you know, space artist somehow. Um, but that was one, like it was my dreams. That's why I was continue to like, you know, like moving towards that.

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> Aisha Makata>Uh, and my many of my friends, I shared the same application with so many of my artist friends that time.

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> Aisha Makata>And I said, you get apply, you get applied. Nobody did it, nobody applied, you know, and because uh, that, you know, the funny things with me. Every time something is connected to my dream, like, I know that it's something like I want to do because this is what I want to live.

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> Aisha Makata>I'm, um, I'm doing this extra job, like applying, writing, explaining, doing like extra things even. So it was my own words, you know, I'm not like, my English is like, so so. But like I'm always improving, you know, doing my best to improve. And I'm just feeling like every time when I see the opportunity that connected to my dream life or like to my next dream, I take it. I do my best to take it, you know, um, at the same time, you know, I decided like in life, everything is happening in a natural flow. And when this opportunity is coming, it's up to us to take them or not. In reality, um, not so many people can see these opportunities.

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> Aisha Makata>And um, because they're so busy being busy, you know, even so I remember I've been super busy, you know, stressed out.

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> Aisha Makata>And nobody can take me. Uh, like nobody wanted to hire me because I didn't have any documents at all. And I was explaining like, honest what happened to everyone. And some people would take advantage of it, some people will, you know, kind of like, nice. And I meet like so many different. You know, by being so vulnerable in that moment of my life, I learned who is who, you know, and the way they treat you and the way people are. And I was very like sad that people treat each other, you know, with so much abuse and, and so like it was not easy experience, you know, for me to actually being in that vulnerable position. But the things is the beauty of it that I learned better more about who I am, the way I am, you know. And I feel like by um, you know, by having a boundaries and having values and principles, it matters, you know.

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> Aisha Makata>And that was not easy. Like I'm. I was by that experience, I don't know that people don't have that. And that was also a sad experience for me, you know, like, because sadness cannot go without happiness, you know. But the thing ceases like in that moment of my life. Everything kind of like flow together, you know, all the colors or like I call like love is everything. Love has dark colors and love has light colors. And everything is love. And that's why I uh, communicate with the world. I said like, you know what? Everyone wants to give you love. The things is they're just giving the love the way they uh, they know, like, you know, like being scary and you know, like beating up the kids or like Screaming or yelling at them. It's love. And they're doing it for the love perspective. But the thing is, like, is just from their perspective, you know, so love is absolutely all of it.

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> Aisha Makata>That's. We get to purify it, you know, and it takes time to, like, purify it and create it more, uh, gentleness around it and, you know, and get clarity. What is being gentle? You know, what it is to be gentle towards myself? This is what I'm learning right now. I mean, like, what it is to be gentle towards myself. What it is not like rushing things. What it is to like, not like moving. I got to go and live my next dream.

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> Aisha Makata>You know, what is about, like, just enjoying all of it now and not like pushing myself towards like this and that. Just let experience itself, like in a natural and harmonica, like a, um, like a, like a harmony, you know, living in this balance and harmony.

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> Aisha Makata>And it takes time to develop even this, uh, within ourselves.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Contact information so people can keep up with everything that you're up to. Because we're almost out of time.

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> Aisha Makata>Well, I would like. I have. My website is, um, Aisha.

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> Aisha Makata>Aisha Today. It's a I S H A dot today. Uh, and, um, where you could book the time with me. I have a mentorship program and I have my book published on Amazon. Uh, you can find it Amazon Juice for Living Guidebook, uh, by Isha Makara. Where you can see my art and, uh, some recommendation of Joyful Living that is, you know, about me, uh, like where you can find me right now.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Absolutely. Ladies and gentlemen, Aisha Dot Today. Please check out everything that she's up to. She's traveled to 60 countries. You know, she's really got a lot of experience, so check her out. Follow Rate Review Share this episode to as many people as possible.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Jump on your favorite podcast app. Follow us Review Share the show if you have any guest or suggestion topics, Curtis Jackson 1978@att.net is the place to send them. Thank you for listening and supporting the show. And Aisha, thank you for sharing your story and all that you do. And thank you for joining us.

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> Aisha Makata>Joyful Living Namaste.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>For more information on the Living the Dream podcast, visit www.djcurveball.com.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>until next time, stay focused on living the dream.

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> Aisha Makata>Dream.